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"The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war." - Otamin


Russia Vs. Ukraine 23 for a 2023 - Happy New Year Edition Strelok 01/14/2023 (Sat) 17:11:43 No.46206
Current Happenings: >Soledar has fallen >Western countries panicking and sending mass amounts of money/armor to Ukraine >Most of this equipment is useless in the Donbass but could be used to strike towards Melitopol >Allegedly surrendered Ukrainian conscripts have a lot of frostbite and/or tuberculosis >Norway, Canada, and the Baltics rushing to supply Ukraine with winter gear >Russians attempting to encircle the Northern Bakhmut route >Spreading out to Pidhorodne and Klishchiivka >Ukraine will either have to counterattack soon (now, at great losses) or abandon Bakhmut soon >Ukrainians continue to hold the train stations on the outskirts of Soledar- Western maps claim this means Russia owns none of Soledar >tl;dr- Bakhmut/Soledar aren't important towns, but Ukraine has turned the two towns in the bottom of a valley in perfect range of artillery into important towns with their turning them into a meatgrinder >Russia restructured their military >Official line is that Gerasimov was above Surovikin in rank and thus was always in charge of the war >Unofficial line is that the Russians only intended to use Surovikin to get the war back on-track to not ruin Gerasimov's reputation >Tensions between the military high command and Wagner after the Russian military refused to accredit them with the capture of Soledar because Prigozhin called Shoigu and Gerasimov fucking idiots >Ukraine seems more panicked about this change in leadership while Russian citizens/infantry seem somewhat pissed off >Military forced to make a statement explicitly praising Wagner after massive civilian backlash on social media >Ukraine's Mozart group (foreign PMC) is claiming they "only perform humanitarian missions and don't engage in combat" >Ukraine caught using seven figure missiles to shoot down five figure drones in Kiev >Strikes on Dnipro suggest that Ukraine has expended most of their surface-to-air missiles >Surovikin, having retained his post as head of the Russian Air Force, is likely to be involved in further bombing runs that will be credited to Gerasimov (unless a new front opens) >Russia is expected to attack "somewhere" in the net month or so >Ukraine seems to be in a panicked state because they don't know where Russia will strike from >Lukashenko reminded the Kiev regime that any attacks on Belarus (now head of the CSTO) will be seen as an attack on ALL CSTO nations >Russians mobilizing in Belgorod, Zaporizhia, and Mozyr suggesting there will be a repeat of Russia's "attack from every direction then send reinforcements to whatever sticks" strategy under Gerasimov Link Dump: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/traduzir-paginas-web/ https://web.telegram.org https://fotoforensics.com https://trashchan.xyz/finance/ https://yandex.ru/news nitter.net https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/attack-on-europe-documenting-equipment.html (documents equipment losses; strong Ukrainian bias) Maps: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/6/viewer?z=6&mid=1iE-0CwiZnHYtLgndqU3l2G7VInoZE9o (THETI maps: shows both troops deployments and conflict areas) https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1_JYk9u6A-TBxADdy2oqLfjFQr5koKT8 (Weeb Union Map) https://mobile.twitter.com/Suriyakmaps https://militaryland.net/ukraine/deployment-map/ https://militaryland.net/tag/maps/ (Daily updates) https://liveuamap.com/ (Ukrainian propaganda map) https://maphub.net/Cen4infoRes/russian-ukraine-monitor (Intentionally up to a week old) https://opermap.mash.ru/ (Russian propaganda map) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Russo-Ukrainian_War_detailed_map https://militarymaps.info/ (requires Russian social media account and Russian payment processors) http://defensepoliticsasia.com/Ukraine/ (requires giving DPA $12/month now) Channels: https://www.youtube.com/@WeebUnionWar/videos (Weeb Union - Shortest briefing but accurate) https://www.youtube.com/@Theti/videos (THETI Mapping - More detailed briefings but sounds like a teen) https://www.youtube.com/@historylegends/videos (French Comedian/Historian) https://www.youtube.com/@militarylabb/videos (Numbers and brief overviews of the day's news; no bullshit) https://www.youtube.com/@militarysummary/videos ("Breaking news" Belarusian take on the war - Subject to Russian Army fanboyism sometimes) https://www.youtube.com/@newworldecon4517/videos (Covers Economic matters in regard to Ukraine, updates on the frontlines, shorts, and other things) https://www.youtube.com/c/MilitaryandForeignAffairsNetwork (Military and foreign affairs network; slightly pro-Ukrainian and uses militaryland maps allowing him to cover more specific military groups and pockets at the cost of less breaking news) https://www.youtube.com/@WiU/videos (Least biased "breaking news" Reddit "OSINT" take on the war) https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday (Patrick Lancaster reporting from Russian side) https://www.youtube.com/c/GrahamPhillipsUK (Graham Phillips less personal more professional reporting from the Russian side) https://www.youtube.com/c/AlexanderMercourisReal (Alexander Mercouris; Discusses the geopolitical issues of policies and their effects) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgGHiivhFq7M_1MLemh-cjg (Singaporean take on the war - Typically a day or two old and shits on his userbase) https://www.youtube.com/@dpa-war/videos (DPA's war-specific channel now) https://www.youtube.com/user/Itapirkanmaa2/videos (Z) https://www.youtube.com/c/UkraineCombatFootage/videos (counter-Z) https://www.youtube.com/c/DjukiSan/videos (Z2) https://www.youtube.com/c/RoadHomeMotorcycleVlogs (Ukrainian propaganda channel)
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UK commits to sending Ukraine Challenger 2 tanks, going further than Biden admin https://archive.ph/h2iGp A new challenger approaches!
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With all the conscripts on the field it's probably a good idea for anon to learn his Russian curse words. >Чё ты сделал? Ты ебанутый? - What the fuck did you just do? Are you fucking crazy? >Пиздабол - A Fucking Liar >Ты где блятъ был? - Where the fuck were you? >Ебанутый - Fucking crazy (usually referring to someone) >Иди нахуй / Пошёл нахуй - Fuck off/Go fuck yourself (used more dismissively) >Отъебисъ от меня - Get the fuck off of me (used more emotionally such as when someone's trying to fuck with you) >Долбоёб - A Fucking Idiot >Что зтот хуй здесъ делает? - What is this dickhead doing here? >Пидор - A faggot >Распиздяй - A freeloader (in curseword form - someone who doesn't take care of themselves and has no goals) >Страдатъ хуйнёй - To fuck around (literal translation is "to worry about something pointless" - хуйнёй means something that's worthless/useless in a bad way) One way this might be heard in Russian videos is "Хватит страдатъ хуйнёй. Нужно работать!" - Stop fucking around, there's shit to do. >Завали ебало - Shut the fuck up >Мне похуй - I don't fucking care / Тебе похуй - You don't fucking care >Уёбок - Not really a good translation for this one. It's a generic insult like "asshole" or "fucker" >Ебатъ - To fuck (someone over) can be used as a substitute for блять >Ебатъся - To fuck someone (have sex) >Это пиздец - No good translation, closest English equivalency is "we're fucked/we're done for" usually used to refer to when someone does something so bad you're royally fucked (literal translation is "that cunt") >хуй - A dick (literal) >Нахуй - For fucking what/what the fuck? >Блять (t) - Oh Shit/Fucking Shit (not literal shit but as an expletive, basically the Russian equivalent of "FUCK") >блядъ (d) - A whore/a bitch >Сука - A bitch (closest equivalent) >Пизда - A cunt (literal) >пиздец - Fucked (usually used in "ето пиздец" - We're fucked) >Пиздетъ - To Lie >Ето был пиздец - It was a disaster
>>46210 If you could spell these out phonetically that'd be great Also what are the major differences between Russian and Ukrainian as languages?
>>46212 >If you could spell these out phonetically that'd be great Learning the alphabet is not that hard, I don't even speak Russian yet somehow managed to pick it up over the years due to exposure. >Also what are the major differences between Russian and Ukrainian as languages? According to experts proper Ukrainian is closer to Polish than to Russian, but many people in Ukraine are bilingual and speak a sort of a hybrid Ukro-Russian (or Russo-Ukrainian) language, and often they themselves have no idea about their exact linguistic identity.
>>46212 >>46213 Also, I vaguely recall that back then when in the Austro-Hungarian monarchy the Galician peasant (Galicia being the part of Poland that ended up in Habsburg rule) often didn't know their national identity, so censors usually just asked them how they say something (I think it was the word used to say ”yes”), and depending on their answer they counted them as either Polish or Ukrainian. Moreover, it was not that uncommon to write Ukrainian with the Polish alphabet.
>>46209 Isn't it the Challenger 2 that is supposed to be this super duper tank that is better than the Leo 2 but the British stopped producing it for some reason?
>>46215 Challenger 2 with combat armor is 76 tons. Good luck towing it when it's disabled or getting it across Soviet bridges or pretty much most of the bridges in Europe. If they insist on supplying armor to Ukraine, it should be one that won't cause more infrastructure damage than the Russian cruise missiles.
>>46209 >UK commits to sending Ukraine Challenger 2 tanks The UK doesn't have tanks to spare after decades of defense cuts. At least this is the war the Challenger was designed to fight, rather than pissing about in deserts to support zionism, so we may get to see how good (or bad) it really is. It's also a big risk for Britain as a poor showing will undermine the deterrent credibility that the Challenger currently enjoys based on it's (propaganda) reputation for being hard to kill. I reckon Russia will relish the chance to take one out and propagandize it. Even better if they can capture a wreck and reverse engineer it. That PM wallah is playing with fire when he could have sent Ukraine some old Chieftains, assuming they're still in reserve. The risk of hothead hohols charging those tanks into a trap and effectively handing them over to Russia is so great I wouldn't be surprised if the UK is sending tank crews as well. Can't risk losing your MBT to incompetent operators. Another complication is that the Challenger's gun doesn't fire standard shells. They use bag charges like a naval gun so there's the whole question of ammunition logistics. As far as I know this system is unique to the Challenger and only Britain makes the charges. Maybe it's just military tokenism but it seems like a dumb fucking move to me.
>>46217 >They use bag charges like a naval gun so there's the whole question of ammunition logistics. Akshually, it goes back to a ww2 German field artillery piece, and I don't know about any naval gun with a sliding breech block that used bagged charges only. In fact, one of the problem with German capital ship turrets was that they needed casings to work, and so they needed to make the turrets bigger so that the crew could handle those. Although apparently the real problem was that the breeches were horizontally sliding, so the turrets had to leave way too much space between the guns. But I digress, the important thing is to visit other threads on the board: >>13756 >>13759
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>>46212 Pics related. >Also what are the major differences between Russian and Ukrainian as languages? Spoken there isn't much. Most of the differences are in the written language. Examples: (Ukrainian first, then Russian) мати (ma-ti) мать (ma-tyeh with a soft yeh) Mother ніс (ni-ss) нос (noh-ss) Nose зерно (zier-no) зерно (zer-no) Grain травень (travenyeh with a soft yeh) май (Mai) May звідки (Zvidki) откуда (ohtkuudah) Where from ранок (ra-knock) утро (uu-troh) Morning червоний (cher-vokii) красный (krasnuii) Red другий (Druugii) второй (Vtoroi) Second людина (lyoudina) человек (chelovek) Person Як справи? (yak cpravi) Как дела? (kak dila) How are you? чай (chai) чай (chai) Tea паспорт (passport) паспорт (passport) Passport комп’ютер (com'pyuutehr) компьютер (com-pyuutehr) Computer Some words have different meanings but similar spellings like час (chass) being "time" in Ukrainian but specifically an hour in Russian, неделя (Nedelya/Nedilya) being Sunday in Ukrainian but "a week" in Russian, and лук (luuk) being a bow in Ukrainian but an onion in Russian. The "G" sound is interchangeable between G and H in Russian but is almost always an "H" in Ukrainian, "O" is very pronounced in Ukrainian whereas it's usually a softer sound in Russian, and Ukrainians tend to "break syllable" with a hard pause instead of just making a soft sound inbetween. Ы becomes "ee/ii" in Ukrainian whereas it's either more of a forward-jaw "ui" or "ih" in Russian. Like >>46213 mentioned it's hard to tell where the Russian ends and the Ukrainian begins with Ukrainian because it's more of a "soft transition" from the Russian language into the Polish language so different regions will sound more Russian and others will sound more Polish.
>>46206 Nice OP Strelok.
>>46219 >лук (luuk) being a bow in Ukrainian but an onion in Russian Russian one has both meanings. >it's hard to tell where the Russian ends and the Ukrainian begins That is 100% true, Russian and Ukrainian exist on a sort of spectrum.
>>46219 >Щ in English kek why must this be an eternal shitshow Щ sounds exactly like "sh" in English, shed, wash, shit, ash, the 'c' in ocean, 'ch' in Michelin. Instead it's transliteated as 'shch', 'sch', or even 'chtch' last one might be French? for some reason I don't comprehend. On the other hand I'm struggling to come up with any examples of a proper Ш sound (ostensibly 'sh') in English, closest I can think of is Shah but still not quite it.
>>46252 You seem to underestimate the 'tism of linguists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_phonology#Consonants >/ɕː/ is also always soft.[53] A formerly common pronunciation of /ɕ/+/tɕ/[54] indicates the sound may be two underlying phonemes: /ʂ/ and /tɕ/, thus /ɕː/ can be considered as a marginal phoneme. In today's most widespread pronunciation, [ɕtɕ] appears (instead of [ɕː]) for orthographical -зч-/-сч- where ч- starts the root of a word, and -з/-с belongs to a preposition or a "clearly distinguishable" prefix (e.g. без часо́в [bʲɪɕtɕɪˈsof] (help·info), 'without a clock'; расчерти́ть [rəɕtɕɪrˈtʲitʲ], 'to rule'); in all other cases /ɕː/ is used (щётка [ˈɕːɵtkə], гру́зчик [ˈɡruɕːɪk], перепи́счик [pʲɪrʲɪˈpʲiɕːɪk], сча́стье [ˈɕːæsʲtʲjə], мужчи́на [mʊˈɕːinə], исщипа́ть [ɪɕːɪˈpatʲ], расщепи́ть [rəɕːɪˈpʲitʲ] etc.) And here is a whole page dedicated to this single sound, and according to it said sound also exists in Polish, Japanese, and Portuguese, and it is slightly different from the sh of English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_alveolo-palatal_fricative The real problem here is that the human mind is wired to gloss over unimportant differences, especially in speech, but what counts as unimportant difference is different in every language. A well-known example is that Japanese sound that is not exactly like the r of most other languages, and yet nearly everyone hears it as such. Then the Japs themselves can't tell apart r and l, and native speakers usually replace both of them with their own r sound. So if the average Russian speaker can reliably differentiate /ɕː/ and /ʂ/, then saying that the former is exactly the same as the /ʃ/ of English is simply wrong, especially if you want to learn to speak the language with as weak an accent as possible.
>>46253 >but what counts as unimportant difference is different in every language Another fun way to see this is in tonal shift. Chinese has it outright, but Japanese only has it implicitly. Foreigners from Europe mistake high and low pitch as being how long the vocalization is held for most of the time and end up sounding like they have a thick accent. Most European languages have tonal shift built in as well but it's largely been lost because of foreign interactions since the "rules" of tonal shifting were already "dying" from the language among native speakers. As Japanese continues to interact on an international stage and use more and more loanwords, the same will happen in a few centuries.
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>>46210 >Eskimos have a hundred words for snow >Russians have a hundred words for "shit's fucked" >Americans have a hundred different genders
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>The first video of the training of Ukrainian soldiers on the American BMP M2A2 Bradley ODS, which will be delivered to Ukraine in the coming months. The footage was taken from the troop compartment of the combat vehicle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcnKa-fMEn4 Russians took the train station in Soledar.
>>46269 Like a caveman discovering fire.
>>46269 why does the tank door have to be motorized, and open at three inches per second?
>>46286 so US taxpayer can be charged an extra 500k per unit
>>46286 What are you going to manually lift up or drop a door that weighs a thousand pounds?
All this time, I've just wanted to watch Putin launch a Special Nuclear Operation for the salt that it would generate. I want to watch faggots on Reddit and all the Ukrainian nationalists on Twitter cry as their puppet state leader and his shithole country gets obliterated. It would be hilarious if NATO did jack shit because Ukraine is not in NATO. Especially salty if the United States "boots on the ground" get obliterated as well. https://theintercept.com/2022/10/05/russia-ukraine-putin-cia/ Hopefully Putin's daughters get drone bombed, Ukraine re-takes Crimea, and Azov fighters attack Moscow skyscrapers all at once.
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>>46299 is this AI?
>>46300 No it's just another faggot getting mad that a war is taking too long for his liking.
>>46291 Couldn't it be mechanically counterbalanced?
>>46313 Yeah, at six times the price after markup. This is military equipment. Military equipment is infamous for being made from the cheapest materials possibly available at 2x-100x markup. My dad worked as a civilian contractor in the 80s for a while and told me you'd see shit like $50 for a sack of 100 nails, or $100 for a $0.25 capacitor all the time.
>>46291 Why not have it open to the side so the hinges do most of the work?
>>46318 There's a secondary door.
>>46318 Then it couldn't double as a ramp for differently-abled soldiers in wheelchairs.
>>46318 Sometimes a ramp is just better overall. If you've ever worked in muddy terrain, jumping down from even a few inches is enough to get stuck in the mud or lose your boots resulting in minor trench foot that night from your socks soaking through, while the same is less true with a ramp.
>>46209 Do the hohols know how to use them?
>>46321 Jumping down in general is just a good way to fuck your legs right up since presumably you will at times disembark into uneven terrain at risk of landing partway in a hole or making one in some rotten log or whatever, especially if your hands are full at the time.
>>46318 So Ukraine can recreate another one of their D-Day style river crossing operations.
>>46269 Inb4 the pigs make the Bradley work like the jews did the F-15.
>>46323 No and they won't get much chance to learn. Expect the tank crews to speak Ukrainian with heavy English accents.
>>46327 >Inb4 the pigs make the Bradley work like the jews did the F-15. I'm not understanding the point, Strelok?
>>46327 They only have 50 of the things. They could bunch them for a large offensive, but I doubt Ukraine has enough troops unless the ones being trained by the US and any mercs they can scrounge up are getting ready for a new offensive. Otherwise you split them up along the front and continue to add to the punishment of Ukranian logistics moving around all the ammunition, though at least they can use the TOW missiles without a Bradley.
Apparently, our favorite lolcow Arestovich made a slip and told that that apartment getting deleted in Dnepropetrovsk was actually the result of Ukrainian SAM veering Russian Kh-22 missile off course. He wrote resignation letter this morning after Ukrainians got really upset at that comment.
>>46349 >favorite lolcow no, this isn't kf, and I do not mean this in a disrespectful manner please elaborate on the situation
>>46350 He was the official Ukrainian damage control man, saying shit like "Russia now has 80 less missiles they'll run out soon!" after every massive infrastructure strike etc.
>>46350 >this isn't kf Fair enough. Maybe I shouldn't have used that specific term. >please elaborate on the situation Arestovich is,what can be described as Ukrainan goverment/military PR person. Often he would make absurd claims that have no bearing in reality, such as "Russians fell unto our trap at Lisichansk" ," We shot down 27 out of 25 missiles" ," Russians didn't hit shit with missiles, we're just having rolling blackouts to confuse them" paraphrasing the last one One of apartments block in Dnepro was hit by Russian missile, Ukrainians went with usual 'Russia terrorists' while Russia claimed it didnt target it on purpose, but Arestovich made a slip in an interview and said Ukrainian SAM tried to shoot down the missile and it made it crash into residential building after knocking it off course. Naturally this didn't fly with Ukrainans and they got really upset, threatening Arestovich and demanding his resignation.
Since nothing much appended last two days here quick run down of little stuff >There was a rumor of Britain intent to supply Apaches to UAF, but the rumor was quickly dispelled, supplies Bulldog APC instead >Much to the dismay of Russian Army, Russian generals banned purchasing of private vehicles and have cracked down on possession of smartphones. Russian soldiers claim they won't be able to use drones without smartphones and lack of privately purchased vehicles complicates logistics, utilization of roaming mortars and MEDIVAC in emergency. >Russians are having a competition with prizes on who knocks out Challenger and Bradley first. >Pushilin claimed most of skyscrapers in Mariinka have been cleared, he expects Mariinka to fall soon >Wagner keeps advancing in village of Sol, just north of Soledar. >Ukraine claims they're still fighting for Soledar. >Turkish media claims Russians agreed for prisoner exchange in the format 200 Russians for 800 Ukrainians. Some videos untill something more interesting comes up. There's also a video of officially the first Serbian volunteer detachment finishing up training in Russia ,but video is too big and un interesting. Lots more videos of KIA also, but there's no need to post them.
>>46352 The funniest part is that thanks to Arestovich the ukro forces had to deny that they're even capable of shooting down the Russian missiles, which immediately exposed all their previous claims of doing exactly that as bullshit. No wonder they're malding over.
Sounds like Russians are going in for the kill at Avdiivka via encirclement. Ukraine will be without pressure points to delay the Russians if this happens. https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z5f6JJDtPbs
>Putin may make a very important statement about the special operation tomorrow >— Vladimir Rogov There was some posts on Russian telegram saying "Special Military Operation will end tomorrow ". Now ,just what this means is not clear, it might mean Russia will actually declare war,or they had enough and will literally end hostilities and disgrace themselves. Or it could be just a nothingburger and just a wild rumor and war will continue as usual and nothing will happen. Time will tell.
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>>46366 He's currently being sued for calling it a war, Avdiivka might fall this weekend if reports of encirclement beginning are true, and it's about time to start a second front, so my guess is officially declaring waaaaaagh.
>>46366 Nothing cool happens anymore, so I have no reason to believe anything special will happen tomorrow.
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>>46367 >He's currently being sued for calling it a war Lmao >it's about time to start a second front, so my guess is officially declaring waaaaaagh. Say, aren't the rest of Russian mobilized men scheduled to hit the field soon? Maybe they really will have enough manpower to pull something off, since the last few months Wagners been doing heavy lifting while RuAF has been either holding the line at Kremmena or being oddly quiet. >>46368 >Nothing cool happens anymore, so I have no reason to believe anything special will happen tomorrow I'm still hoping for nuclear exchange at some point. I was promised I would live long enough to witness man made horrors beyond my compression goddammit.
>>46368 This. Putin will probably do nothing of real significance. I've come to expect it. Clearly, he hasn't DECIDED to win no matter what, else he would have by now.
>>46356 >>Pushilin claimed most of skyscrapers in Mariinka have been cleared, he expects Mariinka to fall soon drone video of Mariinka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkNzORrFb34
>>46371 >>46368 Even if nothing happening is possible it's a fresh year and we should have fresh speculation for the sake of fun if nothing else.
>>46368 >anything special But this military operation is already quite special.
>>46374 The first day (and to a lesser extent, phase 1 in its entirety) was the most exciting thing to happen in the past decade, after that it's become quite boring. Diminishing returns sucks.
Marinka officially fallen. Klischivka is quickly being overrun. Fighting in Donetsk Oblast may be over before the war has reached a year old.
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>>46375 oh it's special alright
>>46378 In some alternate reality we would be laughing now about usa losing a carrier group to iran
>>46379 Actually I suspect Iran will be the next target if Ukraine goes poorly (by poorly I mean Russia takes more than the East half).
>>46380 With what weapons? USA would have to completely clear its reserve of weapons to give Israel. Then China can strike for Taiwan if NATO is doubly depleted of weapons.
>>46366 >There was some posts on Russian telegram saying "Special Military Operation will end tomorrow ". So the Russians are going to call it quits then?
>>46368 >Nothing cool happens anymore Don't say that anon-kun, yesterday smoking became illegal outside your property in Mexico so now we will have to find hiding spots for smoking as adults and also contraband tobacco from the US like they do with our weed :^)
>>46384 who's gonna enforce it lmao
>>46384 I welcome banning cunts from shitting up public spaces with that literal and figurative cancer, but I'd think Mexico of all places has bigger priorities.
>>46385 For real, I think even a ridiculous nanny state like the UK would have trouble enforcing that at all. What is even the goal there? It can't be extra income from tickets it's not like it would bring in all that much extra to supplement the massive bribes that your government officials get from cartels and probably burger glowniggers.
>>46366 My bet is that it won't be a declaration of war but something a step higher than a special operation, perhaps a humanitarian intervention. If it is a declaration of war, I expect international matters to heat up quickly after a period of nonsense attempts to discredit Russia, particularly phrases such as, "They finally admit it," and "I knew they were desperate." >>46384 Doesn't this law exclusively help cartels by providing them with a market and forcing people into establishments affiliated with them?
>Doesn't this law exclusively help cartels by providing them with a market and forcing people into establishments affiliated with them? Isn't that what laws are for?
>Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine and his deputy died in a helicopter crash. I smell an inside job.
>>46391 Aircraft do actually crash for reasons other than hostile action. Without evidence there's no reason to believe either way (not that any evidence that might be presented will be reliable, no matter what the conclusion is). In any case, too bad the pilot couldn't manage to at least crash into something other than a fucking kindergarten full of kids.
>>46392 >In any case, too bad the pilot couldn't manage to at least crash into something other than a fucking kindergarten full of kids. FUU Choppers might autorotate in a way that's basically uncontrollable, but shit. Pilots are always trained to reduce casualties in the event of an impending disaster.
>>46383 >>46389 Who knows, maybe they'll stop with this 'special military operation' farce and declare a war. My money's on a nothingburger though, but we'll see.
I was expecting russian front to fall by this point. I'm actually happy that russia pushed so far. >>46380 If this will happen it will be the biggest ironical thing USA can do. >>46382 >USA would have to completely clear its reserve of weapons to give Israel. Then China can strike for Taiwan if NATO is doubly depleted of weapons. Really makes me wonder why NATO still exists. If I were anerica I would dissaseble NATO in 90s and make an alliance with Russia. There would mostlikely be no Ukro war or anything. What's the reason of NATO still being a thing in throughout the 90s and 2000s? Also another problem that nato has. Is that eastmost NATO countries are still using outdated late cold war equipment. Worst is Slovakia at it. (Trust me we still use modified rifles from '58 and T-72s and old soviet and american jets)
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Wagner found some artifacts.
>>46392 >>46393 >>46396 >that crash splash zone How many Ukindergardners got taken out by that?
Avcording to Russian telegram,Putin's speech today basically boiled down to. 'We got fooled by the west' and 'Our victory is inevitable' So,nothing of substance was really said.
>>46399 So the grind continues then?
>>46395 >What's the reason of NATO still being a thing in throughout the 90s and 2000s? To keep Western Europe and Russia forming an economic bloc that would rival the USA. Bringing the Eastern European countries into NATO and then trying to keep tensions with Russia high helps to justify America's continued presence in Europe and keeps the Western Europeans unfriendly with the Russians.
>>46391 On one hand I agree. On the other hand they're probably piloting run-down repaired-eight-times equipment.
>>46395 The eastern countries actually contribute more to NATO than the Western ones. America started making NATO contribute more individually under Trump but then Biden reversed ship because he wants to collapse the European economy to install his family and adjacent friends as oligarchs in Europe, and Europeans are too proud of having sabotaged Trump to realize this blatant play. NATO stuck around because that's what giant bureaucratic entities do; they find new "problems" that they are the "solution" to when they've outlived their usefulness. In the 90s it was the Yugoslav wars and illegally expanding Eastward, in the 00s it was Afghanistan, and in the 10s it was bullying anyone nearby who wasn't in their military bloc (and more Afghanistan). Russia offered to join NATO under both the Clinton era and the Bush era no strings attached if their application was taken seriously, but were flat-out denied both times. Yet Ukraine was happily welcomed in as an "adjacent member" hence why there is so much hostility from Russia towards NATO who keeps breathing down their neck.
>>46392 >In any case, too bad the pilot couldn't manage to at least crash into something other than a fucking kindergarten full of kids. They worship Moloch and all their sacrifices have been low-value conscripted men lately, so they needed to make a more worthy blood sacrifice of innocent lives.
>>46400 Business as usual it seems.
>>46399 Good, I was afraid I would be enslaved and made to die in muds of ukraine
>>46406 That's That's probably going to happen regardless, just not today. >>46403 >Russia offered to join NATO under both the Clinton era and the Bush era no strings attached if their application was taken seriously, but were flat-out denied both times. Yet Ukraine was happily welcomed in as an "adjacent member" hence why there is so much hostility from Russia towards NATO who keeps breathing down their neck. Yeah basically. Russia decided to cut the knot and just make Ukraine not exist anymore (in its current form) as the solution. I doubt they really want the whole country because that just gets them back to NATO on Russia's border. But if they take half of Ukraine and let Ukraine keep the other half that creates a buffer. Rump Ukraine can't join NATO because it would half to admit that the the lost provinces are officially in Russian control, which it of course refuses to do.
>>46407 >I doubt they really want the whole country because that just gets them back to NATO on Russia's border. Ukraine doesn't have to be in NATO for it to be present there on Russia's border anyway.
