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Retro /tech/ Fellow Time Traveler 09/21/2019 (Sat) 15:00:45 No.108
Retro /tech/.

PDAs, pagers, old mobile phones, mp3 players. I miss them. They were so less intrusive to privacy.

It sounds really weird, but I'd love it if I could somehow still have a pager as opposed to a cell phone.
>>762 >whole new meaning to the word "unusable". It makes me want to tear my hair out. I've installed it in a VM so I can mess around with it and see if I can change it enough to a point where I'm OK using it, but I haven't gotten there at all. >The only real differences from what I've seen anyway are the stability of the base system, the packaging format, the completeness and update frequency of repos, and of course community support. Seems like it. One thing that irked me with a standard Debian install was that "users are not in the sudoers file" crap, when every guide online tells you to sudo this and that. When the most basic thing doesn't work and you have to go start editing obscure files on the system as a new user it's frustrating. If I installed Debian again, I would have to go through the same process because I forgot how I did it to begin with. And I guess Ubuntu doesn't do it that way. Minor stuff like that. >Did you do any tweaks aside from basic theming and such? No, not really. I just installed the Chicago95 theme by hand, unzipping things where they need to go and stuff like that. Pretty basic stuff. There are some more advanced things I want to do but it's not my main system and it works fine so far, so I haven't. The reason I'm using XFCE instead of something more obscure like maybe FVWM95 is because if I use something that isn't mainstream supported I'll run into some issue and never be able to fix it. So for now, I'm sticking to more or less simple stuff. >Qvwm I will check this out, though. I have compiled stuff before so I should be able to do it.
>>763 >One thing that irked me with a standard Debian install was that "users are not in the sudoers file" crap Strange, because Ubuntu by default adds users to the sudo group, or at least the first user created which is a no brainer. Did you not get asked during setup which groups you want your user to belong to? Anyway, I did a quick search and found that you don't need to edit files manually to change groups, all you need are a few commands (on Ubuntu which should also be true for Debian also)... To view all groups on the system >getent group To view the groups you are in >groups To add yourself to a group >usermod -a -G groupname username If the last command doesn't work replace the -a -G with -g
>>694 I actually bought myself a whole collection of grooveboxes this year (MP7, MC505, MC307, MPC500, DR202, KO1, EM1, SP606, SP808, RM1X, SB246, QY100), and it's really taught me how expensive and how much of a hassle hardware really is in comparison to DAWs and trackers. And to add, I've since started using FLStudio 3.55 which has re-shifted my opinion on software trackers as it's a much more user friendly and intuitive software to use and to learn as a beginner in comparison to the more modern versions. The thing i got out of hardware; I learned a lot about how computers work and got introduced to a lot of older tech like SCSI, RS232, Zip Drives, Midi, MO Disks etc. Also became a lot more partial to retro computers and messing around with programming in general than i would've been before i started playing with electronic music gear. You need to learn about maintaining the gear and replace/fix parts when buttons stick or encoders jump. You also learn a whole lot about the cultural context behind popular movements, take the 808, 303, 909, Juno, 101, JP8000, MPC, EMU and so on.. these instruments were partially the reason as to why certain movements and genres came to be and it's a very odd feeling to know that specific approaches and techniques applied to these instruments created entire genres and movements and social phenomenons that carry on to this day. In retrospect, being the victim of gas and gearlust, i feel like the tendancy to fetishize tone and character will only grow stronger moving forwards amongst the audio community, especially as it kind of becomes more mainstream and accessible to the public. I see more serious and dedicated musicians and pros begin buying cheap gear to post photos of them playing it on instagram, as everybody likes looking at racks and desks of gear.
