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Photography Digital Resources Photog 05/20/2020 (Wed) 11:48:55 No.36
For the betterment of our users we shall proclaim a small library of resources like PDFs and videos. This is the place to share personal ways, known names, discovered channels, own documents and particular files that can enhance our abilities in this hobby. But due to concerns regarding the hosting size made clear to me by our admin we should upload them externally via media share sites or, in the case of videos, refer to a site or quick way to get them. Pretty simple activity but i do recommend using trusted filehosts, obscuring names, using passwords and other assorted privacy measures to avoid bots or crawlers from taking content down. I mean we are not sharing anything illegal and we sure are not pirating anything either but it's best to be reserved :^) From my part i just finished organizing and uploading a bunch of stuff you guys might find helpful. I will make a post for each theme and probably recommend one or two documents from that batch, i haven't read much other than the stuff i bought but i will try to make the best bet from what i've gathered in the many previews i did, otherwise you can check the list and see what you fancy as there's probably the high chance i might've missed a golden standard or just very good document. I still have many files left in reserve and will post the topic names if anyone is curious or needs some, honestly those didn't get up because i got tired and rushed to gather essentials.
Edited last time by Lensman on 05/22/2020 (Fri) 03:01:27.
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Those are tough reads, they are very nutritious but honestly the more visual the better, that's what this Tips area is for. Here's three sections in a go, they are easily digestible but some might want you to know a couple of things. I would go for 100 Things Every Artists Should Know, most of these can be eaten in a day so that's just a guess. https://zerobin.net/?c0e8bddc80d8d05c#2iX+c1uWkZ8N21lQzeVpdBYE8WjqNp2uj0LWyO0pS/U=
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Film resources don't seem to be very abundant so here's the quick rundown of them: Most of them are about Darkroom/Processing stuff, something i don't know about but i bet is overly important. The Darkroom Cookbook sounds like a most and it has to be said, Ansel Adams' famous trilogy seems to be mandatory, sooner or later i will have to talk about that feller. https://zerobin.net/?b298ad101d75d6f4#JMXJBgAG2BU0C80Tsh7MgR500FDGYjm4LnrBf31n/1I=
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Truth is we need to check the Meta of the hobby once in a while but everyone has a different start to their own path, these documents range from essays on philosophical matters, mental preparedness or plain old legal rights and obligations when capturing public images. I would say The Daily Book of Photography and The Spoken Image are a quick way to warm things up. https://zerobin.net/?b06ae8652a5793f6#Nt0B2LV/LYRmw3BUswrDQzNfedqU1gqo++caEh1u210=
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In my opinion Composition is the most important thing in Photography, so this section should be mandatory for all of us. Many talk about rules and how we should follow them, honestly that's just early small talk to make people not run around like crazy shooting and wasting energy experimenting pathlessly. Knowing most rules is important but understanding them is what makes it so fulfilling to break and make a mess out of photography, as far as i know most anything can be justified if it looks cool, it's just matter of knowing when to do and how to explain it, if it needs to. I will separate this in 2: General and Vision along with miscellaneous in the next post, one deals with the rules and common contrivances and the other is mostly a mentality thing with some specialty stuff not big enough for their own thing. Here thankfully there's options to pick from, sadly there's no Understanding Composition Field Guide by B-Pete but some other names can be found, along with his Learning to See Creatively. David Präkel, Michael Freeman and Harold Davis' efforts are known in the field (or their names, at least) but for a balls-deep option there's Foundations of Arts & Design, dense but works in all art fields. Guidelines for Better Photographic Composition is a very dusty option but effective and can be very quickly digested. https://zerobin.net/?67bbf053f6ee5f85#tau7ZR3BL88YQ5Tk+RfMcLMNulsscp+bUQexmnqZjqM=
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Here i haven't checked that much, shame on me, but again we can see "trusted" names like Freeman, duChemin, Davis, Darling and Tharp. For the special ones i would go for Plant's The Visual Flow, very easy to read, also DuFault's Advanced Composition which is surprisingly easy to read too. https://zerobin.net/?19486a11f411f515#f58WZXNNElFtxvTOsCG13s+Yk4j6D5YUc83D8Q+jCtI=
Edited last time by Lensman on 05/20/2020 (Wed) 22:37:45.
Thanks anons
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After composition the other big thing is Light, after all it's the art of capturing light's interaction with the environment. Hence why this section is big, let's start with the General things. David Präkel again serves as a good introduction, these Basics Photography from his are a good pick. For a more detailed perspective there's Lighting Photo Workshop and Stoppee's Guide to Photography & Light. https://zerobin.net/?8c27cdf945e95587#1Gutplk+fe/Qo2Y2/Q2pvr5JdNAUpQMV3fFvRw8WOos=
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Here's the more specialized or named differently aspect of light in photography, aptly classified under the all-important Exposure parameter. Bryan Peterson made his name under Understanding Exposure, i uploaded 2 editions because i found them to be slightly different and some might prefer one over another. Digital Exposure Handbook is also nicely presented, there's also Präkel who appears again and so does Freeman, but for a small introduction there's Exposure ~ Understanding Light by a lad called Nigel Hicks. https://zerobin.net/?1639f54aad5be13a#Jhes1Ls+qEZW5RFt7X2nSp36lAQTbay5nuvibeJPW8c=
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Now this section is, at least for me and for some people, as mandatory as composition: Low-Light & Nighttime. When i started going around taking photos in my free-time after school, around 5:00pm and after on, i was appalled by how shitty cameras get when the sun is starting to get sleepy, and even with entry-level DSLRs most people will have pictures as grainy as a rice bag if they cannot fully grasp exposure time and digital ISO settings, even when the sun hasn't actually gone to dusk yet. This also applies to interiors and harsh situations that need some quick wits, if anything this only makes us appreciate how advanced our biological eyes are compared to these machines. Some of these texts go into how cloudy and flat lightning is a "bad" thing but that's just petty talk compared to actual nighttime environments and compositional challenges, but still for a quick intro there's Good Photos in Bad Lightning and An Introduction to Night Photography. I was reading Better Available Light and it's good enough. https://zerobin.net/?fa85ef63bebd7704#akyhNyXXSywQhNlo97+Co2XImwce9I/LhCbpAtux0sI=
