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Pre-Goolag YouTube Fellow Time Traveler 10/03/2020 (Sat) 17:51:14 No.848
YouTube was once also part of the old innocent, creative and fun internet when at worst people would make a video in the hopes of it getting viral. But that slowly changed thanks to the Goolag purchase which kept ruining YouTube at small steps and turning it into Cable TV 2.0 and Spotify 2.0 : >forcing people to move to Goolag account to keep their channels and their videos >complying with copyrightniggers as part of the mutual ass-kissing with the government >giving monetary incentives to "content creators" , aka self-important e-celeb faggots, which drawn greedy normalfag scum and later on were removed which in turn force these greedy normalfags to beg for Patreon gibs and get sponsorships to advertise even more shit on youtube >adding ads in the middle of the fucking video as if it was cable tv >letting big cable tv channels having accounts on youtube >removing full albums and songs from non-corporate music channels and reupload them as separate songs by a fucking bots >increasing censorship and removing comments and videos >disorganizing the comments section into a complete messy shitshow >usless redesigning of the site over and over again >changing the 5 star video valuation system to extra faggy like and dislike Let's reminisce of YouTube better days, whether it was a specific channel or video and so on...
I found/used youtube pretty late in the game, but still before the forced goolag account. In my defense, I listend to music (albums) on Radio3Net and watched videos on Megaupload/videos and Divx stream (I think that's how it was called) RIP. I was given a task in middle school to make videos using (good ol') Windows Movie Maker and upload it to youtube, so of course like any respected weeabo I made AMVs which were long copyrightstriked by goolag and my non goolag account was deleted. Shockingly, my two favorite AMVs still exist somehow >Akira - Come Out and Play by The Offspring https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=Uwcn5jNFIuo 80's anime, 90's song , uploaded/made in the 2000's- perfection! >Death Note - Every Me And Every You by Placebo https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=Wb5sxPKKN28 I was obsessed with both Death Note and Placebo at that time, great band until they went full emo and great anime until Near showed up . It also worth mentioning ashens channel as one of the oldest youtube channels that stayed the same despite all the bs youtube pulling and the internet becoming more cancerous in general. >>852 >vidlii I was almost fooled to believe that it's completely pre-cancer/cancer free site! They do follow the copyright mafia rules, but considering how obscure it is I doubt copyrightniggers looking after it. I mean I saw there are full anime episodes on bitchute and they're probably bigger than vidlii. >I still don't get the purpose of video responses It's adding value to the overall experience and it can be fun to interact either with the other people who also watch it or the creator of the video. >maybe people will gradually flock to it? Note that by "people" I mean creators who don't care about monetization and only want to share their content Hopefully! P.S. Thanks for mentioning this site, I'll try to visit it more often. >>858 Is it even possible to watch any online video without javashit? >>862 >flash From my poor understanding, flash wasn't that secure either even before it's end-of-life.
>>863 >They do follow the copyright mafia rules All websites do nowadays, it's illegal to intentionally host copyrighted material and anyone who goes against that is guaranteed to get v&. On the bright side they're small enough not to be a target of DMCAs, so they can turn a blind eye as long as the content doesn't get reported. >Is it even possible to watch any online video without javashit? Yes it's possible thanks to HTML5. You know when you open a video on julay or any of the imageboards? It's streaming without JS, just embedding the video file itself into the page using pure HTML and letting the browser handle it... That being said, no website will do that, one because it allows the user to just grab the video and download it, and two because you can't skin the video player itself using HTML/CSS, you need JS for that. >flash wasn't that secure either even before it's end-of-life You're correct.
>>864 >no website will do that, one because it allows the user to just grab the video and download it, and two because you can't skin the video player itself using HTML/CSS, you need JS for that. They could allow a skinned player with a "direct link" link in the description as a backup option. Considering that some of the tabs and links require javascript as well, even though they could be implemented in HTML/Javascript, I doubt the site developers even put much thought into why a player should be javascript-only. It's probably just yet another case of web developers being web developers.
>>865 Once upon a time, there existed media players in the form of NPAPI plugins, allowing pretty much the same things a javascript-based player allows. But due to some strange reasoning, NPAPI must be banned because Flash is junk... Imagine if in 2020 we could've used an open sourve ffmpeg-based plugin to watch videos, instead of relying on megabytes of minimized javascript.
