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The Arena Nene Seal Board owner 09/11/2021 (Sat) 13:04:08 No.2
Welcome to the arena. Despair, ye who enter here. The arena is something of a venting thread. If you have beef with another anon or with a specific vtuber that is getting out-of-hand, you may have discussion moved to this thread. If you want to discuss negative or obtuse meta content of a vtuber such as a boyfriend fuck list or actual pictures of the actress, you must do it here, or on a different board/website. This thread is still moderated, however rules 0 and 6 do not apply here. Have at each other to your heart's content. Please hide this thread by default if this is content you do not wish to see. I would hide it too, if I had the choice. If anon ever gets to the point where he's exclusively only lurking this thread, new rules may come up. At the end of the day, your oshi is a real girl. She may show gratitude and appreciate her fans, but she does not love you. EDIT: As a reminder, please familiarize yourself with the Global Rules of anon.cafe as Romania has laws regarding unlawful violation of privacy and doxxing that this site is beholden to. Should you choose to personally investigate matters, you do so at your own risk. My legal take on this unless the site owner disagrees and corrects me, is that if the information was publicly available at one time, then it does not fall under the Romanian criminal code unless a request for deletion is submitted since it falls under the internet's default fair use license honored by most countries. Should I receive an email or be forwarded such a "DMCA" request, I will post a copy (with names and personal details expunged of course) for transparency in-thread after removing the offending content.
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How many vtubers are fat irl? Polka and Okayu though I suspect she may have lost some weight since joining Hololive are confirmed fatties and I think Mio, Reine and Himawari are fat as well but I have yet to confirm this. Matsuri used to be fat but slimmed down before becoming a vtuber. You'd think a lot of the Holo/Niji EN girls would be fat considering most of them are American weebs who never leave the house but, to my knowledge, there's no evidence of that being the case.
>>38 I'm not sure about fatties, but a lot of vtubers have eating disorders. That's part of why the ones who tried to become idols struggled in a lot of cases.
>>46 >Tells all of Gen2 to ignore chat Mumei really hates chat, doesn't she? Why does she hate her fanbase so much?
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Why do you prefer virtual livers instead of the real deal‽ What is so cool about a liver that doesn't do anything for you, and is just a digital illusion‽
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>>62 Honestly I exclusively watch virtual youtubers. About 70% of my intake is Hololive with the rest being VOMs, special-case corporate tubers like Yokato or VTuber mamas (artists), a couple Nijis I check once in a blue moon, and indies. I would feel conceited saying virtual youtubers are the entire market, though. More importantly when Nijisanji coined the term "バーチャルライバー" the connotation of this new term was that virtual content creators are not tied down by any one website and can come from anywhere. tl;dr- all Virtual Youtubers are also Virtual Livers by default if they livestream, but not all virtual livers are virtual youtubers.
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>>62 >>64 Also I'm an idiot for not looking at the picture first.
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It is incredible how you can sensibly approach the ITL thing by making a dedicated thread. Kudos to admin for not making this cuckchan. Have some IRL sex copter pic.
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Which holo is the least menhera?
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>>128 Subaru is the biggest normalfag, but Ayame is probably the least insane holo. Her and Roboco.
>>69 That's a Korean ladyboy.
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Might as well post these. Any more up to date facedox collages would be greatly appreciated. I'm pretty sure the Korone picture here is 5-10 years out of date.
>>149 All qts
>>149 It's funny looking at some of the girls and noticing that whoever made this intentionally picked out the ugliest image of the girl that they could find (relative to other online pictures of their 3D identity). Almost as if the 4channer who made it had an agenda.
>>163 I think those are from 5ch. Also, I've seen far less flattering pictures of them floating around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yftX7xBeyGA So apparently if you've been a member of a channel for at least two months, you can send one free supachat per month. I like that youtube added that since a lot of more popular livestreamers (like holos) only respond to supachats and this tricks them, but on the flip side I see a lot of long-game antis popping up around December/January if that's the case.
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>Channel owner has to enable it Ah, nevermind. Now Cover will be forced to pass a policy banning all of their streamers from using it because it will reveal which girls are greedy bitches and which aren't causing the greedy bitches to bitch to corporate about their members trolling them.
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>>163 It's pretty standard, for ENs too.
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>>2 Who do you think will be the next major chuuba to graduate? Matsuri seems like she's been on a downward spiral ever since the Haachama fiasco. I thought for sure it was over for her after black hand incident. >>128 Probably one of the ones who comes across as middle-of-the-road in terms of mental stability. The ones that seem the most normal are probably hiding all kinds of mental issues. Look A-Chan and her fetish for being vored by King Dedede.
>>362 Depends. Matuli's fans are cucked from apex and her NTR fetish, so she can probably get away with all sorts of nasty stuff. If it's due to personal reasons, I could see Pekora, Flare, or Haato graduating due to differences with the company. If it's because of a scandal, only Noel's very real-life shota fetish which is about to be exacerbated soon with the death of her hamsters and a shota moving in with her mom or Ollie's well-known fetish for masturbating and having sex while live come to mind. HoloEN2 has room for scandals, but I don't think those will happen for at least another 6 months or more. It's hard to judge EN since everyone thought Kiara's SJW antics would get her shitcanned but she's still around and has significantly improved since her debut while keeping that under wraps. If it's due to Youtube shutting a channel down permanently, only Marine is at risk of that in recent months and she's worked hard to avoid that bad end.
And obviously that's only covering Homolive. I can't speak for the entire vtuber scene.
>>363 Considering what Marine has openly said about her shotacon phase that she pretends she's not still in, Noel will be fine unless she holds the kid down and rapes him.
>>344 >I have my own interpretation of why but that should go in the arena so I'll withhold judgement. Don't keep us hanging!
>>402 It’s probably something to do with the rumors that she has a boyfriend. There was a minor controversy about that when she debuted . I haven’t looked into it too much so I don’t know if there’s any truth to it. Personally, I don’t really mind that sort of thing as long they don’t talk about it on stream since I’m just there to watch them play a character. But if you’re actually giving money to a chuuba and developing a parasocial relationship her (which isn’t healthy but that’s a whole other can of worms) then I could see how that would make you upset.
>>405 No the boyfriend thing is understood to be happening with all of them or at least most of them. A woman with that much free time (when they aren't getting ready for concerts) is going to have that problem in all walks of life. >>402 Mumei is not into Japanese culture in any meaningful way past whatever aired on Toonami. She is past her prime based on the shows she watched growing up (born in the 90s), and she signed up for Holo in the hopes of easy money while going to college. Her fans legitimately scare her because she doesn't understand Otaku culture. Imagine Subaru when she started, but without even the Japanese connection to help fans with corrupting her into otaku culture. Her understanding of idols is sub-par at best, and her main redeeming quality is the fact that she is legitimately autistic, and braindead from school/no sleep which allows her autism to manifest in fun and interesting ways. It's not that Mumei is irredeemable, but she is an autist in normalfag's clothing trying to not be autistic when her fans would appreciate it much more if she just acted autistic without sleep deprivation or pressure situations.
