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Banner Thread Student 09/18/2019 (Wed) 23:12:05 ID: c703c4 No.38 [Reply] [Last]
Got any ideas for a good one? Help me make this board a little more colorful!
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>>180 cool
>>181 added, thank you so much
>>296 >Forgot to scale it by half before posting At least it's the right aspect ration and under the file size
>>296 Added, thank you very much!

Who inspires you to learn languages? Student 09/27/2019 (Fri) 17:09:55 ID: e1e446 No.57 [Reply] [Last]
for me it's Cardinal Giuseppe Mezzofanti.

Mezzofanti was well known for being a hyperpolyglot who according to Russell 1858 spoke at least thirty languages with rare excellence
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Wasn't he the guy who wanted to translate the bible to every single language?
many people would come and want to speak with the pope, my understanding it that he was a interpreter.
And there's people who were curious and spoke directly with him, thus cementing his linguistic prowess, and at the highest level possible: speaking with a native.

i had a webpage with a book with all the info you could possibly want about him, but for the life of me i cant find it.

this answers anything you would need to know.
That actually sounds plausible and is pretty cool.
>>62 Looks like you'll be able to find out for yourself, Student. https://archive.org/details/lifeofcardinalme00russ

Tough words crossboarder scum 07/15/2020 (Wed) 12:24:32 No.263 [Reply] [Last]
A thread for words that just don't make sense to you. Any language. Video semi-unrelated.
It's not that it doesn't make sense to me, but for the life of me I can never remember the correct reading of "別れる". It's my biggest leech in Anki. It would probably be better if I had learned the Kanji 別, but it hasn't come up in my Kanji deck yet.

Student 09/12/2019 (Thu) 12:42:01 ID: f6757e No.5 [Reply] [Last]
What languages are you learning? Italian here, I've been at it for about two years.
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Still learning Japanese. I believe it I can pass JLPT2, but I'll aim for JLPT1 next exam. Also, I am learning Hebrew, since I want to specialize in comparative Semitic linguistics. I learned a bit about Russian. Russian made me realize how important phonology is and after it I grabbed like 3 introduction books and got hooked up. Autosegmental Phonology is fucking terrific.

Yeah the thing is I am getting sidetracked by reading about theoretical linguistics which reduces my time to learn the other languages. Not to mention laziness and playing vidya that isn't Japanese isn't helping.
Anyone has any lusophone guides?
You mean, to learn BR Portuguese?
Exactly. I think most courses have finished inscription now.
Spanish, Japanese, and German I've reached a relatively high level in Spanish and mostly keep up with it by reading and doing a vocabulary deck. I spend the most time with Japanese when it comes to actually learning. My progress with German has been slow and shitty because I hate the textbook I'm using and can hardly bring myself to slog through it. >>6 >Explanation as to why they're used today As you probably know, Japanese doesn't use spaces. For most words, this isn't a problem; content words are (usually) written (at least partially) in Kanji, and grammatical morphemes are written in hiragana. This works well; native Japanese speakers prefer it over other kinds of writing because they say it helps them understand passages faster, and I have come to agree with that. But for loan words, this is more complicated. You can try to write them in Kanji based on their meaning, and Japanese people used to do this, but because Kanji have a relatively fixed set of ways they can be read outside of using them this way, they usually lead to confusion about pronunciation. You can try writing them in Kanji based on those readings, but this leads to confusion about meanings. Luckily, Japanese has two sets of phonetic characters: hiragana and katakana. Originally they were more or less equivalent to cursive versus print; i.e. they had no difference in meaning and were simply used by different social groups (women tended to be the primary users of hiragana), but over time they were relegated to different functions. Hiragana is used for grammatical morphemes and native or sino-chinese words if not otherwise written in Kanji. Katakana is mainly used for recent foreign words for which there is no Kanji, which combines the benefits of separating semantic and grammatical content that native words have with the benefits of not leading to confusion in pronunciation or meaning. Katakana is also often used to distinguish onomatopoeia-words, and can be used to replace Kanji or hiragana spellings in some contexts to convey emphasis or a casual tone. >>7 Japanese people feel strongly that Kanji-kana mixed script is, overall, better for reading once you've learned it, even if it's harder to learn at first. The fact that it separates the content words from the grammar words very clearly without spacing them out is probably the reason for that, and as far as I know there is some evidence that it actually does make a difference. Also, Japanese is a language with a lot of (near) homophones. In speech they are (partially) disambiguated by pitch accent, but even kana doesn't represent represent that in writing, and even if they did, it wouldn't solve the problem completely and a lot of homonyms would be created.

