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The Arena Nene Seal Board owner 09/11/2021 (Sat) 13:04:08 No.2
Welcome to the arena. Despair, ye who enter here. The arena is something of a venting thread. If you have beef with another anon or with a specific vtuber that is getting out-of-hand, you may have discussion moved to this thread. If you want to discuss negative or obtuse meta content of a vtuber such as a boyfriend fuck list or actual pictures of the actress, you must do it here, or on a different board/website. This thread is still moderated, however rules 0 and 6 do not apply here. Have at each other to your heart's content. Please hide this thread by default if this is content you do not wish to see. I would hide it too, if I had the choice. If anon ever gets to the point where he's exclusively only lurking this thread, new rules may come up. At the end of the day, your oshi is a real girl. She may show gratitude and appreciate her fans, but she does not love you. EDIT: As a reminder, please familiarize yourself with the Global Rules of anon.cafe as Romania has laws regarding unlawful violation of privacy and doxxing that this site is beholden to. Should you choose to personally investigate matters, you do so at your own risk. My legal take on this unless the site owner disagrees and corrects me, is that if the information was publicly available at one time, then it does not fall under the Romanian criminal code unless a request for deletion is submitted since it falls under the internet's default fair use license honored by most countries. Should I receive an email or be forwarded such a "DMCA" request, I will post a copy (with names and personal details expunged of course) for transparency in-thread after removing the offending content.
Edited last time by NeneSeal on 09/12/2021 (Sun) 20:51:26.
>>1338 Unfortunately for you we also have a little bit of drama today, and it involves BO's favourite Super Hyper Deluxe Idol. Turns out she's been found out tracing images for her anniversary goods.
>>1341 Announcement video on her channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Te_S31al0Yw
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>>1341 She got caught again, eh? That's pretty funny. >>1343 It can't be helped, problem resolved already with the artist. She's very childish so these things will happen sometimes.
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>>1343 >This is Momosuzu Nene. >I am still very inexperienced with drawing art. >I tend to reference art drawn by artists I respect. >I am truly sorry to the artist. >As announced by Cover Corp, I have already apologized to the related party. >Going forward, I hope you'll continue to allow me to continue doing the art streams that I so love. >Thank you for listening. Damn, I don't get to hear serious Nene that often. She could do some sexy ASMR if she did serious voice more often.
Oh right, pic related was Namori's response to Nene's tracing.
>>1346 Your first pic is broken
>>1349 >>1351 I know. Blame a server-side connection error.
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Are you ready?
>>1365 theres an obese man in her apartment!
>>1365 What is it with some VTubers and their atrocious opsec?
>>1369 They are literal brain dead attention whores. What do you expect?
>>1365 I didn't think someone as energetic as Ollie would be fat.
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Many countries I would give her the benefit of the doubt. Even in Japan, cops will opportunistically go after foreigners. Japanese police don't go to your door though unless you have done something heinous or they need to get ahold of you for mundane reasons. Stop doing drugs, Callie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9Kd8TeGkIs
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Would you guys be interested in playing in the Infinity Cup? It's the tournament that they're making over at the >>>/icup/ board and they're a few teams short.
>>1402 Not really, but if other anons are interested I don't mind. There's 3 or 4 lurking around.
>>1403 >>1402 Don't know jack about soccer but we could very well use https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/ as a base. Would be fun as a diversion, I reckon.
This seems like the same like the right place to bitch about this. I think Holo EN would be better if they only debuted three members per generation like they did with ID. Gen 1 - Ame, Ina, Gura Gen 2 - Irys, Bae, Kronii or Fauna or Mumei. I don't know, I don't watch Council much.
>>1417 Isn't Irys a Gen 1.5 of sorts? I agree otherwise with you, anon. I would exclude Fauna from Gen 2 and have Bae, Kronii, Mumei and Sana as it. Fauna is a bit of a weak link for me.
>>1418 >Isn't Irys a Gen 1.5 of sorts? Yeah but she debuted just before Council and is better than any of them. >Fauna Like I said, I watch very little of Council but the only thing I dislike about Fauna so far is the fake-sounding voice. Then again, I'm a big fan of Luna so I'm in no position to criticize someone for using a fake voice.