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And speaking of exposure time, that brings us to the next point that opened my eyes at one point, the realization these things we use are actual time machines just like a video camera would be in a more explicit way, it's the Chronos aspect, the art of capturing movement in a set parameter of time and making it look good and composed. While this isn't a new concept at all, if anything it predates the f/64 due to the Futurismo Italiano delving into photography a century ago, it still is seen as experimental or "candid" (and ridiculed constantly) due to the unpredictability of the results yet trends like Fotodinamismo/Photodynamism, Time-Flow Photography or Chronophotography make a clear case you can in fact predict the result and thus compose it, it's tricky but it can be done and it's overall pretty cool to pull out but for many people this venture is seen as lame, i say this because i particularly like this genre but i see many criticism towards it from some critics and protogs while also defending stuff like Street flashing. A dude called Rick Doble made his college teacher career rambling about it in defense but he has some interesting (and very sane) points, and while i couldn't find his actual book some of his writings are worth a check even when he's a bit too enthusiastic about it. Our man Bryan also pulled a book here so it must be good, i own that one a read. https://zerobin.net/?382347950dbc1e62#yDi8ohWTCnqE7l+4SVwbbYrJA4RIvGAPbagciKD6JHo=
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Here's a big chunk of cheese and something that composed the entire hobby for half of its lifetime, Black & White. We could spend a long time talking about it but safe to say it still is a relevant thing even if overused by pretentious parties, although probably because it's highly efficient in getting the most out of light and textures. Many things are relevant here and, even when some people ignore it, colour is giant part of it. Honestly it's a lot of books and i can only recommend the ones i have read: Luminosity & Contrast and Black & White Photography ~ A Complete Guide for Nature Photographers, but there's a couple of Tips-tier books so there's that for a slightly advanced-intro read. Shooting Black & White on your DSLR and Black & White Photography Made Easy are two of those. Going a bit into it i think we can all agree the famed "Zone System" is still the basic way to make "realistic" B&W, but we can manipulate it and there's a couple of documents fully chewing it down so if anyone wants to heavily do monochrome photography, especially those stinkin' urbanites with a film camera, then go check the zone. I would twitch Sector V and VI a little to be fair. https://zerobin.net/?f9cf895fbf68fbdb#B7DfQXM6dPk8Fmd1aG7gjEXQu9FaewdgsEEH1CXMlV8=
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Now for real dense shock here's the 'Colo(u)r area, color theory should be as hard if not more to check than B&W and to be honest i don't know a thing about it, nor do i know if Color Management is the same as Color Theory or if it is a digital technical aspect only. Shoot me and burn my remains if you want but i have ignored this aspect until i started downloading these books, some are highly technical, others are specialty like Infrared Photo, i just know Color Confidence and Color Management ~ A Comprehensive Guide for Graphic Designers are very well known in the field. The former has an hilarious foreword intro if you read its writer's name last. https://zerobin.net/?c9e2efa44358c8ce#Wj0d2bMsAYZpOArQzMzHEt1Vjsmpb5jkkttsu9z/WMQ=
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Gear has always a sinister connotation in hobby fields as it brews every kind of emotions from peers against each others, Photo is no exception and in fact it's one of the its biggest battlegrounds, stuff from 10 years ago are not so hot these days and the eternal improvement of image and capabilities always makes most of us want to sell everything for that latest dynamic range or ultra-fast prime lens. Film enthusiasts are somewhat exempt of it until we realize they constantly fling punches for film rolls, frankly excellent vintage lenses and for the unlucky non-urbanite ones about any kind of darkroom supplies. But at the end of the day we still need to delve into it just like Meta, but here goes a couple that are friendly enough as they showcase cheap fun stuff like Pinhole cameras, Toy cameras and techniques for already-acquired gear. I would recommend Plastic Cameras, Creative Lens Techniques and Tack Sharp, in the case of the latter i have to mention the fact writers are also human and are prone to errors, in the case of James Brandon he's seems to have a big image of himself at times but has some great advice too, one of my favorites Ian Plant also slips some ego trips at times and B-Pete can be, and usually is, very cutthroat about certain aspects that are otherwise flexible under some circumstances. If personality is a factor for you (it should to be fair, it's reading a dude's opinions for 100+ pages) then researching their style is adviced, many of them as you can see overlap in fields here and have several books, if you like the style of someone in a specific theme i would highly recommend looking for him first if you are interested in another topic, that's the reason some highly skilled writers usually lose sale wars against other more casual but more friendly writers. At the end i will post all the links in a single bin if anyone wants to do that kind of trip, i wanted to make small bin dumps every post so if someone is just looking for a single book he doesn't have to swim in letters and numbers. And let's not even talk about the usual talking heads on social media shilling for products, that's a bigger pandemic than the 'rona and always has been, so it's a duty to talk about honest individuals who are not swayed by this. So for the first channel recommendation i would say i check one certain guy sometimes, he does lens reviews and seems to be very neutral, along with being pleasant in his demeanor and overall quite honest i would recommend it: Christopher Frost Photography. Beware, checking lenses without need for them is like checking candies from the shop's window, it will only lead to suffering if you don't have the funds. https://zerobin.net/?09f7a6aad7072247#MSvUUjS5m6F3I1ed5q/JBrBpmScaaQ3ur/ny7vcVcUQ=