>>801 >The thing i got out of hardware; I learned a lot about how computers work and got introduced to a lot of older tech like SCSI, RS232, Zip Drives, Midi, MO Disks etc. Also became a lot more partial to retro computers and messing around with programming in general than i would've been before i started playing with electronic music gear. You need to learn about maintaining the gear and replace/fix parts when buttons stick or encoders jump. I actually ended up buying an old sampler that had the floppy drive replaced with an SD card reader. It might not be much of a learning experience, but I'm just glad I haven't needed to mess around with floppy disks. Having to convert sound files over to the right format is still enough of a hassle that I'm considering selling it and using a Microgranny though. Those old samplers sound great, but they're a pain to use (mine also has complex envelopes instead of simple ADSR ones that makes it a time-consuming task to get sounds out of it quickly unless you want invest some time into learning the interface). I wish someone would make a modern, user-friendly piece of hardware with the sound of the '80s samplers. As far as maintenance goes, that's one of the things I hate about hardware. I bought a Matrix-1000, and it seems to have gone out of tune on me. I assumed it would be pretty reliable given the DCOs, but apparently that's not the case. I'm considering just buying a Prophet Rev2 and seeing if I can get old-school sounds out of it with Voice Component Modeling, but that's not really my ideal synth. >In retrospect, being the victim of gas and gearlust, i feel like the tendancy to fetishize tone and character will only grow stronger moving forwards amongst the audio community, especially as it kind of becomes more mainstream and accessible to the public. I see more serious and dedicated musicians and pros begin buying cheap gear to post photos of them playing it on instagram, as everybody likes looking at racks and desks of gear. Yeah, especially seeing as how Behringer has been remaking older synths and releasing them at such affordable prices. I'm glad to see the barrier to owning vintage-sounding synthesizers being lowered, gear snobs be damned. Overall, it's been the cheapest synthesizers I've bought that I've been the most happy with.
>>729 Another belated update. I settled on Void as my daily distro with XFCE as the desktop environment, and haven't booted into W10 in months... I understand the system directory structure a lot better now (but not perfectly) and realize that it makes sense from a developmental perspective. What doesn't make sense is how almost every character in existence is allowed in file names, yet a lot of programs can't handle mere spaces or commas, thanks curl without fiddling. If there's one thing Windows did right it's adding spaces in all system folders by default (e.g. "Documents and Settings", "Program Files") so that developers are forced to handle them. Wine's installation was painless unlike what I experienced in Ubuntu, however it's not as great as journos and jewtubers want you to believe. A lot of (older) games will work out of the box, sure, but try installing DirectX or its alternative DXVK and you get all kinds of surprises. DX9 and sometimes DX10 games are the least problematic however DX11 and beyond will simply not run, at least in my own personal experience... This is not a problem for me because I mostly play retro shit anyway but I wouldn't seriously recommend Wine to anyone. Lutris was completely useless by the way it even rhymes! Since my distro's repositories don't have everything, I naturally had to compile several programs myself. This was a learning experience as I got to know the different "build systems" and how to use them even when no compilation instructions are provided. I also got to see what a well maintained project looks like, and what a half-assed project looks like. From my observations C code was the least problematic to compile, while C++ code almost always needs tinkering in order to compile. For example I tried compiling a C program from 1994 and it compiled flawlessly, not a single error, while a C++ program from 1998 (last updated in 2014) absolutely refused to compile, even despite my efforts to debug it. However it's worth noting that if you reach out to the developer, in most cases he will reply and fix any bugs in his code so you can compile it.
>>938 I used Void a while ago, and it's pretty ok if it suits your purpose, but there are some instances where it really sucks: 1. If your boot partition is "too small", your machine will not boot anymore after a while. This is because when you update your kernel, the old kernel does not get removed, so if you're low on space, the update procedure may fail, and it does not handle write errors properly, so you end up with a kernel image that's only partially written to the hard drive. This can be fixed by manually booting one of the older kernels, then removing the unneeded kernels, but it's just a hassle that shouldn't exist, and it makes Void Linux something I'd never recommend for a person who's not already good with debugging computer problems. 2. If you do cross-compiling with GCC, your compiler may stop working when GCC is updated, because Void Linux often updates the regular GCC without updating the cross-compiler packages at the same time. This is a problem because both versions seem to share some files together, but the files don't seem to be compatible across versions. The worst part is that it sometimes takes months for the cross-compile packages to be updated. The issue number two is a good example why I would regard Linux as a software-as-a-service model, as it is heavily dependent on the package maintainers. Windows has always been much better at backwards-compatibility and installing different versions of programs.
