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Fantasy Weapons, Armor, and Armaments Strelok 11/19/2020 (Thu) 21:05:24 No.9363
A thread for all sort of all sorts of /k/ related things that range from cool to cursed.
Your mother.
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>>9363 >>9365 >>9366 >>9367 this is all awful and your thread fucking sucks you get two more posts to make things right or you're going to the shadow realm
>>9369 Quit whining and post something better, faggot.
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>>9369 I'm sorry I don't know how to do better.
>>9373 >>9374 Not bad, certainly stylized but still look practical unlike this utter trash>>9366
>>9369 You won't do shit nigger.
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>>9376 I just discovered this artist today and I sort of like his style.
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>BO thinks he's the arbiter of content on a dead board not OP but if you insist What is the practicality of plasma-based weaponry being used in the near future? If energy-producing technology ever gets modular and efficient enough to slap on every gun, would it still be practical? Would aircraft/spacecraft of the future look similar to how it does now? Would fighter craft in space look similar to how modern jets today look?
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>what would you do if had a time travel machine /pol/ /k/ is halal because someone mentioned the kaiser >a picture thread of actual armaments is haram because BO doesn't like that gay art style Why are you like this BO
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>>9373 >>9374 these are good, thread stays I like seeing how concept designers try to smuggle magazines into alternative locations on the gun or try to address getting extra capacity. would really fuck with the weight balance but if it's The Future then everyone allowed to have a gun is JC denton augmented right >>9372 >no u gonna cheat with real examples >>9380 if there isn't air resistance in space i don't see why wings would still be retained except for weapons placement
>>9380 >plasma guns The future of small arms is subsonic rail guns. pics unrelated
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>>9381 >>9381 was the left image from earlier in the show? never watched star trek, but it seems interesting that their designs seem to become more weapon-like in later seasons.
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>>9385 If you mean the type 1s they weren't really used all that much and all but disappeared by the time of TNGs midrun.
>>9386 yeah, the stuff from the earlier show really doesn't look weapon-like but the type 2 stuff, even when it's clearly based off the original design, still becomes increasingly more weaponlike with later iterations.
>>9380 How can you keep it as a projectile though? i guess it would work in space, but i can't see it being practical anywhere with an atmosphere.
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>>9388 Yeah with the Type 3s they definitely become more like a practical weapon and the Type 2 was going the same way until TNG turned them into vacuum cleaners, and then sometime in the far future they turn back into a more standard form. The farther you go back in the timeline the more practical they become with ENTs weapons and uniforms being the most usable out of them all.
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>>9388 >>9390 In TOS they just made them ray guns, then in early TNG Rottenberry refused to let them make the phasers look too much like guns, and once he died they gradually started to get more weaponlike again.
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>>9393 nerf guns have excellent designs
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>>9393 also reminds me of this
>>9391 I love futuristic big ass anti-materiel rifles
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>>9393 >>9394 I remember going to the park close to my house when I was a kid and playing with my cousins/neighbourhood kids all using nerf guns or even airsoft the cops would probably be called within minutes if I was young and tried that today along with a news story about children being corrupted by gun culture. I hate this shitty world lads.
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>spamming toon guns thread Too can play at this game.
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>>9398 BUT HOW DOES IT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORK.
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Reminder that the unfinished sequel to this had an official Microsoft Flight Combat Simulator mod and as far as I know no one has uploaded it yet.
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>>9404 You can find the J7W and its variants in mods for IL2-1946 and the old men are still autisiming on that game with BAT so if someone gave them the idea it could be created at some point in the future. fuck I'm almost out of fake stuff to post
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>>9373 >first pic Trying to imagine that red bull as either coolant or a type of energy source (fuel cell) which the latter makes sense for obvious reasons. Is this some kind of borderlands fanfiction design? >>9382 >wings for weapons placement The only reason to have wings are on reentry vehicles and having weapons mounted would cause too much friction either damaging the system to the point of it malfunctioning with every use or destroying it all together. And by now, that and directed energy weapons/torpedo/missile bays are already understood on /k/ to be the primary storage methods for space loitering.
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we can only wish that rpg was fantasy
>no command & conquer
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>>9393 >>9398 Why not both Fallout AND Nerf? God, FO4 had such shit weapon design.
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>cnc Nice stuff IS that a rocket buggy from Generals or a dune buggy from tib sun?>>9417 >>9417
>>9418 Cnc 2013/ generals 2 there isa quite nive site that has a lot of cnc concepts https://cncnz.com/gallery/command-conquer-concept-art/
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>>9421 Doesn't say anything about its range, though it must have worked in some way if it became classified
Here's some mundane ones. Simple rifle. >full length bolt-action >wood stock >5-10 round internal magazine >iron sights and easily applicable scope >bayonet applicable >.308 Winchester >single-shot .50 cal modeled after an arquebus "Scout/patrol" rifle >semi-automatic carbine >20-round mag >.357 >full-bodied wood stock >weighs about as much as a Ruger carbine >in fact it's essentially just a 10/22 in .357 Some guy made 10-round magazines for the Ruger 44 but they cost $100+ and it looks like they're no longer in production.
>>9434 First is practically any scout rifle on the market minus the bayonet lug.
