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Russia & Ukraine Thread 16 - Bakhmut Blitz Edition Strelok 06/23/2022 (Thu) 03:32:31 ID: bd0d6b No.36308
Past the 800 replies or page 3 requirement. "Recent" updates: >Confirmed that 50 Ukrainian command staff (including the guy running the official Ukrainian MOD twitter page- not their propaganda sidearm) killed in Russian missile strike >Overall Ukrainian casualties reported in/confirmed at about 27% death rate (at least 65k Ukrainian soldiers KIA) with Russian numbers maybe 5-10% behind >Snek island was attacked again unsuccessfully and has become a surface-to-air missile fortress of sorts >Ukrainians gathering a large number of forces in Kharkiv and Mykolaiv >Both fronts aren't swimming so good but can genuinely be called an offensive >Russians forced to divert troops to Kherson and Izium to defend the main highways >Sverodonetsk and Lysychansk are to become the new Mariupol in the coming weeks >Hirske was abandoned >Ukrainians are finally getting Western weaponry >Countries like America are stripping the targeting computers out of the artillery before shipping since it would increase the accuracy range of the howitzers into Russia proper >First thing they did was shell the fuck out of civilian population centers in Donetsk >Russians have already captured France's artillery for research purposes >1/3 of donated American howitzers are gone between Snek Island losses and Luhansk front losses if you follow Russia's official numbers >Russian MOD reporting 60% casualties from Ukrainians near Hirske after they surrendered, while Ukrainian MOD's spokesperson is still fucking dead >At best soldiers on the ground are claiming that "most of their guys got out already" and insisting it was a retreat instead of a surrender >A new front line is beginning to form along a set of towns from Bakhmut to Slovyansk because of >Based on estimated BTG densities and the distances of the front lines, Russians will have 30k-60k troops to throw around at new fronts (and Ukraine will be able to relax their defense until then) so new fronts might open up >Status of the 200-600 foreign mercenaries in Sverodonetsk is still unclear but they have no safe escape route >Reports of Mercenaries getting shitter shattered by Russian snipers and mines while fleeing becoming commonplace since they will get the death sentence if captured >Russia renamed the street the US embassy is at to "Donetsk People's Republic Square" after America refused to acknowledge the two breakaway nations >Lithuania is effectively blockading Russian transit to Kaliningrad and blaming EU sanctions >This technically violates a Cold War treaty that lets Russia legally take pretty much Lithuania's entire coast (by force) if they don't cease >Additionally international law states you can't use regional sanctions to prevent transit between a country and its exclave (you can legally tax it) >Russia has already threatened "harsh action" >Lithuania being part of NATO, this is a Cuban missile crisis-tier situation that politicians are bumbling right now >Oil pressure is mounting as Turkey is set to close down their pipeline for a week for yearly maintenance and Gazprom is set to close down their few remaining active pipelines for maintenance in early July (while being sanctioned from having the equipment to repair/maintain them delivered to the workers at the pipes) I'm sure I missed something, but basically video related. Link Dump: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/traduzir-paginas-web/ https://web.telegram.org https://fotoforensics.com https://trashchan.xyz/finance/ https://yandex.ru/news Maps: https://mobile.twitter.com/Suriyakmaps https://militaryland.net/ukraine/deployment-map/ https://militaryland.net/tag/maps/ (Daily updates) https://liveuamap.com/ http://defensepoliticsasia.com/Ukraine/ https://militarymaps.info/ (requires Russian social media account and Russian payment processors) https://maphub.net/Cen4infoRes/russian-ukraine-monitor (Intentionally up to a week old) https://opermap.mash.ru/ (Russian propaganda map) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Russo-Ukrainian_War_detailed_map Channels: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRTq5KxoyKuquatzn2iF0Pg (Numbers and brief overviews of the day's news; no bullshit) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUnc496-PPmFZVKlYxUnToA ("Breaking news" Belarusian take on the war) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgGHiivhFq7M_1MLemh-cjg ("Breaking news" Singaporean take on the war) https://www.youtube.com/c/MilitaryandForeignAffairsNetwork (Military and foreign affairs network; slightly pro-Ukrainian and uses militaryland maps allowing him to cover more specific military groups and pockets at the cost of less breaking news) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP2QApi8G2TKc8NZmeDWSUg (Least biased "breaking news" Reddit "OSINT" take on the war) https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday (Patrick Lancaster reporting from Russian side) https://www.youtube.com/c/GrahamPhillipsUK (Graham Phillips less personal more professional reporting from the Russian side) https://www.youtube.com/c/AlexanderMercourisReal (Alexander Mercouris; Discusses the geopolitical issues of policies and their effects) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHqqf2BwNM4Oih-a_ikbWww (French Zoomer Historian/Comedian covering the war) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0EnYUt8dJUYcDgHUFG8vYA (Covers Economic matters in regard to Ukraine, updates on the frontlines, shorts, and other things; mild Russian bias) https://www.youtube.com/user/Itapirkanmaa2/videos (Z) https://www.youtube.com/c/DjukiSan/videos (Z2) https://www.youtube.com/c/RoadHomeMotorcycleVlogs (Ukrainian propaganda channel) Sister threads: /pol/: Currently fucked. Will post a new link when they get a new permanent location or anon can provide a link to a good alternative sister thread. /leftypol/: https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/818936.html
Edited last time by Reuenthal on 06/29/2022 (Wed) 03:04:48.
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For posterity, here is LiveUA's map according to the Ukrainian MOD and Wikipedia's bullshit map in order to keep track of their updates.
>>36294 >You can't just secede because you feel like it. You can if you're powerful enough to accomplish it or have allies powerful enough to help you accomplish it. History is full of peoples or regions that seceded "just because they felt like it" and some times they were successful.
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>>36308 >Russian MOD reporting 60% casualties from Ukrainians near Hirske >while Ukrainian MOD's spokesperson is still fucking dead wow, rude
>>36236 >Worse than all three, according to Russian Telegram. Russia has the legal right to reclaim parts of Lithuania, ceded to Lithuania by the USSR in exchange for not playing stupid games with Kaliningrad. >Little fact about Lithuania. It considers the time under USSR as an illegitimate occupation. Thus, legally, the lands it got under ussr (including its capital Vilnius (Vilnya)) are no longer Lithuanian either. But Russia and Lithuania signed a treaty in 2004, stating that Russia, as a legal successor state to the USSR, recognizes Lithuanian borders as long as there is free access to Kaliningrad. Now Lithuania breached its agreement, meaning Lithuania will lose Klaipeda region, which was transferred from Germany to USSR according to Potsdam conference, and also they will lose Vilnya, which was transferred from Poland to first Belarus, and only then given to Lithuania by Stalin. Oh shit. Things really are escalating. What does Russia do to compel Lithuania to transfer the land back to Russia if they were refuse to either of Russia's demands? Or does Russia just go 'fuck it we already own it' and roll in while Lithuania screams invasion and demands NATO intervention and things start heating up right quick?
>>36314 >Or does Russia just go 'fuck it we already own it' and roll in while Lithuania screams invasion and demands NATO intervention and things start heating up right quick? At this point most bets are on Lithuania becoming the new Bosnia-Herzegovina of WWI/Poland of WWII.
>>36314 >Lithuania is gambling the fate of the Baltics and their own capital to gain brownie points with NATO and the EU While it could entrench them more, a potential Russian response could be a complete embargo, seizures, and expulsion of Lithuanian citizens. Starving Lithuania into humiliating itself by crawling to its neighbors is a viable option. Otherwise, if these treaties are true, Russia could declare Lithuania or its government illegitimate.
