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QTDDTOT Artist 05/15/2020 (Fri) 21:57:03 No.194
Questions that don't deserve their own thread - Sketches Edition. Do you usually refine the figure (face, accessories, hair, drapes) when sketching or its easier to just putting a landmark then refine it later in lineart?
>>402 I think there is a pretty big flaw with loomis which is what you described, where he'll seemingly miss stuff in his explanation, it gets even worse in his more advanced books. Basically don't worry too much if your drawings don't look like his stuff, instead try and concentrate on the construction of putting balls together to form more 3d looking faces and figures, the goal here is to train your mind to start thinking 3 dimensionally. .
So what is the point of Drawabox insisting you can only submit work for review if you use an expensive and specific brand of pen? Is this some sort of scam to make you buy from them or something? Shouldn't a good sharp pencil be able to deliver the gradiant that they're looking for? I'm just a complete fucking asshole so maybe I'm wrong and it makes sense to people who know what they're talking about, but it just seems a weird point to push to me.
>>427 I've never submitted work mostly because nobody ever actually seems to give criticism since there are hundreds of non reviewed work on there. Draw a box definitely has some iffy monetized shit on there which you can safetly ignore. That being said, you should draw in pen for the exercises since part of the reason you're doing them is also to work on controlling your pen. Pen is less forgiving so it makes you start to think about where your putting your mark before you do it.
>>436 >since part of the reason you're doing them is also to work on controlling your pen. Pen is less forgiving so it makes you start to think about where your putting your mark before you do it. Not him but If I'm trying to get into digital would it be a good idea to do the exercises with my tablet, or should it be pen no matter what?
>>437 If you're starting out I would recommend to use pen for the drawabox/peter han exercises, it really forces you to think about making marks without erasing. I have heard of artists going full digital from the start but I personally found it more distracting than anything since digital is just another layer of disconnect from what you're seeing and what your hand is doing.
>>438 I mean I've already had a fair bit of experience drawing in physical, though that was mostly loomis stuff. It's getting used to making lines on a tablet that I'm having trouble with.
>>438 >it really forces you to think about making marks without erasing Is it really that wrong to erase lines when you're starting to learn? One line being messed up and you can destroy the perspective of a drawing. Sure some say that you can use the lines as restatements but you get lost in the midst of them
>>439 They general mindset behind digital is that it's just a tool, the same way a pencil or charcoal is, they take getting used to and they won't make you better. There;s no reason you can't go straight into digital if you want, but more than likely you'll get better results going full traditional and then transitioning. I have definitely heard of artists who have gone full digital early or straight away and had success, but it's hard to say what is going to be right for you.
For a complete newbie how long should one practice a day? One hour? Two? I know it's an every day thing but I'm still trying to figure it out between reading the books and actually drawing.
>>330 The trick is actually to learn to draw accurately and cutting down on erasing. If you get things right the first time it just becomes a matter of repetition to increase speed. So to go fast you might have to go slow first.
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>>445 Personally, I break up my drawing sessions into "microsessions" with the goal of reaching a "daily time total" of one hour at the minimum. I just keep a sketchpad on me or my tablet near me and when I find the time I do sketches, studies, or exercises in short bursts. The idea here is that I'm not forcing myself to draw for extended periods of time, and normally once invested I wind up drawing for way longer than I intended to anyway. All this really does is take off the pressure that is "I've been sitting here for [time] and I still haven't made any progress." I'd say "do what works for you," but an hour a day minimum is still the standard for learning most things for a reason.
>>445 Any time is okay long as you pace yourself and don't burnout. This isn't a sprint, it's a life-spanning marathon.
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Obligatory "how the fuck do I draw" question. This was the best of the three attempts, the first one was failed gesture from memory and never evolved past the stickman, the second involved construction and the result was vile.
>>459 Stop playing around with layers and extra brushes when you're barely into practicing anatomy and form. The cornucopia of digital tools is distracting you. Just keep scribbling with the pen or pencil brush until it starts looking better.
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Greetings /loomis/, thank you for all the information that can be found here. Here is my today's girl. >>459 Neat! I wanted to show you how I would go in this rainbow-marked place and ended up drawing this young lady. It probably won't help, but here she is. Thank you, I'll try to redraw her into completion next time.
>>461 Real good work lad
>>459 Don't give up! Use the resources in the meta thread!
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>>461 very good stuff >>459 looks good to me, just keep pushing forward
>>462 >>464 Doesn't it look too shapeless? I have a hard time trying to show 3d in 2d.