>>362 Noel earns more on roommate than as Holo, not to mention she is creative enough that she could make a new persona if that fails, and she seems to have enough money saved up to survive the starting phase, especially now that she bought her own house. Not to mention that some gachis would still follow her even after a potential shota scandal. Korone said on Twitter she considered quitting, which many link to wanting to spend more time with her sickly mother, but the more time passes the less likely it seems. Mel has been trying to reinvent herself lately because roommate had to quit due to NicoNico rule changes. And then there was a death in the family. But if that fails I can see her quitting. And then there's this Rushia clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP9RoUln-Bo
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While we're talking about specific vtubers quitting, I'd like to talk about an event affecting a whole company, and how fickle idolfags are. Pic related is the average concurrent viewcount of all Nijis(gray), Niji males(blue) and Niji females(orange). Collabs with both genders are included in gray, but not in either blue or orange, and I have no idea where Mayuzumi "MtX" Kai is counted. But what I want you to notice is how male and female numbers were close until February 2020, the dip that happened then, and how the graphs have been spreading apart since. Nijisanji is well aware of this, that's why their newest Japanese gen had 4 guys and only one girl. So what happened? Dodgeball. About two dozen of Nijis, guys and girls, have gotten together offline and played some sports. It wasn't a secret, here's for example an untranslated clip of Hoshikawa talking about it(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrnQ3-T-izQ). This also included some of the least active streamers, some literally below Ayame level of activity. At the same time Niji's top guns, especially Mito, were overworked and under stress. This made fans mad that the company's deadweight is having fun on their expense. Antis on the other hand started to spread rumours about lots of sex that supposedly happened at that event. But the worst thing that happened was the response. Multiple male Nijis mocked fans talking about that, saying that they were just jealous that they can't meet their waifu in real life. And the females seemingly all agreed to avoid the subject, leading people to believe the rumours. Many fans either jumped ship to Hololive or just quit vtubers entirely because of this. And remember, at this time HoloJP3, Cover's most idol-like group yet, was hard at work putting hours in. And they capitalized hard on unicorns leaving Nijis. What I'm getting to is, how would a similarly rumor-inducing event affect Hololive? They don't really have the male backup, but they do have the west, which has a lot less idolfags, and a lot more cuckolds. ID never even pretended to have anything to do with idols. However, I think it would be devastating for the Japanese branch, especially for more GFE oriented talents like Rushia. So what do anons think? (for those wondering, the April 2020 and March 2021 peaks are when Kanto's states of emergency began, and August 2020 and July 2021 are Nijisanji Koushien)
>>415 Looking at this, it looks as though the Niji males were on track to overtake the females anyway. If I had to guess, I'd say it's because the market for male vtubers is far less saturated than the market for female vtubers. Of course it's a much smaller market but it's one that Nijisaji seems to have unchallenged dominance in thanks, in part, to all the controversy and mismanagement surrounding Holostars. That's not to say the dodgeball incident played no role in the decline of Niji female's viewership around that time, but there were probably other factors at play, such has Hololive's growing popularity due to things like having relatively more consistency in terms of quality and activity and the recent debut of their fourth generation which included Coco who brought in an unprecedented number of English-speaking viewers. Also, for all their faults, idolfags can be good for scaring normalfags away, even if they haven't been doing such a great job of that lately.
>>408 I am a fan of Rushia but I'm more concerned of Delutaya and her absence of streaming.
>>415 I mean if I want to watch a woman do something, I expect her to either be good at games and funny (a unicorn) or bad at games, funny, and at least giving off the illusion of virginal purity. If I'm going to watch a guy VTuber I expect him to be good at games or to be able to keep me entertained. >Volleyball incident You said it yourself. Niji's girls shot themselves in the foot. If a girl is honest about where she went/what she did, fans don't bat an eye unless it's scandalous. The moment they tried to hide it is the moment their fans turned on them. >And remember, at this time HoloJP3, Cover's most idol-like group yet I'm not sure I would call Marine or Noel idol-like. Even Pekora was clearly not an idol from very early on. If anything they were the least idol-like group from Cover at the time outside of Matsuri's antics, and what little material that survived the Holocaust is still around tends to show this. It might be that between the volleyball incident and Cover's mishandling of Holostars that Niji took the male vtuber scene by storm, however, in the end it was mostly a sudden surge in English-translated Matsuri clips in conjunction with Kiryu Coco's self-translated streams that got the overseas fans watching Homolive allowing for that explosion. It was so effective that Cover still uses the Hololive Productions channel as basically an English-Japanese propaganda advertising channel. The animated shorts serve to help establish the personality of characters along with disseminating recent gossip while the "live collab" portions draw people to watch girls they normally would not.
I guess this is the vent thread or whatever so I'll post here, delete it if it's not a fit for the board or whatever I don't care, just want to complain because I am upset and want people to know that I am upset. >make boards over 7 months ago, including vtuber board >I actually bother to put love and care into the boards >some people come by to actually make posts, some people come by just to make absurd demands or try to derail and shit up the boards despite the fact that shitting up a dead board is like trying to get blood out of a stone >still love boards, remain active BO >get on one day to see someone links me to this board >this board has way more activity, completely on-topic activity, and good posting despite only being around for like a month I just gave up and deleted my boards. I don't harbor any hard feelings towards this board or anything and I hope you guys have fun and I hope your board does well, but I've just lost all faith in anons by this point. Feeling pretty bitter and cynical. Good luck with your board, have fun (no sarcasm)
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>>420 >this board has way more activity, completely on-topic activity, and good posting despite only being around for like a month There's only a handful of users, and it suffers from lack of time to dedicate to the hobby and to spreading the hobby, Plus I brought in a few friends and used a VPN (but never to samefag). I strive to read about what's going on, but I feel like I could be doing a lot more for the board if I wasn't so busy most of the time. Don't know what to tell you, anon. I just make posts about whatever I'm watching, and talk to passer-bys about vtubers.
>>422 Part of it is also that BO chose a much more active site. There are some pretty dead sites in the webring and anons will never branch out. I'm depressed and bitter but I'll be over it soon enough.
>>420 >>422 >>424 I'm the anon who talked about this board over on /chuuba/, just as a "hey there's a sister board to yours" thing. I didn't expect anon to delete the board, which kinda makes me feel bad about it because that wasn't my intention. Saging because it's off-topic for this thread.
>>425 I don't really feel guilty for anon since I lurked /chuuba/, or rather the lack of Chuubas. I also have no reason to be rude/nasty to anon, but I consider the board's "fall" to be self-inflicted. This board is at risk of the same fall down the line so it's not a matter to joke about. You get out what you put in, though, and imageboards tend to take more than they give.
