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Pre-Goolag YouTube Fellow Time Traveler 10/03/2020 (Sat) 17:51:14 No.848
YouTube was once also part of the old innocent, creative and fun internet when at worst people would make a video in the hopes of it getting viral. But that slowly changed thanks to the Goolag purchase which kept ruining YouTube at small steps and turning it into Cable TV 2.0 and Spotify 2.0 : >forcing people to move to Goolag account to keep their channels and their videos >complying with copyrightniggers as part of the mutual ass-kissing with the government >giving monetary incentives to "content creators" , aka self-important e-celeb faggots, which drawn greedy normalfag scum and later on were removed which in turn force these greedy normalfags to beg for Patreon gibs and get sponsorships to advertise even more shit on youtube >adding ads in the middle of the fucking video as if it was cable tv >letting big cable tv channels having accounts on youtube >removing full albums and songs from non-corporate music channels and reupload them as separate songs by a fucking bots >increasing censorship and removing comments and videos >disorganizing the comments section into a complete messy shitshow >usless redesigning of the site over and over again >changing the 5 star video valuation system to extra faggy like and dislike Let's reminisce of YouTube better days, whether it was a specific channel or video and so on...
I miss YouTube Poops.
Favorite Classic (1-100) AVGN episode? Mine is probably Plumbers Don't Wear Ties closely followed by Lester The Unlikely (even if the game itself isn't that bad).
>>850 Plumbers Don't Wear Ties, maybe. I think it was the first one I ever saw, although that was only a few years ago. I avoided those videos during their heyday but have come to find the old ones pretty decent (but not mind-blowing or anything).
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My earliest usage of youtube was probably around 2006-2007, when I discovered it through another video sharing website called aniboom, which was geared towards animation. One of my favorite videos from there was called The Red Button; a silly 3D animation under a minute long that never failed to make me laugh. It was one of many videos that introduced me to the online world of independent users making 3D animations at home, which I didn't know was possible since the only independent animations I've seen were made in flash. I downloaded so many videos at the time using realplayer (remember that?) and still have them to this day on my old HDD, I can dump some if there's interest... Over time a lot of the animations on aniboom made their way to youtube which became the sole go-to video platform, until aniboom eventually shut down sometime in the 2010s. But I'd say the biggest appeal of youtube to me was that it was the "online MTV". See, my country didn't have MTV or any MTV-like channels, music videos were only occasionally shown on public television during a specific block and that was it. So being able to watch my favorite music videos at any time, on repeat, was a whole new world to me. Reminder that there's a clone of old school youtube called vidlii, complete with the old player, the star rating system, and video responses! I still don't get the purpose of video responses to be frank but they're probably useful to some people. The vidlii player is pretty smooth and the website is lightweight, so maybe people will gradually flock to it? Note that by "people" I mean creators who don't care about monetization and only want to share their content. >>849 Same here! I recall the latest ytps I've seen were frozen ones around 2013-2014, I wonder if they're still up or got copyright shoah'ed?
>>852 >Same here! I recall the latest ytps I've seen were frozen ones around 2013-2014, I wonder if they're still up or got copyright shoah'ed? I can recall several I thought were really funny that must have been taken around close to a decade ago, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Also, I still love the Tourette's Guy.
>>852 Unfortunately, while vidlii does look nice, it is quite modern in the sense that a large chunk of functionality simply doesn't work without javascript. Most importantly, the videos themselves do not work.
>>858 Videos work perfectly on my end, you probably need to re-enable JS. Note that JS is absolutely necessary for functionality as flash is unsupported by browsers and cannot be used, so a 1:1 copy of "flash youtube" is not possible. Vidlii could just embed the video files themselves on the page using HTML5 but that would be nothing like og youtube.