>>36236 >>36314 Are there any good English sources on this? I can't find too much. Just a couple articles http://www.cap.lmu.de/download/2004/2004_Tiiman.pdf has the following from 2004, but it's very vague: >Lithuania is strongly not interested in the restitution of the situation before World War II regarding its borders, which Estonia and Latvia are. Such a step would leave Lithuania in a situation where it would to answer to substantial territorial claims from all of its neighbors. That is also the reason why it always stresses a lack of border problems with Russia, as well as the fact that it has already signed a corresponding treaty with Moscow. The most detailed source I found was https://digitalcommons.nyls.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1324&context=journal_of_international_and_comparative_law in which there is an explanation that >The boundary with the Soviet Union derives from the Soviet Russian-Lithuanian treaty of July 12, 1920 (the Moscow Peace Treaty). and it asserts: >The Lithuanian-Soviet treaty of October 10, 1939, (the Transfer of Vilnius Treaty), which dealt with the transfer of Vilnius and the Vilnius Territory to Lithuania, and the protocol on the Lithuanian-Soviet boundary of October 27, 1939, are also invalid. These were unequal treaties that were imposed upon Lithuania by threats Later, the article described that the October 10 treaty restored the city and 21% of the Vilnius territory as recognized by the 1920 treaty (which had since been occupied by Poland until German-Russian invasion in 1939), but withdrew Lithuanian claims on the remainder, ceding them to Russia. It's not immediately clear to me how much of that territory is in modern Lithuania (this article was written in 1991, and so is quite out of date in that regard). That article goes on to say: >At times, President Gorbachev has stated that the Soviet Union should detach all territories that were added to Lithuania after her annexation in 1940. These areas consist of the four territories of Švenčionys, Šalčininkai, and Druskininkai, which were ceded to Lithuania by the Byelorussian SSR in 1940, and the territory of Klaipėda, which reverted to Lithuania in 1945 after the unconditional surrender of Germany and the restoration by the Allies of the German frontiers as they appeared on December 31, 1937. Which at least gives some territorial claims Russia might revive. The article subsequently explains that the territories ceded in 1939 were given to the Belarus SSR, then ceded again back to Lithuania only after it had been occupied by the USSR, and specifically in the same document that integrated them. In 1990, the Lithuanians rejected that document in its entirety, including those ceded lands even though (at the time the article was written) they were held by Lithuania. But for Vilnius, it concludes: >There have been three Lithuanian-Soviet boundaries since the signing of the Moscow Peace Treaty. The first boundary was established under article 2 of the treaty. The second was the boundary of the Transfer of Vilnius Treaty. The third, and last, was the administrative boundary between Byelorussia and Soviet occupied Lithuania, which was established on November 6, 1940. This became the factual boundary of the Republic of Lithuania on March 11, 1990. Each of these boundaries has assigned Vilnius to Lithuania. There were no other boundaries between Lithuania and the Soviet Union. If the Soviet government, in order to claim Vilnius for itself or for any of its republics, repudiates each of these boundaries, then it can claim, with equal justification, any city or any part of Lithuania. As far as I can tell, Lithuania's position is that the 1939 treaty and anything from then until independence is invalid, but that since the 1920 was signed between the USSR and an independent Lithuania, they consider it valid, and therefore claim all territory considered Lithuanian under its terms. The article implies that this position excludes certain territory that may be part of modern Lithuania, but DOES include Vilnius. The implication is that Russia (on behalf of its pet Belarus) may be able to press some claims, but I don't see where they could claim the capital. Note that this post was written at the same time that I was reading the report, so there may be contradictions or incomplete thoughts and things were explained. As an aside, the Tiiman report contained this interesting passage: >What practical risks may exist because of the lack of border treaties in Europe? One of them is the possibility that at a certain moment Russia may declare that, due to the lack of a border treaty, it cannot control immigration through this particular border region and open the gate for Third World immigration to Europe through the Baltics. The possibility of such behavior from Russia is highly remote, because this issue is also regulated by many other multilateral agreements, which are obligatory for Russia as well. So Moscow is not in the position to act in such an irrational way. Also, we have to take into consideration substantial changes in the world of security measures after September 11th. Russia is strongly supporting the anti-terrorism movement (with the intention of having a free hand in other areas), so such behavior from Moscow is not feasible.
>>36318 And I forgot to specify, it appears that the >they will lose Vilnya, which was transferred from Poland to first Belarus, and only then given to Lithuania by Stalin. claim previously posted in these threads is incorrect. As far as I can tell, the Soviets gave the city itself and its immediate surroundings directly from Poland to Lithuania, and only the surrounding region was passed through Belarus first. On the other hand, since the sources I read were old, I don't know what the 2004 treaty that post references might add to the matter.
