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Gun purchases. Panic buying new fags. And other shit. Strelok 07/28/2020 (Tue) 23:30:07 No.4526
Alright faggots. 2020 so far has been fun and it created a ton of new fags for the gun community. Now this board is likely not the first, second, or third place a new fag will come for gun advice. So this is not that thread. So have any of you: Bought a gun sometime this year? Bought a piece of gear like an optic or maybe even armor? Helped someone buy a gun? Teach someone how to not anhero? Or did you laugh and call someone a faggot for not buying earlier? Did a family member or friend or coworker become a total retard the second they got their first gun? either turning into an internet tough guy or saying I'm a 2A person now """"""BUT"""""" Were you planning to buy something but just said fuck it due to the lines and/or couldn't because of stripped bare shelves? Do any of you happen to work in a gun store and did you get fun phone calls from people in shitholes asking to buy a fun and have it delivered to their doors? Do you live and work in a shithole and have the fun of explaining the hoops they have to jump through? Did you explain the hoops and obstacles with a shit eating grin on your face? I've been trying to get two friends to get a gun for a while now and neither have made the effort to even get a wood stick for defense even though one said he wanted a fun for possible shtf reasons way before gook aids was a thing. Some people can't get motivated by seeing hordes of retards talk about spreading the fun I guess. I've helped two boomer age pencil pushers by taking them to the range and letting them fire an okay amount I think of self defense oriented guns (AR, shotguns, DA\SA and striker fired handguns, a revolver also) and got paid for it too. They had a bit of a reaction upon seeing the AR A3/A4 20 inch style but after handling the shotguns and handguns they warmed up real quick to it. Lines had been forming outside of gun shops when this all kicked off, sometimes wrapping around the block while the rain was pouring. I figured I would wait for the panic buying to calm down and thought I'd be safe since the gun I've been wanting was either a Ruger sp101 or a Smith and Wesson J-frame thinking plastic blasters and shotguns would be the only things that would be hard to restock. But then a wonderful culture spreader got subtracted from the diversity interaction statistics, and for now I won't be able to larp as a 30s detective or CC in a plastic dog shit bag in hand while blasting a home made pharmaceuticals enthusiast if it ever comes to it.
I bought my WASR back in late march, just before the panic buying fucked the prices of guns.
I got a Hunter Force air gun and a Pedersoli black powder rifle in case the apocalypse hits.
Looking to get a marlin 45-70 gov but some places around me are jacking up prices. So I say fuck it and will wait a few months till election season is over.
A month before the panic set in the states I bought a gun and some plates. Unfortunately the plates and the carrier have still yet to get here. Fortunately for me I don't have many friends so no two faced nigger buying was going on around me to piss me off.
I already had some funs before this and got a hold of an AR and another pistol as well. I did not get any vests, belts, or other useful items however which I really should have.
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>go to local gun place to get ammo >makes everyone wait outside >ask if they have any shot >guy says their out >asks when they'll be back in stock >he just laughs fug
>>4538 >Hunter Force air gun You got a way to recharge that without power besides a hand pump or are shills crapping on hand pumps trying to get sales? >>4549 Sort of reminds of my third attempt at getting a J-frame >live in shit hole >go to more suburban on the edge close to rural areas where people probably already have guns >find gun shop that has only one person waiting outside like god is shining a light pointing the way >38 snub is probably the only handgun besides foty-fo black hawks, 1911s, or other revolver hunting type guns that fudds would ever dare to approve of >hello sir do you guys have any smith and wesson J-frames like a 442 or 638 <no way son thems law enforcement only
I gave away multiple firearms to friends/family before wu-flu kicked in, I was looking at the shorty semi-auto 12 gauge shotguns but they all seem to be bought out. Currently reading up on the keltec KS7 if that's worth getting since they are still (kinda) available.
>>4552 It's spring piston, so no recharging necessary. Not quite as much power, but it's quiet and still good enough to kill most stuff with good enough aim.
>>4526 I was building my first AR since I believe a year ago. Now I'm almost complete, literally need to drill 1 more hole and then I have a fully functional lower. The collet for the router flew off of it, and I'm just waiting for that. I bought fuck loads of ammo a few days ago. They restock on Saturdays, so I am extremely lucky I was there on Saturday morning because the store is around 40 miles away from my home. I went to shoot with my dad, and we shot up all our ammo, and then we went to the stores to get more. Almost all the stores were empty of common calibers like .22 LR .223, 9mm and .45 ACP. My dad only owns a .45 1911, and I have a 10/22 and a .22 Pistol (Hi-Standard Sport King). Had to go through like 12 stores. Dad finally found some cheapshit Tula .45 (100 rounds for 30 bucks) and I got 150 rounds of Hornady 5.56, around 100 rounds of cheapshit Wolf hollow point, some PMC X-TAC 5.56, and 400 rounds of Armscor .22LR Hollow Point. My dad bought some 9mm as well for his friends as his friends said they haven't had any luck. Was told by other people that Californians will drive to your state and buy fuck loads of ammo and drive back home. This may have been the reason why ammo was so scarce.
>>4552 >no way son thems law enforcement only It fucking infuriates me that someone would go through all the fucking hoops and bullshit to own a gun store and still come out the other side being a retarded fudd.
>>4573 >Was told by other people that Californians will drive to your state and buy fuck loads of ammo and drive back home It's almost like the law that prohibits buying "Too Much" ammo doesn't do anything except piss off everyone that lives near Commieforina.
>>4575 The only decently priced .22 I bought was from a store that had a policy of 100 rounds per customer. The box came in 200 so that was a exception. My dad bought one and I bought one. Every other store either had no 22LR, or it had shit like ratshot or meme match .22 that costed as much as 9mm. I really wish other gun stores had that policy, but honestly if Californians start killing eachother, I would gracefully let them cuck me out of our ammo.
>>4573 Is online purchasing a no go for you guys don't want records or bad shipping costs? Because I've been getting slammed every other day with emails about "a small shipment of ammo has arrived" usually range stuff and rarely defensive kinds unfortunately >Was told by other people that Californians will drive to your state and buy fuck loads of ammo and drive back home This shit's hilarious since most of the gun shops or ammo stores I've seen in California like LAX ammo or bass pro shop still have shelves or pallets laid out and about half full at least a month ago. >>4577 >but honestly if Californians start killing eachother, I would gracefully let them cuck me out of our ammo. Don't count on that. Gang members already get their shit from other sources not like they need much anyways since jamal just buys a blaster and enough ammo to fill it assuming jamal didn't buy since he can stuff random .380, 9 mil, and somehow .40 together in there . The antifa types are more likely to wear black just for a selfie and to collect virtual ass pats. The few that actually would do shit are probably already up in Portland getting culturally expanded by tyrone cause they thought they had a nigger word pass. Roof gooks or suburb militias haven't formed or shot anything from what I can see since most faggots would rather fight their "revolution" on the internet, and whatever happens to rich libs in Beverly Hills is no skin off their noses. >>4574 I wouldn't be surprised if he only said that cause he thinks hes some kind of arbiter of firepower and protection deeming anyone not suited in mossyoak fit only for .410 single shots and .22s. Which in my local area is something that another gun shop is claimed to have done in an interview with a lib online rag. They refused to sell anything more powerful than a 20 gauge to anyone who looked like a new shooter and the damning thing is that their shop is almost only milsurp, sporterized guns, and traditional rifles/shotguns, and maybe a few used handguns.
>>4581 >I wouldn't be surprised if he only said that cause he thinks hes some kind of arbiter of firepower and protection That's even fucking worse it's bad enough most people are rabidly anti-fun without some nigger thinking he's the fucking fun gatekeeper.
>>4581 always try to stay anonymous when buying funz, which is impossible to do online, unless they're part of the 0.01% that accepts bitcoin, but even then there are tons of other factors that the feds can track you down with.