>>939 Didn't know any of that, thanks for the info. Personally I never ran into problem #1 because I mostly run the OS live, so whenever I need to update the system -which is rarely- I just generate a new disk image and flash it. But that's not a solution of course... Did you communicate these issues with the devs on the IRC? It should be trivial to implement an auto-remover for old kernels and more organized compiler updates. >as it is heavily dependent on the package maintainers True. Thankfully that dependence is slowly going away thanks to new "portable app" technologies like AppImages, Flatpaks and, sigh, Snaps. I've personally benefited greatly from the first, since nowadays a fair number of package devs just offer them on their website as standalone files next to EXEs and DMGs. Who would have thought that day would come? Granted I haven't heard of a compiler in AppImage form, but I reckon it's possible. You can always compile your own programs, which will make way for eventually contributing those missing packages yourself and/or creating a plethora of AppImage versions. >Windows has always been much better at backwards-compatibility Yes, one of the main reasons why I still like Windows, but now that I have the Linux autist's perspective I can clearly see it as a liability. Ancient code is never cleaned nor refactored, only built upon with hacky workarounds, which culminated over the years into an OS that is not only bloated but also very dysfunctional. Case in point being W10 which made me move to Linux in the first place... I don't believe you can have true backwards compatibility while retaining the freedom to improve your code, unless you go the portable app route. By the way what distro(s) do you use and would recommend? inb4 using arch btw
>>940 >Did you communicate these issues with the devs on the IRC? It's been a while so I don't remember for certain, but I think the compiler issue is quite well known. I wouldn't mind reporting bugs to open source projects, but I prefer to use tor and avoid javascript. Open source projects, on the other hand, tend to use freenode, which has banned tor, and github, which requires javascript. >Ancient code is never cleaned nor refactored, only built upon with hacky workarounds, which culminated over the years into an OS that is not only bloated but also very dysfunctional. If you take a look at the leaked source code of DirectX, I'd say that code base looks pretty decent to me. It actually has comments, unlike most FOSS projects. FOSS advocates like to talk about the benefits of open source, but that's just marketing speech. What really matters is the quality of the code. >Case in point being W10 which made me move to Linux in the first place Windows 10 is a clusterfuck I'd never want to touch. It's really a shame because Windows used to be quite comfy in the past. My father still uses Windows XP on his old computer, and it always amazes me just how good and snappy it feels. And XP was already a small downgrade UI-wise from previous versions. >I don't believe you can have true backwards compatibility while retaining the freedom to improve your code I don't understand what you're trying to say. If you mean that a software update will necessarily break backwards compatibility, then that's just a case of a poorly designed software interface. >By the way what distro(s) do you use and would recommend? I used Arch a long time ago, but I got tired of it breaking too easily. More recently, I've tried Void, Devuan, and MX Linux, but all of them have their issues. MX Linux and Devuan are Debian-based, so they have old packages. It's really annoying because I just end up compiling a lot of software from source as a result. I'm considering giving Alpine Linux a shot. Some people such as Luke Smith seem to like Artix Linux, but since it's based on Arch Linux, I'm a bit wary of going down that path again.
>>948 >but I prefer to use tor and avoid javascript Okay. I asked about your 2 issues on IRC and was told that the compiler issue is not true, however the kernel one is. New kernels can potentially break something so they keep the old ones as backup... I did suggest they automatically remove the really old ones though, so we'll see if they'll do anything about it. I do recall using GitHub once not too long ago without JS and it worked fine, although I couldn't properly browse the code tree. If you're just reporting an issue then you should have no problems using GH with JS disabled. >What really matters is the quality of the code. Agreed. >I don't understand what you're trying to say. Let's say you found a vulnerability in the kernel, and fixing it will break some programs, or at least require that they be recompiled... Would you fix the vulnerability? Or would you "work around it" adding unnecessary bloat and potentially many other vulnerabilities, so the programs keep running? Linux did the former, while Windows did the latter. The point is, you can either choose to improve code and remove bad parts of it, or choose backwards compatibility and forever keep said bad parts, seldom both. >Alpine Linux It's near useless as a desktop OS, see https://archive.today/mlMmK So you're currently using Devuan/MX? I tried Devuan once and it was pretty good, but I was already on Void by that time so I just didn't bother giving it a proper trial. >I just end up compiling a lot of software from source as a result I think it's practically impossible to use any Linux distro without having to compile something at some point, unless you have an AUR-like repo but we all know how that's gonna end up. Just embrace compiling from source and use it as a learning experience. >Luke Smith No.