I remember early youtube's flash player freezing and crashing all the damn time, but it wasn't quite as shitty as all the other video sharing websites of the day (remember when they all used embedded WMP/real player/quicktime?), which I think is why it initially won out. Youtube still feels like part of the "new web" to me though. By 2007-2008 it had hit the mainstream in full force, you started hearing about youtube and other websites (not least 4chan) in the news and on TV/radio all the time, and celebrities started attaching themselves to it to be "down with the kidz" and keep themselves relevant. I remember there being a strong "oh shit, the internet as we knew it is dead" sentiment at the time, and lots of discussions everywhere about how "the internet sucks now". And it did suck, but not as much as it would later suck.
>>873 >Youtube still feels like part of the "new web" to me though. I agree, even if a lot of the stuff on there in the early days felt a lot closer to the old Internet in character than it does today. >And it did suck, but not as much as it would later suck. I feel nostalgia even for the early 2010s, although that's really just due to that being the period when I started regularly going on imageboards instead of just reading about them on Encyclopedia Dramatica.
>>874 When it comes to the web I think it's too black-and-white to say that the early 2010s sucked. It did suck in some ways, but due to inertia, I would say that some aspects of the modern web were at their finest at that time. At that point, YouTube was already really big, so you could find a lot of content, but mainstream media hadn't jumped on board yet, so there was less censorship. Videos didn't suffer from buffering any more, picture quality was HD, and e-celebs got money from ads rather than from superchats and VPN shilling. It was like getting the benefits of modernity without too many of the downsides, unless my memory is playing tricks on me. You were even discouraged to use your real name for privacy reasons.
>>864 They could just have an onion site or host it in country where they give a rat's ass about copyrights like Russia. I tried to check Vidlii again, more through this time, it seems to be too niche to have any interesting and unique content...but maybe I didn't search properly, any video recommendations? >>873 >Youtube still feels like part of the "new web" Did you start using the internet in the 90's? I started in early 2000's so for me it's not the case. >>875 >it's too black-and-white to say that the early 2010s sucked It was the early process of the decline, so it wasn't completely bad as you pointed, it still had some merits. >At that point, YouTube was already really big, so you could find a lot of content, but mainstream media hadn't jumped on board yet, so there was less censorship True, it was still good period for youtube, you could also watch complete episodes from shows. Not to mention, independent animation was thriving. >and e-celebs got money from ads rather than from superchats and VPN shilling. It was definitely better, however, probably like many I was disgusted and shocked they start doing video ads like cable TV. >You were even discouraged to use your real name for privacy reasons Can you imagine anyone doing this besides "schizos"? To this very day it's mind-blowing me how it became the complete opposite; "post every bit of real information on yourself", truly scary and frightening.
>>903 The thing with VidLii is that there's a lot of potential but not enough people on there If more people joined up and made videos for it, it'd probably be more popular and be sort of an apolitical alternative to YouTube and avoid the stigma of places like BitChute I'd say doing old-school videos like AMV's and slideshow tribute stuff would go a long way in building VidLii since they don't have the automated copyright bots YouTube has.
>>904 The potential for vidlii to become a youtube or even bitchute alternative is zero, because its model is much different and also normalfag-repellent, thankfully. As a free user: - You cannot monetize your videos. - You cannot upload 16:9 videos. - Any video you upload will be downscaled to 360p & its framerate capped at 30 fps. All in the good spirit of keeping it /retro/ of course... These restrictions can be lifted by paying up and becoming a vidlii partner, which is not a bad thing at all considering the owner is the opposite of woke and allows plenty of shit on the website. >I'd say doing old-school videos like AMV's and slideshow tribute stuff would go a long way in building VidLii since they don't have the automated copyright bots YouTube has. Now that's a good idea. Only dedicated people who want to make videos for the fun of it will do this, plenty of potential for new ytps too.
>>905 I have some music videos saved, maybe I'll upload them.
>>905 Agreed, YouTube's too big to replace but I think VidLii is the place to go if you want to actually have fun again making videos or revive old YouTube stand-bys like AMV's, YTP's, slideshow tributes, or just simple rants and musings with no real political or monetary aims
So what does the end of Flash mean for preserving YouTube videos exactly? I know nothing about this stuff.
>>910 If I'm not mistaken, Flash video files are just regular video files in a different container. Most decent video players should be able to play them. I'm not aware of any issues that it would cause from preservation standpoint.
>>911 Okay, that's good to know. I just heard that old websites that relied on Flash were hard to archive and unfortunately have largely been lost to time.
>>848 this was a comfy channel. Shame that a lot of content was lost. https://www.youtube.com/user/hobbexp/videos
Finally, another Tourettes Guy video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3KacGg9aec
>>918 Wow, I actually remember this guys channel. pretty odd seeing someone who didn't have alot of subscribers posted here, had no idea most of the videos were deleted
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>>848 >>changing the 5 star video valuation system to extra faggy like and dislike Looks like they might remove the dislikes function making it even worse then before.
