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"Jesus was a jew" nonsense Anonymous 11/08/2021 (Mon) 19:42:59 No.1808 [Reply]
Usually when it's exclaimed that Jesus was a "jew" they mean modern Judaism belonging to a monolithic jewish hivemind, not Old Testament precursor Judaism. Among a lot of incompatibilities Judaism (modern and early post-Christ Talmud/Kabbalah) specifically rejecting Christ and a male God. That's not enough for far-right atheists and pagans, they will keep implying and lumping Jesus as part of the modern jewish Illuminati that rejects Christ and anticipates that anti-Christ's. It's a really surface level interpretation and contradictory view of Jesus. Here is some sourced reading for those interested. https://archive.md/3O95d
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God and Jesus were European. Jesus traveled from the lands of current Ireland, all the way to the west side of what's now known as the middle-east, even though that land was stolen by sandniggers, who steal and squat everywhere like the no-iq niggers they are.
>>3096 What does this have to with anything? Anyway, I wonder how many of these mental gymnasts get most of their beliefs from critics of Christianity, not the actual source materials. It could be as Chesterton says, that the vast majority are yet doing it in Christianith's shadow instead of from outside. A hindoo would be a much more honest critic.
Wasnt he techincally jewish, as in, a descendant of king David, who was in turn member of the tribe of Judah? this is very confusing.
>>1808 >monolithic jewish hivemind uh huh
>>3411 It is a shitshow internally, dubsman, at least from some rather tired talmudists willing to speak on the matter.

Arguments for a personal God Anonymous 01/26/2022 (Wed) 21:25:11 No.3301 [Reply]
All beliefs held by people are uncertain, and beyond the ability to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, and therefore are a matter of faith, especially materialism. This is rational enough to observe. If the Christian God exists, he is transcendent beyond our perception, but immanent in the world, so that we can approach some truths about him. Now what are the reasons why God should resemble what Christianity proposes, and would be personally involved in the moral character of his creations, if morality can even be said to exist? I'm not strongly positioned either way, but as far as my limited education goes, tying morality to Christ feels like a cope (but I don't think I know the best arguments in favor of Christ). And yet morality being tied to God is the only way true morality could exist. Which is why I feel compelled to ask.
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>>3314 Well, newcomer, it's your lucky day, because I know a man who can hold forth on the "Philosopher" argument. https://youtu.be/sxYTxfiHGuk?t=15061 >I have called the fourth and final division of the spiritual elements into which I should divide heathen humanity by the name of The Philosophers. I confess that it covers in my mind much that would generally be classified otherwise; and that what are here called philosophies are very often called religions. I believe however that my own description will be found to be much the more realistic and not the less respectful. But we must first take philosophy in its purest and clearest form that we may trace its normal outline; and that is to be found in the world of the purest and clearest outlines, that culture of the Mediterranean of which we have been considering the mythologies and idolatries in the last two chapters.
>>3401 >fideism Why talk or attempt to reason about God at all if you're going to promote fideism? Just admit you're a dogmatist and that reason is of secondary value when 'thinking' about God. Silence is the appropriate fideistic response to rational discourse about dogmatic theological matters.
>>3402 Excuse me, are you the anon I was speaking to?
>>3402 As per GK Chesterton's definitions, >reason: the authority of man to think. >religion: something that commits a man to some doctrine about the universe; the sense of ultimate reality, of whatever meaning a man finds in his own existence or the existence of anything else; that which puts first things first; the power which makes us joyful about the things that matter; the responsible reinforcement of courage and common sense; a maid-of-all-work: a cosmic theory, a code of conduct, a system of artistic symbols, a fountain of fascinating tales; the telescope through which we can see the star upon which we dwell. >theology: the element of reason in religion; the reason that prevents it from being a mere emotion; simply that part of religion that requires brains. My question, then, is this: why does this man seem unreasonable to you? Why does he appear to you to bring reason out of her place as handmaiden of theology? As I see it, he does not. So I will ask you to explain yourself, and not rudely and crudely attempt to shut me up.
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>>3392 >but if His acts are contingent then His acts are sufficiently explained by something other than Him and His will Why can't He be a completely arbitrary actor?

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Genesis + Biblical Creation Anonymous 12/26/2021 (Sun) 17:45:50 No.2178 [Reply] [Last]
This thread is for discussion and the sharing information critical of evolution, old earth, attempts to allegorize the early chapters of Genesis, etc. I will be posting some basic info critical of (Neo-)Darwinism shortly.
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>>3396 Are you just a redditor?
>>3397 Nice argument, tard. You forgot to greentext my post with a soyjak.
>>3398 >tard Ah, and I see your vocabulary has already begun to degenerate. Ho hum. Anyway... >>3353 >"Evolution in biology," says Julian Huxley look him up, by the way, and behold the Cain to Aldous's Able, "is a loose and comprehensive term applied to cover any and every change occurring in the constitution of systematic units of animals and plants..." That there has been change in the constitution of species of animals and plants in the past is amply attested by the fossils found in the earth's crust; with the help of radioactive dating, they have been put into historical sequence with a very high degree of scientific certainty. Evolution, as a generalization within the descriptive science of biological change, can for this as well as for other reasons be taken as established beyond any doubt whatever. >The Evolutionist Doctrine, however, is a very different matter. Not content to confine itself to a systematic description of biological change, it purports to prove and explain it in much the same manner as proof and explanation are offered in the instructional sciences. This is a philosophical error with the most disastrous consequences. >"Darwin," we are told, "did two things: he showed that evolution was in fact contradicting scriptural legends ofcreation and that its cause, natural selection, was automatic with no room for divine guidance or design." It should be obvious to anyone capable of philosophical thought that scientific observation as such can never do these "two things." "Creation," "divine guidance," and "divine design" are completely outside the possibility of scientific observation. Every animal or plant breeder knows beyond doubts that selection, including "natural selection," produces change; it is therefore scientifically correct to say that "natural selection has been proved to be an agent of evolutionary change." We can, in fact, prove it by doing. But it is totally illegitimate to claim that the discovery of this mechanism--natural selection--proves that evolution "was automatic with no room for divine guidance or design." It can be proved that people get money by finding it in the street, but no one would consider this sufficient reason for the assumption that all incomes are earned in this way. >The Doctrine of Evolutionism is generally presented in a manner which betrays and offends against all principles of scientific probity. It starts with the explanation of changes in living beings; then, without warning, it suddenly purports to explain not only the development of consciousness, self-awareness, language, and social institutions but also the origin of life itself. "Evolution," we are told, "is accepted by all biologists and natural selection is recognised as its cause." Since the origin of life is described as a "major step in evolution," we are asked to believe that inanimate matter is a masterful practitioner of natural selection. For the Doctrine of Evolutionism any possibility, no matter how remote, appears to be acceptable as if it were scientific proof that the thing actually happened: <When a sample atmosphere of hydrogen, water vapour, ammonia, and methane was subjected to electric discharges and ultraviolet light, large numbers of organic compounds...were obtained by automatic synthesis. This proved that a prebiological synthesis of complex compounds was possible. >On this basis we are expected to believe that licing beings suddenly made their appearance by pure chance and, having done so, were able to maintain themselves in the general chaos: <It is not unreasonable to suppose that life orginiated in a watery "soup" of prebiological organic compounds and that lcing organisms arose later by surrounding quantities of these compounds by membranes that made them into "cells." This is usually considered the starting point of organic ("Darwinian") evolution. >One can just see it, can't one: organic compounds getting together and surrounding themselves by membranes--nothing could be simpler for these clever compounds--and lo! there is the cell, and once the cell has been born there is nothin to stop the emergence of Shakespeare, although it will obviously take a bit of time. There is therefore no need to speak of miracles or to admit any lack of knowledge. Iti is one of the great paradoxes of our age that people claiming the proud title of "scientist" dare to offer such undisciplined and reckless speculations as contributions to scientific knowledge, and that they get away with it.
>>3403 >>3353 >Karl Stern, a psychiatrist with great insight, has commented thus: <If we present, for the sake of argument, the theory of evolution in a most scientific formulation, we have to say something like this: "At a certain moment of time the temperature of the Earth was such that it became most favourable for the aggregation of carbon atoms and ocygen with the nitrogent-hydrogen combination, and that from random occurrences of large clusters molecules occurred which were most favourably structured for the coming about of life, and from that point it went on through vast stretches of time, until through processes of natural selection a being finally occurred which is capable of choosing love over hate and justice over injusticie, of writing poetry like Dante, composing music like that of Mozart, and making drawings like thoses of Leonardo." Of course, such a view of cosmogenesis is crazy. And I do not at all mean crazy in the sense of slangy invective but rather in the technical meaning of psychotic. Indeed such aview has much in common with certain aspects of schizophrenic thinking. >The fact remains, however, that this kind of thinking continues to be offered as objective science not only to biologists but to everybody eager to find out the truth about the origin, meaning, and purpose of human existence on Earth, and that, in particular, all over the world virtually all children are subjected to indoctrination along these lines. >It is the task of science to observe and to report on its observations. It is not useful for it to postulate the existence of causative agents, like a Creator, intelligences, or designers, who are outside all possibilities of outside observation. "Let us see how far we can explain phenomena by observable causes" is an eminently sensible and, in fact, very fruitful methodological principle. Evolutionism, however, turns methodology into a faith which excludes, ex hypothesi, the possibility of all higher grades of significance. The whole of nature, which obviously includes mankind, is taken as the product of chance and necessity and nothing else; there is neither meaning nor purpose, nor intelligence in it--"a tale told by an idiot, signifying nothing." This is The Faith, and all contradicting observations have to be either ignored or interpreted in such a way that the Faith is upheld. >Evolutionism as currently presented has no basis in science. It can be described as a peculiarly degraded religion, many of whose high priests do not even believe in what they proclaim. Despite widespread disbelief, the doctrinaire propagand which insists that the scientific knowledge of evolution leaves no room for any higher faith continues unabated. Counterarguments are simply ignored. The article on "evolution" in The New Encyclopaedia Britannica (1975) concludes with a section entitled "The Acceptance of Evolution," which claims that "objections to evolution have come from theological and, for a time, from political standpoints." Who would suspect, reading this, that the most serious objections have been raised by numerous biologists and other scientist of unimpeachable credentials? It is evidently thought unwise to mention them, and books like Douglas Dewar's The Transformist Illusion, which offers an overwhelming refutation of Evolutionism on purely scientific grounds, are not considered fit for inclusion in the bibliography of the subject.
>>3405 >>3353 >Evolutionism is not science; it is science fiction, even a kind of hoax. It is a hoax that has succeeded too well and has imprisoned modern man in what looks like an irreconcilable conflict between "science" and "religion." It has destroyed all faiths that pull mankind up and has substituted a faith that pulls mankind down. "Nil admirari." Chance and necessity and the utilitarian mechanism of natural selection may produce curiosities, improbabilities, atrocities, but nothin to be admired as an achievement--just as winning a prize in a lottery cannot elicit admiration. Nothing is "higher" or "lower"; everything is much of a muchness, even though some things are more complex than others--just by chance. Evolutionism, purporting to explain all and everything solely and exclusively by natural selection for adaptation and survival, is the most extreme product of the materialistic utilitarianism of the nineteenth century. The inability of twentieth century thought to rid itself of this imposture is a failure which may well cause the collapse of Western civilisation. For it is impossible for any civlisation to survive without a faith in meanings and values transcending the ultilitarianism of comfort and survival, in other words without a religious faith. >"There can be little doubt," observes Martin Lings, <that in the modrn world more cases of loss of religious faith are to be traced to the theory of evolution as their immediate cause than to anything else. It is true, surprising as it may seem, that many people still contrive to live out their lives in a tepid and precarious combination of religion and evolutionism. But for the more logically minded, there is no option but to choose between the two, that is, between the doctrine of the fall of man and the "doctrine" of the rise of man, and to reject altogether the one not chosen... <Millions of our contemporaries have chosen evolutionism on the grounds that evolution is a "scientifically-proven truth," as many of them were taught it at school; the gulf of understanding between them and religion is widened still further by the fact that the religious man, unless he happens to be a scientist, is unable to make a bridge between himself and them by producing the right initial argument, which must be on the scientific plane. >If it is not on the "scientific plane," he will be shouted down, "and reduced to silence by all sorts of scientific jargon." The truth of the matter, however, is that the initial argument must not be on the scientific plane; it must be philosophical. It amounts simply to this: that descriptive science becomes unscientific and illegitimate when it indulges in comprehensive explanatory theories which can be neither verified nor disproved by experiment. Such theories are not "science" but "faith."