And yes, here's finally one of the most infamous aspects of digital photography, idolized as it is vilified, killed as it has brought to life, it can bring so much to the table as it can make many look like a congolese clown in the pursuit of full exposure: The High Dynamic Range Processing and File Blending. As with many things, it's a matter of good taste to perform well here but time and time again we see war crime examples of over-processing due to the abilities it gives to a project, something that was seen as a wet dream for decades is now widespread technology and many push the boundaries to absurd levels to feel empowered about it. The fact you can stack different exposures AND focus settings in the same composition and even enhance their details later on digitally made many photographers high on crack and falling into this hole can be very easy, i did fell and sometimes still do because it's also an effective way to overcompensate about not having good equipment. If done with decency, respect and self-control this field can be very highly rewarding and pull results that could otherwise be done only with much more expensive gear, although it doesn't save you from having to spend a little more time in programs along with exposure times. Some of these documents, as with many other previous examples in digital fields, have tons of dust in their info department (aka outdated) but some aspects are still fresh, some are extremely technical like HDRI ~ Acquisition, Display & Image-based Lightning so i could only recommend the basics like Top 10 Mistakes in HDR Processing & How to Fix Them, because it's easier what not to do before doing it. I would still not recommend trying this until you can control your pants, but if you must do so then there's the line between doing it manually and with assist software like Photomatix and Aurora HDR which are quick but leave many things to be desired at times, so for that i would recommend a saint called Jimmy McIntyre, he's more of an exposure blender than HDR specialist but he still jumps the shark at times, yet his manual technique, demeanor and assist software explanation are on-point; He did tons of material as technical support in his channel after creating his own plugins for Photoshop like RayaPro and Lumi32 but his patience still surprises me, i might upload his videos in a single pack later on for convenience. https://zerobin.net/?52992f25d3c6ed19#bQ3FeI6oi1qXFtFu3fwCDJesrA8pOO1mClix8FoGrkw=
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Here's the other half of the cheese wheel, Nature & Scaping Photography which might be the most popular field after studio and portrait work. I'm going to divide this in 7 parts, honestly not much to say here other than it being pretty overplayed yet pretty beautiful anyways. Here's the Introduction, it's just your basics tips and how to get into it. Frankly at this point i can say for sure we will read a book from this dump very once in a while if rarely, and i agree because it's not very fun but in terms of tip-reading i recommend doing it as often as you can, they are easy to chew and can be read very casually. It's good to have them in your cellphone or casually open them while hearing music, in the long run you learn a ton from it. https://zerobin.net/?bd6c237f0e448c38#hQikY730rPHxFXmm9yGBXAzXXk0bDmbIRL8CJDfmIq4=
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Here's the General area as usual, some of these act just as well as a General Photography guide so there's that if you see the intro going for too long. The menu says The Essential Guide to Landscape Photography and Digital Nature Photography ~ The Art & The Science https://zerobin.net/?d3343f6d6b649f12#3Vdz0hEtdSCRlBGHQ9PU1SVUK4IFj/Wo+qI0UMZlkdU=
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Another personal favorite, Landscape applies similarly to other stuff like Seascapes and sometimes even Cityscapes, obviously each with their special rules and compositional challenges, but the technicals are similar. Plant's 20 Indispensable Photo Tips and The Grand Landscape are good intros, Reading the Landscape and The Art, Science & Craft of Great Landscape Photography are great for more info and Beyond the Grand Landscape if you don't really have many grand scenery sets around you. https://zerobin.net/?d56c5d24a1b00427#PrtTfbm4IilzVbMqTy4WH/h0zZsP8vMR9M+hVM1NMTg=
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Macro or Close-Up Photography is also a great way to pass time when you don't have many places to go and 600 bucks in your pockets that can go into a good macro lens. Honestly i don't know much here but the usual names are there, Macro Photography Photo Workshop did strike me as being very complete. https://zerobin.net/?91677826061f0e14#/pvDfXkXlteoxJdqOITBJqGWYuV3scSZ6mwJIxJvhT0=
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Underwater Photography, now that's another one i'm afraid to comment because i don't know anything about it and i doubt i will ever delve in it, the sea i swim is dark and muddy as hell, i don't think the fish and sharks there even know what they are doing and the camera's shell cost a pretty coin. I wonder how much in demand it actually is, still it's gorgeous at times. https://zerobin.net/?a3ad5353fec53468#hrkOd4vPRI50r5inZwLkOJRWopLMSzRZoiBgHVj5Y6M=
The good old Specialty section now this time for nature activities, we have extensive birding guides (which oddly due to its popularity should have more books around) aerial photo, pet portraiture, museum catalogue, a butterfly catalogue and a couple of adventurer's guides, one for climbing and another for cycling. Also a mineral/petrophotography that might be interesting for people studying that seriously. https://zerobin.net/?18d98360039b9a31#Sr65AYjH3zpdzVlF70vNGjCS0JDgTA73OirfqLq9+CI=
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Astrophotography is nowadays at odd with the PayPal Guy's satellite train roaming the sky, but for those who still want a try here's a bunch of them. Now if there's a tricky sub-genre along with Chronos it's this one, also demands quite the knowledge of what you are actually wanting to shoot. https://zerobin.net/?eb78318574a449fc#f/RPONL79T6S9ULKlqUZScM/D7UKd4r7J5KVNYA70WM=
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This is my jam, Architecture, but just like birding it's strange how few written material there is compared to video tutorials or even countless images from architect firms and real estate companies, especially taking into account an architect's real ego stroke and international awareness is done solely via photographic evidence of physical places we might never visit, and/or schematics of their planning. From Basics to Fine Art has to be one of the most pretentious titles with one of the most pretentious activities done to architecture, but when reading the authors' real intentions and attitudes towards it then it smooths down to just being pompous but entertaining. Fine Art Photography, especially from the architecture field, is in vogue due to its easiness to launder money and sell someone as an artist but when you look into it in what i like to call Architectural Portrait, the act of embellishing buildings without going clown world and focusing solely on it as the only protagonist in its context, i don't know i find that noble and respectful especially if done to old and ignored places; I don't know about the laundering thing and making yourself look like you designed the thing tho. Architectural Photography ~ Composition, Capture & Digital Image Processing by Adrian Schulz was also good enough, and i'm suspecting that guy is the son or grandson of a famed arch photographer that pioneered the photobook architect trend many unknowingly fall into. So can't be bad if he is, if not then i can recommend another guy for it, he's a bit on the wee side but he's highly experienced and explains things clearly enough: FStoppers' Mike Kelley, he has a couple of tutorials under the name Where Art Meets Architecture and they are stupidly expensive, and they are worth it if you know what to do with the information; Obviously if you, by any chance, encounter them laying around in some form of free download that would be nice, sadly not today. https://zerobin.net/?cde44fa82691589c#9z4f8en7h0v9EHAHs8hh7PDQLpnroGHMokpsnow8/Xw=
