/lang/ - Language Learning & Translations

For those who're yearnin' for a learnin'

Want your event posted here? Requests accepted in this /meta/ thread.

Max message length: 5120

Drag files to upload or
click here to select them

Maximum 5 files / Maximum size: 20.00 MB

More

(used to delete files and postings)


linguam latinam discere non potes Student 10/14/2019 (Mon) 02:22:53 ID: 7b811c No.76 [Reply] [Last]
Apologies to the BO for not having an image or resources like the ones you've been using
Use this thread to discuss, ask questions about, or share works of translation to/from the Latin Language.
>Resources
A good textbook to use for getting started from absolute zero is Lingua Latina: per se illustrata by Hans H. Orberg. I don't have a pdf - if an anon would post one that would be appreciated. It reduces your reliance on dictionaries by teaching words solely by context or by definitions using words you've already learned. (I find a dictionary is useful in spite of this.) If followed to its completion, the course of study found therein will take you to reading Caesar with relative confidence.

It's split into about 30 chapters, with a section for questions at the end of each. If you're serious about learning the language, do these on paper. Check your answers with the attached answer key, then tuck the paper away somewhere. Go over them from time to time.

There are two supplements to the book:
>Lingua Latina: per se illustrata - grammatica latina
It is a small handbook with tables of verb conjugations, noun declensions, pronouns, et cetera. A handbook of essential grammar. This is useful if you don't want to constantly google these things to remind yourself of them / practice them and would prefer a print version you can look at more easily. Otherwise, not worth getting.
>lingua latina per se illustrata - latine disco: student's manual
This is a small book that contains English companion explanations for each chapter, and an essential rundown of the concepts it introduced. Can be especially useful given that some concepts in the main chapter may have been introduced too subtly. If you feel that you may be too much of a brainlet to catch everything, or simply want some reinforcement of what you learned, it may be worth picking up.
In my own case, I got it when I was about halfway through the main book. It helped on some minor points, but overall wasn't that helpful. Google can cover most bases, in my experience.
I also have no pdfs for either of these.

If you're just starting out, you should consider being able to read Julius Caesar's commentarii de bello gallico as your long term goal. Once you reach this point, you'll be well on your way to reading the more significant works of Latin literature.
Attached are some additional easy reading materials for before you reach that point. Both should be about simple enough to read when you are half way (or so) through lingua latina. Due to filesize limits, they will be in the following posts.

There is also a forum on the internet that has a section competely devoted to Latin speaking. It's quite dead, but here's a link if you're interested.
http:// latindiscussion.com/forum/
47 posts and 63 images omitted.
>>153 I like him but all the 14 year olds who just learned about philosophy that won't shut up about him are bad for PR
Open file (545.63 KB 900x1273 1586534366578-0.png)
To the other anons in the thread who study Latin and have some competence with it: I would like to hear your thoughts and criticisms of the translation in this doujin: https://exhentai.org/g/1615535/46fa08ed09/
>>76 I want to cum inside the Latin language.
>>175 Many cancerous comments (as per usual for the site, unfortunately) and WOMEN DO NOT FUCKING BELONG IN MEN'S MILITARY GEAR HOLY SHIT MY VIRTUS.
>>204 >latin cum anon

Open file (159.38 KB 472x419 1503041170481.jpg)
Vous ne pouvez pas apprendre le Français Student 09/15/2019 (Sun) 11:05:22 ID: d0511c No.18 [Reply] [Last]
Thread dedicated to the French language

>Resources
Empty at the moment, will be updated
>What we need
Sites and resources to help newcomers learn the language
12 posts and 3 images omitted.
>>115
Camus has some good short books
>>160 I come from a romance language so sadly I'm already tired of the enlightened XXth century stuff. English has done good by me but I've dawdled on 'can't do' gutter for the French language, and I know there must be an amount of francophone works that I can enjoy just fine. This use case is also convenient with the current shut-in mandates across the globe. Thinking of trying Féval's 'La Vampyre', it's got an audiobook on Librivox.
>>166 based
https://julay.world/cl/ Suggesting this today before the culling, which will happen tomorrow. May download the whole thing and share them here, so that people can practice.
>>141 Peux tu me recommander des youtubers francaises?