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Anon 05/27/2021 (Thu) 21:58:02 No.4886 [Reply] [Last]
Post here when you visit /comfy/ Thread #5 Sunshine edition Previous: >>3183
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Bored of the internet already. Wonder if that’s eberry going to change
comfy chan. i like it.
what the quack is she saying in Loomer bros... mbv is on to something here
I hope eberryone is having a berry comfy friday.
>>6305 My fry day has been berry comf, how has yours been?

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How to be free of fear? Anonymous 11/17/2021 (Wed) 18:15:38 No.1889 [Reply]
TLDR: I know I have to get rid of fear with religion, but I don't know how. I feel like I am in some sort of extreme apathy. No, I'm not into dark thoughts of ending life. It's more of an extreme apathy of not feeling any positive emotion at all. I'm not sure how to explain it properly, I'm sorry. It's like I am unable to receive happiness or I am unable to enjoy fun playing videogames. As if I am emotionally sterile. I need to open my heart and be honest and say what I'm really thinking, but I have a problem with trust. I don't reveal my honest thoughts, my honest opinions to even my family (who are very nihilistic) because every time I open myself to a problem I get the "your problems aren't worth sharing" treatment and they quickly change the topic. I have a few friends but they are not RL friends. I won't go to many details but this basically led me to a situation where I let fear govern me and myself, and this went on for around 10 years or so. Why the heck am I posting this in the Christianity boards? Because I used to be Christian when I was a teen, going to the church for months and I had a better mental health... until my mother did a "how dare you" speech onto me, making me stop following Christianity. I believe that there is a connection. If I am Christian, there is no fear. Otherwise there is fear within me. I think I need to go back to my Christian ways to finally get rid of my fear. Problem is that my fear seems to be that big that I don't come up with any steps to get started.
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Here are some scriptures to lead you: >>3124 >Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord, and against thee; pray to the Lord, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. And the Lord said to Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looks upon it, shall live. And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived. Numbers 21:8-9 >And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:14-15 >>3125 >But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.  1 Corinthians 13:10-11 >>3126 >So the prophet Elijah departed thence, and found Elisha the son of Shaphat, who was plowing with twelve yoke of oxen before him, and he with the twelfth: and Elijah passed by him, and cast his mantle upon him. And he left the oxen, and ran after Elijah, and said, Let me, I pray thee, kiss my father and my mother, and then I will follow thee. And he said to him, Go back again: for what have I done to thee? And he returned back from him, and took a yoke of oxen, and slew them, and cooked their flesh with the equipment of the oxen, and gave it to the folk, and they did eat. Then he arose, and went after Elijah, and ministered to him. 1 Kings 19:19-21
I'm in a somewhat similar situation. I couldn't handle people anymore, so I quit my job. I'm 31 years old and haven't gone outside in about 8+ years. My "mother" is extremely evil and always abuses me. What I've done is I've completely stopped sharing any emotions with my "family". They don't deserve my smile. Like God said, the only father you should have is Him, and the only other family you have are your brothers, the Sons of God, those few that have a soul. I NEVER smile when my "family" is around, and I always have a slightly angry face when they're around. What you've have to understand is that 99% of those that have ever existed are just flesh-golems. They have no souls, they only have evil programming. And you've got to learn how to work against their programming and change some of it. Like for example, I stopped smiling when there's anyone around. golems see smiling as a sign that they can attack that person. golems also don't treat anyone properly unless they can gain something from them, and if these golems know that someone has no power or anything to give them, then these golems inflict pain on them for their own pleasure and for stress-relief. I've gotten very aggressive too in my mannerism. It's a sin for a Son of God to be effeminate, and that's why I've gotten really tough. golems are incredibly afraid of me now. And I'm not just acting. I'm far more masculine than these golems could ever even pretend to be. These demons will fear you if you are with God. ALL the Sons of God go to Heaven. Just like God was destined to exist, so were the 144 000 souls that He created. We are on Earth to grow from a seed into a tree. We are here to exercise our free-will. Which means that we grow our soul so that we can fight against temptations. That is learning/growth. Once a Son of God dies, he goes directly to Heaven. There is no hell. Once you've fought against temptations, then you'll look back at them and smile at just how silly those things were, and you'll be glad to be out of the darkness and in God's light/teachings. We are all born as a seed soul. We are born in darkness and it's up to us to fight through the evils of the world. Of course we'll take part in some of them, but that's only because we're still growing and are being pulled into these sins by the golems. We are not these sins. These sins are opportunities to learn from and discard and be free. I hope that God helps you and that He steps in and takes control of the golems that are causing this much suffering to you.
>>3139 >golems Aha, so you are the one behind those bizarre posts. How did you acquire this reasoning?
Just be less fearful. Duh.
💕Love you.💕 Every day is Valentine's day for a Christian. I don't know if you really left home. You should have someway to communicate with the internet. I mean I don't know the whole situation but someday it'll be over. And don't get discouraged because you're just a new born baby born in the spirit.

https://www.cureagainstcovid.com/ shinider 01/28/2022 (Fri) 21:00:15 No.15438 [Reply]

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Anonymous 01/25/2022 (Tue) 22:14:38 No.3287 [Reply]
just stop
Be specific. Don't be lazy.
>>3287 Broskis did you know the ducks at the park are free? You can just take them home, smh.

Anonymous 01/28/2022 (Fri) 16:17:57 No.3383 [Reply]
Mark Goring has been talking about this book. I finally starting reading it for myself and I just think everyone should read it. I don't want to ruin it at all. But it is about near death experiences and not just cases but the entire field itself and the research and easy ways to prove them true. Here's the audiobook: https://mega.nz/folder/6ZZiUbQY#Rx-z9hzuKWOJxw-_aMKu3A

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v2h2 ya82 xdm932a 01/28/2022 (Fri) 02:33:57 No.15436 [Reply]
him

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Pascha! Anonymous 05/07/2021 (Fri) 10:40:21 No.837 [Reply]
CHRIST IS RISEN
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>>842 Indeed. Every day.
>>841 At the risk of causing another Great Schism, OP is on the Julian calendar.
The slaughtered sacrificial infant angel has awoken from death a ghost with holes as the grim reaper.
>>1880 Pay not mind to the Jew, for he seetheth and copeth.
Hmmm. Shall this board do anything for the Lent this year?

Internet Radio on the Anon.cafe Broadcasting System Anonymous Board owner 10/03/2021 (Sun) 16:45:28 No.15187 [Reply]
We've overhauled Anon.cafe's Icecast server, named it the Anon.cafe Broadcasting System (ACBS), and are thinking about opening it up for use by boards. You can use audio streaming software (e.g. Mixxx) together with the ACBS to create Internet radio shows that others can tune into, well-known examples elsewhere on the webring being Smug/a/'s r/a/dio, PLW/animu/'s jazz streams, and so on. The ACBS's secure endpoint is at https://radio.anon.cafe and will show any playing streams together with links to begin listening to them. This page will only show streams that are active at that moment. If you consider yourself an anon of one of Anon.cafe's boards and would like to stream over the ACBS, you will need a streamer account. We're still working out the details of how we'll manage this, but at the moment we'd like streamers to have the blessing of the Board Owner whose board the stream is associated with to deter abuse. A Board Owner can bless multiple streamer accounts if they please. To get a streamer account, please figure out what kind of content you'd like to stream, discuss it on whatever board you'll be streaming it under, secure the blessing of the Board Owner, then post in this thread with answers to these questions: 1. Which board(s) will you be streaming under? 2. What sort of thing do you want to stream? 3. How often do you think you'll stream, and for how long? (This won't serve as a commitment or restriction, it's so that we can understand resource timing.) 4. What would you like your stream's mount URL to be? (For example, a stream mount URL of "pancakestream" will show up in the ACBS as /pancakestream and have a playlist URL of https://radio.anon.cafe/pancakestream.m3u ) 5. What streamer username would you like? 6. What email address may we send your credentials to, if and when approved? We'll confirm with the board owner(s) before issuing you a streamer account. Once you have a streamer account, you may use it at will.

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>>15383 Thanks! Everything seems to work well. I've selected a low bitrate as requested.
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Hi, me and other guy from a latin board called /ac/ from another IB (the board where they streamed cartoons during the last christmas event) are hosting a podcast so we would like to use your radio service, can we do it eventhough we don't have a board here? The podcast is going to be mostly about animation and animation related image board culture and maybe we might roleplay from time to time. Everything in spanish, so I hope that won't be a problem.
>>15428 Which imageboard would this be? We don't see an /ac/ board anywhere on the webring. If you'll pardon the question, aren't podcasts usually posted as recordings to be downloaded later, hence the "pod"?
>>15429 Thanks for answering. This is the board I'm talking about https://www.hispachan.org/ac/ Regarding the project, me and my friend are going to talk any cartoon related subject live and the upload it to another server to anyone who missed the live transmision.
>>15430 Hispachan participated once on the /icup/ right? What if we invited them to the webring itself?

QTDDTOT Anonymous 10/04/2021 (Mon) 01:18:38 No.1633 [Reply] [Last]
QTDDTOT - Questions that don't need their own thread. Post your questions here.
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>>3042 Like a thief in the night, anon. And "can't" is a very different thing from "don't wanna."
>>3044 I've always wondered about what that could mean. At night, at least in Rome, Italy, everyone NEEDED to get home BADLY by night time, or be run over by slaves trucking goods on their back all over, so it stands to reason that a home invasion in the night would be impossible to miss. It was probably different in Jerusalem (better urban planning? Lower population density? Neither? I don't know how theives opperated back then in either Jerusalem or Rome. Anyone know how people went about stealing shit in 1st Century Jerusalem? Was Jesus referring to a home invasion or a mugging for his parable? I know, ultimatley, the time and hour remains unknown anyhow, but I'm curious.
Would it be worth having a thread on anti-Christian secret societies of note, such as the Freemasons and the Illuminati?
>>3291 It wouldn’t hurt. Might be worth getting some info together to get the thread on a strong footing like our Jew thread here
>>3355 Quite, dubsman. The Illuminati might be easier to get into in some ways than the Freemasons as they are not only defunct and dismantled, but the sum total of their schemes got written down and taken. With the Masons, it might be much easier to get into what their organization does outside the secrecy of their Lodges (unless I'm much mistaken).

Dhu al-Qarnayn فلان 12/29/2021 (Wed) 20:23:19 ID: 290ff2 No.316 [Reply]
How do Muslims explain Surat al-Kahf? All evidence points to it being directed lifted from Syriac versions of the Alexander Romance, parts of the Surah being almost exact quotations and paraphrases of said work, which of course predates the Qur'an. How do Muslims explain the fact that the 'horns' of Dhu al-Qurnayn's name refer to the horns of Alexander the Great that appear on coins circulating in the Middle East, which were of course the horns of the pagan god Ammon? And this said, where is the wall of Yajuj and Majuj? I believe this to be the weakest part of the Qur'an.
The Qur'an narrates the true story of the Ahl al Kahf. The circumstance that this story may have been mentioned before in similar forms doesn't detract from it at all.
>>316 >where is the wall of Yajuj and Majuj? God knows best.
>>319 Pre-Islamic fictional Christian sources refer to the story of Dhu al-Qarnayn. Why does the Qur’an reproduce lies?