>>9411 >missing that dancing jumpjet trooper concept art with 4 arms
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>>9405 >You can find the J7W and its variants in mods for IL2-1946 and the old men are still autisiming on that game with BAT Man, I should try getting into flight simulators again someday. >fuck I'm almost out of fake stuff to post You might be interested in that /agdg/ anon's Dorf RTS. I'm not sure whether he posts on zzzchan's /agdg/ thread or .moe's these days, but last I remembered he was posting neat shit pretty often and it's definitely worth following. >>9425 It's really disappointing how few people have seen or talk about Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise these days. At most you'll see feminists and soys complaining about that one scene, or maybe someone posting the rocket launch scene and nothing else. You'd be forgiven for assuming it's just a war movie with neat planes or that the rest of it is boring because people only post one clip. It isn't. There's way more to it than that. Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honneamise is a very ambitious movie and takes being set in an alternate history way, way further than any book, game, or film I've ever heard of. Most content themselves with "what if X happened instead of Y?" or "what if X unfolded differently?", but this goes much, much further. The people behind this film asked "what if everything was different?" and as part of this set out to redesign all the commonplace objects, tools, and machines we see daily and take for granted, and not only did they succeed, they succeeded in ways which actually make sense. It's almost like watching a movie filmed in a very foreign country where that country is not the sole subject, but the setting. Even without all this attention to detail it's a really good movie, this just completes it and transforms it into something far greater than it has any right to be. I've rewatched it two times with friends over the last several weeks and I'm still amazed such a film exists. I can't recommend this movie enough. If you have any friends into /k/ stuff, design, or are the walking encyclopedia type, it's the kind of thing you'll get a lot out of by watching it together and talking whenever something catches your eye. It's great stuff and unless the world gets a lot better or I'm overlooking something huge, you probably won't see anything like it again.
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>>9455 Fugg, two images didn't go through. In hindsight part of me wishes I'd skipped through the movie and screencapped a bunch of stuff from the movie. Still, I'd rather not spoil it and a lot of that stuff is best seen in motion anyways. >>6683 in the webm thread prompted me to revisit this movie and whoever he is, I can't thank him enough. I saw it once many years ago but I was too young to appreciate it back then and probably wouldn't have revisited it without him.
>>9455 >>9456 Something else I should mention is that if you're the type who spergs about muh christcucks, you probably won't enjoy this.
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>>9456 Benefits of a small board huh, there's only a couple dozen of us here.
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I might have some weapons of one sort or another from my pulp art folder.
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>>9380 Plasma is cool well, not really and all but I can't see any practical way to fling it around, especially not the way the Gallente do it. My understanding is that they use cyclotrons to accelerate matter to relativistic speeds, accumulate it into a glowing death ball and then fling it at the nearest threat to Democracy™. However, having any radical difference in temperature causes the hotter thing to cool down ridiculously fast so you want the plasma ball to be flying ridiculously fast. Now while I've never played EVE, I have played Dust and none of the plasma bolts seemed to fly at relativistic speeds and were, in fact, even slower than the Matari bullets. IRL most of the blasters would have just been a dangerous waste of energy. The shotgun would have worked just because of how pathetic its range is and the fact that we already have the MARAUDER. However, if you were to fire the relativistic particles directly at the target like a particle beam instead of fucking around with magnets, I can see that working. Or alternatively you could fire them through a smaller, weaker plasma beam. >>9389 Plasma would be even more useless in space because space naval fights happen at long range and the plasma would lose too much energy via black body radiation. Again, I can see a particle beam working because if it doesn't glow it doesn't lose energy. >>9381 Most of the things posted ITT are entirely impractical as weapons to the point where they aren't even worth discussing as weapons. You posted a fucking TV remote that atomizes people with magic and asspulls. At this rate we may as well discuss some magic dildo from a doujin you read that brainwashes anybody you fuck with it.
>>9548 Whether they're practical or not is not the point of the thread these are fantasy weapons. The P.1000 and P.1500 for example will never ever work in anything but fantasy, however that doesn't mean that we can't speculate on them or post art of how some people think they could have appeared.
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>>9548 >At this rate we may as well discuss some magic dildo from a doujin you read that brainwashes anybody you fuck with it. Hey now, that thing could revolutionize espionage. You'd have to be very careful transporting it, mind you, and if enemy intelligence learned of it they'd probably waste a bunch of time trying to capture it through baiting you, but it would still be disproportionately more useful than most of the stuff in this thread, especially if you could make more than one. >>9559 pic 2 is for you
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Man, this thread went from straight shit into comfy
>>9563 A universe without land battleships and air carriers is a pretty shitty one. Those prototypes look so derpy, some really look like dildos.
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>>9567 Even if it's a fan model, w40k is w40k, so now I feel free to post these.
I Have some designs from Cyberpunk 2020.
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Why the fuck am I getting flooded.
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Huh shuh guh.
Nigger America Hollywood.
Duck duck dad.
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Chuck her in.
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>>9568 Chaos always has far better looking vehicles than the Imperium. Well Khorne does anyway. Ans I guess GHR if you take Doomwheels into account.