Arabic Student 04/26/2020 (Sun) 18:12:34 ID: 2122c4 No.188 [Reply] [Last]
Let's have a thread for learning Arabic, for our /islam/ bros and everyone else who is interested. Arabic is a Semitic language that is spoken by over 200 million native speakers in 22 countries. It's also one of the six official languages of the UN. Arabic is classified as a Level 5 difficulty language by the Foreign Service Institute, meaning that an English speaker would need 88 weeks, or 2200 hours of learning to master it. So if you want to study Arabic, you'll need a lot of time, patience, and determination - but that goes for any language. The Arabic you'll be learning is most likely going to be Modern Standard Arabic, which is the modern descendant of the 6th century Classical Arabic. Actual spoken Arabic can vary widely from this standard, however. Some varieties are mutually unintelligible, but you should be good to go anywhere with MSA. Here's some resources: >Arabic lectures https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEmWUZanVYXEzZXYDHzD-iA https://www.youtube.com/user/CGEJordan/videos >Simple Arabic short stories https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7RpCYE5gLKF3Wus9QmIXHuy4p81lpaVA

Message too long. Click here to view full text.

>>188 Very nice, thanks, friend. I'll make a relevant YOUCANT girl asap One question though, are there any tricks to memorizing the writing? Like, nursery rhymes, rules of thumb etc.
>>189 I don't think there's any tricks apart from practice. Maybe try writing down a chart with all the letters, then try reading Arabic with it.
>>189 >Are there any tricks to memorizing the writing? Practice and lots of practice. When I was taught it in a college course they didn't give us any special ways to remember it. It was hard at first but I got used to it. I'm shit at Arabic though.

(242.38 KB 494x369 BuaQuezIUAA_T2C.png)
Student 09/08/2019 (Sun) 10:19:40 Id:1f0cc1 No. 2 [Reply]
This is the /int/ language learning wiki, it has general guides and guides on a bunch of languages.
https://4chanint.fandom.com/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

Also, here's a pastebin with some good resources.
https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua

Enjoy, and welcome to the Webring.
>>2
Thanks, brother! I'll be sure to update the list and create the relative threads.
good luck /lang/
>t- /robowaifu/
>>4
Thanks doc!
(830.62 KB 400x267 loveComputers.gif)
If anyone is interested here is a magnet for rosetta stone, a software for language learning, with install instructions included:
https://pastebin.com/EX3gaB2i

(116.18 KB 372x525 you can't learn esperanto.jpg)
Vi ne povas lerni Esperanton Student 09/18/2019 (Wed) 20:07:58 Id:6e4c8b No. 32 [Reply]
Thread dedicated to the Esperanto language (and all other ConLangs)

>Resources

>La Tua Esperanto
bWVnYS5uei8jIVhzdEVVWUpCIWdnc2tfZnNEXzZKUGprTHc5RzNRcGhIM2xJYkU4VXNtYmh0R1gwaEZMRUUgZGRkZA==
>What we need
Sites and resources to help newcomers learn the language

WE'RE DOING THIS MAN
Edited last time by AlphabetSoup on 09/18/2019 (Wed) 21:13:52.
1 post and 1 image omitted.
This is a genuine question: Why would I want to learn Esperanto?
>>40
We can't possibly answer that without knowing you. Personally I got interested in it because it is a constructed language that is actually used around the world with its own little history and culture, which I find fascinating. It really changed my perception of languages in general.

These days few people learn it because they expect world peace from an universal language. Some learn it because it is an easy language and they have been struggling with languages before, some learn it because it is easy and they want to add it to the languages they know, some do it as an excuse to socialize or travel, some learn it because it's a constructed language, and so on and so on. Everyone has their own reason and you will have to find your own.
>>40
There are many answers, some positive and some negative, to your question.
In my opinion, though, the reason is that the world needs more than a single lingua franca, other than English - because despite it being extremely easy to pick up and master, it does not adapt to the people that use it, but rather the people themselves have to adapt to the language. Not everyone can think in English. Esperanto aims, even if very loosely, at filling that semantic gap between different European languages, which is more than what English did with their loan words.

A secondary explanation is that it's just a language that will pick up steam immensely, probably to the point that it will be the fourth most spoken language in the world - as many Chinese and parts of its government expressed interest in using a language that is much easier to learn and get their point across with foreigners.
Then again, you may as well see these points as negative, as a conlang is only as useful as its users make it to be and how accessible it is to you.
(144.38 KB 660x880 cool-bunny6[1].jpg)
>>39
>You don't need to hide Seppik's book, it's freely available:
Ah, I see.
Sorry, I just feel it's a safer method for my items. I'll update the OP with your stuff, thank you very much, my dear friend.