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tvch down due to DDOS attack Gahoole 07/17/2020 (Fri) 12:51:39 No.1922 [Reply]
To any anons wondering what is going on, the site is currently down to a large scale DDOS attack causing issues with our server. I have no idea when the site will be back up again, could be as long as 24 hours. Hopefully it won't take that long, but I'll keep everyone updated however I can.
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>>3734 Actually this time it does appear to be the case...some anon discovered that gahoole is part of the griefing cabal (featuring youtube personalities like Adambomber, Keith Fozmire, ph0ne, JIRX, etc etc) and one zzzchan BO was a victim of these people once, so a massive DDoS attack was initiated.
>>3735 So where do i go now?
>>3732 It was a server-side fuckup and we've been on vultr for months now lmao. Botched some package upgrades on an overloaded server and it failed to come back up until we got support on the line.
Should be up again now. Sorry about that.
>>3737 >>3738 NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T RUIN MY ENDLESS WOMAN DRAMA PSYOPS NOOOOOOOOOOO IT WAS ZZZCUCK I SWEAR

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Bugs, Issues, and Changelog, #2 Anonymous Board owner 10/21/2021 (Thu) 06:34:30 No.15218 [Reply]
This is the second thread in which you post about things you notice that are wrong that aren't "it's slow". If something is fixed or changed, it'll be posted here. Previous thread: >>18
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>>15418 Glad to see it Admin, thanks for the update.
>>15418 I was worried. Glad to see the site back.
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>>15418 >We're back from a spot of downtime caused by something on our provider's end, likely internal networking. Thoughts on opening a twitter or ripcord account for site annoucements or unexpected downtime? Could help for people to get daily updates outside of anon.cafe.
>>15425 We already have a Fediverse account at https://freespeechextremist.com/anoncafe
Hey friend, I've been modding and administering several boards in here and other webring sites. I've not really been super active as an admin, but I do browse practically every time I get the time to. I'd like to ask for volunteer permissions, as I've noticed that several wojak spammers / CP guys / green pass bots keep posting even on non active boards and I'd like to lend a hand in the cleanup process. Let me know if I can be added in and I'll reply with the account I use on this site. Much love to you friend.

Satanic Temple Holiday Display to Be Installed at Illinois State Capitol Building Anonymous 12/21/2021 (Tue) 17:55:02 No.2095 [Reply]
>A controversial holiday display from The Satanic Temple will be installed Monday in the rotunda of Illinois' state Capitol. >The display, an art installation celebrating the satanic holiday of Sol Invictus, is scheduled to go up near other religious art in the Springfield building at 1 p.m. >"This year's tradition marks a greater urgency in the Baphomet's message of harmony and reconciliation," Satanic Temple Director of Campaign Operations Erin Helian said in the release. https://www.newsweek.com/satanic-temple-holiday-display-installed-illinois-state-capitol-building-1661205?amp=1
>>2095 What a joke, Satanists are so far up their own asses that it's not even funny anymore. Hope someone smashes this thing. Bless you, OP. And have a good day.
>>3308 put a can of thermite on its head and deface it
cuteee, it's like a baby weregoat Anyway, satanists are operating within the Christine doctrine, and indirectly promoting Christianity by embodying the antithesis of Christian ideals.

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me again,sorry 01/05/2022 (Wed) 13:10:38 No.2508 [Reply] [Last]
Recently I've grown obsessed with being militarily,phsyically powerfu for the sake of the Church and of my holy catholic religion and lifestyle. I want to rack a high kill count of fairly defeated enemies.Didnt Sampson kill 1000 enemies? didnt David kill 10,000 enemies in war? Didnt one prophet kill 400 baal prophets? Is this desire holy,or fermented by the devil/prelest? Should I learn to shoot firearms, survival,military tactics? I wont do anything illegal or unfair just in Just Wars or self-defense
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>>3280 Sounds pretty talmudic.
>>3281 It is. Islam is legalistic works-based salvation
>>2801 >The earliest surviving account of the Sira / Prophetic biography comes from Ibn Hisham, who was born 201 years after Muhammad allegedly died in 632. He apparently draws on Ibn Ishaq, whose account doesn’t survive. He was born 72 years after Muhammad died, and died in 767 AD. We can do better than that, actually. Ma'mar ibn Rashid lived from 714 A.D. to 770 A.D. and was the author of Kitab al-Maghazi. This is basically the earliest surviving biography of Muhammad. It is almost certainly legitimate, because ibn Rashid studied under the tutelage of ibn Shihab al-Zuhri (677-741 A.D.), who was an elite descendant of the Quraysh tribe connected with the highest levels of Umayyad society. One of the teachers of al-Zuhri was 'Urwah ibn al-Zubayr (died 712 A.D.). What makes 'Urwah so important is that his father was a Companion of Muhammad, al-Zubayr ibn al-Awwam (died 656 A.D.) and his mother the daughter of the first caliph, Abu Bakr, and sister to Muhammad's favorite wife Aisha. That's a pretty strong and short isnaad from key Islamic figures to Ma'mar ibn Rashid. Worth noting too that ibn Ishaq had al-Zuhri as his teacher as well. Most of the key Islamic accounts are probably true in large part. We can't deny the idea that early Islam may have been more Christianized in some respects though.
>>3288 >almost Hmm?
>>3295 We're never going to be able to construct a logical syllogism that definitively proves anything in historical research, which is reliant on the reconstruction of unrepeatable events in the past. There's no strong arguments against the legitimacy of this document, especially given the connections of Ma'mar ibn Rashid to well-known figures. The reason why there is a dearth of written records about Muhammad in the beginning is because the Arabs scorned book-learning and were still mostly an oral culture, even in learning. Muslims would memorize hundreds and hundreds of hadiths, for example.

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Anonymous 01/06/2022 (Thu) 17:54:08 No.2560 [Reply]
This WILL seem(and is,maybe)weird but its the kind of stuff I cant post in any discord or forum and only on an anonymous I.B. Im a man but lately i kinda want to be a femboy or pretty boy because i feel it's a form of ultimate beauty, a kind of almost supernatural beauty that trascends men and women. and i'll be super popular with girls. But I also think instead of being a thinspo femboy i should try to become a more hyper masculine,growing more muscles, a full beard, trying to increase T trough natural foods,etc. what am I to do? seriously sirs,please help a man out
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Whatever dude. You will start balding soon like all of us anyways. But the chicks you attract as a femboy will probably be kpoop stans, catfishing autistic men or some other cancer.
>>2560 Post your faminine benis, we'll see if you're a cute femboy
I pray ceaslessly for God to take the femboys away and give us more tomboys.
>>3298 impeccably based brother
>>3299 >namefagging >even ironically

CLERMONT FOOT 63 11/24/2021 (Wed) 22:26:45 No.2876 [Reply]
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>>2917 I'm always here, but I can't host, that's the big issue If I could I would have done so for the missing two competitions

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Info thread on local idiot Anonymous 07/23/2021 (Fri) 23:02:37 No.1238 [Reply]
Just letting you know that the guy behind all of these posts and threads >>372 >>1235 >>1204 >>1083 >>1109 is a griefing idiot that's goes on different imageboards to steal people's information and sell whatever he can get our of you. And also just start random shit in general. Don't go to any links he sends you, or to his shitty discord links You will get datamined
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>>3240 Earthly princes are not to be trusted, news at 11. I'll admit that you have some balls to come in here, but that's all I'll give you.
>>3242 Fair enough, but I just want to say god loves every single shit poster. Now off to shit up other IMAGEBOARDS.
>>3243 Right back at you. What just happened?
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>>3247 I praised the Lord at all times, his blessings shall always be within my mouth, taste and see that the lord is good.
Well, whatever strange visitors we get, our commission remains the same.

Adolf Hitler was Jesus Christ Anonymous 01/24/2022 (Mon) 03:35:49 No.3174 [Reply]
>If you had known Me, you would know My Father as well. From now on you do know Him and have seen Him How could we have missed this? I read the words and hear the speeches of this man and feel the spiritual energy radiate from Him in a way that I have not experienced with anyone but Jesus Christ. Adolf Hitler was Jesus Christ . He came back to this Earth and dwelt among us, leading His people from the depths of the Depression back into glory, a preaching a true Gospel of Völkisch Christian love among the German people and against the godless creed of Marxism. In all of his dealings He exhibited Christlike benevolence and selflessness, and was loved by all good-hearted men and women, young and old. After waging a titanic war between good and evil, Adolf Hitler pointed us towards the Second Coming of Himself in full glory. “Fight for the Coming Man” he said. And He did not die. He ascended into Heaven, where He still sits at the right hand of power! Heil Hitler! Heil Christ!
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>>3245 I am the servant of our lord, Joshua C. My church name is also Joshua. I have come in the name of our lord to spread the word of the final battle against his enemies. We will slaughter them down to the very last child.
>>3248 lol, been a decade since i last saw that Pizza Hut image posted
>>3259 I'm not joking
How did Himmler get so obsessed with ooga pagay shit anyway?

/christian/ Meta thread Anonymous 07/25/2020 (Sat) 09:38:59 No.144 [Reply] [Last]
Hello and welcome all to /christian/, the new church of the cafe. I'll be taking over from the old owner, so if there's anything you want to tell me about the board, go ahead and do it here. In addition, I'm looking for a few mods to maintain the status of the board. If you're interested, please, contact me at churchofanoncafe@airmail.cc to let me know.
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>>3087 we'd be interested >>3201 what do you mean? it looks the same to me

Iconoclasm Thread Anonymous 01/21/2022 (Fri) 08:34:13 No.3034 [Reply]
Daily reminder that icons and statues in churches are idols and no amount of linguistic pilpuling about ‘veneration’ will change this fact. God is extremely clear in what He commands: >Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them And yet when one goes into an Orthodox Church, this is exactly what one sees. Lines of people going in and bowing before icons of saints and Mary, crossing themselves and kissing the icons. The deacons go about and wave incense before the icons of the saints, Mary and Jesus. The same goes for Catholics. I tried to fall for the so-called ‘apostolic’ church meme for a while, but to see them kiss and worship the images of saints rang major alarm bells in my head, no matter how many copes I read from apologists online. Iconolatry is idolatry, and idolatry will lead you to the hellfire. Protestantism has flaws, but at least ones who are consistent in reading Scripture can realize that nothing but God is due worship and veneration, and that the praying to the saints and Mary is a pagan innovation. Faith in Christ and gathering in His name is enough. Do not be led astray by idol-venerators and other crypto-pagans.
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>>3199 Orthodox and Catholics have literally slid into paganism so hard that Muhammadans are more Christian than you in some areas. Wow! >>3200 >Did you ever try talking to them? Ask them why they do what they do? I’ve already said in this thread that I have attended nearly a dozen divine liturgies at a local OCA church, and was taken aback by the blatantness of their paganism. The liturgy is beautiful and the people are friendly, but when it comes to Mary and the icons, Scripture simply says they are wrong. I get the ‘Holy Tradition’ argument, but this should not be license to literally reject the clear words of Scripture. And of course I asked them about it nicely. They say the same things said in this thread. It’s literally a whole bunch of cope. Veneration and worship is for God alone. This should not be a controversial point. If you want a picture of Jesus, go ahead, but as soon as you start bowing before it, kissing it and offering it incense, it has become an idol. Follow Ephiphanius: >Moreover, I have heard that certain persons have this grievance against me: When I accompanied you to the holy place called Bethel, there to join you in celebrating the Collect, after the use of the Church, I came to a villa called Anablatha and, as I was passing, saw a lamp burning there. Asking what place it was, and learning it to be a church, I went in to pray, and found there a curtain hanging on the doors of the said church, dyed and embroidered. It bore an image either of Christ or of one of the saints; I do not rightly remember whose the image was. Seeing this, and being loth that an image of a man should be hung up in Christ’s church contrary to the teaching of the Scriptures, I tore it asunder and advised the custodians of the place to use it as a winding sheet for some poor person. They, however, murmured, and said that if I made up my mind to tear it, it was only fair that I should give them another curtain in its place. As soon as I heard this, I promised that I would give one, and said that I would send it at once. Since then there has been some little delay, due to the fact that I have been seeking a curtain of the best quality to give to them instead of the former one, and thought it right to send to Cyprus for one. I have now sent the best that I could find, and I beg that you will order the presbyter of the place to take the curtain which I have sent from the hands of the Reader, and that you will afterwards give directions that curtains of the other sort—opposed as they are to our religion—shall not be hung up in any church of Christ. A man of your uprightness should be careful to remove an occasion of offence unworthy alike of the Church of Christ and of those Christians who are committed to your charge.
>>3206 >cope You keep saying that, but why should two thousand years of tradition be wrong and you, a modern who fell into the Protestant tradition of Sola Scriptura, be right?
>>3206 You call historical authority a meme and have no idea as to the faith that converted the vast majority of Europe. You insert your own ideas and raise them to the status of the apostles. You have as an idol your own prideful humanistic reason. You deprecate the ancient faith, and contrive one that never existed. Why and what for, besides to cut up the church? Why and what for, but to desecrate it for the rape of the heathen? Mock, and incur the credit of the Hebrew and the Mohammedan, but in making your bed with them they will devour you as a den of lions. For you are no Daniel being cast by Nebuchadnezzar, no martyr before an emperor, but a madman who has thrown his lot in with a brood of vipers for no profit whatsoever. A suicidist.
>>3206 If you want further proof of the accursed side you are on, here is the Chronicle of Theophanes: >ANNUS MUNDI 6215 (SEPTEMBER 1, 722— AUGUST 31, 723) 7. 4. 9. 18. >In this year a Jewish wizard who made his headquarters at Phoenicia Laodikeia came to the Arab caliph Yezid. He told him that he would rule the Arab state for forty years if he would condemn the honored and revered icons in the Christians’ churches throughout his entire empire. The senseless Yezid believed him and promulgated an all-embracing edict against the holy icons. But by the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and the intercession of His uncorrupt Mother and all the saints, Yezid died in the same year, no sooner than his satanic doctrine had been heard by the masses. >But the Emperor Leo caused us many evils, because he shared this malignant, illegal, and evil doctrine. He found a partisan for his stupidity: a man named Beser, who had been a Christian prisoner in Syria and had apostasized from his faith in Christ and converted to the Arabs’ doctrine. https://archive.org/details/TheChronicleOfTheophanesTrans.ByHarryTurtledove1982
>>3215 >Jewish wizard Why am I not surprised. These wizards don't have a good track record for living long, though. Just ask Prince Gleb.