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Is anyone sure that Europe or Russia will give a crap about these near-century-old border disputes at this point? It seems both sides have pretty much decided that former treaties and peace agreements are irrelevant or null and void at this point.
>>36308 If Lithuania was smart about it, they should've just jewed any cargo coming to and from Kaliningrad. It'd piss russia off but it wouldn't lead to any fracas with NATO. Or a potential front developing. >>36320 With cooler heads, such treaties will get dredged up and politicked. With hotter heads, treaties are just pieces of paper; they can't stop a bullet.
>>36320 In general no but due the two important wrinkles here >Lithuania is holding Kaliningrad "hostage" >Lithuania is also a NATO member makes this a tricky situation for everyone involved. Russia most likely doesn't want to fight another war front right now but they can't and won't leave Kaliningrad to rot. NATO (i.e. US) wants Russia weakened but doesn't want to have to go to actual direct war with it because in that event nothing will be able to prevent a hot WWIII from occurring. EU, as much as they matter, wants to sanction Russia enough to punish them and dissuade them from further European aggression but they don't want to freeze to death come winter. And it's a real snarl because from a certain point of view part of NATO has committed an act of war (by partially blockading a portion of Russia), which means that potential Russian response wouldn't be an act of aggression but defense. Which in turn would make the NATO mutual defense clause uncertain. Which is an additional knot because if NATO declares that they won't help Lithuania because they aggressed first it'll make NATO look weak and make NATO membership a farce, at least for the post Iron Curtain admissions. On the other hand if NATO steps up then they have a new World War. Further more if NATO doesn't tell Lithuania to knock it off they it'll be caught in the position that any of the eastern fringe NATO countries can basically declare WWIII at will and force the rest of NATO to go along. And unlike the Russia-Ukraine thing where it's a battle of perspective of who really owns what, Kaliningrad is explicitly a part of Russia and they have every right to break a blockade and reestablish a connection to the mainland. The US would absolutely not tolerate a blockade about any of its exclave regions like Alaska or Hawaii, even if it were a peaceful blockade. No other Western power would tolerate it either. So in this case Russia absolutely has NATO dead to rights.
>>36322 Solution: Convince Koenigsberg to vote on secession. If Crimea can do it...
>>36323 Ironically you'll have better luck convincing Petersburg people to leave Russia than you do with Kaliningrad.
>>36323 Yeah that's not going to happen. 87% of the population of Kaliningrad is Russian.
>>36322 Honestly, Natto should start dealing with all of its weird situations within (Cyprus, Bosnia, all the breakaway regions of Serbia) first to increase the number of their allies and push Russia into a corner first, and only then start with all the passive aggressive acts of war.
>>36323 Even ignoring ethnicity it's the headquarters of Russia's Baltic sea fleet and the center of Russian military power outside of Moscow and Chechnya. I just don't see the population living there wanting to leave without a good 20 year blockade (and as it stands it sounds like they'll be back to "normalcy" in a month or two so Russia night decide to just not do anything).
>>36322 There was a conspiracy with just a few too many truths for comfort last thread suggesting that the reason America Ukraine is bombing Donetsk civilian centers is to ensure no party can come to the negotiation table without bringing this war to a head again in the future, so it makes me wonder if this isn't an intentional escalation of tensions thinking both sides are still playing chicken when in reality Eastern Europe as a whole and Russia are both taking their gloves off. I've heard from a few strategists now that if Russia invades Lithuania, regardless of whether NATO intervenes Turkey is likely to pull out of NATO in the somewhat-near future since Erdogan currently views Lithuania's provocations as an act of war and is hoping to leverage the EU to create a war profiteering bloc that remains neutral from conflicts but participates in all of them indirectly.
Before the thread gets too populated. Can anyone gib me the numbers for the russia vs ukraine threads 5-10? Can't find them manually on archive.ph.
>>36314 >>36315 >>36316 Russian restoration of Prussia soon. >Klaipeda It's called Memel.