>>46409 Yeah, the issue isn't bordering NATO by itself, but keeping NATO as far as Russia's core as possible
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>>46410 >>46409 The primary issue is the Donbass and Kharkiv. NATO wanted Ukraine so they would have direct access to the Russian breadbasket and the Caspian Sea. Crimea and/or Donetsk gives them a staging ground to basically bulldoze through a "thin" stretch of land that would cut off Russia from something like 60% of their food production along a natural barrier, the idea being to starve them out and cause mass civil unrest before nukes are on the table. The Kharkiv-Belgorod border is fairly porous with too much landscape for border checkpoints to effectively protect (hence all the Ukrainian sabotage missions in Belgorod) which would act as NATO ideological staging grounds since Sankt Petersburg hasn't been effective enough for cultural attacks. Taking those two areas would already preserve most of Russia's economic and cultural integrity, while pushing to the Dniepr river would act as a very tough natural barrier that NATO won't have a strong foothold to attack from culturally or militarily without going through Belarus or supporting Turkey which is why Russia keeps courting the roaches. The Baltics are basically NATO's cock inside a cigar cutter which is why Russia isn't worried about Northern NATO and Sweden/Finland have been American-aligned since WWII if you look at the treaties in place so this is a formality with NATO membership.
>>46406 Were only a year in strelok, plenty of time to get buttfucked by globohomo. buy good combat boots and pesonal medikit >>46412 Isn't Donbass basin chock-full of raw resources too? Especially Coal, Iron, Copper and Lithium?
>>46413 Yep. Donetsk is more protectionism because they compete directly with Russian industry, but that's the primary reason for taking Luhansk. Primary reason for Mariupol is warm water ports and naval exercises since we're on the topic anyways.
>>46395 >Really makes me wonder why NATO still exists. To put it simply, it's a tool to maintain the current world order while humiliating historical losers. To put it at length, the existence of military treaty organizations is a response to the existence of a threat and can only be maintained if one exists. If NATO were to partition into various shield organizations, they would quickly come to odds with each other and America. The enemy was clear in the Cold War, the USSR and thus the international spread of communism, but once the USSR went into decline the question of, "Who is the enemy to global freedom?" rose, and the answers were the non-useful dictators of the third and second world, who didn't adhere to the American definition of freedom. NATO didn't dissolve in the 90s because it had to enforce its order in Eastern Europe and the Balkans while intervening in the Middle East and North Africa against these new enemies to global freedom. This was largely to prevent the spread of governments which would still be Russian-aligned or at least hostile to NATO and their former colonial overlords, preventing the creation of another power block. This was mostly a success, but BRICS was formed and became the unspoken new enemy. Why Russia will never have an alliance with America is the same reason why Japan, Germany, and Italy will never become permanent members of the United Nations' Security Council despite their relevance, it would be recognition of the historical significance of a loser and undermine the foundations of the global order. In an ideal world, Deng's China would have become NATO's enemy, but Nixon's/Kissinger's détente ruined it.
>>46398 Last night reports said 18 dead including 2 kids, but today that has been revised down to 14 including one kid, plus one kid "missing". >>46402 And piloting that equipment at low altitude, in areas prone to blackouts so buildings aren't lit, and in this case it was also foggy.
>>46396 Looks like he came in with a fairly high horizontal component to his velocity. I'm guessing he was spewing jet fuel on the way in as well. Shame about the kids.
>>46419 What I know about commie architecture suggests that the low building shown in the middle of that fire trail is probably that kindergarten (or landlord association or whatever) so it could be much, MUCH worse. They were lucky.
>>46417 >And piloting that equipment at low altitude, in areas prone to blackouts so buildings aren't lit, and in this case it was also foggy. Maybe he clipped a skyscraper and shattered (at least some of) the main rotor?
>>46392 >too bad the pilot couldn't manage to at least crash into something other than a fucking kindergarten Many such cases, but as anon said controlling a helicopter after failures in either rotor is nigh impossible. Still it did fail over a kindergarten, they made two of the tallest most secure towers fail with people inside so i can see a helicopter doing so over a school. >>46385 Any cop that wants to take a gander at your wallet, when getting pulled over you lose from 10 to 50 dollars now if they catch you smoking they will take 5 or 10 dollars. Remember, being caught near hospitals or schools will land you literal jail, they can and will look at any excuse to get the monies. Still at some places i still see people smoking but they ask the guards or someone around if they can. >>46386 Pissing in public or over someone's fence is now less punishable than smoking in a public park, if that isn't wrong for you then i don't know what to say, even smoking weed lands you 24 hours jail, tobacco will theoretically land 36. Can't say about shitting, law doesn't specify that one IIRC, only urination. >>46390 >Doesn't this law exclusively help cartels I mean soon enough weed will be cheaper and getting it will be as difficult as getting a good, fresh box of decent (cuban, swiss) tobacco. >establishments affiliated with them That i can't say as i don't understand well your question, if you mean drug spots to deal then they usually just sell devil's lettuce in a bag, i can see illegal booze runners (after-2am cars with tons of beer in the trunk) selling shitloads of tobacco more. Punitive laws go for the good doers, not the criminals.
>>46422 where i am people smoke just about everywhere, and they're not going to do anything besides smile and wave, since they have more to lose by arresting a burger tourist than just letting them smoke their garbage american cigs
What's the latest on Literally Putler's speech, Strelok? Whimper or Bang?
>>46429 Whimper it seems >>46399
Post-Cold war, NATO has only been an enemy of freedom. The elite jews (represented by Kissinger in this case) wanted a new engine for their NWO (one without free speech and gun rights), so they deceived the fall guy Nixon into opening the gates to the trojan horse of comie Chinese commerce. This also meant the PRC couldn't become NATO's new enemy. The rest is history.
>>46422 >i don't understand well your question I mean that normal smokers will now be urged to go to untouchable cartel affiliated businesses to smoke, providing a new market of otherwise normal people who can be strong armed into taking some sort of cost or giving a payment to smoke there.
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>"We can safely say that the settlement of Kleshcheevka, which is one of the important suburbs of Bakhmut, has been completely taken under the control of Wagner PMC units. Exclusively by units of PMC "Wagner". Kleshcheevka is released. Fierce fighting is still going on around Kleshcheevka. The enemy clings to every meter of the earth. Contrary to various opinions that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are fleeing from Artemovsk, this is not so. The APU works clearly and harmoniously. We have a lot to learn from them. But in any case, the units of PMC "Wagner" are moving forward meter by meter. The settlement of Artemovsk will be taken." The noose around Bakhmut tightens. It should soon become impossible to hold it unless risking encirclement on all sides.
>>46419 Seems like a giant crash on such a field, maybe it expelled fuel like anon said previously and still managed to land on the playground. What a shitty way to go for that kid, and those injured people are probably badly burned rather than having a broken limb or two. I recall something similar happening in the US where a commercial airliner had to expel some fuel and coincidentally did it over a elementary school or kindergarten, but luckily it didn't ignite. >>46434 >I mean that normal smokers will now be urged to go to untouchable cartel affiliated businesses to smoke OK now i understand, yeah that figures as it already happened with the devil's talcum and being able to sniff it on the tables of some protected bars. The same places will now have tons of smokers too, they already do but now much more, still some people are not very smart and will ask directly if a bar is protected when that should be seen rather than asked skull sigils on the bar, girls always waiting for "something" outside the woman's restrooms >>46424 >they're not going to do anything besides smile and wave Femoids with painted hair here do snitch and throw fits even before this law, i can see trouble a brewing in music and artistic events. Never underestimate cops, they can blackmail even a pregnant woman in front of a clinic and i've seen it happen, they can easily take down 5 dollars out of a dude smoking in a hood park at 12am.
>>46417 >plus one kid "missing". RIP that kid. Either burned beyond recognition or "recruited" into Idolmaster: Ukranian Mafia edition.
>An indicative list of all weapons and equipment that NATO countries are going to transfer to Ukraine in the near future: >14 Challenger 2 tanks; >600 Brimstone rockets; >30 155mm AS90 self-propelled guns; >200 infantry fighting vehicles/armored personnel carriers; >200 Senator armored vehicles; >1 NASAMS air defense battery; >14 Leopard 2 tanks (probably A4 modifications); >100 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles; >100 tracked armored personnel carriers M113; >18 155mm self-propelled guns M109А6; >250 M1117 armored vehicles; >138 HMMWV SUVs; >100 Stryker wheeled armored personnel carriers; >Ammo GLSDB; >36 105mm howitzers; >1 Patriot air defense/missile defense battery; >6 Nasams air defense batteries; >18 MLRS HIMARS; >40 AMX-10RC wheeled tanks; >Bastion armored cars; >1 AA/PRO SAMP/T battery; >Several 155mm Caesar wheeled self-propelled guns; >40 Marder BMP; >1 Patriot air defense/missile defense battery; >3 Iris-T air defense batteries + 3 TRML-4D radars; >2 TRML-4D radars; >16 Zuzana-2 155mm wheeled self-propelled guns; >120 T-72M tanks; >1 Patriot air defense/missile defense battery; >50 BMP CV-90; >12 155mm Archer wheeled self-propelled guns; >26-30 152mm Dana-M2 wheeled self-propelled guns; >10 FH70 155mm howitzers; >10 122mm D30 howitzers. >The final list will be known after Rammstein. Lmao, madlads are actually doing it, they're supplying whole army's worth of gear to Ukraine.
>>46440 This war has been such a wild ride. Slow as shit at times but holy fuck. It might be genuinely over in the next few months.
>>46440 Near future as in along 2023 no? Take it with a grain of salt but to me it doesn't seem like much at all and it's such a variety of things i can't imagine how Ukrainians logistics will deal with all of it especially with their infrastructure barely holding
>>46442 For a small country that's an entire arsenal of equipment and enough to make their neighbors sweat bullets. For a country the size of Ukraine it's not much.
>>46440 Looks pretty scary to an unedu/k/ated fag like me. Will Russia even be able to deal with this massive amount of shit? I imagine it would be impossible to hold against that if it was delivered and manned as early as possible. Unless Russians got some kind of Wunderwaffe that can slap these consistently I'm afraid it might gradually be over for them and their gay lame decisions.
>>46445 >Will Russia even be able to deal with this massive amount of shit? Depends on how it's supplied and used. If it all gets sent at once and Ukraine applies it all in one big push as disposable weaponry (what most of it is), then Ukraine could cause some serious damage along a planned path of destruction. If the supplies are over the course of months or Ukraine disperses it across the battlefields, it's symbolic at best and will only slow the Russians down a bit. I predict Ukraine will concentrate and push for Melitopol or Eastern Kherson which is why Russia is fortifying their lines there with extra conscripts to potentially attack Zaporizhia.
Hit send on accident. >I'm afraid it might gradually be over for them and their gay lame decisions. Unlikely. Even if we go by pro-Ukrainian third party estimates of Russian losses, the fact remains that Ukraine is conscripting old men and women because they used up most of their young men in the initial blitz. Russia is using old veterans but the key difference is that old veterans have the battlefield knowhow and the physical attributes to handle logistical duties like artillery supply, cooking, filling a trench, etc. Russia can still mobilize several hundreds of thousands of able-bodied men if they want to while Ukraine is fighting tooth and nail to hold out against the current numbers after losing conscripts bigly to the voluntary forces last Spring/Summer.
>>46440 >>46445 Maybe NATO really is trying to push Russia into using tactical nukes on Ukraine or something. >>46446 Seems to me that it's just a big encouragement for Russia to completely crush the infrastructure of the country so that they won't be able to use those weapons.
>>46452 >Maybe NATO really is trying to push Russia into using tactical nukes on Ukraine or something. I think they simply concluded that the Ukrainian army will gladly feed the meat grinder with flesh as long as they have the equipment to keep doing it. And of course behind this conclusion are all the thoughts and ideas that lead to this mess, but we discussed them already.
>>46445 Its more then most of european countries have. Its also not enough, there is not enough artillery, parts, trained personel, fuel and on the ground logistics. It is also a huge sign of desperation.
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>>46441 Will it though? I don't see this as war ending even if it's tangible amount. It is designed to to keep Ukraine in the war and prolong it as long as possible. >>46442 >Near future as in along 2023 no? I'm guessing 2023, but we'll know for certain after Rammstein gayout. >Take it with a grain of salt but to me it doesn't seem like much at all and it's such a variety of things i can't imagine how Ukrainians logistics will deal with all of it especially with their infrastructure barely holding Like I said, i think its tangible but not war ending. Especially with introduction of hardware that would be difficult to maintain in the field. UAF already ships their shit back to Poland for refitting and repairs. >>46445 It's bigger than what a lot of second world armies have on hand. However, we're witnessing truly large scale warfare in Ukraine right now, I don't think it would be able to swing favor dramatically for UAF unless Russia decides to have a single Dshka guarding critical roads again like in Kharkov offensive. >>46452 >Maybe NATO really is trying to push Russia into using tactical nukes on Ukraine or something. Why wouldn't they? NATO has been fucking with every single red line so far and Russia didn't do jack shit except start ill planned and ill prepared offensive in the beginning. Also, Russia has been putting Pantsirs on high rises in Moscow.
So if Ukraine swaps from a PR policy to actually trying to preserve manpower after Donetsk is liberated, do you think they have a chance in hell of protecting Kharkiv? Chernihiv didn't fall because Kiev kept sending forces and Sumy was full of Donbass veterans so they're a bit of a coin toss, but I see Kharkiv only lasting until next Autumn at the latest.
>>46457 >Russia didn't do jack shit except start ill planned and ill prepared offensive in the beginning I would argue the only reason the russians have had such success or are even having this war at all is because it was done completely by surprise to everyone but putin. Western intelligence is now the best in the world, so its safe to assume pretty much anything putin says in secrecy will be know to everyone within 24 hours. If the russians had planned for this for months the west would have know from day 1, thus giving them enough time to manipulate things to make the war either impossible to continue, or extremely unfavorable. Imagine preparing to give ukraine all the gear and support from day 1, training and prepping the ukols from day 1, not falling for the sanctions trap out of panic and keeping the ruskies dependant, manipulating events to make it actually seem like russia is the aggressor and not fighting back against western pressure to its csto/bricks allies and its citizens. One of the biggest reasons for the continued russian success of this war is that putin went for the guns out of nowhere, giving the west no time to shift through their shit bureaucracy fast enough to do anything other than panic and commit grave mistakes that have only snowballed as time goes on.
>>46463 (cont) And tbh, this war has shown huge problems and disabilities in the entirety of the russian military, and having a small controlled campaign against some of the best equipment from all western nations in all forms, is pretty much the perfect sandbox for russia. They pretty much have all the data for what works and doesn't against nato militaries that they could possibly ask for, thus lining up huge overhauls for their military they could not have with just prep time, for not only their current military, but also their future projects. And that's not even talking about the experience gained for the veterans of this war, they are going to be training recruits with the knowledge of having fought with almost all the best nato equipment of every country.
>>46463 I think both sides scale up the other side's problems, but by now I'm confident that no one will experience a real economic breakdown due to this war. Really, this is like an ugly divorce where both parents are fighting over the kids, and the neighbours are just watching it out of curiosity. Both parties are hurt by this process, but eventually they will go their separate ways while talking shit about the others.
Bulgaria secretly supplied Ukraine fuel and ammunition in early months of war https://archive.ph/mVBPf >Bulgaria, one of the poorest EU members and long perceived as pro-Moscow, helped Ukraine survive Russia’s early onslaught by secretly supplying it with large amounts of desperately needed diesel and ammunition, the politicians responsible have said. The former Bulgarian prime minister Kiril Petkov and finance minister Assen Vassilev said their country provided 30% of the Soviet-calibre ammunition Ukraine’s army needed during a crucial three-month period last spring, and at times 40% of the diesel. >Petkov had to act covertly because of the overtly pro-Kremlin sympathies among many in Bulgaria’s political class, including his Socialist coalition partners. Days after Russia’s so-called special operation in Ukraine began on 24 February, he fired his defence minister, who was refusing to call the invasion an act of war. Meanwhile, polls showed more than 70% of Bulgarians feared being drawn into the conflict and opposed supplying arms to Ukraine, despite their country having large stocks of Soviet-calibre arms and ammunition that Kyiv urgently needed.
>>46466 >people and parties opposed to supporting ukraine >pm does it anyway >not publicly through rational leadership but sneakily behind their backs That's "democracy" in the current year. Wonder if Petkov is another Klaus Schwab protégé.
>>46468 >>46466 Backstabbing the general population is to be expected, but backstabbing not only other political elites, but political elites in your own party that are also against what you're doing is some next level shit. He basically rubbed his dick on Bulgaria's collective ass and then shoved a middle finger in their faces when they turned around.
>>46463 It's widely believed that the only reason the war wasn't more successful early on is precisely because of just how aware Western Intelligence was working with the Ukrainian SBU and that the CIA/British MI6 believed that the sanctions packages would work as a deterrent.
>>46464 Most of the countries are still sending last-generation tech that Russia has already learned how to deal with over in Syria.
>>46466 >and long perceived as pro-Moscow I hate these niggers trying to gaslight others and rewrite history. Bulgaria was one of the big 5 promoting this war early on and refusing the Russian treaty packages pre-war. What the fuck is this shit journalism? >Guardian Oh nevermind. The Guardian is Huffington Post-tier.
>>46463 >>46464 These are all good points. However I expect Putler consulted at least a few of his closest advisors before pulling the trigger though, don't you think Strelok?
>>46471 Big difference in seeing other countries with different militaries, different doctrines, different logistics, different tactics, dealing with said equipment in different environments and wars than yours. I'd say the data contributing to how their own militaries work (or rather don't) mattered most here. Though I do realize now that you pointed it out how fallacious the statement of best of the best equipment or best of all western countries really is. I'm still of the rottenbrain mind of javelins, leopards 2, thermals, and m4s being the cutting edge of warfare due to years of mild interest in war + the whole 2000's stagnation blur effect.
>>46473 >don't you think strelok? I believe it probably went more like the Trump drone strike on Soleimani, when Trump got just another file on a hypothetical op he would presumably throw in the trash like the hundreds of others, but he actually just full sent it to the shock of even the people who gave it to him. Also is the .onion not working for anyone else? Can't tell if its just my bad connection.
What equipment could NATO possibly send that would further escalate the war? Fighter jets?
>>46477 Jets, subs, or nukes.
>>46477 (checked) Nukes, anything else would just be opening up their best toys for russia and the rest of the world to take notes from or worst still, get the mostly intact wrecks from. Though in clown world current year ng +8 don't doubt some dumb small euro country pulling a bulgaria at best, at worst... let your mind go wild >>46441 Like the serb anon said, they wouldn't need anything if they were winning, and they wouldn't need this massive shitload unless western analysts were projecting some massive holol losses.
I do have to say, the best part of this conflict is showing how racist pretty much any leftist really is/can be as long as papa governement doesn't restrict and ever encourages you to do so. Seeing all the hatecrimes, the massive 180's, double standards, hell that russian chessplayer getting banned for not hiding his russian flag and saying it shouldn't be a political position to be russian only to get laughed at like a monkey thinking it has human rights. Seeing so many enlightened liberals acting worst than white trash at a moments notice, pure bliss.
>>46477 Abrams tanks but Americans really don't like giving those out since next-gen tanks are built around most of the trade secrets in them/war-crimes would be discovered (they use depleted Uranium in the plating and munitions). Jets would be something they could supply in large quantities to escalate and would actually have a real effect since Russia's artillery superiority stems primarily from air superiority allowing them to scout out Ukrainian positions and relay them to artillery. Obviously nukes. Ships would be a big one but Turkey isn't allowing that precisely because it would escalate everything. They could theoretically send prefabricated parts to Odessa and construct ships there but I imagine the Russians would blow it up if they got a whiff of that. NATO's problem is their technologies are all designed around assumed air superiority while Russia's only benefit from it, so comparing technologies is like comparing apples and oranges. With air superiority NATO equipment outperforms Russian equipment by a large margin, but none of it is designed for this WWI-esque war currently taking place where Russia can almost indiscriminately attack anything anywhere at any time. It's hard to convey that the issue is fighting on Russia's home turf in disadvantageous conditions against Russia's cheap equipment, rather than the "superiority" of Russian equipment (outside of rocket and SAM technology which IS superior due to extensive optimization and cheapness even though it has lower overall specs). >>46478 I could see NATO giving Ukraine nukes before submarines if only because every country with submarines has an extremely limited number of them and they are something of an ace-in-the-hole technology for those who have them, but yes, submarines would also escalate things.
>>46480 It's because they were always the racists. In America, the parties didn't "change" they just rebranded under new slogans. It was conservatives who ended slavery, conservatives who pushed women's rights, conservatives who pushed niggers' rights, and conservatives who recognize that even if you have preferences for race, sex, etc. you can recognize individuals for the quality of their character or the quality of their skillsets regardless of views, religion, etc. because exceptions to the rule exist. Leftists have always just co-opted conservative voices and rewritten history to fit their narrative because what they actually seek is control over others. It's why I'm always skeptical of anyone claiming to support Nationalism because it's almost never populist nationalism which isn't bad in small doses, and almost always top-down nationalism which is no different than the leftist crap. Leftists will abuse any avenue for control like Jews because they don't think long-term they just think about how to win the immediate game in front of them no matter what underhanded tactics are necessary.
Put more succinctly, these normalfags think that the Russians are ontologically evil (evil on an a priori level of existence) and thus any evil taken against a Russian is justified because it was done to stop evil. They also think the same thing about (You).
>>46482 >It's because they were always the racists. In America, the parties didn't "change" they just rebranded under new slogans. What? The parties have stood for different things at different times, and neither one matches up clearly to either of the parties we have today. Do you really think that a Indian-fighting plantation owner like Andrew Jackson or a fundamentalist like William Jennings Bryan would be welcome in the Democratic Party these days? Both of them were also populists, which is a huge no-no for modern Democrats. >It was conservatives who ended slavery, conservatives who pushed women's rights, conservatives who pushed niggers' rights, No, not at all. Those were all liberal positions. Actual conservatism isn't about "progress."
>>46463 >training and prepping the ukols from day 1 They've been doing that since 2014... >its safe to assume pretty much anything putin says in secrecy will be know to everyone within 24 hours >>46470 >just how aware Western Intelligence was working with the Ukrainian SBU Information is good and all but western intelligence seems to lack a good working model for predicting Russia. Predictions of Russian economy collapsing from sanctions and/or causing a revolution in Moscow were overfitting to the way things work in US/Europe - obviously not on point but that's hindsight.
>>46472 >What the fuck is this shit journalism? Fear not, journalism is one of the areas ripe for being massacred by the recent advances in AI. and by journalism I mean a steady flow of fluent verbal diarrhea on some topic presented in a specific way
>>46481 >war-crimes would be discovered >(they use depleted Uranium in the plating and munitions) This is widely known and not even illegal. Unless you referring to the other war crimes >They could theoretically send prefabricated parts to Odessa and construct ships there Nah, how do they get so much steel there? Diesel is fucked, electric rail is fucked, sea routes are fucked. Does Odessa even have shipyards like that? That is all to say we're not getting another season of snek island. >>46483 >these normalfags think Stop spreading these false claims.
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Russia has launched offensive in Zaporozhie direction this morning. Scale of offensive unknown as of yet.
India bought 33 times more oil from Russia than in 2021 https://archive.is/EAXQ0 >Suspected they have surpassed China for importing Russian oil >Russia, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia are India's main suppliers Deutsche Ostsee LNG Import Terminal Starts Operation https://archive.is/bWmJ6 >French oil major TotalEnergies has announced the start-up of the Deutsche Ostsee LNG import terminal for liquefied natural gas. >Operated by Deutsche ReGas is located in Lubmin on the German Baltic Sea coast. This project, to which TotalEnergies is contributing a floating storage and regasification unit (FSRU) and supplying LNG, will make the company one of Germany’s main LNG suppliers. >In December 2022, TotalEnergies delivered the Neptune – one of the company's two FSRUs – to Deutsche Regas. The vessel has an annual regasification capacity of 5 billion cubic meters of gas >enough to cover about 5 percent of German demand Apparently they agreed to this contract in October. When did Nordstream get blown up again? Allegedly the German company that was handling Nordstream mysteriously disappeared around the same time this production began. >>46489 They appeared to be setting up for this for a while so I guess they finally decided it was time. First objective is a small town to the North-West of their positions to fuck with Ukrainian troop deployment since it's centralized from there, second objective may be to take Pokrovskye in order to shitter shatter Ukrainian supply lines.
>>46490 >They appeared to be setting up for this for a while so I guess they finally decided it was time. First objective is a small town to the North-West of their positions to fuck with Ukrainian troop deployment since it's centralized from there, second objective may be to take Pokrovskye in order to shitter shatter Ukrainian supply lines. So far it looks like either a recon in force or recon-pull type of deal, possibly in order to initiate positional battles as prep work for possible future offensive in that direction. No information on Russian troop concentration, so this might be just a pinning attack to take pressure off Kremmena-Svatovo. UAF seems to have withdrawn substantial forces from Zaprozhie previously in order to reinforce Soledar, so Russia is probably taking this opportunity to keep Ukrainan armt off balance. Pic unrelated
>>46477 Ultimately I think the only escalation that matters will be one that causes Russia to regard NATO as an actual co-belligerent rather than just a meddling third party.
>>46493 Something like this actually. FUCK. https://archive.is/CEJvu
>>46494 >Russian mouthpiece website as a valid source fuck off
>>46495 >Mexico Not today M00t!
>>46495 Even ignoring that source America has been discussing doing that for months now.
Which of the following scenarios regarding Bakhmut's capture by P*tler can be reasonably expected to happen? >Reverse Stalingrad: Bakhmut is captured using disposable Wagner Mercs in a slow grind without fully encircling the town. >Hohol heresy: The local Ukrainian commander impales his Canadian NATO superiors and orders his increasingly old men to GTFO of town before the Russians encircle it, he is branded a traitor and killed either by barrier troops while leaving or by firing squad after getting court martialed. >Lysychansk 2.0: Zelensky orders Bakhmut held at all cost and dumps a division's worth of men into the town just before Russians encircle it, but the Ukrainian conscripts' poor morale+supply lead them to embrace the Z and surrender before long. >Mariupol 2.0: Bakhmut is reinforced prior to encirclement by loyal heroic gnationalists fighting Putler's men to the last even after their brand new Bradleys broke down and their NATO Staff Helicopter crashed due to Russian missiles saboteurs.
>>46498 Bakhmut is one of the few holdouts of Ukraine's veteran forces, but there are also a lot of conscripts there. So probably a combination of 2-4 primarily towards 3/4. >Some wise commanders pull out before encirclement is completed at the risk of court marshaling, and the veterans hold the conscripts hostage until public order disintegrates leaving a token resistance in a heavily defensible area starving to death Unlike Soledar, Wagner forces in Bakhmut are primarily distraction forces so that Ukraine can't reinforce the supply lines because they are held down.
>>46491 Weeb Union is signaling they're going for Orikhiv (the troop redeployment town for most of Zaporizhia/Donbass). Might be that the recon forces saw good results and the Russians are gunning for it now. https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wr5JGmOWrsY
>>46498 >pigs of war - instead of being court martialed for defending a line that cannot be held, bitter vets and conscripts form new mercenary company "Pigs of War" (officially operating as butchery in Bakhmut) that wishes to fight on the side of the russians to punish their command and politicians that threw their lives away. They sell Bakhmut to russians.
>>46500 Battle for Orehov situation by the end of January 20, 2023 >At the Orekhovsky sector, after the liberation of Lobkovoye, Russian troops swooped down and took the neighboring village of Malye Shcherbaki, knocking out the combined forces of the enemy from there. >Immediately after the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, they were able to consolidate their success by blocking the Ukrainian formations in Shcherbaki. Also, Russian fighters advanced in the suburbs of Orekhov - Novoandreevka, Novodanilovka and Malaya Tokmachka. The area is being cleaned up. >Establishing control over Lobkov and Shcherbak makes it possible to increase pressure on the Kamenskoye-Stepovoe line, where units of the 128th Guards Brigade, the 9th Gepard Regiment and the MTR group are located. And with the complete liberation of Novoandreevka, Novodanilovka and Malaya Tokmachka, cover Orekhov from the south and east. >The situation for the Armed Forces of Ukraine is complicated by the fact that the T0812 highway is under the complete fire control of Russian artillerymen, which makes it potentially dangerous to send reinforcements to conduct a counteroffensive due to a possible collapse of the front in Kamenskoye. >Servicemen of the 291st regiment of the Russian Armed Forces have established control over several strongholds in the Novopokrovka area southeast of Orekhovo. The Armed Forces of Ukraine expect the continuation of the active assault on the Belogorye-Charivnoe line and in the direction of Gulyai-Pole. >Breaking through the first line of defense at this line with a simultaneous attack from the west will allow the military personnel of the RF Armed Forces to reach Orekhov from the east and develop an offensive on Gulyaipole, cutting the AFU grouping into two parts. Rybar as source. Territory wise, is an OK advance, nothing incredible, but that's the most action Zaporozhie has seen in half a year. Also, Russia is the one now advancing, so there's change of dynamics. Time will tell if it's just successful positional battle or springboard for a major offensive. There's talk on Russian telegram that Ukrainian artillery is quite anemic there ,possibly due to them moving a lot of manpower and material to Donbass to stop Wagner.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVM_hRj5Jpo HistoryLegends reviewed Wagner PMC's new Movie "The Best in Hell." It's based on the experiences of a high-ranking Wagner commander who wrote the script while wounded and recovering said commander was KIA when returning to fight in Bakhmut. They don't explicitly state it's based on Ukraine, but the "white" team are clearly the Russians and the 'yellow" team are clearly the Ukrainians. HistoryLegends liked it for the realism, but his dad hated it for not being realistic enough. Movie is on jewtube for now with English subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4ZxWaRHhnQ
>>46502 Orekhovo is apparently an important logistics centre, making it essential for any russian offensive in the area. if they are able to capture it, they're able to threaten an advance in the south.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDJcEH58on8 Sounds like Russia is just making gains along their entire front line right now. None of them are major gains but they all put them on a trajectory to cut off several Ukrainian holdouts all at once.