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Deliverance after death? Anonymous 01/13/2022 (Thu) 09:49:44 No.2825 [Reply]
It's generally understood that there can be no deliverance after death. Yet traditional Christianity has long upheld the doctrine of the Harrowing of Hell, that Jesus descended into Hell during His death to deliver the Old Testament righteous as they could not save themselves being under the weight of original sin. So it seems that there was a special case in which this applied. There is also the ancient tradition of prayers for the death. Now, without consideration of Roman Catholic dogmas of purgatory, was this a one-time event? That is, that Christ no longer harrows Hell, and those that die in ignorance of the gospel, for example, following His death and resurrection are condemned to eternal damnation? Or, being that Heaven and Hell are timeless, did in the Harrowing Jesus bring up all the men and women throughout history worthy of deliverance as per His judgement, and not just the spirits of those that died prior to His crucifixion?
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Just as God was destined to exist, so were the 144 000 souls that came from Him. These 144k were slowly lowered to Earth across our timeline. These souls are here to grow from a seed into a tree by learning how they should be. ALL souls go to Heaven. There is no hell. non-whites and women go into the dirt when they die. they don't have souls. Only certain European Men, with blond hair and blue eyes, have souls.
>>3095 Universalism AND ethno-idolatry. We're on a roll!
>god loves everyone >god allows untold millions of people to suffer in hell for all eternity Does anyone know of a way around this?
>>3254 Do you know the Parable of the mustard seed?
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Good Deeds Anonymous 05/07/2021 (Fri) 13:35:38 ID: 8987e1 No.212 [Reply]
Good Deeds (Hasanat) These are the words of Almighty God: إِنَّ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ لَهُمْ جَنَّاتٌ تَجْرِي مِن تَحْتِهَا الْأَنْهَارُ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الْفَوْزُ الْكَبِيرُ Lo! those who believe and do good works, theirs will be Gardens underneath which rivers flow. That is the Great Success. (Surah al Buruj 11) On Judgment Day we are all faced with the scale of deeds, wherein our bad deeds will be weighed against the good. Those whose bad deeds outweigh the good face the punishment of Allah. What are good deeds? There are a large variety of good deeds a Muslim can perform for the sake of Allah. Here are only a few examples: >Salah It is the first obligation of the Muslim after the Shahada and such a great thing that it deserves its own thread altogether. >Coming to the mosque Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said: Whoever goes to the mosque in the morning and evening, then Allah will prepare for him a place in Paradise for every morning and evening. (Sahih Bukhari 631) And he reported: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said:

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Rewards for our good deeds There is a great deal of reward in this world and the next to be attained through our good works, by Allah's grace. Allah says: مَنْ عَمِلَ صَالِحًا مِّن ذَكَرٍ أَوْ أُنثَىٰ وَهُوَ مُؤْمِنٌ فَلَنُحْيِيَنَّهُ حَيَاةً طَيِّبَةً ۖ وَلَنَجْزِيَنَّهُمْ أَجْرَهُم بِأَحْسَنِ مَا كَانُوا يَعْمَلُونَ Whosoever doeth right, whether male or female, and is a believer, him verily we shall quicken with good life, and We shall pay them a recompense in proportion to the best of what they used to do. It is from the mercy and bounty of Almighty Allah that He multiplies our good deeds. Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) said: Every deed of the son of Adam is multiplied from ten to seven hundred times. Allah the Exalted says: Except for fasting, for it is done for my sake and I will reward it. (Sahih Muslim 1151) A good deed is multiplied by Allah from ten like it up to seven hundred. However, a bad deed remains just one bad deed.
>Voluntary fasting (this hadith was cut off) Abu Umamah reported: I said, “O Messenger of Allah, tell me a deed to do.” The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “You must fast, for there is nothing equal to it.” (Sunan al-Nasā’ī 2223)
Monday the 9th of Dhul Hijjah (July 19th) is the day of Arafah. Don't forget to fast in sha Allah! The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was asked about the observance of Saum (fasting) on the day of 'Arafah. He said, "It is an expiation for the sins of the preceding year and the current year." (Narrated by Muslim)
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The Mosque Anonymous 05/20/2021 (Thu) 18:59:39 ID: ad8d65 No.219 [Reply]
The Mosque - the House of Allah Among the seven which are granted shade under the Throne of Allah on Judgement Day - the day when there is no shade but His - is the one whose heart is attached to the mosques. This is mentioned in Sahih al Bukhari Book 10, Hadith 54. The mosque is the place in which Salah is performed. The Arabic word "Masjid" stems from the root s-j-d and means "place of prostration (to Allah)". Indeed the prayer in congregation is much better and more valued than prayer by oneself. The reward for it is twenty-seven times greater (Bukhari Book 10, Hadith 46) than praying alone. And it's mentioned in Riyad us Saliheen Book 8, Hadith 81 that one who prays Isha' in congregation is like one who prayed for half of the night, and the one who prays Fajr in congregation is like one who prayed the entire night. And in Sunan Abi Dawud Book 2, Hadith 164 we are informed: "A man's prayer said along with another is purer than his prayer said alone, and his prayer with two men is purer than his prayer with one, but if there are more it is more pleasing to Allah, the Almighty, the Majestic." And the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him said: "Convey glad tidings to those who walk to the mosque in the darkness. For they will be given full light on the Day of Resurrection." (Riyad us Saliheen Book 8, Hadith 68). The mosque is the place in which Jumu'ah is held. On Friday the Imam delivers a Khutbah (sermon) to his community, and the Jumuah congregation is obligatory for Muslim men to attend. The Muslims should bathe before coming to the mosque, then they should come early and sit and listen attentively to this Khutbah and avoid playing, talking, eating or any distractions. The reward for attending Jumu'ah in the proper manner is tremendous. On Friday we should bathe ourselves, use perfume, wear the best clothes and clean our teeth. In Jami'at Tirmidhi Book 4, Hadith 9 we are informed: Aws bin Aws narrated: "Allah's Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said to me: Whoever performs Ghusl on Friday, and bathes completely, and goes early, arriving early, gets close and listens and is silent, there will be for him in every step he takes the reward of a year of fasting and standing (in prayer)." And in Sahih al Bukhari Book 11, Hadith 34 we are told that Salman Al-Farsi narrated: "Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Anyone who takes a bath on Friday and cleans himself as much as he can and puts oil (on his hair) or scents himself; and then proceeds for the prayer and does not force his way between two persons (assembled in the mosque for the Friday prayer), and prays as much as is written for him and remains quiet when the Imam delivers the Khutba, all his sins in between the present and the last Friday will be forgiven." The mosque is the place in which I'tikaf is practiced.

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Dajjal has already invaded most (if not all) masajid. That's why you can't make solah without disobeying the Hadith by standing 1 meter away from each other. What a sad state the ummah is in right now, dancing to every tune that Dajjal plays.
>>269 Dajjal has not appeared yet. And there are fatawa saying it's ok to keep distance out of necessity.
>>271 >Dajjal has not appeared yet. Of course not. But he has been released. >And there are fatawa saying it's ok to keep distance out of necessity. A fatwa is a legal opinion, and this fatwa in particular is done through an invalid ijtihad. Why is it invalid? Because an ijtihad can only be done when the ummah is facing an unprecedented situation. Is Covid an unprecedented situation? No, it is not. It is a disease outbreak, and there were disease outbreaks in the time of the Prophet and the Aslaf. The plague of Amwas comes to mind. Did the Prophet or the Aslaf enforce lockdowns and permit social distancing in solah during these plague? No, they did not. Then, we already have an example to follow : The Prophet did not social distance during solah in the times of plague. The Aslaf did not social distance during solah in the times of plague. So what gives us the right to do it? The answer : ignorance and arrogance. We'd rather follow the commands of Dajjal's WHO than the teachings of the Prophet. Reminder that in the times of plague, the Prophet's commands were only : "to not enter or leave a plague-affected area, and if you die to the plague while obeying this command, you die as martyr".

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Happy Friday! >Aws bin Aws narrated: "Allah's Messenger (peace and blessings be upon him) said to me: Whoever performs Ghusl on Friday, and bathes completely, and goes early, arriving early, gets close and listens and is silent, there will be for him in every step he takes the reward of a year of fasting and standing (in prayer)."
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Know Your Enemy Anonymous 05/05/2021 (Wed) 22:32:27 ID: b052c4 No.211 [Reply]
KNOW YOUR ENEMY: SATAN All praise is due to Allah Who warned us against the accursed Satan, the enemy of mankind. إِنَّ الشَّيْطَانَ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ فَاتَّخِذُوهُ عَدُوًّا ۚ إِنَّمَا يَدْعُو حِزْبَهُ لِيَكُونُوا مِنْ أَصْحَابِ السَّعِيرِ Surely Satan is an enemy to you, so take him as an enemy. He only invites his followers to become inmates of the Blaze. (Qur'an 35:6) Jihad ash-Shaytaan (Struggle against Satan) is an individual duty upon the Muslims. We must recognize our enemy to effectively fight him. The struggle begins with knowing the enemy. Shaytaan is the greatest deceiver who wants us to turn away from God and away from guidance. He makes evil deeds seem good and good deeds seem evil. The whispers of Shaytaan are such that one believes them to be his own thoughts, but they are in fact from Shaytaan; they must therefore be actively recognized. They include doubts in the religion, doubts in your deeds, doubts in yourself, evil thoughts about others, and anything encouraging laziness, cowardice or weakness, or sowing enmity between the believers, which he seeks to corrupt the Muslim with. The Muslim should not feel safe from the attacks of Shaytaan, because he himself says: ثُمَّ لَآتِيَنَّهُم مِّن بَيْنِ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَمِنْ خَلْفِهِمْ وَعَنْ أَيْمَانِهِمْ وَعَن شَمَائِلِهِمْ ۖ وَلَا تَجِدُ أَكْثَرَهُمْ شَاكِرِينَ "Then I will come to them from before them and from behind them and on their right and on their left, and You will not find most of them grateful" (Qur'an 7:17) The Shaytaan seeks to distract humanity from God's path through trivial games and diversions, and through wealth and children, and through all manners of temptations. Unfortunately we see that most of humanity has fallen for his false promises.