>>9562 Oh, I'm not denying that a brainwashing device of any form would be incredibly useful in a war. But what's the point in discussing it if it is fictional and we have no idea how it works or what its limits are? There's gotta be some basis on reality, or at least have the setting thought out enough that things in it can be discussed. Besides, I prefer doujins where the sub gets brainwashed not through magic but just because the domme is really good at fucking with his head and... well, fucking. >>9559 If you want to speculate, why did you post Star Trek? You can't speculate on something that has no basis beyond a director saying "I want [thing] to happen" with a generous sprinkling of irrelevant science words. If you wanted to post art, why did you post a fucking TV remote? Post something cool or pretty.
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>>9617 My dude I'm starting to think you're just angry it's star trek so here's someones autism on how they could function. and a tricorder because those are neat
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>>9617 >doesn't like hypnosis inductions to be fair, almost nothing has them >gay
>>9638 t. sissy hypno-watching tranny
>>9640 >sissy "hypnosis" It may be a weapon, but hypnosis it ain't.
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>>9618 I do dislike Star Trek, but that was more my way of saying "post more cool shit and less dumb shit" than me having a grudge against Spock or whatever. >>9638 I'm not gay, Strelok! I'm a sub! I just want a sexy domme to take the sad voice away and replace it with love, devotion and happiness.
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>>9373 >third image Has anyone ever developed anything like this? It seems like the sort of thing that someone would come up with.
>>9727 A gun where the barrels are integrated into the magazines? Why would you even want to develop such a travesty? You are massively increasing the cost and weight of your spare mags for no good reason. At that rate you may as well go pirate mode and carry 20 spare guns on you that you just toss away instead of reloading.
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>>9739 Indeed, you should instead have a single barrel and as many magazines as possible.
>>9727 What is the ring used for? aesthetics?
>>9739 What if it allowed you to cheap out on the barrel and therefor the manufacturing of the gun? Like you made the barrel out of aluminum or something like that one shotgun did and every so many thousand or so rounds or so you just ejected the barrel from the mag and swapped in a new one. Or maybe you even go even further than that and have a mag of just barrels that auto eject after the appropriate number of shots. I know that some niche guns already have a barrel life of only a few hundred shots. Having a quick swap barrel could make them more viable. >>9742 Knowing that particular artist I'm going to hazard a guess and say it's a keychain. I'm actually more puzzled about what the zipper pull on the side of the gun is all about.
>>9739 >>9746 What about integrating a suppressor to the magazine? It slips over the muzzle instead of replacing the whole barrel, fires however many shots through rubber wipes, and after a magazine's worth of shots the rubber wipes are holey and less effective, so you discard them with the magazine. When you reload the magazine, you also clean out the suppressor and add new rubber wipes. Then that "zipper pull" on the outside could be a latch to tighten some sort of gas seal when you swap magazines, to prevent all the gas trapped by the suppressor from blowing out the back. That aside, the gun in >>9373 is clearly an energy weapon, and the "magazine" and "barrel" are marked as being a battery, so this is all rather irrelevant.
>>9747 >is clearly an energy weapon, Well that explains the on button.
>>9363 My contribution. It seems pretty realistic to me.
>>9746 >Like you made the barrel out of aluminum or something It still has to deal with the pressure just the same, so that's a no-go. A better explanation for an integrated barrel-magazine combo is that the cartridge is such a throat-burner that a barrel can't stand two whole magazines without the rifling completely eroding. Also, you could make the barrels significantly cheaper in this day and age by using electrochemical machining: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/02/18/rifling-barrel-electrochemical-machining/ https://archive.vn/ANP1R
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>>9755 >It still has to deal with the pressure just the same, so that's a no-go.
>>9774 If you shoot a high pressure cartridge with that barrel it would fucking explode, because it couldn't withstand said high pressure. Shotgun shells are so low pressure that yes, you can use aluminium barrels. The only way a barrel should allowed to ˝go wrong˝ is by wear on the inside of the barrel. Using inferior materials will just risk an explosion at every shot.
>>9755 >A better explanation for an integrated barrel-magazine combo is that the cartridge is such a throat-burner that a barrel can't stand two whole magazines without the rifling completely eroding Or that it's full auto and heats the barrels up. >>9775 I can't help but think that there would be some way around that such as using gyrojet ammo or flechettes. Or using lower powered ammo. OR it just being a shotgun and instead of using aluminum for the barrel, it uses something even cheaper and lighter like zamac or magnesium.
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>>9661 First one looks great but needed two barrels in each hand instead of all 4 in one. He's not even shooting and it already looks like the recoil will be impossible to control.
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>>9746 I've always seen pictures of this gun but how well does it actually work? The one video I found of it firing the projectile only went about a couple meters underwater. Is that how far they wanted it to go or was this gun a big disappointment to the Russians? >>9812 If all matchlock rifles looked like that my faggot country would honestly try to ban them.
>>9819 >I've always seen pictures of this gun but how well does it actually work? The one video I found of it firing the projectile only went about a couple meters underwater. Is that how far they wanted it to go or was this gun a big disappointment to the Russians? I don't know a lot about it but it must have been relatively successful because a successor rifle was made to the APS that used the exact same system and just added on an attached pistol under-slung the barrel so that users would have an option for above water shooting that won't damage the barrel of the main gun and wouldn't tank the range and accuracy.