(5.80 KB 229x220 images (21).jpeg)
Translations General Student 10/09/2019 (Wed) 10:02:52 Id:b2858f No. 71 [Reply]
Got anything needing to be translated? Are you making one yourself?
Subbing and fandubbing also appreciated.
1 post omitted.
>>74
A gyönyör, amikor beléd élveznek.
>>74
Il piacere di farsi venire dentro.
Typesetter, cleaner, and redrawer for Kouya ni Kemono Doukokusu here. If anyone needs any advice feel free to ask questions and I can teach you what I know.
>>132
What kind of program do you use to do all three? I've been dabbling with CS6 for a while but while the results can come from time to time, I have a hard time redrawing stuff and sometimes it's hard to hide the original text.
>>133
I pay for photoshop so it's up to date. You're basically missing content aware fill with CS6 as well as having a short list of most recent fonts used. CAF saves a ton of time not having to stitch everything by mouse. There's supposed to be an update to CAF this next patch for 2020 which may have already dropped but I haven't checked it yet. The recent fonts thing can be gotten around by using presets but I never use those because recent fonts is the same amount of clicks away but you might be able to set them up on CS6. Another thing I use that I'm not sure you can do in CS6 is an action which makes it much easier to clean bubbles. https://mega.nz/#F!174AGIYL!lABLbB3LKH9xFYk7qzSThg

That's the file that contains the action. You have to go to your photoshop folder/presets/actions/ and paste it in there. Then open up photoshop on a file you want to clean. There will be a tab next to your history tab called Actions. Click that. Look for the folder that says Bubble Mask. Click on the right arrow so it's a down arrow. Now just below that line is a line that says make bubble mask. Double click that and it will pop up a window to set the action to a button. You can set it to any function key and add ctrl and/or alt. I just use F12 as it's one simple key press and it's not obtrusive to any other function. Okay now bubble mask action is set up so what do you do with it? Use the magic wand tool on each bubble and once everything is selected hit F12 or whatever button you set it to and it will clean the bubbles for you. It's not perfect. sometimes you'll have to use other selection tools but as long as you have a bubble around all of the text selected you can hit the action button and make it all clean without using the pencil tool to clean every single character by hand. It's not perfect but it's the difference between an ink quill and a word processor.

What translators you nignigs use? Student 09/26/2019 (Thu) 20:37:32 No. 53 [Reply]
Jewgle translator fucking sucks, any proper alternatives? Bonus points for language specific translators.
Google is probably one of the best translators. That's why I don't use translators, just online dictionaries. You can only rely on translations of words, short phrases or very simple sentences.
>>53
Google translator is as bad as the translated snippets you give it. It's great for short sentences but anything further than that is a coin toss.
To explain what's wrong with it, basically, GT looks online for people who have already translated that given document or for pages that have similar metadata and applies a very small state machine translation, whereas other websites like babelfish used to have extensive and very complex algorithms that would try and replicate human speech.
Problem is, the former solution is much faster than the latter, and the big G knows that its users want to waste as little time as possible, at the expense of precision. Machine learning may at some point give us good translators that don't take forever, but it's pretty hard.
>>54
>>55
Thanks for the info, seems dicts are still the only thing reliable. Btw any other sources like https://jisho.org for other non latin script langs?
>>53
for German I use https://www.deepl.com I used both google translate and Deepl a lot for making anki decks and I can say that Deepl is much better, at least in German (I believe the team behind it is German)

Arabic Student 09/13/2019 (Fri) 03:27:34 Id:0c1975 No. 10 [Reply]
What is the best way to learn Arabic, specifically Yemeni dialect of it.
From speaking to the /islam/ folk, they suggested avoiding Islamic TV as it is often confusing and fast paced.

(92.98 KB 772x525 1503805441640.jpg)
English Learning and Skills Refining Student 09/15/2019 (Sun) 11:00:46 Id:6d73fe No. 16 [Reply]
It has come to my attention that many (myself included) are not Anglosphere natives. As such, it would make perfect sense having a thread dedicated to perfecting English as a second language.

>Resources
Empty at the moment, will be updated
>What we need
Sites and resources to help foreigners learn the language

Report/Delete/Moderation Forms
Delete
Report

Captcha (required for reports and bans by board staff)

no cookies?