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>>415 >how would a similarly rumor-inducing event affect Hololive? Shit like that dodgeball game has knock on effects too, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HdYtFDD4Hc Wherein Botan gets a SC complaining about using fan money to enter a tournament with male streamers. Now this is a bit retarded since Botan's hosted fan servers and events and will likely be professional and not flirt but stuff like the aforementioned and the likes of Matsuri who indeed do what the sc accuses poison the well. There is as well always the risk of the other side acting up, much like the niji males did, even if the streamer is innocuous. That being said, there would have to be more substance for anything to be devastating. Rushia had her discord show and reveal she was messaging Mafumafu, who'd she'd been suspected of dating years before. Fandead never gave a shit, only mafu's fujos did. Really I think there's too many sycophants nowadays for anything short of hell to make a dent, some shit really is disgusting. Just the other month Polka went from a members stream crying about how lonely she was (her members content repeatedly talks about being dependant on chat, etc) to, an hour later, playing, and flirting, with holostar's and niji's roommate accounts on hers, which is well known. When I add that she also gets a lot of videos subbed, which almost certainly has to do with her knowing and having met up irl with loserbait who now seems to be staff, and the TL, she really screams snake. Backlash? Negligible. Also regarding Noel, she's said multiple times she's not into shota she just plays it up for laughs, she's into older men. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgVsPFljyww I'm guessing the absent father's to blame. That being said, and as I'm sure many an anon can attest to, joking, especially so much, can lead to 'joking', and so on. As >>373 says and pic related shows, shouldn't be too much bother though. >>408 She doesn't have that much money anymore after blowing it all on the semi-failed booth project and spiralling audio autism costs, approaching 円10,000,000 in equipment alone. Still very wealthy though, just blows a lot of it on fantia subs, I hope she saves up enough for her studio/tutorage plan one day
>>433 So that's why the Japs say Polka is one of the biggest menheras of the group. I had heard that her dependence on her chat was approaching Watame levels, but I figured that being obese in Japan just left her starved for male attention. She seemed normal aside from that.
>>433 Sauce on the flirting thing? I think Polka gets a lot of TLs because, like Nobuhime, she's one of the best at taking fairly boring content and making it entertaining, and she has at least a basic grasp on English about on Pochimaru's level, maybe a little less. Same reason Subaru gets a lot of subs. >>434 Could also just be the fact that she's the yandere of Gen5.
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>>434 She really is, Have a few members posts that are just the tip of the iceberg. >>435 >flirting I don't watch her so no idea about specifics, but there's a mountain of collab content, here's her with some stars/nijis/indies though that she ignores as Polka. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYCNow7i4Sg Now realise this was the same day she was thanking fans for her 1 year anniversary and talked about being burnt out (should be early on iirc). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbO_j1Sbx-4 Then consider she supposedly gets tired easily, hence why she doesn't read SC. So too tired to read the donations of fans on an anniversary, but able to stream, for longer, with a large group of men she won't touch or mention, by her own logic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBqOWJ0NQ6s
>>436 I watched bits and pieces in reverse order, but she does sound more like a corpse in the bits I caught in the collab content. Also to play devil's advocate, streaming for a live audience is different than playing a game with a group of friends that happens to be streamed by someone else.
>>436 Translation?
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So kson is teasing an indie group. Who do you think will it include? Kanatan? Haachama? Some literal who she's friends with?
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>>451 >coco leaves hololive >goes indie and gains a ton of following >makes her own vtuber company with her own policies and freedom This is literally what anons were saying about a year ago way before the taiwan scandal. Sasuga
>>451 That's essentially what anons were saying back when her and Fubuki had about equal sway in the company. I think she'll include people she's friends with. The issue is these "Indie" companies get famous vtubers to do it in their hobby time, but because they do it in their hobby time until it's a valid source of income, they never grow quite as fast as anyone expects them to, I'm sure it will be successful but maybe not as Hololive/Nijisanji-level successful as anons are thinking.
Alright, how many of you niggers crosspost. I feel like I've had one too many brush ups with some of you, especially in the cuckchan "/here/"chuuba sphere (CyberLive, Phase Connect, select indies). And, yes, I am also admitting to that fact.
>>465 I post to here and Smug mainly, while crossposting to PLW once in a while. I also post to /kind/ and /late/'s respective websites from time to time along with briefly lurking the other corners that I deem not infecting my computer with fedware or otherwise reporting information to the feds (and even then only on a VPN). Wish I spoke French to see what the onions are discussing beyond briefly recognizing a word. Only thing I've seen of 4chan in the last half decade or so are archives when looking up the context of something someone was yelling about.
>>465 I mainly post to smug/a/, and sometimes also to here, /animu/, /geimu/ and 4/n/. I lurk 4/vt/, but I'm not the one posting their chuubas. I only posted in VOMS thread, indie thread, Hololive thread, Japanese Learning thread and this thread.
>>466 >>468 Could've sworn I spotted at least 3 smuganons while lurking /vt/'s CyberLive thread, especially since I spotted one call out the other. This is on top of noticing familiar writing styles, but that one's hardly verifiable. Oh well.
>>465 I lurked an occasionally posted when it was made because I knew there were a lot of ENtubers lurking their threads and I like talking shit about ecelebs in places where I know they can see it. However I haven't posted in months and I don't lurk much anymore because it's just the same shit over and over again at this point. Almost every thread is just retards reenacting the same arguments word for word like some kind of liturgy. Also, I've noticed the jannies there are extremely sensitive when it comes to Ina. Any post that even so much as alludes to her being Korean gets deleted within minutes.
>>481 >Ina That's probably because it's a direct segway into political discussion Japanese-Korean relations, which 4chan jannies are terrified of. As much as I like Ina, her Korean-Leaf upbringing are what got her to recommend Bae and Sana over a mutual love of K-pop. Essentially Ina's ethnicity is a ticking time bomb that could start all sorts of artificial drama in a place that likes to gossip and has users more interested in following the gossip than in watching vtubers.
I think this is the best thread to mention the twitch whore fox's russian talk. https://files.catbox.moe/f3m0y1.mp4 >I see how many Russian-speaking people are interested in vtubers. I see it. I told my company about it, they allowed me to make this stream. I hope they will allow me to do these projects in future. I'll not be able to make projects in russian all the time. >Remember, Coco from Hololive, even though she did things in English, she couldn't do full English streams like the half-Russian (sic) stream I'm doing now. >I have...I was given way more rights to do this, but please believe me that I continue to talk to the company, that I will continue to show the clips that you make, I continue to show how many comments and how many people come to watch the Russian streams...the Russian-language streams, sorry [you anglos wouldn't get it but "Russian" in regards to the country, the people and the language doesn't mean the same thing] and...just trust me, even if I can't always [she misspeaks "can"] *laughs*...can, can can, sorry, even if I can't always talk in Russian on streams or do Russian streams, I will keep asking the company and showing the company that there is an interest in this. >So I hope you understand that if you see somewhere in the comments or people will be asking "please, please, please, I want more", I can't always do this, and please give them Coco as an example, that Coco too...she did such half-English streams sometimes, but she couldn't even do a fully English stream, even though her command of English is excellent. >So, yeah. I'll keep showing them, I'll keep telling them. I really want them to allow me to make this stream more often than once a month. >All of this...I don't know if we have a right to talk about this, Coco left Hololive...but the actress who play...the actress, or you could say the vocal actress [she means voice actress] who plays her, she still makes streams and it's very easy to find her. It's very easy...oh, yeah, some people [in the chat] already said it, I'm not sure if I can talk about this, but yeah...you can find her, she still makes, actually just recently she debuted her new character, she was very beatiful. >Well, alright, so...well, alright...I think I said everything I wanted to say, now we will read, we will answer, we will watch, we will do everything. >My God I have four and a half hours left to my next stream. (translation taken from /vt/) >previous life goes full retard to preach to the choir about how "companies don't do enough in politics so streamers have to" for appeal >previous life goes not-quite-full-retard to preach to the choir about kson for appeal This does change how I see her from crazy SJW to appeal chasing cocksucker, but I still don't want to watch her, besides my limited watching time is best spent watching JP vtubers to improve at moonrunes anyway.