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Student 04/22/2020 (Wed) 17:08:09 ID: c905e3 No.176 [Reply] [Last]
I'm very interested in learning a few languages. How bad of an idea would it be to attempt to learn multiple languages at once? On top of that, is there anything I need to know before I attempt this?
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>>176 It's gonna jumble up your brains real hard. The thing is, learning a language isn't about just finding the right words at the right time. You truly learnt a language when you can start thinking with that particular language and thoughts form coherently in your head. Basically, use the learning experience to expand your words' expressive power. A ton of concepts that work in a language don't necessarily work in another, but doing two or more languages at the same time will just confuse you.
>>177 >>184 >>186 Alright, I won't attempt to learn multiple at the same time as it will bring more trouble than it's worth. It's a very tempting idea though. Thank you for your input. To be honest I haven't done much, if any research on languages if it isn't clear by the question in the OP. Japanese and Latin are what I'm interested in and I'm stuck at choosing one. I'm interested in Latin because I want to be able to read Latin works in their native language and I've been told that knowing Latin improves your English. I want to learn Japanese because I want to archive materials that nobody else cares to archive due to the language barrier and the Japanese's lack of care towards archival.
>>187 >Latin and Japanese Pretty much the same as me then. I took up Latin a couple years ago after some anons encouraged me. In the intermediary, I took some German classes in college and got a decent grip on that as well, on a very basic level. I'm pretty much done with German now and back to focusing on Latin again. What handful of phrases and whatnot I know in Japanese I've learned exclusively through osmosis, from watching an ungodly amount of anime. The point of this blogpost is that multiple languages won't screw you up too hard if you space them out and devote certain stretches of time to a language exclusively. But why do that in the first place? Why not just grind out a language over a couple years, and move on to the next when you're competent enough to only need occasional practice? If you decide to start with Latin, there are a bunch of resources in the Latin thread >>76. If you start with Japanese, here's a pdf that gets passed around often. I haven't read it myself, though.
if they are different enough, then you shouldn't have too much trouble. I've been learning Japanese and German at the same time and it hasn't given me any trouble. The most important thing is that they sound different, I think. Even though I already basically knew Spanish completely by the time I started studying Japanese, I still sometimes mix up words that have about the same meaning and could occur in either language phonologically, e.g. I sometimes mix up "pero" and "demo" (but never aber. >>187 imo, Latin and Japanese are probably different enough that you can learn them both without too much difficulty. You probably wouldn't ever have trouble with morphology or syntax because the two use completely different morphological strategies; if you have any problem with vocabulary it would probably with indeclinable words like "tamen"
>>186 Not only that but there's also the matter of immersion and limited time. To learn a language you have to dedicate an enormous amount of time to things besides your studying and homework. Listening to music from that country, movies, youtube videos, constantly reading material. All these things are crucial to learning, and to calcifying what you studied - to truly be able to 'feel' the language. Because of the sheer amount of time this takes I also think it's not a good idea to attempt two languages at once unless you're super smart/extremely dedicated/disciplined. Although it might be easier if the two languages were very similar. For example learning Italian and Spanish would be a hell of a lot easier than learning Russian and Japanese, I think. Because of the amount of memorization involved with radically different language structures. Already knowing the alphabet already puts you miles ahead of the game.