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>>245 Do you plan on posting any facts?
>>254 Shayateen are the kuffar of the jinn, don't know where you're getting your funny stuff from, but I wish you peace good health and get well soon
>>255 Maybe we had a clash of semantics.
>>255 >Shayateen are the kuffar of the jinn Not quite. Shayateen are those who invite others to evil, regardless whether they're human or jinn.
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Jannah Anonymous 05/23/2021 (Sun) 22:15:13 ID: d4c46f No.251 [Reply]
Jannah — Paradise Gardens beneath which rivers flow Just how great is the destination we are striving for? It is impossible for us to imagine the true beauty of Paradise. Here are just a few descriptions from our scriptures: Allah the Almighty says: إِنَّ الْمُتَّقِينَ فِي جَنَّاتٍ وَنَعِيمٍ Lo! those who kept their duty dwell in gardens and delight, فَاكِهِينَ بِمَا آتَاهُمْ رَبُّهُمْ وَوَقَاهُمْ رَبُّهُمْ عَذَابَ الْجَحِيمِ Happy because of what their Lord hath given them, and (because) their Lord hath warded off from them the torment of hell-fire. كُلُوا وَاشْرَبُوا هَنِيئًا بِمَا كُنتُمْ تَعْمَلُونَ (And it is said unto them): Eat and drink in health (as a reward) for what ye used to do, مُتَّكِئِينَ عَلَىٰ سُرُرٍ مَّصْفُوفَةٍ ۖ وَزَوَّجْنَاهُم بِحُورٍ عِينٍ Reclining on ranged couches. And we wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely eyes. (at-Tur 17-20)

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Repentance & Forgiveness Anonymous 04/26/2021 (Mon) 00:20:09 ID: 7c924b No.210 [Reply]
Let's have a thread discussing the topic of repentance and forgiveness in Islam. Among the 99 names of Allah are Ar Rahman (The Most Merciful); Ar Raheem (The Most Forgiving); Al Ghaffar (The Pardoner). Allah the Almighty says: >But those who committed misdeeds and then repented after them and believed - indeed your Lord, thereafter, is Forgiving and Merciful. (al-A'raf 153) Allah the Almighty says: >As for those who repent, believe, and do good deeds, they are the ones whose evil deeds Allah will change into good deeds. For Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (al-Furqan 25) Allah the Almighty says: >He [Abraham] said: "And who despairs of the mercy of his Lord except for those astray?" (al-Hijr 56) Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) having said: >By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, Allah would sweep you out of existence and He would replace (you by) those people who would commit sin and seek forgiveness from Allah, and He would have pardoned them. (Sahih Muslim, Kitab at-Tauba 13)

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Reading Recommendation and Docs Thread Anonymous 12/29/2021 (Wed) 21:45:12 No.2277 [Reply]
Exactly what it says. Post titles, PDFs, TXTs, quotes, whatever you think a Christian should read. And feel free to amend this list as needed.
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About all these myths my own position is utterly and even sadly simple. I say you cannot really understand any myths till you have found that one of them is not a myth. Turnip ghosts mean nothing if there are no real ghosts. Forged bank-notes mean nothing if there are no real bank-notes. Heathen gods mean nothing, and must always mean nothing, to those of us that deny the Christian God. When once a god is admitted, even a false god, the Cosmos begins to know its place: which is the second place. When once it is the real God the Cosmos falls down before Him, offering flowers in spring as flames in winter. “My love is like a red, red rose” does not mean that the poet is praising roses under the allegory of a young lady. “My love is an arbutus” does not mean that the author was a botanist so pleased with a particular arbutus tree that he said he loved it. “Who art the moon and regent of my sky” does not mean that Juliet invented Romeo to account for the roundness of the moon. “Christ is the Sun of Easter” does not mean that the worshipper is praising the sun under the emblem of Christ. Goddess or god can clothe themselves with the spring or summer; but the body is more than raiment. Religion takes almost disdainfully the dress of Nature; and indeed Christianity has done as well with the snows of Christmas as with the snow-drops of spring. And when I look across the sun-struck fields, I know in my inmost bones that my joy is not solely in the spring, for spring alone, being always returning, would be always sad. There is somebody or something walking there, to be crowned with flowers: and my pleasure is in some promise yet possible and in the resurrection of the dead.
>>2294 I started reading this one, per your recommendation. Boy, you weren't kidding about it being comprehensive. It is an eight hundred (counting the extensive indices) monster of a book which addresses even addresses arguments about how the Resurrection should be studied. It does all thos well, and does an excellent job of setting up the world surrounding the New Testament such that it can understood in its proper context. I'm still in Part 1, but I'll heartily second anon's recommendation.
Fellow Christians! In the pastoral letter of the German bishops of June 26, 1941, which was read out in all the Catholic churches in Germany on July 6, 1941, it states among other things: It is true that there are definite commandments in Catholic moral doctrine which are no longer applicable if their fulfillment involves too many difficulties. However, there are sacred obligations of conscience from which no one has the power to release us and which we must fulfil even if it costs us our lives. Never under any circumstances may a human being kill an innocent person apart from war and legitimate self-defense. On July 6, I already had cause to add to the pastoral letter the following explanation: for some months we have been hearing reports that, on the orders of Berlin, patients from mental asylums who have been ill for a long time and may appear incurable, are being compulsorily removed. Then, after a short time, the relatives are regularly informed that the corpse has been burnt and the ashes can be delivered. There is a general suspicion verging on certainty, that these numerous unexpected deaths of mentally ill people do not occur of themselves but are deliberately brought about, that the doctrine is being followed, according to which one may destroy so-called 'worthless life,' that is, kill innocent people if one considers that their lives are of no further value for the nation and the state. I am reliably informed that lists are also being drawn up in the asylums of the province of Westphalia as well of those patients who are to be taken away as so-called 'unproductive national comrades' and shortly to be killed. The first transport left the Marienthal institution near Münster during this past week. German men and women, section 211 of the Reich Penal Code is still valid. It states: 'He who deliberately kills another person will be punished by death for murder if the killing is premeditated.' Those patients who are destined to be killed are transported away from home to a distant asylum presumably in order to protect those who deliberately kill those poor people, members of our families, from this legal punishment. Some illness is then given as the cause of death. Since the corpse has been burnt straight away, the relatives and also the criminal police are unable to establish whether the illness really occurred and what the cause of death was. However, I have been assured that the Reich Interior Ministry and the office of the Reich Doctors' Leader, Dr. Conti, make no bones about the fact that in reality a large number of mentally ill people in Germany have been deliberately killed and more will be killed in the future. The Penal Code lays down in section 139: 'He who receives credible information concerning the intention to commit a crime against life and neglects to alert the authorities or the person who is threatened in time...will be punished.'
>>3250 When I learned of the intention to transport patients from Marienthal in order to kill them, I brought a formal charge at the State Court in Münster and with the Police President in Münster by means of a registered letter which read as follows: "According to information which I have received, in the course of this week a large number of patients from the Marienthal Provincial Asylum near Münster are to be transported to the Eichberg asylum as so-called 'unproductive national comrades' and will then soon be deliberately killed, as is generally believed has occurred with such transports from other asylums. Since such an action is not only contrary to the moral laws of God and Nature but also is punishable with death as murder under section 211 of the Penal Code, I hereby bring a charge in accordance with my duty under section 139 of the Penal Code, and request you to provide immediate protection for the national comrades threatened in this way by taking action against those agencies who are intending their removal and murder, and that you inform me of the steps that have been taken." I have received no news concerning intervention by the Prosecutor's Office or by the police...Thus we must assume that the poor helpless patients will soon be killed. For what reason? Not because they have committed a crime worthy of death. Not because they attacked their nurses or orderlies so that the latter had no other choice but to use legitimate force to defend their lives against their attackers. Those are cases where, in addition to the killing of an armed enemy in a just war, the use of force to the point of killing is allowed and is often required. No, it is not for such reasons that these unfortunate patients must die but rather because, in the opinion of some department, on the testimony of some commission, they have become 'worthless life' because according to this testimony they are 'unproductive national comrades.' The argument goes: they can no longer produce commodities, they are like an old machine that no longer works, they are like an old horse which has become incurably lame, they are like a cow which no longer gives milk. What does one do with such an old machine? It is thrown on the scrap heap. What does one do with a lame horse, with such an unproductive cow? No, I do not want to continue the comparison to the end--however fearful the justification for it and the symbolic force of it are. We are not dealing with machines, horses and cows whose only function is to serve mankind, to produce goods for man. One may smash them, one may slaughter them as soon as they no longer fulfil this function. No, we are dealing with human beings, our fellow human beings, our brothers and sisters. With poor people, sick people, if you like unproductive people.

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>>3251 Have you, have I the right to live only so long as we are productive, so long as we are recognized by others as productive? If you establish and apply the principle that you can kill 'unproductive' fellow human beings then woe betide us all when we become old and frail! If one is allowed to kill the unproductive people then woe betide the invalids who have used up, sacrificed and lost their health and strength in the productive process. If one is allowed forcibly to remove one's unproductive fellow human beings then woe betide loyal soldiers who return to the homeland seriously disabled, as cripples, as invalids. If it is once accepted that people have the right to kill 'unproductive' fellow humans--and even if initially it only affects the poor defenseless mentally ill--then as a matter of principle murder is permitted for all unproductive people, in other words for the incurably sick, the people who have become invalids through labor and war, for us all when we become old, frail and therefore unproductive. Then, it is only necessary for some secret edict to order that the method developed for the mentally ill should be extended to other 'unproductive' people, that it should be applied to those suffering from incurable lung disease, to the elderly who are frail or invalids, to the severely disabled soldiers. Then none of our lives will be safe any more. Some commission can put us on the list of the 'unproductive,' who in their opinion have become worthless life. And no police force will protect us and no court will investigate our murder and give the murderer the punishment he deserves. Who will be able to trust his doctor any more? He may report his patient as 'unproductive' and receive instructions to kill him. It is impossible to imagine the degree of moral depravity, of general mistrust that would then spread even through families if this dreadful doctrine is tolerated, accepted and followed. Woe to mankind, woe to our German nation if God's Holy Commandment 'Thou shalt not kill,' which God proclaimed on Mount Sinai amidst thunder and lightning, which God our Creator inscribed in the conscience of mankind from the very beginning, is not only broken, but if this transgression is actually tolerated and permitted to go unpunished. Cardinal Clemens von Galen - August 3, 1941

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Judaism Exposed Anonymous 01/08/2022 (Sat) 16:39:51 No.2655 [Reply]
This thread is for documenting the perverse nature of modern-day "Judaism", i.e. that religion which emerged following the destruction of the Second Temple that rejects Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah. Topics that this thread could cover include the nature of the Talmud, Kabbalah, Saturn occultism, Passover blood sacrifices, perverse and immoral Jewish practices and much more.
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GENTILES ARE NOT HUMAN Bava Mezia 114b:2 >Rabbi Shimon ben Yoḥai says that the graves of gentiles do not render one impure, as it is stated: “And you, My sheep, the sheep of My pasture, are man” (Ezekiel 34:31), which teaches that you, i.e., the Jewish people, are called “man,” but gentiles are not called “man.” Since the Torah states with regard to ritual impurity imparted in a tent: “If a man dies in a tent” (Numbers 19:14), evidently impurity imparted by a tent does not apply to gentiles. https://www.sefaria.org/Bava_Metzia.114b.2?with=all&lang=bi Yevamot 61a >The graves of gentiles do not render items impure though a tent, as it is stated: “And you My sheep, the sheep of My pasture, are men [adam]” (Ezekiel 34:31), from which it is derived that you, the Jewish people, are called men [adam] but gentiles are not called men [adam]. Since the Torah introduces the halakha of ritual impurity of a tent with the words: “When a man [adam] dies in a tent” (Numbers 19:14), this halakha applies only to corpses of Jews but not those of gentiles. >The Gemara raises an objection based upon the verse with regard to captives taken during the war against Midian: “And the persons [nefesh adam] were sixteen thousand” (Numbers 31:40), which indicates that gentiles are also referred to as adam. The Gemara answers: They are given this title due to the need to distinguish the people taken captive from the animals that were taken as spoils of war. https://www.sefaria.org/Yevamot.61a.1?with=all&lang=bi
>>2988 that entire book is so twisted and insane. What sort of sick mind(s) would come up with even half of the content inside that book?
>>2988 >talmud >hate, racism And theft, grand larceny, massive child abuse rituals, women hating, animal abuse, forgeries, necrophilia, scatophilia, genocide, mass murder, torture, blasphemies, etc Pretty much everything bad under the sun
>>2655 thank you very much for all of this information. it's greatly appreciated. God bless you!
Where next on our fantastic voyage of uncovery? The Kibbutz? The Khazar?