>>949 >I asked about your 2 issues on IRC and was told that the compiler issue is not true I did some searching and I think this was the issue: https://old.reddit.com/r/voidlinux/comments/awltx2/gcc_cannot_compile_32bit_after_update/ If you search in that subreddit, you will find other threads pointing out similar problems. The solution to that problem is simple: the maintainers should always update gcc-multilib at the same time, as other packages are updated. If they have started doing that, then that's great. >Let's say you found a vulnerability in the kernel, and fixing it will break some programs I would imagine that most vulnerabilities are simple buffer overflows and such things, so fixing them shouldn't require interface changes. If interface-changing fixes need to be made in the OS, then breaking compatibility is fine, but there should be an option to enable a compatibility setting manually for certain programs. I suppose it's possible that sometimes even that cannot be done, but I'd imagine such cases to be rare. >So you're currently using Devuan/MX? I just realized I'm actually using MX 18 instead of the newer MX 19. Apparently MX Linux does not support upgrading the distribution to a newer version when its underlying debian base gets upgraded. As a result, I'm thinking of going back to Devuan some time in the future. This is also why I mentioned in my previous post about having to compile a lot of software. I'm still running the oldstable debian, so the packages in the package manager are really old.
What do you guys think about fax machines? I still own one, the thing is useful to this day and very resident
>>958 Do people still use them much outside of Japan?
>>959 What's with Japanese people and /retro/ tech? I remember hearing about "dumb"/flip phones being still relatively popular there.
>>960 Three factors 1) One of the largest elderly population on the planet, meaning you get futuristic bullet trains operated by people who still use fax machines for office work 2) A traditionalist mentality, in Japan you want to avoid radical change as much as possible and generally speaking the average Japanese reactionary is more conservative than the average Western right winger, they take great pride in what they've created so far since most of the retro tech stuff came from there anyhow 3) Conveniency, flip phones are still popular because they had really good plans and coverage, while we have a measly 26 alphabet letters they have a buttload, you don't need to suck on China and North Korea's titties to get the items necessary to build a flip phone compared to a smartphone and they're also sturdier and cheaper than a smartphone.
>>961 Makes sense... Thanks anon.
>>961 >2) A traditionalist mentality, in Japan you want to avoid radical change as much as possible That's what I thought.
>>958 I'll probably get one when I move out and into my own place and use it whenever it's convenient.