>>36331 WWIII starting over literal Memeland sounds frighteningly believable in this clown world.
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Have a hearty "Heh." to start out your day. tl;dr: There may be a Frenchie from a super high speed, Elite officer training school in Ukraine right now. If he is who he says he is, then the dumbass also failed basic OPSEC, and Russian shitposters have already geolocated him to send his info to the Russian MoD. >Elite French officers of Saint Cyr in Ukraine as instructors? >This week, an unidentified French citizen posted a photo in a private chat to tell his comrades that he had arrived in Ukraine. >At first glance, one might think he is just a French civilian. But on detail caught our attention: >Under his plate carrier (CIRAS, french army one) one logo can be seen inscribed on his jumper. >It is the logo of the ESM of Saint Cyr, the elite military school that trains the best French officers. It has links with other similar NATO schools such as West Point and Sandhurst. The school has also trained many African generals who have gone on to make pro-French coup d'état... >The man in the photo appears to be in "Мала Любаша" ("50.8370° N, 26.5174°E"), a village near Zhytomir. >Is this man part of a group of elite French officers sent to Ukraine to train local troops? We have passed the information on to the Russian Ministry of Defence so that they can take the necessary steps.
>>36328 >Turkey is likely to pull out of NATO Then they immediately lose Cyprus to British and US forces, possibly Egyptian and Libyan fronts as well. Right now EU/USA foreign policy in the Mediterranean is one big game of charades with Turkey just to keep them in their power bloc, the moment they go rogue or neutral is the moment that all pretense of mutual friendship is dropped. >>36333 Wouldn't surprise me, Merkel then and Scholz now have completely neutered Germany and France is the only EU country who's still invested in going balls to the wall in foreign countries.
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Some S Tier Russian propaganda.
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>>36335 1st pic related they made Maryupol look like an asshole from the the thumbnail >3 A column of armored vehicles is going to the area of the Gorsko-Zolotoye cauldron >4-5 Stickers around Auschwitz
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reports that O group broke through to outskirts of southern Lisichansk and captured an important stronghold.
>>36338 >Lisichansk is already under attack. Yikes. Russia is really going to close out Donbass before the end of Summer, aren't they?
>>36337 >A column of armored vehicles is going to the area of the Gorsko-Zolotoye cauldron Didn't Ukraininans pull out their troops out of Zolote/Girske already?
>>36340 according to to Russian sources yesterday there about 1k to 1.5k solders left in Gorsko-Zolotoye cauldron.
>>36340 According to Ukrainian sources that are mocking the Russians for being retarded and sending hundreds of armored vehicles to an empty location, yes. So no. There are still Ukrainians in Zolote/Girske, and they are doomed.
>>36334 >Then they'll lose their tax haven Turkey's probably hedging their bets on most of those countries dumping their military over in Russia or gnashing their teeth and joining a Turkish-led coalition for security. The three things keeping Russia and Turkey away from each other are Armenia, Syria, and Ukraine. Of which 2/3 are NATO/EU pressures and a different 2/3 are weapons sales.
>>36342 >Doomed Only the mercs and Ukrainians with meme tattoos. The rest will just have an extended vacation eating oatmeal in camps and might even get a chance to turncoat in exchange for debt/crime forgiveness when the front line stretches too thin.
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more russian shitposting incoming
>>36345 >ogecca >eto >poccnr >ogecca eto'o poccnr You tell 'em.
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JSC Lithuanian Railways website
>>36337 >4th and 5th pics What you doin' Schlomo?