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Street Photography was originally a hobbyist off-shot area for photojournalists, over time this genre has proven to be one of the more controversial even or thanks to its ease to perform, in my humble opinion being early in this heliographic hobby i have identified 3 ways or trends this field has and i will be cutthroat with it: The Jewish Way, which is about going around shooting people in the face, preferably with a flash. Bonus points if it focus on themes like homelessness (hobo portraits) and quick candid portraits. Most controversy arises from here due to stepping on the edge of many laws and common decency/privacy and the constant law and rights many photographers wave when caught. Rarely focuses on the physical street themselves and sometimes does with the machinations happening there like traffic or machinery. The Respectful but actually a Spy Way, the japanese in their seemingly decency when confronted in vast social environments are famous for this one, being polite and acting respectfully while taking shots, sometimes with 2 cameras so he can even gift a polaroid to its subject, was an old way. Nowadays you can link it in social media or in the case of many madmen out there in the middle of the 90's you can pull the move The Beastie Boys made aware in the mainstream when they were shooting videos in Tokyo: Dress like a complete and utter loon (or simply in very flashy, almost phosphorescent colors) to make people become aware of you and by some kind of social stigma ignore your presence in society, but still shoot them in the face. Personally in my tough town this is the best way, act as evident as possible but without stepping toes, for example holding the camera in mid-position while looking at something will make people aware of your intentions without being surprised in my case i actually dressed as a construction worker and as a land surveyor a couple of times but in the case of actually shooting civilians' portraits without their consent that's a hard one, i never do it because here that stuff doesn't fly, you will get chased or called out by upstanding citizens who are not kidding around 24/7 i know because i did kick a dude once for shooting me in the middle of downtown when he walked by me innocently, also have seen other photogs get mobbed by rural visitors minding their business until they got snapped And the Original Way, which is nowadays archaic/unorthodox or even another genre altogether, it's a combination of capturing the city life but having both its protagonists, the pedestrians and the architecture, as main focus of the composition and sometimes even just the buildings itself. It's called by the hipsters as a hybrid between architecture and street, and by some old school fellows as Cityscape or Hardscape. By all historical means this was actually the first way to do it. While some claim Henri Cartier-Bresson is the father of the genre it's fair to say he simply established a way of doing it because portraying the city life from a pedestrian perspective has been since the mid-to-late 19th century. It is indisputable to claim he's the godfather of all hipster photogs, thou, hence why this field is filled much more than usual with morality, ethics, ego ramblings and personal manifestos more than techniques. It is satisfying to pull, that's for sure, but it commands a very firm personal belief system and a good pair of legs (and even fists) from the performer. For the usual bystander this is the definitive asshole's way of doing photography. Someone mentioned Urbex, i looked for it but i only found a free pseudo-manifesto from some dude, in such a youth and trendy sub-genre i think most content will be found on video channels rather than old text but it's definitely a highly interesting if just as dangerous way to do photography. But in this case i do find value in it as it showcases dilapidation, urban sprawl, abandonment, so on and so on, along with architecture; In a way it's more socially relevant than public portraits. I'll have to go with my man Plant here but his book is more of a flex than a didactic plan, still... Taking it to the Streets ~ The Art of Street Photography, also Street Photography Now and let's not forget Ta's Urban Exploration Photography. Really it's tough to recommend much because half of these encourage the photographer to be as transgressive as possible. https://zerobin.net/?6381ca00de935092#hyp839iA7IeCeDnlPHPKGkn0ZZNO0mZJVpwO+rbzfbY=
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Even Food Photography has its technique, and if anything it's one of those arts that will actually make you money fast. Also free food. All of these are good, it's only 4 documents and they are written for easy understanding. https://zerobin.net/?12587d22f69758c9#9VZrwLc7AEM8btchiueBMmfBlTJTmr+LvBgLUjubwh8=
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This one needs good gear, full stop. It's Sport Photography and it's/was filled with drama every weekend, the advantage of buying all that expensive stuff is that small or isolated teams will usually grant you field access easily enough and they even offer some money if they like one of your pictures. I've met a dude who did just that and made more money in his free time than in his real engineer job, made footballer's portraits for small articles, shot some matches, then the newspaper offered some money, some rich footballer needed classy portraits. Then he stopped going to matches and it never happened again, at least he barely got even after spending that much money for the IDX. https://zerobin.net/?42cfcb24ad156108#HEDAOUD2ZeTpxgZ3zRAkJRR4QVCjIIWgml5Syr2/E/w=
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This is the section for very specific topics and bizarre themes that might elicit said eponymous term. It is a mystery for sure with some of these, the advanced one being an intro and the beginner's guide being basically a 700-pages long federal document. https://zerobin.net/?47f3e2f23adc4c32#5XS0xHZlWEazOCBl7W8KnopmThpxB7mSvZM2YpSSKp8=
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Hope some of these are from your benefit, wanted to give a chunky beginning to this venture but i did left many genres behind like Studio and Portraiture due to thinking many of us would not go into it until much later. Still if someone is interested in that or some other topic i might have just throw a comment, also i want to give an apology because i found some of these documents have some weird errors into them making text go invisible or non-existent, sorry for letting those go and if someone finds one by chance i'll see what i can do to upload another version. Also here's a full list of documents uploaded in this start if someone is mad enough to give them all a go. https://zerobin.net/?48761805f1cda412#qiUfKdWgafS68EH4+XtNcDmZGtuyxuzL4b48RV5xA8Q=
Edited last time by Lensman on 05/21/2020 (Thu) 16:02:27.
>>66 Holy crap, thanks so much anon, this thread is fantastic for photographers of any skill level!