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>>9822 >just added on an attached pistol under-slung the barrel I can't seem to find any info about a under-slung pistol the only successor rifle I can find is the ASM-DT pics related which fired both 5.45 and 5.45MGTS the MGTS rounds used for underwater shooting. It took both ak-74 mags and the same mags that the APS used. From the Wikipedia page >"The magazine release shifts forward when using AK-74 magazines, and the gas system automatically adjusts for firing out of water. To enable accurate shooting when outside of water, the barrel is rifled, however it has shallow grooves running along its length, which expel some gases ahead of the bullet and blow any water out of the barrel. This prevents the barrel from bursting if the rifle should need to be taken to the surface quickly, and fired outside of water without being drained first." I can't seem to find any videos on this rifle, I wonder how well it actually worked during combat. or if it ever did see combat Also do you have any links or pictures on the under-slung pistol you were talking about?
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>>9819 >If all matchlock rifles looked like that my faggot country would honestly try to ban them.
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>>9857 >First pic Kek I wouldn't be surprised if that got lambasted by my country's (((media))) as a hyper deadly assault rifle or if they even did a modicum of research they would be screaming that it's and "EVIL NAZI RIFLE". >Second pic AK's are already banned anon please don't rub salt in my wounds. Even worse because ever since I was a little kid I wanted an AK after watching my dad play CS 1.6 >>9658 I always liked the looks of the ODST SMG.
>>9824 >I wonder how well it actually worked during combat. The troops thought it was too long and heavy, didn't like the size of the magazines, and had trouble quickly switching from underwater mode to dry mode (especially in the dark). A few years later someone developed an improved underwater round that fits in a standard 5.45 magazine, which gave us pic related. >Also do you have any links or pictures on the under-slung pistol you were talking about? I think something got lost in translation. The Soviets had developed an underwater pistol (SPP-1) in parallel with the APS, so if a frogman expected to shoot things both above and below water he'd be issued both an SPP-1 and some variety of AK.
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I'd like to see "retro" versions of modern fire arms. You know people do "demakes" of games? Same thing. I'd like to see shit like matchlock ARs and flintlock AKs, that sort of thing. Either concept art or actual functioning builds made from parts kits or similar. Has anyone seen anything along those lines?
>>10160 You could check out Khyber Pass guns, or old ramshackle shit in Africa.
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Found some of his older stuff.
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>>11864 Couldn't you have used invidio?
Try to imagine fantasy weapons in the hand(s) and pretend on how reload process would go. It's fun. >>11864 >>11865 I do remember there was a script to change YouSuck into Invidious automatically (either by redirection or by changing links), but it was written before official instance was shutdown. Need to see if shit was been updated. I wonder if there's script that also make you to jump on random or most responsive instance.
>>11865 I was just lazy.
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>>11871 This thread blows chunks, it's not even discussing fictional weapons it's just endless pictures of concept art. Railguns are the coolest fantasy weapons. When they're scaled down to humanoid sizes they become devastation and you get into full hillbilly mode. Railgun blunderbus loaded with wrenches, screwdrivers and nails leaving a new canyon where a base used to be would be a 10/10 weapon
>>11874 >Railgun blunderbus loaded with wrenches, screwdrivers and nails leaving a new canyon where a base used to be would be a 10/10 weapon I don't think a railgun would work very well like that given how they work. Now a gauss gun blunderbuss would work great.
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Probably the bio rifle from UT
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>>9739 >You are massively increasing the cost and weight of your spare mags for no good reason. >ammo load so hot that it destroys the barrel in 10 rounds >120" penetration of hardened steel from bullet >no good reason
>>9610 Khorne looks goofy but at least it looks like something that concieveably would be on a battlefield. Tzeentch is magitech shit, so its all wizardy and floating Nurgle looks cool with things like the biomechanical theme for things like Blight Drone and the Contagion (Nurglefied Baneblade) but then you get stuff like the plague tower which just looks tacky. Slaanesh just glues tits and/or dicks onto everything and calls it a day. I think Tau battlesuits and Necron Tomb constructs look pretty cool too
I want to see soft top carriers, where a runway is built from segments or where planes are launched from boosters on open ocean like V2's
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>>9425 For you
>>9619 This isn't actually actual concept art for Planetside is it?
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>>12054 What anime is this? This nice.
>>12054 Shining toy guns. I'm going to check this out.
What are your favourite alt-history weapons /k/. I know that this is kind of retarded, but whatever Also I'll post some southern victory vehivles and what not Last pic is supposed to be a realistic version of RA2 tank destroyer
>>14436 >Pics didn't post It's the middle one.
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>>14437 These are supposed to be medium? Confederation barrels
>>14438 Some more
>>14437 >UK rifle is just a tavor with a slimmed down handguard and aug carry handle didn't pay for a creativity loicense it seems
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>>14459 Yeah, that's actually the problem with majority of alt-history guns. I've still seen worse. Like the spoilered pics.
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>>14464 They can get pretty whacky though.
>>14466 Yeah they can.
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How do you guys think would tanks/barrels look like in southern victory like timeline? How would whermachts guns look post ww2? Also how would military technology continue if the industrial Revolution happened later ea. In A.E.I.O.U steam engine was created in 1880s in bohemia. How would it look like?