>>484 last "previous life" should be "current life"
Korone has fat fingers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyWeAieMpmI Also Okayu violates OpSec (admittedly really easy to do in Japan because of things like Tamago Miso) and doesn't really give a shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4-ZyD9B9nQ
>>456 >get famous vtubers to do it in their hobby time I wouldn't be so certain that's the path she'll follow. Her connections are more far reaching than you'd expect, for example Melody (of stripper fame) alluded to her and kson being friends. She'd have the connections to convince at least some smaller Vtubers to go fulltime, and she has the funding to pay salaries until they make it (keeping in mind, she got a million bucks off superchat in a year, and she stayed on for more than that, with her keeping about 40% of that, plus merchandising income, plus subscription income, plus appearances in other places). Chances are, she made at least a million bucks while she was with Hololive. Assuming she didn't blow it all on Adidas apparel, she's got enough funding to start big, if she wants to go that path.
>>553 >Assuming she didn't blow it all on Adidas apparel Anon, this is the same woman who spent $10,000 on a bed.
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This is a stupid rule. I would understand if they were the opposite sex, but who cares if Marine's manager is on the stream or not? Also doesn't that just mean Marine has to find a way to have her on without her voice appearing? https://youtube.com/watch?v=iZ29yPEd0XA
>>637 It's utter bullshit. An EN manager, who are all guys, was allowed on the L4D2 collab stream (non voice mind you), and now has a tranny lorefag role too. It is pretty funny to give all of them female avatars with Marine outright stating otherwise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFfutMHp7io It shouldn't be much different from collabing with their mamas, although I could see them not wanting to cause more permanent mane-charas (especially with high turn over rates), that's fixed by just limiting the streams not outright banning them.
>>643 It's not like the girls don't lose Mane-chans that they like every once in a while. I feel like Marine should abuse the voice loophole to have her there over garlic phone or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-yeKueb4mw At least we now know that kson can collab with Holo roommates. Case in point, a threeway collab with Mel and Choco, on the first one's channel.
>>655 Have they been moonlighting as pngtubers for awhile or did they start just so they can stream with her?
>>657 Mel has had that account since 2014. Pretty sure Choco has had hers for a long time too. Both use their alt channels for 3D antics IIRC.
kronii showed up to a stream while stoned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnFil0Vxpo8
>>672 She sounds more drunk than stoned.
>>673 I hope that's the case for her sake. Pot may be legal in Canada but it's very looked down upon by the Japanese.
>Laplus is a former Re:Act chuuba >Lui is a former Re:Act staff and Watame's friend from when both were utaite Cover is just eating up all the good talent from old companies, huh? Then I guess there might be something to the supposed leaks claiming Pinky Pop Hepburn and Miya Kimino are in.
Masked Janny is Mio's friend and the second indie vtuber ever hired for JP(and first since Suisei)
>>971 >>988 Source?
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>>1007 >Okinawa Just don't tell me she fucks niggers and we'll be alright.
>>1008 What makes Okinawa earn that reputation?
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>>1009 28 US Marines.
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>>1009 From 1955: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yumiko-chan_incident To 1995: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Okinawa_rape_incident The US has a long and dark history on Okinawa that they try to cover up. 80% of Okinawans want them gone according to surveys, and even official polling still puts that number between 50-70%. They fudge the numbers by claiming that Okinawans commit crime 6x more often than US servicemen per 10k population, but that's because while Japanese prosecutors have the legal right to prosecute service members, they usually defer punishment for lesser crimes to military tribunals which promptly put them on a ship or ship them back to America to stand trial so that they are not considered part of the Okinawan crime statistics even if the crime took place in Okinawa. This is especially prevalent with sexual offenses such as rape and public masturbation, and in most cases the ones doing it are niggers. As a ratio of the Navy, blacks make up a significantly larger chunk of the naval presence in Okinawa and Germany for the Army/Marines than they do anywhere else Americans are stationed. Officers have openly joked to newspapers (they didn't realize they were talking to journalists) about the fact that rapes are so prevalent among their troops in Okinawa because the US military banned the use of prostitutes. In many cases charges never get brought forward even when the women who were raped are adamant about it, because the perpetrator was black and the prosecutors don't want more mass protests in Okinawa. In many cases the US military doesn't even bring them to the ship for punishment, they just give them the option to be dishonorably discharged. It doesn't help that Okinawa is the poorest prefecture in Japan so they rely on the American military to stay afloat, leading to lots of interracial couples. In fact most of the crime reports that DO make it through regarding rapes and burglaries are usually because it was a US serviceman raping or stealing from another serviceman's local girlfriend/wife.
>>1009 Same as any other overseas US military base: The US forcibly exports its rape apes and protects them from being strung up by the local population. >>674 I heavily doubt it's pot. It's not anywhere as easy to access in Japan as here. You get 10 years for dealing, and 5 for possession, plus tens of thousands of dollars in fines on top. Opium has less punishment than weed there and has the benefit of being less smelly and thus easier concealed. Then again, she isn't an 80 year old Chinese man, so it's probably not Opium either.
>>1011 Also a lot of Japs don't consider Okinawans to be real Japanese so they don't give a shit either.
>>1011 It's also important to point out that the US doesn't even consider Okinawans to be rightful citizens of literally anywhere either, due to the fact that as far as the US is concerned they weren't even supposed to be there in the first place. The US kicked the natives off the island after WW2 and basically intended to turn the entire island into a military base, only to have the natives return in fishing boats less than a year later and begin squatting. Further, according to some military lawyers, the 1970/80s era treaties that turned the Island back over to the Japanese state actually specifically disallowed the native population from returning. The US Military has as a result considered the Okinawans roughly akin to native fauna and the actual 'crime' that gets the dindus and dumbasses kicked out of the military is embarrassing the service, not rape/theft/whatever, since the victim in their eyes has no legal right to complain. The US Military will, however, actively prosecute any idiot that goes after a Japanese mainlander in Okinawa, since the US considers Japanese people to be allies and rightful inhabitants of the island. They just don't consider the Okinawans to be human.
>>1007 I'm 99% sure from looking at it that that's a modem default name and there's probably countless thousands of Wifi nodes with that name all across Japan.
so no one gonna mention some indie doxxed haato with a hilarious rap? haato is pretty based for including it albeit censored in her video anyways
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>>301 >>300 Post the updated one, retard
did miko mention in her xmas mengen why there was no pekomiko collab?
anyone know what was in shion's latest fanbox post she's depressed again
>>1106 No idea. /animu/ and /a/ don't know either from a quick check.
>>1106 shes retiring from the Mario Kart tournament for "mental issues" she will try to return before the end of the month or something like that.
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>Who was that She's joking, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGDxx8fwhzY
Calli was doing so good, and now all of that has been gone now and it doesn't help that she's defending a podcast full of ironic weebs. Fuck anitubers.
>>1162 What gets me is that this Connor guy had a video shitting on vtuber/idol fans and companies, which he later deleted (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR_oOcko-bg was the link IIRC, in case anyone can do something with it) This is a baffling hill to die on.
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>>1164 Yeah, I think it might be this clip rescued from one of /a/'s VTuber threads. But really now: >shits on VTubers and idol cultures >had (has?) girls from HoloID and HoloEN lusting over him I really don't get all of this. Though I think Ame was the only exception, where she got annoyed with him to the point that she blocked him. And if this /animu/ post it's true, then that's just the kicker.
>>1165 Yeah, that's the one, thanks. The post is from me, and it's easily proven: There's a ton of clips of their "relationship" because it's what normalfags think is cute. Any one of them just looks like them joking around. But she's constantly "jokingly" flirting with him, and after a while you realize it's an ...unless? situation. It makes sense, she is a normalfag forced to live a robot life, that fucks them up emotionally. Him playing along though is just fucked up. No way he doesn't realize it either, he isn't autistic.
>>1164 What he and I suspect some of the people he's talking about don't understand is that waifuism is the new religion, and vtubers and idols are just an extension of that religion. We literally call them idols, after all, and people show up and give them praise and money for no reason at all. When vtubers come into the equation things get a little more complex, and if the object of worship breaks character then of course the viewers will get mad. They're worshipping the image, not the person behind it.
https://files.catbox.moe/dm9yj1.mp4 KONNICHIWA! Hello Hololive from Virginia Beach! My name is PantsuParty aka Amanda Lynn Morris and I'm a YouTuber slash creative individual slash someone who identifies with being born in the wrong dimension. Tragically, I... truly just do not fit in the 3rd dimension, so... WOW! AHEHEHEHE! AS YOU CAN SEE, I'm a goofy girl who REALLY embraces being themself, and I love to try new things! I'M REALLY good at technology, I pick up on, uh, things really fast. Just within this past month, I picked up Adobe Premiere to learn how to use that software ahead of time, and made tons of videos, actually a video every day for the whole month of May, so please check out PantsuParty if you want to see more of what I'm like, uh, and what kind of things I come up with... I mainly like to focus on anime-related content, I love to analyze anime, I love to talk about otaku culture, I love to talk about anything Japaneeese, uh, I love gaming, I was super obsessed with Animal Crossing when it came out, I love to do lots of seeing unboxing games (?) Unfortunately, I am NOT a Minecraft stan, so if that's what you're gonna contractually obligate me to do [sudden cut] Hehehe, wait, I just got a call from my ex-CEO manager, he said, UH... Yeah, YEAH, I'd LOVE to play Minecraft! (laughs) Some of the types of content I do here on ye olde YouTube includes passionately musically performing some...thing... I have tons of gaming streams and let's plays content, one of my favorite ones is when I tried to do a Pokemon SoulSilver Nuzlocke, which, unfortunately ended with a... (laughs) With Glitch City. I've already done multiple livestreams already on my Twitch dot tv channel, I definitely would be able to do at least 3 streams a week. Another one of my passions is art. I love drawing, I've been drawing since I was little. Recently, I was endowed with a drawing table that I can connect to my computer and I tried making a Drawcast, but I would be very interested in doing more stuff like... that. (Awkwardly gestures, presents the video behind her) Sooo, if I haven't scared you away yet, (background cuts to an image representation featuring anime girls and lewd cosplay titled motivation.jpg) you may be wondering what is UP with that get-up? UHH, ARE THOSE underpants on your head? And uh, yes, it's underpants on my head... I truly think pantsu are the most versatile fashion accessory any one girl can have! Not only does it function as an adorable hat, (she draws the bottom over her face) it could also become a facemask! Just like the common shimapan, I am EXTREMELY versatile! I can do ALLLLL kinds of things! Draw, sing, act, make a complete fool of myself on the internet (hmm), be adorable, whatever you need me to do, I am williiing to take commaaaand! The reason why I want to become a Hololive vtuber is that the whole phenomenon of vtubing and virtual YouTubing and just YouTube in general has inspired me to take a lot of risks with my life and to really kind of develop a lot of creative talents. I grew up extremely shhhy aaand I didn't really know how to really make connections with people and I think it's so wonderful that this new technology allows people with different learning styles, maybe different perspectives, maybe even people who speak different languages, uh, a chance to connect with somebody and not have to worry about all the, all the not so fun stuff that we have to deal with in the real world. Uhh, hehe! My favorite vtuber is Natsuiro Matsuri, she is SO funny and spunky and I just REALLY respect the energy and the effort she puts into entertaining her fanbase. Uh, I hope I can be like her one day! Ehehehe! As for my history here on the platform of YouTube, I have been making content for the site for a very long time! When I was in middle school, I used to make those lyric singalong videos and just like AMVs of my favorite anime, and almost 3 years ago, I launched my own YouTube channel PantsuParty and my side channel Corrupting Your Kids, where I just kind of make whatever I'm inspired to make. I've been featured in HUNDREDS of videos by now, there's a playlist called Every Video Featuring May (playlist is scrolling in the background) I will link it in the description of this video. But that includes every video I've ever been in, I've done voice acting roles, I've done livestreams, I've done off the cuff reviews, I've made and edited analysis videos, all sorts of stuff but you'll find it there. Also I just wanted to say that like even though I love to have fun, and kind of, kind of a little edgy, I do think it's really important to follow the rules and I just really want to make the best content possible. Thanks for watching my audition, PantsuParty out! (peace sign)
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>>1211 >My name is PantsuParty Literally who?
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Ah. Some literal tranny's fuck buddy. Nevermind I don't want to know any more.
>>1211 Is this the new PENGUIN OF DOOM copypasta?
>>1165 I looked the guy up. He’s not hard on the eyes but he’s not a panty-dampener either. Are these (non-Ironmouse) girls really so hard up for options that this is whom they lust after? I know that being virtually surrounded by anonymous men who worship and throw money at you must induce a kind of ennui that means you find someone who denigrates you (and them) to be fresh and exciting, but 1800-come-on-now, surely you can do better than that? Poor things. By the way, that PR agency the anitubers are affiliated with - GeeXPlus - is a real scummy foreign bunch with a chip on their shoulders. The company nominally traces its ownership up to Kadokawa via BookWalker, but the suits in Kadokawa’s vast empire have very little touch with tastes on the ground, little ability to oversee everything, and are mainly of the “line goes up at all costs” attitude in any case, so the foreigners on the ground have much leeway to scheme towards getting their hands on more influence. It’s similar to what foreign (((localiser))) cliques already try to do. Neither of these groups contain many people you’d hang out with voluntarily; they generally make for miserable company. GeeXPlus has already tried to pull a few attempts at the “try to create a problem that you have to hire us to fix” scam. More broadly, they’re playing to the same attempt to displace tastemakers as we saw all that time ago when the exodus to 8chan happened. Kadokawa in Japan and Funimation internationally wants normalfags to be told what to read and watch, and they’d be delighted if they succeed in getting those normalfags to think of their tame anitubers as cool guys whose taste is to be admired. It’s hard to exaggerate the stinking blend of rage+contempt that the management of those companies have for “fans” (anyone who has the taste and knowledge to say when something’s shit). The Ur-consoomer of their wet dreams just CONSUMES PRODUCT THEN GETS EXCITED FOR NEXT PRODUCT. If that sounds pathetic, it’s because it is; these anitubers and their podcast are the Collider of their field.
>>1219 whats this about?
>Hey, looks like Calli's other account has some new songs >Things have settled down a bit, let's listen >Oh. Oh no. Is she literally unable to let this go for the rest of eternity? It's the week-old cuckery picture all over again.
>>1228 I'm not going to pretend I know too much about Calli since I'm not very interested in her streams but she always came across like she wanted to be the edgy vtubing outlier who wanted to prove that vtubing was MORE than just idolfagging despite that not really being much of a thing outside of Hololive. She misunderstands that it's not her audience shittalking her but ebin trolls and she still bites anyways. She keeps doing this and the only thing that's going to happen is that everyone'll hate her.
>>1230 It's even funnier: This wasn't started by trolls. The initial supa mentioning concerns about collabs with the Welshman was a worried fan, and the supa saying "condom money for Connor" was a fan trying to make a joke, figuring she'd realize such obvious bait is a joke, and instead she went on a multi-minute rant, changed supa rules, and it was still in her head later when she retweeted the cuckery fanart (which was a troll) This started from an epic menhera self-destruct out of nowhere.
Mori's roommate stream from earlier today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP-M3VD3TzQ
>one of the 3dpd streamers Pekora jokingly wanted a collab with responded https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbticSMB6f4 Probably just a playful little nod for the crowd, but what does it mean if it actually happens? I know streamers/western ecelebs are usually marred in drama, doubly so if it's a female.
>>1235 the end of hololive could be around the corner
>>1228 >>1231 >>1232 I guess that's how it ends. No offense to her, but she did brought this all to/by herself. And wouldn't you know it, another announcement for taking a break. My condolences to all of her (probably now former) fans. >>1235 >It's real This is not good >>1236 Not to make light of the situation, but how many times has it been "the end of Holoive" now?
>>1237 *Hololive
>>1235 Pekora has been competing for top position for a while and this is a bit on-the-nose even for her. That being said, the language barrier and culture differences mean that at most it would just be a PR stunt they might do once in a blue moon that benefits both of them.
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>>1250 There goes Rushia. Shouldn't have been fucking around if you're GFE. How do Holos still not have a 100% clean work computer, despite not a single one making under 100k/anno? It's the easiest, least fuckup-prone setup possible.
>>1250 Shit, I just got the dates: Her birthday is January 22nd, where she sold that wedding stuff with an end of order date of the 28th. Valentine's day is coming up in a couple of days, big day for GFE. This is perfectly timed to blow up: Two weeks from the big spending event, less than a week from the big romantic thing. lol.
>>1251 She has to have Discord on her work computer for collab streams and I guess she was using that account for personal shit as well. Does Discord let you make more than one account? I've never used it.
>>1250 I don't watch Rushia that much but I barely notice anyone bitching about it in the spots I usually see bitching about this sort of thing. If it wasn't for terrible bait spam threads on /vt/ I doubt I would've known. >>1253 You can make infinite accounts as long as you have fresh email addresses last I checked. Rushia is either just incredibly lazy and stupid or the interaction is taken out of context. Probably the former but I wouldn't know. Maybe nips don't know how to cook up throwaway emails.
>>1251 They use discord professionally to keep in contact with their supervisors and in many cases the people they deal with professionally end up also being people they deal with personally. It's not hard to see how it happens. This coming right after everyone was playing that game myself included is a little on-the-nose.
>>1254 >I don't watch Rushia that much but I barely notice anyone bitching about it in the spots I usually see bitching about this sort of thing. I actively avoid Rushia because I dislike the girlfriend experience (and most other girls when they try to sell the girlfriend experience) so I wouldn't have been aware at all if anon didn't mention it.
>>1254 >post career ending stuff >durr durr le spam every time
>>1257 /vt/ is composed enitrely of spam threads, it doesn't matter what the context is. If people posting there aren't jacking off then they're trying to bait gachikois into melting down. I can't blame you if you never actually look at /vt/ but that's the reality of it.
>>1254 2ch and 5ch are melting down over this. You would have heard about it sooner or later.
do you know what gachikoi means?
>>1255 >It's not hard to see how it happens Out of laziness, sure. I also have people I deal with professionally I hang out with personally. Yet, I just tell them that THAT account is the work account, and THIS one is the private one, and to make sure to message the right one. It's not hard, just have separate profile pictures and names. Really hard to fuck that up.
>>1261 >Expecting women from a technologically illiterate country to be able to have separate accounts They stream from iphones and some of them (including Rushia IIRC) buy their computers directly from big box stores, anon.
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I've had a chance to look into it a little more on Smug and PLW. Whatever happens, happens. It sounds like Rushia was already cucking her fans before this and I don't like her anyways so nothing of value was lost. From what I remember of the last Rushia scandal, her boy toy got hit by it more than she did. If 2ch and 5ch really are having a meltdown then good. I will say that the irony of this happening right after the marriage set and right before valentines is pretty funny. Maybe it's time for Hololive to do a purge and cut their losses. Not that they would.
All whoretuber fans are automatically cucks anyway.
>>1264 Cool story, bro.
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Well, it's up on Yahoo News Nippon. Graduation inc. https://archive.is/XS1Ei
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200K watching a livestream of a dramatuber talking about this. She's fucked.
It's not just Fandeads, mafumafu's fans(whatever they're called) are badly hit too. https://files.catbox.moe/26box6.mp4
>>1266 >>1267 >>1268 Could this be the end of Hololive and Yagoo's dream?
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>>1269 Of Hololive? No Of Rushia? Very likely Assuming she doesn't do a flip like she threatened on roommate Twitter before she deleted it, her long term views and income are fucked. Short term the reddit anti-idol brigade will prop her up, but long term she's fucked. Considering those two have been suspected of being together since 2018(see pic related), the only way forward for Rushia that isn't a guaranteed crash and burn is abandoning GFE and pivoting to an entertainment vtuber, and even that might not work.
I don't watch rushia but I still like her. I do not understand how she is gfe, to me it jisr seemed like playing the role of a overly attached idol to thier fans. I guess it might strqy that way but I think it is cute regardless if she has a boyfriend or not.
>>1268 That was comedy gold, thanks anon.
>>1270 She doesn't do well with criticism from her fellow Hololive members and she isn't good at games other than screaming, so I don't think she could make that kind of transition since she sells herself on the girlfriend experience, anon.
>>1271 I suppose I could see that interpretation, but that doesn't make the current situation any better. If anything I'd say it's worse unless she goes the lewd/sexy gravure idol route now.
>>1268 Man, what a dick. The girl sounded fake but the guy sounded like a typical asshole shock jock radio guy. >>1271 Rushia definitely plays up the GFE a lot. She does ASMR and her voice packs are all that lovey dovey shit after all, and her merch are marriage rings. If I fell for that trap and she were my oshi I'd be mad as hell too, or very depressed, or both.
>>1275 Maybe but the nakadashi joke was pretty good.
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>>1275 The fujoshi sounded severely autistic and mentally unstable. But I said fujoshi twice.
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>なかおかが…あぁ Shion yo...
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Mafumafu goes on hiatus and Rushia breaks her silence on the ongoing drama https://archive.ph/zwM8s https://archive.ph/pIHxC
>>1283 She also deleted it in short order.