>>4549 turns out i'm retarded, local outdoor fitter had fucking aisles of ammo left. 5 box max but that's fair to me
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feelsbad being in a nogunz country.
>was going to update guide >wuhan flu happens and police forces stop responding in some cities >gun supply gets disrupted and prices start crawling back >riots >gun supply goes to shit and prices become wildly random Oh well.
Guys. Just like make gun.
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>>4641 Worst comes to worst, all you need is a log, some rope, and expendable family members.
>>4641 >>4643 >not buying a decoy house and rigging it to explode when BLM targets it Not gonna make it tbh
>>4626 Is there a guide on buying muzzleloading for those on disabitiy-bux and can't get any funs? There's too much choices. Should I get a revolver or a rifle? I worked odd jobs because I can't hold down a regular job.
>>4666 No brass frames when it comes to revolvers, everything else is fair game. BP is simple and most BP guns out there are fool proof. Just watch cap and balls maintenance video, they do need a good thorough clean when done with though.
>>4672 >they do need a good thorough clean when done with though. Especially if you're using old fashioned BP and not a BP replacement.
>>4673 Even with BP replacements its a good idea to scrub the shit out of them.
>>4666 If you are going to use it for defensive purposes I'd assume you'd want a revolver for quick follow-up shots, unless you wanted to get one of those neat 12ga double barrel muzzleloaders you could literally blast loads of cum at home invaders
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Commiefornian here and most common calibers are pretty much gone or crap like UMC, Freedom buckets, or Winchester Forged though 308 & shotgun ammo is still available, I was really surprised 8mm Mauser wasn't in stock at a couple of my go-tos but even more so that Romanian silvertip 7.62x54r spamcans were available. Places would often have 3-5 people standing before being allowed entry into the store, and the last place I visited had fudd guns being 60-80 percent in stock.
>>4728 The panic was delayed a couple weeks in bumfuck Appalachia, but now it's the same situation as everywhere else. Decent 9mm JHP like Hornady is going for well over $1/rd on the classifieds. HST and Gold Dots aren't available at any price locally.
>>4728 You north, central, or south commifornia? If south Places like LAX are fairly well stocked cheap reloads and common caliber hollow points are a bust .45 and .357 are somewhat safe and sometimes Ammo bros has shit. Just stay away from big 5 and other larger retailers like Turners. If you're reloading for your 8 mauser then you're in luck since sites like grafs and sons still have cheap ppu .323 in stock and at the same prices before the happening.
>>4735 SoCal and thanks for the new website to visit.
>>4735 >>4753 You commiefornia anons should checkout ammo supply warehouse, they will ship to your door even if you live in a commie shit hole.
The influx of newfag shooters has made it so I can't shoot anonymously at any local ranges. Every fucking range now requires ID to sign in and has cameras covering the shooting areas because these retards are trashing the ranges. About half of them now have geriatric Fudd RO's posted up at the shooting lanes. Shit has gotten so lame that I'm driving 50 miles to shoot on private land. >gallery style pistol range for rimfire and pistols >retards shoot it up with their $800 poverty ponies
>>4666 What are you on disability for? Being on disability doesn't make you a prohibited person. Only problem is hiding the assets in a trust, which is still there for non-guns.
>>4758 Unironically I have high functioning autism , I have average IQ but can't manage my funds anymore. I lost my bank account even though a court order. I was able to manage my money just fine beforehand when I work part-time. honestly I wouldn't be on 8chan shitposting ( I miss 8chan) if I didn't have autism or mental disability preventing from talking to normal people without being bullied. I would live a normal life oblivious to imageboard culture I kind of want something to protect me, I don't anyone to physically touch me or break into my home.
>>4844 Honestly man, if it's for self defense you should use something more reliable than black powder, if your budget is very low I would recommend getting a used hi point (if you find it doesn't work it has a lifetime warranty even bought used), also you should read this book to understand the law of self defense. https://b-ok.cc/book/2532308/edb198
>>4755 I wish mail-to-door was stll a thing in this shithole since they passed a bill mandating you send ammo to an FFL before ever picking it up. To kick the nail into the brain even further, an injunction was supposed to stop this shit a few months ago but the faggot 9th Circuit decided to re-instate it as an "emergency".
>>4870 What I'm saying is ASW does not care that you're in California they will ship it to you.
>>4844 have you considered archery anon? A simple recurve bow is easy to obtain and a lot of fun to train with. Get a bow rated to hunt deer with and it should be sufficient enough for man-defense. Not suggesting you do anything illegal, but you might be able to find some firearms at the larger fleamarkets provided you have the cash.
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>>4900 >not putting a scorpio into your bedroom in case of barbarian attack absolutely uncivilized
>>4902 I've seen some people making re-curve bows with PVC pipes and a heat gun. I now want to make a ballista with sewer pipe arms instead of torsion springs. Chain link fence top rail might work for cheap bolt shafts. Just jam some metal rod in there or cast concrete around it for a field tip. Lord Humongous is going to need a bigger amp if he wants to threaten me. Does the ATF care about human powered field artillery? The pumpkin chuckers can build what they want after all.
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>>4902 >>4917 PVC is way too weak to make a good ballista.
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>>4917 I also found this.
What other shit have you all seen panic buying of besides the obvious guns n'ammo, food, cleaning products and shit paper/PPE? I think people have satiated their lust for suppliments enough for there to be stable shelves for the time being around here.
>>4964 The prices of retro games went up when the states ordered the stay at home orders.
>>4956 >The cost of a crossbow should not exceed four or five dollars I want to go back to this time I saw a crossbow at the hardware store yesterday for $1000 marked down from $1200 because anyone sane would just buy a fucking rifle at that point.
>>5009 That's a normal price for most crossbows that aren't "starter tier" according to enthusiast. It's niche as fuck only really bought by hunters that can't or don't want to wait for the next season or pad out the time blasting boars or rabbits. With so few people actually buying those ancient shits and impatient hunters being mostly boomers with too much money but too little energy to walk around and check brushes for rabbits, then it's no surprise why the higher end crossbows cost as much as they do. Especially if the crossbow has the same camo as their ~$1000 (with accessories) tree stand, matching with their $300+ vest with built in memory foam ass cushion, containing $50 or more in dehydrated ice cream sandwiches, cause they're roughing it like the cavemans do.
>>5018 >>5009 >$1000 What the hell are these boomers buying some kind of modern space age composite siege crossbow?
>>5027 Same as everyone else in this hellhole buys, an object that was made for a tenth or less of the in store price that you might be able to build yourself if you took the time to learn how.
>>5027 You joke but yes in a way. Hunters want a slim, light weight, compact, package especially when dealing with brush and tree limbs a package like a 16-20-something inch bolt gun or BP rifle so companies create weird small limb, reverse limb, or no limb systems. They'll perform about the same as a cheaper normal design but with added complexity to make a sub-optimal design work as well think tavor with the outside body made first then the insides made to fit the nerf gun shell. There is an argument to be made about "buying once crying once" but it's not even about quality half the time anymore and about how scifi it looks. But on the other hand I don't expect some $50 amazon chink shit to work as well as a $700 excalibur.
>>5033 >no limb systems It looks like a an Olympic sharpshooter rifle had a baby with a flettner airplane.
>panic starts >every anti-fun family member asking for advice on buying funs and ammo Is there anything left to get at any price? I'm looking for 9mm hollow points, SD9 tier auto loaders, and ARs. I haven't checked my local store in months and even back then they were limiting common ammo to two boxes per customer a day. I looked online and prices for 5.56mm seem higher than the last time I looked. I've never ordered ammo online but I'm thinking about sending out for 1,000 rounds even at the current prices. Anyone had any luck getting something shipped these last couple of months? I can't find ARs in stock anywhere right now but I'd like to get a couple even if I have to pay double what I was paying a couple of years ago for them.
