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Thread directory Rikki Board owner 12/06/2021 (Mon) 20:11:18 ID: 321f2a No.554 [Reply]
Languages 🇸🇦 Arabic >>188 🇨🇳 Chinese >>20 🇬🇧 English >>16 🟩 Esperanto >>32 🇫🇷 French >>18 🇩🇪 German >>30 🇯🇵 Japanese >>33 🏛️ Latin >>76 🇵🇹 Portuguese >>486 🇷🇺 Russian >>21 🇸🇰 Slovak >>442 🇪🇸 Spanish >>266
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Advice on machine translation Student 03/15/2023 (Wed) 05:46:45 No.683 [Reply]
I am making a computer video tutorial for setting up free open source tool, used worldwide. I assume it would be best to write the transcript in English my only fluent language, and use a machine-translation tool to automatically generate captions for many other languages, until someone volunteers to write up a better caption to replace it. Ideally, I would use (the program running behind the scenes on) one of these two: https://libretranslate.com/ https://beta.apertium.org/ How good are these? Try changing them to a language you know (I understand the selection is limited) and tell me how it turns out. A basic English->Spanish->English seems to work fine on this post, with the first site looking a bit better. Also, if you have any advice for writing sentences which are translated more correctly by a machine, that would be excellent! All I can think of is writing formally, and trying to avoid words with multiple common meanings (e.g. replacing 'check' with 'confirm')
>>683 I don't have any real advice for you Anon other than to maybe look into how publishers tackle the problem. Software companies also must have similar needs. I don't know if any lanugage-translation experts are there, but /robowaifu/ also deals with automation and languages too. Good luck OP!
>>684 Thanks fellow student, I know /robowaifu/ is a great resource for all things machine-learning, but I didn't think to ask about languages!
>>685 Nprb. Mind sharing the idea behind your opensauce tool mentioned? Who's likely to benefit from using it?
>>686 It's not my tool, it's just a Blender 3D modeling add-on and other setup for people modding SuperTuxKart.

你不能学中文 Student 09/15/2019 (Sun) 21:53:13 ID: e7409d No.20 [Reply]
Thread dedicated to the Chinese language

Chinese With Ease
>What we need
Sites and resources to help newcomers learn the language
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>>255 doesnt works
>>31 I thought they mostly spoke Mandarin in Taiwan. Albeit written int raditional characters
>>592 Yeah, I'm pretty sure they do.
>中文線 >一句中國話都沒有 這兒的人是不是真的對中文有興趣?
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>>20 我喜欢非常大咪咪

Вы не можете выучить русский язык Student 09/15/2019 (Sun) 21:54:28 ID: 285982 No.21 [Reply]
Thread dedicated to the Russian language

Russian With Ease
>What we need
Sites and resources to help newcomers learn the language
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>>656 fuck plebbit
What isn't dead?
>>630 >how different/hard would you say it is compared to English and my native tongue Pretty much the exact opposite in most aspects. Russian is regarded as one of the hardest languages to learn in the world. In all fairness, it's arguably the only one worth learning out of those other languages due to them being irrelevant gookshit, and Finnish. The main hardship in learning Russian is the complex and intricate system of padeji or grammatical cases, as well as declensions. Imagine that every single object in existence has either a masculine, a feminine or a neutral form and you must know by heart how to instantly declinate it in a sentence. >but I forgot that the accent heavily varies all across Russia What are you talking about? Russian doesn't have accents. At best there's a slight "southern drawl" but even that is a stretch. Russian is specifically regarded as being universal across the entirety of the country, where anyone can fully understand each other, unlike most of Europe where there are insane accents and dialects across regions. >Most people also don't speak entirely gramatically correct Russian The fuck are you talking about? Everyone in Russia speaks grammatically correct Russian.
Russian with ease is a pretty handy resource
Вы всех пидорас)))

linguam latinam discere non potes Student 10/14/2019 (Mon) 02:22:53 ID: 7b811c No.76 [Reply] [Last]
Apologies to the BO for not having an image or resources like the ones you've been using
Use this thread to discuss, ask questions about, or share works of translation to/from the Latin Language.
A good textbook to use for getting started from absolute zero is Lingua Latina: per se illustrata by Hans H. Orberg. I don't have a pdf - if an anon would post one that would be appreciated. It reduces your reliance on dictionaries by teaching words solely by context or by definitions using words you've already learned. (I find a dictionary is useful in spite of this.) If followed to its completion, the course of study found therein will take you to reading Caesar with relative confidence.