I feel like it would be fun to program games for old versions of Windows. I've always been a huge weeb, I love all the old versions of Windows I grew up with, and it would be much easier than say, DOS homebrew, so perhaps I'll write a shitty Windows 2000/XP-era VN. I could even design a case for it, the CD or DVD, and have an old fashioned installer that opens a full screen background image like pre-XP installshield wizards used to do. It'd probably be shit though. I'm no writer. >>608 Things are getting to the point where I'm considering going offline for the most part and just do hobbyist shit like use the computer for productivity and playing old Japanese computer games in a virtual machine or emulator. I'll probably have a separate computer just for going online and only power it on when necessary. But that would require me to give up on shitposting, and you fags are like my family. >>614 >In fact it's so bad, I'm seriously considering Linux. Kek. I was so refreshed on Linux Mint but after 5 or so years of Mint and light use of other distros I'm sick of the bullshit and am considering going back to Windows, and 10 at that since I also want to run modern Windows software because faggots keep coding their open source shit for Windows 10 and it never runs properly. I really want Haiku to get to surpass Linux soon and just completely destroy it in the desktop operating system space for non-autists. The diehard fags can have their obscure server operating systems running X or Wayland and deal with outdated gtk themes and no thumbnails in their file pickers, I'll take the OS that actually is meant to be a complete work rather than a bunch of shit taped together haphazardly. I can deal with no wine as long as I can eventually dual boot or run Windows in a VM. >>623 >I even replaced all the system sounds with the ones from 7, because 10's ones all sound the damn same to me and I couldn't tell what information they were supposed to be conveying. Now that sounds useful. They really do all sound the same, I'm always wondering what it's telling me when I hear a 10 machine making noises. I should do that too. Did you do it manually or do all the sounds have the same filenames and are stored in a single folder for easy overwriting? >>645 >yes, exactly. I'm not a programming type. if I were then linux would be better for me. I program occasionally, that's really not the issue. It absolutely is the neckbeard's particular brand of autism. It's like an unwillingness to accommodate others disguised as the opposite. "You can do anything, you have absolute freedom," they say as they write their own software because they hate every other piece of software out there already. But then they rip shit out of the software they write, tell you it's not a bug and they won't reconsider not axing the feature you relied on, then start harassing you if you manage to get off your ass and fork their software like what their license said you could do. On top of that, as their shitty software gets worse and worse, you end up having to maintain this forked software all on your own. This model across almost the entire operating system and every piece of software running on top of it is fucking unsustainable. There aren't enough programmers in the fucking world to maintain that much FOSS software. They effectively end up forcing their shit on others moreso than old Windows versions and even modern Windows freeware. From the perspective of a user who has work to do, this is madness. It doesn't matter how good of a programmer you are. Terry accomplished enough just writing TempleOS and the software for it. For a daily driver modern operating system and all the software you might need, it's too much work. With freedom comes a cost. Having a thousand competing standards slows productivity. A dictator, benevolent or not, setting a standard and everyone else adhering to it drives productivity. There are two main reasons why a Linux distro might break all the time or not work for some reason: driver issues, something GNU/Linux and other FOSS OS fags have no real control over (it's not their fault that hardware is proprietary); and then there is the fact that there is simply too many moving parts and they aren't and never will be interchangeable. This causes a cascade of problems when any one part fails.
>>1032 >Things are getting to the point where I'm considering going offline for the most part and just do hobbyist shit like use the computer for productivity and playing old Japanese computer games in a virtual machine or emulator. I'll probably have a separate computer just for going online and only power it on when necessary. But that would require me to give up on shitposting, and you fags are like my family. I find myself in a similar position. >Kek. I was so refreshed on Linux Mint but after 5 or so years of Mint and light use of other distros I'm sick of the bullshit and am considering going back to Windows, and 10 at that since I also want to run modern Windows software because faggots keep coding their open source shit for Windows 10 and it never runs properly. I really want Haiku to get to surpass Linux soon and just completely destroy it in the desktop operating system space for non-autists. The diehard fags can have their obscure server operating systems running X or Wayland and deal with outdated gtk themes and no thumbnails in their file pickers, I'll take the OS that actually is meant to be a complete work rather than a bunch of shit taped together haphazardly. I can deal with no wine as long as I can eventually dual boot or run Windows in a VM. Yeah, I tried running Mint as my main OS for a short period but gave up on it and went to Windows 10. That was what I was trying to avoid in the first place. Linux is neat in some ways, but I don't understand how people can replace Windows with it unless they don't really do much with their computers.
I realize that /retro/ is probably inescapably 'attached' to the Micro$tasi Wangblows Gulag & maybe they even think highly of The Evil Man, Bill Gates is this even possible heh? but having grown up with Windows, and having been at least 5 years now on Linux I can definitely say it was the right choice and I will never go back. For those of you who are just average Anons, these paid shills & glownigger's assertions aside here I'd just say "Free your mind, your ass will follow". Abandon NSA 10 today guys.