I found/used youtube pretty late in the game, but still before the forced goolag account. In my defense, I listend to music (albums) on Radio3Net and watched videos on Megaupload/videos and Divx stream (I think that's how it was called) RIP. I was given a task in middle school to make videos using (good ol') Windows Movie Maker and upload it to youtube, so of course like any respected weeabo I made AMVs which were long copyrightstriked by goolag and my non goolag account was deleted. Shockingly, my two favorite AMVs still exist somehow >Akira - Come Out and Play by The Offspring https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=Uwcn5jNFIuo 80's anime, 90's song , uploaded/made in the 2000's- perfection! >Death Note - Every Me And Every You by Placebo https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=Wb5sxPKKN28 I was obsessed with both Death Note and Placebo at that time, great band until they went full emo and great anime until Near showed up . It also worth mentioning ashens channel as one of the oldest youtube channels that stayed the same despite all the bs youtube pulling and the internet becoming more cancerous in general. >>852 >vidlii I was almost fooled to believe that it's completely pre-cancer/cancer free site! They do follow the copyright mafia rules, but considering how obscure it is I doubt copyrightniggers looking after it. I mean I saw there are full anime episodes on bitchute and they're probably bigger than vidlii. >I still don't get the purpose of video responses It's adding value to the overall experience and it can be fun to interact either with the other people who also watch it or the creator of the video. >maybe people will gradually flock to it? Note that by "people" I mean creators who don't care about monetization and only want to share their content Hopefully! P.S. Thanks for mentioning this site, I'll try to visit it more often. >>858 Is it even possible to watch any online video without javashit? >>862 >flash From my poor understanding, flash wasn't that secure either even before it's end-of-life.
>>863 >They do follow the copyright mafia rules All websites do nowadays, it's illegal to intentionally host copyrighted material and anyone who goes against that is guaranteed to get v&. On the bright side they're small enough not to be a target of DMCAs, so they can turn a blind eye as long as the content doesn't get reported. >Is it even possible to watch any online video without javashit? Yes it's possible thanks to HTML5. You know when you open a video on julay or any of the imageboards? It's streaming without JS, just embedding the video file itself into the page using pure HTML and letting the browser handle it... That being said, no website will do that, one because it allows the user to just grab the video and download it, and two because you can't skin the video player itself using HTML/CSS, you need JS for that. >flash wasn't that secure either even before it's end-of-life You're correct.
>>864 >no website will do that, one because it allows the user to just grab the video and download it, and two because you can't skin the video player itself using HTML/CSS, you need JS for that. They could allow a skinned player with a "direct link" link in the description as a backup option. Considering that some of the tabs and links require javascript as well, even though they could be implemented in HTML/Javascript, I doubt the site developers even put much thought into why a player should be javascript-only. It's probably just yet another case of web developers being web developers.
>>865 Once upon a time, there existed media players in the form of NPAPI plugins, allowing pretty much the same things a javascript-based player allows. But due to some strange reasoning, NPAPI must be banned because Flash is junk... Imagine if in 2020 we could've used an open sourve ffmpeg-based plugin to watch videos, instead of relying on megabytes of minimized javascript.
I remember early youtube's flash player freezing and crashing all the damn time, but it wasn't quite as shitty as all the other video sharing websites of the day (remember when they all used embedded WMP/real player/quicktime?), which I think is why it initially won out. Youtube still feels like part of the "new web" to me though. By 2007-2008 it had hit the mainstream in full force, you started hearing about youtube and other websites (not least 4chan) in the news and on TV/radio all the time, and celebrities started attaching themselves to it to be "down with the kidz" and keep themselves relevant. I remember there being a strong "oh shit, the internet as we knew it is dead" sentiment at the time, and lots of discussions everywhere about how "the internet sucks now". And it did suck, but not as much as it would later suck.
>>873 >Youtube still feels like part of the "new web" to me though. I agree, even if a lot of the stuff on there in the early days felt a lot closer to the old Internet in character than it does today. >And it did suck, but not as much as it would later suck. I feel nostalgia even for the early 2010s, although that's really just due to that being the period when I started regularly going on imageboards instead of just reading about them on Encyclopedia Dramatica.
>>874 When it comes to the web I think it's too black-and-white to say that the early 2010s sucked. It did suck in some ways, but due to inertia, I would say that some aspects of the modern web were at their finest at that time. At that point, YouTube was already really big, so you could find a lot of content, but mainstream media hadn't jumped on board yet, so there was less censorship. Videos didn't suffer from buffering any more, picture quality was HD, and e-celebs got money from ads rather than from superchats and VPN shilling. It was like getting the benefits of modernity without too many of the downsides, unless my memory is playing tricks on me. You were even discouraged to use your real name for privacy reasons.
