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World War III (WWIII) General Strelok 08/02/2022 (Tue) 04:41:42 ID: 73a4d5 No.38489
>China is threatening retaliation for Nancy Pelosi's visit to Taiwan with both sides moving aircraft carriers towards the South China Sea/Taiwan >Russia saying they are already at war with NATO (half-jokingly half-seriously) with sanctions and weapons deployments >Lithuania still being little shits endangering all of Europe after Ukraine >America signed a pact with Israel saying Israel can choose to start a war with Iran at any time and America will come to their aid militarily >Kim Jong-un claiming that North Korea is now ready to deploy nuclear deterrents >Stalemate in India-China talks after 16 rounds of negotiations >Gas shortages which are going to lead to food shortages/famines around the globe >An American administration keen to flaunt their military superiority after the giant flop that was Afghanistan last year while getting militarily embarrassed over the (realistically impressive but politically) lackluster performance of NATO-trained forces in Ukraine >A Russian administration with everything to gain and very little to lose >A Chinese administration holding on by the skin of their teeth amid chink flu lockdowns with elections coming and Xi who's painted himself as "equal to Mao" wanting a third term in office >Japan talking about expanding their nuclear power generation at a time when they are seriously considering amending the constitution to allow nuclear weapons proliferation/a standing army after Shinzo Abe's assassination >Strauss-Howe Generational Theory estimating 2028 as the start of the next "good times" after hard times >Tamamo no Mae still on the loose The world is not in a good place right now and while it may not actually be time for WWIII but perhaps rather a global collapse, the real threat is there that it could spark from a single event much like WWI did. A general thread for WWIII-related discussion, news, and speculation.
Mercouris talks a little bit about Serbia, Ukraine, sanctions, and China all in one piece. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdeBTmhroM8
>>38489 It sounds okay to me
Nothing will happen, you retarded spergs. Chinks won't dare to do shit. >inb4 b-but russia mayne....
>>38492 They might not do anything tomorrow but I doubt they won't retaliate somehow. I'm more concerned about the talks over in India since that's a bigger deal.
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Habbeding soon?
Serbia/Kosovo and China/Taiwan are causing some of the niggercattle to forget about Ukraine lol.
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>all modern CPUs have embedded hardware botnets running mystery meat code with Ring -3 access to the entire system >95% of all modern CPUs are manufactured in Taiwan Could Intel's ME and AMD's PSP possibly contain deadman switches intended to fire in the event of a military escalation between real China and pretender China? I wonder how many bugmen would have a heart attack if their desktop wallpapers were replaced with the Nationalist Flag. Also Flightradar is breaking up and the pretender Chinese seem to be fucking around in the Taiwan strait/ADIZ again.
>>38501 >Chip killswitch I don't think hardware works like that since they build the processing component and not the programmed component, but they should be at that level of keikakudori.
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Oh fugg :DDD
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I can't even get on the website.
>>38492 It's already happening, we may not get WW3 but we're guaranteed long term severe economic suffering at the very least along with the typical consequences of that, your magic overnight armageddon is a delusional expectation. Also general reminder that people were saying catastrophic war would never happen right before WW1 kicked off, that level of arrogance is exactly what causes the situations we're in now.
>>38500 Unless they combine it all together as WW3
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>2019 8/k/ agreed that a PRC-ROK conflict was far more likely than a PRC civil war >prior to the outbreak of the Russo-Ukrainian war many Streloks thought the increased military deployments and escalatory comments were diplomatic dickwaving and posturing with neither side actually desiring a direct military confrontation <
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>Baerbock siding with T*iw*n Oy vey.
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Doesn't seem like the PLAAF has launched any interceptors.
>>38510 SU-35s flying across the Taiwan strait https://twitter.com/Sino_Market/status/1554472894461353985 Big if true
Flightradar24 is down due to traffic
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>Strauss-Howe Generational Theory estimating 2028 as the start of the next "good times" after hard times that seems way too early, i would expect the hard times to continue for at least 100 years
Seems to be a normal landing.
Bugmen BTFO.
Shid wrong image. Regardless it seems those Su-35s didn't get there fast enough.
>Pelosi has landed Chinese Cuckold Party confirmed
>>38519 pathetic
She flew good.
>>38521 >the witch lives damn shame
>>38519 Any goodwill I had towards the chinks has evaporated.
>>38519 I sort of expected the Chinese to take over Kinmen island or some unimportant island that is controlled by Taiwan but not do anything else.
I love USA imperialism now. May the USA grant Taiwan it's independence from the paper tiger menace.
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Looks like slow economic suffering is the route that was chosen lol. The only way the chinks can redeem themselves now is bombarding all the airports.
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>>38524 >didn't shoot her down >didn't intercept and escort >didn't attempt electronic warfare or put holes in the tarmac >didn't shoot missiles into the sea or take some barren rock >did absolutely nothing How is Xi going to argue for a third term now bros??
>>38530 >Taiwan fired the first (warning) shots and scared off Chinese jets patrolling near Taiwan. Nobody has any reason to fear the Chinese.
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>Taiwanese meet Pelosi in ukraine-colored cuck muzzles AHAHAHAHA
>>38532 >China is losing to this. That gets a big 'Heh' from me.
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>PLA announces military exercises starting Thursday, after Pelosi leaves
>>38534 No no no anon you don't understand, Big brain china is playing the long con, they've entraped Pelosi to a rock within striking distance where the moment she leaves 200 J-35s (not a copy of the F-35) will rush in with their mach 20 A2A missiles and blow her wrinkly ass out of the sky while the three carrier groups watch on in shock as the new BIG DONG ICBM missile closes in on them, signalling the collapse of the American empire.
>Communists fail That shouldn't be surprising, but somehow it still is. Red China goes in the cuckshed for good.
>>38535 I know you are just reporting the news, but I have no better place to say this >This ricenigger cope.
>long list of reasons why nobody has the money to wage a retard war >this is why there will be a big retard war! We've been getting steadily further and further away from the possibility of a WW3 from the highpoint of maybe seeing hilary in office onwards America doesn't have soldiers to fill boots on the ground, and if there was a draft the civil war would instantly come to a point. Europe's burnt through almost all of the warchests in the region and the only people logistically capable of waging a foreign war are the humanitarians currently embedded in ukraine who are constantly pushing for peace talks. One of the moron south asia nations like indonesia or pakistan might boil over but unless we end up in some surreal situation where fishpeople with 1920s technology invade an australia with no navy probably it'll be nothing more than some local genocides nobody cares about (again). Between the stifling of ukrainian/russian aid and china dissolving I wonder what's going to happen to the african hordes currently being nursed on gibs
>>38535 If China's "military exercises" aren't an actual deployment for their forces then they've brought dishonor on themselves, their families, and their cows. >>38541 While this is true, never underestimate a failing major economic power that's been backed into a corner and the suicidal lengths they will go to in order to maintain power over others. China, Russia, and America are like cornered animals at the moment.
>>38500 Well this is the perfect excuse to dump the shitshow in Ukraine and refocus the attention and anger elsewhere. In fact it may be their entire calculated intention with Pelosi's trip. >inb4 WWIII is caused by political dog wagging
>>38542 It might have been a ploy for such a shamefur dispray to happen on Xi's watch to justify turfing him
>>38541 >I wonder what's going to happen to the african hordes currently being nursed on gibs Meet your new neighbors! Nah, they'll just go back to fighting over scraps with bands of marauders and no real central government to speak of. Nigeria might actually keep its shit together, but the central nations are only held together by foreign aid.
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>>38542 >While this is true, never underestimate a failing major economic power that's been backed into a corner and the suicidal lengths they will go to in order to maintain power over others. China, Russia, and America are like cornered animals at the moment. But they aren't failing major economic powers. China has never been relevant and stopped growing in mao's own lifetime, russia isn't failing, and the US federal government are not the states from which their economic power has historically arisen. It isn't a case of dying powers lashing out before they lose the power to project themselves overseas. They already lost that power and are losing the illusion. In terms of people who can afford a war, there's pretty much the natural resource rich north europeans and the russians, and a war is very much against their interests. If the US federal government lashes out it'll be against it's own the american people.
>>38541 Lack of resources and manpower isn't a guarantee that someone won't start shit, but yeah WW3 doesn't seem to likely at the moment.