>>1038 Ha! Gayyyy! I wish that dumpster fire of a site would go the way of MySpace. Sadly, it's the standard among video sharing sites. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
>>1038 i'd love to see youtube go full retard and become disney-channel-level-family-friendly. Normalscum would stay, but anyone who really values their time would go searching for alternatives, therefore populating alternative video-sharing-sites. Youtube fags would be ignorant and happy, and we would have a thriving community of content creators, that could make good videos for people that appreciate them.
>>1038 Dislikes in the comments are already completely useless anyway. It was only a matter of time.
>>1048 What's even the point having the thumbs-down feature for comments at all anymore? To give people the illusion of control?
>>1052 >What's the point of the world's single-largest psychological profiling Big Tech/Gov organization creating psychological profiling knobs and sliders in their sheeple drone interfaces? Anon, some things are too mysterious, and just aren't meant to be understood in this world.
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Oh how the times have changed...
I wish i could actually quit using youtube, but i've been using it since almost the very beginning and i'm addicted. At least there's stuff like NewPipe.
>>1062 Well, at the very least use youtube-dl to retrieve the videos you want to watch instead of through the browser. That will will cut down on their profiling of you to report to their partners & the feds a bit. You can even use it across Tor.
>>1062 >quit using youtube You can delete your account but you can never really stop watching the videos on there, youtube has all the videos of the internet whether we like it or not. The best you can do is leech off of it using a private service like invidio.us that strips away the google cancer. PeerTube is showing a lot of promise and there are already several good instances, it could easily replace youtube but mostly in privacy-conscious circles. I heard it has live streaming now too so that's a huge plus.
>>1064 Yeah, it's going to be hard for anything to replace YouTube for the general public when it's become the de-facto standard.
>>1064 What if someone made a PeerTube instance that filled with a lot of old YouTube videos?
>>1080 It would be a nice tribute website, that's like a more feature-rich VidLii. It would need a lot of server space though, gotta make room for all those YTPs!
>>1081 I feel like the problem with these alternative video services is the lack of familiar content. Maybe if we populate it with something familiar then people will use it.
>850 It's a toss up between Spiderman, Sega CD/32x, and Plumbers Don't Wear Ties.
>>1080 I like this idea.
>>1112 I download any old YouTube videos from 2005 - 2010 so I could make a PeerTube instance out of it. If you have any old videos in mind you can link them here if you want.
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>Youtube app asked me to confirm my age with my id or a credit card when i wanted to watch an age restricted video
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>>1122 Jesus. It's gotten that bad?
>>1122 >Do not post your name, identity, or age on the internet >The largest tech companies in the world ask for your name, identity, and age We really need to break from this.
>>1122 use an invidio instance mate I fucking hate modern jewgle
>>1122 (checked) You're in Europe right? Soon this will be the fate of all users globally, use invidio.us today! >>1125 How prophetic...
>>1129 >You're in Europe right? Soon this will be the fate of all users globally, use invidio.us today! I try to use Invidious but find that it is breaks a lot and isn't a very fluid experience.
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>>1126 >>1129 I usually do but the browser is draining my shitty phone's battery like crazy when I watch videos. But I'm getting tired of the shitty ads too, there are so many of them. I know there are alternative apps without any of that shit but I dont want some chink botnet on my phone.
>>1125 Holy shit. Battle Network was ahead of its time
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>>848 I just wish I could find even half the videos I watched back in 2007~2009. The only ones easy to find (assuming no copyright kikery) are old memes or gameplay footage of popular games at the time (WoW, MapleStory, Runescape, etc) I watched a bunch of videos that called out shitty Youtube policies that were not only ignored, but have gotten worse in the decade since then. I know ChiCity's Youtube Exposed gets reposted a lot, but there were other similar videos from smaller channels that went way more in-depth. (Even in 2009 channels were complaining the front page was mostly the same channels, Youtube pushing hard for Chrome, etc.)
>>1152 Have you tried searching through archive.org? Like the main archive and not the wayback machine?.. They regularly archive youtube videos and have been doing so since the early 2010s from what I remember.
>>1152 There are some YTPs I remember watching, and it sucks knowing that I'll probably never be able to track them down.
>>1156 >>1152 If you do happen to find these please post the link to them. I have been archiving YouTube videos offline and would like to archive any early videos I can.
Guys please check this out. It's a userscript I just installed for youtube and it makes the video player interface look a lot nicer/older. https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/976-youtube-right-side-description It's funny how a small thing like this has actually given me quite a bit of satisfaction. If any of you install it and like it too I'd be happy. I didn't make the script by the way. props to the guy who did.

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