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Computers Thread Fellow Time Traveler 08/21/2020 (Fri) 04:41:24 No.803
Looks like none of the images in the catalog work. Let's get a fresh thread in here, focused on computers! I don't have pictures at the moment to share, but I got lucky today and picked up a nice big beige computer case. I'm assembling a new personal computer from parts that I got deals on, found in the junk heap, or that I was given by friends. So, I guess it's not really a /retro/ computer, but it will be in a /retro/ case, and I plan to get an adapter which will let me use a 3.5" floppy disk drive in there. The adapter plugs into the floppy pins, and presents a USB interface to the motherboard. That adapter is under $10 USD. In fact, I've seen an adapter card that will do the same but for 5.25" floppy disk drives. So, when I have more money, I should be able to have not only a 3.5" FDD, but a 5.25" FDD in my system, running alongside new solid state drives, Blu-Ray disc drives, and of course a few regular hard drives. It should be pretty fun. Again, no pictures yet but I will share with you guys when I can. For now I'll just post one from my collection. What have you guys been up to?
>>1159 It's spook lingo, the CIA was well-known to use certain strong words and phrases to cast certain people as outsiders since the days Kennedy got killed.
Netiquette RFC: https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt >Always say goodbye, or some other farewell, and wait to see a >farewell from the other person before killing the session. This >is especially important when you are communicating with someone >a long way away. Remember that your communication relies on both >bandwidth (the size of the pipe) and latency (the speed of light). That one fag who would only log off the MMO after everyone said goodbye just had good netiquette.
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>>815 I've always liked the chrome cases, they always had that 2000s aesthetic to me. my first case was a full ATX ABS (remember them?) prebuilt from 2003 that weighs like 20 pounds but is solid metal with a huge plastic panel on the side. switched to a new one for practical reasons, having a microATX motherboard in a case like that is a waste.
>>1769 I wish we had PCs the way they thought we're gonna have PCs in the 80s and 90s.
>>1772 I just wish we had an Internet sans Steve Jobs, and the hordes of NPCs he unleashed on the world via the fagphone. Oh well, the past is in the behind. Best play the shit hand we've been dealt.
>>1774 Internet was getting mainstream'd even without Jewbs. Every console was getting online, everything was getting online. It was inevitable.
>>1767 That reminds me of this watch, it looked so cool. Fuck I miss those mini analog tvs so much.
>>1775 Heh, which timeline you on Anon? Cause in this one, that event was the bursting of a inglorious dam that within just a few years turned the entire Internet into the open cesspit of Marxism it is today.
>>1777 Learn to read.
>>1776 >watch with tv There was such a thing?
>>1776 I remember an episode of Columbo (believe it was 'Columbo Goes To College') which had a plot based around these. >>1780 Probably not affordable to most ordinary people.
>>1793 >Probably not affordable to most ordinary people. I'm more baffled that it was technologically possible back then.
>>1794 90s smartwatches are just as impressive
>>1804 Damn, now that looks like true future.
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>>1775 >Internet was getting mainstream'd even without Jewbs. True, but many technologies had not matured to the level where they were accepted by the public. For example WebTV was released in the USA in 1996, but the concept did not actually become successful until much later with the "smart device" generation. Not completely related, but never the less interesting. The founding members of WebTV were all Jews, and one went on to co-found Carrier IQ, which was used on feature phones. It has a very interesting story associated with it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_IQ
>>803 Man the Audrey got robbed. If it had come out only a few years later then they would have taken off.
>>1895 That's a neat one, I've never heard of it before. Having read it came loaded with QNX, that seems noteworthy. Blackberry bought that OS in relatively recent times. It's one of the few microkernal based OS around, maybe the only proprietary commercial one I can think of.
Oh man I can't believe that no one has posted this magnificent thing yet. The TAM, Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh. It was really an exercise in over engineering at the time. Note that big Bose subwolfer. It is not optional because it contains the power supply for the whole computer.
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>>1934 I don't understand the reasoning for that computer, it appears to be the three major components of a laptop (screen, keyboard, and base), rearranged to meet the form factor of a desktop. The aesthetic of the later PowerMac Cube is by far, much better. Although, it was released four years later, which is significant for the high-velocity state of change in the mid to late 90s.
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>>882 I agree, the Outrigger case is a wonderful Mac design, probably the best of the beige ones. The use of translucent and colored plastics with the iMac G3 was a neat change when it happened, but the weird shapes they used, e.g. puck mouse and clam shell laptop, are cringe. The subdued rib texture on some of the surfaces, face plates, is still a very pleasing aesthetic all these years later.
>>974 Mind you to share which chan archiver you use? If selfwritten, are you willing to share source + setup instructions?
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Posted this on zzz/v/ but i'll repost it here, I got my Win2K machine up and running and I am loving it. >AMD Athlon XP 2600+ >MSI KM4M-L >Sapphire ATI Radeon 9800 Pro >80GB WD Caviar HDD >40GB WD Caviar HDD >2x512MB DDR >Creative Audigy SoundBlaster 2 >WinFAST TV 2000 XP Tuner Vidya includes: >Rise of Nations >SimCity 4 >Far Cry >Rollercoaster Tycoon 2 >Deus Ex: Invisible War >Clue >Scrabble >Diablo >Diablo II + Lords of Destruction and a bunch of others that I'm forgetting. Either way it's running much smoother now that I've applied new thermal paste to the CPU and GPU (although I still named it Housefire). Also made sure to install all the extras that came on the CDs like XFire and GameSpy.
>>2021 Nice. How well does Rise of Nations run? I was playing it on a computer running XP at the time but don't remember the system specs.