>>36347 *notices your bulge* :3
Estonia would be wiped off the map and Tallinn's Old Town completely destroyed under NATO's current plans to defend the country from a Russian attack, Prime Minister Kaja Kallas (Reform) told the Financial Times (FT) newspaper and other foreign media outlets on Wednesday. Kallas said the alliance's existing defense plans for the Baltic states is to allow them to be overrun before liberating them after 180 days. She pointed out that it is just over 100 days since Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine and that the atrocities carried out by the Russians at Bucha occurred after 80 days. "If you compare the sizes of Ukraine and the Baltic countries, it would mean the complete destruction of countries and our culture," the FT reported Kallas saying. "Those of you who have been to [the capital] Tallinn and know our old town and the centuries of history that's here and centuries of culture that's here — that would all be wiped off the map, including our people, our nation." The prime minister was speaking ahead of NATO's summit in Madrid which starts on Tuesday (June 28). Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are submitting a joint proposal for additional troops and permanent division command centers in each country, a step above the current Enhanced Forward Presence (eFP) temporary rotating troops which have been called a "tripwire" and aim to deter a Russian attack. "Now everyone sees that this tripwire concept doesn't really work," Kallas said. All NATO allies must agree upon the proposal and Estonia has been working to secure their support. https://news.err.ee/1608638245/kallas-estonia-would-be-wiped-from-map-under-existing-nato-plans
>>36353 >Kallas said the alliance's existing defense plans for the Baltic states is to allow them to be overrun before liberating them after 180 days. Bets on how many Canadian generals were involved in these plans?
>>36353 >that would all be wiped off the map, including our people, our nation And nothing of value was lost.
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>>36349 The National Cyber Security Center (NKSC) of Lithuania has issued a public warning about a steep increase in distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks directed against public authorities in the country. DDoS is a special type of cyberattack that causes internet servers to be overwhelmed by a large number of requests and garbage traffic, rendering the hosted sites and services inaccessible for legitimate visitors and users. According to NKSC, due to these cyberattacks, Lithuania's transportation agencies, financial institutions, and other large entities have experienced temporary service disruptions. “The NCSC urges all managers of critical information infrastructure and state information resources to take additional security measures and to follow the NCSC recommendations for protection against service disruption attacks,” advises the public notice. The agency provided a link to a PDF containing extensive guidance on defending against all types of DDoS attacks used by threat actors today, so system administrators are advised to apply the recommended mitigations. At this time, there are no reports of severe problems or high-impact disruptions coming from the country, but some services like those of the Lithuanian Railways are facing problems with ticketing and client communications. Possible Russian retribution? On June 21, 2022, a Russian group of hacktivists called “Legion – Cyber Spetsnaz RF” posted on Telegram declaring cyberwar against many Lithuanian organizations. The listed entities include large banks, logistic companies, internet providers, airports, energy firms, mass media groups, and various state and ministry sites. The large number of listed websites could be spreading the group’s available DDoS firepower too thin, as these hacktivist operations rely on volunteers who use the provided tools to generate and send requests to the targets. This particular group of actors is an offshoot of the Killnet group, which became notorious for attacking Romanian government websites in April and Italian state platforms in May 2022. Russian hackers hit Lithuanian sites with DDoS attacks because the country’s government imposed a limited goods transportation blockade between Russia and the Kaliningrad exclave as part of EU sanctions. The Kremlin perceived this move as extraordinarily aggressive and illegal, and the hacktivists who support the Russian government were quick to orchestrate and launch cyberattacks against Lithuania. https://web.archive.org/web/20220623181317/https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/lithuania-warns-of-rise-in-ddos-attacks-against-government-sites/
How well maintained are NATO's European stockpiles of nuclear-tipped ballistic and cruise missiles?
>>36345 Are we supposed to know what the hell these even mean? At least translate them so we understand
>>36362 >Odessa is a Russian city >Odessa = Russia! >Odessa is Russia
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>>36355 >dumbass burger with nonexistent culture saying Estonia has "no value" An old Estonian hut in some mountain has more cultural value than every single US city ever combined, just letting you know.
>>36364 There are no mountains in estonia.
>>36364 Anon, you don't have to be an amerimutt to look down on the whiny chihuahua countries that the dumbaltic states are.
>>36364 He's right though
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>>36370 Estonians are to Finns what Belarusians are to Russians. So no, he is quite wrong.
>>36358 As good as everyone else's I would imagine.
>"Putin price hike" - Biden So if Putin is in control of Western economies and putting up prices as were told (without firing a bullet here), and all Western leaders unable to stop him, is he defacto "World Wide Emperor" now? Why is NATO so lucky it's not getting its ass handed to in by engaging in a direct conflict? Shouldn't we properly address him as Vlad the Chad "WWE" Putin?