>>465 What do you mean by shapeless? If you're talking about whether or not it feels like it has form, you've done a pretty good job. important parts to note is that the lines overlap in t-sections well enough giving an illusion of depth. You did a really nice job with the top plane of the body where the trapezius and collar bones form the top. A few criticisms is that the hips area is where the illusion breaks down a bit since the perspective gets broken by the abdominal line sort of cutting down and it's unclear if how much the hips are rotating since you're showing a lot of the side of the hip that we probably wouldn't see. >>461 Actually looking at what this anon has done, you can see that the hip is far more rotated so we can see the side of the hips more. Although he's drawn it in a much flatter perspective and not top down like yours. All in all pretty good job, keep doing gesture drawings, anatomy studies and keep grinding perspective if you have time.
How should I be holding my pen for digital drawing? It's feels like my lines get really stuttery because my wrist drags, but if my hand is completely off any surface and there's no support I can't draw a line that isn't wavy and at a 45° off where I want it to go. >>459 For what it's worth that's 100 times better than anything I can draw.
>>467 It is all muscle memory. and don't feel afraid of zooming in so you have more space to draw on.
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>>467 >It's feels like my lines get really stuttery because my wrist drags Get one of those tablet gloves, it even helps me draw on paper.
>>465 It looks like something that needs to be finished, if anything
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Here is how it went. Is there anything I should change? I don't like young girls and their small breasts at all, so I rarely draw them. However, it may be interesting to draw them young and then how they look mature. >>466 Many thanks! I don't think I ever done any "gesture drawing" and perspective grinding, I should.
>>472 looks good, if anything her tits look just a bit too high up but that may be because of the angle. focus more on anatomy and all the little details that come with it. you're already worlds ahead of me so take my advice as you will
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resources for learning to draw individual body parts?
>>475 Did you check the Anatomy folders in the mega packs?
>>475 Pardon me, it's been a while since I last updated them. It's in their respective folders, AKA Feet, Eyes etc.
>>476 >bandwidth limits i really wish we'd stop using mega, using Mediafire or getting a torrent would be better
>>479 Well, it's just a bunch of pictures. Can't you use a proxy to get to them?
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>>480 I do have Tor and a VPN but I fucking hate Mega for making me have to switch it just to download a bunch of fucking JPGs. I'll probably download everything in the sticky one by one then make a megadrawpack and put it on Mediafire so no aspiring artist ever has to deal with this shit again.
>>482 It would be mighty useful, post it on the meta when you do
Where do you get your poses and references from?
>>513 Going outside for a walk, pictures, movies, reference books, reality.
>>513 Google images and some folders in which I've collected pictures I like over the years. There are a bunch of reference/model books in the resource hub too.
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The fuck does "feel the form" mean?
>>550 Ever played a videogame with really tight movement to the point you can practically play like it's second nature?
>>550 If you heard that in a video or read it in some kind of forum post and you don't understand what it means, then don't bother with it. You're not at that level yet. Just keep drawing and try rotating objects in your brain. Also learn how to construct forms. You learn that shit in Scott Robertsons. The pdf should be somewhere in here: https://mega.nz/#F!Y9AA1IpA!zXPbFOlubqEcOd75cZR1Eg https://mega.nz/#F!M8s0XYjB!mo_9uNAKJUnVD3Ne9X9vgg!04dD0JpA https://mega.nz/#F!es1BSKQR!spODyd0iaQmMelGA2GscFw https://mega.nz/#F!BXJkjSKI!ef2mMsm1mkj2nf3amonPEA
>>567 In Scott Robertsons "How to Draw"
This has more to do with character design, but what sort of legwear/socks would make a school uniform look rebellious? or imply that a character acts that way
>>605 I think they should be tattered or have smears as if to say "this gal got into more fights than you could handle". Traditional Sukeban characters also have waist high socks.
Does being good at drawing translate to making good 3DCG models?
>>646 They're not really the same kind of skill. It's probably really good for telling weight and shades, but I think it still requires its own fair share of time spent learning the basics.
1. Is Drawabox useful? I've been doing exercises from there since filling squares, lines and ellipses fills my autism. 2. Is proko useful or just a meme? I've seen him posted from time to time but I don't know if it was un or ironically
>>679 1. I don't know, seems to vary from person to person. I didn't like it myself, and I ended up learning the fundamentals from a couple other places. 2. Proko is unironically super useful.
>>679 Proko is useful for anatomy.
How the FUCK do poles draw so good?
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>going through Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain >got to drawing Igor upside down >while i'm drawing I can physically feel a strain on the right side of my head that I've never felt before >amazed that I could draw and that by not seeing I can truly see i'm gonna make it bros
>>715 Good job Anon. Keep going and finish the book!

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