>>2021 >zzz ewe! that site is fucking lame did you know its run by a 40 year old postal worker
>>2022 I haven't gotten to it yet, but I assume it would run fine. Everything I've thrown at the Radeon has held up so far.
>>2025 >did you know its run by a 40 year old postal worker What's wrong with that?
>>2025 >did you know its run by a 40 year old postal worker Could be way worse, especially in the imageboard circles where it has been bad often. The problem are the mods and the users.
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>>2025 >did you know its run by a 40 year old postal worker so?
>>2027 >>2030 >postal worker I take it you've never interacted with one
>>815 Chrome was okay as long as it was brushed and not glossy. The case should be nondescript and not reflect light everywhere. Though reflecting light is still better than shining it everywhere like that RGB stuff of today.
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Have you ever performed cablegami?
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I was curious and looked up "what was the fastest 8086 clone?" I found this blog post: http://www.z80.eu/blog/index.php?entry=entry190310-150623 Apparently it was the 8086 in this NEC machine.
>>2069 I wish I had seen this 25 years ago.
>>2047 Black and matte silver have been mainstream since the mid 00s. Even new computers are black, silver, white or some combination of those shades. The colour tinted metallic ones are pretty unique, like the Sony Vaio, or HP used smokey translucent plastics. You do not normally see that anymore on desktops, but maybe on some laptops.
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>>2021 Hell yeah! Excellent choice with Win2k and an Athlon. They make for fantastic retro development workstations and gaming machines. I just cycled from an OC'd Pentium MMX @ 300MHz to a K6-III 450 to an underclocked tbird at 600MHz before discovering that sandisk CF cards don't work well with udma on older boards. >although I still named it Housefire Athlons run hot regardless of your cooling. Since that rig is overkill for most of your games, you might want to try underclocking/undervolting the CPU a bit. The tbird I'm using is rated at 1200MHz@1.75v, but it runs over 20C cooler at 600/1.55v.
>>878 /retro/ /tech/fag reporting in. >>882 >Oh fuck, I also wanna get into it. Here are some useful resources if you're still interested: http://textfiles.com/programming/dostech.pro ^ comprehensive set of interrupt lists, memory maps, and technical documentation for DOS and the PC. http://textfiles.com/programming/CARDS/8088 ^ quick instruction set reference card. Useful for some operations, though complex instructions like mul, div, stos/cmps/movs/lods, etc. aren't covered very well. http://textfiles.com/programming/ibmbios.txt ^ covers IBM BIOS interrupt handlers. http://textfiles.com/programming/ports.lst ^ common I/O ports and addresses. Use unless contradicted by dostech.pro http://bitsavers.org/components/intel/8086/9800722-03_The_8086_Family_Users_Manual_Oct79.pdf ^ what it says on the tin. https://www.plantation-productions.com/Webster/www.artofasm.com/DOS/AoADosIndex.html ^ online archive of the Art of Assembly Language Programming. You can find PDFs of the book as well. >>888 If you don't want to pirate, then jwasm is available on freedos. It's masm/tasm compatible and includes newer masm features like high level conditional macros and invoke statements. You can also use macro packages like nasmx, though masm compatible assembler is more or less the gold standard for IBM compatibles. It might be helpful to make a retro development thread. Thoughts?
>>2202 >It might be helpful to make a retro development thread. Thoughts? Sure, but I probably won't be of much use because all the programming I do is in C and for the modern unices. BTW, I ended up dropping Peter Norton's book. It feels like he gave up in the last few chapters: they're a lot of copypasting with little to no explanation. The parts before that were some of the best programming lessons I've had though.
>>2204 >It feels like he gave up in the last few chapters: they're a lot of copypasting with little to no explanation. That's a shame! Was there anything he missed or was it to the point where the topics didn't really need to be included anymore? >all the programming I do is in C and for the modern unices For the most part, same here, buuuut the portability that C offers isn't exclusive to the present or future. I recently wrote a really shitty terminal snake game (which was itself sort of a port of a DOS assembly implementation) on a PPC mac running tiger. It was then possible to get it running on my modern linux box with IIRC two or three small changes that didn't break back-portability to the mac. More complex graphical applications would definitely be harder, but there are widget libraries like XForms that have been stable for decades now.
Tried to retro-theme. I'm happy with it.
>>2208 >That's a shame! Was there anything he missed or was it to the point where the topics didn't really need to be included anymore? The interface was ready and the program was reading from a hardcoded disk sector, what was left were the menus to let the user pick which sector to read and the screen editor for editing those sectors before writing them back.
>>2213 Oh god, UI is always a bitch when you can't just fall back on some pretty defaults and widget libraries. >>2209 Looking good! The title bar text is fantastic.
>>2031 kek, the ones at my local office are literally like Newman. they're all extremely disgruntled and do a terrible job. The other day I went in around 11am and I hear the fat bastard behind the counter mumbling about how he wishes the day would be over already, before lunch even started. And a couple weeks ago this postal worker came blaring some typical junk on a speaker he was carrying (take a guess what this guy looked like), so I reported it to the USPS and the next time I saw him, he was wearing earbuds.
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>>878 Gotta love Peter "poosy deestroyer" Norton
>>2254 Imagine the cost of the computer they're using. It feels strange to see 3D CGI when the average computer from that time barely had 2D and mainly used text mode for everything.
I was searching for a clear trackball mouse and found a good thread. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/pre-and-post-imac-g3-uses-of-translucent-plastics.2308014/
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>Alpha Architecture, lecture by Richard L. Sites and Dirk Meyer https://invidious.namazso.eu/watch?v=klg1FtHADso Excellent lecture. Makes a lot of correct predictions of the future and explains some good goddamn design.

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