Even Windows 98 was comfy. (Was it comfy at the time, or only now?) Now the comfy factor has moved to FOSS. I guess being 5 years behind finally paid off ;-)
>>1034 >but having grown up with Windows, and having been at least 5 years now on Linux I can definitely say it was the right choice and I will never go back. No doubt. I may move elsewhere but never back. >>1032 >>1033 >I'm sick of the bullshit and am considering going back to Windows, and 10 at that since I also want to run modern Windows software because faggots keep coding their open source shit for Windows 10 and it never runs properly. >For a daily driver modern operating system and all the software you might need, it's too much work. What software and which bullshit? I've been on Mint for a year now and had almost no issues (the only one I can remember being trying to compile a VS project without VS). I only do browsing, VMs, videos+editing, image editing, high-level programming, and casual gaming . No forked software or ricing. >I really want Haiku to get to surpass Linux soon and just completely destroy it in the desktop operating system space for non-autists. I've never used Haiku, but I agree. Linux is a hacker kernel that has been hacked into having a decent normalfag user experience. I wish at least BSD but better yet something purpose-made like Haiku took its place. Like you say, Linux is duct-taped but I don't even notice to be honest. >no thumbnails in their file pickers Mine are fine. My issue is no shortcut option for making symlinks via GUI. I wonder if ReactOS is going anywhere, or if it's too eternally outdated to ever replace Windows 10 as a daily driver. I doubt Windows 10 will ever be replaced, only updated. oh ffs why did they port it to XBOX, just make it work dammit.
>>1034 >Abandon NSA 10 today guys. Already tried it, and it didn't work for me. >>1037 >I wonder if ReactOS is going anywhere, or if it's too eternally outdated to ever replace Windows 10 as a daily driver. I doubt Windows 10 will ever be replaced, only updated. If they got to a 64-bit Windows XP level, that might be enough for me to make the switch. Sadly, it looks like that's not going to happen anytime soon.
>>1032 >perhaps I'll write a shitty Windows 2000/XP-era VN. I could even design a case for it, the CD or DVD, and have an old fashioned installer that opens a full screen background image like pre-XP installshield wizards used to do. It'd probably be shit though. I'm no writer. I have a feeling you watched Welcome to the NHK recently lol
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>>1037 Mainly console hacking and romhacking software is my problem. There are closed source tools in that scene too which makes things even more inconvenient. I have all my bases covered on Linux for the most part when it comes to work and my more normalfag hobbies (although I too would like to take up music). Of course devs always shit things up at some point and it's a pain in the ass keeping old software running particularly when shitty libraries decide to break compatibility. I think flatpak, despite its flaws, will help in that regard. But it won't fix the fact that there only appears to be one DE that won't chase shitty trends and reinvent the wheel, and that's xfce. But it uses gtk which is a problem. >no thumbnails in their file pickers To be fair, this is only in gtk-epic programs and there have been hacks to substitute the Qt file picker. I believe you can read about them on Archwiki, but last I checked they don't work anymore. I'm guessing the problem is once again gtk updates making unnecessary changes to shit and to hell with everyone else. There's an old but good writeup on GNOME and gtk bullshit here: https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/gnome-et-al-rotting-in-threes/ Maybe there's an updated solution now. It doesn't often bother me anymore since I just drag&drop from the file manager and only rarely does software not support that. And don't get me wrong, I still love Linux for servers and other applications like specialty operating systems. I don't blame it for not being a perfect desktop OS, I'm more just frustrated that all desktop OS have their share of problems and we have to pick our poison. >>1043 Kek, I haven't watched it yet. The idea mostly goes back to my pre-existing interest in writing homebrew for consoles I grew up with and how I liked VNs ever since /a/ and /jp/ introduced me to them around a decade ago. Recently I've been downloading more to hoard old releases as they slowly get replaced by modern-Windows-only rereleases. I've had to do research on the games that have English patches or official English releases, and having to see normalfags complaining about outdated engines, graphics, aspect ratios, or screen resolutions really got to me. I had wanted to write a VN before, but scrapped my ideas each time. Now I'm just considering a change in software requirements for when I do have a story I'm satisfied with.