>>14522 Everything would be made of copper and cheese.
Does someone have more like 2nd pic?
>>14952 *1st pic
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>>14952 >2nd pic That is some big ass barrel.
>>15119 It's a late war proposal modernisation of pz.4
>>12604 Pretty sure it's Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honnêamise. Lots of big names worked on it before they were big names. Bandai, who would become THE anime toy comany, Studio Ginax later to be of Evangelion fame are the 2 big ones I can remember
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M61 Eisenhower Main Battle Tank Crew: 4 Country: United States of America Other Users: European Alliance, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Egypt Builder: Chrysler Defense Armament: 1x M68A1 105mm 1x M2 12.7mm HMG (Turreted) 2x M204 7.62mm MGs (1x COAX) By the end of the Second World War the United States was equipped with a mix of M4 Sherman II tanks and heavier M48 Patton MBTs. The M48 continued to be upgraded through the 1950s and early 60s. However by the late 1960s the U.S. Army was concerned that their armor was falling behind the curve. Beginning in 1965 the European Alliance introduced a series of new tanks. These were better armored, armed, and ahead electronically then the latest Patton tanks. Not to mention Soviet rearmament had been ongoing since the early 60s. Worried about how the M48 would compare to the Chieftains, Leopards, and Soviet ‘Rhinos’ the Defense Department announced that it would hold a competition for a new MBT in 1966. After much debate and testing Chrysler’s XM61 was chosen. The M61 had many improvements compared to the M48. New composite armor, electronics, and crew survival systems were incorporated into the design, named for General Eisenhower. A new feature of the M61 was a separate ammo compartment that kept the crew away from the tank’s explosive ammunition (a feature in all of the European tanks and new to the T-64). Blow out panels and thick blast doors protected the crew in the event of a penetrating hit on that compartment. Fire suppression systems were also built into the engine and turret. The 105mm cannon that armed the Grizzly, was a licensed copy of the British L7. An innovative feature of this new gun was a stabilization system. This allowed the Eisenhower to fire while on the move. Room was left in the turret for new technological upgrades in the future. The first fleet of M61s was armed with simple low light night fighting systems, but replacing these with new thermal sights coming online in the next decade was very easy. The tank commander had his own controllable turret armed with a M2 HMG that could be targeted with a periscope and sight. It also allowed the TC to fire his MG under cover. After its production went into full swing the M61 was fully equipped to the 1st Cavalry Division and 1st Armored Division. It is not known how but the tankers of both heavy divisions christened the new tank the ‘Grizzly’. The name stuck perhaps because it was easier to say in than Eisenhower. Crews enjoyed the fire on the move ability of the M61 along with its high powered engine. However the speed was also achieved by less armor. The special composite nature of the armor did provide better protection then just steel, but this lack would become a weakness in the next war. Grizzly tanks found themselves in combat only hours after the Soviet invasion of the United States in June of 1975. Eisenhowers from Fort Hood and other military bases in Texas ran head first into Red Army T-64 ‘Rhino’ tanks with their powerful 125mm cannons. It was quickly discovered that while the Grizzly had fine frontal protection, it had weaker side protection that could be penetrated by the Rhino’s main weapon. The Grizzly could move faster though and shoot while moving, something the Rhino lacked. Despite weaknesses to the Soviet T-64s and even more powerful T-72 Apocalypse tanks, the Grizzly could hold its own against larger Soviet numbers. Shoot and scoot became the motto of American tankers. Quickly moving from defense positions and killing Russian tanks on the move. The Grizzly’s deadly ability increased with the introduction of thermal sights and depleted uranium shells for their 105mm guns. Combined with a new ballistic computer and laser range finders, the technological gap between the Soviets and the American forces grew, in the USA’s favor. As war production swung into full swing, the U.S. was able to supply export M61 Grizzlies to the European Allies. Poland who used a mix of equipment received a large number of M61s and used them in the defense and counterattack launched by the Europeans. The Grizzly would serve through the entirety of the Third World War. Many M61 crews received fame and awards throughout the war. M61A1s have been sold too many other nations to equip their armed forces. The latest Grizzly models are being upgraded with a 120mm cannon and new armor of British design. These with additional electronic upgrades will allow the M61 to continue to match any other tank around the world.