It's split into about 30 chapters, with a section for questions at the end of each. If you're serious about learning the language, do these on paper. Check your answers with the attached answer key, then tuck the paper away somewhere. Go over them from time to time.

There are two supplements to the book:
>Lingua Latina: per se illustrata - grammatica latina
It is a small handbook with tables of verb conjugations, noun declensions, pronouns, et cetera. A handbook of essential grammar. This is useful if you don't want to constantly google these things to remind yourself of them / practice them and would prefer a print version you can look at more easily. Otherwise, not worth getting.
>lingua latina per se illustrata - latine disco: student's manual
This is a small book that contains English companion explanations for each chapter, and an essential rundown of the concepts it introduced. Can be especially useful given that some concepts in the main chapter may have been introduced too subtly. If you feel that you may be too much of a brainlet to catch everything, or simply want some reinforcement of what you learned, it may be worth picking up.
In my own case, I got it when I was about halfway through the main book. It helped on some minor points, but overall wasn't that helpful. Google can cover most bases, in my experience.
I also have no pdfs for either of these.

If you're just starting out, you should consider being able to read Julius Caesar's commentarii de bello gallico as your long term goal. Once you reach this point, you'll be well on your way to reading the more significant works of Latin literature.
Attached are some additional easy reading materials for before you reach that point. Both should be about simple enough to read when you are half way (or so) through lingua latina. Due to filesize limits, they will be in the following posts.

There is also a forum on the internet that has a section competely devoted to Latin speaking. It's quite dead, but here's a link if you're interested.
http:// latindiscussion.com/forum/
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>>627 ceterum censeo mātrem tuam esse delendam
>>493 Italiā* >>618 Is this a Latin dictionary in Latin? Or an English-Latin dictionary?
>>651 English-Latin dictionary.
To anyone looking for resources for pronunciation, immersion, et cetera, there's a youtube channel that uploads many readings with (what I believe to be) good pronunciation. I wondered, for a long time, what Latin poetry is actually supposed to sound like when read in meter, and this channel has many examples of that. There's a lot of superfluous, normalfag-bait type stuff, but he also has excellent readings of Lingua Latina per se illustrata, as well as readings of certain works of Latin literature. For example, the first book of Ars Amatoria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svdLEkEbl_g
>>83 Thank you my good individual. Your generosity is greatly appreciated. I am especially grateful for the audio files.

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Tú no puedes aprender el español Student 07/16/2020 (Thu) 05:30:14 ID: 3dc1e8 No.266 [Reply]
This thread is dedicated to learning the Spanish Language >Resources A lot of these are placeholders until we get some better suited purpose; please suggest any other resources you use or know about. >Flash cards https://apps.ankiweb.net/ - if you don't already have it, download anki for your flashcards. You can search through user generated, premade decks here https://ankiweb.net/shared/decks/spanish, but you can also create your own as you go along a different program >Dictionaries https://www.spanishdict.com/ - a multi-use tool for Spanish. Includes a fairly sized dictionary with pronunciation, a conjugation tool for verbs, and grammar lessons with quizes. It also has forums hidden away at https://www.spanishdict.com/answers https://www.wordreference.com/es/translation.asp - another dictionary that is slightly more expansive. It also has a conjugation tool and forums as well. It has more pronunciation and conjugation information for dialects outside of Castilian and than Spanishdict. https://www.wiktionary.org/ - an open source multilingual dictionary. In theory this is a resource for any language, but it is particularly good for learning Spanish. It has a lot of Spanish words, including obscure ones, and offers more information on dialectical differences in vocabulary than anywhere else. It also has a conjugation tool for verbs, and organizes them into conjugation classes well. >Learning resources https://studyspanish.com/ - Has a payed program, but offers almost everything besides some practice exercises for free on the website. It has a series of pronunciation lessons, grammar lessons, and vocabulary sets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_phonology & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_orthography pages containing detailed but technical descriptions of spanish pronunciation and writing. Not targeted to learners in the slightest, but very informative if you can undestand them. >What we need <More additional comprehensive learning resources, such as textbooks <Reading and listening material