>>864 They could just have an onion site or host it in country where they give a rat's ass about copyrights like Russia. I tried to check Vidlii again, more through this time, it seems to be too niche to have any interesting and unique content...but maybe I didn't search properly, any video recommendations? >>873 >Youtube still feels like part of the "new web" Did you start using the internet in the 90's? I started in early 2000's so for me it's not the case. >>875 >it's too black-and-white to say that the early 2010s sucked It was the early process of the decline, so it wasn't completely bad as you pointed, it still had some merits. >At that point, YouTube was already really big, so you could find a lot of content, but mainstream media hadn't jumped on board yet, so there was less censorship True, it was still good period for youtube, you could also watch complete episodes from shows. Not to mention, independent animation was thriving. >and e-celebs got money from ads rather than from superchats and VPN shilling. It was definitely better, however, probably like many I was disgusted and shocked they start doing video ads like cable TV. >You were even discouraged to use your real name for privacy reasons Can you imagine anyone doing this besides "schizos"? To this very day it's mind-blowing me how it became the complete opposite; "post every bit of real information on yourself", truly scary and frightening.
>>903 The thing with VidLii is that there's a lot of potential but not enough people on there If more people joined up and made videos for it, it'd probably be more popular and be sort of an apolitical alternative to YouTube and avoid the stigma of places like BitChute I'd say doing old-school videos like AMV's and slideshow tribute stuff would go a long way in building VidLii since they don't have the automated copyright bots YouTube has.
>>904 The potential for vidlii to become a youtube or even bitchute alternative is zero, because its model is much different and also normalfag-repellent, thankfully. As a free user: - You cannot monetize your videos. - You cannot upload 16:9 videos. - Any video you upload will be downscaled to 360p & its framerate capped at 30 fps. All in the good spirit of keeping it /retro/ of course... These restrictions can be lifted by paying up and becoming a vidlii partner, which is not a bad thing at all considering the owner is the opposite of woke and allows plenty of shit on the website. >I'd say doing old-school videos like AMV's and slideshow tribute stuff would go a long way in building VidLii since they don't have the automated copyright bots YouTube has. Now that's a good idea. Only dedicated people who want to make videos for the fun of it will do this, plenty of potential for new ytps too.
>>905 I have some music videos saved, maybe I'll upload them.
>>905 Agreed, YouTube's too big to replace but I think VidLii is the place to go if you want to actually have fun again making videos or revive old YouTube stand-bys like AMV's, YTP's, slideshow tributes, or just simple rants and musings with no real political or monetary aims
So what does the end of Flash mean for preserving YouTube videos exactly? I know nothing about this stuff.
>>910 If I'm not mistaken, Flash video files are just regular video files in a different container. Most decent video players should be able to play them. I'm not aware of any issues that it would cause from preservation standpoint.
>>911 Okay, that's good to know. I just heard that old websites that relied on Flash were hard to archive and unfortunately have largely been lost to time.
>>848 this was a comfy channel. Shame that a lot of content was lost. https://www.youtube.com/user/hobbexp/videos
Finally, another Tourettes Guy video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3KacGg9aec
>>918 Wow, I actually remember this guys channel. pretty odd seeing someone who didn't have alot of subscribers posted here, had no idea most of the videos were deleted
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>>848 >>changing the 5 star video valuation system to extra faggy like and dislike Looks like they might remove the dislikes function making it even worse then before.
>>1038 Ha! Gayyyy! I wish that dumpster fire of a site would go the way of MySpace. Sadly, it's the standard among video sharing sites. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
>>1038 i'd love to see youtube go full retard and become disney-channel-level-family-friendly. Normalscum would stay, but anyone who really values their time would go searching for alternatives, therefore populating alternative video-sharing-sites. Youtube fags would be ignorant and happy, and we would have a thriving community of content creators, that could make good videos for people that appreciate them.

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