>>36377 >So if Putin is in control of Western economies and putting up prices as were told (without firing a bullet here), and all Western leaders unable to stop him, is he defacto "World Wide Emperor" now? He's not in control of anything. None of these stooges are in charge. The actual people in charge won't show their faces in the public. >Why is NATO so lucky it's not getting its ass handed to in by engaging in a direct conflict? Pretty sure every country had a backdoor agreement before this entire invasion even happened >Shouldn't we properly address him as Vlad the Chad "WWE" Putin? lmao no. He's an awful and shitty leader. Russians hate his guts and he kills anyone that slightly criticizes his rule
>>36353 The best fucking thing to happen would be for all the new NATO members to leave NATO and create their own mutual defense pact organization. That would defuse these sorts of situations and keep a neutral ground between NATO and Russia. >>36335 >Hitler summons his Persona
>>36382 NATO being split between NATO proper and some kind of Intermarium would honestly have been the best scenario, but I think it's too late for that.
>>36356 We all know this is not enough for a retribution. I hope it is just sanctions, cutting off gas and oil, blockade of goods moving to lithuania including through belarus, strikes on infrastructure including food storage facilities and total economic warfare (but it is a bit too late for that).
>>36379 >He's not in control of anything. >Tanks every Western economy single handed >not in control of anything Even dementia ridden Biden calls the raised gas prices the "Putin Price Hike" because he knows Putin is in control of prices not him.* >he kills anyone that slightly criticizes his rule WWEmperor confirmed *tribe,WEF,illuminati,freemasons,bloodlines,greys excepted
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>>36379 >he kills anyone that slightly criticizes his rule I'm glad we don't have to worry about that sort of thing here in the US.
>>36386 >I'm glad we don't have to worry about that sort of thing here in the US. So our choices are either shit or diarrhea then?
>>36385 >Even dementia ridden Biden calls the raised gas prices the "Putin Price Hike" because he knows Putin is in control of prices not him.* Did you even bother to read my post? >>36379 >WWEmperor confirmed This post is so american it hurts to read. Anyone can get arrested or heavily fined for even the slightest thing. Average russian hates him. LMAO at people believing he's anything to fawn over
>>36388 >Anyone can get arrested or heavily fined for even the slightest thing. >Average russian hates him. Wrong on both fronts, try reading less Russian lib propaganda next time.
>>36377 >"I destroyed out strategic oil reserves meant for wartime while shutting down keystone pipeline and I'm looking at how to steal food from starving Ukrainians before they need it" Wow they aren't even hiding it.
>>36383 >>36382 NATO disbanding with their mission complete and allowing more organic security organizations to take hold would have been the best option.
>>36385 >Even dementia ridden Biden calls the raised gas prices the "Putin Price Hike" because he knows Putin is in control of prices not him.* Dementia-ridden Biden is just doing what every Democrat does and blaming everyone else for his policies falling flat on their face like everyone told him they would.
>>36388 >Anyone can get arrested or heavily fined for even the slightest thing. True but I don't think there's a country left on Earth where that wouldn't happen if you are worth enough to be considered a stink when airing it. >Average russian hates him. It would be funnier if that were true but he's got one of the best approval ratings in the world even after adjusting for narcissisms in polling.
>>36385 >reptilians not included Friendly reminder there's been more reports about snake people than greys from several people inside the industry in the last 30 years, russians included if you believe the lights-off hall story.
>>36387 >>36388 Classic german sense of humor, nice people but unable to detect sarcasm or hyperbolic statements
>YURI WAR BRIEFING Slavyansk: Russian offensive resumed near Dolina towards Slavyansk after several days of regrouping. Gorskoye-Zolotoye: number of the prisoners is lower than expected, apparently a significant number of UA troops managed to withdraw. Lisichansk: apparently, a withdrawal orders have been given to the Lisichansk group of Ukrainian troops, but some notable number of the units are unable to comply. Watch the Lisichansk oil refinery - if its taken, the grouping is surrounded. Possible breakthrough attempt this night. >State of the fronts as of 20:00 MSK of June, 23. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GusaiGCN6vQ Sorry for the Jewtube link. But on Rumble I cannot find Yuri's war briefing videos. Also this video is for 22 June. But the video for the green text ought to release on this YouTube channel tomorrow, probably. Moreover this war briefing stuck out to me because Ukraine is apparently doing the bizarre thing of (attempting) to retreat from an obviously lost position, even a strategic position like Lisichansk.