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>>5351 If you're in a blue state then even stripped lowers (besides 9mm carbines and plastic shit) are gone. Places and states where people have actually bought guns might still have parts up the ass. Ammo has been on the rise I remember .223 or 5.56 being around $.30 now it's regularly up to $.50 or even $.75 for 55 grain fmj. If you sign up for a sellers news letter they'll bombard you with emails almost always about a "NEW SMALL SHIPMENT JUST CAME IN". You just need to cross your fingers and hope it's what you want and not just a bunch of tokarev or .32 S&W short. Even if it's what you're looking for expect it to be range blaster stuff like Russian steel case. Good luck on your search for an AR even if you find one off buds gun shop or something you better hope the FFLs are still doing transfers. I'm not sure why some have been shutting off transfers besides wanting to make sure they the money goes to them but you'd think they're losing money by not raking in transfer fees.
>>5354 I'm in a red state that's slowly turning blue thanks to one of our large cities. I'll check my local shop and see if there is anything left today. I know what you mean about prices for 5.56mm I was surprised to see that FMJs are that high now. How are the prices for 7.62mm? I'm expecting they've gone up too. I don't own a rifle for that but I have a local willing to trade an SKS for something I already own. I might have to do that if I can get ammo for it. I'm fine other than having less 5.56mm than I would like. Just trying to figure out how to arm some people in the family that waited this long to buy in. How are reloading supplies? If brass, bullets, and powder isn't being panic bought I might just go ahead and invest in a press. Been meaning to do that for years anyway.
>>5355 Sorry only AK I own is a 74 so I never really looked at 7.62 but I'd imagine even tula is getting to be about $.30-$.40 assuming the site you look at isn't jacking prices up lots. Reloading parts are getting scarce not so much the powder, cases, and bullets, but the primers. Especially since the ammo manufactures themselves need them. Some sites I use are Grafs and sons and mid south shooters but good luck finding shit, it wasn't nearly as bad some weeks ago. The situation is almost so fucked that I'm considering getting into black powder for plinking instead of using .22s.
>>5356 I've always wondered if it was worth getting a firearm in some somewhat obscure calibre, and just stockpiling endless amounts of ammo for it since it's useless if you don't have that gun and you'll never have it run out. Example: 303 british. The issue is finding one that won't be more expensive then the cost of regular ammo 6.8 SPC or grendel?
>>5356 >assuming the site you look at isn't jacking prices up lots They are all doing that now that the normalfags are waking up to the fact that the police won't protect them when the commies march into their neighborhood to lynch them. It pisses me off that it takes literal commie lynch mobs to get people to think about actually protecting themselves.
>>5357 Modern .303 British is out of spec and crap (rims are out of spec so enjoy rim lock), while surplus is degraded and crap to the point of being dangerous.
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>>5361 I see what you're saying but I meant more like cheaper than dirt's idea of slight cost adjustments as opposed to midway usa or other better companies boosting prices up by a dollar or two. BTW take a gander at these prices for aguila bulk 22lr (I know for a fact super extra was riding around cci mini mag prices but not this shit) https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/aguila-super-extra-hv-.22-long-rifle-ammunition-50-rounds-40-grain-copper-plated-solid-point-1255fps/FC-640420001012.html https://www.outdoorlimited.com/rimfire-ammo/22-lr-ammo/?cid=479&search_text=&per_row=20&sortBy=8&mode=list Bonus 9mm because everyone loves $1.10 per round tula https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/tulammo-9mm-luger-ammunition-50-rounds-fmj-115-grains-ta919150/FC-814950011531.html >>5357 I was planning to do sort of this with a police trade in glock 23 or 22. the Idea being I'd just get conversion barrels for 9mm and even .357 sig if I wanted to larp as the great Gecko45, but I got lazy and my states laws didn't help good luck trying to find a .40 cal compatible non rock your glock, glock slide since everyone wants 9mm. My closest thing to hipster caliber in my safe is 8mm mauser and apparently people near me also love to goose step with their yugos in the living room since that was actually the first caliber gone from the shelves during the first chimp out. Luckily I still have some reloading components.
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>>5365 >gecko45 I fell out of my chair on that one. Unfortunately I'm a lolpoor with only single fun but I'm thinking of going for an M1 fudd in 30.06 and grabbing a spare 308 barrel. does anyone know where to find a fucking M1 that isn't overpriced rack grade bullshit on gunbroker? Because fucking election cycle + covid sold this shit out faster than KFC in detroit >>5363 thanks for the warning strelok. That being said, I know this isn't QTDDTOT but anyone have a recommendation for a semi-auto in .308 that has somewhat commonly found parts in the US? I know the M1A/garand /PSL/AR-10 exist Does armalite still use the propertiary mags? but I wasn't sure if there was a more common firearm that wasn't using clips (garand), SR9 Can't find any, AR-10 DPMS versus armalite bs, M1A also overpriced as fuck imho. ... Have a picture of a dude selling rifles I can't afford somewhat near me, I cry everytime these get sold to a fudd and not used properly like any true lad would.
>>5367 >He wants a garand that isn't some beat to death rust pipe First step is to sacrifice your first born to the fudd gods and offer them your left nut for a 1 in 10,000 chance at getting the opportunity to write a letter begging the grand boomer to accept your filthy cash. No but seriously CMP is pretty much the only way to get still usable (out of the box anyway) rifles. Usually you'd have to take a shooting test or go to competitions along with proving you volunteered at gun related stuff then you get a ticket that shows your place in line so only once they contact you they'd let you buy a rifle. Last I checked M1s that weren't blown the fuck out were in the high $2000s. There's old boomers who make make their beer money using thier qualifications to buy up the beaters and turn them into fixed up franken rifles and sell them on gunjoker for the price of a decent AR and a gen 2 night vision set. You'd think someone would try to make repro M1 rifles like they do the carbines that would probably cost no more than an M1A. but I'm certain there's a fudd and springfield conspiracy to assassinate any one who gets their hands on the complete specs for the rifles who also happen to own a cnc machine so as to not sully the grand ancient with modern manufacturing because no one wants to admit their new guns had a grand total of 45 minutes of labor from human hands and everyone wants to romantically believe their gun was personally crafted by the gun oompa loompas that live only to happily craft away in the machine shop.
>>5370 Unironically working on watches so mini granand chamber in .00308 when. But yeah, I also heard CMP field grade shit is fucked up now since they are assembling them from leftovers the 650$ rack grade is intresting.... Full rebuild almost except the receiver is shit
>>5370 >You'd think someone would try to make repro M1 rifles like they do the carbines Closest I can think of is Fulton Armory and even then IIRC those are just match grade rebuilds. Tho since we're on the topic of true repro M1 Garands, I might look apply some autism and contacts and see if I can't do something about that. Best case scenario it'll take several years to make anything happen. So y'know, continue not holding your breath.
>>5370 The Garand would be noticibly harder to make a reproduction of than the M1 Carbine and M14. Before the M1 Carbine, the TDP for guns was loose enough that parts from different factories were not interchangable. There's also the fact that the equipment needed to make a Garand is from a completely different era than what is cheap to do today. It's why a 1911 varies so wildly in quality compared to an AR15. We're not quite at the price for historical Garands where building new ones is worth it and every time we've gotten close, some US ally remembers the ones we loaned them actually belong to us.
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>>5367 Get a good AR-10 variant. Cheap, reliable, and readily available mags. Parts readily available, great aftermarket, good price to performance ratio, solid optics mount out of the box. I'm assuming you want a fighting rifle. But if you're really poor a 308 is a poor choice because the ammo is insanely expensive and you can carry far less on your person. Unless you are specifically trying to punch through car doors and go long range.
>>4526 Poorfag here. Noguns. I live in a bad state. I'm not yet 21 and it's looking like I'm going to be shit out of luck, sadly. I'm hoping I can scrape together some money soon. Get a cheap rifle. Probably a Henry AR7 since it's the cheapest I can legally get, and it'll takedown and fit in a bag since I don't want to have problems with people about it. So I'd rather they not even know I have one. When I turn 21 I'd like to get a RIA M206 revolver. again, really cheap. Bad idea or what? I turn 21 only after election day. So I would rather at least have something before then.