>>67 Does that zerobin link work for you? It seems for me zerobin is down
>>68 Down for me too, thanks for pointing that out. These are all the links, if Zero doesn't get up soon i will edit all the posts with new ones. Meanwhile: https://paste.tuxcloud.net/?52d7949cb283f0d3#2magUi1KbRQm9VppztxrV6Pz8o19MSncwS9T6agiZDAx
Oh snap it's been 2 weeks now? Time flies when playing video games So here's an old but gold video i had, it's our boy B-Pete with a compilation of short beginner's tips he did long time ago for home release and i think some short excerpts made it into travel channels and such. Like we previously mentioned, Pete is a bit cutthroat and absolutist in terms of what you should and should not do which is silly to tell you the truth, photography "rules" are actually guidelines or general advises so people don't go crazy or wonder aimlessly for a while. Bryan uses the direct rule format lessons to herd the newcomers, which he probably saw as middle-aged bored dentists with money to blow, as the target audience and decided to make videos in his easy-going but focused persona telling you never to take a picture with the horizon in the middle, even when in his vast curriculum he has done so multiple times with good results. Again, if you see his recommendations as general friendly guidelines instead of stone rules then viewing/reading is much more relaxed and didactic. You can also see he sports the late 80's/90's japanese technique of street photography, dress as wacky as you feel comfortable with and always be attentive and smiling in a friendly non-wacko way, all with a tinge of typical anglo tourist. He actually is more reserved in classes but that's his persona, no doubt you saw him at least once if you viewed or surfed early 00's TV channels around home improvement or traveling. Here's the link, an hour long, 400MB. ZeroBin seems to be working now for all posts so there's that. https://zerobin.net/?d18022b36a01f7a3#p7HFKB0dK3GBG7vwxJ1+j1H1ebHBMypXKNSUBi/UVk8=
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At some point maybe you guys will hear stuff like Microcontrast and 3D Pop when lurking around videos or texts about image and/or a lens quality, most of the time accompanied with the eternal Sharpness discussion. I found this greatly useful text that is definitely worth a check, it explains it cleanly and concise although it also results in the reader realizing once again the root of many problems is confusion of terms/semantics, leading to argument despair and further shitflinging. It's hard to understand what certain things are when the interlocutors in a discussion think they know what something is when one or both simply don't. Basically they aren't on the same channel. >https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2009/06/have-you-seen-my-acutance/ Now another problem is when the lens manufacturer companies themselves confuse terms, but because they are actually the music makers & dreamers of dreams, who do we believe? basically it's a clusterfuck term, much like Cinema's Mise-en-scene And to add a little more knowing a certain term will come out eventually when "microcontrast" enters a discussion, the result of good resolution means good inter-tonal transmission... usually, because the tonal range consequence of inter-tonal rendering might be present but the acutance itself might be not, and when we add the other factors like light and color rendering... Picking a lens is no joke.
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OK back to posting, sometimes i find decently explained stuff that i think most would find helpful even if used as a quick reminder, i will try to post them when i see them. This one is about some dude asking what's the difference and advantages of lenses with a focus motor inside or with a drive mechanism to make the motor off-lens (in-body).
It's been exactly one year since this thread was made, wow. To PDF anon: I have a direct line to ogre, stone and even the BO, maybe we can do something about that RB you told me about at the dreaded site. I suppose you don't use twitter.
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>>186 >It's been exactly one year Quite honestly i thought it was way before for some reason. >that RB Calling it quits, liked to browse the dunk and the dup some months ago but it developed into an inarticulate mess and i find no pleasure in going there anymore or at least not in the same level as i did, i can use a cheap VPN but i don't know, the only thread i posted re-iteratively was the art photo one anyways plus i am sad to never frequent the drawing one that fellow did by uploading videos now that i started pushing pencils again. I think he's one of the very few who browses /loomis/ so i will just upload there and hope he'll see it and start driving our posts again. >twitter I don't recall having an account there so i can't say something affirmative. I do appreciate your kind help but seeing it on the bright side this forces me to push myself here to post more content and i still can see the posts from back there at least. Bans usually disappear after 3 months due to some tech shenanigans anyways, perma or not so i wouldn't worry about it that much bud. It was a very silly ban too hence why my extra bitterness but i can understand it, if you ever contact them for some reason tell the ogre i said he should stop drinking soda & eating cheese and to screw his shemale sister for banning me. Also what's with the Exakta guy? i thought that kind of loonies disappeared long ago on that hell hole but glad to see some mavericks still going at it and having that drive even if he's a bit unorthodox in his behavior. He maybe posted on 8k /p/ recently heh, was oddly surprised to lurk those wastelands and quickly realize it was probably the same guy, perhaps he was one of the old posters but i can't point my finger in who was it having read and achieved most of the posts in the 8.
>>187 Vivitar anon summoned me here, I'm stonevol, Chances are you got caught in a rangeban that wasn't meant for you. We've been dealing with some persistent spammers. If you tried to post a couple days ago please try again. One of us mods got caught in one overly wide ban, I kid you not. Try posting using Opera VPN. The guy making videos is the board owner, you can see it in the name he uses. You're a valuable poster, and it frustrates me that you can't post. Unlike cuckchan mods we try to not be faggots. I see no bans issued to any of the IDs you have in that photo thread, so I assume the message you're getting is "your IP is listed in blah blah blah".
>>187 Exakta guy is sure that a SHTF scenario is about to happen and wants to hand them to people to document the day of the rope or whatever. He was about to give up on everything (literally everything) until he found reflex cameras and how magical they can be. I can proudly say I played a role in that. The usual suspects didn't want him to buy a Pentax and wanted him to get some soulless mirrorless but I encouraged him as did others and the guy discovered a new passion. So he's alive thanks to reflex cameras. He's new to photography as an end, before getting his first reflex photography was to him a means to an end (mostly to getting pictures of things to sell). He quickly found how immersive reflex photography can be, with the lens acting as an extension of your eye. And he got some macro lenses so it literally revealed an unknown world to him. Also I'm currently ban evading on the site you lured me out on, I made some confrontational f/64 threads that mods considered off topic after some faggot reported me. Half the replies before it was deleted were things like "am I supposed to know who that is?" Despicable state that board is in, lol. >>188 Good to have you here.