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>>15339 T-64 Rhino Main Battle Tank Crew: 3 Country: Union of Soviet Socialist Republic/ Russian Republic Other Users: Ukraine, Islamic Union, Iraq, Syria, Algeria, Libya, Cuba, Mexico, Pakistan, African nations, Republic of China Builder: Morozov Design Bureau Armament: 1x D-81T 125mm (Smoothbore) 1x NVST 12.7mm HMG 1x 7.62mm MGs (1x COAX) Unlike the Western Powers the Soviet Union had to rebuild its armed forces from nearly scratch. Due to the Treaty of Geneva signed by the Allied powers and USSR at the end of World War II, the Red Army was severally restricted. It was only allowed to have enough divisions to maintain a proper defense of the Soviet Union. Heavy weapons particularly tanks were limited to only a few divisions. Neither the United States nor European Alliance ever wished for the USSR to threaten them again. These restrictions left a bitter taste in the senior Soviet military leadership. However the rebuilding of the Soviet industry and agricultural centers following the war was the main priority for CPSU leaders. From the 1950s till the early 60s the Red Army was forced to use the IS-2 Heavy Tank and other AFVs left over from World War II. Things not might have changed if not for the bickering amongst the Allies. Europe too needed to rebuild following the Second World War. The massive damage across Eastern Europe, Poland, and Germany was their primary concern following the war. The Alliance wanted a quick withdrawal from the USSR so their money could be spent on reconstruction. Leary of maintaining sole responsibility for the Soviets; the United States began a pullout shortly after the start of the European one. More control was handed back to the Soviet Union and eventually the CPSU leadership was able to operate without restrictions. As a result the Soviet Union was able to move freely to secure its borders in the late 50s. Unrest that had begun in the former Soviet Republics was spilling over into the USSR itself. Eager to stop the unrest and to regain control of their former states, the leadership in Moscow announced it was sending in the Red Army to restore order. The Europeans and Americans, not willing to go in and aid the former republics themselves allowed the Soviets to carry out their incursion. Sensing weakness and distrust among their former enemies, the Red Army began as series of small modernization and research programs for their armed forces.
>>15340 True re-armament of the Soviet military did not occur till the rise of Alexander Romanov as General Secretary of the CPSU in 1960. Romanov had worked in the postwar government. He had played a critical role in protecting the Communist Party from being dismantled by the Allies following the war. Now as General Secretary he informed the armed forces that he intended to seek re-armament. Much of the work began in secret but once it was known that the Europeans and Americans would not protest Soviet rearmament it was pushed into the open. Among the first things addressed by the Red Army was the creation of a new main battle tank. The end result was the T-64. As with pervious Soviet tanks it focused on firepower and armor. There were however a number of interesting changes. First was the abandonment of a circular round turret. Designers opted instead to build an angular western style turret including the use of blow out panels with an ammunition bay in the turret. One major complaint by veterans of the Great Patriotic War was the tendency of Soviet armor to explode its ammunition when the turret was breached by a round. Although the T-64’s system was not up to Allied standards, it was better then nothing. A very new idea for the T-64 was the addition of big 125mm smoothbore cannon. Western designs used rifled tank barrels. The smoothbore feature doubled the range of the gun and increased muzzle velocity. Later models of the T-64 would be able to fire anti-tank missiles from their cannons. The fourth crewmember, the loader, was eliminated from the tank. A new electric automatic one took his place. Good armor protection combined with the powerful gun did lead to a slower tank. When shown the first production models General Secretary Romanov remarked, “Look at this gun, a fine gun. Very long like a Rhino’s horn.” The comment by the Secretary was not forgotten by the Soviet Defense Minster or his deputies. As a result the T-64 was soon called the Rhino much to Romanov’s delight. First revealed to the Western Powers in 1963 during a parade in Red Square, the Allied observes were dismayed to see how far the Soviets had come in such a short time. An American military officer working in the Embassy in Moscow wrote that the T-64 incorporated a series of new features while maintaining a low silhouette. Rhinos first saw combat in the hands of Soviet clients in Africa. The formation of the World Socialist Alliance gave the USSR a number of allies and weapons testing ground around the world. T-64 Rhinos in the hands of Libyan tankers and some Soviet ‘advisors’ saw combat against Egypt during a border dispute in 1965. It was quite superior to the M48s in Egyptian hands. Numerous teething problems with the engines were found during the combat in Africa. New production versions of the Rhino corrected the problem. Even though the T-64 could not outclass the latest Western designs, the sheer numbers produced combined with their firepower and armor protection would ensure victory according to leaders of the Red Army. All the Soviet Motor Rifle and Tank divisions were using Rhinos by the time of World War III. American Grizzly tanks were overwhelmed by Soviet numbers and surprise in 1975. Many of the attacking Rhinos also included a new defensive armor. Explosive Reactive Armor was something the Russians had been experimenting with in-between the World Wars. A block of explosives the ERA was designed to defeat HEAT warheads. Soviet tankers were thrilled as American TOW and Dragon missiles failed to kill them. The ERA did not always protect the T-64s nor did they stop the sabot rounds fired by M61s. In a series of crushing battles the Rhinos swept into the American plains and devastated U.S. forces in early battles. The T-64 was the mainstay of Soviet forces throughout the war. It’s heavier and more complicated cousin, the T-72 Apocalypse Tank never entered the war in sufficient numbers to phase out the Rhino. As the Americans rallied and began their counterattacks during the war they did so with increasingly effective equipment. The Soviet research and development departments found it hard to keep up with their Western counterparts. As a result the Rhino began to fall behind the curve of new tank improvements. In the end the sheer number of T-64s produced worked against the USSR. The Soviets simply couldn’t afford to add thermal sights, new electronics, and other high cost upgrades to the thousands of Rhinos that had been made. Still the T-64 served till the end with the fall of Moscow. Although many were destroyed during the war, numerous T-64 Rhinos lay in storage for the reserve divisions of the new Russian Republic. Others were used to equip the armies of countries like the Ukraine, China, and Islamic Union. Cuba, Iraq, and other former WSA members are still using T-64s ensuring that the Rhino will be in service into the 21st Century.