>>38541 >I wonder what's going to happen to the african hordes currently being nursed on gibs Believe it or not most African nations don't have an IQ problem they have a Communism/Gun Control problem. The parts of Africa that allow guns and dislike communists (such as the Russian-backed areas) will survive and perhaps thrive while the largely Western-backed communist shitholes reliant on gibs won't do so well. Countries like Senegal will be where the real toss-up occurs.
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>>38489 >muh wwiii >muh collapse Nothing ever happens, faggots.
>>38550 I bet you were saying the same thing before the Ukrainian war, faggot.
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>>38551 highly likely
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>>38551 >>38552 >ukrainian war You mean the small regional conflict that's not even the largest regional conflict atm? The absolute state of /k/. No wonder these fags see muh WW3 everywhere.
>>38527 Oh god imagine china embargoing usa, entire west would turn into africa overnight.
>>38555 Well then there's no better time to do it than now. And there never will be a better time. Yet all I'm seeing so far is Taiwan putting the Chinese paper tiger into the cuck cage where it belongs. Neither do I believe that Russians and Chinese are alike enough for me to draw parallels between the "nothing" that was before the Ukrainian war, and the nothing that goes on now with Taiwan.
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>>38550 >Shit is going down this is a speculation thread >"OH MY GOD WHY ARE YOU INSISTING IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD STOP DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW!" k.
>>38551 >Ukrainian war, Yes and literally nothing happened. Some ukranians and russkies killed each other in the middle of some irrelevant mudlands, who gives a shit. Syria had more kino webms at least. 99% of people wouldn't have even noticed Ukraine if not for the media attention and 100% of people wouldn't have even known Pelosi was going to Taiwan without media shilling. It also doesn't help that fags like you come up with a new end of the world every fucking week.
>>38561 >Muh /k/ino But there's been plenty of /k/ino it's just nobody is spoonfeeding you. If /k/ino is how you define a somethingburger then you're part of the generational problem of having a short attention span and demanding instant gratification for everything.
Interesting how this thread immediately drew a bunch of retarded faggots.
>>38563 >Drew in Nah, >Current Thing always drags in retards. It would have just been in the Ukraine thread because people use it as a WWIII General China thread if this one didn't exist. It did its job of containment.
>>38563 People got burned out on the word "happening" being used to describe fucking everything and destroyed their ability to look at the broader retarded picture that is geopolitics. That and/or none of them have ever looked at historical clusterfucks and paid any attention to the years and decades leading up to them that mirror what is going on nowadays. It's tiresome but that's how it is.
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>>38573 >destroyed their ability to look at the broader retarded picture that is geopolitics Most people never had any to begin with. Not in my lifetime, anyways. Soundbites and talking points define the average retard's world, and have since at least the 1980s if not much longer. I've even tested reasonably "smart" normalfags from time to time, deliberately using unfounded arguments just to see if they'd even have the initiative to pull out their goddamn phones and check me, for instance. Who was it who said something to the effect that five minutes of conversation with the average voter being enough to disabuse one of the notion of democracy?
>>38575 Churchill.
>>38575 I'll care to pay more attention when countries stop pussing out and then calling doing so things like "geopolitics" and "playing the long game." Now I suppose here comes the part where you tell me something that amounts to it's better to be a living slave than a dead lion. And you'd be right. Now, if only you'd stop trying to spin pussing out into some kind of super secret fun time international strategy.
>>38553 >>38561 >nothing is happening The war itself has become boring since the initial failed blitz toward Kiev, but that's not why it's a happening. It's because of the geopolitical situation that has formed since the war started. The impotent sanctions against Russia, the European energy shortages, the food shortages in the third world, as both nations exported food and fertilizer, and NATO ironically growing larger after the invasion are all pretty relevant and important for us.
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>>38576 Thanks bro. Sounds like him, now that you say it. >>38581 Dude, what are you even going on about? All I said was that the average person tl;drs global events; I don't even see how that's controversial. What's all this shit about slaves and kitties got to do with it?
>>38583 He's upset he didn't get his overnight happening and now he's having a conniption fit over it. He will probably proceed to start niggerpilling too.
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>>38585 Oh, okay. Spergs gonna sperg, I guess.
>>38541 With people as hateful as you I'm glad those people are flooding your country.
>>38541 >Between the stifling of ukrainian/russian aid and china dissolving I wonder what's going to happen to the african hordes currently being nursed on gibs few people discuss the africans and middle easterners. UN has alot of control in those countries..
>>38535 apparently Taiwan has been blockaded , the Chinese won't allow any seafood, fruits and veggies imported inside the island
>>38592 >UN >in control of Africa lel Africans only understand overwhelming brutal force and gibs, and neither of those have ever permanently stopped any of them from starting constant civil wars.
>>38602 If it's an actual blockade cutting off chip exports the US is going to be on their case
>>38609 China haven't banned Chips but sand has officially banned sand from Taiwan. It's been signed into law
>>38610 the reason for banning sand is because China is worried about concrete being made and built in the island so I am not sure how much of it affects computer Chips manufacturing factories.
>>38612 IIRC you need the same silica for chip manufacturing as for brick-making (it has specific material properties and isn't the same as sand randomly lying about) so it affects both.
I'd expect China's 'live exercises' to go 'live live'. They're not moving that much hardware for a display of force. To move it back without using in action would lose face. As we knew when Russia's exercises went 'live live' in Ukraine - China has only two times in the year for best conditions to move on Taiwan AND OTHER ISLANDS<----Take note!. One was when Russia went in, and the other is approaching...
>>38618 Is this where the two more weeks posting starts?
New world Econ is making videos on Taiwan in case anyone is interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7sAIbKEzQw
what would the lyrics to "We Didn't Start The Fire 2" be?
>>38619 They should have invaded right now. If they wait much longer the opportunity will be lost. You could maybe justify a an early November invasion right before American midterms in preparation for the food crisis, but I don't think that will go so good. China's only other chance would be if they know NATO will invade Ukraine.
>>38622 It got made almost a decade ago.
>>38626 omfg ur gay
>>38619 Two more weeks
>>38619 14 more days
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>>38619 >>38624 >>38630 >>38631 >Why you flanking me? >What are you talking about? >What the fuck you think I'm talking about? You got us on three sides! wind-river.jpg
>>38557 Poor man's version of the /intl/ documentary?
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When was this board invaded by a bunch of alarmists? Nothing's going to fucking happen, you monkey-brained nignogs. These kinds of knee-jerk reactions and tensions are nothing new. Some anons really should get their hands out of their asses and focus on self improvement instead of obsessively scouting jewtube channels, news articles and telegram posts all day.
>>38635 >nothing's going to happen And did this nothing's going to happen with you in the room on Feb 24th anon?
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>>38522 Why? We can hope for more random transparency moments. On the level of "glass of water with letter D", at least. >>38530 >didn't shoot her down Why? Pelosi isn't a nuclear weapon. It's not a Cuban missile crisis 2.0 either, it's but another instance of bullshit piling up. It's all posturing. They were out-bluffed this time, oh well. I expected some sort of embarrassing sabotage TBH. But then F-35 were grounded. Organizational self-sabotage? > How is Xi going to argue for a third term now bros?? In his native language. And all 102% of the voters will agree with his points. >>38549 While those dealing with China... become invisible.
>>38637 >Why? Pelosi
>>38636 Why respond? Anything but total indifference is "alarmist" to retards like that and he has nothing to contribute to the thread anyway.
>>38636 A regional conflict in some eastern european bunghole is not a "happening". The actual "happening" is the overblown reactions and posturing from Western Europe and America, and that will actually have significant consequences for ordinary people (especially Krauts), but it won't explode into a world war. A civil war in America is far more likely in the current scenario and admittedly, that would lead into a world conflict as other countries would quickly step in, but everything else has been nothing but posturing from governments who don't know how to react when things don't go their way despite repeated warnings and who are actively hostile against their people. This whole debacle might as well be the biggest social experiment ever conceived, because apparently, manufacturing a pandemic was just testing the waters.
>>38637 >It's all posturing. Pelosi is a Chinese owned asset. If China attacked Taiwan without cause they would lose face. China needs a casus belli to save face. Pelosi's visit was to give China the casus belli required. >2022 and anons still haven't worked out politicians like Xi & Pelosi are on the same team - not yours. Other reasons: Demographically China has to make use of the extra men now or never. (Similar to Russian demographics favoring their 'special operation'). Largest navy in the world, so the 1990s "million man swim" is no longer a joke. Internal political and economic conflicts can be soothed by swapping it for an external enemy/conflict.
>>38642 >the Chinese navy
>>38637 >Pelosi isn't a nuclear weapon. It's not a Cuban missile crisis 2.0 either Reminds me of video related.
>>38642 >China has the US by the balls and it doesn't matter that's why they screech and get mad and run around then do nothing when an alcoholic old lady takes a plane trip This is the logic of the demoralized, "nothing matters because literally everyone is unified against my views it's all one big plan to get people like me". If all these leaders were really that unified then there would be zero point in the theatrics. Fuck I hate people like you so much, I bet you're gonna say "they do da theaters bcuz da pipo wil rise up!!!!!!" and then when someone says anything about people rebelling you immediately flip flop and go "nothing madders da pipo r 2 dum and docile 2 do anyfing even wen da elites r poop on dem". Fuck you nigger tired of your shit.
Isn't it morning in East Asia right now? Has there been any news so far? Is China making a move? Will they retreat their troops? Whatever the outcome is, they have managed to show the world they are more than willing and capable of taking over Taiwan if they wish. Might not happen now, but eventually, especially if Western leaders continue eating copious amounts of shit. And they won't do a goddamned thing even if China does invade.
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>muh blockade Two more weeks.
>>38659 I'm assuming the green arrows represent commercial ships?
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>>38658 Only the live fire drills news according to American and Russian sources talking about it. Most of the world (other than America, China, Japan, and South China Sea countries) don't give a fuck about Taiwan. Some fun things: >Taiwanese Council is going to diversify exports as a big "FUCK YOU" to China over the fruit/fish import ban >Issuing a voucher for 1/4th of the price of citrus to encourage other Asian countries to buy it >UN has condemned America over Pelosi's visit >G7 has condemned China over their response >Chinese officials apparently insulted Thailand as an undeveloped country for supporting Pelosi's trip >Thailand's response was to laugh at China's face policy because they know their country is shit and don't give a fuck >Taiwan's defense ministry has been hit with cyber attacks >America thinks the military drills aren't going to end ever since it's actually a defacto embargo of the island >China has begun demanding all countries reaffirm the One China Policy
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>>38661 >Taiwanese Council is going to diversify exports as a big "FUCK YOU" to China over the fruit/fish import ban >Issuing a voucher for 1/4th of the price of citrus to encourage other Asian countries to buy it Not at all surprising. As if they were sit around and take it. They would absolutely take it militarily, but that's beside the point. >UN has condemned America over Pelosi's visit >G7 has condemned China over their response More pathetic grandstanding posturing exactly as we've been seeing for over 50 years. >Chinese officials apparently insulted Thailand as an undeveloped country for supporting Pelosi's trip >Thailand's response was to laugh at China's face policy because they know their country is shit and don't give a fuck Why did China even feel the need to insult Thailand anyway? What the fuck did they even do? Bug people are truly below even subhuman vermin. >Taiwan's defense ministry has been hit with cyber attacks Is there anything that makes these 'cyber attacks' unique at all? Don't those happen to defense agencies all the time? I know the bugmen have been supposedly amping up their cyber offense efforts or so they claim. >America thinks the military drills aren't going to end ever since it's actually a defacto embargo of the island There isn't a single living soul in the upper echelons of the American government capable of forward-thinking. >China has begun demanding all countries reaffirm the One China Policy More bugpeople posturing. Most countries don't recognize Taiwan as a sovereign nation anyway. Truly pathetic. This shitshow makes Eastern Europe look like a gargantuan, literary epic. It's almost vomit-inducing. I wonder how history books will cover this shit 50 years from now? "The great drooling monkey, semen gargle fuck up of the 21st century"? All because of a saggy old bitch. Yes, I know the ROC x PRC tensions go back several decades, but to think this entire shitshow is reaching its peak because some woman cannot contain her desire to collude her way into stocks is like an award-winning comedy skit. Enjoy your economic stagnation.
>>38663 Geopolitics is fun isn't it?
>>38664 The most psychotically hilarious thing is that even if China did decide to invade Taiwan, they'd be shooting themselves in the foot because of pic related 1 at >>38661. They'd be bringing not just the world back into the stone age, but also themselves. They think they'd be able to just storm right in and suddenly get a gorillion chinkbux for free like this is some kind of goddamned video game, seemingly ignoring the fact that getting all the manufacturing plants up and running again would take months, if not years, on top of having to deal with impotent Western sanctions. Then again, I can't imagine the bug vermin are capable of thinking ahead like that. Although the West has lost an equal number of brain cells. Besides, if they want Taiwan so badly, it would be easier to simply negotiate with them and turn them into a semi-independent 'special economic zone', or whatever the fuck that means, and maybe not totally fuck it up like they did with Hong Kong, but I wouldn't put it past the cockroaches to mismanage the island into oblivion if that ever happened. I am convinced this is all one big, elaborate comedy skit. There is no way this is real. It's gotta be some kind of social experiment. Maybe that's why anons are betting on WW3 actually happening. It would be preferable to slow rot and stagnation caused by the constant backfiring of geopolitical kindergarten bickering, with little to no signs of recovery. Pooh Bear makes Zelensky look like Napoleon.
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>>38663 >Why did China even feel the need to insult Thailand anyway? What the fuck did they even do? China historically saw all other nations as barbarian tributaries with itself being the centre of civilization as the Middle Kingdom. When Anglos attempted to establish relations with them in the 1700s, that English diplomats refused to make a gesture in the presence of the emperor to beg at his feet was seen as a shameless insult. Thailand refusing to pay lip service hurts their feelings in the same way, and their asking all countries to affirm the One China policy is looking for that same external validation of their superiority and benevolence.
>>38668 In other words, it means absolutely jack fucking shit. Amazing. Is this what "hurting the feelings of the Chinese people" refers to? If that is the case, then I propose we turn this thread into a 'let's laugh at how retarded these chinks are' thread. Beyond pathetic. It's no wonder these 'live military exercises' are the global equivalent of waving your limp, impotent dick around in hopes of impressing or scaring someone, only it turns out Taiwan has been NTRing mainlanders for decades with its harem of chip buyers. Which doesn't mean West Taiwan couldn't actually attempt an invasion, it seems to me they are more concerned with saving face than actually doing anything. The Cuban missile crisis represented a much greater threat of a world war than this shit.
>>38666 I don't think China is entirely worried about that. They can produce 27nm chips just fine which are good enough for 80s/90s-tier computers (basically industrial process machinery), they just don't have the technology for the more advanced 7nm chips used in modern technology which that infographic discusses. Historically China has been invaded via Taiwan which is their primary concern as they ramp up aggression in the South China Sea/Eurasia. If they invade Taiwan they will also invade the South China Sea and possibly India. Xi is trying to paint himself as the new Mao which is backfiring right now because of all the disasters and other shit in China for the last two (going on three) years. He needs to invade to placate the rampant Chinese nationalists who drank the Kool-Aid in order to not get ousted by the vice president who is considered to have about equal power to him (the two went to the other's "main city" during the last elections to act as hostages against each other because they distrust each other that much). This is ideologically driven, but Xi is smart enough to understand the ramifications so he won't do it until China's economy has completely collapsed (incoming since last November when the housing market crisis started).
>>38670 >He needs to invade to placate the rampant Chinese nationalists who drank the Kool-Aid in order to not get ousted by the vice president So, essentially the same principle behind Dems provoking Russia into warfare because they need to have young GOP voters murdered? Anons have been saying that was the plan and so far there are no signs of that ever happening. I can see Poor bear wanting a war to save himself as well but whether it will actually happen is a different story. Do other CCP members and the vice-president agree to a possible invasion as well? Because if not, then can very well throw Xi under the bus if it ever happens by rallying up the people against him, similarly to how the US government would immediately collapse if it ever declares war on Russia or China, or anyone else, really. The only difference is that young chinklings have (i.e., ages 15~25) have been successfully brainwashed Best Korea style into believing the CCP is the ultimate savior and that China is the greatest nation in the planet and can do no wrong, but that is still not enough support for an invasion either way, and if shit hits the fan, these chinklings will try to likely try to dodge a draft or conscription from fear of losing access to their chinkshit casino fake anime girl games. >This is ideologically driven, but Xi is smart enough to understand the ramifications so he won't do it until China's economy has completely collapsed (incoming since last November when the housing market crisis started). I can see it stagnating like post-bubble Japan, but a collapse would still take many, many years. It would take Argentinian levels of total fuckery to collapse the Chinese economy. Like, say, -50% drop in GDP or something. I find it more likely for the US and EU economies to collapse first. Though there is no denying that the days of "China will grow large" are coming to an end. People back in the 70s and 80s were pretty much betting that Japan would remain an economic powerhouse for the foreseeable decades, until the bubble happened. Now, it looks like the same thing is about to happen to China, except they have no Abenomics to prevent the economy from flatlining completely. I admit I am not too knowledgeable on economics, so I'm just saying this based on my layman's observations and comparisons. In other words, my opinion is just as shitty and worthless as the rest of this thread. Of course, this doesn't mean the Chinese economy can't go belly up, just that it will take time. Maybe a decade or two? By that point, Xi will have already been ousted or dead.
>>38669 It's their "face" culture that holds appearances above substance
Apparently a Russian senator is promising support to China should they invade Taiwan and wants to pass legislation through the Duma to secure military aid for China in the event of war.
>>38676 And even still, absolutely nothing is going to happen. Seems he's only doing that as part of Russia's attempts to spite the west and force governments into fucking up more and more.
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>>38677 It's great, isn't it?
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>>38680 >tfw China and Russia win the next world "war" by doing absolutely nothing to their enemies.
>>38676 Senators keep babbling retarded shit all day long. They don't have any say in the matter, only the top brass decides what will actually happen. In other news, in a rather surprising turn of events, Amnesty International actually admitted that ukraine stations their military positions inside civilian objects, something Russia has been complaining about since pretty much February. >Amnesty International accuses Ukraine of stationing troops in civilian facilities. The human rights organization believes that by placing military equipment and weapons in schools, hospitals and residential areas, the Ukrainian military endanger civilians. The deployment of combat positions and firing on such territories turns them into military targets, strikes on which result in the deaths of people and the destruction of civil infrastructure, the report said.
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>>38686 Okay, that's fucking dirty if it's true. "All's fair," but with your own goddamn people?
>>38687 I should probably ask this in the hohol war thread, but how the fuck is Zelensky still in office? Does he really have that much support from the government and the military? With how he intends to continue until every Ukrainian young man aged 15~30 is murdered despite fighting a losing war, you would think someone would try to oust him in order to achieve peace negotiations/find a political solution. What do they gain from keeping him around? Do they really want western gibs that bad?
>>38688 The entire Zelensky junta is controlled by CIA, anon. Globohomo doesn't want to lose its grip on Ukraine as its proxy state, they will "fight" until the last Ukrainian - something Russia has been warning about since day one as well.
>>38688 On top of what >>38689 said, there have been a bunch of purges, even since the beginning. Within the first week or two, one of their main negotiators had his car shot up by Ukrainian troops for being a "traitor", I guess because he was actually trying to negotiate instead of just pretending.
>>38689 >>38690 Why Ukraine, though? It's another slavic shithole. Do they really want to be present at Russia's doorstep that badly? What would they even gain from it? Is it the black sea? The sea of azov? Power for the sake of power? Grandstanding against Russia out of hubris? This whole situation is just bizarre. At least Taiwan is a major manufacturing hub. But I can't see what Ukraine could possibly offer them. Even Worst Korea is more strategically placed and relevant. Wouldn't it be better to keep Ukraine as a neutral/intermediary power between East and West? I really don't get it. The more I think about this, the more it feels like recent history (15 years) was written by some schizo.
>>38687 Have you been living under a rock? Anons were posting videos of Kindergarten teachers losing their shit over Ukraine positioning artillery next to the schools way back in March. >>38688 Ukrainian machismo culture is a hell of a drug, and the old guard want to see him fuck everything up out of spite because about 2/3rds of politicians elected in the last Ukrainian elections had never held power before and they did a massive purge of leadership and non-elected offices on their way in. It's a combination of populists drinking the Kool-Aid and nobody being willing to take charge. It's your classic example of "country votes in a Nationalist party and buys into their own propaganda, biting off more than they can chew with too much ideology to back out." From what I understand there were double digit attempts on his life back in March. At this point every able-bodied man has either been conscripted or has bribed themselves out of conscription. Consider how nobody ever tried to assassinate the leadership of the Khmer rouge while they marched millions of people to their deaths.
>>38687 >but with your own goddamn people? They are goyim
>>38691 >Why Ukraine, though? Prior to the war, NATO had made it quite clear their plan was twofold: >1) Set themselves up militarily in the Sea of Azov to launch a preemptive invasion fo Russia in order to acquire a direct sea route to the Caspian Sea in order to have sea axcess to Iran (before the war this was 70km of land they needed to blitzkrieg and it would have effectively bankrupted Russia by doing so preventing a Russian response as the caucus regions would likely go along with it). >2) Have direct uninterrupted access to Russia to spread gay nigger propaganda because the land separating Kharkiv from Moscow is an open plain/border much like the flat parts of the US-Mexico border
>>38691 >Why Ukraine, though? Why not? Ukraine is right there and Russia has wanted it back for decades and unlike many other Eastern European countries, Ukraine isn't in NATO so it was "up for grabs" for Russia without automatically involving anyone else and the reverse is true as well. Glowniggers can play chicken with Russia using Ukraine as the car without being compelled by treaty to defend them if things go completely sour. >At least Taiwan is a major manufacturing hub. But I can't see what Ukraine could possibly offer them. Well Ukraine is a bread basket region.
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>>38692 >Have you been living under a rock? Yes. Biggest one I could find, in fact, since all the way back in mid-2016. I've only recently reemerged in order to tie up a few loose ends at the last minute.
>>38695 >Bread basket region This is also true. Roughly a quarter of the world supply of grains (especially wheat) come from the geographical region along the Black Sea owned by Russia/Ukraine. Those feed most of Asia, the Middle East, and Africa, but during a crisis Europe buys it too usually.
>>38691 Ukrain is the archetypal "small nation caught between two empires" trope. Ever the buffer zone and the advance launchpad for each. A tale as old as time. Never live in one of those small nations.
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>>38697 I thought this was common knowledge, but apparently people are even more monumentally fucking retarded than even I had recognized. I remember having to explain this to the stupid gynoid cow I was fucking back in like 2015; it was like trying to explain bioengineering techniques to a fucking ant.
>>38700 It was common knowledge during the USSR because the USSR leveraged it to get a lot of countries to unwillingly turn red in those parts of the world, but these days most people don't even know that milk comes from a dairy farm and doesn't just show up at the supermarket because people magically will it there.
>>38686 It is saddening to see Amnesty be so careless in their reporting. A proper report would place greater importance on the undisputed fact that Russia has murdered many civilians, that they rape and plunder wherever they go, as well as present the historical precedences for such actions by the Russian army. This would then serve as an explanation as to the occasional, uncorroborated reports of Ukrainians stationing military equipment in civilian areas: The heroes of Ukraine are determined to fight to the last to keep the Russian hordes away from their families, to prevent their murder and rape and the stealing of all their possessions. Such reporting is highly irresponsible and could damage morale. Amnesty should be thoroughly investigated for Russian agents.
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>>38661 Of course there is but One China. Would be even better if countries reaffirmed the No China policy though. >>38663 >I wonder how history books will cover this shit 50 years from now? The Years of Pointlessness, since most of the shit we've been dealing with is just a Wish.com version of whatever was going on in centuries prior and whatever will happen in the centuries to come. Then again, great events have always been preceded by really innocuous shit (student protests in the Soviet Bloc, the two months of botched attempts at mediation after the death of Franz Ferdinand, the dude who "accidentally" forgot a door open in Constantinople, you name it). >>38666 Additionally they're assuming that they can do to an entire Island Nation what they did to Hong Kong or to chink goatfuckers. The naval invasion will take out a lot of their young, virile men, the inevitable take over will force even more to stay put on the island to pacify the people. Even then, the Taiwanese will probably be shooting each other over the choice of becoming a region of China or liberate themselves, a la Troubles style. And even assuming they manage to completely take over the entire place and its economy with 100% approval, all the other SEA nations will very likely just join whatever US-backed coalition can form just to protect themselves from a hostile nation that has declared time and time again that they have clay on most of the islets around them. >>38688 None of the people in the Ukrainian government have any stake in Ukraine or are natural Ukrainian citizens to begin with. If you thought their former president was a puppet, this guy's the entire children's showplay. >>38692 >From what I understand there were double digit attempts on his life back in March. At this point every able-bodied man has either been conscripted or has bribed themselves out of conscription. Consider how nobody ever tried to assassinate the leadership of the Khmer rouge while they marched millions of people to their deaths. You say that but apparently it backfired hard on them, any Cambodian man older than 40 is treated like a second class citizen exactly because of that.
>>38707 Lmao, fuck off hohol, your "country" is done for. At least everyone in ukraine already speaks Russian so you don't have to learn it.
>>38707 >ukrainians acting like subhumans >get called out for it >but, but, here's a report that Russians raped a dishwasher or something >what do you mean the person who made the reports got fired for lying? >well it could have happened Lmao, fuck off back to twitter
Reminder that this is the WWIII thread and while tangents are fine, there is a currently active thread for discussing Ukraine: >>37583
>>38712 You do realize that thread's anchored right?
>>38713 anchored != reply limit every other thread has hit the limit before a new one was made
>>38713 The "unspoken" rule is either page 3 or 800 replies before a new thread is made, but it's still usable. If anything the bumplocked version of that thread tends to be more fun/more informative since the other "unspoken" rule is that past the bump limit moderation is more lax.
>>38642 Even if it was so? USA and USSR bosses were pretty much in one bed most of the time, yet they had Cold War and it occasionally warmed up. Pelosi and "The Squad" are in the same Inner Party and they are at each other's throats. Power-mongering is never more than one step from tug-o-war, any cooperation is self-limiting and toxic. >>38663 Or simply >There isn't a single living soul in the upper echelons of the American government Just a bunch of mummies, zombies and ghouls. A terminal case of cadre problems, maybe even worse than USSR was near the end. >>38683 >tfw China and Russia win the next world "war" by doing absolutely nothing to their enemies. It's almost like you didn't read Sun Tzu. “The greatest victory is that which requires no battle.” >>38690 Also, he was a part of moneybag fight. https://im1776.com/2022/05/27/servant-of-the-corrupt/ >>38691 > Wouldn't it be better to keep Ukraine as a neutral/intermediary power USA+ can have desire to see "neutral powers" no more than Vatican would when it called shots in Europe. For the same reasons. The goal of unipolar world order as an indispensable part of theology. Convert the heathen, purge the heretic. "World peace" means simply "only one sovereignty left standing". >>38707 The lack of a righteous spin is surprising, but it's rarely a big deal. It can be "debnuked", retracted and forgotten like anything else. Does the Party not own memory holes?
Milquetoast Tim seems to think WWIII is starting: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sS5R5Sblwes
>>38717 /who/
>>38719 Milquetoast Tim. He's bigger than CNN, anon. Literally has more daily views than several mainstream media news outlets.
>>38721 That's not saying much. The average semi-popular video game streamer probably gets more daily views than CNN.
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>>38722 It says enough about his cultural reach.
Any more news? It's already Friday morning in SEA. Did anything come from China's live military exercise? Are they pulling their ships back or keeping them in? Has there been any consequence to today's events at all? Statements? Announcements? Have we all been the victims of yet another fearmongering tactic to distract us from impending economic stagnation? It's truly all so tiresome.
>>38742 I think you fret way too much if this is tiresome to you, it's been nothing but giggle material as far as I'm concerned.
>>38746 I guess the end of the world really will come not with a bang, but a whimper.
>>38742 >Being afraid Unless you are a Burger/Bong in the Navy/Chairforce (or of drafting age), Taiwanese, or a Chink, you should be laughing about this. If you are one of those though, you should be shitting yourself.
>>38750 So it's just like the Ukros war?
>>38751 China has nukes and is in direct conflict with America, so it's a bigger threat. If America doesn't help Taiwan (it's split 50/50 right now that America is egging them into war but will not help, just like Ukraine), then it's a major event for geopolitics but a minor event until 5-10 years down the line for war. America's problem is they set a legal precedent helping Ukraine, but helping Taiwan is equivalent to hypocrisy since their justification for doing so is literally the opposite reason for why they are helping Ukraine against Russia (autonomy of smaller republics against large powers).
>>38742 Xi shot some firecrackers over Taiwan and the Taiwanese learned about it from Japan rather than their own government which had minimized it
>>38753 I am aware that China's a bigger threat. I meant that other countries aside from those you mentioned will not be involved militarily but will absolutely be assraped from every conceivable angle economically, which is frankly what I'm afraid of.
>>38755 >Other countries Maybe India and some countries in the South China Sea, but only if America gets involves. >Economic Assraping Not nearly as badly. The price of computers will go up for about 4 years between more chips being produced in Israel/Germany and America working out the bugs of their chip facility in Arizona, however most countries won't notice a difference. The gas crisis/food crisis plays a bigger role in the raping of the world economy than Taiwan falling to China and making computers/phones more expensive.
>>38748 It's probably not even the end of the world either, I keep seeing fags say shit about horsemen of the apocalypse but the supposed "plague/pestilence" that some of them claim corona was didn't kill even a percent of the global population and so far the "wars" haven't been much more than typical regional squabbles and one overhyped shitfest in a slavnigger hellhole. If the incoming "famine" that I keep seeing people say is incoming winds up being yet another chicken little screechfest I'm going to viciously mock the doomsayers whenever I see them. I really don't understand the it's all over mentality, it's not like the world hasn't been through actual catastrophic shit that almost wiped out multiple civilizations across the globe like the initial outbreaks of the bubonic plague. If we get to that level of bullshit then I'd start worrying, otherwise the only thing new about what is happening is the technology.
>>38758 >If the incoming "famine" that I keep seeing people say is incoming ahaha fuck
>>38758 Nobody is saying it's the end of the world. It's just the start of a New World Order, to use the elites' own words. One involving you eating the bugs and owning nothing, but not the end of the world necessarily.
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>>38758 Yeah, pretty much this; alarmists are, in general, massive fucking faggots. The only caveat I'll tack onto that is that the human and subhuman populations are enormously more vulnerable to a "single point of failure" now than ever in history.
>>38758 >If the incoming "famine" that I keep seeing people say is incoming winds up being yet another chicken little screechfest I'm going to viciously mock the doomsayers whenever I see them. I will join you. I am tired of it as well. It will likely be hard to find some items. Some prices will increase. Poor people might have to be very careful with their money. Virtually no one will starve to death. >>38760 >Nobody is saying it's the end of the world. Tons of people are saying it's the end of the world or it's the Christian last days/end times/revelation. I am a Christian myself and I have looked into the topic extensively and concluded that while current events do loosely tie with events in Revelation and Timothy, there are still a number of factors the Bible says will happen in those days that are not happening. Particularly as the gentleman above said, the total death counts are nowhere close to the numbers the Bible says will die. It doesn't mean that catastrophe couldn't strike, but that a large section of the population has been trained to be alarmists because YouTube channels make a lot of money spreading doom, MSM makes money spreading doom, shekelberg makes money spreading doom, and the all-seeing-eye controls everyone and everything through spreading doom. I for one have had enough doom. Even Yeadon has recently been forced to agree to the truth that we don't even know if "the flu/cold" is caused by "a virus." There is nothing to fear but fear itself.
>>38758 There are alarmists crying doomsday because in a way, it's more comforting to think that way. It's more comforting to think that if things get bad enough, it's all over and we don't have to worry about it anymore, and maybe God will start from scratch or something. It's a lot less comforting to think that none if it is leading anywhere, none of it is conclusive, there will be no climax or finale, and they and everyone else have no choice but to just keep wading through the shit into a future of wading through the shit.
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>>38641 >governments who don't know how to react when things don't go their way How should governments react when things don't go their way, anon? >>38659 What website is this? >>38663 >There isn't a single living soul in the upper echelons of the American government capable of forward-thinking So you're saying they're wrong? >>38694 Source for all of this? >>38716 >Power-mongering is never more than one step from tug-o-war, any cooperation is self-limiting and toxic. Explain. >>38753 autonomy of smaller republics against large powers But Taiwan is smaller than China. As is Ukraine is to Russia. What are you even talking about? >>38761 >the human and subhuman populations are enormously more vulnerable to a "single point of failure" now than ever in history. As Uncle Ted predicted and is still hoping for?
>>38765 >But Taiwan is smaller than China. As is Ukraine is to Russia The Donetsk and Luhansk Republics to Ukraine, not Ukraine to Russia. For eight years the US has been using "separatist" as a dirty word in regards to those regions and saying that it's right and just for a country to fight a war to prevent provinces it claims as its own from asserting independence. Except if China did the exact same thing, the US would be on the complete opposite side.
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>>38765 >As Uncle Ted predicted and is still hoping for? Yes, I suppose, but I dislike that faggot for two reasons. A) He goes the wrong way in searching for a solution; and B) He threw his entire fucking life away for no gain. I dunno if he was MKULTRAd or whatever, as is rumored, but it was fucking stupid, and an abject waste of an apparently pretty brilliant mind. I don't even like reading or talking about him, because he's completely fucking irrelevant but shouldn't be. Mind you, I say this as someone who disagrees with him on a pretty profound level; he *should* be heard. But he never will be. >>38762 >Particularly as the gentleman above said, the total death counts are nowhere close to the numbers the Bible says will die. If you're referring to me, based Christfag, that isn't quite what I meant to convey. I think we're generally on the same page, though: Revelation is on another level entirely. "No man knows the day or the hour", but when the Boss comes to clean house, there'll be no mistaking it.
>>38762 >Everyone is spreading doom Anon I believe in memetic magic, so that is equivalent manifesting doom.
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>>38765 >How should governments react when things don't go their way, anon? Like adults finding the second best solution instead of screaming like children and breaking their toys in a tantrum. >Source for all of this? Shit bro, I was discussing all this back in like the second or third thread, I don't remember any more. Try the archive. >But Taiwan is smaller than China. As is Ukraine is to Russia. What are you even talking about? I worded that weird, so my apologies. The war in Ukraine is about America defending Ukraine's refusal to recognize the autonomy of the LNR/DNR which lead to the confrontation. The war in Taiwan will be centered around America defending Taiwan insisting they are autonomous which is leading to the confrontation. It's entirely hypocritical from a policy/legal standpoint because America is applying the direct and opposite standards to two different countries.
>>38765 >What website is this? marinetraffic
>>38770 t. wumao In both cases, Russia and China are threatening to invade independent sovereign states in naked, shameless land grabs. Russia has already invaded. Russia and China are both aggressors, both in the wrong, and neither has any legitimate grievances. Shouldn't you be going to 4chan and "alt right" blogs if you want to gaslight people with CCP talking points? Hardly anyone even comes here.
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>>38764 If God didn't intervene during the Black Death and the World Wars, why would He intervene in the bitch shit we're going through? Doomdayers are pathetic cowards. Who cares if Sodom and Gomorrah consume themselves in nuclear fire, it saves Him the effort. I bet half the sentiment comes from the post-2016 flood of Qoomers who saw their hopes and dreams crushed by globohomo and fell back on their childhood church sermons about the end of the world as a cope when from the perspective of history they were spoiled for want of nothing.
>>38770 Hardly the same thing. The communist rebels are occupying mainland China illegally and have done so for decades, and now they also want to occupy the last bit of the real government of China. Meanwhile, Russia is grabbing land from a sovereign nation by paying off local traitors to proclaim themselves "independent" so they can consequently join Russia. And the only reason they're in Ukraine in the first place is because Russians deported/genocided Ukrainians and imported its own to control the land during the USSR times. Much like what the Brits did to Ireland. And just like in Ireland, there's no reason to consider their opinions, since their entire point is to control opinion in foreign lands. Not their country, they're just staying there.
>>38778 >The communist rebels are occupying mainland China illegally and have done so for decades The official position of the US government (and basically every other government) is that the commies are the true and legitimate China. >Meanwhile (etc) >the previous posts Oh, never mind. You're one of the people trying to ruin discussion instead of encourage it. That's too bad.
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>>38489 >>38632 >Launch offensive on 6th >Main offensive start on 8th Baizou sleep at weekend >>38489 WW3? It's been known for years. Pics related are years apart, but match perfectly by pure (((coincidence))). fu shitty-pre-post-filtering-scanning-honeypot-server
>>38770 Hypocrisy or not, Russia and China are both opposition to NATO's, precedent be damned. >legal precedent Who's laws?
>>38753 China doesn't have the range to attack America and America doesn't have enough boombooms to destroy all major Chinese cities and military installations. It's a stalemate and the only ones willing to go to war are the Chinks out of fear they won't be able to do so in 20 years' time. >>38758 Famine won't happen in any country that is relevant to the survival of the world, Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs realized that it was pointless to keep the world hungry as they would have just taken it on them and released their grain. Water deficiencies are gonna be huge tho. >>38768 Off topic but did you use to post Komaeda pics?
>>38765 >How should governments react when things don't go their way, anon? Give the people the power to impose orders through referendums with more than just two YES/NO options, using Ranked Choice voting system so you don't end up with extremist fringes feeling left out of the voting process, maybe let the experts (not the scientists meme, I'm talking about farmers, industrialists and technicians) talk in front of the government and try and give them a persuasive explanation of why their Great Leap Forwards won't work. And just maybe, stop letting lawyers become elected officials and just keep the job of politician as its own institution with its own rules, so you don't risk having the Peruvian pencilman commie become the leader of your country.
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>>38783 >Off topic but did you use to post Komaeda pics? I may have posted something by that artist, but I don't think I'm whoever you're thinking of bro. I'm pretty new around here, for one thing. >>38784 Based as fuck actual-technocracy promoter. Let me hear agriculture from farmers, defense from proven admirals and salty old infantry dogs, and power from linemen and engineers. Fuck the (((middlemen))) caste entirely.
One thing I've never understood about China's imperialistic dickwaving is why does anybody other than cucked vassal states and maybe Soviet Bloc comrades so much as pay lipservice to their absurd notion that Taiwan is not a legitimate state? Taiwan is a clearly defined region populated by a clearly defined people and it is not under the control of the CCP nor do any of the people want to be part of PRC. At no point in either country's history has Taiwan been under PRC control so there is no reason anybody besides some butthurt insectoid should think the Taiwanese do not deserve independence from the commies. Same shit with Hong Kong really since the nation that Britain loaned it from no longer exists but unfortunately "Her Majesty" doesn't see it that way.
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>>38787 Because doing otherwise would be much more of a royal pain in the ass. Yes, seriously, that's it. That's all.
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>>38788 You know, I'm starting to think this whole "whining" thing is a better kind of dakka than we give it credit for. How many millions of people had their lives turned upside down just because people didn't want to deal with some bug's tantrum? Not to mention how much real world power the ADL has. Maybe I should make a thread about tactical whining...
>>38789 If it makes you feel any better China has experienced at least two Tunguska style airburst in the past 600 years so maybe good things will come in threes.
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>>38789 I mean I'm not gonna argue with you on that. >>38790 fucking kek, here's hoping
>>38784 >the people the power to impose orders through referendums Referendums are easily influenced and manipulated, and most modern political systems push everything in hardline single issue or extremely bloated omnibus bills. Alternatives are not allowed to exist outside of the regional level, which is where most of he focus should really be. >stop letting lawyers become elected officials and just keep the job of politician as its own institution with its own rules That goes against your idea of letting experts speak. Lawyers are meant to be the most qualified in law outside of judges. While I don't think that only lawyers and other legal-types should have power, they're typically the most suited to understand laws and the backgrounds of them. Stopping lawyers from becoming politicians is like stopping religious students from becoming monks. >>38787 Taiwan isn't recognized because doing so would make business extremely hard in East Asia, and it would cause an international incident.
>>38778 Yes, but Kissinger got America to sign the documents recognizing them as a legal entity.
>>38780 >So as to psychologically demoralize the entire West People need to stop stroking their egos and look at real politics. That's up there with "China is mad because Pelosi is a woman" tier logic. Russia is going to strike London first because they blame the UK for this entire war happening. Go figure when a UK warship started this war.
>>38787 >Why does anyone pay lip service to China? Slave labor along standardized international shipping lanes fairly far away from piracy-heavy waters while still having a central location. The important takeaway is slave labor. The other slave labor countries all have a million and one restrictions.
68 Chinese fighter jets and 13 warships crossed the median line on Friday t. Taiwan defense ministry
Tsai (President of Taiwan) responds to the live-fire military exercises https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkD-awRsSXM
>>38780 Russia would never kill that many muslims.
>>38489 >>Gas shortages which are going to lead to food shortages/famines around the globe Don't forget various adverse weather events. France is experiencing a massive drought, with their driest summer in 60 years. Crops can't be irrigated (both because wells are drying up so there's nothing to irrigate with, and because irrigation is getting restricted or banned since drinking water gets priority), and livestock are having to get water trucked in, with all the fuel expense that implies.
>>38787 Taiwan does the opposite and asserts a de jure claim to mainland China, that they're unwilling to give up by declaring independence.
>>38768 whom are you speaking of out of curiosity?
>>38762 I think you've got it wrong anon, I think we've already passed the four horsemen long ago. The red horse was communism
>>38824 >nostradamus-tier confirmation bias The absolute state of /k/
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>>38812 Really feel for Taiwan, they are the original "Republic of China" despite being on an invaded territory called Formosa and even their flag is the original one too, the very same banner that is on some mausoleums for Yatsen Sun in PR China. The whole "Commie China was always the original China" is some massive doublethink by the west to get all that sweet wampum penny labor costs. It really will be seen as clown world in future history books if they are allowed to portray the truth at mainstream. And still it seems inane that the US supports them given that originally Yatsen Sun disliked americans for being the most chaotic/backstabbing party in the 8 Nation Alliance.
>>38831 >and even their flag is the original one too, Actually that's just the Kuomintang's flag. This IIRC was the Republican Chinese flag from 1912, which I believe was supposed to symbolize all the different chink ethnic groups before the country was split up into warlord states. >>38786 You should check out 8chan/cb/ for the cute boys/shota pics, I have a feeling you'll like it there too >>38795 >Referendums are easily influenced and manipulated So are elections and politicians, difference being that a referendum has a direct, visible impact on the world whereas letting a bunch of limp wristed bureaucrats and lawyers choose for you will take years of going nowhere until the solution will be long overdue. Also, AFAIK Switzerland functions pretty much like a direct democracy and they're doing just fine. Also, from direct experience, lawyers are not expert of jack shit, you're thinking of jurists and law professors (who also shouldn't hold any political office imo). They're just a bunch of useless assets to the law, they just interpret whatever the fuck they want from it and bend it to their liking, but cannot implement practical policies for shit. IMO politics should mostly be about leadership, getting people to accept a given idea and being diplomatically involved in the country and the world, while leaving the actual policy making to those who would be directly and indirectly affected by it. >Stopping lawyers from becoming politicians is like stopping religious students from becoming monks. They're both good ideas though. Religious students generally speaking fall more in line with the philosophers than the Church's bureaucrats.
>>38834 >Switzerland does ok Switzerland is a small, rich country separated by mountains. Direct democracy is alright on smaller scales, but it scales incredibly poorly when metropolitan areas get involved.
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>>38818 Stre-chan was referring to Ted Kaczynski, once a prominent American mathematics professor, now commonly regarded as an eco-terrorist, dubbed the Unabomber by the media back in the day. His whole thing was, to grossly oversimplify it, basically that technology is gonna buttfuck us in the end (hot). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski >>38834 >You should check out 8chan/cb/ for the cute boys/shota pics, I have a feeling you'll like it there too I'll look into it, thanks. I didn't know 8chan still existed, actually; in fact, looking for it after OpChan was kill and 4chang rangebanned me (or my VPN, anyways) was what eventually lead me here.
>it's the last day of exercise and Shina did fuck all
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>>38835 Look I agree that federalization and power structures that are distributed among regions/states is a wonderful thing, but if each of said regions could impose shit through direct democracy then it would follow that higher magnitude legislation can be passed through similar means. >>38838 Yeah the current 8chan has nothing to do with 8chan prime (8kun), it's run by a bunch of guys who're buddy buddy with the feds, except it's actually a good thing for once since it lets them bypass Esther styled cease and desist attacks we had a bunch of IBs taken down by some faggot who would spam dead boards with CP and then report it to cuckflare or the ISP, the admins of 8chan.moe can just tell their govt friends to wait for them to delete it By the way if you have trouble connecting there, they ban IPs from Israel, Russia and Germany because each of these countries wants their data to look for ebil natsees and cute and funny pictures. >>38849 Of course they didn't, it's like picrel (except when it stops being so)
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>>38851 >but if each of said regions could impose shit through direct democracy then it would follow that higher magnitude legislation can be passed through similar means. No it really doesn't. A fucking leaf in Vancouver doesn't know anything about the personal situation of a fucking leaf in Halifax, and giving in to ideas like "direct democracy" is a recipe for disaster. In the American example most "red" states have a single "blue" urban stronghold that has 60% of the state's population trying to rule over the other 40% spread out over the rest of the state without understanding the difference between an urban and a rural environment. The entire idea of a direct democracy is extremely childish and extremely insidious precisely because it is two wolves voting to eat a sheep and trying to say otherwise is either insidious or extremely ignorant. The majority (population) does not have the right to vote away the rights of the minority (majority by land mass) and any attempts to "secure" the system are just bandaid patches better fulfilled by a full-fledged constitutional republic.
>Amnesty International has stated that it does not intend to retract its conclusions about Ukraine's violations of the laws of warfare >"The findings in our press release documenting violations of international humanitarian law by the Ukrainian military were based on evidence gathered during extensive investigations on the ground. We believe it is fundamentally important to respond impartially," the statement said. another L for jewcraine
>>38852 So how local would it have to be for you to work? Because as things are now, the minority seems to hold almost all the cards in every democracy I know of and things went to absolute shit because of it.
>>38852 >>38858 Monarch as the central authority, with local lords as the local authority. This is the best system and always was.
>>38860 Queen's Blade is the best system. It weeds out the cowards who would turn the country into a sissified bureaucracy, provides the people with actual representation without the trappings of real or representative Democracy, provides the stability and decisiveness of monarchism without the elitist clique bullshit and it guarantees that whoever gets the throne wants it more than they want to be alive. The last point of course includes megalomaniacal douchebags and crazy zealots alongside the noble warriors and brave idealists but whatever that's what the right to bear arms is for.
>>38860 Yeah, feudalism is the only system that works. Hope we'll get to it soon.
>>38860 Aren't the lords able to fuck your wife infront of you?
>>38860 Feudalism ended because monarchs successful centralized power. You can never stop the ambitions of a truly great man.
>>38875 No, but actually yes. The notion that it was a codified, widespread law is mostly false (this is the point monarchists will argue against). But that doesn't mean it didn't happen, and that some lords didn't abuse their authority with impunity. Were lords able to fuck your wife in front of you, in the sense of an explicit legal ruling? Usually, no. Were lords able to fuck your wife in front of you, in the sense that they can just do it and know you can't do shit to stop him? Yes. Was it common? Probably not TOO common, between the ones who wouldn't do that even if they did have legal right, and the ones who want to do it but know it's a bad idea to abuse their authority for something so pointless. But that still leaves the ones degenerate enough to want to and dumb/shortsighted enough to actually do it, and that's surely still a significant minority of them.
>>38760 >Nobody is saying it's the end of the world >post I responded to literally say "I guess the end of the world really will come not with a bang, but a whimper." That aside you're either stuck under a rock or incredibly oblivious because the doomsayers have been crying about the sky falling harder than they used to since the corona lockdowns. >>38764 Makes sense. I think the inability to accept that chaos is an ever present factor is also the reason you see niggerpills blow a gasket and spin tales of incredibly elaborate schemes by nebulous secret societies to make [x] more badder because it's more comforting to think some smelly jew cabal is the entire reason the world is fucking stupid instead of just being one aspect among many. Taking out jew cabals would be a good thing but you'd have to be entirely delusional to think that would solve all problems forever and ever and that there aren't other people out there who will fill that void who are just as conniving. It's also easier to excuse inaction when you hyped your enemy up as a borderline deity. >>38849 As expected, if they were actually intent on starting shit they'd have killed Pelosi.
>>38884 >hyped your enemy up as a borderline deity Money is the god of many people and the noses do control how the money moves at macro nation levels most of the time, but i agree, someone usually always fills the void when it has been proved before someone does. As long as money goes that will happen time and time again but do have to mention in some nations eliminating someone(s) usually ended the problem when combined with an ongoing policy.
>>38834 Is that the flag for people who sexually identify as China?
>>38929 It might as well be.
Taiwanese official found dead in his hotel room with a heart attack. He was in part of research and development unit supervising missile production projects
>>38944 >>38942 Maybe try not jumping to conclusions when you fuck up. And drinking less while you're at it.
>>38943 >Taiwanese authorities said there was no sign of an "intrusion" in the hotel room in southern Taiwan where the 57-year-old died, according to CNA. He was in charge of supervising various missile production projects. >Ou Yang's family said he had a history of heart problems and also had a cardiac stent. A heart attack is the easiest medical emergency to replicate using drugs, but the guy had a history of heart conditions and was probably under a fuckton of stress, so I don't know. I guess if other officials start dropping that will make the answers clear.
>>38787 Economics. There is too much money on the line for countries to dare piss off West Taiwan. >>38798 Boomers Burgers claim to hate communism; unless they know they can profit handsomely from its existence. >>38958 Plasable deniability, huh.
>>38974 >Plasable deniability, huh. Anon, being a politically sensitive person doesn't give you immunity to disease. Sometimes a heart attack is actually a heart attack.
>>38974 >Plausible deniability, huh. I mean realistically if I was the head of the missile procurement program in Taiwan, I'd be under a fuckton of stress since Taiwan's strategy in the last 30 years hasn't changed despite every ally on Earth screaming at them to fix their missile program already. People with heart conditions in the first place are more likely to have a heart attack from lack of sleep/stress during a crisis. That's why I'll wait and see if any other officials die of heart attacks who weren't already at high risk.
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>>38849 No, anon. You don't understand! Can't you see military exercises are a de-facto blockade dress rehearsal for the 'real' blockade that will come next week month year?
>America signed a pact with Israel saying Israel can choose to start a war with Iran at any time and America will come to their aid militarily Source. >>38530 The good side about China's Final Warning is that they'll eventually go through with their promise and no one can say they weren't warned.
>>39015 >Biden: US prepared to use force to stop Iran getting nuclear arms >President Joe Biden has pledged that the US is "prepared to use all elements of its national power" to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. >Israel wants Iran's nuclear programme stopped altogether and has said it reserves the right to use force if it has to. In an interview with Israel's Channel 12 TV on Wednesday, Mr Biden also said the US would be prepared to use force against Iran >Mr Biden was asked about voices in the Democratic Party who describe Israel as an apartheid state and call for an end to unconditional American military aid. He said those views were "few and wrong", adding that there was no possibility of his party walking away from Israel.
>>39015 Y'all niggers never ask for a source when it's fresh, only after you think you can be smug and the lead is buried. >>37541
>>39018 >>39015 If war between Iran and Israel breaks out, could this possibly mean that China and Russia will start making moves in Europe and Russia respectively? Also, if a war were to happen between Iran and Israel and the US didn't get involved, who would win? I know the premise of the 2nd question is unlikely to ever happen but I think it's interesting to speculate
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Military exercises were supposed to end today but China has announced military exercises around Taiwan will be extended
>>39040 Flavors of Ukraine.
RUSSIA-UKRAINE WAR LOG FULL UTF-8 8/8/2022 MIRROR ONE: http://pastebin.zaytsev.net/view/raw/1eddf4fe MIRROR TWO: https://paster.jwfsanctuary.club/view/raw/cc0d4d00 All Russia-Ukraine war log archives since 02/24/22, sourced anonymously from image boards. Texts are UTF-8 encoded. Approximately 762KB (~0.7MB) data logged since 02/24/22. Download the raw UTF-8 compression here: https://rpa.st/download-archive/WGCVQ7XKIVPONSC6MMRH2LKNS4
8/8/22 Part 1 The US Made A Breakthrough Battery Discovery, Then The US Government Gave The Technology To China: https://www.npr.org/2022/08/03/1114964240/new-battery-technology-china-vanadium?t=1659966022324 ▲ FLASHBACK: Bidens made millions when they aligned their financial interest with Russia's Vladimir Putin and China's Xi Jinping: https://kanekoa.substack.com/p/exclusive-hunter-biden-texted-hallie The Party of Chaos is about to unleash its “Inflation Reduction Act,” which proposes to spend three quarters of a trillion dollars created from thin air into an economy already hyperventilating on three years of multi-trillion-dollar injections derived from no productive activity. At the same time, the act will raise taxes especially for low-end wage earners and small businesses, completing the regime’s destruction of the middle-class. More likely, passage of the act will trigger destruction of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency, and a stampede out of dollar-denominated investments, which is to say, a very severe financial crisis. Credit will freeze, the distribution and sales of goods will cease, interest will stop being paid on virtually all outstanding debt, the bond market will implode. But the process could conceivably invite an attempted Chinese takeover of the USA, if not militarily, then in a way similar to America’s asset-stripping operations in the collapsed Soviet Union of the 1990s, a looting spree — as seen many other times in history when empires founder. Or else, the rest of the world will just kick back and witness the spectacle of our struggle as the lights of Western Civ flicker out. (Europe will be right in it with us, by the way.) The other nations of the world are tired of us trying to push them around, with increasingly evil intentions. They will enjoy watching our tribulations. They will be convinced we deserve it: https://www.allnewspipeline.com/Be_Ready_For_The_Coming_Chaos.php Russia and Turkey are switching to payments for Russian gas supplies in rubles, on which the two presidents agreed at negotiations in Sochi on Friday, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak said: https://interfax.com/newsroom/top-stories/82008/ Germans should cut energy consumption by at least 20% to avoid gas shortages this coming winter, Klaus Mueller, the head of Germany’s federal regulator for gas and power networks, has told Welt am Sonntag newspaper: https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article240328325/Gasmangel-Verbraucher-muessen-mindestens-20-Prozent-einsparen.html Back in March, we pointed out that Western sanctions on Russia were likely to backfire against the West. Biden has, in effect, helped launch an economic World War III, imposing unprecedented sanctions on a large and economically important country. Russia isn't an Iran or Libya. It's a continent-spanning country with a population of 145 million, and it is (or was) one of the world's top five exporters of oil, natural gas, nickel, wheat, coal, and other commodities. Let's breakdown why these sanctions are dangerous for us, and close with our investment approach to them: https://www.benzinga.com/22/06/27568203/u-s-sanctions-on-russia-backfire-as-we-predicted-how-our-investments-based-on-that-prediction-are-do ▲ MY COMMENT: You can bet your bottom dollar nearly all politicians, leaders and corporate/banking insiders bet AGAINST the US and the Western world and made enormous profits doing so!!! If you can't fathom corruption being that bad today you are brain dead naive!!! SURPRISE! Monsanto And Blackrock Are Buying Up Ukraine: https://freewestmedia.com/2022/08/06/monsanto-and-blackrock-are-buying-up-ukraine/ Investigation exposes huge weapons black market in Ukraine. Around 30% of weapons sent by Western governments actually make it into the hands of Ukrainian troops: https://rumble.com/v1f0qmr-cbs-news-exposes-ukraine-weapons-scam-30-maybe-reaches-its-final-destinatio.html ▲ MY COMMENT: Perfect way for corrupted entities to covertly fund more staged false flag terror attacks in Western nations to scare they people into accepting less freedom. Russian Defense Ministry Designates COVID-19 As A US-Govt Biological Weapon: https://archive.md/vnjR1 After firing unvaccinated workers, Hershey’s says it can’t make enough candy for Halloween and blames Putin: https://www.naturalnews.com/2022-08-07-firing-unvaccinated-workers-hersheys-candy-shortage-halloween.html
>>39048 8/8/22 Part 2 Beijing and Moscow will lead resistance against Western aggression and repression: https://www.rt.com/news/560353-west-world-hegemony-lesson/ The Armed Forces of Ukraine detected and neutralized enemy reconnaissance groups in the areas of Bakhmutske, Bakhmut, and Yakovlivka localities: https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3545718-bakhmut-direction-ukraines-armed-forces-neutralize-several-enemy-recon-groups.html The Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has shot down four Kalibr cruise missiles fired by Russian invaders from the Black Sea: https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3545976-ukraine-army-destroys-four-enemy-missiles-fired-from-black-sea.html The Ukrainian military on Sunday, August 7, hit the Antonivsky and Kakhovsky bridges, again. That’s according to Nataliya Humeniuk, head of the coordination press center of Operational Command South, Ukrinform reports: https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3545746-ukrainian-forces-strike-antonivsky-and-kakhovsky-bridges.html Russian military leadership continues to experience major turnover, which is likely impacting Russian command and control efforts in Ukraine. Russian forces conducted limited ground attacks southwest and southeast of Izyum, east of Siversk, and to the east and south of Bakhmut. Russian forces have likely made incremental gains in settlements on the northwestern and southwestern outskirts of Donetsk City and continued efforts to break Ukrainian defensive lines along the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line of contact: https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-august-7 Footage of Ukraine’s 93rd Kholodnyi Yar Brigade destroying Russian T-80BVM tank: https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/08/08/watch-footage-of-ukraines-93rd-kholodnyi-yar-brigade-destroying-russian-t-80bvm-tank/ Russians hit military facilities with rockets in Vinnytsia oblast: https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/7/7362275/
>>38996 Wtf is this crap from 4cuck?

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