>>46513 >>46498 >Kurdish Snek Land: A Swedish observational outpost near Bakhmut becomes the last holdout of the legitimate Ukrainian government to surrender to Putin's mercenaries after NATO runs out of fuel for humanitarian airdrops flown in over Polish/Russian occupied territory. I hope this is an actual offensive and not a series of probing attacks, Poles and Romanians/Moldovans better check their Ammonium nitrate stores for wayward missile debris.
>>46515 Speaking of Kurds, Turkey is kicking up a fuss over Sweden's NATO application. Partly the Kurds, partly a recent Quran-burning that Sweden has defended as covered by freedom of expression.
The Truth according to Pravda.ru >zelensky will be impeached and removed from office by ukraine mps >that helicopter crash was part of the internal power struggle >nato will inevitably end up fighting directly against russia >usa will give western ukraine to poland but the poles have to pay off kiev's war debts >gerasimov is the outstanding strategic genius of his generation >russia could attack uk with a 100 megaton nuclear torpedo which can travel at 200kph under water The Truth according to Pravda.com.ua >the military exercises in belarus are just a psy-op >russia is on the defensive and isn't advancing anywhere >great patriotic special military operation psy-op >gib shekels plox >and tanks Russia does entertaining hyperbole so much better than Ukraine/CIA.
>>46516 >Sweden defending burning the quran I am extremely dubious, do you have a source for that?
>>46522 >Turkey has condemned the burning of a copy of the Quran during a protest in Sweden, describing it as a "vile act". It said the Swedish government's decision to allow the protest to go ahead was "completely unacceptable". >Turkey, which had appealed to Sweden to stop the protest, called off a visit by Sweden's Defence Minister, Pal Jonson, saying the trip had "lost its significance and meaning". >Turkey's Ministry of Foreign Affairs issued a statement denouncing the act, which it said happened despite "repeated warnings". "Permitting this anti-Islam act, which targets Muslims and insults our sacred values, under the guise of 'freedom of expression' is completely unacceptable," it said. >"Sweden has a far-reaching freedom of expression, but it does not imply that the Swedish government, or myself, support the opinions expressed," Sweden's Foreign Minister wrote on Twitter. https://archive.is/w98mK It's not exactly strong support, but remember that Sweden had to give permission for the protest to go ahead in the first place and did so with full knowledge the burning was planned, and the minister did still assert that it's covered by freedom of expression.
>>46523 >fucking Swedes have better protection for freedom of expression than the USA wow
>>46525 Sweden yes! how does this surprise you anyhow?
>>46526 I'll let you figure that one out fag.
>>46525 They've been doing everything they can to try and stop him but they ran out of legal options when nothing would stick. He's Danish so at one point they even banned him from entering the country but then it turned out they couldn't because one of his parents is Swedish so he's legally a Swedish citizen.
To get this thread back on-track, via Southfront: >Russia struck the AFU positions near Kotlyarovka with high-precision missiles; >Clashes between the Russian Army and the AFU continue near Kupyansk; >Clashes between the Russian Army and the AFU continue near Debrova; >Clashes between the Russian Army and the AFU continue near Bakhmut; >Russian-led forces reportedly took control of Mali Shcherbaky; >Russian-led forces reportedly took control of Novodanylivka and Malaya Tokmachka; >Russia artillery struck the AFU positions near Terny; >Russia artillery destroyed an ammo depot near Vodyanoye; >Russian air defense systems shot down 4 HIMARS and HARM rockets near Vasilyovka and Grozovoye in the Zaporozhye region; >Russian air defense systems shot down 14 Ukrainian drones near Kovalyovka, Kremennaya, Naugolnoye, Novovodyannoye, Ploshchanka, Nezhurino, Zmiyovka, Chervonopopovka in the LPR, and Novokazankovatoye in the Zaporozhye region, Blagodatnoye in the DPR. https://southfront.org/military-situation-in-ukraine-on-january-21-2023-map-update/
>>46528 In the US he would've been blacklisted by every mainstream media outlet immediately after a coordinated freak out and also probably branded a rapist or a pedophile by random me tooers.
>>46485 >Do you really think that a Indian-fighting plantation owner like Andrew Jackson or a fundamentalist like William Jennings Bryan would be welcome in the Democratic Party these days? I mean you have Mister "I don't want my kids to grow up in a racial jungle." Shitting in the Oval Office right now so yeah they would probably be welcomed with open arms.
It's fucked up that Putin bombed the Donbass, attacked the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, killed Darya Dugina, bombed the Nord Stream pipelines, and attacked the Crimea Bridge.
>>46532 My favourite part is when normalcattle speaks about how he is clearly insane who just does things without any rhyme and reason, even though he clearly thinks and acts like someone who grew up during the Cold War and went on to serve in the KGB would think and act.
>>46533 Nevermind the entire perception that the Russians would just "let" an insane person run the country. Boomers get asshurt when I mention that all four successors lined up are more hardline than he is when they talk about using the CIA to assassinate him. Or that the top contender for the position used to be an American ally until they fucked him over. They literally think you can just solve world problems by assassinating the guy in charge and installing a puppet government lol.
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>>46532 HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT My personal favorite is when people keep flip-floping between "Evil genius tyrant who has an entire nation under his thumb" and "Incompetent and demented sick old man with cancer who's run by military junta". Sometimes within the same sentence. Paraphrasing of course.
>>46529 There's a lot of important things happening, but I'm all burnt out on watching the war because it's still fairly static or small gains. I want a major encirclement or something, damn it. Maybe this was Russia's game all along was to keep the war at a grind until normalfags stopped paying attention so they'd get more angry at their leaders when they end up sending gibs.
>>46536 >spoiler I doubt the russians really based any strategy on it since TPTB in amerikkka will just fund something or not fund something without any real regard for public awareness, but I'm sure they were aware that things could easily outlast a globohomo news cycle once they switched to the grind. I'm not even sure if half my relatives are aware the war is still going on. The definitely didn't know jack shit about hostilities in the region 2015-2020
https://nitter.1d4.us/igorsushko/status/1616891317203922944#m >go to Soledar to show the world that it under Russian control >get shot in the leg Kind of amusing.
>>46538 There's a video of her afterwards taking it like a champ, but damn did she freak out from some shrapnel to the knee, heh.
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>>46538 >>46539 There's a third video of the news coverage but neither nitter nor any of the twitter extractor APIs seem to be able to recognize two video uploads in the same tweet and I'm not gonna dig around for the video so have a link. https://twitter.com/da_masse/status/1616935712560914434/video/2
>>46534 > They literally think you can just solve world problems by assassinating the guy in charge and installing a puppet government lol Well they were raised from birth to believe that, it isn't surprising.
>>46539 >but damn did she freak out from some shrapnel to the knee, heh I know wombyn are dramatic whores but it's a hot piece of metal shredding into your flesh most men would scream about that.
>>46540 yt-dlp is your greatest ally.
>>46530 That is pretty much what happened.
>>46546 Oh I didn't realize a bunch of girls accused him of raping them.
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Thinking about it, it's strange that both sides don't use eyecandy for propaganda purposes. We live in a world where a pin up girl could rake in enough cash to finance an infantry company, so imagine if they had some models rambling about the inevitable victory of their side.
>>46548 The upcoming Empire 2 - Czarist Boogaloo? Maybe. Greater Jerusalem? Not likely IMO. Sronk, Independynts and all that.
>>46548 Didn't Ukrainans enlist buch of pretty women and send them to the front for PR and western betabux only for them to get mauled by Russian artillery?
>>46537 >amerikikea FTFY Strelok
>>46550 I think I remember that from thread 2 or 3 IIRC, so maybe in April '22?
>>46550 Really?
>>46552 I think it was around that time,pretty early on. >>46553 Yeah, there's a video in one of early threads of some chick who taunted Russians getting shelled only for a video to show her later dead in a ditch, probably got artillery'd.
>>46440 >>14 Leopard 2 tanks All the media headlines I've seen lately have been complaining about how Germany has "failed" to give other countries permission to send Leopard 2s, which was needed as per the terms of buying them. Though today I did see their foreign minister say they would "not stand in the way" of sending them.
>>46529 It should be said that Southfront is immensely pro-Russian and you shouldn't expect impartial information from them.
>>46558 Yes, I've heard this song before here. TBH, this board is ' immensely pro-Russian' b/c, well, the truth. As in, not super-saturated in kike media brainwashing. Regardless, the Russkies are clearly winning, and clearly justified in this military operation.
>>46547 He was accused of grooming boys. But just you wait, just touching a female without written permission is rape under modern Swedish law.
Poland promising to send Leopards whether Germany gives permission or not. Sevastopol apparently had a large explosion (the tip of Crimea). Zelensky has ordered more reserves be drawn from the pool immediately.
>>46560 >b/c well the truth Archived for the future https://archive.is/VLua8
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The truth is shit's fucked and we're witnessing 34 pig-headed countries duke it out over some farmland because one of them couldn't stop shitting on the table and 31 of them felt the need to defend them doing so.
Russia ordered Estonian ambassador to leave by the end of February and for the charge d'affaires to take over. Estonia responded by telling their Russian ambassador he must leave by the 7th of February in a tit for tat move. For those curious, the difference is that a Charge-D doesn't have the diplomatic powers to call upon a country's leader or otherwise interact in events at the level of an ambassador. While they get diplomatic immunity, they're basically an ambassador in name only and something of a whipping boy when the host country has to interact with the foreign diplomat.
>>46564 Imagine sitting around a bonfire in a couple of years trying to explain this shit to a pack of half feral gen alpha nuclear war orphans.
>>46565 Is there even a point to having ambassadors in this day and age of instant telecommunication? Let's invite and hosting a bunch of foreign glowies in our country and also give them legal immunity..... like who the fuck came up with this bright idea? When it used to take weeks/months to send a letter abroad, yeah it made sense to have a trusted representative there on your behalf. Today just make a phone call fuck.
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How useful would these Western tanks be for Ukraine considering the overall lack in air-power on their side? Would Russian helicopters have much trouble destroying them?
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>>46530 All of their news is written from Russian perspectives including reports about World War Two, and they like calling it "The Great Patriotic War." Vid related is also currently on their website. Do you want me to start taking independent Ukrainian sources at face value too?
>>46560 Meant for >>46572
>>46560 this. SouthFront is obviously pro-Russian, but it's a moderate and forgivable bias given the propaganda deluge in the West, telling us that Russians are pure evil and comically inept, and the Ukrainians are the Spartan 300 preventing puppy murder or some shit. also, a bizarre globohomo ritual in an Orthodox Church under Ukrainian control, and an old video of missile strikes on Lviv (because I finally got around to compressing bitrate to meet 20mb limit).
>>46570 Ambassadors are supposed to have cultural knowledge of the country they're stationed in to ensure that the correct message is communicated in on-record and off-record diplomacy, but often the positions are just filled by randos who knew the right people.
>>46571 >Would Russian helicopters have much trouble destroying them? Helicopters are vulnerable to SAMs, there's a good reason we've barely seen them in this conflict. I'd bet on those tanks getting blown up by artillery + targeting UAVs.
>>46575 >ensure that the correct message is communicated in on-record and off-record diplomacy, but often the positions are just filled by randos who knew the right people. But what the fuck is in it for the hosting those randos?
>>46570 >like who the fuck came up with this bright idea? lol, you are thinking too explicitly into its classic definition, in practice they need to be very versed in the country they are going into to avoid doing or saying retarded things ("Russia should return Voronezh to Ukraine" or "Why are these tacos soft, tacos should be hard-shelled like back in Cali") also should know the local language in theory so they can speak and interpret something better than you as a leader. Also an easy way to get rid of your opponents or safeguard one of your units, for example "promoting" one of your young hot shot opposition members into a comfy, very well-paid position as ambassador at the other side of the world where he has to be inside the embassy for 4 years if you send an order to make the place his hosting position. >>46574 >ukronazis dressed as devils to heil satan That don't make no sense but that video evidence is good to have
>>46569 CAPTAIN WALKER!
>>46570 Ambassadors are supposed to be well-versed on a country so they can push their origin country's agenda abroad or bribe the local politicians. See the frat parties happening in virtually all US embassies where alcohol is banned by the host country as an example (they liquor up sandnigger princes and warlords to bribe them into pushing America's agenda). In theory the ambassador smooths over any flubs made by their leaders back home that might upset the host country and answer any questions the host country might have so as to not bother the leader of their origin country with countless questions he'd fuck up the answers to because of lack of cultural nuance. In practice it's usually a combination of >>46575 (randos in high places) and >>46578 (temporarily silencing opposition that might be useful later) which is when diplomatic disasters happen like that Russian ambassador to Canada who was trafficking sex slaves children. The Russians politely asked for him to be sent home so he could fall out of a hotel window on accident when the Canadians brought it to their attention, in that particular case.
As for why ambassadors must be there in person, well, it's quite simple. It's harder to lie to someone's face on the fly than it is to put them on hold on a telephone while you cook something up. It's supposed to be a sign of trust. Key words supposed to be.
>>46574 >also, a bizarre globohomo ritual in an Orthodox Church under Ukrainian control Weird shit. This Jewish dictatorship there is truly Satanic tbh.
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Polish PM Says They’ll Send Tanks to Hoholistan Even If Germany Disagrees http://stormer5v52vjsw66jmds7ndeecudq444woadhzr2plxlaayexnh6eqd.onion/polish-pm-says-theyll-send-tanks-to-hoholistan-even-if-germany-disagrees/ >"We will ask (Germany) for permission, but this is a secondary theme,” Morawiecki said. “Even if, eventually, we do not get this permission, we — within this small coalition — even if Germany is not in this coalition, we will hand over our tanks, together with the others, to Ukraine." Intredasting. I wonder if others will follow suit and give the Hun the finger?
>>46570 Imagine a third-party hijacking the Zoom equivalent call between two world leaders and using voice modulation or AI generated videos of either one insulting the other Oh wait that already happened with the Russian pranksters playing an unconvincing Macron to the Polish govt You need some extra headcount on the ground to act as a mediator especially because of how instant messaging works in this day and age.
Dumping some footage. Also, there seems to be some sort of agreement on supplying Leopard tanks to Ukraine now, after they failed to reach consensus at Rammstein.
>>46574 >>46578 >>46583 >a bizarre globohomo ritual in an Orthodox Church under Ukrainian control The dance party lights are an odd choice but I don't see what's "globohomo" about this. Dressing up a guy as an enemy, portraying him as consorting with devils, then "casting him out" seems like the sort of thing churches (and other religions) have done for thousands of years. Calling it "satanic" seems about as sensible as calling Setsubun pro-oni.
>>46588 >being this new Are you being willfully-ignorant, or are you actually uninformed about the total usurpation of the Christian communities under the Jewkraine dictatorship currently in control? The Globohomo labeling is directly in reference to the Globalist Jews of course, and their little golem Zelensky. And portraying Putin as Satan is obviously laughable in this specific context.
>>46588 Compare this video to the Swiss tunnel-opening ceremony. It's got very similar vibes. It's definitely globohomo shit. Of course, both Ukraine and Russia are part of the globohomo Satanic order.
>>46589 If you're defining everything that happens in a Ukrainian church as "globohomo" for those reasons why bother with the video at all? the fact that the churches exist at all would be enough. I don't see why a seemingly normal and innocuous ritual is somehow "evidence" of anything.
>>46590 You mean that time a few CERN scientists did a joke ceremony to mock people who thought the LHC would blow up the planet?
>>46592 Remember, it's not ironic if it's by someone I don't like >>46589 It's surreal that you faggots have the gall to call anyone else new
>>46592 Different ceremony, the one >>46590 is referring to was a very weird play for the opening of the Gotthard tunnel tunnel. Tbf ceremony was based on a folk-tale of Teufelsbrücke, the Devil's bridge - which the tunnel bypasses - so some satanic elements are par the course. Just "high" art being fucking weird as usual. Speaking of devilry Belorussian man thinks the almost-offensive in Zaporozhia a few days ago was all some elaborate scheme to cover the exfiltration of some Ukrainian turncoats.
>>46588 Under normal circumstances that is a fair assessment, however about 70% of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church was allied with the Russian Patriarchate rather than the Kievan patriarchate as of a few months ago, and Zelensky's (known) satanic regime has been committing war crimes against Orthodox Churches for the last six months. Russians and I assume Ukrainians are very superstitious, but this is not how that superstition manifests. The closest they've got to this level is the horny bathhouse youkai (Bannik).
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Apparently the Ukrainians snackbarred someone over in Berdiansk.
>>46594 I just want the Russians to make some kind of redeeming move. They've made miniscule gains but they haven't done shit since losing Kherson. I keep thinking "well if it's true that the reason they can't advance is Ukrainian resistance, then once they break through there will be very little resistance left" but we've still got another fucking front before Russia even gets to the lowlands and at this pace that could be October or November before it happens. I thought maybe they finally got serious with Surovikin but then they installed Gerasimov to help him "redeem" himself when they had the momentum and needed to NOT change around leadership. I thought maybe Zaporizhia indicated they were gonna fucking do something but now they're turning around and fucking off. God damn it, Russia. Do something for the first time in six months.
>>46587 Out of curiosity, would the second video be considered a war crime? they seemed to have been gunned down even when they're clearly not a threat, granted we don't see how far they're being shot from so maybe the shooters couldn't tell. Are we gonna see a pacific war situation soon? >>46597 Maybe it is as simply as grinding down the Ukrainians while minimizing their own losses, the recent quasi-offensive being a good example, they got in, captured a bunch of villages, then let the Ukrainians retake them easily and they're shelling the hell out of them as we speak.
>>46598 So long as they continue holding the rifles they are considered a threat, and two of them refuse to let go of their rifles until the end of the video (one because he's almost dead and the other because he's critically wounded). An old Soviet-era tactic was for wounded soldiers to call out that they are wounded and then proceed to shoot the medic or soldier that approached them since the ones doing the talking were typically in higher demand/harder to replace.
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>>46598 >Out of curiosity, would the second video be considered a war crime? Official story is that they tried to escape encriclement and were caught in the 'open', they were offered a surrender but their either didn't respond or refused so they got wasted. Like anon >>46599 said, they were armed so technically they're legally considered combatants. Not that legality means much once booltes start flying. >Are we gonna see a pacific war situation soon? Are you perhaps referring to the nuclear capable frigate 'Admiral Gorshikov' heading towards Hawaii as we speak?
>>46601 >Hawaii Bermuda* Please have patience, I'm retarded.
>>46601 I was more referring to not bothering even trying to take prisoners, but going right to executions or making yourself a human booby trap
>>46595 >Zelensky's (known) satanic regime He's a kike, retard. He worships the same god those churches do in the first place.
>>46603 The first casualty of war is the truth. Ultimately it's a question of if soldiers should risk their lives to approach an enemy in good faith who has previously shown they have no respect for the customs of warfare. Feels bad but their commanders brought this result upon them by not honoring gentlemen's agreements.
>>46604 Lol. Ever read the Gospels Strelok? >tl;dr >bad part: God's chosen people killed God Himself. >good part: Christianity was the result of God resurrecting Himself after all. One of these things is not like the other one.
>>46607 Schisms don't make it a different god any more than Catholics and Orthodox worship different gods.
>>46608 A schism suggests that there is a similar beliefsets. We don't call Islam a "schismatic sect of Christianity" (or vice versa). Mormons are closer to Christianity with their third book than Jews. The sons of Abraham who accept Christ follow a contractual rite wherein they uphold their historical contract to god in the context of Christianity, but Jews do not recognize Christ. The Old Testament doesn't make Christianity, the New Testament does. By all accounts Jews who refuse to recognize the messiah are playing into the hands of Lucifer who uses the scripture to corrupt believers and thus are working at the hands of the devil if not literal satanists.
And before you go >hurr durr kike on a stick The Abrahamic lineage/rites are a historical account not a contractual obligation (unless you are a first generation Jew convert to Christianity). Christians have all of five religious edicts that are in "law" rather than in honor, and four of them are only there for the sake of the sensibilities of original converts rather than official policy.
>>46609 >The Old Testament doesn't make Christianity, the New Testament does Yet the Old Testament is still part of Christianity. Christianity does not reject the god in the Old Testament as being a satanic impersonator, it treats him as (and requires him to be) the Christian God. Meaning that he is the same god followed by those who follow the Old Testament and reject the New.
>>46611 Except those that follow him while rejecting Christ (Jews) are damned since they don't believe he is the Messiah, whole those that do follow him (Christians) are saved.
>>46597 Why? USA objective seems to be "fight Russia to the last Ukrainian". Russia’s objective may well be "goad USA into throwing more resources into this bottomless hole, where it all will destroyed (if the less-loyal locals won't steal it first)". Even if more weapons pop up on black market, it's not a downside: ISIS types can be supported by the glowies directly anyway, and EU still doubles down on being good puppets, so fuck them. Also, seeing how the whole bioweapon song & dance is grinding to halt with sheepish "m-mistakes were made, l-let's just forgive and forget", lack of big distractions (that aren't obviously fake) increases probability that at least some of the most odious globohomo will get hanged soon-ish (in which case it probably won't stop at a few scapegoats). Creating any quasi-news at this time would only help the enemy with a massive domestic crisis.
>all this whining over what kikes believe in The globohome kikes are ethnic jews, generally "atheist" and actually Moloch worshippers. You can argue about the rules of Judaism and Christianity all you want, it's not like they're actually going to follow them.
>>46598 >Maybe it is as simply as grinding down the Ukrainians while minimizing their own losses, the recent quasi-offensive being a good example, they got in, captured a bunch of villages, then let the Ukrainians retake them easily and they're shelling the hell out of them as we speak. surovikin outright said that this was his goal, but, in the case of zapherosha, i think it is 2/3rds meant to draw in ukranian reserves while possibly opening up for an offensive in the south. if they were to take orikhiv, they would be better able to launch an offensive. but, again, i think it's 2/3rds to draw away reserves. i believe they've been trying to draw in ukranian reserves all along the line of contact, back since they started their southern donbas offensive to take uglidar. furthermore, they're apparently doing recon in the north. around sumy. they're stretching them out. this seems the most likely goal of their efforts. they still have 200k reserves still uncommitted to the battle; anywhere they decide to use them, in the case of ukrane's army being stretched out, would result in a breakthrough with little to stop them.
>>46598 >captured a bunch of villages, then let the Ukrainians retake them easily So all those gains are gone?
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where did this "everything i don't like is satanism" retardation come from anyway? only started seeing it in the past year or so, like everything that doesn't align with your beliefs is somehow a secret sacrificial ceremony to lucifer or something
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>>46618 >Everything I don't like Not everything I don't like. Only Jews and the societal elites (typically Jewish-adjacent). Other groups might be evil but that's different from Satanism. Which Jews are part of. Epstein-types are literally doing child blood sacrifices to Moloch; that's not an exaggeration or misconstruction of what they do. Some do child blood transfusions like Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates mixing the science with the esoteric, but they also do child blood sacrifices and child trafficking.
>>46616 To be honest I'm thinking the same, they can afford to play with Ukraine that way, but you know, time passes and we've yet to see the big pushes >>46617 The ones in zhaporzhye however that's spelled made recently yes. From what I've read that has been the usual conduct of the Russians, retreat easily and then pound with artillery until they can retake the moonscape where the town used to be. Two steps ahead one back and so on.
>We don't call Islam a "schismatic sect of Christianity" We do. Everyone does. Even mudslimes say that. Adamites are adamite are adamites.
>>46620 >zhaporzhye however that's spelled Its spelled Zaporoże. Glad to be of service.
>>46621 >we do Who's (((we)))?
>accidentally tune in to some talkshow in German state TV between gubbermint expurrts and other repräsentatives regarding the sale of Western MBTs to Hohols >one guy says it's a dangerous diplomatic eskalation >logistics man from the Bundeswehr starts talking about the problems behind sending Leo 2s to CY+7 Jewgraine >expect him to talk about Putler destroying infrastucture or Hohols having no Natto parts supply chain capable of keeping non-Warsaw pact gear operational >"we are unable to send tanks because we don't have any spares and are unable to procure any" >"after 25 Years of peace policy our Industry is blank. In 2019 we delivered 2 Eurofighter, with another pair currently scheduled to be delivered in 2027. This is unaccteptable in light oft current circumstances but we do not have the means to increase the pace of production" >guy from earlier starts talking about the PzH 2000s donated to Hohols last year >"we found that the amount of ammunition consumed by those 14 SPGs in the Ukraine over the course of 2 days is equivalent to what german military industry produces in a year" >"it's also not possible to keep the guns reasonably serviceable there as we can't produce more than 12 replacement gun barrel s per year" >Bundeswehr guy reenters the conversation >"we do not have any equipment for training new soldiers to increase our size at the moment. gib monies pl0x" What's the Ukrainian word for Endsieg?
>>46624 >the problems behind sending Leo 2s to CY+7 Jewgraine Well, Scholz has announced he's sending 14, so I guess he's decided you'll have to figure it out somehow lmao.
>>46588 >Throwing a party ambience inside a centenary church Already blasted away with the traditional aspect of respecting the house of the Lord there, few entities have to balls to do so knowing they might not get away with it. And it's red mist focused too with some rave modules on top of old icons. Even playing violin is a bit stepping on the etiquette for its aggressiveness, imagine someone trying to act Yngwie Malmsteen inside his church, he will get pelted ASAP by old folk even if he's all dressed up and polite >People dressed up as playful devils and one as a giant improvised pink pony/unicorn Come on now, full informality to the point of suspiciousness there >Thule/Winter solstice trees Traditional but ultimately not allowed inside churches, at least here in this part of the continent (US does not count) as it is regarded as not part of the church but a folk celebration from Europeans. Looks great but it's like hanging a giant piñata inside a church, this is just a nitpick because has nothing to do with it being satanic but does demonstrate the lack of knowledge they have unless it's a thing in Europe which i doubt in the Orthodox parts. The satanic tag is due to two reasons a) Symbolism usually associated with them (fantasy cryptids, horned people going around, red ambiance and mist/obfuscated sight) and b) Doing it inside a church in the first place (transgressive/total lack of traditional etiquette) It's like a hobo pooing, itself it is not satanic but if he does it inside a church, soils the place in red due to internal bleeding or too much beetroot juice and screams stuff damning both the church and God then yeah the guy is probably nuts and prompt to be kicked out for being stan's friend if he damns the church only and not God then he probably is just a friendly but very unhygienic believer :^) >>46591 >a seemingly normal and innocuous ritual Buddy >>46592 >a joke ceremony to mock Costs a lot anyways, also these things work with sigils and actions much more than intentions. It's like badly sucking your ex-GF brother's penis to spite on her and mock her skills, it might be a joke and it might be to ridicule her but it still is gay, everyone will consider you gay and the gay community will see you as one of their own sailors. Symbols are as powerful as words, same with rituals/actions, both are marked intentions by those who see and media has made it seem it doesn't matter by saying "just wear your shirt bro, do the horns bro" >>46604 >He's a kike, retard. He worships the same god those churches do L O L >>46618 >where did this "everything i don't like is satanism" retardation come from anyway? In the 70's or at least in the mainstream, some people started seeing patterns they thought were too explicit and intentioned. Peaked culturally in the 80's with the so-called satanic panic but it never left, just changed names and main aggressor, in the 90's it shifted into new age terms (aliums, nu-archons, rept*l*ans) and in the 00's with US government psyops and masons, past decade is a mix but mostly the same old rehash of masons/Soros/WEF/jesuits/anyone-but-the-jews. Early on it got ridiculed because the old moms were getting dangerously close to subjects that ended up being legit naughty boys, for example Jimmy Saville was lambasted even back then by brit grannies for using goat pendants, moving hips and shoulders to creep out and downright having the eyes of a maniac... but mostly the pendants and hand sigils. As evidence suggests they weren't wrong at all. >only started seeing it in the past year or so Are you even mexican in the first place or were you raised with Malcom in the Middle and Goku while your single mother worked minimum wage? In Mexico the satanic panic never really ended because it's everywhere, many cartel members associated with the army (aka half of the hitmen) practice it, many cops do too because they are double agents, all grannies and people older than 50 know half the symbols and dislike them, old school metalheads went all the way and even made rituals in their concerts (while reaping the results in their personal lives) it's all there unless you haven't lived the streets mang Sage because this is /x/-tier
>>46626 >Are you even mexican in the first place or were you raised with Malcom in the Middle and Goku while your single mother worked minimum wage? I meant online retard, and where I am doesn't reflect the other 99% of the country in the slightest.