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>>188 >One of us mods got caught in one overly wide ban What the hell are you guys doing anyways >The guy making videos is the board owner I don't know why i didn't suspect that, well that practically proves the constant posters are board owners. >I assume the message you're getting is "your IP is listed in blah" My provider hooks me with dynamic IPs so many of the old posts stay there, i did make some comments later that might be considered spicy although i did them politely and with arguments, but the context was tough and probably somebody just blanket dunked a bunch of us in a single go to avoid further trouble. I think someone at Z/b/ said the same, it isn't my first ban on tvch anyways so i assume i'm just a bit inflammatory at times. Guess i am just tired about having stuff deleted despite not being a spammer or troll, i will try to post later on Opera if someone comes up (or to cheer the drawing BO). >>189 I read in one of the countless gear threads that he was a contractor in the middle east right? sounds bizarre enough but i commend you on saving someone from buying rope rather than glass, or in this case mirrors and prisms. >Pentax Is he also the Pentax K1 guy? hard not to like reflex with that machine, if it wasn't for the expensive aka scarce used market for modern-ish PK mount FF lenses i would've pointed for it. >a SHTF scenario is about to happen and wants to hand them to people to document the day of the rope wat. A noble cause to be fair although i would've looked for pinhole boxes and easy-to-get sensible paper as pseudo-film slides as it sounds more reasonable in the case of a total mayhem scenario. The chaos of everything burning down being depicted by Dresden cameras does give a poetic irony to it that i cannot avoid smirking at. Exakta cameras seem cheap but the glass is rare other than the 50mm Orestor i think, one of my unicorn/utopian lenses i want someday is an Exakta one, the eagle-printed red T* military Zeiss 75mm 1.5 made for third reich photographers, it has nervous bokeh yet it's also very blurred out, making it one of few lenses i've read that look like paint brush strokes. Pair that it also swirls like a madman and you have one of the most unique renderings i've seen (pics related no homo with the speedo dude one), colors and tones are Third Reich Zeiss-tier so you can imagine it being quite an expensive thing to look for although not as expensive as Leica stuff. >I made some confrontational f/64 threads f/64? you mean the Ansel and Imogen group? rofl i am no OG /p/ expert, if anything i know very little of its history compared to most anons i've read either here or in the old 8 place, but from the little i've lurked a year ago and this week that topic aka good old Ansel is like going to /tv/ to seriously talk about Tarkovsky and his ambience construction, you are going to get your house burned down and body persecuted by the mods just for fun. You have some nerve in trying to do so, those guys are hopeless, they are classic modernists who hate everything old to make space for the new yet there's nothing new ideologically speaking, it's technology pushed by big entities looking for quick profit guiding the way rather than idealist creators looking for a different or refined way for glory or love for the art. In short it's a bunch of carpenters glorifying brand new saws and hammers rather than wood and chairs. I did see some good elements here and there, some anons clearly are trying hard but i do suspect some of those efforts were actually you. One namefag was a terrible/very experimental photographer one year ago but i found that he does solid gear explanations now, i liked some of his posts but i will stop right there. >ban evading Man that's hilarious, i went there yesterday (2 days ago by now) and got a warning, you can check most of my incidents (they are banners here). Now you are giving me a new goal to continue with that photographer gallery thread, i downloaded and organized about 100+ Ansel pics in decent resolution but never went to write a good bio of his to support it, neither the she photographer i wanted to get into before him. Interesting guy, wonder if he ever saw a Bigfoot because he did spend unholy amounts of time alone in places that chimp appeared, plus he was a longtime Sierra Club member and talked quite moderately with injuns.
>>189 No problem. Something obviously went wrong and we need to fix it. >>190 >What the hell are you guys doing anyways We've been dealing with some very persistent spammers who use bots with VPNs and try to fuck with the site. If you got a "your IP is listed on blah blah blah" then it's not something you said that got you banned, it's something someone else did. If you get a "you were banned for X reason" then you A lot of people are angry about our site not letting them post honeypot material and have been trying to fuck with the site. Sometimes the measures do unintended collateral damage. Each new banned range is a tough decision, the last thing we want is preventing legitimate users from posting. >I don't know why i didn't suspect that, Well, he doesn't exactly hide it. If you pay attention he wasn't posting as anon. >well that practically proves the constant posters are board owners. /art/ is one of the small boards where there's posters other than the BO. /lit/ is another example. /wooo/ is mostly kept afloat by one guy but he's not even a mod. Funnily enough one of the oekaki guys on /art/ posted something about him thinking us mods "probably hate" him because he's a "shitposter" but he's actually one of the funniest posters on the site. >i did make some comments later that might be considered spicy although i did them politely and with arguments I hope it wasn't related to Nabokov if you catch my drift. >you can check most of my incidents (they are banners here). kek, that kind of ban embarrasses me. Reminds me of the shitheads on /tv/ banning me for baneposting years ago.
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>>190 >I read in one of the countless gear threads that he was a contractor in the middle east right? sounds bizarre enough but i commend you on saving someone from buying rope rather than glass, or in this case mirrors and prisms. Something like that, he worked for sheiks and stuff. Not sure the type of work he did. >Is he also the Pentax K1 guy? hard not to like reflex with that machine, if it wasn't for the expensive aka scarce used market for modern-ish PK mount FF lenses i would've pointed for it. Yeah, that's him. One seldom mentioned thing is that there's a bunch of APS-C K lenses that work perfectly on full frame. They're optimized for APS-C but I guess they wanted them to be able to be used on the analog range back when all their digitals were APS-C. He mostly shoots vintage glass, in fact one Exakta mount lens he bought was what lead him to discover the cameras. >A noble cause to be fair although i would've looked for pinhole boxes and easy-to-get sensible paper as pseudo-film slides as it sounds more reasonable in the case of a total mayhem scenario. The chaos of everything burning down being depicted by Dresden cameras does give a poetic irony to it that i cannot avoid smirking at. Yeah, it's an odd choice. He initially thought of doing it with digital Pentaxes (K-10 and such, he's also the airship OP) until he found out about caffenol and that developing film wasn't as complicated as he previously thought and didn't need a darkroom. >Exakta cameras seem cheap He's been cornering the market though lol, drying the eBay well. I think he recently cashed out a bunch of crypto he had to buy more cameras, dodged a bullet if I got that right because crypto just crashed hard. >f/64? you mean the Ansel and Imogen group? Yeah lol. Funniest part is that sometimes I do actually shitty bait threads and they fly right through the censors. I've managed to do a few stealth Sneed threads and it's impressive how no one notices what's going on. I'm convinced the majority of the board are reddit tourists. And the mods are hell-bent on crushing on "racists" but the moment you use some lingo they're not too familiar with your post becomes invisible. A while ago I said "groids" in one post, and it was very vitriolic. One guy who agreed with my post got deleted, and a previous racist but very short and juvenile post I had made got deleted too. The post that said "groids" could be described as white supremacist because I shat on blacks and Asians simultaneously yet it stood untouched. I guess the mod in question was filtered by the lingo in the first sentence and didn't bother reading any further, lol. >Man that's hilarious, i went there yesterday (2 days ago by now) and got a warning, you can check most of my incidents (they are banners here). You run this place? Neat.