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Reaper and Chicken have grown on me even though I hated them at first, but a Gen1 debut without them would have been much more orthodox and kept much more drama out of HoloEN, permanently changing HoloEN. I won't say for the better, but definitely it would be more Japanese and in-line with idol culture. We'd miss out on some good content, but also a lot of the more crass content that brings down the entire group, so I don't know if I would call that good or bad. I think without a Calli figure to take the heat off Gura, Gura would have quit since she was dealing with alcoholism and other issues during the first few months after departing from her Senzawa persona. As for Gen 2, I have admittedly not watched them enough however for the most part they have all been "safe." Fauna concerned me since she's a massive slut IRL, but she's played it safe (fake, but safe) since her debut so I don't see her causing drama since she enjoys her income, which only leaves Kronii during her long-stream episodes (she gets migraines or something and becomes loopy? I don't know), and I haven't watched Kronii enough past her debut and collabs to form an opinion about that. Bae is a true otaku which comes across as a gap moe but we probably wouldn't get that side of her if Gen 1 had debuted the way you wanted so I don't know how to feel about that. Overall I think HoloEN would be "boring" the way the newer HoloJPs are boring without the bad apples so I can't hate them too much. It took me a long time to come to that conclusion though. Kiara provides a business sense and pushes corporate boundaries in the background to allow for new/different content, and Calli, despite being a wigger, provides a different musical outlook and takes the heat off other member's antics by being twice as despicable as any of the others could ever hope to be. IRyS and Bae couldn't be so smug/gap moe degenerate as they are without Calli as a baseline to work off of. None of Gen2 are particularly great on their own, however they all work well in collabs both with one another but especially with Gen1. Mumei by herself is a bit of a control freak and bland (makes sense she's a college liberal arts student) when not in psychopath mode such as during the Needy Streamer playthrough, but she has good art symmetry/contrast with Ina, helps Ame actualize ideas, and makes for an excellent conversational partner with Gura since their total two braincells combined is like watching two bakas come together to create something new and exciting in their own baka way. Kronii's smug pairs nicely with most of Gen 2 and being good friends with Ina IRL lets the two of them crack jokes in a natural and expansive way. Sana is just a bundle of pure fun bringing Aussie shitposting to the table.
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Watame's boyfriend has been found after she slipped up and revealed a bunch of nicknames on her switch(just buy a work console you dumbass, not like you can't afford it). Tweets 5ch found indicate they've been dating since 2013 and as far as 2018 there were no plans to marry yet, but it does seem like a serious relationship if they have been together for 7 years. This is the guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGTbDZmorqM High-level IT pro by trade, dancer on the side.
>>1430 Is this old or did it happen a second time? I'm pretty sure I remember hearing about the exact same thing with Watame's Switch a year or so ago.
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https://archive.ph/9KmJc >Some vtuber tries to push loli dakis as pedophilia >Gets kicked out by her agency Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
>>1445 If the replies are right in that the company didn't screen the talents beforehand then that's also a huge mistake.
>>1430 I'd be mad, but he has nice moves, so I forgive. Speaking of which, Nakiri Ayame hasn't streamed in over a month.
Anything special going on? Some Holos had subscriber only chat due to bots the last few days. Was it another grave offense against the West Taiwanese people?
>>1456 Youtube laid off their entire double-checking department so now it's incredibly easy to spam a streamer's chat with accounts that have porn names/pfps and get them banned.
Someone on both /a/ and /animu/ was saying that Korone is taking a break because of negativity on the Internet. Can someone confirm what exactly happened?
>>1465 dunno really, checking her last YT stream and many comments repeat that.
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Kson has decided to join VShojo. Ain't that great.
>>1452 Cuckold.
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Okay I need to pee SO BAD HOLE LEE SH*T I need to go, I need to go I need to go, I need to go, I need to go I need to go, I need to go I need to go I need to go I need to go Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god I need to pee I need to pee, I need to pee I need to pee, I need to pee I need to pee I need to pee, I need to pee My god Ah hur hur hur hur hur Ah dur dur dur dur dur dur
>>363 What's this about Kiara? >>1513 Alas. I don't know much about VShojo other than pink cat bad. Is there more?
>>1533 Kiara had a habit of being outspoken about BLM and other such activism while in character. Many found that, coupled with some other early behaviour, contrary to what they expected from Hololive. VShojo is mostly known for bringing American camgirls to virtual living, since a good percentage of their original batch of talent had that background, as well as being the home of PINK CAT BAD. If you know what to look for you can take a sniff of their business relationships and decide whether you find them savoury or not. My personal impression is that most of their talent is a bit mediocre and quite hard to like. The mystery is why a powerhouse like Kson would need or want to join up with them, or indeed with any agency like them, in the first place.