Why the GOD DAMN do webms load so fucking slow on this site? I don't have this problem anywhere else.
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>>46624 >"we are unable to send tanks because we don't have any spares and are unable to procure any" >"after 25 Years of peace policy our Industry is blank. In 2019 we delivered 2 Eurofighter, with another pair currently scheduled to be delivered in 2027. This is unaccteptable in light oft current circumstances but we do not have the means to increase the pace of production" >"we found that the amount of ammunition consumed by those 14 SPGs in the Ukraine over the course of 2 days is equivalent to what german military industry produces in a year" >"it's also not possible to keep the guns reasonably serviceable there as we can't produce more than 12 replacement gun barrel s per year" >go from military juggernaut that dominated an entire continent on two occasions to not even capable of fixing a handful of cannons uncle adolf would be proud
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>>46628 romanian shitternet
>>46626 >>a seemingly normal and innocuous ritual >Buddy It is. I see nothing abnormal compared to the countless other ceremonies, festivals, and so on that have a demon, monster, dragon, historical foreign enemy, historical traitor, etc. made up as a dummy or a guy in costume and mocked, expelled, burned in effigy, and so on that countless cultures across the planet do in one way or another — except for the fact that we're looking at it while the enemy it's targeting is contemporary. >Symbolism usually associated with them (fantasy cryptids, horned people going around, red ambiance and mist/obfuscated sight) Claiming it's "satanic" because it uses a few red LEDs and cheap dollar-store horn headbands to portray their enemy associating with the devil is utter nonsense. >Costs a lot anyways, also these things work with sigils and actions much more than intentions. The one I was thinking of cost as much as a couple robes and a deliberately-shitty camera. I'm not familiar with the one Strelok actually meant, but it was a large-scale infrastructure project; I'd be more suspicious if it DIDN'T squander money on useless things just to pad pockets. And what do you mean that mockery works with "sigils and actions more than intentions"? Or are you actually so schizo that not only are you claiming this is all satanism, but that satanism actually works too?
>>46612 >Except those that follow him while rejecting Christ (Jews) are damned since they don't believe he is the Messiah But wait, Christians are also fucked because they reject the purveyour of snackbars Islam
>>46620 >From what I've read that has been the usual conduct of the Russians, retreat easily and then pound with artillery until they can retake the moonscape where the town used to be. That is basically Gerasimov's doctrine, there is little to no emphasis on pure land gains, also preference to engage in combat from a distance. Wagner is the wildcard in the mix of course, obviously doing their own thing. WeebUnion covered it not long ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsIA5eZfjj4
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>>46622 >Its spelled Zaporoże. Запорожье
>>46624 >"we are unable to send tanks because we don't have any spares and are unable to procure any" >In 2019 we delivered 2 Eurofighter, with another pair currently scheduled to be delivered in 2027. >"we found that the amount of ammunition consumed by those 14 SPGs in the Ukraine over the course of 2 days is equivalent to what german military industry produces in a year" And that was when Germany was still receiving an ample supply of cheap natural gas from Russia.
>>46578 >That don't make no sense but that video evidence is good to have the caption is from telegram. the ppl there are wearing halloween devil costumes, which wouldn't be so bad by itself, but combined with the rest... anyway, I'm just doing the Lord's work by disseminating content. This is another video I d/led back in November, and just trimmed for upload. >>46583 >>46590 yea really, there's definitely some occult weirdness going on. I was about to say that it's noticeably similar to that bizarre tunnel ceremony. >>46626 this is accurate. LOL @ those anons claiming this is "normal and innocuous" and denying that elite Jews are satanists. oy vey >>46615 >The globohomo kikes are ethnic jews, generally "atheist" and actually Moloch worshippers. correct >>46614 >>46616 keep in mind, by throwing NATO weapons at Ukraine, Russia gets the chance to capture and reverse-engineer them.
>>46587 >First one Ruskie was remembered he had a full auto option last second and went for it. Ended up saving his life.
>>46628 Don't know. It's faster to download a webm than to watch it. Ask on /meta/.
>>46570 Ambassadors act as slightly less than glowniggers and effectively government prostitutes to keep foreign officials entertained and fed what their government wants to hear. The position also allows for unruly or scandalous politicians to be stowed away and friends and family to be given free vacations.
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>>46618 Nutjobs on the Internet have been doing it for years, and as time has gone on it's been spilling more and more over to normalfags.
>just ignore the symbolism No.
>>46604 Don't the kikes worship Moloch?
>>46646 The Neocommunist World Order is comprised of sociopaths (brain washed propagandized ideologues and normies) at the lower levels. psychopaths as middle-management, and Sadistic (almost always 'Jewish') Satanists/Luciferians at the apex. This isn't to say that 'Yahwey' and 'Allah' are good. All are derivative variations of the ancient Cronus/Saturn cult, and the darker aspects at that. Honestly, you don't need to know the above. The present regime represented most directly by the WEF is open (although they don't spread it in their controlled-press, they do press releases) about their comically evil plans like a league of Bond/Batman villains (force the plebs to eat bugs, freeze in the dark, bathe monthly at most, keep them under town arrest, charge them for breathing, genetically modify them, spikes in their veins, regular Microsoft style 'virus protection, nanotech 6G grid-integration' CRT [hate Whitey] training ect). Everything the regimes they control do is anti-truth, anti-liberty, and anti-white. DEATH TO THE SYNAGOUGE OF SATAN AND THEIR NEOCOMMUNIST/BORG WORLD ORDER. VICTORY OR VALHALLA.
>>46650 The apparent majority of the elite Kikes certainly worship various evil (from an Aryan and even a general human perspective) 'higher powers.'
>>46652 The most famous and iconic image was the photo of a Rothschild with that slavic-jew Witch in front of 'Lucifer summoning his legions. Hilary Clinton reports (proof from her private server) to Evelyn Rothschild (she had her do penance for her mistakes) who has been photographed with images of Moloch as 'jewelry.'
>>46653 Honestly I don't remember much (thankfully) and I could have gone further down the (((rabbit hole))), but what is the point if virtually no one will even listen to me about obvious surface level stuff. Greater evils than you can imagine rule this world at this time, and they are very close to achieving their dream of hell on earth.
>>46654 It's almost like LOTR was allegory for the coming near future. But, I don't know what the 'one ring' could symbolize other than a completed global techno-grid that could ultimately be controlled by one admin or 'dark lord.'
>>46649 Semiotics is how (((they))) reveal their plans thereby easing their karmic guilt. It is also ultimately how the rule the world. Ignoring the signs is foolish, but so is being driven mad by them.
>>46655 >But, I don't know what the 'one ring' could symbolize other than a completed global techno-grid that could ultimately be controlled by one admin or 'dark lord.' You've got it that's it, Strelok. This one-world government 'admin' also goes by the self-descriptive name Antichrist. The (little 'a') anti-Christ Jews, bad as they are, are simply little golems all to eager to do this Globohomo Man's bidding.
So, has Russia finally got its shit together and we're witnessing return of initiative for them, or is this just few isolated cases of Russian advance?
>>46660 Hard to say, maybe they're just content with causing attrition, or maybe they're afraid of stretching logistics thin with land gains. But apparently ukrops are officially getting Leopard tanks from EU and possibly M1 from burgers. Didn't see any numbers mentioned, probably not much due to added logistics constraints. I take it the tanks will be serving as self propelled artillery for the most part.
>>46661 Honestly? Sending in leos feels to me like a hostile takeover of german defense industry and their long term contracts (maintanance and so on) by american military-industrial complex.
>>46624 How is it possible for them not to have any spares? Isn't Rheinmetall constantly shitting out new vehicles and selling them? Didn't they just sell over 200 fucking Lynx IFVs to Hungary a year or so ago AND built them 2 factories for both IFV and ammunition production? Also didn't they also sell 2 MANTIS systems to an unspecified country a while ago? They should be doing great financially. Or is it KMW exclusively that is supposed to make Leo 2 parts? Are they in financial trouble or something? Because if you tell me that it's neither companies' fault, then that means that the German military should off itself and start over.
>>46528 >>46536 Your politicians have been completely ignoring our warnings about Turkey forever. We're always given the same braindead reply by EU countries: "Blah blah blah stability in the region blah blah peace blah blah be friends". Now deal with the Turks yourselves. Make sure to bend over and spread your asscheecks wide open so that the islamic mixed mongoloid monkeys let you in. If it was up to me I'd object to Sweden and Finland joining NATO out of sheer spite. Anyway have fun.
I'm curious how Hohols are supposed to obtain fuel for the M1, do they need to sack a few additional oligarchs in order to siphon kerosene from private Jets? Could >we bear witness to ISIS-tier footage of hohol-operated western MBTs being field supplied by goat/horse/mule while firing at russian targets?
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>>46665 >I'm curious how Hohols are supposed to obtain fuel for the M1, do they need to sack a few additional oligarchs in order to siphon kerosene from private Jets? I thought that was the Russians that sacked the Jews, Strelok? >Could >we bear witness to ISIS-tier footage of hohol-operated western MBTs being field supplied by goat/horse/mule while firing at russian targets? Anything that sends more Ukrainians into the hole will garner support from Greater Jerusalem, so yeah likely.
>>46661 >Hard to say, maybe they're just content with causing attrition Prigozhin said main taks of Wanger in Soledar was to destroy UAF manpower, land gains were secondary . But it's hard to say where truth ends and cope begins. >Didn't see any numbers mentioned >Germany will give us 14 Leopard models A6. >Poland plans to donate 14 Leopards. >The Netherlands wants to donate about 18 Leopards. >Portugal will send 4 Leopard models A6 to Ukraine. >Spain plans to transfer 53 Leopards. >Sweden may send Stridsvagn 122 tanks to Ukraine (the exact number was not named). >Norway and Finland expressed their readiness to supply tanks, but did not disclose details. >Total about 103 tanks. In addition, according to ABC News, at the Ramstein-8 meeting, 12 countries agreed to transfer 100 Leopards to Ukraine, that is, there may be more in total.
>>46667 >no Nipponese Type 10s or Type 90s Lame, but at least we'll soon find out how realistic War Thunder's damage models and balancing really are.
>>46670 I just can't wait to grief npcs who don't realize no tank is indestructible. I milked that turkroach Leopard 2 fiasco in Syria for months. It's gonna be great.
>>46667 >But it's hard to say where truth ends and cope begins. Considering the balance of forces manpower and firepower their strategy makes a lot of sense to be honest, sooner the Ukrainian army will have suffered so many losses that taking and holding land won't be an issue. Russia still better up the pace or aid packages might make the difference and not in their favor.
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>>46651 If you had said derivatives of Zoroastrianism I would have smirked but otherwise not mentioned anything, but stop getting your information about Christianity from meme images, LARPagan. >>46662 Because it is. The Biden Administration has said outright in various flubs that their goal is to make Western Europe subservient to their goals because they've gotten uppity in the last two decades trying to compete with America. It's why they are trying to make Europe dependent on Norwegian and American gas (Norway gets a cut in exchange for American submission), it's why they are trying to infiltrate Western European militaries with American weapons systems even at gunpoint, it's why they're trying to pry open Europe's protectionist farming industry to American GMOs/Canadian Big Milk in the face of Europe's environmental social credit shit, and it's why they have to prop up this war in Ukraine. During the pandemic America "spent" ungodly amounts of currency to prop up the empire during the social experiment. Sure it may be paper fiat, but even fiat has the intrinsic value of workmanship and resources behind it E.G. it has been devalued bigly. The Trump Response was to try and shore up American Industry before the inevitable global collapse BEFORE this big spend, but now that the Imperialists are in charge they are hedging their bets on shorts during a global recession since everyone else also spent ungodly amounts of money and they expect to turn a profit and remain the global currency through money manipulation. When shit goes tits up America is expecting that in the face of devalued currencies, the international markets will sell off the American dollars they have given out over the last three years which will have a deflationary effect on the US dollar normalizing prices. Russia poses a direct threat to this scheme by being the resource backbone of BRICS and thus acts as a competitive alternative to countries investing back into America. America has to continue the war in Ukraine because Europe is America's insurance policy in case BRICS (Russia) succeeds. So long as Europe keeps funneling money and weapons into Ukraine at the behest of the British (who struck a deal with the Americans), they become increasingly reliant on the Americans (a resource rich country) to shore up their deficits and keep shit running. America has a major MIC so they need European militaries reliant on American-made systems. Dead Russians are an added bonus because it limits the extent of BRICS and Ukraine doesn't fucking matter so long as a rump state remains since they've already money laundered and simultaneously offloaded their debt onto the country the way they did so to Japan and Germany and how Russia and Romania did so to Moldova. It's why they are panicking because Russia's economic success means they have to roll back to plan B (debt/resource enslavement of Europe and Japan) which risks a civil war back in America.
>>46664 Don't you have a military campaign to get ready for? The Turks have been lining up to take several islands for months now while your government has done jack all in response except bitch.
>>46673 Ukraine still has enough manpower pool to draw from according to analysis even with all the casulties. The main problem is getting them to the front trained,equipped and supplied. Those who do get sent in good order don't usually last for long time and it's starting to have negative impact on Ukrainan morale again. So I guess Russian strategy kinda works. >Russia still better up the pace or aid packages might make the difference and not in their favor Agreed. The equipment sent to Ukraine is no longer able to be considered just a nuisance. I hope for Russians that they have a decisive battle of two planned in the near future. Russia could use another Operation Bagration.
Assault on Ugledar (or Uhledar) has begun. Russian Marines,Kaskad and BARS are taking part in the assault, they report hard fighting and taking first few houses.
The US is sending 31 Abrams tanks (a battalion) to Ukraine.
So with NATTO so openly sending such numbers of "only-properly-trained-men-can-operate-this-machine" gibbs to Jewkriane, isn't this an implicit escalation into a World War?
I'm getting legitimately worried now, I'm past my edgy phase where i wanted to see the world burn and now that i have things to live for i really hope it doesn't come down to the worst.
>>46683 time to become Jody strelok
>>46680 Sounds like Kievan McCarthy pissed himself when he heard about Bakhmut and agreed to the Biden Admin's demands for more waaaagh. The beatings will continue until morale improves.
>>46683 I want a Third World War so badly that if I could initiate it right now, I probably would, especially since I'm in a place that would probably be safe from the immediate attacks. Really, if there's a nuclear war, I bet Russia would just Ukraine, and NATO would back down. It would be stupid for the United States to risk attacks on its major cities over a non-NATO country on the other side of the world. Expect for the Ukrainians to be left in the dust if Putin turns up the heat.
>>46682 Abrams and Leopards were Russia's big red line (the next being jets), so yes. Russia won't openly attack NATO (yet) and NATO won't openly attack Russia (yet) but we're in the pre-war phase like Germany before WWII and all the mini-wars before WWI, or like Russia and Japan duking it out pre-Sino war.
>>46683 The time to ask for peace was 8-11 months ago yet everyone cheered the world burning. The fire is out of control and the consequences are exactly what anon warned about before the war started. Now it is time for the world to sleep in the beds they made. For Russia time will tell if that straw bed catches on fire. For North America/Europe? That hole is now their grave for the next 15-30 years.
>>46686 The way I see it going down is Russia will triumph over Western arms (jets) revealing NATO as a paper tiger. At that point NATO will be left with the choice of pulling support like their predecessors did to Finland, or putting boots on the ground. If they put boots on the ground Russia will shell them and NATO will have to choose between escalating as "an attack on NATO" getting their dick (the Baltics) chopped off by a cigar cutter (Russian/Belarusian cooperation) or they will stand down. At that point Russia will take the entire Baltics and if NATO doesn't back down they will nuke a major military installation in Northern Ukraine. Then if things have escalated to that level, I expect NATO will back down because nuclear war only benefits the masses and not the rich, and NATO will agree to a provisional agreement in which Russia gives up their claim to the Baltics in exchange for the partitioning of Ukraine and dissolution of post-1980s NATO (with the exception of Poland). This will lead to a new age of European colonialism of North/West Africa to replace resources from Russia that are no longer available (or only available at inflated prices) assuming Europe doesn't go through a death spiral of complete population collapse due to WEF fuckery.
>all this autistic screeching about ww3 absolutely nothing is going to happen you colossal retards, Ukraine will be castrated by Russia and that's it, not even the senile old men in charge are going to bring out muh nooks over a country that has no purpose beyond agriculture. i thought you "people" were smarter than this.
>>46690 >absolutely nothing is going to happen You said the EXACT same thing about the possibility of Russia invading Ukraine.
>>46689 >This will lead to a new age of European colonialism of North/West Africa to replace resources from Russia that are no longer available (or only available at inflated prices) assuming Europe doesn't go through a death spiral of complete population collapse due to WEF fuckery. How are they going to sell that to their populations when the propaganda of 'whites colonizing black lands and stealing their resources = PURE EVIL!' has been the rule of the day for a couple of generations now. Do Americans and Euros have an emergency "make nogs shut the fuck up and get in their place switch" that none of us know about?
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Why do all the retarded posts and shizoposts lack a flag, even just a funflag? >>46690 Ukraine contains 1/6th of the world's food supply at a time when the WEF is running a depopulation agenda by raising the price of food. Tell me Mr. Mask-man, who is going to deescalate first? Who is going to take the L and get blamed for everything collapsing in the West when they're left holding the bag? Biden was supposed to be that sucker but he could hardly get the Democrats a win even with ballot harvesting and was cognizant (or perhaps gone) enough to not back down so who is going to commit political suicide? Western Democracies can't back down until popular opinion shifts to favor backing down. Nobody currently feels the existential threat of escalation because commodities have been artificially kept cheap and the current generations haven't feared war because of volunteer armies? Who is going to shoot themselves to end this insanity spiral before we are at the precipice of annihilation or even past it? There are no brakes on the fun train.
>>46693 >Why do all the retarded posts and shizoposts lack a flag, even just a funflag? Because tor. In my case I forget to put on a flag because I usually post from the floating reply box.
>>46692 They'll sell the idea they're bringing LGBT rights and feminism to those places >>46693 The WEF is a meme to be honest
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>>46692 >How are they going to sell that to their populations when the propaganda of 'whites colonizing black lands and stealing their resources = PURE EVIL!' has been the rule of the day for a couple of generations now. Have you seen how Americans are panicking about the price of eggs? The thing about a consumerist society is that while they are hard to set into motion due to content laziness, once set into motion the momentum turns them into rabid dogs willing to commit mass atrocities to ensure their way of life. You don't cut off the chicken nuggie slurry directly into their veins unless you want mass genocides.
>>46696 Watching Amiraga go from St. Floyd to "get back in the ghetto nigger" is going to be a hell of a show.
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>>46691 no, that was a different retard >>46693 >1/6th of the world's food supply if that was true we'd all be starving, agro juggernauts like Brazil and the burger heartland blow jewkraine's production out of the water. >at a time when the WEF is running a depopulation agenda by raising the price of food >everything bad that has and ever will happen is because of some kraut pulling a bunch of levers in his office take your meds >Tell me Mr. Mask-man, who is going to deescalate first? NATO, once Ukraine's momentum finally runs out due to lack of manpower and there's nobody left to drive the tanks they're sending them. Then Jewtin will have won by proving the West isn't going to do shit, and the West will then have to rebuild their depleted stockpiles in shame and deal with civil unrest because of all the money they took from their population and threw into a pit. >Western Democracies can't back down until popular opinion shifts to favor backing down. >implying that those in power give a fuck about popular opinion or are shifted by it that's what the riot bolis are for, as long as the peacemakers get paid (which they will) nothing is going to happen. now quit fearmongering or go run off innawoods already.
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>>46674 do you have ONE (1) source to back up any of that
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>>46699 Justify the mass spending on foreign countries in the Biden Agenda bill and Omnibus bill during a massive recession without using deflationary rebuying of dollars in the future first. I demand a rebuttal/counter-explanation for why America would be handing out currency like candy first if you wish to attack my educated guess in good faith.
>>46700 >post sauce >NO U POST SAUCE FOR WHY YOU THINK I'M WRONG you don't get how this works
>>46674 Zoroastrianism, like Buddhism, was founded by an Aryan and predates Christianity and contains most of the main Christian ideas. Christianity is essentially Judaized Zoroastrianism. Sources: https://nationalvanguard.org/2023/01/deadly-dogmas/ https://nationalvanguard.org/2022/10/some-textual-sources-for-an-aryan-buddha/
>>46703 https://nationalvanguard.org/2022/07/the-origins-of-christianity-part-9/ https://nationalvanguard.org/2022/07/the-origins-of-christianity-part-10/ https://nationalvanguard.org/2022/08/the-origins-of-christianity-part-13/ >the theological doctrine of xvaetvadatha, which recommends as especially pious and meritorious sexual unions between mother and son and between brother and sister While still anti-Gay, like seemingly all monotheistic religions, Zoroastrianism had a unique take on sexuality.
>>46665 >do they need to sack a few additional oligarchs in order to siphon kerosene from private Jets? Sounds like a good prophylactic measure either way. >>46666 checked. >>46667 >Prigozhin said main taks of Wanger in Soledar was to destroy UAF manpower, land gains were secondary It does align with Russian top level doctrine in this conflict. I wonder what the hohol:wagnerite kill ratio is, Russia would probably be content even if it was 1:1. >Total about 103 tanks. That's nothing to sneeze at, especially if they are delivered in large batches instead of a trickle. Hohol crews should be finishing their training just in time for rasputitsa though. or maybe the tanks come with ((foreign mercenaries))?
>>46704 Although, arguably, Christianity and Zoroastrianism are actually dualistic religions. >>46674 Biden is a puppet of the NWO. The apparent conflict between the USSA and EUSSR is really a conflict between the two branches of the NWO for who is more on top in the competition for middle-management. The Rothschilds/Rockefellers/Warburgs et al, remain in upper management regardless.
>>46689 Don't forget China too, I'd be shocked if the Taiwan/Korea fuckery doesn't escalate the moment NATO makes a major move in Europe. US will be forced to try and project force on two sides of the globe at the same time.
>>46666 >checked. Double checked.
>>46707 The classic two front war... the US (at the behest of elite Jews) won that in WW2, but besides higher tech, in every other way the US has declined since that era.
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Did you wish him a happy birthday?
>>46711 I didn't know. I do wish him a nice stay in hell.
>>46693 >complain about schizos >WEF kek >WEF is running a depopulation agenda by raising the price of food >because commodities have been artificially kept cheap Make up your mind yo whatever is left of it >>46696 >Have you seen how Americans are panicking about the price of eggs? And eggs are the least of their worries to be honest, chicken populations can rebound relatively quickly after the bird flu cull. >>46700 >why America would be handing out currency like candy Because printer go brrrrr, it's not even a real printer actually just flip a few bits in a database, easy, couldn't be cheaper!
>>46656 The only people I ever see getting "driven mad" by this are the fags who literally get mad if you point anything out. The number of times I've had people immediately jump down my throat for mere speculation about this kind of shit is ridiculous, and when I do decide there is something deeper to these sorts of things it's borderline impossible to actually talk about it because the screeching will increase by orders of magnitude. That kind of reaction seems a whole lot more mentally disturbed to me than saying "this ritual is some cult bullshit" because, you know, it's a fucking bizarre ritual no matter how you look at it.
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>>46701 >>NO U POST SAUCE I didn't ask you for sauce, I asked for some kind of counter-example or rational explanation that does not involve deflationary rebuying of dollars. Requesting sauce suggests a disbelief in the presented argument. I have provided an argument that fits within the American framework of foreign policy of protectionism targeting allies (as witnessed in the 80s ITRON project cancellation or Trump's tariffs on Japanese wheat because of Japanese whiskey being cheaper and better than American brands). I am asking for a counterargument (which can be entirely speculative) as to why you hold disbelief in my presented hypothesis in good faith before engaging in a pointless internet slapfight. The act you are engaging in right now would be as if I were to say... >"I think most mammals enjoy fruit because fruit contains sugar which is an energy-dense molecule" and you were to go... >"Nah you're full of shit, post proofs" Without knowing which part you think is shit, or why you think I'm full of shit, or what your angle is, how am I supposed to "post proofs" or provide a compelling argument in good faith when dealing in the speculative?
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As a reminder, one reason for this war is to retake the Judeo-Khazar (conquered) homeland from the Slavic descendants of the Rus.
>>46697 Hopefully it goes more like "kill those kikes and we'll set you up a place in Africa nigger" and then the establishment of Liberia 2 soon follows, only the deportations don't stop before they're all gone this time.
>>46714 >Because printer go brrrrr While I would consider that a fair assessment with bygone conclusions, for the sake of carrying this thought to completion for you I'd have to then ask if printer go brrrrr why explicitly fund overseas projects that are "use it/sell it or lose it" and refuse to fund domestic projects where the brrrrrring can be reinvested ad nauseum? >Make up your mind yo It's both. Artificially is being used as a synonym for "unsustainably." Like in most of these schemes, the illusion of normalcy is only maintained long enough for the shifting of the overton window into complicity towards [new thing] at which point [old thing] is thrown out the window. Sometimes the powers that be (largely the WEF) overstate their hand which results in blowback (price of gasoline before election season, price of eggs right now, lockdown measures to restrict travel such as during Chink Flu). Look up the drowning rats psychology experiment. If you put a rat in a bucket of water it stops swimming after 15-20 minutes and drowns. If you save it right before it drowns and repeat the experiment the next day, it will swim for hours or days. Results don't change much from wild rats and domestic rats. They normalize X (meat is expensive, gasoline is expensive) to get you to do Y (eat the bugs/soy, not drive your car), then they temporarily give it back to you/pretend to lower the cost before coming up with some hackneyed excuse to take it away more permanently next time.
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>>46700 I don't think you understand how bad things really are. pretend the Kennedy meme from 2012 is my image The Fed has magicked up something like 90 trillion dollars since 2008, including "loans that you can't refuse" to foreign countries like Italy, France, and Japan in order to prop up the petrodollar. I think that total includes all the overnight bank shortfall loan system shenanigans from the pandemic and the months preceding it. Things went tits up in September of 2019 to the point that a total collapse was predicted to be inevitable by march of 2020. I'm mostly convinced that the rona was unleashed from US and UK University labs 12 Monkey style to the Wuhan red herring leak lab in order to justify the lock downs needed to soften the the financial collapse and usher in the domination of the self styled technocratic elite. If I'm actually mentally ill I fell through the cracks, no meds for me.
>>46722 Eh, I mean I consider that an acceptable position to hold (the technocratic elites being the WEF) so I don't see a real reason to argue with it. The alternate explanation is primarily trying to rationalize the decisionmaking of world leaders in a way that is kikeish but not inherently evil, but if you work from the angle that these people are evil than that explanation is perfectly reasonable.
>>46721 >why explicitly fund overseas projects that are "use it/sell it or lose it" They couldn't just ignore these "overseas projects". In the grand scheme of things the 10s of billions that were spent on these projects are peanuts compared to >fund domestic projects where the brrrrrring can be reinvested ad nauseum when was it 5 or 7 trillion (who's counting anyway..) pumped into the money supply. US government doesn't have the capability to invest in large scale projects because muh socialism, the $ either end up in the military budget or a sugar-high stock market, anything else is politically impossible in this country. >Sometimes the powers that be (largely the WEF) overstate their hand which results in blowback Are these powers that be in the room with you now? Do not postulate entities beyond necessity. No one/group has a working model for manipulating events with any sort of useful precision. If we must use analogies I'll go with a swarm of ants all semi-randomly pulling on a large piece of food, sometimes the net force will move the food in one direction but it's largely a chaotic system.
>>46723 Evil is usually a bit to subjective of a word choice for my taste but since the western democratic system seem to disproportionately select narcissistic sociopaths with various levels of self awareness it seems appropriate.
>>46715 Very true TBH.
>>46725 I use the word 'evil' to describe anything strongly in opposition to my interests and/or fundamentally anti-Truth, anti-Beauty, anti-Liberty, and anti-White.
>>46680 >The US is sending 31 Abrams tanks (a battalion) to Ukraine. >The Abrams tanks will not come from existing Department of Defense stock, since the Pentagon needs them, according to John Kirby, National Security Council coordinator for strategic communications. >Kirby told reporters at the White House they instead will be procured, meaning it will take "many months" for the very sophisticated weaponry to reach Ukraine. Whelp... at least the headlines are good!
>>46724 >No one/group has a working model for manipulating events with any sort of useful precision Their goal is White genocide and the death of the West. They don't have to be that precise to get what they want. Just make sure the general trends are in line with their goals. Do you honestly believe the most powerful and influential jews on the planet who have a hold of almost all banking, media, and world governments don't have goals and ambitions? That would unironically be more delusional than the smart-dust mind control everything-is-a-psyop blackpillers' ideas. At least their theories line up with the motives of the megalomaniacal kikes in charge.
>>46727 Good take. Moral relativists get the rope.
>>46728 >The Abrams tanks will not come from existing Department of Defense stock, since the Pentagon needs them They have to deter Mexican tacowagons from rolling across the border. Or the Royal Canadian Mounted Yaksmen from making a push south. They need them to invade Iran
>>46732 I would expect a domestic purge before a new foreign war. If those Abrams are to be used it will be in a counter insurgency role, I reckon. Not that they're very useful in that role but ya know, ZOGs gonna ZOG.