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>>15341 M112 Prism Tank (Prisma in German Service) Crew: 3 Country: United States of America & Germany Other User: Germany Builder: Rheinmetall Landsysteme/ General Dynamics (Land Division) Armament: 1x LM-57 DEW 1x MG42 As the war raged between the USA and USSR, American weapon designers began seeking any possible advantage to get the edge over the Soviets. Various ideas were considered. Many while ambitious were not practical for the current war effort. In late September of 1972, several members of the Rheinmetall Landsysteme came to the American government in its temporary capital of Ohio. The European Alliance had for the moment chosen to assume a policy of neutrality, officially. Unofficially Germany was one of several European nations willing to supply the Americans with covert assistance. The R.L representatives presented the USA with designs for a new weapon system. It was a new directed energy weapon system, similar to a laser. Much of the work on the DEW had been done by Albert Eisenstein during his last few years of life. The famous World War II physicist had worked on a way to amplify the power of light by reflecting it off a series of prisms. However the first set of lasers and prisms he had to work with lacked the power needed to be an effective weapon. Too much energy was also required to start the process. Only large bulky generators could provide it. Eyestone abandoned the work shortly afterward. Germany’s defense department had discovered this work again in the earlier that decade. Over the next five years they managed to research and develop a working prototype. It was fixed and mounted in a large tower. New lasers combined with a special artificial diamond prism inside the tower boosted the power incredibly of relativity low powered lasers. This DEW tower was simply called a Prisma by the German designers. In tests the tower could damage equipment and weaken armor. In wasn’t till a freak accident was the true power of the weapon. One test involved two Prisma towers firing on a signal target. A computing error led to the first tower firing its beam not at the target tank but the other tower! Instead of damaging the tower, the beam went into the wrongly targeted tower’s emitter. It bounced off the prism inside and fired at the original tank target. In a flash the front of the target was melted and damaged. Further tests confirmed that the power of the Prisma beam was increased if the beams were fired between towers, bouncing off and gathering strength. If enough towers were linked they could destroy a heavily armored Leopard I tanks in a single blast. The system could also rapidly engage multiple targets. To the United States a series of Prism Towers built into defensive lines could be a God send. American forces needed an edge against the mass Soviet tank forces advancing across the Midwest and Great Plains. RL was willing to provide their designs to the Americans for a price. Besides the finical cost, the U.S. would help design an AFV version of the Prism weapon. The M112 was the final result of German/American efforts. Containing a miniaturize Prism DEW turret, it also held a specially designed American power pack. This engine and power plant was able to provide enough energy for the vehicle and DEW. No fancy names were attached to the tank, simply being called the Prism Tank. GIs referred to them as PTs in short communications. The Prism Tank was designed on a light IFV chassis. A drawback to its design was very weak armor. Nearly all the weight came from the special power pack that powered the M112. Only able to withstand some small arms fire, it was easy pickings for any Soviet AFV or even conscripts armed with RPGs. As a result the Prism was used mostly in a battlefield artillery role. With their long range the M112s could attack fixed Soviet targets from long range and pummel them with energy. Like their fixed tower cousins, the Prism Tanks could combine their fire for devastating affect. A receiver reflector at the rear of the DEW turret could receive a beam from another M112 or Prism Tower. In defensive battles, groupings of M112s and Prism Towers could break up Soviet armored assaults. In the first deployments of the Prism systems Russian tankers had no clue what happened to them. Their reports frustrated Soviet commanders who couldn’t understand what happened. Finally a combination of field experience and information from the KGB revealed the true nature of the powerful white light. This began a frantic effort to duplicate the Prism technology. Soviet efforts failed due to a lack of understanding of the process and their poorer technology base. Plus American Special Forces destroyed the Prism research base in Mexico. Eventually the Soviets tried to eliminate the problem by staging air strikes against the Prism production sites in Germany and America.
>>15342 These air strikes helped drive the Europeans into declaring war on the Soviet Union. Germany had already produced a number of Prism Tanks, called simply called Prisma. They were used by the German Army much in the same way as the USA. The tanks blew apart Soviet defense weapons and positions. Often the Prismas destroyed anti-aircraft weapons to bring in additional air support. Their battlefield role was limited. The Prism weapons could not accurately target aircraft. Most of the air to air kills came against Soviet helicopters. Despite their limitations the Prisms preformed well. A new generation of Prism vehicles and DE platforms are expected in the next few decades including ones for air defense and even ballistic missile protection.