>>5687 If you can, get a 10-22 takedown instead of the Henry. It's a lot more versalite. A .38 revolver is a great choice but you can probably just get any old used one that's in decent shape and feels solid. Doesn't have to be that specific model. If you are getting the M206 for conceal, go for the spurless if possible.
>>5687 >RIA M206 Pretty sweet. Just know that RIA sometimes contradict themselves when the +P question comes up. Common sense would say that yes it could handle +P but not consistently the same way a classic gun from long ago could probably but you wouldn't want to fuck one of those up, which realistically wouldn't matter since the 206 is about blasting it in anger and then forgetting about it in the evidence locker while you go ogle some other new guns.
Bought a redhawk early this year along with an SLR106, overall bretty good
>>5367 A ptr is probably best bang for your buck in the battle rifle market. Ar10s are good nice too and if you can afford 6.5creed it's a tack driver. >>5687 A ruger 10-22 is probably the best .22lr option. Getting a child sized .22 bolt action is unironicly a solid option for an extremely light and small rifle that will kill as good as any other .22lr.
As someone who was a lazy faggot/had more immediate needs than funs/was stuck in a blue city with zero funs shops until it was pretty much too late, reminder that you can still at least try to defend yourself without funs. Bear repellent spray, demo tools from your local hardware store, and guerilla-tier improvised firearms are less than ideal, but if shit really does hit the fan it could mean the difference between life and death. If you buy predator spray remember to buy some token camping gear to go with it, otherwise the pigs may give you hassle if you use it against a "proactive looter" because you obviously bought it to hurt people.
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Recently got a Type-81 LMG. Overall fit and finish is better than the rifle, but that's not saying too much with Chicom stuff. Some of the machining on the LMG bolt(the one with the black box) is rougher, and I also don't appreciate carving the serial number into the bolt lug, but it has smoother travel than the rifle. The rifle recoil spring is a bit better imo, I find it's easier to take off the dust cover. However the dust cover on the LMG is tight, whereas the rifle's rattles slightly. Triggers are similar. The carry handle isn't as stiff as I'd like, but after using it I don't feel like it's weak.
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>>7389 Don't look too shabby.
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>>5367 >does anyone know where to find a fucking M1 that isn't overpriced rack grade bullshit on gunbroker? Because fucking election cycle + covid sold this shit out faster than KFC in detroit Not going to be any time soon, but... https://archive.vn/wip/doCbJ
Are high capacity meme guns any good, or should I just get more common weapons and invest in lots of magazines?
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>>7566 The PS90 is pretty cool. I don't know of the 1216 shotgun, I think mag fed shotguns are kinda meh because you need to take out the mag to top it off when with tube fed you can just top it off whenever, unless you are doing a swift raid where you need to pop off as much rounds as fast as possible. I don't think the Calico is any good. Maybe get a Magpul D-60 for your AR and then reload with standard 30 rounders after. Thats what my setup is right now but there is a lot of different ways to fill in this problem.
>>7566 I've always though P90s were a really cool looking weapon and the high capacity of its magazine was always really appealing. The downsides of course are that you can't buy a full auto one, at least affordably and the ammo is fairly uncommon and kind of expensive, assuming you buy it in its original caliber, 5.7x28mm. on the subject of that, I actually believe I have seen an upper for an AR that allows you to use P90 mags and 5.7x28mm ammo but for the life of me I can't remember what it was called. >>7567 A lot of people had problems with the calico because they weren't using the proper ammunition. appearently you have to use very "hot" ammo to get the weapon to cycle properly, or least that's what I've heard. Also a question regarding your P-mag, do you have any reliability issues with it? I've heard drum magazines can have that sometimes. image semi related.
>>7569 It works awesome. I had no problems with it so far and I am sure if Magpul releases something, they don't want to fuck up by making it shit. Its pretty bulky but yeah it runs fine. Its not too big either.
Best place to get decent Gen 3 or higher monocular? TNVC has jacked up their prices. Kicking myself that I didn't buy earlier.
>>7569 >>7567 If you can find the original batch produced there was an "issue" where you could inadverdently make it a full giggle by removing a tiny white piece of plastic. Don't do it because ATF will rape your ass like the booty warrior.
>>7569 >I actually believe I have seen an upper for an AR that allows you to use P90 mags and 5.7x28mm ammo but for the life of me I can't remember what it was called. The AR-57, apparently. I can't tell if this is some kind of elaborate joke, or if this is a real weapon. How the fuck does this even work, why the hell are there two magazines?
>>7582 It ejects out the magwell, the last pic is a brass catcher. Yeah you could totally streetsweep with that and not leave brass behind.
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>>7582 I think the mag's guts were removed so you can probably run it with subsonics and a suppressor, then use a empty mag as a brass catcher. It sounds like a really cool concept really. But I think they stopped making the AR-57 because of how unreliable they are. They only ran with their line of magazines and FN's line of mags, other aftermarket mags didn't work properly. I think they also spiked up in price because again they stopped making them.
Are the P90 and those Hera Stocks really that comfortable to hold as some people suggest?
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>>7389 I was going to get one but decided to wait until the morning after i got the email from tactical imports. It was already too late by then. How are they? Did you get the drum mag? Since they sold out and the type 81 rifles aren't being brought in anymore I was thinking of getting a M+M M10x, know anything about them?
Have any of you been able to get primers locally? They are the only thing I've been lacking for weeks
>>7628 Front heavy.
>>7628 Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but the bolt runs smoother than on the rifle. People have been getting the same minute-of-man that the rifle has. I did get one drum, but only for the look since >5 rounds for $200 The internals look retarded, but the next shipment of LMGs is going to have the proper parts that were replaced, which TI is sending to anyone who bought a drum and wants them. Don't know anything about the M10X other than the snafu over the first imports.
>>7584 >>7582 What does the AR57 weight while loaded?
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Since I've got guns already, I bought some vitamins, black beans and dried bell peppers (more for variety) in case Biden's goons stage a really big riot after election results enough to disrupt supply. Already had some basmatti rice I barely use (I prefer my Nipponese rice) and various canned tomatoes and other stuff. Recommend me some recopies for taco filling I can make with it in a slow cooker (I've got powdered milk, powdered cheese and sodium citrate, so I can make a cheese sauce)
Streloks, I need advice. I live in a nofuns country but I've been working on getting a pistol license, and I'll finally have it soon. I've wanted a CZ 75 as my first pistol ever since Rally shilled it hard to me, but with the way shit's going I'm considering a Glawk 17 or 19 instead, which are the local military and police service pistols. On the one hand all guides say to avoid snowflake guns for SHTF, and CZs and their parts are already more expensive to get where I live, but on the other hand I know my heart just won't be with it if I get a glawk. Which fun would you recommend?
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>>7747 I can only vouch for the CZ being an owner of a BD. If you buy it then you'll also need to replace the firing pin retaining pin with a solid roll pin instead of their hollow factory one because the hammer will eventually push the firing pin through it. Thus why you need a solid one to keep the firing pin from launching out the back into oblivion. Assuming thats the weapon youll be maining for some time you should also buy as many mags as you think is necessary at the same time as every thing else you should purchase for it. That being said CZ doesn't make wonder weapons or caters to poorfags. Get a cheap semi auto .22 cal rifle over a pistol and if not then prefer to have a compact size pistol over a full size in 9mm or lower being your cheapest bet. SCCY may be a better option or even Walther but i wont speak much on weapons Ive never shot.
>>7752 Thanks for the tips. I already own a 10/22, a .308 bolt action and a 12-gauge. Didn't know about the retaining pin, looks like the same applies to the SP-01 which is the model I was looking at.