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>>428 >>429 yeah I can definitely hear the difference in all of them. must be something u get with listening practice
>>425 >>428 bit late but I'll reply. I do hear the difference, especially in the first case. However, it's not that weird to hear the d in "admisión" pronounced as a z, same thing goes for the g in "fragmentario", you'll hear it often pronounced as j.
>>266 How does someone pronounce the "ll" correctly? Is it like Ly?
>>622 It's like a Gee in american english or Yi in chinaman. You meant "Ll" right? Word "Llano" would be something like Yah-Noh but without the very small "i" vocalization at the beginning that the Y makes. Also it's a matter of accent too, Cono Sur inhabitants spell it almost whispering which renders a sound similar to "Sh" (as in "shush!" or "shadow") while others, depending on the region, jump its pronunciation and you end up hearing something similar to an i as in the american english "Ee". So rather than Llano/Yah-Noh sometimes it will sound like Ee-Ah-Noh with some cold tongue folks while Conosur people spell it like Shah-Noh. I much rather have those silly distortions than having the ambiguity of vocals in the entire english language that, depending on the accent, can distort it into a Llena which is more confusing for the spanish-speakers thus the eternal confusion with anglo tourists.
I just come to appreciate how the most intrincate/specific of conjugations can be readily identified by native speakers, and be a total bitch for learners. Example: >consideraríamos, que consideraras. It's especially fun when doing that with long outlandish or simply made-up verbs. Here's an example of a popular sort of tongue-twister template, specific rendition from a popular yt channel (El robot de Platón) where the phrase 'pan con jamon' (bread and ham) is turned into a (obviously nonsensical) verb: >X ha sido panconjamonizado, quién lo despanconjamonizará? El que lo despanconjamonice, buen despanconjamonizador será. Have fun.

Arabic Student 04/26/2020 (Sun) 18:12:34 ID: 2122c4 No.188 [Reply]
Let's have a thread for learning Arabic, for our /islam/ bros and everyone else who is interested. Arabic is a Semitic language that is spoken by over 200 million native speakers in 22 countries. It's also one of the six official languages of the UN. Arabic is classified as a Level 5 difficulty language by the Foreign Service Institute, meaning that an English speaker would need 88 weeks, or 2200 hours of learning to master it. So if you want to study Arabic, you'll need a lot of time, patience, and determination - but that goes for any language. The Arabic you'll be learning is most likely going to be Modern Standard Arabic, which is the modern descendant of the 6th century Classical Arabic. Actual spoken Arabic can vary widely from this standard, however. Some varieties are mutually unintelligible, but you should be good to go anywhere with MSA. Here's some resources: >Arabic lectures https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEmWUZanVYXEzZXYDHzD-iA https://www.youtube.com/user/CGEJordan/videos >Simple Arabic short stories https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7RpCYE5gLKF3Wus9QmIXHuy4p81lpaVA

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It says "anon cafe" in Arabic.
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>>189 >I'll make a relevant YOUCANT girl asap Not this anon but here she is, finally purified.
>>616 Remind me again, what is that structure to the left and is it related to a mosque?
>>617 That'd be a minaret, from which the call to prayer is given
>>613 anon wtf, so bad

Welcome to /lang/, home of all languages! Student Board owner 09/08/2019 (Sun) 09:48:19 ID: dc127b No.1 [Reply] [Last]
This board is a continuation of various smaller boards from 8ch dedicated to learning new languages, translating documents from one to another and overall just having fun with other anons in the ultimate pursuit of universal knowledge. RULES 1. Global Rules apply here. 2. English is the preferred language outside of threads strictly dedicated to a particular language. 3. Be courteous to other anons, as this is a SFW board. 4. Any material that you have that could be useful to other anons, please, share it! Having videos and resources helps immensely! 5. Our bunker shall be located on https://blablaworld.biz/lang/ but this is to be considered the main board. 6. This thread can be used as a META thread of sorts, so voice all your language related concerns here!
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>>671 It's up but kind of on the backburner for me as I'm dealing with stuff. just use it as a bunker or something, whoever still comes to this board.
>>672 OK. Does this board related to 4-ch.net/language as it have the same CSS ?
>>673 *same CSS as blablaworld
>>673 Nope. That's just what Kareha looks like.
>>675 OK thanks for clarifying.

