Eh, I sort of agree, at least on the critique of 8chan. I would just try to let go of forums since they're generally a waste of time anyway. I think one of the many issues with them is people end up spending more time on the forum than, as once commonly said of /v/ for instance, actually playing video games
. If I want to discuss a particular piece, I'll go to a forum and try to ignore the shit-eaters. Ideally, people don't give a shit if one, for instance, uses a quick search to find something on YouTube to illustrate his point. Unfortunately, nowadays and for some time, one has to be wary of what the group thinks (democracy is shit and this was a huge problem with a lot of newer BOs, that is, they let the plebs decide things)
of even little details less the discussion get derailed in ">using YouTube" spam (with a bit of a bandwagon domino effect at times) (besides humility, this is why we're all faggots; in the case of OPs, this is why OP is always a faggot no matter what, so you can just ignore the little details and try to stay on topic, or even critique the post if it's bad enough along with discussion, or ignore the post completely)
, similar occurrences of which have happened quite a few times, and are very annoying. Not to mention, this indirectly encourages groupthink. One becomes so worried about derailing a thread, or getting banned for posting something that the userbase/staff didn't like (whether there is a reasoning to it or not, often there isn't or at least that the original reasoning has been lost to time; "monkey see, monkey do"; worst still is when arguments against aspects of a board's conventionality are ignored and shamed (worst still is when minor slip-ups somehow mean the entire argument is wrong, which is a fallacy (don't remember the name of it, but this works too in other cases: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulverism)) without proper argumentation outside of the occasional usage of common points, because they don't know any better, because "monkey see, monkey do", and monkeys don't think)
, that he begins to change himself. Obviously, this can be a good thing, but this can also hamper discussion; it's good culture-wise, but it's not good discussion-wise, and unfortunately these things overlap, and I'd rather have good discussion than a circlejerk. Anyway.
Since the staff on 4chan do not give a single shit, even the retards you find here are going to be more tolerable, since you won't get as many shitposts, and neither in as exceptionally poor quality. Though, that's with the couple I've been to since 8chan went down, anyway. And, as you say, there's a larger pool on 4chan, so one is bound to find better posters that he wouldn't here. Sometime in the past month, /jp/ at night wasn't so bad. Guess it depends on the clock, the day, and the month. Generally, best bet is when students are asleep or at school, I think, otherwise it's up to luck.