>>7747 both are pretty gay, but if i could only have one i would get the gun that i would be able to repair and would have more utility and available parts.
>>7747 GO with what your heart wants. If parts are a concern, buy a parts kit, buy a few if you're paranoid. I don't get the emphasis people place on guns with easily available/cheap parts. As long as you don't buy garbage guns, or surplus that has seen countless rounds, nothing on your gun will break until you hit the high thousands round count. The only time you'd ever fire that volume is peacetime, and at that point you have access to parts. During SHTF, not only is ammo conservation is paramount, but avoiding fights altogether is the single most effective way to survive one. At that point you shouldn't be shooting so much that you experience breakages, unless you're looking for trouble. In that case, you'll likely die before hitting those numbers anyway.
>>7754 >>7756 Thanks streloks, I'm going to stew on this for a while.
>>7747 Get a rifle before a pistol, but if you must have (or can only get) a pistol then the glock is by far the better choice if you're concerned about parts availability in your area in a SHTF scenario since you could just kill a zogbot for spares, but I can tell you that CZ 75s are very nice guns, though the slide is thinner than most other handguns so it's a little weird to pull on it if you have large hands. Take some time to seriously assess how likely you think a shitstorm is to happen in the next couple of years and decide accordingly. Either way won't be a wrong decision, glocks aren't the hand grenade meme pieces of shit they used to be and they're also pretty comfortable in the hand I think. There's no external safety outside of the lever on the trigger though, so take that into consideration if you're not very experienced with firearms and aren't comfortable with carrying when you have a round chambered.
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>>7747 >>7767 GLAWK brand GLAWKS are the greatest guns ever made and anyone who says otherwise is nigger who hates being able to easily repair and maintain their gun, getting cheap reliable FACTORY mags, mount lights/lasers, or having a wide selection of sights both normal and tritium, and just all around being able to make the gun fit their needs. They talk shit about GLAWKS because they have mental diseases like being a hipster or more likely being a homosexual. wish they'd cost about the same as a beretta apx though That being said you cant fix a cucked glock mag without buying from 10/30 mag makers who charge ~5 dollars higher than a factory mag and then drill out the shitty rivet then dunk the mag body in hot water to weaken the epoxy sealing assuming you live in a state that requires the belt and suspenders setup. A CZ Mec-Gar mag is about the same price as a glock factory mag (~26 burger coupons) and are available in restricted forms that only require a few minutes of dremel tool work to make them standard capacity (they also hold 17 rounds).
>>7934 Anyone who praises the glock is a nigger who probably has never refered to it by it's proper designation, instead substituting >gat >piece >problem solva or, if pressed >Glawk Fawty
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No funs poorfag in southern commiefornia here. Need some recommendations on stores or websites and what to buy for the incoming happenings. Wanna get a rifle and a pistol at least. I wanted to wait till i moved out of state to buy but life hasn't worked out well for me since i made that decision and because of an accident I'm no longer confident in my physical ability to protect myself.
>>4526 Been buying a selling stuff all year slowly upgrading
what's the absolute maximum I should be paying for home-defense shotgun shells right now? I'm being told $25 but I don't trust boomers
>>8463 $25 for how many rounds and what brand? Federal Premium 00 buckshot where I'm at is almost $3 a round. You might be able to find okay deals with gunbot.
>>8285 Hello faggot. What part are you in? City of Burbank has magnolia blvd that has 4 gun stores. The streets gun store fronts have been plastered all over the internet especially on news articles about panic buying and the stores were usually able to stay supplied even during the start of the riots though expect mostly revolvers and 22s. However I don't know how well they're doing now since they will still occasionally look like those pictures even after a few months of rioting. American gun works in Glendale had a few ARs for sale with crappy aim sports optics but no irons, I don't know the brands or pricing but they seem to either trickle in or they were putting them together in the back room themselves. They did have a nice stock of 10/22s and buck mark rifles but don't expect to find much in the way of 22 ammo besides 22 short or rat shot. There were also some 32 caliber H&R revolvers which funnily might be the only real affordable ammo you might still be able to find Moving further north towards Santa Clarita there is Oak Tree Gun Club however they have a full on sun shade covered line up area with benches and likely attract tons of potential buyers so you may not have much luck there. further north of Oak Tree is Stevensons ranch which has Adams armory, a small gun shop with an ass load of Streamlight lights and last I checked a small handful of ARs but this was months ago and their pistol situation looked pretty bare. Moving to the east would likely be worse since it's a little less an urban shit hole with people who likely have some brains that would actually buy. Bass Pro is so fucked they no longer create a line to put your name on a preorder list. They just let you walk into the front entrance and you put your number down with a vague description of what you want and that's that. I have no other info on other stores in San Bernardino or Rancho. Neither do I have much info on the antelope valley area besides Rosamond which has Karls hardware and they're pretty boned as I'd imagine most others in the area would be since there's probably only the AV pawn and gun and a Turners to service that area. San Fernando has about 2 shops and a turners and is probably like Antelope Valley in terms of customer to supply ratio. If you're really desperate there is a store named 1776 supply in Hesperia that sells black powder revolvers and 80% kits. Or you could buy them online which luckily still has tons of sources for gun parts and build kits but good luck finding anything that isn't a 9mm slide even if you were trying to build a .40 smith pistol which might still have some ammo to buy at a reasonable(ish) price. Overall black powder is not totally raped but if you need percussion caps bass pro/cabelas still has good supplies online but expect to pay nearly 10 dollars per tin of 100 and the additional hazmat fees. Buying in person at a place like Angeles reloading store would be better to avoid hazmat fees and they don't seem to be running out of CCI 11 caps or Hornady round balls. Besides the usual buy from Buds, Classic Firearms, PSA, Preppers, and Atlantic there really aren't a whole lot of CA friendly online places to buy from making ARs or AKs CA legal is usually something they normally would do but most online shops are not wanting to waste time putting rivets into shit just to sell to a CA fag when there's already a guy waiting for them at their door with a wad of bills in hand you could try to buy a stripped AR lower and build. That then depends on the gun shop being willing to deal with processing an out of state firearm, receiving a package with just one lower, and going over some other stuff for about $70-$100 profit in transfer fees when they could sell a $1,000 1911 or AR to a desperate formerly antigun boomer with cash to spare for $2,500. >>8463 These are Pre fun times prices how I remember them note I'm a cheap ass that never really bothered with federal flite control or other fancy/specialized ammo types just regular lead so I wouldn't know about those $25 for 25 00 buck ~$5-$6 for 25 bird $6-$10+ for 5 slugs depending on use basic lead slug closer to the $6 mark but usually around 7 or 8 when not bought at a Walmart, specialized sabot solid copper deer blasters could reach $30 for 5 rounds
>>8467 Shit i restarted firefox and forgot i never reopened this tab soI it didn't auto refresh and i didn't notice the reply. I'm in orange county, Santa Ana specifically. Is this ar15 a good deal for $639 + the $89 CA compliance kit? And the cheapest FFL transfer fee near me is $45 https://atlanticfirearms.com/products/radical-firearms-ar-15-5-56soc-w-15-fcr Does this count as a long gun? As i understand it for long guns you need a hunting license or a firearms safety certificate. I don't know if i can just go to the shop pass a background check and pay for my gun and be good to go. I'm not super knowledgeable on guns frankly, I watch hickock45, inrangetv, and forgotten weapons sometimes but that's about it. Is there CA info graphic or something breaking the laws down or do i just go to a shop and annoy the shop keep and have him spponfeed me?
>>8627 Opsec you absolute nigger. County location is enough Not a califag here but my understanding is that >you gotta be 21 >can't be an "assault weapon" Check Penal Code 30510, PC Penal Code 30515 PC >Not a felon >not having been convicted of stalking, per Penal Code 646.9 PC,battery, per Penal Code 242 PC,brandishing a weapon, per Penal Code 417, and, making criminal threats, per Penal Code 422 PC in the last 10 years IF you can afford to spend money on garand and sell your soul my understanding is that the CMP sells garands and if you pick it up out of state they don't get added to the CA registry and if you get caught oh boy they will throw every other charge at the book since apparently this is a grey area >spoiler not related picture for shitposting If you have access to a lathe and some time you could probably make your own (hypothetically ofc). I remember that there was a CA fag in the ye olden 4cuck days who made a mac 10 clone and his own STG 44. Hide it somewhere with deniablity because unless your a black gangbaning nigga the cops will spread your ass.
>>8220 Instead of bringing up the things niggers say and do, explain exactly why you don't like glocks. Here are the things I don't like about glocks: >finger-grooved molded grips, which they fixed with gen 5 >Doesn't come with night sights out of the box for the price >Ugly Aesthetics
>>8627 RF is a texas based low to mid tier manufacturer and that upper looks like something I'd pick up back in 2015 during a black friday/cyber monday deal for 200 and some change. Quality wise the only real issue with RF issues that don't require a replacing that you might as well get another rifle is thier floppy free float rail designs that love sucking in heat to break down the loctited screws so make sure you slather that shit on. Also their BCGs are fail usually at the cam pin and their bolt heads are on par with other el cheapos (~1500 maybe more rounds) I'm on the shitter right now so my explanation of AR quality ranges will be kind of jank. Most cheap ARs can have their fuck ups (current and future) fixed by using a minimum of tools and or swapping out the BCG for a quality one like BCM, Daniel Defense, LMT whatever. Barrel wise most guns will let you slap shit at 100 yards with a bit better than minute of man accuracy (the kind of accuracy that's good enough for govt. work) however you probably won't be passing that barrel down to your kids. Generally for max durability, reliability, and longevity you want a chrome lined barrel by a reputable manufacturer since they won't cut corners by chroming then drilling holes afterwards and also they'll have the bore diameter set to compensate for the thickness of the chrome lining. Cheaper chrome barrels will be off a bit in bore and chamber since it's probably the same shit they pull off the line that would have been nitrided "hey bob just slap me some chrome in there don't matter if its flaky or slightly to thick" this is likely why chrome had a bad rep with competition guys for being inaccurate. Nitrided barrels will fulfill 99.9% the requirements for a civvie just with a bit shorter life span People change their $1000 smart phone when it gets slightly too old I'm sure they can afford to slap down $150 or even less for another cheap blaster barrel. Meanwhile uncle sugar needs money to go to the f35 so he's gonna make sure the 20 something year old squeezes every bit of life out of that jank old M16 during training. Buy once cry once types also approve of $300 chrome barrels too because they're GOOD Nitriding like chrome creates a hard wear resistant layer but instead of adding a layer it makes a few microns deep of barrel surface into the hard wear resistant surface. They're not so great at wear resistance when heated up though like when firing in full auto bend a piece of sheet steel into a coat hook shape to make your gun go faster and cook your barrel :^) but when firing in semi auto they're just fine. The rifle itself would only really need a bolt head swap assuming the gas key tube part on the carrier itself is staked on properly and doesn't have what looks like casting lines cast lines means MiM parts but MiM isn't necessarily shit but I don't trust an outsourced indian factory to make that properly. The trigger will be a bog standard milspec thing so expect anywhere from 5 to 8 pound trigger pulls. It's not bad but not great and if you get into this thing you could always cannibalize it for parts or just keep upgrading it until you have enough parts to have 2 ARs. CA firearms certificate are retard easy and my last attempt I missed 1 answer because I bubbled in the wrong answer accidentally. It's about 30 questions and assuming you've been paying attention to the safety bits hickok or whoever talks about before shooting you'll probably be good while keeping in mind that CA has anal rules about firearms and ammo storage as if anyone actually follows those rules but pay attention to child safety sections which are almost direct copies of the NRA child safety guidlines. Walk in and ask to take the test (but it would help to flip through CA DOJ safety rules on their website) and do it quickly. Honestly you will probably be more memorable and make better friends with the shop guys if you walk in know some shit already and get out due to every former anti gunner now coming in asking every question there could ever be about choosing a good gun or why the $100 box of 380 ammo don't fit in their newly bought well used 38 special revolver.
>>8638 Yea county should be good enough but i don't have a car to easily get around and use a VPN and its not like I'm trying to do anything illegal here. Just want advice on buying my first firearms from an authorized dealer and get my firearms safety certificate. Never broken a single law so far in my adult life and have been past 21 for quite a while now. Just need the cash and certificate. >>8653 I can't tell you how many times i read this post and failed to understand the specifics on the gun components and abbreviations. May as well be moonrunes to me. I took the test quiz and got 3 wrong and 1 was an accident clicked the the wrong one but its a 75% you need and i scored 86%. So should i buy this one or see what they have in stores? The gist of your post as i understand it is you get what you pay for but you can upgrade it in the future for the subpar parts.
>>8674 >The gist of your post as i understand it is you get what you pay for but you can upgrade it in the future for the subpar parts Yes especially now that beggars can't really be choosers even if you save your bills. My main concern is based around replacing the Bolt Carrier Group with one of these https://www.primaryarms.com/lewis-machine-and-tool-complete-m16-bolt-carrier-group-556-223 https://www.primaryarms.com/bravo-company-manufacturing-bolt-carrier-group-bcm-bcg https://www.primaryarms.com/daniel-defense-m16-cut-complete-bolt-carrier-group-04-013-19032 or another from a reputable company. And if you want to stick with your rifle replace the barrel with a chromed lined one like this. https://www.primaryarms.com/fn-america-556-nato-cold-hammer-forged-carbine-length-ar15-barrel-government-20 again not necessarily this exact one but it will be priced nearly the same. Don't fall for high end triggers just yet and focus on ammo, the BCG, and some way to aim like a red dot or regular iron sights. side note that the rifle has a carbine length gas system. Assuming you can find another with a similar price check for a MID-LENGTH system as a carbine system coupled with a 16 inch barrel tends to be overgassed as in the recoil will feel harder and the parts are battering much harder against each other however it is something that can be fixed later on when the panic buying prices stop being so rape.
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>>8674 If you're planning to Californicate your AR, you got two methods for "legalities". 1)Maglock +Enjoy your pistol grip, flash hider, and adjustable stock *Some companies offer quick button release systems to improve reload times like Juggernaut Tactical's Hellfighter system but have issues during maintenance or when your rifle gets an FTE -Lose your ability to quickly drop mags during a reload, round stuck in the chamber with an FTE, and if the police don't know about such systems, then you are potentially slapped with assault weapon charges. 2)"Featureless" +Keep your magazine release & bolt release for whatever entails your choice. -Install faggy fins to your rear pistol grip, a fixed stock ala carbine/rifle, no flash-hider unless you use a compensator/muzzle brake then its ok,and no forward handguard mounted pistol grip. Alongside for stores, a couple to check would be RifleGear, Rifle Supply, 80% Arms, Fowler Gun & Room be wary they got a lotta fudd guns like that pristine Husqvarna in 6.5 Swede that I fucking kick myself for not buying, and etc.
>>8692 Just in case you wanted it, here is the video that the image you posted is from
>>8692 Interesting. I've wondered how some people don't have fins on their ARs and i assumed they were legal but had some loophole shit going on. For now I'll stick with fins because I don't really understand entirely and want to have confidence in what I'm doing. Also i wish that guy made more videos, its been 2 years since his last one. Which one of these is the FSC test? I'm not sure which and also can't find whatever material you're supposed to use for study. I want to be 100% confident when i go to a gun shop to take the test. The first one is the one i passed with 86%. I took two other I don't recall which but i did not get a passing score for those although i could probably pass if i retook. Some stupid trick questions and questions I also misread as well as some that were just fucked. https://gotestprep.com/california-gun-safety-practice-test/
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>Beretta 92S with two mags at local shop is $300 >dirty Browning Hi-Power with one is $600 I blame this on boogers and generally people arguing for gun rights that led a bunch of urbanites to get in on it. Never promote your goods to the enemy or make a big fuss about anything you don't like, hopefully we've long learned this by now.
i've noticed a lot of gun stores (specifically the boomers that run them) are incredibly elitist and expect you to know everything about guns when you walk in and are very dismissive/indifferent towards any questions you may have for them. i want to attribute this to the influx of newfags getting guns when they don't know anything about them (similar to when a board dies and they all migrate somewhere else and shit up the place), but even before all this happened they were like this. am i just not allowed to ask questions?
>>8915 >300 for a beretta with two mags That's not bad at all, unless you meant $3000
>>8918 Elitism, elderly impatience, and them not knowing shit themselves. >>8948 It was an old police trade-in from Italy.
>>8956 That's still an excellent deal, unless the cop who used it put tens of thousands of rounds through it (unlikely it's fucking Italy) $300 is beyond good. I've been seeing heavily used Beretta 92s go for $600+ where I'm at, and the brand new ones are in the realm of $900 if you can even find one. >>8918 Boomers in general are like that, the "respect your elders" concept was hammered into a lot of their minds without anyone explaining the context and now they believe "I'm old now so I can treat these snotnoses like shit and not tell them anything" instead of "I'm old now I should teach the newer generations what I know".
>>8908 Been awhile since I took my FSC test but I remembered it being 30 questions involving standard safety procedures with guns, proper storage, & understanding the process to owning guns here in Commiefornia. Plus that testing website fucks with the sentences as if some ESL was writing em.
>>8959 >respect your elders That's because boomers are retards and they don't understand how respect is earned.
Any tips for an entry level red-dot?
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>>8915 >Never promote your goods to the enemy or make a big fuss about anything you don't like, hopefully we've long learned this by now. Very true. Here's a another vice city for the ante. >>8918 I absolutely loathe faggots like that, they don't deserve customers. They deserve contempt and verbal fragging.
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>>10716 I'm pretty happy with the at3 red dot i picked up, it's about 100$ and works well. Feels good, looks good, and still holding zero.
>>10716 I'm quite happy with my Sig Romeo5. It's certainly no-frills but I got it on sale for about 150 so the price was right. Funnily enough it was pretty much zeroed right out of the box.
Any advice on a starter LBE setup? I just purchased my first raifu (a PTR91) and would like some gear to have just in case shit goes down. Was considering a MOLLE belt with shoulder harness, which would give me space for mag pouches, a small first aid kit, a canteen, a basic radio, and other small accoutrements, with a minimum amount of encumbrance. I have a little extra cash from a recent VA disability claim so I can afford to get stuff that'll last. Thoughts?
>>10793 if you're going with a belt and suspenders setup, you can break the purchase up into chunks (main belt, actual belt on the inside, suspenders, pouches, etc) to budget out cash. outside of that, try to find a harness with some MOLLE straps on the front for mounting a knife. are you going to be using this with a plate carrier?
>>10814 Thanks for the tips. I haven't decided yet if I'll be using a plate carrier or not. Would one be a worthwhile investment?
>>10816 yeah, it's nice having the option to armor up depending on what you may be facing. if you don't think you'll be moving around a lot or only for short periods of time having a plate carrier is important- but can't be the replacement to a proper LBE. plate carriers should be treated as armor, not as a tactical mounting solution to strap 6 mags and a pistol to. i'd say it ultimately depends on if you're in an urban/rural/suburban setting. if you think you're in a very high risk environment getting armor becomes much higher priority than level 4 plates in Sticks, Nebraska
>>10746 >>10777 Damn, I wish I could get these things at burger prices. Thanks, anons.
Any good brands for buckshot? Particularly those that will run decently in a mag-fed one. Been seeing nobel sport as a cheap enough option, but not sure if the shells would get squished or hold firmly.
Do you guys figure now is a bad time to try to accumulate the parts to build up an 80% P320? I'm hoping that since the "gun" that holds the trigger parts in place is metal, it will be less mushy that the glockalike I have, which is frankly horrible. Actually on the same kind of topic, is there a place to get an AK parts kit that's worth anything, or do those even exist anymore?
>>10816 >>10818 plate armor is heavy as a motherfucker. You will not be able to effectively move with a full plate setup unless you are seriously in shape and strong. Use a pistol vest for your armor. If your plan depends on taking rifle rounds to the chest, you need a different plan. The only conceivable use of plate armor is for military squads who are working in large teams and for very short periods where they know they are going to be directly exposed to high caliber firepower. It is not conceivable in any SHTF scenario.
>>11578 there's a difference between having front and back plates in a light carrier vs having large-XL plates and side plates+trauma pads. modern level IV multi-curve ceramic plates are only around 5-6 lbs and the weight's distributed pretty well. my setup doesn't weigh more than 14 lbs and it's pretty easy to move around. >yeah as long as you're sitting on your ass regularly go on runs with my plates on even though it's autistic and yeah, it's not comfortable, but nowhere near immobilizing. hence the earlier point; if you don't intend on moving around a lot then it's a good thing to have. no good plans involve armor unless they involve hunkering down and holding some position, such as your sick survivalist bunker or your house that you've bugged into. if you are in a situation that demands armor, have armor that actually works rather than a partial solution. people generally don't plan around taking rounds to the chest period
A good deal or a cause for concern? First time buying guns Take a look at pictures please. I'm a brand new gun buyer. I bought one of these because they were the cheapest and seemed of "good" quality (though I'm not entirely sure what I should have been looking for). Kinda concerned because they were so cheap and he had so many of them, and was also selling Pro Mag magazines for them (which I have now come to find out are shit, right?) Do you think I got jewed over? Should probably specify some things... I'm a brand new gun buyer. I bought one of these because they were the cheapest and seemed of "good" quality (though I'm not entirely sure what I should have been looking for). Kinda concerned because they were so cheap and he had so many of them, and was also selling Pro Mag magazines for them (which I have now come to find out are shit, right?) Do you think I got jewed over? Also, this was in the second half of the second day of a two-day gun show. I figured he would have sold out of these things within the first day at most I can't make out the logo on the right hand rifles to know what you bought, not much info to work with. Did you intend to buy a pistol caliber carbine, because it looks like the guns next to that sign are 9mm? as a disclaimer i can only be so much help though since im an interested britfag rather than an experienced owner, would be nice if an american could post to help you. I'm unable to tell if it's only the PCC or if it's chambered in a standard round like 5.56. Who is the manufacturer of the weapon?
Spamming and EXIF violation, lurk more.
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>>11641 Original OP here. Sorry for fucking up, I was phoneposting with extremely funky internet so it kept fucking up and I couldn't tell if I had posted or not, hence the multiple posts. I'm on my PC now though. >I can't make out the logo on the right hand rifles to know what you bought, not much info to work with. Did you intend to buy a pistol caliber carbine, because it looks like the guns next to that sign are 9mm? as a disclaimer i can only be so much help though since im an interested britfag rather than an experienced owner, would be nice if an american could post to help you. I bought the full-length 5.56/.223 rifle. I don't know the manufacturer, forgot to check.
>>11660 Phoneposting is a good way to get yourself v&'d, strelok. For your own safety, don't post on unsafe devices or on a clearnet connection. Better yet, throw away your phone as they're effectively bugs, providing free geolocation and voice recordings for your local three-letter-agency.
>>11660 >got banned >decided to come back before ban was lifted. Wew lad, most people game admins/irc/dickcord mods would just reapply the ban. There's no strict rule on it on /k/ so I'm not inclined to ban you again because that's counterproductive to discussion. >plebbit tier spacing >sorry for fucking up What are you, a fucking leaf? Don't apologize to me, lurk more and understand the culture and rules here better mate. This board is accepting to all those who follow the rules generally and learn imageboard culture generally. >about the fun. You you could've picked up anything from a Daniel Defense to a fucking blow-up-in your hand cerberus firearm with that info. I strongly suggest you to do more research since spoonfeeding is frowned upon and you would likely break a rule and dox yourself. My guess, looks like a PSA logo, my guess is a PSA AR-15 with 16 inch 1/7 twist stainless steel MOE+ EPT ACS-L, and DI system >pic related is PSA picture and some dumb fuck dumb enough to post it in the customer gallery. Said customer also added scope, forgrip, >3. do not post personal, identifying information. if you are posting pictures of places you've been and shit you own, remove EXIF data, metadata, check for reflections, etc. better yet- don't post your own shit! >original post deleted because I forgot to add #RS
>>11698 >>got banned >>decided to come back before ban was lifted. I didn't even know I was banned. I posted on my phone when I finished at the show, then drove home and checked my PC. >>11685 >Phoneposting is a good way to get yourself v&'d, strelok. For your own safety, don't post on unsafe devices or on a clearnet connection. Better yet, throw away your phone as they're effectively bugs, providing free geolocation and voice recordings for your local three-letter-agency. You're a fucking idiot if you think """opsec""" and """hurr durr no phoneposting""" will save you. (((they))) want you to think you're safe by doing those things. Glowie surveillance is much more far reaching than you think. Look it up. When I realized that, I pretty much gave up on "opsec" aside from taking the minimum measures to prevent myself from being doxxed by other users (which are just common sense). Feds already know everything about me and probably you, and will continue to monitor you no matter how much you care about your "opsec". But that's off topic and a discussion for another time.
>>11723 >You're a fucking idiot if you think """opsec""" and """hurr durr no phoneposting""" will save you. (((they))) want you to think you're safe by doing those things. Glowie surveillance is much more far reaching than you think. Look it up. When I realized that, I pretty much gave up on "opsec" aside from taking the minimum measures to prevent myself from being doxxed by other users (which are just common sense). Feds already know everything about me and probably you, and will continue to monitor you no matter how much you care about your "opsec". But that's off topic and a discussion for another time. Technically this is false but also a sound assumption regarding phones and some other things. The whole point about opsec is not getting on a radar. Tthe fact of the matter is ZOGBots are lazy fags who will only catch the low hanging fruit they also don't have the resources or will to monitor everything and everyone, so they will pull metadata from windows os, from google, etc and assemble it in cold storage and try to categorize it neatly to your ID by IP and other spyware botnet identifiers, which can of course be spoofed to evade detections. By intelligently taking measures on your tech you prevent this from happening. A protest for peace of mind and freedom. Now, actual retards will just say what you said and omit erasing exif, omit using VPN paid with crypto and believe ZOG is this almighty all seeing eye god, yeah well, they want to be and they want to give that impression but it's fucking bullshit. They are in reality so much weaker in this area than you think.
>>11728 What problem do you have with privacy or defensive security? You are just assuming a bunch of things and going "lol everything is impossible so don't even try!!!!!!!111111111" which is not a legitimate way of reasoning. I don't care about elite jew list I don't care jews and glows may hate me LOL, so I won't attribute power to them based on suspicions that they don't actually have. Do you understand what i wrote here? >>11725 While I understand what you write and your assumptions are in essence, somewhat valid, they are NOT TRUE for all in practice. This shit is maximum fear-mode, It's harmful to think and just accept like this without actually knowing exactly what is going on or being able to PROVE IT case in point. But a little paranoia is healthy in jew world no doubt. and as I stated, low hanging fruit will be just that. They have resources for the long hanging fruit, but not for nerds i.e people who have read a little bit and keep up to date. The end. Besides you are taking a defeatist standpoint on this and actually solutions now or methods to protect yourself "does not exist". They do, and you must act accordingly, you are probably just a normie small fry can get away with whatever things whatever they may be. Unless you are that ultra rare super big shot important guy, whistleblower, 2% non-schizophrenic that is really being gangstalked lol.(which you 98% are not) You need to learn about defensive security, clearly for your own good and reassurance, you can start by reading and do an etherape scan right now to see the jist of what is going on in your network. You can then use this information read wireshark, make tcp dump and other things, read from pdf guides or books, whatever. It's not good enough just blurting fear mode out, because it's quite literally not fucking realistic in the way it appears you are writing them.
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I'm a newfag who just picked up a Stag 15 with the fancy hand guard and long rail. Please offer me suggestions on where to purchase optics or sights and what kind of optics or sights to purchase. The primary purpose of this gun is democrat deterrence or elimination within 200 yards
>>11737 >democrat deterrence you don't need iron sights to blow your head off retard
>>11739 ok. I picked up a Sig Romeo MSR + juliet 3 for $250
>>11741 yeah that'll work trying to hit man-sized targets past 200 yards with just irons or unmagnified optics is generally a crapshoot
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>have just under $300 cash >maybe an additional $600 in my bank account that I can afford to spend on other shit and still pay bills >~$700 in bitcoin but getting it out anonymously into cash would be difficult, the only methods are highly susceptible to scams. also want to save it since it's not showing any signs of stopping >debating whether to buy a handgun or stock up on equipment instead >only funz right now is a Winchester Ranger 120 with 100 shells and some birdshot what are my options right now?
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>5.45x39 in stock about a week ago >Now practically disappeared except on gunbroker What the fuck happened? >cheaper than dirt and JG are the only online stores that has stock. I typically use ammoseeker to grab ammo, but does anyone know sites that it does not grab from that regularly carry 5.45x39? On a similar note, I keep seeing Bulgarian spam cans and Ukrainian surplus of corrosive 5.45x39. Anyone know anything about these? I am considering picking some up.
>>11957 savage 320 maybe start looking for ammo now, it's hard to find
>>11959 >What the fuck happened? the entire republican party dissolved
>>11967 Anon, this started before run-offs/capitol storming. I am just wondering if something happened with ammo production on the rusky/ukranian side. Looking around, even .223 and 7.62 from wolf/tula/etc is starting to disappear online.
you guys have any recommendations for which parts I should get to future-proof my AR in case parts get hard/impossible to find in the USA because of our new retarded overlord? The charging handle seems a little chintzy so I already picked up a spare, and I've got a few magazines. Should I get a complete BCG and a headspace gauge? The bolt carrier itself doesn't seem like it's going to give up the ghost like ever, should I just get some parts to rebuild it if necessary? If so, any recommendations? feel free to tell me to fuck off
>>11982 International bulk shipping of heavy objects is SLOW. It's a simple matter of >ammo comes in >people buy it all up >nothing left till the next shipment comes in
>>12530 spare bolt carriers are a good idea, but frankly you're gonna have your barrel shot out before the BCG starts giving you trouble. extra barrels and the actual means to swap them out are pretty important. magazines are easily the most important. get extra springs for them too
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What's a good concealed carry gun? I'm not particular about what caliber. I'm considering between getting a Makarov or buying the parts for my P320 to make it compact.
>>12543 >I'm not particular about what caliber What about round count? I use a P64 because that's the only realistically concealable handgun I have and it fit pretty nicely in my pants pockets before I got myself a holster for it. It shoots 9x18 mak rounds but it only holds 6 in the magazine, and the trigger pull when the hammer isn't cocked is absurdly heavy. Like surprisingly heavy. There's way better options obviously but in my area everything at stores seems to have been bought up and everything at gun shows is absolutely unreal in terms of pricing anymore. As far as I know P64s are still less than $350 despite this, at least the one I saw at a recent show was under that. Also from what I can tell 9x18 is relatively cheap compared to most other rounds at the moment too so there's that.
>>12543 presumably you have trigger time on your SIG, plus ammo and mags. I'd go with that. during the panic I've been focused on fleshing out what I already own rather than buying new platforms. all my airsoft guns now have a light, optic, and sling/holster.
if you guys are buying shit for SHTF don't forget a fire extinguisher

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