>>1032 >I feel like it would be fun to program games for old versions of Windows. I mean sure, but what's the point? Hopefully your program works on newer versions too or else you'll lock out so many users. >But then they rip shit out of the software they write, tell you it's not a bug and they won't reconsider not axing the feature you relied on I could say the same for a lot of the commercial software I use/used in my life, except it could never be forked and once the old version that I liked stopped working it was game over. Not defending shitty FOSS projects of course but their public nature is the one redeeming quality they have over other software. >>1033 >Linux is neat in some ways, but I don't understand how people can replace Windows with it unless they don't really do much with their computers. Most tasks you can think of can be accomplished on linux with open source programs, here are some of my tasks: <browsing the web <streaming various media (local/online) <authoring documents/presentations <programming <emulating game consoles <playing native games <manipulating images <editing videos <modelling in 3D <P2P and piracy You can expand the list with Wine but it's very hit or miss and quite frankly a huge pain in the ass. >>1035 Windows 9x was comfy even back in the day, but it was pretty unstable. The comfiest Windows by far is Windows 2000; it had the 9x aesthetics with the stability of the "newer" Windows. Sadly overshadowed by XP. >>1037 >I wonder if ReactOS is going anywhere It's not, because it severely lacks drivers and doesn't even boot on most machines nowadays. Darn shame if you ask me.
>>1057 >Most tasks you can think of can be accomplished on linux with open source programs, here are some of my tasks: It feels to me like it does most of those things a lot worse than Windows though. There are exceptions, like when the same exact software is available for both (I like GIMP and Openshot when I'm not having glitches with it), but a lot of the native Linux software doesn't compare to what's out there for Windows to me. Maybe most people just don't have the highly specific requirements that I do.
>>1069 >It feels to me like it does most of those things a lot worse than Windows though You're not wrong. FOSS programs on average have less features than their commercial counterparts, usually due to less funding and development time... For "general use" though they're aight. >Openshot Buggy on both Windows and Linux. Ditch it and try Shotcut, you won't regret it.
>>1057 >You're not wrong. FOSS programs on average have less features than their commercial counterparts, usually due to less funding and development time... For "general use" though they're aight. Yeah, oftentimes they're good enough for people who aren't already accustomed to certain features. >Buggy on both Windows and Linux. Ditch it and try Shotcut, you won't regret it. Is it quick to pick up and learn? What I like about Openshot is how straightforward it is. When it's not glitching out or crashing, that is.
>>1071 >Is it quick to pick up and learn? Yup. The interface is very intuitive and allows you to start working immediately, even if you're inexperienced in video editing. I hear the documentation is pretty good, haven't consulted it much I'm afraid, but there was really no need to in my usage. You can easily find video tutorials on youtube too. Do you edit videos often?
>>1074 >Do you edit videos often? It's not an everyday thing for me. I've made a few OC .webms in the past, for example, and with hardly any prior experience.
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I was just thinking about how Nokia completely disappeared after dominating the mobile phone market for like a decade. I'm sure iphones and the Windows Mobile partnership are responsible for that. I haven't seen anyone with a Nokia phone since like 2014 but apparently they are still around, good for them I guess but I wish they were still popular.
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>>629 You can try replicating the feel of retro Unix by using NsCDE for instance which tries to replicate the original CDE from the 90s. There's also Maxx Interactive which seeks to replicate the SGI Iris experience. I'm using it on my gaming rig with a CRT and it sure feels like being thrown back a decade playan old vidya and using a desktop that looks like straight from the 90s! Lovin that industrialist brutalist in your face look of those interfaces. It's the exact opposite of what everyone is doing with those boring abstract flat and transparent UI design.
>>2442 They somehow got aquired by HBL or something. Don't know the details, but you can easily buy Nokia branded smartphones over here in western europe though they won't differ much from all the other chink shit that's being thrown onto the market. Just regular android smartphones, with the catch that they don't give you the option to unlock the bootloader, hence being dependent on goolag spyware and whatever shit software the phone comes with. It's as useful as a brick for me, if I can't even decide what software to put on it.

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