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Anonymous 06/17/2021 (Thu) 19:01:47 No.1080 [Reply]
Will the Jews ever accept the Christ, their King?
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Deuteronomy 9:5 Not because of your righteousness or the uprightness of your heart are you going in to possess their land, but because of the wickedness of these nations the Lord your God is driving them out from before you, and that he may confirm the word that the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob. THE OLD COVENANT The first covenant began with Noah and Abram who God made promises to which led to the Nation/Peoples of Israel. The People of Israel spent 40 years in the desert. Many of them wanted to turn back to their old ways and be slaves in Egypt. Not everyone made it to see the finalisation of The First Covenant, with the Ten Commandments and the Mosaic laws. They didn't have faith in God. God didn't do what they expected. He saved them with miracles but didn't just give them the land he promised right away. He made them suffer and tested them on a personal level. This is important that God doesn't just do what you want or expect him to do. He doesn't liberate without putting you through trials. The Ark of the Covenant held the Ten Commandments and was used in a ritual for the forgiveness of sins. It was kept in a tent until the Temple of The Lord was built and it was housed there. This is the climax of The First Covenant. The place where the Ark of the Covenant was kept is still visible in the dome of the rock, a square cutout the exact dimensions of the Ark as was described in the Bible. It was 40 years after Jesus' death when the Temple of The Lord was destroyed for the last time and this time it was brought down to nothing and never rebuilt. The Ark has long been missing and the nation of Israel never recovered for 2000 years. The Jewish people scattered, divided and frankly going from the most important to one of the least important people on Earth. This couldn't make it any clearer that either God left the world behind or left The First Covenant behind. Jewish people still pretend to keep the Mosaic Law in such weird ways like the way their hair represents field distribution or something but the problem is the Mosaic Laws often have no relevancy to today, essentially when the nation it was made for didn't exist for over 2000 years. The First Covenant was nearing the end of its fullness as humanity progressed. God likes to plant seeds and see things grow and he knows the future and he tells the Jews what is to be the future. The later scriptures and prophets from 700-500 BC become more and more concerned with Israel's judgment and need to return to the Lord. Jerimiah 31:31-34. This is where God describes the New Covenant and says the days are coming when he will make it with Israel and Judah. It describes it as different and no longer being about a list of rules but rather God's laws being within the people and he shall remember their sin no more.
THE NEW COVENANT Hundreds of years later (“days” in God's eyes) Jesus The Messiah comes to Israel, an important Jewish prophecy. The Messiah who is the Word of God offers the New Covenant to the Jews. God was trying to treat humanity like adults now and update them. You have to tell a child to brush his teeth but if you have to tell a 20 year old to brush his teeth something is wrong with him. The Messiah said you know the commandments already why should he have to tell you about them? You know what is good and evil and so now you must go beyond and not even think evil deeds and you must only love one another. Become more like God and that is why The Messiah is here as an example. You don't need all these rules, for the law is and will be written in your heart. Many Jews accept this however many do not on the grounds that Jesus is not the Messiah. There are many reasons to believe or doubt Jesus was the messiah “King of the Jews”. But the main reason some Jews didn't accept him is simply because he wasn't freeing Israel from the Romans and making Israel a huge nation at the center of the world which they were expecting. There's many things written about the messiah in the prophecies, too much to go into. But Jesus was far too humble and meek to be a warlord King who would save the world. Though part of the Prophecy is that he would either come as a terrible force or a humble peasant. What of those who accepted the new covenant with Jesus? “Christians.” These people by following what Jesus had taught did what the Jews wished for but could never accomplish, they defeated the Roman Empire and not only that but converted them away from their pagan idols and temple prostitutes. While Christians were being imprisoned and tortured they were also passing around Peter's letters telling them to love and honour the Emperor. The meek sheep of love won without firing a bullet. The Messiah's name is suppose to be Emmanuel but his name is given as Jesus. This is noted in the Gospels as just a fact of reality, it is how it is. Well Jesus knew the scriptures so why didn't he change his name to Emmanuel if he wanted to fool people into thinking he was the messiah? How come the Romans who some claim invented the entire New Testament decide to call him Jesus and not Emmanuel if they wanted to fool the Jews? God is always a bit odd and not what you expect. Emmanuel means “God with us” and is exactly what Jesus is and what he came to do with the New Covenant. Jesus did indeed save the world. But God doesn't just give anyone whatever they want. So he asked that to be saved you must follow and believe in his example and believe in his power and divinity. God very often displayed his power entirely for people to tell of it and believe in it. If everyone followed Christ we would have a world at peace. There are other reasons some of the Jewish people didn't accept the New Covenant. Jesus criticized the Pharisees. These people were heroes at the time. In the past 100 years they had essentially saved Jewish culture from Roman/Greek and Syrian influence. They brought back a strict reading of Scripture. Jesus complimented the Pharisees saying they were very smart in the Law. But “You search the scriptures because in them you think you have eternal life but the scriptures speak of me.” John the Baptist said not to be proud or think you are so great or special because you are sons of Abraham, God can make these stones into sons for Abraham. This is a summery of the Apostate Jewish person. The Apostate Jew is excited to see the Messiah who will bring Israel to glory and they will be seated in powerful positions. The prophecy however mentions there will be no separation between Jew and Gentile quarters in the new Jerusalem. The Apostate Jew wants to hold on to what has become largely a man-made culture which they think comes from God. Israel is God's chosen people and if they had followed Jesus and the New Covenant they would now a great nation and focus of the world, freed from the Romans as they were freed from the Egyptians.

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It is amazing that most historians agree Gospels were written before the Temple's destruction. But what are we to make of Jesus predicting the Temple's destruction. Lucky guess? And the mention of Jesus' body being the new Temple? The Temple was where sacrifices were made and sins were forgiven. As the Temple was holy so to is Christ's body holy and we worship him. The Apostate Jews can worship the remains of a wall that once surrounded the Temple. But they ought to worship the Temple that still exists. For it is not the Temple building that was important but what was done there. The wall does nothing. Christ does everything. God did not leave without a way for forgives. They had 40 years to come to God's covenant and many did, but the loudest and those who adhere to their old flashy ways stayed and have passed down that tradition of denial. Now Israel has come back recently through bloodshed to fulfill the final prophecies at the time God chooses. Deuteronomy 9:6 Know, therefore, that the Lord your God is not giving you this good land to possess because of your righteousness, for you are a stubborn people.
>>3210 >has come back You call the Republic of Israel a legitimate return? lol
>>3228 If it's called Israel it's Israel that's all that's needed for the end day events. I've always felt like we're 1000 years away. Because Jesus came back in 3 days and Peter says 1 day is like 1000 days for God.

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Gods light = amazing praise the lord Anonymous 01/24/2022 (Mon) 20:24:33 No.3217 [Reply]
I love and have faith I the one true God who came into this world to save sinners among whome I am first. Butcher the servants of the antichrist and all their children!!!!

>>3114 This has a lot of meme potential. Can you make more edits like that? Like Asian, Slav, Arab, etc?
>>3167 They're not mine originally but I can try. Can't be that hard.
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>>3167 >>3185 I hope they're good.

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Anonymous 01/24/2022 (Mon) 02:00:02 No.3170 [Reply]
For the high church types here: does the practice of consecrating a church with the namesake of one of the saints or another when it has no direct connection to nor any relics in connection to said saint merit disapproval? In 787, it was decreed: >Let anyone, then, that consecrates a temple without holy relics be deposed from office, on the ground that he has transgressed ecclesiastical traditions. (c. XCI of Carthage.) >As for any prelate that consecrates a temple hereafter without holy relics of martyrs, let him be deposed from office as a transgressor of ecclesiastical traditions. >Concord. >Canon XCI of Carthage decrees that those sacrificial altars in which there is treasured no body or relics of martyrs are to be wrecked or disapproved. http://www.intratext.com/IXT/ENG0835/_P52.HTM The full-text of the canon of the Council of Carthage was as follows: >Of false Memories of Martyrs >Item, it seemed good that the altars which have been set up here and there, in fields and by the wayside as Memories of Martyrs, in which no body nor relics of martyrs can be proved to have been laid up, should be overturned by the bishops who rule over such places, if such a thing can be done. But should this be impossible on account of the popular tumult it would arouse, the people should none the less be admonished not to frequent such places, and that those who believe rightly should be held bound by no superstition of the place. And no memory of martyrs should at all be accepted, unless where there is found the body or some relics, on which is declared traditionally and by good authority to have been originally his habitation, or possession, or the scene of his passion. For altars which have been erected anywhere on account of dreams or inane quasi-revelations of certain people, should be in every way disapproved of. https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/3816.htm

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>>3170 Do they not even have third of fourth class relics? That just sounds weird to me, considering those can be infinitely produced.
>>3197 Protestant churches, including Anglicans, after the arguments of Luther and Calvin, do not revere relics and therefore do not have them in consecrations: >Luther clearly thought all relics were ridiculous nonsense and evidences of a very degraded sense of spiriituality. >“It is claimed that the head of St. John the Baptist is in Rome, although all histories show that the Saracens opened John’s grave and burned everything to powder. Yet the pope is not ashamed of his lies. So with reference to other relics like the nails and the wood of the cross—they are the greatest lies.” (Martin Luther's Works, Vol 54.131) >Furthermore, at the time of Luther, the superstition surrounding relics seems to have really been highly imaginative that only an unspiritual mind could ever conjure: >“Certain men have impudently boasted that they possess a feather from the holy angel St. Michael. The bishop of Mainz claims to have a flame from the bush of Moses. So in Compostella the banner is exhibited that Christ had in hell, and likewise the crown of thorns, the nails, etc., and also some of Mary’s milk.” (Martin Luther's Works, Vol 54.247)  https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/9533/how-did-luther-view-relics-like-the-preserved-head-of-john-the-baptist >Calvin described relics from 12 cities in Germany, three cities in Spain, 15 cities in Italy, and 30-40 cities in France. He asserted that fake relics had been traded since Augustine's lifetime, and had increased as the world inevitably became more corrupt. Calvin proposed to abandon the veneration of relics, citing God's hiding of Moses' burial place in the Old Testament book of Deuteronomy (34:6). According to Calvin, God hid Moses' body so the Jews would not fall into idolatry (which he equated with the veneration of relics). Calvin listed in detail the falsified Christian relics known to him, which were kept in churches and monasteries. According to him, saints had two, three or more bodies with arms and legs; extra limbs and heads also existed. Calvin did not understand where the relics of the Biblical Magi, the Bethlehem babies, the stones which killed Stephen, the Ark of the Covenant, or Aaron's two rods (instead of one) came from. Objects of worship included Jesus' robe and a towel with which he wiped himself. The relics had several copies, in different places. Others included a piece of fish which Christ ate after the resurrection, Christ's footprint on a stone, and his tears. Cults of hair and the Milk of the Virgin were widespread. The combined quantity of Mary's milk was so great that, according to Calvin, only a cow could produce that much. Other objects of Marian worship were a very large shirt, two combs, a ring, and slippers. Relics associated with the Archangel Michael were a small sword and shield with which the disembodied Michael defeated the disembodied spirit of the Devil. At the end of the treatise, Calvin warned the reader: >"And so completely are they all mixed up and huddled together, that it is impossible to have the bones of any martyr without running the risk of worshipping the bones of some thief or robber, or, it may be, the bones of a dog, or a horse, or an ass. Nor can the Virgin Mary's ring, or comb, or girdle, be venerated without the risk of venerating some part of the dress of a strumpet. Let every one, therefore, who is inclined, guard against this risk. Henceforth no man will be able to excuse himself by pretending ignorance"[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treatise_on_Relics Post-Vatican II Catholicism no longer requires, thought it recommends, relics in the consecration of an altar: >But ever since the reforms of Vatican II in the early 1960s, relic veneration has virtually disappeared from the official landscape of Catholicism, particularly in the United States. Relics weren’t actually mentioned during the three-year council, but church leaders did address the way new churches should be designed. By the time Vatican II was over, iconography was out, in favor of a lighter, more airy atmosphere, uncluttered by images and, apparently, relics. If that wasn’t enough, in 1969, the church officially laid to rest the 787 ruling at Nicaea by no longer requiring Catholic churches to posses a holy remnant at their altars. https://slate.com/human-interest/2009/10/it-s-time-to-bring-relics-back-to-the-catholic-church.html So for these churches to be formally consecrated, they either need relics delivered to them or an altar installed (many Protestant churches simply have a table, so "overturning" them isn't as great an ordeal as it seems), unless they operate under some condition of necessity.