>>46729 >Do you honestly believe the most powerful and influential jews on the planet who have a hold of almost all banking, media, and world governments don't have goals and ambitions? Their goal and ambition is their own power, not the death of the system that lets them hold power. The problem comes from the fact that the way to short term gain may be (and often is) self-destructive in the long run.
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>>46729 >moving the goalposts >strawman >appeal to ridicule pic related >White genocide and the death of the West. For the sake of argument let's say they have succeeded... then what? Does ${obscure_mythological_entity} give them head pats?
>>46735 >Their goal and ambition is their own power, not the death of the system that lets them hold power. Agreed. >The problem comes from the fact that the way to short term gain may be (and often is) self-destructive in the long run. Fair enough. It's not like I can see the future, but the trends aren't promising. >>46736 >For the sake of argument let's say they have succeeded... then what? Does ${obscure_mythological_entity} give them head pats? They certainly seem to believe so. It's also conducive to long term consolidation of power to eliminate the only race who tried to rip it all away from them 80 years ago.
>bunch of NATO bullshit being sent to Ukraine >Russia is buying a bunch of burger shit from the Taliban Cool this will now serve as a testing ground for burger tech vs western yuro tech.
>>46739 >>Russia is buying a bunch of burger shit from the Taliban Holy kek, gtfo. Please give source because that's hilarious if true. >Be Taliban/Mujaheddin >Russia invades >Expel them after a decade of occupation >Take the shit the Russians left over >America invades >Expel them after almost TWO decades of occupation >Take the shit the Americans left over >Sell the American shit to the Russians for more money and even more Russian shit.
>>46734 If even a tiny number of veterans who are intimately familiar with an Abrams, or any other US military vehicles, decide to join any kind of insurgency it's going to make Afghanistan look like a walk in the park instead of the two decade fuckup that it was.
>>46727 the latter three being entirely subjective and the first one being irrelevant because your truth is not my truth and vice versa. kill yourself.
>>46740 >Expel them More like they got bored and decided to leave
Forgot one. https://kabulnow.com/2023/01/putin-is-plotting-arms-exchange-with-the-taliban/ https://archive.ph/K2X6G >>46744 Nice patriautism, losing a war of attrition is still losing a war.
>>46743 He's right, you're wrong.
>>46718 Sources are part of the argument unless it is common knowledge, i.e. none of what you said. >Japanese whiskey being cheaper and better than American brands That is subjective and not common knowledge, maybe I like Wild Turkey more than whatever japshit is sold at the liquor store. You're asking for a counterargument when you never provided a proper one in the first place. >"I think most mammals enjoy fruit because fruit contains sugar which is an energy-dense molecule" The latter portion of that (sugar which is an energy-dense molecule) is not common knowledge, I would accept scientific articles that describe what sugar is and how it interacts with mammals' sense of taste and smell and why that illicits a pleasureable response. Otherwise that is an observation or a subjective opinion, and I would still expect sources to back it up beyond "dude trust me", or clarify at the start that it is a subjective opinion.
>>46746 >siding with the local ethnoglobe turbosperg
>>46720 It would be a shame to fuck up some African country even worse than what it is by importing 30 million ameriniggers into it.
>>46749 It would be pissing into an ocean of piss.
>Make a few off-replies >Watch a video on how to make chloroform and take a nap >Wake up to a completely derailed thread Never change, /k/. I'm gonna off-topic one last time and then I'll stop. >>46747 >unless it is common knowledge, i.e. none of what you said. Ok. If you want to play that game, then no source for you and no more (You)s for not playing ball then, Mr. Fancy lala homo man. >>46725 Evil is pretty objective if you have a Christian moral fiber. I'd agree that two of those (Anti-Truth, Anti-Liberty) are objective definers while a third (anti-Beauty) is typically an indicator if beauty is understood to represent the natural order, or tradition and sanctity (non-religious usage of the word). >>46728 The American military is a joke anyways. >>46739 Heh. >>46732 >Spoiler Oh they're gonna one way or another and it's gonna explode in their faces because Iran isn't a bunch of goat fuckers in a desert like all their other targets. >>46729 I think absolute power through policies that turn people into pod-livers eating bugs is a better answer that isn't divide-and-conquer. It's not about whites it's about destroying ALL national identities to create a "global identity" because when people don't feel like they belong anywhere because everywhere is the same garbage, they become demoralized; demoralized people don't lash out. They aren't trying to genocide whites, they're trying to genocide anyone who isn't part of their small group of elites (whites being one of many groups) by creating a homogenized but confused group that can work as a slave caste. >>46749 It would probably be an improvement for the Khoisans and Coloureds down in South Africa over their Bantu-nigger parasitoid infestation. >>46742 >>46745 >Russia is a large producer of food >Afghanistan experiencing a famine >Russia has a chance to buy working weapons to steal tech >Taliban has a chance to get food gibs I mean it makes sense. My only issue is >According to the British SUN That being said Soviet occupation of Afghanistan was generally seen favorably by the Taliban's leadership. They just wanted them to fuck off because of drugs and other internal issues like propping up warlords, so normalizing relationships with Russia wouldn't come as much of a surprise. They've normalized relations with the Chinese and I think they've realized how much of a mistake that was so they need a counterbalancing force to not become like the Southern half of Africa.
>>46749 It would be barbaric. Africans know how to farm the land, get water, chuck spears, make at least a basic subsistence. The American nigger doesn't even know how to pick cotton anymore. Maybe the Africans would eliminate them in a Rwanda style genocide.
>>46753 >Africans know how to farm the land Judging from what I've read from a Peace Corps volunteer, that's pushing it.
>>46754 Hey man, farming at 30% efficiency is still farming! It's okay though Chaim Greenblatt will still fund campaigns to send goyslop to all those future doctors and engineers.
>>46753 The African population is sustained by foreign aid. Look what happened to Rhodesia when they killed the Whites who were the farmers. Same thing is happening in South Africa, only the Chinese are now colonizing their future puppet state. Tl;dr deporting niggers back to Africa is a sane and humane policy.
So apparently Biden is sending 31 Abrams tanks to Ukraine. I'm sure Russia won't take that to be an escalation and a direct threat or anything.
>>46757 I wonder how far the escalation will go?
>>46752 >I mean it makes sense. My only issue is >>According to the British SUN Yeah I understand, but with how absolutely wild and retarded even the supposedly "trustworthy" news sources are about this conflict I figured what the hell and posted it anyway. >>46749 Africans will fuck themselves up anyway. >>46753 >Africans know how to farm the land, get water They only know how to do the first one well enough to sustain a small fraction of their populations without extensive outside gibs, and lol lmao at that second one they still die in droves from drinking contaminated water because boiling it is literal magic beyond comprehension to a lot of them and whenever some retarded nigger worshiping yt cuckolds run over to graciously install filtration systems in their villages they always fuck it up and go back to drinking shit water the moment the pale magicians leave. Unless by "get water" you meant literally just fetching it, I wouldn't put it past them to fuck that up too though.
>>46758 Russian media already portrays them as at war with NATO so they probably take it as a challenge. >>46756 Africans know how to herd animals and sustain small-scale farms in the rural areas. They can't sustain large populations because those farms are sustenance rather than commercial farms in most cases. City niggers are city niggers regardless of country or skin color.
>>46762 >Foreign minister said it Isn't that considered an official declaration if the German chancellor doesn't come out and walk back the comments?
>>46763 Absent non-nigger intervention, the population of niggers would fall back to levels sustainable by minimal effort 'farming' hunting and cannibalism. So divide the current nigger population world wide by 100. >>46762 >German foreign minister essentially speaks for the entire EUSSR and declare war on Russia Oy vey. >>46765 Yes, it is extremely serious.
>>46683 i disagree with the point that this is an existential war for the west--this is existential for russia, nobody else. furthermore, russia has the capabilities to defend itself from a western attack as they currently are and the west hasn't got the production to maintain a war that would be required to take out russia by conventional means. i think we will see the west try to make the most of ukraine but go no farther; they will not ultimately risk a direct war with russia. the next few years will be, for the west, dedicated to military build up and possibly social repression. the west (the usa) will fight for alliances around the world or to coerce countries aligning with the east. in this time, russia and china will have the manufacturing and military lead over the west but i do not believe that they will go on the attack for fear of alienating the rest of the world and ruining future relations with the west.
>>46765 >>46767 >It's a Germany starts a world war for the third goddamn time episode.
>>46762 >inb4 Germany's plan is to kickstart WW3 so Russia invades Poland just so Germany can get out of paying reparations to Poland.
>>46769 >this is existential for russia, nobody else What about Ukraine? They already don't exist unless you count their color revolution puppet government.
>>46762 Her accent reminds me of that old Hansel and Gretel cartoon that was on Loony Tunes. OOONT MAI NEYM IST HAANNNNTSSELL
>>46772 the question of ukraine's existence as a state has only been speculated on by hyperbolic western leaders whose interest it is to drum up support for kiev, but has never been a goal of russia's to destroy. i will remind you that ukraine had every opportunity to 'pull up' from this war, but they hadn't. they've had years to resolve this peacefully and after direct conflict with the russians began they turned down the offer for a peaceful resolution and has since made any further discussions of the matter a joke by their insistance that they may only begin after russia leaves all of ukraine (uncluding crimea? i don't quite remember). it does not seem that ukraine, as a state, even has regard for its own existence, if we are to regard such a thing as territorial integrity. but, beyond that, i don't see how this war is meant, outside of russia's annexation of several of her republic memberstates to be existential to ukraine's existence. (i just want to add that i don't see russia's annexation of kherson and zaporizhia as legitimate as the votes, even if they are/were legitimately done without coercion, were done under military occupation.) the continuity of the country remains intact and i don't see how it would genuinely be to russia's interests to destabilize the country by disrupting that.
>>46775 >the continuity of the country remains intact the continuity of the [government] remains intact*
>>46740 >>46739 >>46742 It seems very unlikely to me. I expect they are spreading this rumour so when photos of destroyed burger tanks end up on the internet they can deny them being in Ukrainian service and insist that they are actually Russian.
>>46757 >So apparently Biden is sending 31 Abrams tanks to Ukraine. Definitely maybe, see >>46728 it might be a stunt to unblock EU releasing their Leopard stocks. Many things can happen in those many months, I wouldn't be shocked if they never end up materializing.
>>46775 >i don't see how it would genuinely be to russia's interests to destabilize the country by disrupting that. I mean they've already destabilized it plenty over the past year, not to mention the mega fucked demographics Ukraine will have coming out of this. Russia wanted their own puppet in Kiev ever since the orange revolution/Maidan, now this will never happen because holols are now permanently polarized against Russia so the only "solution" remaining for Russia is to dismantle that Ukranian state.
>>46770 >>46771 You can't kickstart a world war that is already ongoing and even if it was NATO skullduggery that lead to the war, it was Russia that officially declared the war. Germany's current behavior is directed by the fact that Germany is in NATO, but Germany doesn't like NATO because the USA and others are backstabbing arrogant cunts. Germany doesn't have a ball in the current game, the Ukraine isn't a member of NATO hence why Germany doesn't care about it, Germany also does not have a strong bond to the Ukraine and to topple it off Selenskyj is just a bastard who repeatedly insults Germany. By supporting the Ukraine Germany loses a great trading partner in Russia and Germany cares more about the German-Russia Relationship post WW2, than it cares about the Ukraine. Yet Germany is pressured by other NATO members to support the Ukraine and be against Russia, especially by the USA and Poland, both of these two Nations conspire against Germany to weaken it. They dream of an intermarriage of Eastern European states to keep Germany and Russia separated. The USA also plans to steal German arms deals in Europe and replace the Leopard tanks that are send into the Ukraine with Abraham tanks.
>>46780 Berlin-moscow axis should've happened
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kek at the amount of sudden glowniggery gayops that popped up in this thread b/c kike-world-wars III, electric boogalee.
>>46779 that is overly pessimistic. i do not believe that. relations can be normalized, as hard as that might seem. as for the destabilization russia has done to ukraine over this last year, there has been a lot of moaning from war watchers of how little 'shock and awe' russia has done from the start of the war. it was only after ukraine refused the offered peace did russia move on to attacking their electrical grid. it is important to remember the chronology of these events. their demographics have been fucked since before the war. ukraine is an immensely corrupt country and has been every since the collapse of the soviet union. utterly striped clean by vultures who've gutted it of it's sophisticated industry, resulting in a brain-drain and an overall population decline.
>>46698 >>everything bad that has and ever will happen is because of some kraut pulling a bunch of levers in his office >take your meds A) Strawman. B) Demonstrably true for the most part. WEF is the single most important visible tool on Earth today in destroying the West. They themselves literally brag about it openly now.
So...can we discuss Ukraine war here or is the war now off topic for this thread?
>>46782 The only glow op is you retard there's nothing wrong with tangents and things got back on track before you made that post.
>>46727 >and/or fundamentally anti-Truth, anti-Beauty, anti-Liberty, and anti-White. The (((Plan))) for the goyim, pretty much in a nutshell. Every one of these areas fundamentally argue for the dignity of men. Obviously, this is in flat-opposition to the plan for them.
>>46787 >nou
>>46736 this is a fed
Is this the start of the much predicted Winter offensive?
Post quality over the past several days has dropped precipitously.
>>46781 I'm taking a four or five day break from the thread myself.
>>46792 It always does as soon as something interesting happens.
Welche der natto-K(r)ampfpanzer werden wohl die besten taktischen Ergebnisse gegen den ewigen R*ssen liefern? Challenger abseits etwaiger Brücken oder wird der Rusenaff seine Artillerieuberlegenheit nutzen um die Träume gewisser Propagandisten von ebischen Panzerduellen zugunsten der NATO Ugraine im Ansatz zu ersticken? Wie lange dauert es wohl noch bis sich auf Bidup's Geheiß eine Legion Condom bildet, ausgerüstet mit gespendeten Eurokikern/F-16/Gripen/F-35 inklusive "freiwilliger" Piloten und Ingenieure? I want a Buchanka.
>>46793 but wher else i discus slav slapfest???
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>>46747 >The latter portion of that (sugar which is an energy-dense molecule) is not common knowledge
Russia declares that if America supplies depleted uranium rounds with the Abrams (the Abrams primary munitions), they will consider that as use of nuclear munitions by Ukraine opening up the possibility of nuclear strikes.
Tank news >Challenger 2 delivery at end of March >German Leopard 2 in "about three months" >14 Polish Leopard 2 'within a few weeks' >Spanish still 'formulating plans' to recommission stored Leopard 2 for Ukraine >Abrams will not be available for "spring offensive" Source: Some FSB account on Twitter. Looks like NATO is hoping to make the big push in the summer. Russia needs to get its shit together before then. That's assuming Ukraine is willing to wait to build up a large offensive strength. If they get excited and use MBTs as soon as available they will squander the force and achieve little. Then Zelensky will just demand more gibs.
>>46802 thats so fucking lame, lol. Especially when you know Russia is already using that shit.
>>46804 >>46802 Well it's kind of a smart declaration. It's basically saying fine you can give them the tanks but no shells or we will take it as an escalation. >>46803 >Russia needs to get its shit together before then. All Russia really needs to do is say "Effective immediately, any further lethal aid to Ukraine will be considered the same as direct involvement by the militaries of those countries giving aid." They can even point to that gaffe(?) by the German defense minister as justification for this change in policy.
>>46663 >Didn't they just sell over 200 fucking Lynx IFVs to Hungary a year or so ago AND built them 2 factories for both IFV and ammunition production? No, the plan is that about a third of the vehicles will be produced in Germany, and the first batch of workers for the factory (most likely including engineers and other higher ups) will be trained on those, and then finish building the rest of the vehicles for the contract at the Hungarian factory. So in theory the factory was already opened, but in practice there are only one or two Lynxes for show, and it will take at least a bit of time before they even finish the ones that will be made in Germany. As for the ammo plant, I have no idea, but considering that the small arms factory that was already opened years ago still can't produce a single gun on its own and is only used to slap together parts imported from CZ, I'd rather not hold my breath. It really does look like that the whole Hungarian rearmament program is just an excuse to steal more of my taxes.
>>46806 oh yeah, its undoubtedly smart on their behalf calling depleted uranium nuclear weapons is a genius move i admit. Its just really fucking lame lol. Its like when you are beating a kid at a game in middle school and they change the rules half way through.
>>46789 Because it was u at that point faggot.
>>46809 >Its just really fucking lame lol. Its like when you are beating a kid at a game in middle school and they change the rules half way through Welcome to NATO-Russia relations since the 90s.
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>>46783 >relations can be normalized, as hard as that might seem. I mean sure, once this conflict is no longer a living memory, i.e. when everyone alive today is dead. This conflict generates the sort of butthurt that lasts a lifetime, (((they))) still get a raging hardon every time a senile old former nazi gets dragged to court - it's going to be a repeat of that. Only time will tell. >their demographics have been fucked since before the war. Yeah, but now they are megafucked, pic related. It's not even the direct combat losses so much as accelerated emigration and low birthrates driving nails into that coffin.
>>46786 >can we discuss Ukraine war here Happy to oblige but are there happenings to discuss? gotta fill the void somehow :'(
>>46790 and this is a torpedo
>>46819 >Doesn't deny being a fed. >Implying all NWO forces aren't compromised/blackmailed with evidence of formally illegal actions.
>>46820 I should qualify that by saying 'formal NWO forces.'
>>46820 >Doesn't deny being a fed. >implying >>46819 was >>46736 >>46822 >aid package >not even to buy weapons >>46794 >as soon as something interesting happens. >doesn't mention what it is. The goddamn fucking state of this place.
>>46825 Oy vey~
>>46692 That's what I was thinking. Watching the elites try to do a 180 on the colonialism narrative will be hilarious, assuming anon is correct. >>46700 You're correct, and there's nothing wrong with extrapolating from observations. That's not to say sources can't be useful for shoring up points, but this whole thing of (((citation needed))) is a form of obstructionism, designed to make thought more arduous via excessive, tedious demands for sourcing. It also helps disseminate propaganda, since the supposed "reliable sources" are often ZOG-controlled content. >>46775 >but, beyond that, i don't see how this war is meant, outside of russia's annexation of several of her republic memberstates to be existential to ukraine's existence. It's not existential to Ukraine, only to its corrupt government. The real existential threat is GAE/NATO reducing them to debt slavery and then destroying them through faggotry/race-mixing. The Ukrainian people/culture have their best chance at survival under Russian domination. Really this is about GAE/NATO vs Russia/BRICS, ie unipolar vs multipolar world order.
>>46838 >That's what I was thinking. Watching the elites try to do a 180 on the colonialism narrative will be hilarious, assuming anon is correct. (((They))) won't do that, instead they'll merge the 'European Union' with the 'African Union' allowing (((them))) to both end the White sub-species through race-mixing (e.g. even now they constantly promote BMXWF) and acquire 'just' claim on African resources. The Marrakesh declaration already provides the ground work.
>>46840 The CCP/PRC is the only major obstacle to this aside from niggers and Islam.
forgot to mention, Big Serge dropped another post, and it's a lucid analysis of the situation in and around Bakhmut. Definitely worth the read, and provides a solid rationale to Trust The Plan. >>46840 >>46841 this makes alot of sense. China did well to extend their Belt & Road initiative into the Dark Continent when they did.
>>46826 This is a fed
>>46792 >>46794 >see >>46782 Happens everytime, and for the obvious reasons. At least it's pure-diversity tier quality.
>>46842 >China did well to extend their Belt & Road initiative into the Dark Continent when they did. They did. And, I imagine, it was entirely planned. These men build 150 year forecast plans. Same with their economic & war games as well.
>>46840 The evidence does seem to be on your side Strelok. At the very least the globalist kikes mean to breed Whites out of existence, regardless of whatever else evil they have planned for the world. And the niggerXWhite propaganda from these pigs started decades ago now.
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>>46818 >Happy to oblige but are there happenings to discuss? Russian attack on Ugledar is the most recent action that's worth mentioning. The city itself is also a fortress and there seems to be a company of UAF soldiers per 1km defending it ,so it's a tough nut to crack.
>>46838 >asking for evidence or substantiating your claims is now Jewish what the fuck happened to you people holy shit, did someone share this site on cuckchan? instead of justifying your schizo shit you're just going to say that all evidence to the contrary is wrong? fuck every one of you.
>>46849 Do we know those were Pantsir/HIMARS?
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>Soledar direction >Situation as of 17.00 January 27, 2023 >In the Soledar sector, the assault detachments of the PMC "Wagner" continue to push through the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the direction of Blagodatny. The Armed Forces of Ukraine are currently holding the village thanks to the previously redeployed reserves. >In addition, Russian troops are gradually moving towards Razdolovka and Nikolaevka with the support of artillerymen of the RF Armed Forces. And in the area of Disputed, one of the firing positions of the 10th Guards Rifle Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was cleared. >In the northeast of Bakhmut, fighting continues on the southeastern outskirts of Paraskovievka near the Bakhmutka River, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine have transferred reserves for a counteroffensive. >In addition, Russian soldiers have entrenched themselves in the northern part of Krasnaya Gora and are pushing through the defensive fortifications of Ukrainian formations in the village from the north and east. >In Bakhmut, the “Wagnerites” are fighting in the industrial zone in the areas of Zabakhmutovka, the Meat Processing Plant, the Trubny Stakes reservoir, as well as in the southern quarters of the city from the Experimental side. >In the south-east, Russian units pushed through the defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the north and west of Kleshcheevka and advanced in the directions of Krasnoe (Ivanovsky) and Stupochka. The command of the 113th arr. TRO withdrew separate formations to Chasov Yar because of the losses incurred. >Consolidated detachments of the 3rd brigade and 24th brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are actively using small-sized UAVs for target designation of artillery, and the Bayraktar UAV operated from the airfield in Dnepropetrovsk near Bakhmut. >Over the past day in Bakhmut and its environs, only confirmed losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to 101 killed. >To strengthen the grouping of troops in the direction of Druzhkovka, a large echelon with military equipment arrived. According to preliminary data, more than 150 units of various equipment have been unloaded, some of which will be sent to Bakhmut.
>>46851 Not with 100% certainty. The missiles do seem to match the pattern of HIMARS usage by UAF, 2-3 missiles per salvo, 2-3 between salvos As for Pantsir, impossible to know without finding a booster. Though, Pantsirs are probably the most capable SHORAD on the front right now.
>>46853 Is there any estimate as to how many HIMARS have been destroyed? And why is the UAF seemingly so incompetent? I understand that all these sources are pro-Rus but to not even see any kind of advancement or possible counterattack (except for kneejerk counter strikes that get smacked down instantly) makes me question how shitty their military is, only barely surviving with all the new toys the west is handing out.
>>46854 To clarify, what are their tactics as opposed to Russia's?
>>46850 Maybe consider the part where you demanded proofs from a speculation (an educated guess of "If-X then-Y"), and then when asked which part you disagreed with as a conversation starter to narrow down your broad and ignorable objection, you went full autistic spazz instead of elaborating? Anon isn't required to submit an entire research paper dialing in any and every possible objection just so you can go "haha you wasted hours on that, now I won't read it anyways."
>>46854 I think I've seen only one being filmed while getting destroyed, but there were some claims that was loading vehicle for HIMARS and not HIMARS itself. Also,there video of MI-28 or KA-52 slapping something with ATGM, Russians claimed it was HIMARS but no certain conformation. Other than that I think Russians claim 4-5 destroyed. >>46855 >To clarify, what are their tactics as opposed to Russia's? Bite down the pillow and hope Russia gets bored and fuck off? Maybe they're planning human wave tactics in the future and hope to re enact Kharkov offensive only down towards Zaporozhie. For that they need a lot of hardware, as their own armor is basically extinct. That's why there such a big push lately to supply UAF with MBT.
>>46856 It's not "if x then y", it's "if apples then oranges", making wild speculations with entire fucking canyons of missing logic between them. I didn't ask for proofs of everything, I asked for proof of anything, as in one single thing he said. Instead he's now shat up this thread and others with schizo ramblings about muh ZOG/EUSSR/NATO/UN retardation. Cafe has more than its fair share of schizos, why anons keep replying to them is beyond me. >Anon isn't required to submit an entire research paper dialing in any and every possible objection just so you can go "haha you wasted hours on that, now I won't read it anyways." I asked for one (1) piece of backing evidence and he gave none. I'd have been content with even a fucking Daily Stormer opinion piece.
>>46854 I believe it's primarily an issue with top-down tactics. Both sides have a top down structure where you have to ask permission to ask permission to ask permission to wipe your ass, but Ukraine's is a more "caste-like" model so failure to follow the chain of command results in getting shot instead of getting a slap on the wrist for success. Ukrainians are told to not leave their trenches and prevent a Russian advance, then when they do counterattack it's in formalized "big pushes" being lead by the head honcho combining brigades and doing everything at once. Russia's military is a little more decentralized in that they get a local order to advance or defend and they get a broad "you can be pushed back/you can extend about this much" with initiative being punishable unless you get good results. Combine this with Ukraine actually lacking armor and you have a situation where Ukrainian soldiers get killed by weapons they never see far more often than in firefights where they can shoot back, making offensives difficult. In RTS terms imagine your enemy can see you, is attacking you, and you know their general direction, but you can't see them on the map and you only have infantry units to fight mechanized units and artillery with a few artillery pieces in the back who need constant updates to accurately track enemy positions.
>>46858 So which parts did you disagree with? >Jewspammer Do people ever like rapefugees? That seems to be a third party.
>>46858 >>46860 You all shut the fuck up and quit taking this thread even more off-topic and filling it with your retarded ramblings about sources from earlier on.
>>46849 That vid is quite funny, although I would be demoralized if I saw that our supposed superweapon can be cockblocked by what seems to be a rather common enemy AA system. >>46852 So it's an average day where a whole lot of people died, but the map barely changed colours.
Does anyone have a good indication of what Russia's war aims are? I assume they want to secure their 'new territories' as a buffer zone but how would they go about getting a peace deal? If the original push for Kiev had worked it would've presented USA/NATO with a fait accompli and peace would be easy, but now the situation has changed into a long grind. Unless Russia pulls off a blitzkrieg from Belarus it's hard to see an end to the slow attrition of European resources and Ukrainian lives. This might be where US and Russian war aims intersect. US/NATO has the ludicrous ambition of retaking Crimea which seems like a fast track to WWIII: This Time it's Nuclear. The sanctions are hurting Europe far worse than Russia and the USA is fine with that so how is NATO expecting to get a peace deal? Or is this to be another Afghanistan with decades of useless bloodshed followed by an humiliating withdrawal? Right now it looks like this whole thing is 'Abram slaying half the seed of Europe, one by one' as Owen put it. I'm sure the WEF is delighted.
>>46864 >so how is NATO expecting to get a peace deal Has NATO done literally anything in the past year to suggest they would want a peace deal?
>>46864 >Does anyone have a good indication of what Russia's war aims are? I assume they want to secure their 'new territories' as a buffer zone but how would they go about getting a peace deal? If the original push for Kiev had worked it would've presented USA/NATO with a fait accompli and peace would be easy, but now the situation has changed into a long grind. I think we might see the same situation that was between 2014 and 2022, just on a much larger scale, and with open Russian involvement. That is, they will be selling each other on a daily basis, but neither side will do anything big. >how is NATO expecting to get a peace deal? Natto is a club for Cold War fossils, with some input from hapless ministers who are more interested in the next election than in any long term plans. And the Cold War was a strange period indeed, a time when small proxy wars and coups were how two superpowers fought each other for decades. If the situation hurts the other side, then everything is all right, because bleeding out the other over decades is how you win. Never sweat over small details such as the lives of tens of millions of people in some faraway place.
>>46862 >That vid is quite funny, although I would be demoralized if I saw that our supposed superweapon can be cockblocked by what seems to be a rather common enemy AA system. Russians seems to have adapted to HIMARS, so intercept rate is much higher than in the beginning . Still, Pantsirs can't cover everything to some salvos do get through, especially if you saturate the attack with u guided grad rockets. >So it's an average day where a whole lot of people died, but the map barely changed colours. Yup
>>46856 lol yea, really. as I said, sourcing has its uses, but there's no mistaking pilpul when you see it. >>46864 the grind will continue, which will serve the interests of both sides. US/NATO is hoping to wear down both Russia & Ukraine so they can grab resources in the region. Of course, if Russia is the one that ends up with those resources and strategic control of territory, they'll be rather screwed, so they have to keep doubling down on muh slava ukraini crusade.
>>46850 >asking for evidence or substantiating your claims is now Jewish That's been the pinko party line for literally a hundred years by now innit?
>>46850 I don't know, it seems like in the past year the small number of streloks that post here were slowly replaced by histrionic morons. I don't even try to argue with anyone here anymore.
>>46877 probably has something to do with the webring not having an active /pol/ so they choose the next best thing, which is /k/. zzz has a /pol/ but it's dead and littered with schizo threads.
>>46877 >the past year In the past week or two there's been a change beyond the more gradual ones.
