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SCOTUS Rules May Issue Is Unconstitutional Under the 2nd and 14th Ammendments Strelok 06/23/2022 (Thu) 17:16:57 ID: 1b830f No.36351
SCOTUS Rules May Issue Is Unconstitutional Under the 2nd and 14th Amendments https://youtube.com/watch?v=6BeIGxvu8v8 tl;dr- Any state that isn't Shall Issue is now in violation of the constitution. >What does it mean? Yet to be seen as they ruled 9-0 last year that red flag laws are unconstitutional yet Congress is voting on it anyways.
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>Our decision, as noted, does not expand the categories of people who may lawfully possess a gun, and federal law generally forbids the possession of a handgun by a person who is under the age of 18 AKA: 2A is still a second class right to be denied to literally a full quarter of the population at will for 100% arbitrary reasons.
Since nobody wants to actually name the case, it's New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen.
>>36360 > New York State Are red flag laws removed in New York or what? Can someone explain what does ruling mean for any other gun laws? the OP doesn't give out much info.
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>>36359 Everybody expected Kavanaugh to cuck out. Alito and based darkie said it should have been a full ban on issuance but Kavanaugh wouldn't agree to the case unless they agreed to his cucked ruling. >>36366 If you can't tell the difference between red flags and permit issuances you should probably get the fuck /out/ consider what each of the two things mean. tl;dr version for nofunz plebs: >Jew York (and some states) are may issue (can deny your permit) >SCOTUS ruled they must be shall issue (they can require a permit, but they can't deny you one on request for any reason without due process stripping you of your rights such as a felony) The red flag law thing is something else where last year SCOTUS ruled red flag laws are unconstitutional 9-0, but Republicucks just now are passing a gun control bill that includes red flag laws.
I see where your confusion stems from. I was commenting on how red flag laws were ruled unconstitutional last year yet they are voting on them anyways as a counter-point to the fact that SCOTUS making a ruling doesn't fucking matter if everyone ignores it.
>>36375 >The red flag law thing is something else where last year SCOTUS ruled red flag laws are unconstitutional 9-0, but Republicucks just now are passing a gun control bill that includes red flag laws. >>36376 >I see where your confusion stems from. I was commenting on how red flag laws were ruled unconstitutional last year yet they are voting on them anyways The way I understand it is that the bill(s) they are voting on/discussing doesn't establish a federal red flag law it just incentivizes it just incentivized states to erect their own. Which presumably would be challenged immediately in court. Actually what was the exact wording of the Supreme Court ruling on red flag laws? I get a feeling that "red flag laws" are a very broad definition of laws.
>>36389 >Actually what was the exact wording of the Supreme Court ruling on red flag laws?
>>36391 That doesn't seem to specifically make red flag laws unconstitutional, it just narrows the specific wording of said laws.
>>36393 Your reverse psychology to get me to spoonfeed you is not gonna happen. It states quite clearly in no uncertain terms that unwarranted search and seizures are a violation of due process and thus the 4th amendment.
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>>36375 > SCOTUS ruled red flag laws are unconstitutional 9-0 I'm surprised even the kike witch came to that conclusion.
>>36403 The general agreement by the judges at that time was that you have to have due process in order to enter somebody's property or else you're setting yourself up for failure at every level of the judicial branch. They basically had to in order to justify their jobs since the way the law was being enforced made the police judge, jury, and executioner.
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>>36426 >the way the law was being enforced made the police judge, jury, and executioner.
I haven't seen anything in the news about the red flag stuff that was suppose to be in that bill that was recently passed. Did it make it into the final version or not?
>>36503 It did. The bill added a 2 week waiting period for purchases under 21 and they labeled it a "medical/psychiatric emergency" to get it into the bill (don't remember the exact text but it's in there). It's technically a precursor to red flag laws rather than a red flag law itself, but on a state-by-state level it comes down to whether the state decides you are psychologically unwell (and the determination for that is left to the states).
>>36505 I wonder if what pushed a few republicans over into supporting the bill since thay could simply choose not to implement red flag laws in their respective states or even introduce anti-red flag laws?
>>36507 Don't care. Any compromise on gun rights is treachery. The only negotiation or compromise I will accept in exchange for a new gun law is repealing the NFA. Anything short of that is a concession and the anti-gun states are outnumbered and should be making the concessions.
>>36508 Are any of the republicans that crossed the aisles up for reelection this year?
>>36510 I'd have to double check but IIRC most of them aren't up for reelection until 2024 or 2026. From the sounds of it West Virginia's senator is the only one there are active plans to sabotage right now.
>>36510 The 15 Senate Republicans were: >Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. >Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas >Sen. Thom Tillis, R-N.C. >Sen. Roy Blunt, R-Mo. >Sen. Richard Burr, R-N.C. >Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-La. >Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine >Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C. >Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio >Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah >Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa. >Sen. Joni Ernst, R-Iowa >Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska >Sen. Todd Young, R-Ind. >Sen. Shelly Moore Capito, R-W.Va. The 14 House members were: >Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo. >Rep. Fred Upton, R-Mich. >Rep. Anthony Gonzalez, R-Ohio >Rep. Steve Chabot, R-Ohio >Rep. Michael Turner, R-Ohio >Rep. Dave Joyce, R-Ohio >Rep. Chris Jacobs, R-N.Y. >Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick, R-Pa. >Rep. Vicente Gonzalez, R-Texas >Rep. Maria Salazar, R-Fla. >Rep. John Katko, R-Ky. >Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill. >Rep. Tom Rice, R-S.C. >Rep. Peter Meijer, R-Mich. I'm not going to waste an hour looking up when each one is up for reelection but if any of these are your senators/house members, don't forget.
Nevermind the Democrats did the work for me. Only two of the senators are up for reelection. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Todd Young of Indiana. Obviously house members are up for reelection every 2 years.
>>36526 >>36528 Even if they weren't up for regular election couldn't they be removed via noconfidence votes? At least in some of those states?
>>36559 The only Senator on that list who represents a state that allows recalls is Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, and it would require a petition of 1/3rd of the total casted votes for Bill Cassidy to get a recall on the ballot. The votes would have to be collected after the November election cycle, but before the 2023 election cycle begins the following summer in Louisiana in order to get it on the ballot, so the chances of a recall are slim.
>>36560 What about censure?
>>36577 >Censure It only works on populists. Establishment Republicans feel no shame in betraying the American people so a censure means nothing to them since it's just a public condemnation.

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