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>>15343 -76 ‘Tesla’ Tank Crew: 3 Country: Union of Soviet Socialist Republics Other User: Ukraine Builder: Mytishchi Engineering Works/OBK 417 Design Bureau Armament: 2x TE-45 Electrolaser Emitters Wartime Addtion: 1x MG (7.62mm or 12.7mm) Part of Soviet rearmament efforts during the 1960s included the look into new technologies. With many restrictions placed upon the Red Army following World War II much of this work was carried out in secret at first. General Secretary Romanov hoped that by deploying new battlefield weapons and technology that the USSR could match or even exceed the advantages possessed by the European and American militaries. As a result new research and development cities were founded in the vast empty spaces of Siberia. One of the first areas researched by the scientists at these sites was Tesla technology. In the last year of the Second World War, the USSR deployed powerful defensive weapons created using research of Nickola Tesla. Using modified Van de Graaff generators, the Soviets were able to create bolts of artificial lighting. These shots however were very unpredictable. If they did hit a target, it inflicted massive damage. However these first generation Tesla Coils required massive amounts of power. As a result they were only deployed near major Soviet bases and cities. Often they were rendered useless as soon as the power was cut. Romanov however was fascinated by the weapons, he wanted them recreated and improved. The scientists working at OBK 417 were able to follow through with the General Secretary’s orders. Soviet bases had new and improved Tesla weapons. Improving on Tesla’s first design, the scientists created an electrolaser. The emitter for this weapon was similar to a Tesla Coil but combined with a low power laser. A Laser-Induced Plasma Channel is created. This LIPC acts the same way as a natural plasma channel does for a lighting bolt. The electric charge is then sent down the LIPC, creating a devastating weapon. Using the laser in the first part of the process allowed the Soviets to finally control and targets their Tesla weapon (which was the preferred name over electrolaser). While the new Tesla Coils were produced, a few OBK 417 scientists wondered about making a mobile version. Using an experimental light tank chassis, they mounted their Tesla Coil onto it. Test after test followed, in which it was learned a ‘Tesla Tank’ could be created. However smaller and more powerful electrical generating systems were needed. A new trade and technology agreement with the Empire of Japan in 1968 gave the Soviets the final part needed. New efficient Japanese batteries and power systems would allow the Soviet designers to build the Tesla Tank. The first production models enter service in 1972. Unlike other Soviet weapons, the PT-76 was complex to produce. Even after being militarized, the electrolasers were still delicate weapons and the new tank carried two of them. Numerous problems were found during the first three years of deployment. These were worked out but did not slow construction time. With the teething errors corrected the PT-76 Tesla Tank was a deadly vehicle. Combat tests in Mexico and USSR showed that the electrolasers could inflict horrible burns and fatal injuries against infantry. Not even the heaviest body armor could shield people from the artificial lighting. The affects against vehicles depended on the target’s range, armor strength, and electrical system. At close range the Tesla Tank could punch holes in even heavy armor of Grizzly tanks. Many times at longer distances the PT-76s disrupted or even destroyed the target’s electrical systems. U.S. GIs were particularly afraid of the PT-76s calling it the Zat Track. While the Tesla Tank was an interesting Soviet weapon it was in service inside the Group of Soviet Forces America in limited numbers. The long time it took to produce the PT-76 combined with its delicate nature compared to other Red Army AFVs kept its numbers low. Many were lost through poor use by Soviet commanders in the invasion of the United States. Unlike the Rhino Tank, the PT-76 lacked the heavy armor of the T-64. Nor could it be protected with ERA, the explosives would damage the TE-45 emitters and their electronics. With only 9mm of armor on the turret the Tesla Tank could be damaged by 12.7mm heavy machinegun rounds, let alone ATGMs and cannon shells. In addition to its armor weakness, the PT-76 could not target aircraft. The tracking systems and LIPC could not engage fast moving fighters or fighter bombers with any accuracy. Without the support of mobile SAMs or AA guns, the PT-76 was very vulnerable to attack helicopters and aircraft.
>>15344 Most of the PT-76s were used in a backup or rear echelon role. KGB Security units took in many Tesla Tanks for use in subjecting the Americans behind Soviet lines. The Tesla Tanks became a symbol of Soviet oppression, as the KGB used them to kill American insurgents or collaborators. In the most famous incident, a company of PT-76 tanks were used to burn the small town of Calumet in Colorado to the ground, in February of 1976. Nearly all of the town’s residents were killed by the Tesla Tanks. As World War III turned against the Soviets, the Tesla Tanks found themselves used in a defensive role. Like their adversaries before them, the PT-76s often were used in ambushes. Groups of Allied infantry or armor were hit by Tesla Tanks hidden with other Red Army forces. The light armor on the PT-76s again proved to be a weakness as they were often destroyed by the return fire of Allied units. By time of the European invasion of the Soviet Union the majority of all PT-76s had been destroyed or captured in the American theater. European Alliance troops encounter the majority of the Tesla tanks deployed with the Red Army, many of which were lost. With the destruction of the Mytishchi Engineering Works factories by Americana and European airstrikes, the PT-76 could no longer be produced. All remaining models are in service with the Russian Republic’s army and the armed forces of the Ukraine. Reports indicate that Iraq and several other nations have expressed an interest in acquiring the Ukraine PT-76s which have been kept mostly in storage. It is unknown whether the PT-76 will every enter service in large numbers ever again; however its place is secure in the history of unique military weapons.
>>14952 >>14486 >>14470 >>14468 It would be great if those authors added more perspective to those drawings, it would be a bit difficult trying to make models out of that.
>>15531 Well those were made just for the design stuff. I've seen a few with multiple angles, but not much.
>>15558 Nice collection thanks.
>>15559 No worries.
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>>15558 sexy pixel art man. ^^ if here, on this thread are some ho 229 pixel art drawings I would be glad to see.

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