Vi ne povas lerni Esperanton Student 09/18/2019 (Wed) 20:07:58 ID: 6e4c8b No.32 [Reply]
Thread dedicated to the Esperanto language (and all other ConLangs)


>La Tua Esperanto
>What we need
Sites and resources to help newcomers learn the language

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Project Gutenberg has many ebooks in esperanto, including some really good textbooks such as the one by Ivy Kellerman
Speaking of conlangs has anyone tried Volapuk?
It's a language that I would want to try as a challenge, although I will probably die only speaking it on random places in internet.
>>541 volapuko estas volapuke, t.e. malfacile lerni kaj uzi
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Vous ne pouvez pas apprendre le Français Student 09/15/2019 (Sun) 11:05:22 ID: d0511c No.18 [Reply]
Thread dedicated to the French language >Resources TV5 Monde's free French language program https://langue-francaise.tv5monde.com/ Complete French Grammar by Fraser and Squair https://archive.org/details/completefrenchgr00fras/mode/2up Progressive French exercises, principally on verbs by J Reynaud de Lamartinière https://archive.org/details/progressivefren00lamagoog/mode/2up Chardenal's French exercises for advanced pupils https://archive.org/details/chardenalsfrenc00chargoog/mode/2up Grammar exercises https://www.lepointdufle.net/p/grammaire.htm

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>>655 Hey je n'ai pas souvenir d'avoir posté ça. Merci de faire suivre le lien anon. Venez papoter dans la langue de Molière sur La putain de _Planche_ les amis ! >t. proprio de La Planche
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>>531 >Acrimonie Putain mine de rien elle me manque cette planche.
>>658 Pour info, mais rien n'est acté pour le moment je prévois de déménager sur le café sous un nouveau nom (nom un peu trouvé au pif lors d'une rêverie). Ma demande est en attente de traitement sur le fil /meta/ idoine. >pourquoi quitter 8chan ? Pour diverses raisons éthiques, notamment la proximité avec des boards un tantinet déviantes (je ne critique pas mais je pense que ça peut rebuter les primo-arrivants). Le background historique également. L'imposition d'un thème dégueulasse en lien avec le gamergate dernièrement m'a tout de même pas mal motivé. >pourquoi sur anon.cafe? C'est une IB que je visite régulièrement et dont j'apprécie l'esprit général, certaines planches bien que lentes sont trés confites (relax). >pourquoi un nouveau nom ? Envie d'une identité plus marquée, apporter un univers propre plutôt qu'un simple clone francisé au rabais. >pourquoi avoir débuté sur 8chan? Un peu dans la précipitation je l'avoue à la suite de la fermeture des dernières planches francophones. L'ouverture de boards n'étant pas soumise à approbation ça m'a permis de me faire la main et d'expérimenter sur divers aspects du boulot de BO sans trop me casser la tête. >et si anon.cafe refuse d'héberger cet espace ? J'en serais un peu attristé certes, je chercherais d'autres solutions (j'en suis pas encore à héberger ma propre planche). Peut-être trouver un nouveau chan. Supprimer La Planche et repartir sur des bases propres. >La Planche est morte, pourquoi ça marcherait ici ? J'ai fait très peu de publicité pour La Planche jusqu'à présent (entre-autre pour les raisons citées plus haut), voyez-là comme une ébauche. Aussi je ne fréquente que très peu de communautés francophones généralistes et je n'aime pas le tapage. Je compte sur le bouche à oreille (même si j'en ai conscience, les Français ne sont pas nécessairement de grands utilisateurs d'imageboards) et préfère miser sur la qualité que la quantité. Affaire à suivre.
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>>667 Voilà. L'Entremonde. >>>/ent/ Je peaufine encore quelques trucs côté esthétique mais en l'état ça fait le café.

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