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你不能学中文 Student 09/15/2019 (Sun) 21:53:13 Id:e7409d No. 20 [Reply]
Thread dedicated to the Chinese language

Chinese With Ease
>What we need
Sites and resources to help newcomers learn the language
Edited last time by AlphabetSoup on 09/19/2019 (Thu) 19:57:40.
updated resources

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Dialects Student 10/10/2019 (Thu) 23:53:56 ID: 5972f2 No.72 [Reply] [Last]
Let's say anon learns Japanese and travels to Osaka. Wouldn't he be better off knowing Kansai dialect to fit in more, /lang/?
Also how do I get my southern drawl? I've been here since birth and it shows, Thing Is, I didn't develop my southern drawl due to little exposure. I take pride in my heritage and that underdeveloped drawl is making me feel like a fag. What do I do?
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>>218 >I will never be considered German by native speakers Are you sure about that? niggers and arabs are.
>>218 And what does it matter? You're you, and it's great enough, I think.
>>218 Germany is cucked. They will never consider you a German, but they do the filthy Turk roaches occupying your land.
>>220 >>247 funny posts by funny people
>>218 I'm German and would consider you German, as would most Germans. Only a few Germans will openly say it but deep down your race counts not how you speak. There could be a lot of things people won't like about you but your German blood is not in question.

中文/普通话 Student 09/14/2019 (Sat) 21:08:05 ID: 1e607e No.13 [Reply] [Last]
I've been learning Mandarin at a slow speed but it's fun. I'm learning simplified characters. If you're learning Mandarin or another Chinese language talk about it here.
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Why would you want to learn the barbarian tongue of a race of cannibal dog eaters, anon?
>>209 China has existed for thousands of years and arguably has some interesting history that can enrich the world. The fact that inbred mongrels are part of its total population is irrelevant to that. Besides, if you dislike them, knowing what they're saying behind your back is reason enough to know some Flurunes.
>>27 based and truthpilled
/sino/ pastebin with some links for Mandarin, Cantonese, Hokkien, Wu, and Uyghur: https://pastebin.com/KpgEG6G9 Anyone have any resources for Hakka?

An announcement Student 05/04/2020 (Mon) 09:14:08 ID: 9b979b No.194 [Reply] [Last]
I was planning on making a small clearnet IB containing several Self Improvement boards, including this one. How interested would you be in moving there?
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>>210 The plan is still WIP since I'm reading up how to set up things properly but it would consist mainly of one or more of the following: >/sig/ >/lang/ >/loomis/ >/fit/ >/lit/ (possibly including a /pdf/ or share board of sorts?) >/mu/ >/diy/ >/tech/ >/3d/ >/agdg/ >/sci/ >/ecopol/ (not really interested in the ideological aspect but they had some real nice topics regarding cultivation and farming) I feel that with all the hobbyists boards around here, any time a webring website goes down it takes with them the two-three comfy educational places that come with it and I'd rather keep them all bundled together in a non-Esther-attacked place. I would still join the webring all the same but expect a different, more relaxed kind of experience (still with lax rules).
>>210 Would proper /ck/ and /his/ be considered?
>>212 Sure, if there's enough demand for it that is.
>>211 >/ecopol/ (not really interested in the ideological aspect but they had some real nice topics regarding cultivation and farming) Make a gardening or botanist board instead?
>>211 Well, i'll go whenever you set it up

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Student 03/09/2020 (Mon) 14:28:41 ID: f34e33 No.161 [Reply] [Last]
What's the language you regret learning the most? Everyone has that moment when they realize doing something was a bad idea, but it was too late to go back.
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Portugays. Learned it on a whim before becoming redpilled. Implying blue pills don't know what kind of shithole Brazil is. No ragrats though; I might need a southam lang one day.
Definitely Japanese.
>>169 I fucking hate Brazil for its relevancy over Portugal. Same to some extent when it comes to the Spanish language in burgerland, where everyone immediately thinks of Mexicans. I mean, no one does it for England and the US, what a joke. >>196 Why?
>>206 Took forever, I'll never get those years back, and I don't even play as many JRPGs these days, because it feels like work to me now. If I play in Japanese, I'll inevitably encounter new words and have to look up the words besides, I read Japanese a lot slower than English.
>>208 Did you even learn it...

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