>>36402 >Sorry for the Jewtube link. But on Rumble I cannot find Yuri's war briefing videos. Rumble's a separate video platform rather than an aggregate, so unless someone uploads it there it won't be present. Thanks for the link!
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https://archive.ph/uiRhv It look's like Ike's prophecy is finally coming true and the American people are tired of foreign wars that have nothing to do with them.
>>36408 Awesome. They'll still have to throw off the yoke of Israel and the Holocaust before they can do anything though.
>>36408 I'm amazed that tweet hasn't been deleted, and the user banned. I'll give it some time.
>>36408 Gas prices weren't even Putin's doing though. It was Biden's brilliant quasi-green new deal terminating the licenses of oil drilling operations in the US that fucked it.
>>36415 You know if "progressives" were actually progressive then we'd already be living in a atomic powered proto-pulp scifi world instead of splitting time between using middle eastern crude and a so-called green energy boondogle that will never work, not at the scale of civilization that we're living at and desire to keep living at.
>>36408 I'd love to kill that piece of shit with my bare hands.
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>>36400 >the lights-off hall story sauce?
>>36416 I do wonder what happened to the old progressive movement(s). Things like trannyshit is literally the polar opposite of the postgender movement and the like and it seems to have vanished overnight some time in the last five years or so.
>>36420 I don't know how to search it, i just remember reading it from two separate sources which could be russian tabloids badly translated Chunk of the story is about a russian rock/pop band frontman doing a gig in some fancy political meeting for browny borsch points, some of the backscene string pullers and tough officials were there to look at the ladies and talk in whispers. Anyways the story supposedly goes that while gigging the lights went off (i think with a flash even) and he glimpsed the audience and then back to his stage/band to see everything was okay, but he recoiled in panic to see the audience again because he thought he saw something weird, he confirmed it and after that played one more song and bailed hard to tell the story later. What he saw while some of the audience members were adjusting to the darkness is where the controversy and interpretation begins. I searched for generic terms but i don't seem to find the sources, i read it time ago in either endchan /new/ or the old place's /pol/ which had /x/ threads before they were banned along with the book/pdf threads. It kinda goes like the Billy Corgan hotel room story but not quite as hard and explicit as he tells it.
>>36415 That's the best part is only gas hikes in the last month or so can reasonably be blamed on Putin due to how slow the economy is, and given Biden's track record even that can't be confirmed. $2 gas is probably a pipe dream within our lifetimes since it only hit that low because of Chink flu making oil companies pay people to buy their barrels, gas should be around $3 to represent a healthy economy, but that's still a $2 price cut.
>>36416 Nuclear is still borrowed time as well. We've got enough uranium to power the world, but only for about 200-250 years. The whole idea was always nuclear in order to give physicists the century to three centuries they need to develope a working prototype fusion reactor.
>>36422 I'm skeptical with anything regarding snakes since snakes are one of those critters that have been burned into the subconscious of mankind as a danger/threat. Consider that there are snakes that developed marksman accuracy to spit shit into your eyes solely because of monkeys fucking with them for hundreds of thousands of years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnFRlh_My8I Belarusian man explaining that the Russians are making their gains a little too quickly and might want to slow down before they get caught in a pincer due to overconfidence.
>>36425 I agree, i might add that they are the most far out looking creatures aside from insects hence the repulsion (crocs, snakes, monitors, komodos) although the scaly fuckers also display more independent thoughts and behavior than well the bugs. Thing that makes me wonder is how prevalent the reports of such things, in somewhat consistent form, appear in many cultures and usually doing the same things along with silly fuckers in the media getting tape over their mouths very quickly for daring mentioning things related to the topic. The ruskie one made me wonder even more because it's one of those instances that happened outside the US. