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The Arena Nene Seal Board owner 09/11/2021 (Sat) 13:04:08 No.2
Welcome to the arena. Despair, ye who enter here. The arena is something of a venting thread. If you have beef with another anon or with a specific vtuber that is getting out-of-hand, you may have discussion moved to this thread. If you want to discuss negative or obtuse meta content of a vtuber such as a boyfriend fuck list or actual pictures of the actress, you must do it here, or on a different board/website. This thread is still moderated, however rules 0 and 6 do not apply here. Have at each other to your heart's content. Please hide this thread by default if this is content you do not wish to see. I would hide it too, if I had the choice. If anon ever gets to the point where he's exclusively only lurking this thread, new rules may come up. At the end of the day, your oshi is a real girl. She may show gratitude and appreciate her fans, but she does not love you. EDIT: As a reminder, please familiarize yourself with the Global Rules of anon.cafe as Romania has laws regarding unlawful violation of privacy and doxxing that this site is beholden to. Should you choose to personally investigate matters, you do so at your own risk. My legal take on this unless the site owner disagrees and corrects me, is that if the information was publicly available at one time, then it does not fall under the Romanian criminal code unless a request for deletion is submitted since it falls under the internet's default fair use license honored by most countries. Should I receive an email or be forwarded such a "DMCA" request, I will post a copy (with names and personal details expunged of course) for transparency in-thread after removing the offending content.
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>>436 Translation?
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So kson is teasing an indie group. Who do you think will it include? Kanatan? Haachama? Some literal who she's friends with?
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>>451 >coco leaves hololive >goes indie and gains a ton of following >makes her own vtuber company with her own policies and freedom This is literally what anons were saying about a year ago way before the taiwan scandal. Sasuga
>>451 That's essentially what anons were saying back when her and Fubuki had about equal sway in the company. I think she'll include people she's friends with. The issue is these "Indie" companies get famous vtubers to do it in their hobby time, but because they do it in their hobby time until it's a valid source of income, they never grow quite as fast as anyone expects them to, I'm sure it will be successful but maybe not as Hololive/Nijisanji-level successful as anons are thinking.
Alright, how many of you niggers crosspost. I feel like I've had one too many brush ups with some of you, especially in the cuckchan "/here/"chuuba sphere (CyberLive, Phase Connect, select indies). And, yes, I am also admitting to that fact.
>>465 I post to here and Smug mainly, while crossposting to PLW once in a while. I also post to /kind/ and /late/'s respective websites from time to time along with briefly lurking the other corners that I deem not infecting my computer with fedware or otherwise reporting information to the feds (and even then only on a VPN). Wish I spoke French to see what the onions are discussing beyond briefly recognizing a word. Only thing I've seen of 4chan in the last half decade or so are archives when looking up the context of something someone was yelling about.
>>465 I mainly post to smug/a/, and sometimes also to here, /animu/, /geimu/ and 4/n/. I lurk 4/vt/, but I'm not the one posting their chuubas. I only posted in VOMS thread, indie thread, Hololive thread, Japanese Learning thread and this thread.
>>466 >>468 Could've sworn I spotted at least 3 smuganons while lurking /vt/'s CyberLive thread, especially since I spotted one call out the other. This is on top of noticing familiar writing styles, but that one's hardly verifiable. Oh well.
>>465 I lurked an occasionally posted when it was made because I knew there were a lot of ENtubers lurking their threads and I like talking shit about ecelebs in places where I know they can see it. However I haven't posted in months and I don't lurk much anymore because it's just the same shit over and over again at this point. Almost every thread is just retards reenacting the same arguments word for word like some kind of liturgy. Also, I've noticed the jannies there are extremely sensitive when it comes to Ina. Any post that even so much as alludes to her being Korean gets deleted within minutes.
>>481 >Ina That's probably because it's a direct segway into political discussion Japanese-Korean relations, which 4chan jannies are terrified of. As much as I like Ina, her Korean-Leaf upbringing are what got her to recommend Bae and Sana over a mutual love of K-pop. Essentially Ina's ethnicity is a ticking time bomb that could start all sorts of artificial drama in a place that likes to gossip and has users more interested in following the gossip than in watching vtubers.
I think this is the best thread to mention the twitch whore fox's russian talk. https://files.catbox.moe/f3m0y1.mp4 >I see how many Russian-speaking people are interested in vtubers. I see it. I told my company about it, they allowed me to make this stream. I hope they will allow me to do these projects in future. I'll not be able to make projects in russian all the time. >Remember, Coco from Hololive, even though she did things in English, she couldn't do full English streams like the half-Russian (sic) stream I'm doing now. >I have...I was given way more rights to do this, but please believe me that I continue to talk to the company, that I will continue to show the clips that you make, I continue to show how many comments and how many people come to watch the Russian streams...the Russian-language streams, sorry [you anglos wouldn't get it but "Russian" in regards to the country, the people and the language doesn't mean the same thing] and...just trust me, even if I can't always [she misspeaks "can"] *laughs*...can, can can, sorry, even if I can't always talk in Russian on streams or do Russian streams, I will keep asking the company and showing the company that there is an interest in this. >So I hope you understand that if you see somewhere in the comments or people will be asking "please, please, please, I want more", I can't always do this, and please give them Coco as an example, that Coco too...she did such half-English streams sometimes, but she couldn't even do a fully English stream, even though her command of English is excellent. >So, yeah. I'll keep showing them, I'll keep telling them. I really want them to allow me to make this stream more often than once a month. >All of this...I don't know if we have a right to talk about this, Coco left Hololive...but the actress who play...the actress, or you could say the vocal actress [she means voice actress] who plays her, she still makes streams and it's very easy to find her. It's very easy...oh, yeah, some people [in the chat] already said it, I'm not sure if I can talk about this, but yeah...you can find her, she still makes, actually just recently she debuted her new character, she was very beatiful. >Well, alright, so...well, alright...I think I said everything I wanted to say, now we will read, we will answer, we will watch, we will do everything. >My God I have four and a half hours left to my next stream. (translation taken from /vt/) >previous life goes full retard to preach to the choir about how "companies don't do enough in politics so streamers have to" for appeal >previous life goes not-quite-full-retard to preach to the choir about kson for appeal This does change how I see her from crazy SJW to appeal chasing cocksucker, but I still don't want to watch her, besides my limited watching time is best spent watching JP vtubers to improve at moonrunes anyway.
>>484 last "previous life" should be "current life"
Korone has fat fingers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyWeAieMpmI Also Okayu violates OpSec (admittedly really easy to do in Japan because of things like Tamago Miso) and doesn't really give a shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4-ZyD9B9nQ
>>456 >get famous vtubers to do it in their hobby time I wouldn't be so certain that's the path she'll follow. Her connections are more far reaching than you'd expect, for example Melody (of stripper fame) alluded to her and kson being friends. She'd have the connections to convince at least some smaller Vtubers to go fulltime, and she has the funding to pay salaries until they make it (keeping in mind, she got a million bucks off superchat in a year, and she stayed on for more than that, with her keeping about 40% of that, plus merchandising income, plus subscription income, plus appearances in other places). Chances are, she made at least a million bucks while she was with Hololive. Assuming she didn't blow it all on Adidas apparel, she's got enough funding to start big, if she wants to go that path.
>>553 >Assuming she didn't blow it all on Adidas apparel Anon, this is the same woman who spent $10,000 on a bed.
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Roboco's body EXPOSED! Mikochi-Ojii had fun playing with her toy robot. Instantly found the swimsuit.
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This is a stupid rule. I would understand if they were the opposite sex, but who cares if Marine's manager is on the stream or not? Also doesn't that just mean Marine has to find a way to have her on without her voice appearing? https://youtube.com/watch?v=iZ29yPEd0XA
>>637 It's utter bullshit. An EN manager, who are all guys, was allowed on the L4D2 collab stream (non voice mind you), and now has a tranny lorefag role too. It is pretty funny to give all of them female avatars with Marine outright stating otherwise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFfutMHp7io It shouldn't be much different from collabing with their mamas, although I could see them not wanting to cause more permanent mane-charas (especially with high turn over rates), that's fixed by just limiting the streams not outright banning them.
>>643 It's not like the girls don't lose Mane-chans that they like every once in a while. I feel like Marine should abuse the voice loophole to have her there over garlic phone or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-yeKueb4mw At least we now know that kson can collab with Holo roommates. Case in point, a threeway collab with Mel and Choco, on the first one's channel.
>>655 Have they been moonlighting as pngtubers for awhile or did they start just so they can stream with her?
>>657 Mel has had that account since 2014. Pretty sure Choco has had hers for a long time too. Both use their alt channels for 3D antics IIRC.
kronii showed up to a stream while stoned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnFil0Vxpo8
>>672 She sounds more drunk than stoned.
>>673 I hope that's the case for her sake. Pot may be legal in Canada but it's very looked down upon by the Japanese.
>Laplus is a former Re:Act chuuba >Lui is a former Re:Act staff and Watame's friend from when both were utaite Cover is just eating up all the good talent from old companies, huh? Then I guess there might be something to the supposed leaks claiming Pinky Pop Hepburn and Miya Kimino are in.
Masked Janny is Mio's friend and the second indie vtuber ever hired for JP(and first since Suisei)
>>971 >>988 Source?
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>>1007 >Okinawa Just don't tell me she fucks niggers and we'll be alright.
>>1008 What makes Okinawa earn that reputation?
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>>1009 28 US Marines.
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>>1009 From 1955: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yumiko-chan_incident To 1995: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Okinawa_rape_incident The US has a long and dark history on Okinawa that they try to cover up. 80% of Okinawans want them gone according to surveys, and even official polling still puts that number between 50-70%. They fudge the numbers by claiming that Okinawans commit crime 6x more often than US servicemen per 10k population, but that's because while Japanese prosecutors have the legal right to prosecute service members, they usually defer punishment for lesser crimes to military tribunals which promptly put them on a ship or ship them back to America to stand trial so that they are not considered part of the Okinawan crime statistics even if the crime took place in Okinawa. This is especially prevalent with sexual offenses such as rape and public masturbation, and in most cases the ones doing it are niggers. As a ratio of the Navy, blacks make up a significantly larger chunk of the naval presence in Okinawa and Germany for the Army/Marines than they do anywhere else Americans are stationed. Officers have openly joked to newspapers (they didn't realize they were talking to journalists) about the fact that rapes are so prevalent among their troops in Okinawa because the US military banned the use of prostitutes. In many cases charges never get brought forward even when the women who were raped are adamant about it, because the perpetrator was black and the prosecutors don't want more mass protests in Okinawa. In many cases the US military doesn't even bring them to the ship for punishment, they just give them the option to be dishonorably discharged. It doesn't help that Okinawa is the poorest prefecture in Japan so they rely on the American military to stay afloat, leading to lots of interracial couples. In fact most of the crime reports that DO make it through regarding rapes and burglaries are usually because it was a US serviceman raping or stealing from another serviceman's local girlfriend/wife.
>>1009 Same as any other overseas US military base: The US forcibly exports its rape apes and protects them from being strung up by the local population. >>674 I heavily doubt it's pot. It's not anywhere as easy to access in Japan as here. You get 10 years for dealing, and 5 for possession, plus tens of thousands of dollars in fines on top. Opium has less punishment than weed there and has the benefit of being less smelly and thus easier concealed. Then again, she isn't an 80 year old Chinese man, so it's probably not Opium either.
>>1011 Also a lot of Japs don't consider Okinawans to be real Japanese so they don't give a shit either.
>>1011 It's also important to point out that the US doesn't even consider Okinawans to be rightful citizens of literally anywhere either, due to the fact that as far as the US is concerned they weren't even supposed to be there in the first place. The US kicked the natives off the island after WW2 and basically intended to turn the entire island into a military base, only to have the natives return in fishing boats less than a year later and begin squatting. Further, according to some military lawyers, the 1970/80s era treaties that turned the Island back over to the Japanese state actually specifically disallowed the native population from returning. The US Military has as a result considered the Okinawans roughly akin to native fauna and the actual 'crime' that gets the dindus and dumbasses kicked out of the military is embarrassing the service, not rape/theft/whatever, since the victim in their eyes has no legal right to complain. The US Military will, however, actively prosecute any idiot that goes after a Japanese mainlander in Okinawa, since the US considers Japanese people to be allies and rightful inhabitants of the island. They just don't consider the Okinawans to be human.
>>1007 I'm 99% sure from looking at it that that's a modem default name and there's probably countless thousands of Wifi nodes with that name all across Japan.
so no one gonna mention some indie doxxed haato with a hilarious rap? haato is pretty based for including it albeit censored in her video anyways
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>>301 >>300 Post the updated one, retard
did miko mention in her xmas mengen why there was no pekomiko collab?
anyone know what was in shion's latest fanbox post she's depressed again
>>1106 No idea. /animu/ and /a/ don't know either from a quick check.
>>1106 shes retiring from the Mario Kart tournament for "mental issues" she will try to return before the end of the month or something like that.
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>Who was that She's joking, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGDxx8fwhzY
Calli was doing so good, and now all of that has been gone now and it doesn't help that she's defending a podcast full of ironic weebs. Fuck anitubers.
>>1162 What gets me is that this Connor guy had a video shitting on vtuber/idol fans and companies, which he later deleted (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR_oOcko-bg was the link IIRC, in case anyone can do something with it) This is a baffling hill to die on.
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>>1164 Yeah, I think it might be this clip rescued from one of /a/'s VTuber threads. But really now: >shits on VTubers and idol cultures >had (has?) girls from HoloID and HoloEN lusting over him I really don't get all of this. Though I think Ame was the only exception, where she got annoyed with him to the point that she blocked him. And if this /animu/ post it's true, then that's just the kicker.
>>1165 Yeah, that's the one, thanks. The post is from me, and it's easily proven: There's a ton of clips of their "relationship" because it's what normalfags think is cute. Any one of them just looks like them joking around. But she's constantly "jokingly" flirting with him, and after a while you realize it's an ...unless? situation. It makes sense, she is a normalfag forced to live a robot life, that fucks them up emotionally. Him playing along though is just fucked up. No way he doesn't realize it either, he isn't autistic.
>>1164 What he and I suspect some of the people he's talking about don't understand is that waifuism is the new religion, and vtubers and idols are just an extension of that religion. We literally call them idols, after all, and people show up and give them praise and money for no reason at all. When vtubers come into the equation things get a little more complex, and if the object of worship breaks character then of course the viewers will get mad. They're worshipping the image, not the person behind it.

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