>>195 >I think he recently cashed out a bunch of crypto he had to buy more cameras If so he's a real lucky son of a gun, it did crash like a bandicoot. He's an interesting fellow but it is funny to think that there's few decent threads down there and he's the OP of two, possible three of them. We really are not that many. >Stealth Sneed That's just plain evil buddy, and yeah i remember actually studying them a year ago (shortly before settling the board here) to see what i could possibly do or recreate and i realized most of them are tourists, many are from the site although that's not saying much nowadays. The locals apart from being rampant gearfags are beyond jaded to the point they are permanently acting pissed and demotivated, ironically the newest of fags who think the board is about discussing photo are the ones who cheer them up a little, but those fellas rarely return. The guy that shat all over them, quality-wise, and who inspired me to buy the Stylus for example didn't return as far as i know, i remember also a fag who shoot B&W film wide open and out of focus, he did a Buddha picture that man i would kill to have something like that in my portfolio but he didn't return either. It's easy to check that, they like attention and share their IGs like the meat lollipop aficionados they are and their recent pictures are not found in that wasteland's archive. That either means they stopped posting or succumbed into the game of madness. >Groids rofl, i used joggers once or twice and it passed, but used negro once and they slapped me. The Protest march threads were a butcher shop a year ago, i guess the board's topic is liberal to be fair hence the liberal mods because /x/, a place i throw all my anger and insults, never ever has banned or warned me despite writing insults that would get me into trouble in our local /k/ if i tried, and by that we are talking just really mean tirades against innocent bystanders. That place is filled with bots most certainly anyways, the entire place is a shitshow and some retards at 8kun did hit the nail with the idea that the place is only successful because nobody uses it in its intended purpose, a forum, they just read the OPs and form an opinion/current idea based on the trending topics. A fast as fuck topic aggregator, even if a bot thread doesn't get any replies it succeeds in its intention to sway lurkers' opinions. Imagine thousands, maybe even tens of thousands, of lurkers only reading OPs using the catalog or the first-page threads, and now imagine there's 10 bots acting like TVch's Yakuza all day long. That's the grounds in which "fringe" (aka imageboard-stealing) YT content creators scrap to make their videos; the centipede meme is quite real and i still refuse to think about it seriously. >You run this place? Yeah, we really are just a few photogs not to mention i also have another board and possibly one more on the way. Don't like to shill the place so to avoid animosity because anons know it's just me so i merely use the place as an archive for old photos and PDFs. >Complain about site is a ban Damn, didn't know that one. I remember sometimes thinking how cool would've been to know that board back in the 2008-2012 days, but then i also remember the posts in 2014 8c/p/ were mostly tripfags so i think nothing has changed much other than the whole mirrorless war. There's some stories about me reading anons there asking where the old posters are but i think i posted some already, some reel SOBs to be fair, really ungrateful bastards even if they hate the site as much as we do. >>191 >I hope it wasn't related to Nabokov Just tangentially related, optics-wise it looked like i took the side of some predator despite not linking his posts so i guess they just blanketed me along with some other anon, a good part of the thread disappeared >oekaki guys on /art/ posted something about him thinking us mods "probably hate" him Oh yeah i remember something similar time ago, once The Ogre or somebody else deleted that "reply to the last post" oekaki thread and we stopped drawing for months. Some people just need to lay off the arrow menus man. >Well, he doesn't exactly hide it Not the sharpest tool in the shed right here, guess i need to read the name field again because i just saw he had one all along. This looks like a praetorian party, all of us here are either mods or BOs lol
>>197 >Just tangentially related What's the message you get when trying to post though? I'm asking because it's a technical thing. Different messages have different technical explanations. "Your IP is listed in XYZ" means one thing, "you've been banned for X reason" means another thing and there's a third that says "posting error" or something like that. >Oh yeah i remember something similar time ago, once The Ogre or somebody else deleted that "reply to the last post" oekaki thread and we stopped drawing for months. This wasn't even on /art/ or related to it, he just happens to be one of the oekaki guys. And I assure you, he hasn't been messed with other than one time over a year ago when he got a one day ban for losing it and going into a spamming spree lol. The thing is, the dude has a low concept of himself as a poster even though he's one of the best. >Some people just need to lay off the arrow menus man. The weird part is that /art/ rarely sees any mod intervention, you sure it wasn't some guy deleting his own post? Gay as it sounds, there's some dramafags that do that kind of thing and then complain to stir shit. Deleting an oekaki as a mod is pretty much unheard of. >This looks like a praetorian party, all of us here are either mods or BOs lol lol
>>197 >If so he's a real lucky son of a gun, it did crash like a bandicoot. He's an interesting fellow but it is funny to think that there's few decent threads down there and he's the OP of two, possible three of them. We really are not that many. He also made a macro thread some time ago, it was cool stuff. >That's just plain evil buddy They actually got really mad at my Sneed larp, bunch of insecure faggots lol. It's really easy to trigger them because they have a number of sacred cows and are very self-conscious about what they do. >rofl, i used joggers once or twice and it passed, but used negro once and they slapped me It's hilarious lol. They're also obsessed with /pol/. Did you see them lose their minds about how the gear thread is "nazi"? >Imagine thousands, maybe even tens of thousands, of lurkers only reading OPs using the catalog or the first-page threads, and now imagine there's 10 bots acting like TVch's Yakuza all day long. That's the grounds in which "fringe" (aka imageboard-stealing) YT content creators scrap to make their videos; the centipede meme is quite real and i still refuse to think about it seriously. I'm more concerned with the reverse, how the posters seem to parrot some idiotic youtubers on everything. Your "Der Jude" banner is on point, lol. >This looks like a praetorian party, all of us here are either mods or BOs lol I had some boards on 8ch before it went down, does it count? They were all SFW and the bastards never restored them.