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>>1284 You're right, I should've mentioned that too. Not only that one, but also a lot of other unrelated ones too. I don't know if this is her doing or Cover's. On a more light-hearted note, a misspelling turns Haachama into a russophile. Since the video is a bit too big for this board, here's a link: https://files.catbox.moe/e36onv.mp4
>>1280 I'm not getting what's wrong with this clip
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R.I.P. >>1288 Called her by her other name.
>>1294 Oh I see what you mean now. シオンよ... indeed
Mori's roommate had a 2 and a half hour long drunken Instagram stream last night which she promptly deleted. For those interested: https://mega.nz/file/DWAgwRhK#15Hi53aiM155JyUdY5-7FCxgTnn9RrBWQoCOCuuCr0M
>>1296 Link's dead.
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>>1298 Shit. Well I watched the first 20 or so minutes and she was mostly talking about how she has ADHD and her pre-Hololive friends won't talk to her anymore and she feels betrayed by one of them. Supposedly she said some shit about Hololive later on in the stream but that may not be true.
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Rushia got shitcanned! https://cover-corp.com/news/detail/20220224b Picture because they intentionally made it obtuse to prevent copy/pasting.
>>1311 lol My random guess: She's the one that leaked shit to that drama channel that flew cover for her and the twink with "insider information". It was pretty apparent it was either her or him doing it.
>>1312 I haven't been keeping up with this too much. Who is the drama channel what was the content of his "insider information"?
>>1313 Korekore.
>>1311 Oh well. I'm sorry for any Rushia fan lurking here but she did this all to herself.
>>1317 Feel bad for him but it can't be helped. On the bright side there should be fewer Homolive leaks now meaning maybe, finally, there will be less drama.
I guess it's the end. Kizuna Ai is kill after this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTa2HxIsBPM
>>1317 >>1311 She's been breaking rules since her early days, sending DMs to her best Superchatters which is against the rules for talent. Her managers have also been sending stuff during streams that made her cry on stream, but now I think it was scolding for similar incidents. At first Cover sided with her about this with the first press release pretty much saying the talent's private lives are private, and no one's business, but she's been using her work accounts to do personal stuff, which is what started this in the first place. They probably saw the leaks to korekore after investigating further and probably more leaks after checking her work accounts. It was apparently to prove to her fanbase that she wasn't in a relationship with mafumafu, but it was totally unneccesary. #weloverushia was trending, she didn't lose many subs, and was probably going to pick up Western subs like with what happened with Towa. If she had kept quiet, it would have blown over and she could have kept on streaming as Rushia. But she has the history of unprofessional behavior and the NDA leaks were probably the last straw.
>>1317 >>1331 Yeah, I've been a fan of Rushia for just barely years (not quite a fandead, but a fan), and even though I'm sad to see her go, she absolutely did bring this on herself. She really wasn't suited for this industry in the first place.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXAEc8nh-8o just leaving this here to show that Rushia has a history of being a manipulative bitch.
>>1337 I don't really care any more. The Rushia drama ended last week and she's fired, isn't she?
>>1338 Unfortunately for you we also have a little bit of drama today, and it involves BO's favourite Super Hyper Deluxe Idol. Turns out she's been found out tracing images for her anniversary goods.
>>1341 Announcement video on her channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te_S31al0Yw
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>>1341 She got caught again, eh? That's pretty funny. >>1343 It can't be helped, problem resolved already with the artist. She's very childish so these things will happen sometimes.
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>>1343 >This is Momosuzu Nene. >I am still very inexperienced with drawing art. >I tend to reference art drawn by artists I respect. >I am truly sorry to the artist. >As announced by Cover Corp, I have already apologized to the related party. >Going forward, I hope you'll continue to allow me to continue doing the art streams that I so love. >Thank you for listening. Damn, I don't get to hear serious Nene that often. She could do some sexy ASMR if she did serious voice more often.
Oh right, pic related was Namori's response to Nene's tracing.
>>1346 Your first pic is broken
>>1349 >>1351 I know. Blame a server-side connection error.
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>>1365 theres an obese man in her apartment!
>>1365 What is it with some VTubers and their atrocious opsec?
>>1369 They are literal brain dead attention whores. What do you expect?
>>1365 I didn't think someone as energetic as Ollie would be fat.
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Many countries I would give her the benefit of the doubt. Even in Japan, cops will opportunistically go after foreigners. Japanese police don't go to your door though unless you have done something heinous or they need to get ahold of you for mundane reasons. Stop doing drugs, Callie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Kd8TeGkIs
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Would you guys be interested in playing in the Infinity Cup? It's the tournament that they're making over at the >>>/icup/ board and they're a few teams short.
>>1402 Not really, but if other anons are interested I don't mind. There's 3 or 4 lurking around.
>>1403 >>1402 Don't know jack about soccer but we could very well use https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/ as a base. Would be fun as a diversion, I reckon.
This seems like the same like the right place to bitch about this. I think Holo EN would be better if they only debuted three members per generation like they did with ID. Gen 1 - Ame, Ina, Gura Gen 2 - Irys, Bae, Kronii or Fauna or Mumei. I don't know, I don't watch Council much.
>>1417 Isn't Irys a Gen 1.5 of sorts? I agree otherwise with you, anon. I would exclude Fauna from Gen 2 and have Bae, Kronii, Mumei and Sana as it. Fauna is a bit of a weak link for me.
>>1418 >Isn't Irys a Gen 1.5 of sorts? Yeah but she debuted just before Council and is better than any of them. >Fauna Like I said, I watch very little of Council but the only thing I dislike about Fauna so far is the fake-sounding voice. Then again, I'm a big fan of Luna so I'm in no position to criticize someone for using a fake voice.
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Reaper and Chicken have grown on me even though I hated them at first, but a Gen1 debut without them would have been much more orthodox and kept much more drama out of HoloEN, permanently changing HoloEN. I won't say for the better, but definitely it would be more Japanese and in-line with idol culture. We'd miss out on some good content, but also a lot of the more crass content that brings down the entire group, so I don't know if I would call that good or bad. I think without a Calli figure to take the heat off Gura, Gura would have quit since she was dealing with alcoholism and other issues during the first few months after departing from her Senzawa persona. As for Gen 2, I have admittedly not watched them enough however for the most part they have all been "safe." Fauna concerned me since she's a massive slut IRL, but she's played it safe (fake, but safe) since her debut so I don't see her causing drama since she enjoys her income, which only leaves Kronii during her long-stream episodes (she gets migraines or something and becomes loopy? I don't know), and I haven't watched Kronii enough past her debut and collabs to form an opinion about that. Bae is a true otaku which comes across as a gap moe but we probably wouldn't get that side of her if Gen 1 had debuted the way you wanted so I don't know how to feel about that. Overall I think HoloEN would be "boring" the way the newer HoloJPs are boring without the bad apples so I can't hate them too much. It took me a long time to come to that conclusion though. Kiara provides a business sense and pushes corporate boundaries in the background to allow for new/different content, and Calli, despite being a wigger, provides a different musical outlook and takes the heat off other member's antics by being twice as despicable as any of the others could ever hope to be. IRyS and Bae couldn't be so smug/gap moe degenerate as they are without Calli as a baseline to work off of. None of Gen2 are particularly great on their own, however they all work well in collabs both with one another but especially with Gen1. Mumei by herself is a bit of a control freak and bland (makes sense she's a college liberal arts student) when not in psychopath mode such as during the Needy Streamer playthrough, but she has good art symmetry/contrast with Ina, helps Ame actualize ideas, and makes for an excellent conversational partner with Gura since their total two braincells combined is like watching two bakas come together to create something new and exciting in their own baka way. Kronii's smug pairs nicely with most of Gen 2 and being good friends with Ina IRL lets the two of them crack jokes in a natural and expansive way. Sana is just a bundle of pure fun bringing Aussie shitposting to the table.