>>46883 usually just one or two fags that make a lot of noise, they'll eventually get banned or get bored and leave
>>46880 >webring lol Nah, cafe died. Cafemin's disinterest finally killed the other big board and the overt trucking in of federale informants/collaborators discord circlejerks have finally killed almost all traces of guest decorum since the discordfags are the retards you're complaining about and the (wanted or otherwise as we might be) tourists here for news have gradually lost all interest in behaving on the site since the quality has dropped (In mature threads, be mature, in retarded threads, be retarded!). I suspect the actual native inhabitants of /k/, some of the spergs notwithstanding, are the people who just solemnly post news and footage and maybe make a post about those posts and the board would be a sensible 1-3PPD if it was just an obscure /k/ altchan and wasn't being signal boosted by cafe to get accosted by all us dweebs.
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>>46886 zzz has a /k/ and post quality there remains fairly decent, we could always move there
>>46887 lole
>>46887 >Demented pic Whenever the truth comes out the kikes and their bots/slaves always attack the messenger and attempt to split consensus. I know for a fact there are shills on this board now, just a friendly FYI. >>46891 At the very least, I guess the regimes in Croatia and France don't want to be nuked, unlike Germany and Poland.
glowniggery consensus-cracking doesn't work for a board like /k/ imo. let the shit really hit the fan and see how things go here.
Conflicting reports on Vuhledar. Ukrainans claim they've recaptured Dacha, while Russians claim they're still attacking Vuhledar. Both can be true, Dacha could have been recaptured and Russians still could attack Vuhledar from other direction, tough loss of Dacha significantly complicates the assault. Waiting for Rybar report.
>>46907 intredasting. thanks for the early update strelok.
>>46896 I am still appalled at how easily clover's k fell. >>46880 whats zzz ? can you drop the URL for it ? I just want a place like my 2008 /k/ >>46886 Yeah well, something a Serb once told me, "all occupiers have to go back home someday" and thats what i think and hope will happen to the interwebs. This senseless 6th gen warfare story will be laid to rest, and we'll get to be as retarded and creative as we once were.
>>46910 >I am still appalled at how easily clover's k fell. A) it wasn't """easy""". The globohomo had to use actual working assests, unlike the pure diversity being used here. B) in the end they had to actually usurp the site ownership itself (aka j00t), and move him on after he was corrupted. As everyone knows kikes are incredibly stingy and I'm sure they hated having to shell out actual Jewgold to destroy cuckchan. But as long as the founders of Anoncafe remain true and safe, then so will /k/ and all the rest of the boards here. Simple as.
>>46911 I might add, I (and other Streloks) personally keep full archives of /k/ current pretty much daily. If the same shit happens here by some means, I'll publish the entire thing and it can be restored from there wherever.
>>46912 please share the /k/ radio playlist. If you have actual songs or whatever, please do share it.
>>46913 I'd be only too happy to accomodate you Strelok, however there doesn't seem to be a '/k/ radio playlist' thread (>>46918). If you know that what you're looking for is inside one of these specifically, then I'll share that one.
>>46910 weird how so many anons still don't know about zzz https://zzzchan.xyz/k/catalog.html
>>46920 >THIS BOARD SUPPORTS THE HISTORICAL NATION OF UKRAINE, SO THAT HEART OF CHERNOBYL WILL NEVER COME TO FRUITION. СЛАВА УКРАЇНІ! lol. lmao even
>>46920 >implying Anons know, but webring niggers have gotten so tribal that even mentioning other sites on what is supposed to be a cooperative group will cause an immediate shitfest. Also having >>46923 locked and stickied at the top of the board is just going to guarantee a continuation of the faggotry here regardless if it was in jest or not.
>>46925 it's obvious he means it in a context that he'll cheer on ukraine as they march to their grave so stalker jew 2 never comes out
>>46926 >it's obvious That doesn't matter. I don't think you understand the kind of retarded tribal niggers I'm talking about, even if they know something is a joke they'll run with it and shit whole sites up out of spite.
>>46925 It's been pretty quiet on that front since Mr. Altmeyer got doxxed.
>>46928 that was a glorious day
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>>46931 >for about a year zzz was constantly being harassed by 8cake.blacked.moe.gov >some fag named Eden constantly derailing threads, blackpill, boogeymen, the whole nine yards >would even spill over into cytubes, movie nights, tv nights, gamenights, etc. >some fag named GourmetNewell was also stirring shit up >a while back some fag that got into 8moe's mod team leaked a ton of shit >among these leaks was the revelation that Eden was a member of 8moe's mods >and that he was also GourmetNewell >and that the mods of 8moe are incredibly autistic and turbofags (one of them making it a habit to get shitfaced drunk and talk about literally fucking all the other mods) >Eden/GourmetNewell gets doxxed, primarily through an Amazog review he posted of a Cirno plush with his real name and address >the fucker's real name is actually Eden, they find where he lives in Chicongo and his employer >attacks from 8moe suddenly stop, peace restored among zzz and that is the ballad of eden, horribly paraphrased and probably missing a lot but that's the general idea https://archive.is/rc30h
>>46932 nta, but thanks for the 411 Strelok. That's incredibly gratifying to hear, given how blacked.gov shat up the entirety of the webring, including my two primary sites. I don't even have anything against the poor victims users of the site, but the Admin of the place is complete shit.
>some fag named Eden constantly derailing threads, blackpill, boogeymen, the whole nine yards That was literally all seagull though
>>46932 >for about a year zzz was constantly being harassed It started around when it became clear that /geimu/ wasn't getting back on it's feet so well over 2 years of what amounts to almost daily manually spamming some obscure imageboards on the ass end of the internets. Most of the shitstirring disappeared virtually overnight after he got doxxed.
>>46939 >>46932 >like half of the tribal shit was literally Eden It's amazing the amount of effort fags put into petty squabbles. I already knew Eden was a tremendous cunt (hence his ded bort) but this is ridiculous.
OK so there are posts on zzz saying the BO on here is apparently a three letter guy ? what the fuck is up with that ? Is this place just controlled op ? like pushing people out of 4chan to here for whatever reason they have. I thought fr*n chan was the glowpot they were directly most of their fags too ??
>>46943 the old BO was a literal fed, but he got booted right after he admitted it.
>>46854 10:1 artillery superiority. Apart from large and coordinated mechanized assaults and reconnaissance raids by special forces, Ukrainian troops are effectively suppressed by constant bombardment throughout the whole front. It's why they're back to being on the back foot even after a major victory. Russia at this point in time also has more armor to go around, and they're supply lines aren't hit every day like Ukraine's, which doesn't have enough air defense as is. There is not much Ukraine can do, and there's no effective solution to Ukraine's predicament except begging for more equipment.
>>46910 >"all occupiers have to go back home someday" Unless the occupiers assimilate and >and we'll get to be as retarded and creative as we once were. Nah, the 'wild west' is over, the internet is too useful now days to be ignored or left alone by the powers that be. It used to be that you had to have some tech savy and an IQ above room temperature (in F) to participate online but that filter is gone now. >>46932 >some fag named >on anonymous board >named And there's yer problem. >gets doxxed, primarily through an Amazog review he posted of a Cirno plush pottery for anime degenerates >with his real name and address How? No way amazon would disclose it publicly, if he put his own address in the review that makes a really special sort of retard. >>46943 >BO on here is apparently a three letter guy ? Anything concrete to raise suspicions or the prophylactic guilty until proven innocent? Then again everyone is a three letter guy here FAG
>>46946 >Anything concrete to raise suspicions He posted on Smug about making stickers to "advertise" the board, and of all the banners he could have made a sticker from, he picked one making fun of Muhammad being a childfucker. He solicited anons to email him with their mailing address so he could send them to anyone who wanted some. He was repeatedly told to fuck off and I don't know if anyone actually tried to take him up on it. We know it was the same guy because he used the same email address for that as some posts he made as BO. Later when he was BO of /k/ he specifically claimed to work for a 3-letter agency but insisted his BOship was personal and unaffiliated with his employer. Then when he was having his meltdown that eventually led to him getting booted, he started claiming the opposite. I don't actually believe his claim since he was sperging out, but it doesn't really matter. Either he's an unstable, harmful sperg, or he's an unstable, harmful sperg that glows in the dark.
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Off topic but >Wagner assault units report they have taken Blagodatnoe completely, southwest of Soledar.
Can you niggerfaggots use the off-topic or meta thread for off-topic instead of shitting up this one like attention whores?
>>46948 You're cool since it's Ukraine related.
>>46948 >Off topic but Nice one. So they effectively managed to cut off the most direct route between Bakhmut and Soledar, although I imagine it wasn't used that much to begin with due to constant artillery barrages. I wonder if they can use this for a push toward both north and south, that could finally collapse the defences between the two towns, allowing them to finally encircle them. Of course, even that would barely change anything, I mean, fuck, there is less than 10km between Soledar and Bakhmut, I literally walk more when I want to relax my mind a bit, and these fuckers are dying in droves for so little ground.
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>>46951 Slowly but surely the noose is tightening, it will become increasingly difficult to supply Bakhmut garrison , so UAF will either have to do a counter offensive in that area or abandon it. Unless we get cockblocked and suddenly they make peace. >although I imagine it wasn't used that much to begin with due to constant artillery barrages That area is so fucked from constant artillery shelling its not even funny, I imagine ameliorating land there will be night impossible after the war. >and these fuckers are dying in droves for so little ground. Grim indeed. but /k/ube is pleased
>>46946 >if he put his own address in the review that makes a really special sort of retard. he posted a picture of it along with the package it came in, with his full name and address clearly visible
>>46954 Fuck off.
>>46956 Fuck off.
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>This thread Well at least it's always fun to read intersite drama although having lived and been direct witness of IRC feuds i can say there's very few neutral or good sites, Zzz definitely not being one of them and Cafe owners very rarely commenting on anything not meta or server stuff. Also, old news but: U.S. Deems Russia's Wagner Group a "Transnational Criminal Organization" Dirlewanger's Brigade part II Extreme Catering Boogaloo according to the creators of Blackwater
>>46953 >ameliorating land there will be night impossible after the war It'll be like France after WWI. They won't be able to plough a field without bringing up bones and shrapnel. >>46958 >U.S. Deems Russia's Wagner Group a "Transnational Criminal Organization" USA gov should love Wagner now they're trans something.
>>46958 >U.S. Deems Russia's Wagner Group a "Transnational Criminal Organization" What exactly does this achieve? The entire west has already gone full "rushya poopy bad bad" mode and I doubt any nation outside of the west that hasn't already crossed their arms and made a frowny face is going to give much of a fuck when the US points and goes "AAAAWWWWWWWWW". It really is funny how closely geopolitics resembles playground cliques nowadays. Maybe that's how it always was?
>>46953 >pic That looks like shit.
>>46953 >>46959 maybe there will be a war memorial at Bakhmut one day, it would be cool to visit. >>46961 >What exactly does this achieve? updoots and brownie points >It really is funny how closely geopolitics resembles playground cliques nowadays. Maybe that's how it always was? lol pretty much. the whole Senkaku Islands dispute is similar. >>46963 eh, I don't go for the face, but it's a decent sketch.
>>46953 Very nice OC. It's still important she be cute, even when in punished mode. Keep up the good work Strelok!
>>46958 >Dirlewanger's Brigade part II Extreme Catering Boogaloo Heh, they have been serving up some tasty dishes of late. It's remarkable that a PMC can have such an effective 'tip of the spear' affect on this conflict. Russia is winning on the cheap!
>>46959 >USA gov should love Wagner now they're trans something. This. I'm sure they will have. pride parade for them one day, complete with 10'000 transitioned elementary-school boys girls.
>>46953 I think I prefer Buhanka-chan as a non-violent medic than a hardened warrior, since it matches her irl role better. Azov-chan was kinda cool too when she was alive. Nice art btw.
>>46963 Lol,true. I never said I was good at this shit. >>46966 Tried, but stylized faces are my weak side. >>46964 >maybe there will be a war memorial at Bakhmut one day, it would be cool to visit. As long it's not some modern art interpretationary bullshit ,I'd be wanting to see it. >>46970 I feel like Azov Chan was a wasted opportunity. They made her look like a crackwhore, do I never digged the design.
>>46972 I liked it, it is well done for a quick sketch. The face is actually well done too, just not in the style people prefer it but it shows the jaded comfort a soldier usually emotes. >They made her look like a crackwhore Wasn't that the joke, neo-nazis being practically what the old NatSocs claimed to be an undesirable/"lost" man?
>>46974 >just not in the style people prefer Youre right, I may have added a little bit too much grimdark. Thought it'd be harder to make that emotion in super stylized original style . Was having an idea to do one sketch per new thread commemorating most important event that transpired during the said thread, like the one in this OP, except anons here would suggest what to draw. But then I decided against it. >Wasn't that the joke I don't know, I've long since stopped trying to figure out if something is legit or someone is merely pretending to be retarded on imageboards. Ya' never know.
>>46976 >But then I decided against it. Waitwat? No are you kidding Strelok? OC is king on imageboards. Always has been, always will be. Definitely proceed with this plan Anon.
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>>46978 >controls one of the world's most powerful militaries and could obliterate any country he feels like with the world's largest nuclear arsenal >LOL HE SMALL HAHA PUTIN BTFO falls under the same category of saying hitler only had one testicle and a micropenis, if you can't attack the man with real arguments, just use ad hominems and talk shit about his appearance
>>46978 >>46980 Many actors do the same, there's literally nothing wrong with this.
>>46977 Eh, we'll see anon. Anyway in other news. >Shoigu may submit proposals to Putin in the very near future to change the Russian military doctrine. >As reported, in the very near future, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will officially announce that Moscow will expand and change the list of reasons why the country can use tactical nuclear weapons. >"We are talking about the fact that the Russian Federation will be able to use nuclear weapons not only in the case of a "threat to the existence of the state" as a result of an enemy attack to the country. In particular, we may be talking about the fact that Russia will have the right to a tactical nuclear strike even if the enemy's attack does not threaten the existence of the state, but was carried out either on an object of critical infrastructure, or on a state agency, or its result was great human casualties."
>Avoiding a long war: US policy and the trajectory of the Russia-Ukraine conflict >warning this fi
>>46986 >warning this file is directly off of RAND's website*
>>46961 >What exactly does this achieve? In the interim nothing. In the long run it bars ex-Wagner from joining the French Foreign Legion (since they use American databases of international criminals), and assuming the Americans are still relevant in a decade they can hold it over neutral nations' heads with threats of invasion for hosting international criminals.
>>46967 It's less about Wagner being efficient/effective and more about Russian commanders having to ask permission to take a shit while Wagner rewards independent action. The rest of the Russian military should be as effective as Wagner is rather than Wagner being more effective. Then again Ukraine suffers from the same issues so it multiplies how effective Wagner seems when their enemies can't muster a proper counter-attack without asking permission for permission to ask the guy who gets permission from Zelensky.
>>46991 Also, I'm not sure how much it is propaganda, but apparently Wagner cares significantly more about results than about losses.
>>46990 >had a response to this typed up >fucking GPU is on the fritz lately and blanked out before I could submit it god dammit. What are the chances of me finding a worthwhile GPU that is compatible with an 8+ year old motherboard? Anyway: So it achieves nothing, Russians were already highly unlikely to join the FFL before the war and after it's over the kind of countries that would be hiring ex-Wagner mercs are probably going to be the kind of countries that don't give a shit about weimerica's waning influence.
>>46992 >but apparently Wagner cares significantly more about results than about losses That just sounds like classic Russian battle tactics to me, the only people that have historically beat Russians in the "throw poor people and prisoners at the enemy until the enemy is dead" department are the chinks.
>>46994 >What are the chances of me finding a worthwhile GPU that is compatible with an 8+ year old motherboard? Pretty likely IMO. Just craigslist a GT430 or something similar Strelok?
>>46986 Taking a gander at it it's nothing new, a lot of the same old kool aid drinking and fluff. >the longer the war goes on the worse it'll be for the west and the greater the chance for escalation >absolute victory over Russia is a pipe dream >negotiated peace in the short term is improbable >Russia is unlikely to sign any armistice or peace deal anyway as they believe, rightfully, that western sanctions will continue >"America always abandons its friends and its best [proxies]. It will happen sooner or later this time too." (pg 18) >the west needs to commit to a routine/reliable aid plan for Ukriane, not just throwing things at it semi-randomly I can't see any reason as to why this was made.
>>46997 >I can't see any reason as to why this was made. On the contrary, no less than RAND has just declared that the US has lost the biggest war of our time, and must soon surrender or be utterly destroyed by the Chinese in the future. Pretty big deal you ask me, given it's source. When RAND speaks people listen.
>>46999 >We split the world apart, and all we got is this T-shirt RAND report
>>46994 >compatibility PCIe is backwards compatible by design, your motherboard shouldn't reject a new GPU from this or the last decade on that unless there are anti-W7 Tier shenanigans in the builtin VESA driver and/or IME/PSP which all new dGPUs have since ~2016, as long as you have the proper drivers and a capable PSU things should werk unless you buy a recent GPU with one of those new power cables that catch fire every now and then. If you don't like botnet but still want to play vidya then I can reccommend most of AMD's pre-GCN 2 lineup, those GPUs served as the basis for AMD's Mantle which then branched off into DX12 and Vulkan in the mud-2010s. Their community maintained official Linux drivers have excellent Vulkan support as a result, for example the HD7970 from 2011 as the oldest Vulkan-capable card known to man has native Vulkan 1.3 support in RADV, is capable of running recent Emus and non-AAA games at full speed and completely rapes its historical competitors when playing early 2010s AAA games through wine+DXVK. The tradeoff is that pre-GCN 1.2 GPUs need an extra kernel parameter in order to load amdgpu instead of radeon as the driver, the latter lacks Vulkan support. AMD's ROCm also offers no support for pre GCN 2 cards which is fucking gay as their Hardware should be excellent for compute, in fact AMD's 2015 Fiji GPUs were among the very first models used for practical Ethereum mining but AMD's Software support was so dogshit Blender or other useful compute-focused applications never had real support forcing everyone into novidya's (((CUDA))) camp and then the GCN 2 with its improved power efficiency came out kikestarting the GPU price Inflation+scarcity of the late 2010s when Chinks bought them in bulk during the 2017 shitcoin bubble. As for the cards HW wise they aren't terribly efficient and tend to run a little hot, it's manageable in GCN 1.0 and 1.2 cards but AMD shit the bed with GCN 1.1, or more specifically the 2015 R9 300 refresh with W I D E memory buses and higher clocks using the same ol' silicon with no attention given to thermals or power consumption, some board partners were also jews and reused existing cooler designs from the R9 200 line which obviously couldn't handle the added stress resulting in a Toaster experience. Performance wise these cards aren't far behind the RX 580 the R9 300s often being faster than their RX 400 successors due to having 512bit VRAM buses and were rarely used for mining due their high power consumption, but their often inadequate cooling has given them notably lower life expectancies than other early GCN cards.
>>46991 >Then again Ukraine suffers from the same issues You'd think the NATO training should start rubbing off by now especially with all the attrition. >>47000 If only that was all, (you) and I also get to pay for all this shit through taxes and inflation un fortunately. >>46994 >What are the chances of me finding a worthwhile GPU that is compatible with an 8+ year old motherboard? As >>47033 said as long as the MOBO has a PCI-E slot just about anything should work (safe to say you don't need a SLI/CrossFire setup with multiple cards). As far as "worthwhile" the CPU/RAM from 8+ yrs ago are more likely to be bottlenecks than even a low-mid previous-gen GPU. Post in kanteen/QTDDTOT the specs and which games you want to play, if you want more specific advice. AMD drivers perpetually suck shit for some reason, NVIDIA is worse bang for the buck (buying new) but generally drama free even on Linux when the HW doesn't shit the bed that is.
>>47004 One thing I learned form going all AMD on my current build is, never again. I'd rather pay more for the same if it means more stability and no random gray/black screen crashing with buzzing sound on my earphones.
>>47003 >unless you buy a recent GPU with one of those new power cables that catch fire every now and then. That's down to user error. If you're incapable of plugging in a power cable its your own fault if your card gets toasted. Every melted 12VHPWR I've seen people post online has had telltale marks on the plastic showing it was unseated by several millimeters when it went. >>47004 >>47005 I bought Nvidia years ago because my AMD drivers were constantly shitting the bed, only for the model I bought (a GTX 970) to immediately have the whole 3.5GB fiasco. When I replaced that one I was back to AMD, mostly because the price-to-performance was way better. But support for ROCm is fucking dreadful compared to CUDA.
I did not expect this much in depth response about the GPU question, thanks guys. >>47006 >Every melted 12VHPWR I've seen people post online has had telltale marks on the plastic showing it was unseated by several millimeters when it went Every time I feel like a tech illiterate retard I hear about this kind of shit. Well I still am one I guess but holy fuck.
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>>47007 In fairness, people are used to 8-pin power connectors for GPUs, and the clip on those has a more decisive click than the 12-pin, while not being as stiff before it clicks. It seems that the typical situation for failure is that the cable appears to be plugged in, and with a light tug seems locked, but it isn't, and while users are organizing the rest of the cable, the tension causes it to work its way further out, while also tugging it to the side and causing bad contact. It's aggravated by the fact that most of the cards place the plug in an awkward spot. Still though, while the design isn't great, it is only when combined with user error that it becomes a hazard.
>>46997 >I can't see any reason as to why this was made. A government-funded think tank is saying that the writing is on the wall for a NATO-aligned loss in Europe and that Washington should work for what's best for Washington rather than Kiev at this point, giving up on the overwhelming prioritization of Ukrainian humanitarian goals. It practically states that the Ukraine will be the world's welfare queen. To summarize the paper in sections: 1. Non-strategic nuclear use is plausible, unlike what most who are against Russia think, because Russia sees the war as over the existence of itself and would be following plans that have already been revealed in case of a war against NATO. If NATO intervenes because of this, the situation likely escalates to strategic nuclear use. If NATO doesn't intervene, the world order is weakened because more non-strategic nuclear use will be normalized in the CSTO-sphere and warmed up to in those sympathetic to this sphere or at the fringes of the NATO-sphere. 2. If Russia has no way out, finds NATO fostering unrest in its borders, or a Russian missile accidentally flies off course into a neighboring NATO state, hot war between NATO and Russia is inevitable. This war would almost certainly be nuclear, and Russia would likely be the one to start the exchange due to its weakened conventional reserve. 3. Only if the Ukraine regained all of its territory, including Crimea, would the international norm for territorial claims be re-established, and this outcome is highly unlikely. If Russia is pushed back to its pre-invasion borders, it still holds Crimea and is in err of norms, weakening them because it shows that they still cannot properly be upheld. If Russia gains any land, the United States will harshly crackdown as a warning to other nations and punishment to Russia. However, this does nothing to fortify the norm for territorial claims. Regardless of how much land Russia takes, even in the unlikely case of them holding all of the Ukraine's coastline with the Black Sea, the Ukraine's economy will recover after a period of painful adjustment. It is most beneficial for the United States for the Ukraine to gain as much territory as possible, but this is not essential for the survival of either state. Additionally, the reconquest of any land, particularly that of the 2014 invasion, will drastically increase the chance of nuclear war and take years to accomplish, particularly due to Russia's defensive fortifications. 4. If the war lasts for years, Russia will not be able to use its force against others due to a preoccupation with the Ukraine. This will greatly weaken Russia and see the NATO-sphere cut off its energy dependence to the state. However, the further weakening of Russia's forces is likely very, very low due to the extent of existing losses, and many of the NATO-sphere will likely maintain energy dependence regardless of the war's length. While the NATO-sphere could also increase their own defense budgets along with this, helping the taxpayer, any state continuing energy dependence will likely do nothing about its defense budget. Prolonged war will likely see the dissolution of the Ukrainian economy, especially if Russian strikes against infrastructure continue. While there is a chance that prolonged war will give the Ukraine more time to take land, the chances of mobilization securing the front in Russia for additional Ukrainian losses exist as well. Further, the global economy will have a slower growth, food scarcity will continue to rise, and any potential actions in other conflicts by the United States or agreements involving Russia are improbable. Finally, the new economy between Russia and China will grow, weakening US global control as Russia becomes the underling of China, the bigger threat to the United States. 5. Full territorial control or the ousting of the wildly popular Zelensky are the only ways that Russia could achieve absolute victory. The former seems to not be Russia's goal any longer, and the latter is unlikely due to the entrenchment of the Ukrainian government with its people. The Ukrainian military is also more capable than ever of harassing any gained territory due to equipment and training given by the NATO-sphere. The Ukraine cannot possible achieve absolute victory either due to the overwhelming force and size of Russia, especially its navy and air force, which have not seen significant losses when compared to the army. Absolute victory for the Ukraine would entail the reconquest of all 2014 territory and the ousting of Putin, but the next leader is possibly no less likely to continue the war. The most likely resolution will be negotiated. 6. An armistice would only stop conventional warfare. Economic and political warfare would still be on the table between Russia and the Ukraine, and they would be far more likely to escalate. Russia's new but internationally unrecognized line of control would likely function similarly to that between East and West Germany, having very little trade across and high militarization. 7. A peace treaty would be ideal, having a strong foundation for continued peace and normalizing relations between the two states through the addressing of shared disagreements, but it's unlikely to address every issue. Any peace treaty between Russia and the Ukraine will likely end somewhere between an armistice and peace treaty, as most do. 8. However, a peace treaty is very unlikely in the near future, but it could be used as a stepping stone to a broader agreement between Russia and the NATO-sphere to prevent future wars. 9. The most important thing is to end the war as soon as possible, especially to prevent nuclear exchange. While it's favorable for the Ukraine to take as much territory as possible, it is better if they did not take anything of strategic importance to Russia, especially 2014 territory, as the risk of escalation would spike. However, it does not matter how much territory Russia takes as long as the Ukraine exists, for its economy can recover. 10 (the rest of the paper). Both sides are too optimistic about their version of the war's outcome. The NATO-sphere should make a detailed and consistent plan of aid to the Ukraine. However, it should make this aid conditional on the grounds of their discussion of peace with Russia. Whether the unfulfillment of this condition should result in the leveling or decreasing of aid is unknown. Additionally, the Ukraine's government must announce its neutrality independently, but the United States and/or NATO-sphere should have a bi-lateral security agreement. To establish this, NATO should be reformed to some extent to limit its open door membership policy.
Did not see any posts about alleged Azeri drone strikes in Iran, targetting their drone manufacturing factories. Is that Iranian lawm mower drone even effective ? its been a while since i saw any videos of them.
I have another video of shooting hohols in trees in Kremenna, but it's over 100mb and don't feel like breaking it up. I wonder if an anonfiles link or similar would be ok? it also has a slav groove with cheesy lyrics. >>46972 >As long it's not some modern art interpretationary bullshit ,I'd be wanting to see it. it won't be if (when) Russia wins. >>46980 another example is calling Napoleon a manlet because he would BTFO everyone in battle.
>>47012 >Did not see any posts about alleged Azeri drone strikes in Iran Damn, was that before or after the embassy attack? Fatal shooting at Azerbaijan Embassy in Iran raises tensions >According to the head of Tehran's Criminal Prosecutor's Office the suspect claimed during the preliminary investigation that his wife went to the embassy in April 2022 and did not return home >According to IRNA, the perpetrator filed a missing persons report with the police in Urmia, West Azerbaijan province, over his missing wife, who was from Baku, in mid-April 2022, but the case was closed after police found out that the woman "had returned to Azerbaijan" >After that, the perpetrator continued his inquiries with Iran's Foreign Ministry and Azerbaijan's Embassy in Tehran >The perpetrator then said that he "decided to go to the embassy this morning with the Kalashnikov rifle I had already prepared" >Azerbaijani Press Agency, citing the CCTV footage and its diplomatic channels stated that this information was completely baseless and added that the attack on the embassy was an act of terrorism Many such cases. Attacker would've fared better too if he had a stock to head butt the third guard, seems that guy pushed him outside and locked the door so props to him, i wouldn't like being barehanded near anyone shooting randomly with an AK let alone wrangle him around angry and still shooting. Outside the attacker continued and shot the embassy's car, with little else to do he then surrendered to the police officers that arrived to see what was the whole racket.
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it's now mandatory to join a military course in collage and higher education.