>>198 >What's the message you get when trying to post though? I don't recall well but i said something that a 16yo and a 18yo have less biological differences than a 21yo and a 53yo, not referencing them doing the bad thing but clearly the context was related to it. >The weird part is that /art/ rarely sees any mod intervention Did i mention that? apologies if i did make it sound like that, it wasn't there but at dunk's. People moan all the time but it never stuck me that mods slapped random posters until it happened to me twice although the first time was quite long ago with a hurt mod. I don't think people would be so angry if the rule of "random boards mean mods can do random things too" was written explicitly. >Deleting an oekaki as a mod is pretty much unheard of. Yeah, some people love drama but i recall the ogre said something related to it in an apologetic way, i think either he or someone misclicked or thought the last posts were not related to the discussion and dunked it. But it was an actual thing but i am talking about months ago, i can even draw to you the last image i saw before i replied to it (pic related, it had more of an african face but i don't recall how) >>199 >because they have a number of sacred cows and are very self-conscious about what they do. You mean stuff that should not be touched? i can somewhat understand that but Sneed is not something i would think to be a priority. That actually sounds hilarious the more i think of it but i am suspecting i didn't quite get what you were saying. >Did you see them lose their minds about how the gear thread is "nazi"? The derangement hypothesis is not an idea of ours after all, it really is an actual thing. They didn't like my comment about brits either heh. >how the posters seem to parrot some idiotic youtubers on everything It's a vicious cycle sometimes but that is just as bad if the youtuber is a jackass or merely not into it other than money like Peter McFaggot for example, nice variable ND filters tho even if he didn't actually make them. >I had some boards on 8ch before it went down, does it count? Fully, i didn't back there yet i had 3 around here (one got canned at Julay). Mark didn't restore anything unless he had something to win, it's a miracle how /p/ there got restored but nobody other than Exakta returned, oh and me to talk about this place but they deleted my post. I guess there's a filter with most of the webring sites in it.
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Here's a nice asset for both newcomers and seasoned hobbyists: The Nikkor Lens Simulator, a tool from Nikon that shows the difference in focal lengths from 14mm to 800mm in FF (and APS-C) that will help understand the feelings and fact wider lengths are exponential compared to longer tele ones. The Angle of View is also provided, a number that should be much more used than it is. >https://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/lens/simulator/
>>214 >I don't recall well but i said something that a 16yo and a 18yo have less biological differences than a 21yo and a 53yo, not referencing them doing the bad thing but clearly the context was related to it. The thing is, I can't help you if you don't try to post and tell me what the site gives you back, lol. >Did i mention that? apologies if i did make it sound like that, it wasn't there but at dunk's. I see. No offense taken by the way, I just happen to like /art/ but I don't run it. I only moderate global stuff from there. I do moderate /dunk/ though, lol. >I don't think people would be so angry if the rule of "random boards mean mods can do random things too" was written explicitly. Again it's rare for a ban to happen on /dunk/ unless someone is being a complete ass and trying to make the entire board intentionally unpleasant in general.
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>>216 >tell me what the site gives you back Sorry, i got carried out, i recall it probably gave me the IP thing hence why i immediately thought it was a range one because i am in high doubt anyone is near me, you mentioned spammers use any kind of IP ranges but the odds seem slim for me. The specific message/screencap is: And it isn't there anymore, now i have gone and done it. Did you clean ranges? at least i can give you a date/context, it was a thread very similar or perhaps is 47476 (i am seeing familiar posts but i don't quite recall if it was there, lots of posts missing), i was with other two anons who went a bit more overboard than me. It was either that or a previous "8moe drama saga" thread. Because it's dunk i don't mind entering those games but someone slapped me or the spammers. >I do moderate /dunk/ though, lol. So it is you, then you probably remember that thread, you slammed some of us there. >it's rare for a ban to happen on /dunk/ Come on now, i am not going to say they don't ask for it but come on now, unless everyone at other places are making stuff.
>>215 Neat, bookmarked.
>>217 >The specific message/screencap is: And it isn't there anymore, now i have gone and done it. Did you clean ranges? It may have been an overly wide range we banned a few days ago that blocked even some of the mods, probably unrelated to whatever you posted on /dunk/. >So it is you, then you probably remember that thread, you slammed some of us there. I'm one of the many who do moderate /dunk/. It may be a VPN with a node near you. >Come on now, i am not going to say they don't ask for it but come on now, unless everyone at other places are making stuff. I mean for the majority of users. You have to be trying really hard to get banned, lol. We don't enjoy banning. It's something we do when someone forces our hand. Also if you have a dynamic IP (it seems that way from the way your IP is constantly changing) there's a chance it had recently been abused and registered in an anti-spam spam list. In any case I'm glad to have you back.
>>214 >You mean stuff that should not be touched? i can somewhat understand that but Sneed is not something i would think to be a priority. That actually sounds hilarious the more i think of it but i am suspecting i didn't quite get what you were saying. It wasn't Sneed on its own. It was "street snapshots" and speaking in a positive way about landscape, lol. Thread is still up, 3882709. They got super defensive about it. >The derangement hypothesis is not an idea of ours after all, it really is an actual thing. They didn't like my comment about brits either heh. The place has been overtaken by lefty faggots, who happen to have some of the sacred cows mentioned above. I think I'm going to tell them something they like is burgueois at some point in the future to see how they react. They're a fun lolcow to prod. >Fully, i didn't back there yet i had 3 around here (one got canned at Julay). Mark didn't restore anything unless he had something to win, it's a miracle how /p/ there got restored but nobody other than Exakta returned, oh and me to talk about this place but they deleted my post. Supposedly the guy in charge of doing the actual restorations was Codemonkey and Mark just handled the emails. Mark claims he protested when Codemonkey started deleting backups back when they decided "phase 1" was over. The entire ordeal left a very sour taste in my mouth because of the lack of transparency. They didn't even give me a backup to deploy elsewhere when I requested it (admittedly too late, had I known I'd have backed up long before shit went down).

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