olingo Anonymous 01/24/2022 (Mon) 12:25:54 No.326 [Reply]
This tree bear has a long pretty tail

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The Unpardonable sin Anonymous 01/23/2022 (Sun) 09:05:12 No.3137 [Reply]
Apparently if you are a Christian, a self professing believer in Christ that is faithful till his death, you can still end up in hell. To fulfill this condition, you must be fully aware that you are about to commit a sinful act, with full knowledge that you shouldnt be doing this, yet you acted against your conscience. Truth be told, most of you have commited this grisl act. My question to you, how do you cope with the impending eternal torment that awaits you? >Hebrews 10 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

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>>3136 >misses the end of Hebrews 10 >Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward. >For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise. >For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. >Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. >But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul. Hebrews 10:35-39
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>>3160 Or just actually pray with the expectation of reality to change. You people overthink god and prayer.
OP is basically trying to demoralize people so they lose faith. Such a silly tactic.
>>3169 It almost worked :(
>>3184 Nah. The response was immediate. :^]

Fellow Time Traveler 04/15/2020 (Wed) 02:12:08 No.536 [Reply] [Last]
Aesthetics thread Missing files >>1594
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I have come to the realization that I am madly in love with the metal heart aesthetic and I want to replicate it using modern web technology. Aside from the obvious (don't use XHR panels, don't use flat iPhone buttons/symbols), how can I do this? There are a few archival sites I've found that discuss old aesthetics, but there doesn't seem to be any demand for people to make websites like this, and thus there are no tutorials. I basically want to take standard CSS and make it look like everything on the page is made of molten metal, mercury, and other types of machinery. How can I do this without just loading a shit tonne of PNG images for frames, borders, etc.? I know that a lot of the animated and interactive websites I remember fondly were made with Adobe Flash, which isn't supported anymore - but surely there must be some way to replicate the look and feel of them, right? Here are some resources I found which catalogue old aesthetics, so I'm at least contributing something: https://www.webdesignmuseum.org/ https://yewtu.be/channel/UCLdCQ9kNutdT7rCF6ZOrFNg https://yewtu.be/watch?v=V1we3O42ZWI (pic related) https://www.webdesignmuseum.org/gallery/realityslip-2003 (pic related) https://cari.institute/aesthetics/metalheart https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Aesthetics_Wiki (this one seemed surprisingly robust considering it's a Fandom wiki - make sure you have your script blockers disabled)
>>2186 >How can I do this without just loading a shit tonne of PNG images Your picrel looks like it's mostly made up of prefab assets, which makes sense since scaling was less of a concern back then. Gradients and single pixel borders seem integral to the look. CSS is turing complete so the answer is basically 'learn CSS' though there may be a performance impact of generating this design in real time.
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>>2186 I hate to break it to you but you'll most likely be using PNGs for everything, including borders because CSS borders are very basic unless you nest <div> elements to "stack" different colored borders which is a very very bad idea. A few observations I can make from the websites you posted: >the entire page is designed like an image, with pixel perfect placement and sizing of elements (forget about responsiveness and "mobile" layouts) >images are kept to a minimum so they don't clash with the overall design and side/background graphics >images that do get posted have the same colors as the website theme, this is quite autistic but it works in the favor of the overall aesthetic >layouts are not minimal, but not overly complex either, it's a very delicate balance >who cares about the content? I'm looking at cool graphics! Good luck trying to replicate Metalheart, try to be as authentic as possible.
>>2190 >prefab assets I can live with that. Vector images or large PNGs should be functional for most screen resolutions, and shouldn't be too much data since they'd just be simple gradients. >CSS animations I toyed around with those a bit and they seem promising. I'll probably have to use that for most of the animations themselves, with minor adjustments to get unique movement instead of using the default movement curve. >>2192 >stacking divs Nah. My personal website only uses a bit of that to make layout work: at the deepest, it's page wrapper, section wrapper, content wrapper, content. I'll need to spend time thinking about colour schemes and how to make things look glassy or embossed. This kind of creative stuff doesn't come easily to me.
>>2195 You can achieve gradients with CSS, do not waste PNGs on that. Definitely make use of vectors if you can, but a properly compressed PNG will do most of the time.

فلان 12/29/2021 (Wed) 18:47:31 No.312 [Reply]
IS islam a warrior religion ?im not saying it as a bad thing I think the white races needs a warrior creed. Islam seems a warrior code-religion: beheading enemies in public(yes,i have hadith which authorize this),thot-patrolling, mutilating thieves,slaving enemies, heavenly women for martyrs. oh, i crave a cult of guns and knives! I dont even hate israel but admire the drive and dedication hamas and fatah have in trying to destroy it.
Islam does not shy away from righteous violence but it's not a "cult of guns and knives". It is the religion of faith in God and following the path of His Messenger.

Chats NudeNinax 06/24/2021 (Thu) 14:10:32 No.5173 [Reply]
Hey I'm new does anybody want to talk?
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>>5760 red one looks great
hi
>>6192 hey
Neighbours how do you even talk or even have a normal conversation its impossible to do
Chat, I'm bored

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So anons, how's your life going? Anon 07/09/2021 (Fri) 20:33:28 No.5219 [Reply]
Me, I'm thinking of getting the ASVAB because well... I don't exactly know where to go in my life than just being a neet and I don't want that. Might as well make my self useful huh
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>>5976 OP here Actually finished bootcamp (surprisingly easy lol) and graduated a week ago! It was actually a nice experience and definitely gave me a confident boost and some nice bros! Hardest part of it was definitely the starting days where you don't know what the quack to do and caca, but it all goes smooth sailing as time passes on (really eberrything became a routine, even the ITs).
>>5219 not much for me, just kinda existing. I work on some projects in my garage eberry now and then, go out for walks and put up posters, but other than that i dont really do much. I live too far away from all my friends from school so the only irl friend i have left is a guy named Greg (hes pretty cool) but we dont talk often. I dont even talk to my online friends that much anymore, im never playing the games the play or anything like that. Plus we just kinda have our differences. Im not even sulking about any of this, its been like this for so long i dont even really care anymore
>>6279 thats good to hear,
>>5219 I'm starting college in early february with a full scholarship plus i lift 3x a week and i'm starting to look good
Caca like always

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First Dolls Anonymous 05/03/2020 (Sun) 02:10:18 No.160 [Reply]
How'd you get your first doll, anon? What's she like? Pic unrelated.
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>>300 Yeah I probably will just pay for a face up Think I am going to buy one of the basic dolls instead Yur since she is in stock someone suggested looking on etsy for doll clothes I found some but most of them don't really look very nice anyother places to look iple house have nothing
I ordered my doll from Iplehouse. Now I have to wait for months better be worth the wait
>>304 Why so slow?
>>305 Order times like that are pretty common on the resin end of the hobby.
>>305 Done by hand 60-90 days is consider fast

Anonymous 01/05/2022 (Wed) 04:56:53 No.2490 [Reply] [Last]
Well, I don’t really know how should I explain my situation. My life is a mess, I don’t have any friends, or a girlfriend, or someone that really cares about me. Since I was a child I was humiliated and treated badly, I'm a porn addict since I was a child and I discovered that one of my family members is planning to make an OnlyFans account. I see that this world is getting more shitty and degenerate and I feel like our leaders (most probably Jews) are trying to enslave everyone. I don't even trust Christianity because of its Jewish roots (I don't care if someone says that "not all Jews are evil" or "some jews are cool tradcaths!", I don't trust them and I hate them with all my soul, no matter what). Since I was a kid I was bullied for being autistic, so that's probably the reason I have BPD nowadays. I have a lot of traumas that I can't forget, and I get really nervous when I remember some of them. I'm planning to kill myself soon (I'm going for a few days to a place I used to go when I was a kid, so I will just end it all there), I'm tired of everything, I have never been happy in my whole life. All I just wanted is have a nice asian wife (sounds like a joke for some reason, but I liked asian girls since I'm a kid), live in a nice place, have friends and raise children, sounds weird but if I was specific I would liked to live in a place like Japan in the 2000s or 90s, before the Internet and Technology in general became this shitfest, but I guess that's not going to happen. The best case scenario is that I end up as a wageslave for some kike until my diet of shitty soylent food and the EMFs in my city ends up killing me. Every plan I make goes out wrong, it's like I have bad luck or that something wants me to suffer for some reason. I asked God to help me but he doesn't answer. And I don't know if he does exist or he is just some kind of Tulpa. But the thing is that I'm tired of this world.
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>>3146 A man is to be helped, one way or another. That you have possibly suffered more is irrelevant. It grants you no more authority over him than us. A man who lives angry and unfulfilled will die angry and unfulfilled. And you will die, anon. How you choose to do it is entirely your choice. But to impede the help of another soul is mere spite. You may pride yourself on being stone now, but stone merely wears away into rocks and sand.
what the fuck happened to my thread, i just left for a few hours
>>3146 >>3147 >>3148 those are literally female tier arguments "YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SUFFER BECAUSE I SUFFERED MORE!!!!!!!!!!" also, i never told my entire problems, the things i posted in my op thread are just some of the most important in my opinion. >>3134 >Did you end up getting a permit to travel? It's been nearly two weeks now. i didn't check yet
>>3134 >If you live in a part of the world where church hasn't happened yet, I would recommend a sacramental church (Catholic, High Anglican, Orthodox) if there is one available. For many reasons not least of which is you'll have a better experience there I think. Low churches can be very overwhelming for new people. High churches can be overwhelming if anon doesn't know the order of service. Even a traditional Lutheran service which is dead in the middle in terms of liturgical complexity has a particular format to be followed: https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=dPAlusnIgM8 Low churches seem more like social clubs where cheesy contemporary Christian rock music is played between paraphrased readings of the Bible and an improvised sermon that takes up the majority of the time. I don't see consecration in them but perhaps those who participate in their services get greater value out of it. Many churches have put recordings of their services online over the past two years so it would be prudent for anon to view them before reaching out and visiting.
>>3151 Check the catalog?