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Watame's boyfriend has been found after she slipped up and revealed a bunch of nicknames on her switch(just buy a work console you dumbass, not like you can't afford it). Tweets 5ch found indicate they've been dating since 2013 and as far as 2018 there were no plans to marry yet, but it does seem like a serious relationship if they have been together for 7 years. This is the guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGTbDZmorqM High-level IT pro by trade, dancer on the side.
>>1430 Is this old or did it happen a second time? I'm pretty sure I remember hearing about the exact same thing with Watame's Switch a year or so ago.
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https://archive.ph/9KmJc >Some vtuber tries to push loli dakis as pedophilia >Gets kicked out by her agency Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
>>1445 If the replies are right in that the company didn't screen the talents beforehand then that's also a huge mistake.
>>1430 I'd be mad, but he has nice moves, so I forgive. Speaking of which, Nakiri Ayame hasn't streamed in over a month.
Anything special going on? Some Holos had subscriber only chat due to bots the last few days. Was it another grave offense against the West Taiwanese people?
>>1456 Youtube laid off their entire double-checking department so now it's incredibly easy to spam a streamer's chat with accounts that have porn names/pfps and get them banned.
Someone on both /a/ and /animu/ was saying that Korone is taking a break because of negativity on the Internet. Can someone confirm what exactly happened?
>>1465 dunno really, checking her last YT stream and many comments repeat that.
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Kson has decided to join VShojo. Ain't that great.
>>1452 Cuckold.
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Okay I need to pee SO BAD HOLE LEE SH*T I need to go, I need to go I need to go, I need to go, I need to go I need to go, I need to go I need to go I need to go I need to go Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god I need to pee I need to pee, I need to pee I need to pee, I need to pee I need to pee I need to pee, I need to pee My god Ah hur hur hur hur hur Ah dur dur dur dur dur dur
>>363 What's this about Kiara? >>1513 Alas. I don't know much about VShojo other than pink cat bad. Is there more?
>>1533 Kiara had a habit of being outspoken about BLM and other such activism while in character. Many found that, coupled with some other early behaviour, contrary to what they expected from Hololive. VShojo is mostly known for bringing American camgirls to virtual living, since a good percentage of their original batch of talent had that background, as well as being the home of PINK CAT BAD. If you know what to look for you can take a sniff of their business relationships and decide whether you find them savoury or not. My personal impression is that most of their talent is a bit mediocre and quite hard to like. The mystery is why a powerhouse like Kson would need or want to join up with them, or indeed with any agency like them, in the first place.
Pippa has released a video where she mentions that Japan is implementing a system where VTubers and manga artists will only have "verified" invoices if they use their real names and they don't have regards to privacy, however /a/ mentions that this regulation is applied on a case-by-case basis. How much of this is true?
>>1538 I looked into it a little. It has to do with a new law that requires all businesses (including freelancers and other traders who do business under their own names, which includes vtubers and manga artists who are usually sole traders rather than employees in a legal sense) who issue invoices to register those invoices with the Financial Directorate before they’re sent. This means that the tax authorities gain real-time logging of transactions, among other advantages for the government. When an invoice’s particulars are registered, the Directorate returns a QR code containing a signature or link that “verifies” the invoice for the customer receiving the invoice to check. If invoices are not verified in this way, the law makes it much harder for the customer to claim certain parts against tax (e.g. being able to “pass on” sales tax/VAT, which becomes mandatory for even small freelancers to charge where before there was a minimum revenue threshold), so it is expected that businesses will demand verified invoices or risk suffering financial and compliance disadvantages. Of course, in order to issue verified invoices, the traders concerned (which generally includes vtubers, manga artists etc. who in a legal sense operate as sole traders providing services under performance contracts) must be verifiable as well. In this case, that means being exposed in a publicly-searchable database. Apparently the Ministry of Finance chose real names as the method of verification because >The Ministry of Finance is reportedly not considering countermeasures for privacy-related issues, responding that it did not believe that listing a person's real name is "highly risky personal information." According to a representative, the individual's real name was chosen over addresses or telephone numbers as a point of identity verification for this reason. So while it’s “optional” in the sense that you can send non-verified invoices that include 10% VAT that your client won’t be able to deduct from the VAT they collect, in reality that will impose a significant financial burden that is expected to starve out any room to opt out. https://www.pwc.com/sk/en/tax-news/e-invoicing-implementation.html https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2022-09-13/manga-artists-vtubers-fear-japan-new-invoice-system-invites-loss-of-privacy/.189600
>>1539 I should also mention that this sort of thing is very unusual for Japan, which tends to come down very heavily in favour of preserving individual privacy. The situation faced by the pseudonym-heavy parts of the creative industries are a special situation where tax/commercial transparency law and individual rights come into conflict.
What's this rumor about Gura graduating? Her chat gets flooded with it once in a while. Cause of her past identity tweeting once?
>>1544 Seems to be the reason for it, yes.
Riot Music Saki graduated Reason: breach of non-compete
Is it true that Vesper was suspended for going off about trannies in the official Hololive Discord?
>>1600 I can't find any official thing from the usual rumor mills since the usual rumor mills were just shitposting up a storm. Some people are saying he told management to fire his manager and management told him that he was a member of holostars not hololive so he didn't get that kind of leverage. From what I can gather he said "something" that got him in trouble, and his response to management was to fuck off because they weren't helping him succeed as a virtual youtuber. At that point management laid down the book to try and force him to be compliant. Because of that, he fucked off innawoods both to cool his head by getting away from the internet, and as a "fuck you" to management by flexing his chad autism. Management had no access to him if he was away from a computer and thus couldn't do anything, and since they had officially suspended him he didn't have to respond to them during his suspension. tl;dr- Whatever caused him to be in management's bad graces in the first place, it was him going off about management not having his back that actually caused the suspension. Lisper has autism so he was probably "right" but was being too honest.
>>1569 Rumor has it that her previous mates have been retweeting/following someone who might actually be her under a new persona.
>>1538 >>1539 Looks like it's been approved and will be effective in October of the next year. Some organizations are trying to fight it.
>>1606 I just can't see this ending well. Someone is going to get harassed, stalked, raped, or potentially even murdered and then they'll go "how could we have ever seen this coming even though we were told this would happen!?" Seems more and more like the Japanese are trying to crack down on their cash-based society.
Remember The Moe Orbiter? He works at Hololive now https://files.catbox.moe/iufg13.webm
>>300 Maximum irony Gura looks like the chick calling her a paedo, it's like that cheesy Yankee sci-fi "evil alternate reality twin" cliche
>>1718 Is there any recent proof? The video has posts dated from 2020 so I'm not sure if what you're saying is still true.
To answer >>1758: They still have TMSK, but if we consider what happened with Tomoe and Pikamee then by domino effect she'd be next. And they still have the two kouhais but for them I can't say honestly.

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