Pippa has released a video where she mentions that Japan is implementing a system where VTubers and manga artists will only have "verified" invoices if they use their real names and they don't have regards to privacy, however /a/ mentions that this regulation is applied on a case-by-case basis. How much of this is true?
>>1538 I looked into it a little. It has to do with a new law that requires all businesses (including freelancers and other traders who do business under their own names, which includes vtubers and manga artists who are usually sole traders rather than employees in a legal sense) who issue invoices to register those invoices with the Financial Directorate before they’re sent. This means that the tax authorities gain real-time logging of transactions, among other advantages for the government. When an invoice’s particulars are registered, the Directorate returns a QR code containing a signature or link that “verifies” the invoice for the customer receiving the invoice to check. If invoices are not verified in this way, the law makes it much harder for the customer to claim certain parts against tax (e.g. being able to “pass on” sales tax/VAT, which becomes mandatory for even small freelancers to charge where before there was a minimum revenue threshold), so it is expected that businesses will demand verified invoices or risk suffering financial and compliance disadvantages. Of course, in order to issue verified invoices, the traders concerned (which generally includes vtubers, manga artists etc. who in a legal sense operate as sole traders providing services under performance contracts) must be verifiable as well. In this case, that means being exposed in a publicly-searchable database. Apparently the Ministry of Finance chose real names as the method of verification because >The Ministry of Finance is reportedly not considering countermeasures for privacy-related issues, responding that it did not believe that listing a person's real name is "highly risky personal information." According to a representative, the individual's real name was chosen over addresses or telephone numbers as a point of identity verification for this reason. So while it’s “optional” in the sense that you can send non-verified invoices that include 10% VAT that your client won’t be able to deduct from the VAT they collect, in reality that will impose a significant financial burden that is expected to starve out any room to opt out. https://www.pwc.com/sk/en/tax-news/e-invoicing-implementation.html https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2022-09-13/manga-artists-vtubers-fear-japan-new-invoice-system-invites-loss-of-privacy/.189600
>>1539 I should also mention that this sort of thing is very unusual for Japan, which tends to come down very heavily in favour of preserving individual privacy. The situation faced by the pseudonym-heavy parts of the creative industries are a special situation where tax/commercial transparency law and individual rights come into conflict.
What's this rumor about Gura graduating? Her chat gets flooded with it once in a while. Cause of her past identity tweeting once?
>>1544 Seems to be the reason for it, yes.
Riot Music Saki graduated Reason: breach of non-compete
Is it true that Vesper was suspended for going off about trannies in the official Hololive Discord?
>>1600 I can't find any official thing from the usual rumor mills since the usual rumor mills were just shitposting up a storm. Some people are saying he told management to fire his manager and management told him that he was a member of holostars not hololive so he didn't get that kind of leverage. From what I can gather he said "something" that got him in trouble, and his response to management was to fuck off because they weren't helping him succeed as a virtual youtuber. At that point management laid down the book to try and force him to be compliant. Because of that, he fucked off innawoods both to cool his head by getting away from the internet, and as a "fuck you" to management by flexing his chad autism. Management had no access to him if he was away from a computer and thus couldn't do anything, and since they had officially suspended him he didn't have to respond to them during his suspension. tl;dr- Whatever caused him to be in management's bad graces in the first place, it was him going off about management not having his back that actually caused the suspension. Lisper has autism so he was probably "right" but was being too honest.
>>1569 Rumor has it that her previous mates have been retweeting/following someone who might actually be her under a new persona.
>>1538 >>1539 Looks like it's been approved and will be effective in October of the next year. Some organizations are trying to fight it.
>>1606 I just can't see this ending well. Someone is going to get harassed, stalked, raped, or potentially even murdered and then they'll go "how could we have ever seen this coming even though we were told this would happen!?" Seems more and more like the Japanese are trying to crack down on their cash-based society.
Remember The Moe Orbiter? He works at Hololive now https://files.catbox.moe/iufg13.webm
>>300 Maximum irony Gura looks like the chick calling her a paedo, it's like that cheesy Yankee sci-fi "evil alternate reality twin" cliche
>>1718 Is there any recent proof? The video has posts dated from 2020 so I'm not sure if what you're saying is still true.
To answer >>1758: They still have TMSK, but if we consider what happened with Tomoe and Pikamee then by domino effect she'd be next. And they still have the two kouhais but for them I can't say honestly.

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