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Dreams thread, the /comfy/ awake in the sleep Anon 05/27/2020 (Wed) 07:38:01 No.1181 [Reply]
It begun with a small tale of an old man dressed in eastern clothes, how he described the actions of a hero who never returned. As he was speaking actions of martial arts and combat were in the background, sketches of them, until he names the title of the event entuthiastically, where the characters strike a pose and the art gets detailed in the middle of the screen. The last segment of it there was a map like thing, it showed the progress that was made in the story, the last bit the protagonist made was on a boat that was turned upside down, the bodies were floating under it. For eberry step before it, a small scene wood happen in the map, the last scene had the hero pushing over the giant baron from a cave and going to the coast to get to his their boat Before getting out of the sea, there were two demons protecting a pagoda thing in a berry abrupt cliff with a thin bridge. One of them had one arm as the wing of a dragon and red, he protected the door, the other one was green and had tenctacle like hair and protected the bridge. The villain in the tower always has a story of where the characters that dissapointed him are thrown to a pit where the character's mother died. it consists of a destroyed staircase where the way out is by jumping to the cliffs that have been separated. Many just end up falling to their deaths. And in one point, the red winged man gets sent to it, tries to get out, only for some force to slap him on the head and his skull to hit a wall and slides to his death There is also at one point a baron of hell like creature emerging from one giant hole, only his head is seen, but it's huge and hides the sun in a moment. The sky was dry orange and the ground was like the grand canyon. Imagine Mario Kart 64's Yoshi's Canyon with all the roads being small and falling from them sending to your doom, it was like that but with more highs and lows, a pagoda/eastern castle hidden between the mountains, and small bridges and ropes connecting small locations The appeal of the story is that it was narrated by anons from one imageboard since many years and as it went on it got expanded. story of one man who went to the island of twisted cliffs and canyons to get revenge at those who killed his mother. The visuals were similar to those old greek myth movies from the 50s. The character may've worn a torso armor that only covered his torso, and brown leather shorts, but he did look like a greek warrior from those movies with his hair curled and an absolute unit. Unrelated, I was stuck on a high tree at some point, like 20 meters tall. I asked a man down there if he could call the firefigters for help. I descended with a rope tight in my waist. When I got to the ground the sky was oddly clear, a colour combination between light blue and chrome. I came across an old man, we exchanged some letters and he gave me the name for a writer of a book. then I walked to the horizon where there was more light blue/chromed things, probably a city, probably a pier. probably a path in the middle of the water, probably a path with the waters next to it and leading to the city. Been a while since I had dreams like this, I think it's due to practising something I like to call "Musical Visualisation" where I imagine a setpiece, scene, or environment from the music I'm listening. This time it was pic related, I think getting to focused on Corona-Chan's journey is letting me forget the things I was capable or I am capable of.
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I don't usually dream anything special at night, but my midday nap dreams are the most vivid I ever had. Absolute crystal clarity, and they only last for short moments before I wake up. Crazy stuff
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I dreamt that a bunch of thugs were in front of a man's house because he said Battlefield (the videogame) was bad. At one point some black folk get cocky and say "Nuh uh, you didn't say that, you said the game's baaaad" and slowly violence starts too escalate. I get pissed and start yelling at them "YOU'RE A FUCKING NIGGER" repeatedly loud and even attempt to punch them, but my fists didn't go through
Dreamed that I was a small boy playing Star Fox on my parents' room while they were sleeping. The dim light of the tube TV and the clack of the n64 controller made me weirdly nostalgic. Perhaps Kinaman's documentary about the Dendy made me dream like this. Despite not being russian a lot of my youth was similar to his up until I got an N64
I dreamt of an old anime guy that I used to watch rec'ing some anime nobody heard about. One that stuck with me was called "Milev/Medliv and the house of miracles". It was based on the world of Omori, but due to some event in the game they visit a house and doing this made the world get stripped of it's soul, it's style and any semblance of what it was before, eberrything that was left was a sea of red and a black sky wIth some stars. Medliv in order to fix this has to visit certain houses around the flooded world that host spirits that can break free this world from the curse that has been brought.
I've been enjoying my dreams lately. Lucid, meeting new people, visiting new places, having a lot of fun exploring my dream world.

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Prayer thread Anonymous 01/13/2022 (Thu) 23:55:53 No.2849 [Reply]
Post your prayers here and other anons will pray for you.
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>>2849 I pray for a lot more money coming to me this year And that board spammers perma leave this board
I wish i could add this to the OP, but just because someone doesn't post that they prayed for your request doesn't it wasn't prayed for.
Please pray for my father and my family; my father is threatening to divorce my mother, and I do not know if I could live through my family falling apart.
I want to get out of this house. I want to get away from my family. I feel like a prisoner here. I don't have any friends or other family. I don't know what the right thing to do is.
I just felt like praying a prayer for my fellow Anons. I hope God will watch over you and yours and that you'll have the happiness that you deserve. Amen. In the end we all simply do what we think is right.

/retro/-Where the 90's and 2000's Live On CaesarDude 09/06/2019 (Fri) 23:05:29 No.1 [Reply] [Last]
Alright, this is meant to be a successor to /y2k/ on the old 8chan, however I have expanded it to include both the 1990's and the 2000's and NSFW content is allowed, provided it's actually related to the purpose of this board and doesn't violate any of the site's core rules.
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>>2180 I can turn off the captcha for posts, but I don't think i can do anything with the block bypass.

The Virgin Mary Anonymous 01/03/2022 (Mon) 02:08:53 No.2355 [Reply]
The Theotokos, Queen of Heaven, and Mother of God. This is the thread for discussing Mariology, miracles, apparitions, and visions of our Lord's Mother.
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>>3058 Almost certainly, but you know what, I'm a fa/tg/uy, so let's have some fun. >>3056 So, you acknowledge the divinity of Jesus. Yet you believe that Mary was a 'random' choice, nevermind on its face that the Almighty governs all Creation, and thus there is no such thing as random chance. You also seem to disregard the Gospels themselves and the Archangel Gabriel himself, seeing as all four begin with the Annunciation of Christ's conception and the statement (in one capacity or another) of Mary's worthiness prior to that moment(which included her extensive noble genealogy in one case). Then there's your use of the term golem, and how that term is specifically applied by Talmudic rabbis to women in general. So what do I win, Judaicus?
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>>3067 >extensive noble genealogy Here's something I've been wondering recently. Was it common for Jews back then to keep extensive family records?
>>3056 >women don't have souls. This is a false teaching. The Bible teaches that woman by herself is not created in the divine image, though. A controversial teaching, but this is what the Word of God teaches us >1 Corinthians 11:7— For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. >Genesis 1:27— So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. We see that man is by himself both image and glory of God, but the woman is merely the glory of man. She lacks the image. The woman is a help-mate for the man, and was created from Adam’s rib. But how do we explain Genesis 1:27? Genesis 1:27 is talking about human nature in the abstract. Paul is treating the woman in 1 Corinthians 11:7 in her quality as a help-meet. She is incomplete without a man in a marital union. Woman by herself is not in the divine image. It is only realized when she is joined as one flesh with her husband.
>>3056 What you perceive as your soul is just your groundless superiority complex. Your reason for attacking women is either homosexuality or being undesirable due poor genetics and socialization.
>>3088 While this is likely true, why that reasoning? He might even be unhinged.

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Anonymous 09/03/2021 (Fri) 12:34:50 No.1358 [Reply] [Last]
Why has the Church chosen to follow the world by supporting age of consent and anti-pedophilia? Biblically no distinction is made between children and adults for the purpose of sexuality, so why do even churches who follow the bible on other things like homosexuality go with the flow on this?
Do not advocate or assist real paedophilia or child abuse
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>>1573 Imagine expecting to be taken seriously when your argument is literally "that's stupid"
>>1574 I accept your concession.
>>1474 >he sinneth not: let them marry. >he sinneth not, if she marry. >So then he that giveth not her in marriage doeth better. I'm confused are they getting married or is he letting her be married? 36. KJV: But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry. Geneva: But if anie man thinke that it is vncomlie for his virgine, if she passe the flowre of her age, & ᵍ nede so require, let him do what he wil, he sinneth not: let them be maried. Tyndale: if any man think that it is uncomely for his virgin if she pass the time of marriage, and if so need require, let him do what he listeth, he sinneth not: let them be coupled in marriage. Douayr: But if any man think that he seemeth dishonoured, with regard to his virgin, for that she is above age, and it must be so: let him do what he will; he sinneth not, if she marry. 38. KJV: So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better. Geneva: So then he that giueth her to mariage, doeth wel, but he that giueth her not to mariage, doeth ᵏ better. Tyndale: So then he that joineth not his virgin in marriage doth well. And he that joineth his virgin in marriage doth better. Douayr: Therefore, both he that giveth his virgin in marriage, doth well; and he that giveth her not, doth better.

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sex is a sin. only soulless golems have sex.
>>3097 A Shaker-Jew. How interesting.

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living life as /retro/ as possible Fellow Time Traveler 09/22/2021 (Wed) 03:47:35 No.1985 [Reply] [Last]
Anyone else here /retro/maxxing? I've realized there is no point in denying myself happiness and gigacoziness and I may as well go all in on my retro obsessions even if it's a bit weird. I could list a bunch of things I'm doing but I'll start with just a couple here >film photography I have never bought a digital camera and I have stopped being a NEET lately. I have a small comfy job so I have some money and I buy rolls of film on occasion and I carry a late '90s point and shoot camera with me almost everywhere I go. It's fun and super comfy. I also started developing black and white film myself, at home. >computer I have set up my windows machine to look like windows 98 (not completely accurate but I've changed over the icons and use a classic theme, etc. And on my linux machine I have set it up to look like some versions of UNIX from the late 80s to early 90s. And for my browser I use Pale Moon and I have it set to look like Netscape. >music I go to the record store sometimes and browse around and I have a collection of tapes, CDs, and records which I listen to. I have a lot of fun fixing cassette decks too.

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>>2183 Not in the discussion but some stuff is tougher to do, i recall going to an old store i used to go and the film area is now filled with TVs, very few places process film so one has to DIY which is fairly easy until you get to use colour and then getting the chems is also tough without having to resort to mailing it, which is extra taxes due to being chems themselves. Also some old film equipment is getting scalped hard but at least 135 stuff is still cheap and many good lenses are still relatively accessible.
>>2184 Sales are picking up lately. My local camera store has a small but expanding film section and last time I went, they told me stock was selling as fast as they could get it in. Unfortunately there aren't any more 1 hour photo kind of places, which is unfortunate. Actual photo labs are few and far between, but there are a lot of labs that do mail-in processing which for me has been pretty simple. If you live near one you can drop your film off, too. But I just mail them in. It works fine and I get my stuff back in about a week. I develop B&W at home but doing color is for the most part too expensive and inconvenient to do at home compared to sending it out.
>>2183 I ideally want to develop and print my stuff someday, but I don't have space and have other priorities right now. Film is way more satisfying than digital. I used to shoot digital and edit the crap out of my pictures, but digital just feels soulless to me now in comparison even with editing. >>2185 >Sales are picking up lately. My local camera store has a small but expanding film section and last time I went, they told me stock was selling as fast as they could get it in. I'm glad to hear that. Call me a snob, but I think film should be the standard for photography that isn't just intended for utilitarian purposes.
>>2187 >I ideally want to develop and print my stuff someday, I'd love it if you were able to do that. I develop a bit, but don't have space to make prints. >Film is way more satisfying than digital. Yeah, it really is. Even people I know who aren't like us tend to agree. I've personally never had any interest in digital photography. >I'm glad to hear that. Call me a snob, but I think film should be the standard for photography that isn't just intended for utilitarian purposes. Yep, exactly how I feel. I don't take digital photos except in rare cases when I need to document something and send it to someone. By the way, can I ask what those "other priorities" are right now for you?
>>2187 >Yeah, it really is. Even people I know who aren't like us tend to agree. I've personally never had any interest in digital photography. I think it's pretty sad how much time and money people have been wasted on digital photography when film just feels like the real thing. Even old, amateurish family photos shot on the spur of the moment had charm to them in a way that professional digital photography doesn't. I feel like film is able to capture the way you picture a fond memory, whereas digital is clinical and can be downright harsh. This topic got me thinking about this blog post that I read years ago that helped push me into shooting on film: http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2013/11/in-digital-age-will-we-have-memorable.html I got into digital as a teenager just because it was easier and I liked messing around with programs like Photoshop. I regret not taking film photography classes in school, but at least the digital photography class I took taught me basic composition skills. >By the way, can I ask what those "other priorities" are right now for you? I'm trying to focus on musical interests while working a split shift and dealing with fatigue problems I've had since I was a teenager but have never been able to treat. It's an uphill battle. When I come home from work, I'm not in the mood for doing anything that requires active creativity on my part.

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Thoughts on David Koresh and Branch Davidians? AntichristHaterFortnitePlayer69 01/21/2022 (Fri) 20:58:55 No.3070 [Reply]
I remember watching a Waco documentary about them and it really peaked my interest. Ive never looked too deep into their religious beliefs but the way they were described by the local community painted them as generally good people which reminded me of something Jesus said: 15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit." Matt 7 This made me think that maybe they were on to something (not necessarily that ALL their views were correct) and thats without mentioning how David Koresh literally predicted his death at the hands of "Babylon's Army" what are your thoughts on them? Have any of you ever read into their beliefs?
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>>3070 Even heretics in Catholic Spain were given a fair hearing and trial. What happened to the Branch Davidians was unholy barbarism, plain and simple. A demonstration easy to see with the eyes that one should not put your trust in earthly governments.
>>3071 "Waco: Rules of Engagement" its an old documentary but really good, you should be able to find it on youtube if not i can send you a copy
>>3073 >A demonstration easy to see with the eyes that one should not put your trust in earthly governments. USA is great satan. Why are you surprised that they did that? Trust me, they've done worse.
>>3082 Who said I was surprised? It's simply one of those nasty little incidents that remind you of Americanism's heretical and false nature.

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