Russia Militarizing Education To Evocate Soviet Union British Intelligence The Russian government's initiatives to roll out a basic military training programme in schools and universities testifies to the further militarization of all spheres of life in wartime Russia. That's according to an update by British intelligence, posted on Twitter by the country's defense ministry, Ukrinform reports. “In recent weeks, the Russian Ministry of Education has provided more detail on the rollout of the previously announced plan to include basic military training in Russia's secondary school curriculum,” the report says. The module within the“Basics of Life Safety” course will include training with AK series assault rifles and hand grenades, military drill and salutes, and the use of personal protective equipment. “The lessons will become mandatory from 01 September 2023. In addition, in December 2022, the Ministry of Science and Higher Education announced a 'military training basics' programme for university students,” reads the update. The initiatives highlight the“increasingly militarised atmosphere” in wartime Russia, as well as being a (likely deliberate) evocation of the Soviet Union: similar training was mandatory in schools up to 1993. In the previous update by British intelligence, analysts noted that as a result of the attack on the Russian military base in Makiivka (occupied part of Donetsk region) on New Year's Eve, more than 300 servicemen were killed. https://menafn.com/1105491133/Russia-Militarizing-Education-To-Evocate-Soviet-Union-British-Intelligence https://archive.vn/gQLH1
Iran, Russia Link Banking Systems Amid Western Sanction DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran and Russia have connected their interbank communication and transfer systems to help boost trade and financial transactions, a senior Iranian official said on Monday, as both Tehran and Moscow are chafing under Western sanctions. Since the 2018 reimposition of U.S. sanctions on Iran after Washington ditched Tehran's 2015 nuclear deal with world powers, the Islamic Republic has been disconnected from the Belgium-based SWIFT financial messaging service, which is a key international banking access point. Similar limitations have been slapped on some Russian banks since Moscow's invasion of Ukraine last year. "Iranian banks no longer need to use SWIFT ... with Russian banks, which can be for the opening of Letters of Credit and transfers or warranties," Deputy Governor of Iran's Central Bank, Mohsen Karimi, told the semi-official Fars news agency. While Russia's central bank declined to comment on the deal signed on Sunday, Karimi said "about 700 Russian banks and 106 non-Russian banks from 13 different countries will be connected to this system", without elaborating on the names of the foreign banks. Iran's Central Bank chief Mohammad Farzin welcomed the move. "The financial channel between Iran and the world is being repaired," he tweeted. Since the start of the Ukraine war, Tehran and Moscow have acted to forge close bilateral ties as both capitals attempt to build new economic and diplomatic partnerships elsewhere. With deepening economic misery, largely because of U.S. sanctions over Tehran's disputed nuclear work, many Iranians are feeling the pain of galloping inflation and rising joblessness. Inflation has soared to over 50%, the highest level in decades. Youth unemployment remains high with more than 50% of Iranians being pushed below the poverty line, according to reports by Iran's Statistics Centre. Facing their worst legitimacy crisis amid months of anti-government protests sparked by the death in custody of a young woman, Iranian authorities fear economic isolation and lack of economic improvement could lead to more unrest. Iran's top authority, Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, said on Monday that the establishment faced "a tangible welfare and livelihood problem" that could not be cured without economic growth. "In today's world, a country's status is largely related to its economic power ... We need economic growth to maintain our regional and global position," Khamenei said in a televised speech. https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2023-01-30/iran-russia-link-banking-systems-amid-western-sanction https://archive.ph/rQ4uz
>>47011 Impeccable analysis, Strelok. You're clearly a pro. Glad to have you onboard, Skipper!
>>47013 Well, clearly. The oddity is that the controlled, corporate media is now acknowleding it. I predict this trend will rapidly escalate (cf. >>46986, >>47011) until they have the soyim whipped up into a frenzy of Get out of Ukraine NAOOOO!111
>>47020 Dilate
>>47022 Lol. YNBARW.
>>47011 the issue is ukraine is not going to accept anything short of total victory (reclaiming ALL lost territory), which is an impossibility. negotiating peace would be seen as a betrayal of the people and the 100k dead hohols. riots would break and jewlenskyy would be ousted, similar to what happened in Armenia after their government cucked out to the Azeris.
>>47023 At least I'll never be a passive aggressive sagenigger bitch.
>>47024 Looks like maybe memelensku should've told Boris to fuck off.
>>47024 >the issue is ukraine is not going to accept anything short of total victory (reclaiming ALL lost territory), which is an impossibility. It certainly is. And the rat jew is doomed to be strung up from a pole anyway, regardless. The report is simply to make it plain to the intoxicants running Greater Jerusalem, that they better pull out now. I personally hope they don't tbh, and they will deserve everything coming to them in spades. >>47025 Pure diversity. Two demerits and report to your superiors for more training, nigger.
>>47020 I appreciate it, but all I did was summarize points. >>47021 The subtext of the paper is that Russia is a little fish that will fuse to China and bring Iran with it if left in the economic oven too long, and the Ukraine is nothing but a strategic asset to mend the global economy, particularly food due to global fertilizer and local grain shortages. When mentioning possible other conflicts that the United States would be unable to address if the war continued, China is the center of conversation. It seems as if analysts were caught off guard by this war happening at all and expected China-Taiwan to escalate first. Reports like these are typically tells of what the government wants or expects/expected to happen. The media follows suit. >>47024 The last point, 10, is a summary of the end of the paper from the analysis of what is preventing peace onward. Basically, the United States would put a boot on Zelensky's head through the strict conditional aid and open door reform to prevent him from continuing his idiocy. The ending of the paper addresses that the suggestions outlined are politically impossible to implement at once but assures that they should be strived toward and implemented gradually.
Both sides seem increasingly convinced Russia will launch a big offensive soon . Makes some sense if it happens soon and be relatively limited in scope, spring thaw is not that far off.
>>47028 >but all I did was summarize points. Well, that expertly IMO. Your summary is both accurate, and far, far easier to digest and comprehend. Please continue with your general analysis, I'd far sooner hear from Strelok than the kiked-up media (or even Russian lap-dogs). Cheers.
>>47029 >Spring thaw I hope to dog the Russians have better logistics for that than they did last year, though with most Hohol armor/vehicles gone now I expect natto's slaves won't be in a good position to raid Putlerist convoys provided the Russians stay within SPG range instead of larping as germans in 1940 France.
>>47027 Sagecuck sagecuck where's your buck? Don't you have some dicks to suck?
>>47029 >Spring thaw Doesn't that benefit Ukraine since Russia has a hard time moving artillery in the mud giving an environmental advantage to infantry? The rivers widen making pontoon expansion impossible until Summer.
>>47018 >"Service is optional if you pursue higher education or specific pacifist careers" >Make it so higher education has to go through minimal militia training anyways Heh. So the only way to get out of minimum military training now is what, becoming a priest or working in specific humanitarian/disaster relief occupations?
>>47033 Do not feed the monkies.
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https://nitter.1d4.us/NovichokRossiya/status/1613610015373545472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw https://nitter.1d4.us/Osinttechnical/status/1612862818847526915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw https://nitter.1d4.us/GalileoArms/status/1615043488046882817?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw https://nitter.1d4.us/grahworin/status/1614464906950250497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Remember that vid of the Russian surprising two Ukrainians from behind, and they kept telling him that they are on the same side, so he ended up killing them? Apparently it happened because Wagner members like to cosplay as the enemy, and it's super effective. And they are mercenaries, so they can't be hold responsible for breaking laws that they not subject of. Although it's questionable if all of them do it on purpose, or if they just happen to be wearing looted uniforms because they have nothing better at hand. Not to mention that a military dress without any insignia might not even count as a uniform according to some.
>>47037 >Not to mention that a military dress without any insignia might not even count as a uniform according to some. Isn't the fact that nobody can tell each other apart from uniforms alone the reason they've been wearing armbands the whole time? I think the armband, even more than more proper and official but hard-to-see insignia, would be the main deciding factor in whether it's just making do with what kit they can get, or a deliberate false flag.
>>47037 that's really fucking jewish, but at the same time war crimes aren't real, so if it works then by all means go for it. the only war crime should be killing a man while he's taking a piss/shit, at least let him finish first
>>47031 >I hope to dog the Russians have better logistics for that than they did last year, If they requisitioned like 5 mules from local farmer they should already have better logistics, given how their mode of operation in February-March last year was to carry necessary supplies in pockets and hope for quick war. >larping as germans I mean... we make fun of Germans for having substantial horse drawn logistics in WW2 ,but they made it to Moscow.... I don't know, maybe they were onto something kek. Maybe modern armies should take mulepill. >>47034 >Doesn't that benefit Ukraine since Russia has a hard time moving artillery in the mud giving an environmental advantage to infantry? Yes. That's why they need to move fast and keep it relatively low scale if they're really gonna go on an offensive before summer.
>>47041 >Maybe modern armies should take mulepill. They kind of do. Everyone made fun of the Americans in Afghanistan for using donkeys to pull cargo, but going through the mountains everyone else got bogged down because their engines broke down at high altitudes whereas the army was copying what the locals did. I think something similar happened with all the little Caucus wars.
>>47041 >we make fun of Germans for having substantial horse drawn logistics in WW2 ,but they made it to Moscow.... they made it to the outskirts, and by that point they were completely exhausted, winter was starting to set in, and most of them realized they were fucked. they couldn't have taken it even if they actually made it there
>>47042 >Everyone made fun of the Americans in Afghanistan for using donkeys to pull cargo, I never understood why they got ridiculed for that. If it's stupid but it works, it's not stupid. Tactical donkey, heh,is much more reliable than whatever eldritch horror Boston Dynamics is currently working on. Not to mention an order of magnitude cheaper. You can probably get one from an Afghan farmer for bag of chips and an old Nokia. >>47043 >completely exhausted, winter was starting to set in, and most of them realized they were fucked. they couldn't have taken it even if they actually made it there True, no question there. But it's pretty impressive they dragged their knuckles all the way to Moscow in the first place before their logistics imploded due to effects of Rasputitsa earlier and Soviet rail gauges. Granted, Soviets being comically incompetent in 41-42 and half of 43 helped a lot. Napoleon had 100% horse drawn logistics and took Moscow. Just sayin'. Reject modernity, embrace donkey. yes,I'm being ironic
>>47015 >eardrums left the Solar System Nice clips though
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http://yewtu.be/watch?v=YwQ9ykj8e6I >Russian BMPT Terminator Defends Russian Trenches From Ukrainian Attack In Kreminna The footage at the end was already posted at >>46587 although that could be just about any vehicle with a 30mm autocannon firing.
Seems Ukraine will receive jets soon
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>all these channels putting a gorillion watermarks and WUBWUBWUBWUB dubstep over a 240p video of a tank exploding i hate this timeline
Apparently Murrica targeted a hospital in Luhansk Oblast with a HIMARS two days ago. For what purpose?
>>47015 >100mb Don't download it in 1080p and use handbrake if that doesn't reduce it enough?
>>47015 >but it's over 100mb and don't feel like breaking it up That's what ffmpeg is for. Otherwise just post it somewhere. Catbox, anonfiles, whatever.
>>47049 It sounds like Biden is signaling his handlers haven't discussed that with him (yet) based on a press conference earlier today. They're likely to demand a few tens of thousands of blood sacrifices at Chasiv Yar or Kramatorsk before they'll agree to that.
>>47051 Typically there's a live video somewhere if you're willing to dig deep enough. I mean hell, I prefer dubstep battlefield leaks over no leaks at all. >tfw nobody has filled in liveleak's niche since they got shut down
>>47052 Same reason they've dropped petal mines everywhere, bombed kindergartens, and committed every other unspeakable atrocity on Donetsk over the last almost-decade that Patrick Lancaster has covered.
>>47058 >>tfw nobody has filled in liveleak's niche since they got shut down Far too many niggers & mudshits killing Whites to let it stand. Doesn't fit the narrative, goy.
>>47047 This seems a little too calm, makes me question it a bit if not for how grimy everything is. Maybe it's in an area where they know the Russians have already passed their location and they were ordered to die? It seems those two were smart. I'm glad that the Russians are primarily only targeting war criminals and seem to be actively trying to get conscripts to surrender when possible still.
>>47060 Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?
>>47059 I have no trouble believing they are demon-possesed Strelok, after all Jews. I'm wondering what was the tactical objective here? A HIMARS isn't going to 'just miss' at that range, nor were there any AA involved to force a miss (they delivered the load full-force). So it was intentionally-targeted. But why do it? Was it housing Wagnerites, Orthodox priests, 3 year olds?
>>47061 To be fair, I don't think you're gonna argue much when there's about a dozen enemy combatants around you and your position is overrun. Cool head is alive head. Maybe they saw that video of those two guys not yielding on time and getting wasted, that video was pretty popular and got around on both sides. But they're alive, which is nice, since most of them are conscripted into UAF. Even Wagner takes conscripts as prisoner, while foreigners are usually now processed on the spot since Russian MoD has tendency to exchange foreigners as POW and Wagner don't appreciate that.
>>47065 >while foreigners are usually now processed on the spot G O O D O O D
>>47037 >Wagner members like to cosplay as the enemy It's funny that they basically do just that in in their official Movie 'the best in hell' in order to slip through "yellow team's" defensive line and get the drop on them.
>>47052 >For what purpose? Timeless tradition, jews have bombed hospitals and civilian centers of rest since history was first written. Hell even Mexico in their only missions on WWII (air force) were about the US giving them full intel to bomb military camps and depots which ended up being orphanages and hospitals down in the Philippines. It was so famous locally that the government refused to acknowledge them entirely after the war and the vets lived in relative obscurity as commercial pilots who ended up dying in accidents and "accidents" quite often due to sheer bad luck
Biden has ruled out sending jets. I found it amusing that news reports kept stressing how old Ukraine's current jets are by saying they're from Soviet times, before Ukraine was even an independent country. Then they say how much of a difference F-16s will make, which are 70s-vintage just the same.
>>47070 >Biden has ruled out sending jets. They said the same about the Abrams not so long ago, if they're taking about sending jets then it's just a matter of time until they do.
>>47071 France mentioned sending Rafale jets. They'll probably stall the same way Germany did until America guarantees F-16s by which they mean send the F-16s and Abrams a year from now assuming Ukraine still exists and it isn't just NATO troops moving in for WW3.
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>>47008 >cable appears to be plugged in, and with a light tug seems locked, but it isn't Trash design, plain and simple, no excuses. The locking mechanism/indicator (the little clip) should disengage BEFORE the electrical contact becomes inadequate. Tons of cheap automotive connectors that carry 30-50A DC or more without coming loose or melting with constant vibration and movement. >>47011 >The NATO-sphere should make a detailed and consistent plan of aid to the Ukraine. Good summary, I found the "Mutual Optimism About the Course of the War" section interesting (good read even if you skip rest of the paper). Also >>46721 drowning rats psychology experiment comes to mind. >>47035 >So the only way to get out of minimum military training now is what, becoming a priest Nope. Try again. Pic related. Anyone got that video of Russians airdropping a whole a chapel?
>>47037 Seems unlikely to me. I think the simpler explanation is that they Ukrainians were ill trained and mistook the Russian for one of their own.
>>46999 >>47000 I honestly don't think the US can just disengage at this point. They have made such a to do about the morality of supporting Ukraine and how Russians are sub human orcs lead by Hitler von Satan del Sauron that they can't just go "Mission Accomplished we out bitches!" Something has got to either take it out of the news cycle and off social media or the US has got to actively escalate to try and push for victory or a stalemate at least. Not to even mention the two jokers in the deck.Boomer neocons that really fucking want to fight a war with Russia because they still think this is the 1950s and Zelensky and friends who who do not want to be left to the wolves and will do pretty much anything to keep the monthly tugboat coming in or to deepen US-NATO's involvement.
>>47011 > Only if the Ukraine regained all of its territory, including Crimea, would the international norm for territorial claims be re-established That’s a really weird euphemism for “current desires of USG”. > and see the NATO-sphere cut off its energy dependence to the state. They are buying Russian oil from India, which does not even bother to put any effort in pretending it cares about “sanctions”, so… Exactly how? By suddenly ending Energiewende and thus discrediting its entire Lysenkoist theocracy further, somehow without its power structure falling apart? By collecting enough of cow farts to use as a reliable fuel source? Or by continuing the program of dying out due to “sudden and unexpected” autoimmune syndromes until very little fuel needs to be consumed? >>47075 Eh, all these sermons are at 0% sincerity, which is why propaganda swings easily these days. Yet another “Biggest Thing Evar” suddenly and conveniently emerges, distracts, one day later the previous “Biggest Thing Evar” can be steered wherever desired. It’s a circus show. That’s why they are commonly called clowns now, after all.
>>47073 >Anyone got that video of Russians airdropping a whole a chapel?
>>47075 >Something has got to either take it out of the news cycle Pick your poison, Strelok. The Globohomo has an endless assortment of false flags/gayops to pull out of their grab-bag of evil. As Anglin points out, numerous big-wigs in the present Usurper-in-Chief banana republic regime have already begun the backpedalling dog-and-pony show.
>>47078 That is so cool. The Russians have God's favor in this fight.
>>47078 After raping a hohol, you need to take responsibility.
>>47082 Just because a sheep shagger owns and feeds the sheep doesn't mean he dresses up and marries her.
>>47078 >russia deploys tactical churches The USA will respond by deploying inflatable gender reassignment clinics to Ukraine.
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>>47085 Worse. It's over, Putler stands no chance against a weapon of this magnitude.
>>47085 >aerial drop pod bouncy castle guaranteed to turn little Timmy into Timmantha in 15 minutes or less >we call it the ball-less pit
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>>47086 I love these twatter posts.
>>47089 It's him! Teh Ghost of Kyiv has finally been uncovered!
>>47089 >Mendel What an (((odd))) sounding name.
Apparently those totally-not-real US biolabs the Ruskies blew up early on, were.
>>47092 America admitted that back in May/June during congressional hearings. They just claimed they weren't weapons biolabs. They were just doing gain of function research on migratory birds making viruses more potent. :^)
>>47089 so they are still pretending the ukranian air force remains capable of fighting back?
>>47095 It will, they just need more NATO wunderwaffe
>>47096 surely you're not suggesting NATO wants to send them a couple of F-35 so they push them back to Moscow with super high tech AI driven fighters, right?
>>47097 At this point it seems like a matter of time, the first half of that sentence. I jest, but the escalation has been clear, so who know what will happen in a year's time
>>47095 What remains of Ukrainan airforce is limited to running low and shallow penetrations of front line and bombing . But Russian air force cannot establish air supremacy due to SAM. Apparently S-300s are really fucking good. >>47098 >who know what will happen in a year's time Nukes when?
>>47095 >so they are still pretending I mean it's practically free so why the fuck not. >>47097 >send them a couple of F-35 Realistically how long would jets survive, both sides have sharpened their AA systems to shoot down rockets and artillery shells. Fighter jets by comparison are larger and slower and less maneuverable (in part due to the fragile meatbag on board). Running bombing missions or close support they'd be lucky to last 1 mission, maybe lopping a missile or two from as far away as possible and GTFO ASAP - kinda like they've done with HIMARS.
>>47098 The weapon manufacturers are more than happy to provide the ukies with expensive toys they can't use, that's for sure. However, at the risk of sounding like a scott ritter fanboy, I think the americans will lose interest in ukraine if no progress is made this year. A plea for a deal by late fall early winter, maybe?
>>47100 >(in large part due to the fragile meatbag on board)* FTFY, Strelok. Super drones are on the near-horizen timeline now.
>>47099 The S-300s are a real threat to anything in the sky, but how many of those are still on the field? Not as widespread as portable launchers I bet, like >>47100 said, strike fighters are slow and will get caught by pretty much anything capable of AA fire.
>>47100 >maybe lopping a missile or two from as far away as possible and GTFO ASAP - kinda like they've done with HIMARS. Yes. They are primarily intended as (roughly speaking) close air support. The battle plans most commonly place them under the unbrella of raptors air superiority, with SAM already supressed beforehand. The US Marines would play that a bit differently with these birds, obviously.
>>47097 I'd rather see Ukraine get F-35s than F-16s. If a 16 got shot down then NATO could just bluster that they're obsolete anyway and that it proves the F-35 to be 100% justified and necessary. If a 35 got shot down it'd be a way to shake NATO's suicidal confidence.
>>47105 I don't think anyone actually has confidence in that money laundering scheme with wings.
>>47100 Long enough for the Hohols to run a couple humiliating missions against the Russians before the Vatniks wisen up and launch an all-out assault against them. Assuming they began training pilots a year ago in preparation for the media spin about how they're "considering" sending them when it was a done deal months in advance.
>>47105 I'm pretty sure the Israelis are the only ones who trust F-35s and that's only because they got exclusive rights to the dumbed down (read: proper) version of that money sink.
>>47106 >>47108 Even if they don't truly have confidence in the jet itself, it would still be a blow to NATO's overall confidence. Combat jets are one of the flashiest emblems of military power. If the great, fancy, expensive jet gets shot down, it's going to feel like anything can be lost. If nothing else, how would the public react?
>47100 Here's what will likely happen if Ukraine gets a package of say 8 F-35's >1 immediately bricks itself due to software issues and has to be sent back to the states. >2 more crash during pilot training/familiarization >1 gets shot down by Russian AA, Ukrainians claim it was a friendly fire incident. >remaining are just propaganda use and stored far in the west >plus they realize they can't actually perform the maintenance to keep them running Bonus if one bursts into flames because it was left idling and had no airflow over the radiators. Jackpot if one bursts into flames while evading as aerodynamic heating rendered the radiators impotent.
I think Japan should send a shipment of Ohka to Ukraine with a message that simply reads >"You know what you must do."
>>47103 They still have enough S-300 to to make Russia think twice about committing air assets, so Russia has been limited to use majority of its aviation as missile busses, firing them from long ranges. Their usage of something like Su-34's as frontline bomber was just dumb.
>>47100 I think ironically the F-35 would last longer simply for the fact that it has long range missiles and would be rearguard support, acting more like a flying radar platform then a fighter/bomber/escort.
>>47112 kek >>47115 IIRC one of the many roles piled on the platform was as a replacement for the F111, as well.
>>47103 I thought Russia converted their S-300s to ground attack, although the slow narrative prep about sending jets should give them time to make some more in AA spec. >>47110 I'd like them to send the STOVL F-35. If one cannon shell disables an auxiliary inlet door it can only land on a 5 mile long Arizona runway. >>47112 That's pretty much what US/NATO is doing right now. >>47099 >nukes when? Soon and for the rest of our lives.
>>47099 >>47118 Speaking of nukes, a nice open source gayop would be to make some posts about how Macron should transfer some tactical nukes to the Hohols. Or maybe use this new AI to make him say that he wants to gift them some.
I haven't seen FOABs mentioned a single time in this thread. Does anyone think Putin will use them? I feel like he would start deploying those before bringing the nukes out.
>>47120 Russia only has some 600 "large ordinance" missiles in their arsenal, so they would need a critical target that conventional missiles can't destroy to justify using them. Right now those targets are basically the bridges along the Dniepr and that's about it. They could reasonably give some 50-100 missiles to the war effort if things turned south, but those are largely held back for non-nuclear exchanges with other countries. I hate the sensationalism around it but we are on the escalatory track for WWIII (WWIV according to Russian history), so Russia likely wants to conserve those for striking real targets like Polish airbases or German factory infrastructure.
>>47121 >WWIV according to Russian history Do they count one of the pre-20th century collection of conflicts as a world war?
>>47120 Allegedly he already used one in Syria, can't seem to find a good source on it though. You'd think we'd have heard about it after Afghanistan got MOAB'D.com by dup.
>>47122 Basically, yeah. I don't remember which one it was off the top of my head but they considered one of those a world war.
>>47121 >we are on the escalatory track for WWIII Habeeb it. According to some guy on twitter the Ukrainian ambassador to Germany has asked for nukes. If they get them, like they're getting tanks and jets, then we'll all need to stock up on sunblock. >>47124 The 1812 one against Napoleon?
>>47109 >If the great, fancy, expensive jet gets shot down, it's going to feel like anything can be lost. I would agree if you said aircraft carrier but airplanes are definitely not infallible in the general public's perception. >>47115 The problem the jets need to land sooner than later (fuel) and landing locations will be well known thanks to radar and satellites. (Even if they use VSTOL F-35s) Once it lands it's quite literally a sitting duck and you bet your ass those airports will be high priority targets for missile strikes. I doubt NATO neighbors will let them use their airports to avoid this, that's a highway straight to WW3. HIMARS you can park literally anywhere so they are easier to hide and harder to track with radar, plus logistics are x10 simpler than with a jet and it fires a larger salvo than a jet per mission.
>>47128 >HIMARS you can park literally anywhere so they are easier to hide and harder to track with radar, plus logistics are x10 simpler than with a jet and it fires a larger salvo than a jet per mission. And for (nearly) everything else you have drones. And to think how much my homeland's military budget got wasted on a squadron of aircraft that could be replace by a swarm of drones and a collection of various ground-based missile systems...
>>47129 Force projection. Drones are important, but they lack the force projection of a jet, and the drones that are roughly jet equivalents are typically single-use kamikaze-style pieces. Drones fill an important niche but they are easily countered if you are prepared to handle that niche (think airplanes during WWI or bunkers during the pre mop-up phase of WWII). Jets have counters too obviously, but they have wider force projection and force the enemies to defend otherwise "low-defense" land areas with expensive equipment that would otherwise only need a few sentries, preventing them from keeping those assets on the front lines. Helicopters in this conflict have been shown to be the best of both worlds (drones and jets) for this reason while being cheap to maintain, which is why we need to bring back NCO pilots.
>>47128 >I doubt NATO neighbors will let them use their airports to avoid this On the contrary I think that's exactly what they will do. A Russian strike on a NATO airbase would give USA the excuse to go all in with (other armies') boots on the ground. They know Russia knows this so they hope it will keep the airfields 'safe' and they can have a nice commuter air war like with Japan in 1945. Also the logistics and maintenance of NATO jets will require NATO support and pilots so it's better not to trust them to some hastily trained hohol hotheads in a field. >that's a highway straight to WW3 Isn't that the road we're on? Ukr/NATO have driven past so many exit ramps already and just keep accelerating. I'm not sure what Russia wants to achieve but they see this as an existential war so neither side is backing down anytime soon. The best hope for peace is that Ukraine's armed forces collapse through desertion/lack of supplies. Russia is equally at risk of this (except maybe Wagner) but they have nukes. It's absolutely insane of Zelensky/Biden to believe they can retake Crimea and force a 'color revolution' in Russia but that is their only strategy.
>10.000.000 rubles for a first knocked out Abrams >Plot of land on lake Baikal for first knocked out Leopard Not bad, not bad. >>47119 I'm just missing lend-lease nukes for my clown world bingo and I can wrap this shit up
>>47133 >hohols blow up their own Leopard >claim Lake Baikal and use as staging point for attacking Vladivostok putler on suicide watch
>>47133 I remember that there was some reenactment event or something similar where someone managed to hit a drone with a spear. Now all we need is someone bayonetting one to bridge the gap between that and the mp4.
>>47136 The more things change the more they stay the same
>>47136 I can't wait until the US/NATO Globalhomo empire tries to fight a drone war against the North Sentinel Islanders and end up loosing to them.
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>>47135 Alright, that was pretty fucking funny. >>47136 >war...war never changes
>>47129 So, apparently based Orbán just shitcanned a boatload of military guys. Any insights for us Hungary-anon?
>>47135 >hohols claim lake baikal >but administrator make error >hohol go to lake karachay instead >all dead within two hours >such is life in russia
>>47140 It can be anything from a genuine attempt at reducing the overgrown top brass to some political bullshit. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that even the people signing the papers didn't know why it is happening. The first excuse was that they want younger people for a high tech military, and so they can now send to early retirement anyone with at least 25 years of service. Which is funny, because early retirement was a big thing many people choose the various uniformed services (including even firefighters), and they was a lot of protesting in the 2010s when Orbán's government get rid of it, and now they bring it back in all but name. Again, it's a confusing mess, and you have to remember that by now Hungary pretty much works like back when we still had soviet troops garrisoned here: loyalty to the party is the only thing that matters, and competence is a foreign concept.
>>47142 I see. Some are saying it was to oust a big block of top brass that were more Globohomo/NATO/Zelensky-aligned, since the PM intends to align the country directly with based Putin during the upcoming jew-world-war 3. Does that seem at all resonable to you Strelok?
>>47131 >On the contrary I think that's exactly what they will do. That's an ironclad casus belli for Russia to retaliate though, NATO has been walking on eggshells to prevent this from spilling out of Ukraine. >>47130 >force projection of a jet Jets project that force primarily by launching missiles, which are a specialized type of suicide drones anyway. Russia has been crippling the Ukrainian electrical grid using cruise missiles with virtually no risk or repercussions since missiles are one-time-use by design. You're also kinda ignoring support drones used for targeting/recon, jets sorta do that sometimes but not a great fit for it. >Helicopters in this conflict have been shown Choppers have barely participated in combat recently though (although I'll consider evidence to the contrary), they're highly vulnerable to MANPADs and other AA. >>47131 >Isn't that the road we're on? On the road, yeah but I don't think the destination is certain yet. NATO wants to keep the party contained within Ukraine but also draw in Russia as much as possible so they're going to keep testing the boundaries albeit carefully and hesitantly. >It's absolutely insane of Zelensky/Biden to believe they can retake Crimea and force a 'color revolution' in Russia but that is their only strategy. Of course they'll try it after orange revolution/euromaidan worked in Kiev (closest facsimile of Russia) no one's going to be creative about it. Although I think the war only serves to galvanize Russia against this sort of thing.
>>47148 >Choppers have barely participated in combat Most of what I have seen has been high angle rocket launches such as the last mp4 here >>47015. I hope they send a bunch of AH-64s next, I want to see what happens.
>>47149 how would the AH-64 fare against the Mi-28s and Ka-50/52? I think they'd last longer than the abrahams and leopards would
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Guess what was passing by during smoke break heading for Europe? >Landmarks Glowniggers GTFO it's on public land, damn it. >It's just a convoy These are common in May/June but not in January/February.
>>47151 this will not end well streloks..
>>47152 What, a farmer's cow gonna derail teh train or what?
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>>47149 >high angle rocket launches Looks like he dumped pod of 5 ATGMs there? Seems like everything adapts into another form of artillery in this conflict. (nothing wrong with that) >>47150 >how would the AH-64 fare against the Mi-28s and Ka-50/52? If you're suggesting air to air combat between helicopters it's basically unheard of. Although I'm really curious now
>>47151 Wonder how hard it would be to steal an mrap from there? Would be hilarious if cartels were stealing some californian style. >>47040 >War crimes aren't real What do you mean by that anon? Is it not real since in the heat of moment on the ground anything can happen? Or are you insinuating that there can be no such thing as a war crime? Seems to me we would have a hell of a lot more ukraines if the latter was true.
>>47156 The only war crime is defeat. All "war crimes" follow from that one.
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>>47156 There is no such thing in a war crime in the sense that they were only invented after WW2 to drive the Germans and Japs into the ground to make sure they wouldn't be a threat to burger/slav hegemony in the upcoming half-century. Ignoring that a large majority of what would be considered "crimes" were never prosecuted, with nips having a literal secret lab for human experimentation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731) or Kraut scientists being appropriated by burgers for their own needs (Operation Paperclip), or breaking up ethnic conflicts that don't concern them in the slightest (Balkan Slapfest) and picking a side for completely arbitrary reasons, it is no longer what is and is not legal/moral and more of "if i lose will they use this against me and execute half my army for doing what i told them to", at which point it becomes a matter of game theory: expect that whatever you do to the enemy, they're going to do right back to you. if you take no prisoners and execute surrendering soldiers on the spot, they won't give you quarter either. if you start bombarding their cities with cyanide gas, they'll do the same to you (Iran-Iraq War). if you toast their troops extra crispy with napalm and white phosphorus, they'll reciprocate. Assume that whatever you do to their army, they'll repay the favor, most likely much harder and more brutally than you did. So in a sense, instead of using them from a moral perspective, they're just used to further drive the enemy into the ground when they're defeated, and leave an even more bitter taste of resentment and spite among the general population for a longer period of time than had you just forced them to surrender and helped them rebuild afterwards. Have you ever stopped to consider the insanity of a country halfway around the world overthrowing a government with a war lasting only a month, with the only justification being complete hearsay and no physical evidence in regard to their possession of chemical weapons? Or that the International Court of Justice never prosecutes the winners of the war, despite them using the same underhanded methods of winning the war that the enemy did? Or that despite being "International" the main country funding, staging, and executing all these foreign wars isn't even a part of it? tl;dr War crimes exist only to strengthen the winners more, speaking loudly and carrying a big fucking gun and pointing it at anything they or their handlers don't like. If you're going to wage war, always remember that no matter how much you demonize the other side, they are still human and will use the same tactics against you that you are using against them, ranging from giving quarter to surrendering troops or deleting cities with thermobaric/nuclear weapons.
>>47157 Basically. "War crimes" are just modern civilizations giving a moral flavor to vae victis.
War crimes are real and have existed for thousands of years. It's war that has changed, not the agreements about what is and isn't allowed in battle. Foreign nations of completely different cultures have agreed to what is and isn't allowed in battle/post-battle since before the Greeks. Italy made an entire sport out of it for a few hundred years. The concept of total war only come about because of the complete fuckups who were in charge during WWI who couldn't reconcile new weapons of mass destruction with their old gentlemen's agreements from the age of muskets and cavalry. Prior to that only some Asian countries (China) adopted such complete disregard for human life. >>47159
>>47165 Total war was literally invented by the yanks in their war for federale dominion over the southerners dr mr fagtron sir total war wasn't used in WWI because of nations general foppishness and/or respect for human life. The eternal anglo notwithstanding (both the new and the old), truly bloodthirsty regimes only really sprung up in nations as they dropped out of the war.
>>47165 >It's war that has changed, not the agreements about what is and isn't allowed in battle. Strelok, have you ever read a book? Wiping out entire cities/villages and targeting civilians was done throughout middle east, asia, europe, africa or north america. Slavery, torture, humiliation and execution of prisoners was all standard practice. There's nothing civilized about war, if both sides were civilized there would be war.
>>47166 >WWI because of nations general foppishness and/or respect for human life What the fuck am I reading, honestly. Did I end up in an alternate timeline again??
>>47159 So there was never a hard moral/lawful code of war between nations. but everyone ran on the principle of eye for an eye with escalation resulting in worst long-term consequences from the losers? Makes sense but kinda depressing to think, as you said, that modern countries only use the excuse of war crimes to bully smaller countries without caring about the long-term. though maybe that's all part of the plan, to make the west the sacrificial goat before they jump ship >>47157 I disagree. depends on the definition of defeat. Looking at how the jews turned out, they should be like the main characters of a novel series, the underdogs winning victory over everyone beyond all odds, but the cost has been far more than just morality. Its been identity, culture, humanity, the average rothschild is practically a whole different species from the jew from 2000 years ago, and destroying the world, destroying themselves, destroying any real future for all mankind not even excluding them, has it really been worth it? Sort of like a country going full communist to win a war, only to slowly lose everything you used to be in the end, or more relevant to the thread; ukraine trying to fight to the last man instead of suing for peace at the start. >>47165 >Prior to that only some countries (China) adopted such complete disregard for human life Don't forget the muslims too, both of which having the most regressive, stagnant, shit-head cultures, that without would have easily surpassed europe in bringing about industrialization and the modern era centuries in advance. Though you can't talk brutal disregard for human life without bringing up commies, and if not for the ussr fucking ukraine so hard for so long, they would never be this intensely and brutally in support of this war against russians to a suicidal degree, a great example of long term consequences.
>>47144 Perhaps, but I think its a genuine attempt at modernizing the army. I guess that at worst they'll just send away a couple hundred people with reasonably high pensions and thats about it.
>>47172 >Don't forget the Muslims I specifically didn't mention them because the Muslims aren't one unified entity. The Muslims around India/Pakistan were following Hindi cultural norms but were civil for that area, and while the Turks had their own fair share of problems, for the most part they could be seen as "lawful evil" when you read up on their inter-relations with the Orthodox Christians and how they waged war prior to the crusades. Comparing them to German/Bulgarian protestants or the Roman Catholics' "affections" towards the Byzantines, they weren't all that different. Most of the stories of shit-tier Muslims came from North Africa and the Arabian peninsula where the Portuguese and Spanish who weren't exactly known for their civilized nature in war were constantly bringing stories back of the shit those Muslims were getting up to. Most of the stories today about shit-tier Muslims lo' and behold come from North Africa and the Arabian Peninsula as well.
Georgia Wants Russia to Leave Its Land in a Ukraine Peace Deal https://archive.ph/5uyQD >Georgia’s president said Russia must be required to abandon its nearly 15-year-long occupation of her nation’s territory as part of an eventual peace deal to end the Kremlin’s war in Ukraine. “Russia has to learn where its borders are,” President Salome Zourabichvili said in an interview in the capital, Tbilisi. “The Georgian issues should be on the table because nobody should think that this war can be resolved without Russia retreating from all the occupied territories” in the region, she said. It's like they want to make sure that they will end up on the chopping block again. If Russia wins they might actually be next, but if Russia manages to lose they could use that as a chance to get back these territories. So they best position for them would be to quietly observe the events and prepare for war. But no, you can't a stronk independynt wom*n in charge and expect her to stay quiet when staying quiet is objectively the best possible option. https://archive.ph/lxJfa This article is all slavrunes, but apparently Ukraine started calling in people who normally would be considered unfit for service. They say it's for second line duties, but that most likely means people who were in the second line now get to go to the first line.
Putin threatens tough response to Western tank supplies for Kiev https://www.rt.com/russia/570872-putin-response-to-threats/ >Unbelievable, but true – we are once again threatened with German Leopard tanks, with crosses on their hull. And once again seeking to battle Russia in Ukraine with the help of Hitler’s followers, the Banderites,” Putin said. >“Those seeking to defeat Russia on the battlefield apparently do not realize that a modern war with Russia would be entirely different for them. We’re not sending our tanks to their borders. Yet we have something to respond with, and it would not be limited to armor use only, everyone must realize that,” he added.
>>47179 >kvetching about muh iron cross maybe germoney actaully wants a shot at round two and sees this as their chance
>>47176 Georgia is a year late to be making those demands lol.
>>47180 Perhaps the warhawks. Scholtz has expressed unofficially that he's sick and tired of Germany getting involved in Ukraine and only approved it to make the hens shut up.
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Apparently Zelensky had the gestapo just raid and purge gis benefactor, Igor Kolomoisky. What the fuck is going on?
>>47172 >the average rothschild is practically a whole different species from the jew from 2000 years ago That's because the modern globohomo jew is Khazarian rather than Hebrew.
>>47165 >It's war that has changed Stopped reading there. War... war never changes. That's the rules, stranger.
>>47173 OK, fair enough thanks. I have high-hopes for Hungary to successfully resist the Globohomo evil myself, and so maybe I'm just projecting personally. My understanding it was going to be several hundred ousted actually, but maybe that was wrong.
>>47176 >she Found the problem, Strelok.
>>47176 >This article is all slavrunes, but apparently Ukraine started calling in people who normally would be considered unfit for service Greater Jerusalem won't be satisfied until every single Ukrainian-born man, woman, and child is KIA. Other than the Jews ofc, but they all were shuffled out immediately at the start of the conflict IIRC. What's bizarre is that the slimy rat comedian isn't hanging from a pole yet. Haven't the Hohols even a modicum of common sense and moral fibre? I pity them, honestly. This will be complete genocide before the jews are finished with these people.
>>47176 >that most likely means people who were in the second line now get to go to the first line. This, along with the forced conscription videos being propagandized by Russian channels, suggests that Ukraine is running out of men. How long before NATO sends new "PMCs" to boost the numbers? >>47184 Uncle Schmeul Sam told him they want a monopoly on corruption. Zelensky has new benefactors now.
>>47191 >How long before NATO sends new "PMCs" to boost the numbers? They'll send "humanitarian aid workers" first who will just so happen to act as spies and transport guns with their food/aid. Then when they get shot talk of PMCs will begin.
>>47191 >How long before NATO sends new "PMCs" to boost the numbers? Didn't 'Mozart' last 30 seconds flat?
I just exited a punk concert and there was this guy shouting "Ukraine uber alles" again and again. What an odd timeline
>>47194 what concert
>>47195 I might dox myself, just an old school famous punk band
I saw a 'news' report about a video capturing footage of a supposed Ukrainian ray-weapon that destroyed a Russian tank. Any legitimate news report on this Strelok?
>>47193 I'm not sure Mozart was ever in combat. The most recent thing I saw from them was that they were only assisting with humanitarian aid only. Although I wouldn't be surprised if the muhreen in charge realized this war wasn't as easy as fighting hadjis so they back tracked.
>>47179 >we have something to respond with Does that mean nuclear weapons? He should just trigger some rapefugee flows into Europe if he wants to escalate.
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>>47197 Was this the weapon?
>>47200 Yes it's nukes. >trigger some rapefugee flows into Europe That's exactly what this conflict has done. But also wait for the pending for shortages next year.
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>>47190 >Haven't the Hohols even a modicum of common sense and moral fibre? Is this a trick question? Also, why am I getting interfering image messages from /r9fuckingk/ of all places?
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>>47165 >Italy made an entire sport out of it for a few hundred years. >rival mercenary companies agreeing to settle the matter by a series of single combat matches in order not to lose men and materiel in a battle >the guy leading one of the companies later gains the title of a duke and becomes a well-known patron of arts It was a fun period, I wish it was more widely represented. Although, you're missing the point with the war crimes; gentlemen's agreements from the past aren't the same thing as kangaroo courts and laws designed explicitly to muzzle the vaniquished and to drag them through the mud. You don't see anyone in uk*aine being prosecuted for war crimes even though there are more than one instance caught on tape and published. Even the moralfags are celebrating it now. Remember the Vietnam war? The burgers did more than a few no-no things down there, and even with a large part of the media apparatus yapping against the war, these guys often didn't get more than a slap on the wrist for it. Today you get pravda-tier articles and normalfaggot sadism set to 11. There will never be any impartial and indepentent authority able to judge and prosecute "war crimes" in a just manner.
>>47202 Lol, no. The weapon itself wasn't shown, just the destruction of the tank. There was some kind of plasma-looking 'trail' leading away from the explosion, presumably back towards the source of the fire.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-Vr0BuLzhRg Weeb estimates a Russian offensive next Friday if I'm listening correctly.
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Eighty-eight more German tanks to be sent - report https://archive.ph/NSzHZ >The move follows a headline-grabbing announcement late last month that 14 of the country's newer Leopard 2 tanks would be sent Kyiv's way >As many as 88 of the older Leopard 1s are to be sent, according to a report earlier today by Süddeutsche Zeitung. But, the newspaper writes that these vehicles are in need of repair. The Leopard 1 entered service in the 1960s. >Officials in Berlin have declined to confirm the number due to be sent.
>>47221 If only Cuckermany would go full NatSoc 1488... there might be hope for humanity yet. Alas, the Globohomo has strangled that once-great people to death today. The West is done. The East is the rising light now.
>>47222 Kill yourself.
>>47221 >Sending all their current tanks >Sending all their old tanks too now >That story of anon in the German army getting arrested for standing guard at his post If a new Sino war starts Russia has free real estate after Poland until they reach France. Holy shit. Never ever because Russia would stop giving a shit once they reach the German border anyways.
>>47225 >That story of anon in the German army getting arrested for standing guard at his post Which story is that?
>>47227 Was back on 8chan. Some Bubdeswehr-anon was on guard duty (one of the only times they can legally carry guns), and a schoolbus of small children were touring. He did a routine stop because he stops all vehicles and some cunt saw the gun and called the cops. Police arrested the guard on duty for having a firearm and then the army and cops had a shit fit with each other before deciding the guard was at fault for being armed for a passing schoolbus since it was being armed on school property.
>>47231 >bolis arrest army officer amazing how the fear/slave mentality goes so deep now, not sure if they can ever recover from it.
>>47224 You first, fren. >>47225 >If a new Sino war starts Russia has free real estate after Poland until they reach France. Holy shit. It's probably the most likely scenario too, IMO. Once ZOG starts jew-world-war III in the China Straight, Literally Putler will have little to stop him in Yurope. >>47235 >not sure if they can ever recover from it. Probably not. They have officially joined the ranks of Untersmen today.
So it seems like constant NATO escalation has been the case for the past month. What will the Russian response be? I doubt they will just continue with things as is the whole time. Will it be more strikes on electrical infrastructure? The use of FOABs? A serious nuclear ultimatum?
>>47241 Hohols expect that the Vatniks will zergrush them around the 1 year anniversary of this very special military operation, and >>47220 seems to agree. If it really does happen and they manage to take a whole region, then that could be an adequate response. Of course, it is also possible that Poutine will announce the end of the conflict or something similar, because apparently Vatniks forgot how to war properly
>>47242 I wonder if Russia is ever going to actually make it an official war instead of a special-needs military operation. I've lost count of how many times the rumour mill has claimed it was about to happen.
>>47242 I remember Russia shitposting on twatter when America had been on high alert about them starting shit on a specific date, only to do it a bit later when people had let their guard down a little. They could always repeat that, ZOG is probably dumb enough to fall for it twice.
>>47220 >if I'm listening correctly He is hard to listen to. Sounds like a Turk in Canuckstan. >a Russian offensive next Friday All depends on the weather. If China can get a balloon to hover over US nuclear sites then eastern HAARP is way superior to the CIA's so maybe they'll get what they need i.e. two to three months of frozen ground. It's a big gamble as the whole assault could get mired in a thaw and be easy picking for Hohol shells. On top of that Russia needs to sort its logistics so it can sustain a big assault. They're not capable of Blitzkreig as Weeb says but they need to be at least 1944 standard and better than the shambles they started this business with. >>47244 >ZOG is probably dumb enough to fall for it twice Certainly is. Their "intelligence" these days is probably a few juniors reading twatter then making reports which the seniors swear to their seniors is the latest sekrit stealz from 1337 field agents. And so it goes up the chain being embellished at every stage until some Buck Turgidson tells Bidet the Ruskies will attack on a certain day and nobody thinks to ask for evidence.
>>47244 >ZOG is probably dumb enough to fall for it twice. Scott Ritter had an interesting take on this and basically explained that the current generation of glowniggers are politicized, so instead of giving correct information they spin it however their managers want them to even if it means faulty/false info.
https://nitter.1d4.us/RuslanR17343536/status/1621051569524604930 So the Russians brought down some AA from the Arctic.
>>47190 >Haven't the Hohols even a modicum of common sense and moral fibre? Anon, this is a country who's two top exports are wheat and child model photography, what do you think?
>>47176 Well shit it looks like Russia is going to liberate the shit out of Georgia next.
>>47215 If we're talking about the same video the trail is on the opposite side of the projectile so I'd chalk this up to HEAT doing weird shit again.
>>47251 >I'd chalk this up to HEAT doing weird shit again. Certainly seems more likely to me too. Occam's Razor and watnot. Just thought I'd check with the experts first.
>>47245 >Their "intelligence" these days is probably a few juniors reading twatter then making reports which the seniors swear to their seniors is the latest sekrit stealz from 1337 field agents. And so it goes up the chain being embellished at every stage until some Buck Turgidson tells Bidet the Ruskies will attack on a certain day and nobody thinks to ask for evidence. Reasonable analysis Strelok, but you forgot one point: Trannies. 3-letter agencies are stacked with these asylum-fodder today. Surely having several certifiably-insane individuals along the chain will affect the eventual outcome?
>>47251 >>47255 >video webm or link please?
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>>47278 Oh that's clearly a jewish space laser.
>>47278 Looks like something fiery is being thrown out of it really fuckin fast to me with how the smoke trail looks.
>>47046 my bad, should've put a warning. but ty >>47055 >>47056 I've heard good things about handbrake. the issue is that the drone footage is way heavier in MB than the combat footage. I went ahead and processed it into 5 parts anyway.
>>47292 >I went ahead and processed it into 5 parts anyway. Nice work Strelok, thanks.
>>47193 >>47198 https://archive.ph/E0Aap According to this Jew York Times article they were basically a bunch of muscleheads who just wanted to rake in money and have some fun in the Kiyevan night.
>>47309 >Run the group like a frat house >Ignore the guy trying to turn it into a legitimate business >Shit on your customer >Shit on your major shareholder >Get banned from working in half the world >Specifically the half that handles most combat-related disputes >Act surprised when the money runs out Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
>>47309 Note the generally sympathetic tone of the article about a group that is essentially blackwater 2.0.
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>>47309 >Mr. Milburn, 59, met Mr. Bain, 58. Also a former Marine colonel, Mr. Bain had been working in media and marketing in Ukraine for more than 30 years. >Mr. Milburn, whose career has tracked America’s wars of the past three decades, from Somalia to Iraq, had both the combat experience and the contacts. He counts Marine heavyweights like the author Bing West and a former defense secretary, Gen. James Mattis, as friends. >But the Ukrainians could not pay for it, leaving Mozart reliant on a small pool of steady donors, including a group of East Coast financiers with Jewish-Ukrainian roots and a Texas tycoon. If this follows the usual pattern of current and former US government employees involved in Ukraine then someone was laundering a lot of money.
>>47329 >was laundering a lot of money What makes you think they stopped?
>>47329 >that clip Soy. Soy never changes.
>>47308 for sure, ty. it turned out to be an interesting challenge, splitting it into 5 parts for posting purposes, despite the very inconsistent bandwidth. also, the original kremennaya music video in 1 piece: https://anonfiles.com/N6N1gfWfya/kremen-34gs-2_mp4
>>47329 >Mr. Bain Was going bankrupt part of his plan?
>>47357 His hit on the Ukraine didn't work, my friend
>>47360 They were paid a small fortune though.
I'm posting here: https://zzzchan.xyz/k/thread/322.html Until >>47199 is deleted. Not making a new thread.
>>47372 What does that have to do with anything Ukraine, Karen? Go cry to the modnagers and don't bring your plebbit tier shaming habit to this place.
>>47165 The term "war crime" was invented by people who live in utopian bubbles away from real enemies. If you think war crimes are real then you live in a country that is surrounded only by other civilised nations and your people haven't had to fight for their very existence in a millennium, if ever. Good luck convincing a Chink or Jap that they shouldn't kill every single bipedal being they come across. Good luck convincing a Greek or Turk not to stack POWs heads 15 feet high. Good luck convincing an Indian not to rape, butcher and burn every Pakistani village in his way. Good luck convincing a Serb or Albanian not to commit ethnic cleansing.
>>47372 Kek. Don't the door, precious.
>>47372 It is a shit thread, admittedly.
>>47372 it's a spam thread, they get posted all over the webring and should be taken down by now. mods are blind.
Nothing much to report last few days except minor Russian gains. Here's some videos I've found instead.
>>47374 >>47214 >>47161 >>47159 I think there is such a thing as excessive, dishonorable conduct in warfare, eg Ukraine dropping PFM-1 butterfly mines on civilian areas in Donetsk. At the same time, it's almost impossible to prosecute war crimes with any modicum of fairness or impartiality, because they're used as an excuse to dehumanize and humiliate the vanquished party, as streloks said. >>47384 the site linked by the spammer seems like a honeypot, so I'll assume it is.
>>47386 >eg Ukraine dropping PFM-1 butterfly mines on civilian areas in Donetsk. This. While not as bad as specifically-targeting civilians as this was, their dehumanizing, brutal torture of captured Russians (remember all that Strelok?) was clearly beyond the pale, and is bringing their just retribution down on the Hohol's heads. They're hardly better than standard-issue mudshts, or beaner cartels, or tribal niggers at that point. They've all left their humanity behind at that stage and seemingly are little better than animals.
>>47373 >>47378 Obvious outsider. Better hope your niggerpill cuck fantasies are real, because if shit ever pops off you will be tortured gleefully and you will deserve it.
>>47386 >the site linked by the spammer seems like a honeypot, so I'll assume it is. I wouldn't have even clicked it, but I decided to check out your claim. AFAICT, it's the exact opposite of some kind of gayop. Point in case (just one of literally 1'000+ of these), 'Memorial Pages' pic-related. > Glowniggers don't create shit like this. Watch CNN, et al, to see them at work. This was developed by someone that autisically hates nigger.
>>47391 I remember that all too well. I think GAE is encouraging their worst tendencies. Not all Ukros might be like that, but they should know better than to serve Jewish tyranny. Point is, there is a valid concept there, but "war crimes" is also a linguistic weapon and psyop, like "disinformation" and "conspiracy theory", which describe things GAE doesn't like as opposed to actual bullshit. >>47404 I'll admit, I jumped to conclusions, and hadn't delved into its content when I made that post. In fact, it is a repository of red-pilled knowledge. It's unlikely that the usual suspects would pull that together just to gather IP's. The only thing that gives me pause is the WhoIs data, where most of the info is redacted, and it's hosted by CloudFlare, which is known to be cucked. But anyway, my tendency to assume the worst should be understandable.
>>47408 Alright fair enough. No worries mate.
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This video has been going around on twitter. The soldier in the video is supposedly Russian (aligned) and the drone is supposedly Ukrainian operated. Some are saying it is of a chemical weapon attack with a nerve agent being used - hence the flailing. Others are saying it is just frag fucking with his nerves. Don't know what to make of it myself. Does it make much sense to use chemical weapons for such a small scale attack? Would the Ukrainians have access to such weapons?
>>47421 he's definitely a Z (you can see the red band on his leg towards the end), if it were a chemical attack wouldn't there be a larger gas cloud? seems more like shrapnel may have gotten in his leg/face making him writhe in pain, then he starts drowning halfway through resulting in more writhing.
>>47421 There was a video published on one of the Russian telegram channels few days ago. In the video there was some Ukrainan drone operator talking to the camera while a fridge with small glass vials with something solid in them got into the frame. Russians obviously threw a shit fit a bout it, there was a talk of some compound of cyanide that needs to be cooled to like -6C to be solid. As to if it was really chemical warfare? Who knows. Ukraine can get away with anything short of a nuke and Russians won't be able to respond symmetrically.
>>47421 It's hard to say. We know gas in general can be effective on such small scales (grenades are how police deploy tear gas, after all) and drone-dropping them takes away any risk to the operator that a hand-thrown gas grenade would have. But at the same time it seems possible that that soldier is just injured by shrapnel, and flailing in panic as he tries to avoid drowning from the combination of injuries, heavy gear, and frigid water. A fucking terrible way to die either way. >>47422 >if it were a chemical attack wouldn't there be a larger gas cloud Plenty of gas weapons are colorless and clear. Even back in WWI you had phosgene, which killed more than five times as many people as chlorine and mustard gases combined, and these days you've got things like sarin.
>>47404 >white victims of black crime I remember there was always a thread on /pol/ years back, with these exact infographics.
>>47408 >The only thing that gives me pause is the WhoIs data, where most of the info is redacted, and it's hosted by CloudFlare You mean like everything else pajeetnationalists spam links to on the interwebz
>>47421 >Does it make much sense to use chemical weapons for such a small scale attack? From zelensky's point of view, it makes some sense. As the west will never acknowledge it and it will get the Russians to escalate 'disproportionally' as they will market it as. They can also just blame it on the Russians and the west won't look twice. Ultimately depends on how desperate zelensky is, he may go entirely off the rails to get NATO involved anyway he can. Or someone in NATO wants to repeat Syrian gas attack claims, only they want investigators to find something real so they can blame the Russians as "Ukraine does not have chemical weapons :^)". >Would the Ukrainians have access to such weapons? Getting the precursors are likely the hardest part of making them (probably the hardest part of making anything) and they have government(s) help with that so it's a non-issue. Making them in small batches is feasible, it also means any stores are small and can be destroyed quickly. It's not like they need a whole lot either way. Of course this video could be just shrapnel wounds, but what >>47423 put out it's worth paying attention and waiting to see if there are any other cases similar to this.
>>47423 Do you still have that video?
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>>47432 Had to go trough telegram channels to find this one again ,can't find the second video as it was posted several days ago and buried under hundreds of posts on another random Russian channel, can't exactly remember which one. Looking at the video again, there's obvious plausible deniability here, as exact compound is not shown, but kinda strange its stored in fridge.I can't think of any reason to store it there if not for chemical properties inside the cylinders. Once again, could be chemical, could be nothing. Russian seem to think there's a reason to be alarmed though, but that's not saying much given the circumstances .
>>47425 >I remember there was always a thread on /pol/ years back, with these exact infographics. Maybe some anon just collected them all together, then added more?
>>47434 >could be nothing 'Nothing' as in some kind of binary liquid explosive, Strelok? Seems a bit redundant as C4 would be easier/safer. This definitely would have me up in arms in I were a Russian combatant.
>>47439 I thought binary for a second too, but then again, it seems like an afwul lot of work and preparation when plasticides are more than plentiful on the battlefield and you can just take Efonka or VOG ,put it on a drone and call it a day.
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>>47421 Russian soldiers are wearing 10kg weights on their shoulders and additional 10kg weights on their thighs as part of standard issue infantry body armor to prevent deadly injury by shrapnel or fire. That looks like a video of someone getting shrapnel to the eyes, falling face-first into ice-cold water, becoming disoriented, and having too much weight near the top of his body relative to center of mass to correct himself (initial flailing). When he realizes what is going on he tries to re-orient himself because the weights on his thighs are keeping him from just standing back upright like a normal person would in a ditch of ice-cold water. He tries desperately to get a "grip" with his legs on any kind of surface to help right himself, but it seems as if he propelled his upper body into a slightly deeper ditch than where he initially was at which point the weights make it impossible to correct himself.
>>47408 >>47428 >WhoIs data, where most of the info is redacted Every single domain registrar I know anonymizes whois data by default, it hasn't been useful in ages (if ever). >CloudFlare Fun fact: anon.cafe's nameserver is ns4.impreza.host which in turn is backed by cloudflare DNS. And anything at CF's scale is going to be cucked if it's to continue existing.
>>47421 If the DoD backed their research laboritories it's entirely possible they've been training chemists and biologists on the how to of certain CW/BW agents. Spasms are indicative of nerve poisoning, blood coming from the mouth may be indicative of shrapnel to the face, or chlorine gas attacking the lining of the lungs. Cyanid will prevent your blood cells from metabolising oxygen, which will cause you to slip into unconsciousness. This would also affect your muscle function. Nerve spasms cause you to seize to death in the spot you fell after your lethal dose, not flail about as if you have a chance of fighting it. I think it's less likely a piece of shrapnel hit a nerve cluster in his face that would make his lower back and limbs fail to work without having killed him.
split up another large video, this one's a musician guided tour near Bakhmut. >>47454 well alright, I just wasn't sure. >>47459 yea, let's not forget the US bioweapon labs in Ukraine. It all fits together. The Kiev regime basically has carte blanche to commit war crimes, since normalniggers will think it's "disinformation" no matter how well documented and proven, while credulously believing obvious fake&gay ops like Bucha. It reminds me of that interview on youtube with the defected KGB agent, and what he described as demoralization.
During Zelensky's visit to the UK, the PM responded to his request for planes by saying that "nothing is off the table". Didn't take long after the tanks to start laying the groundwork for the next escalation.

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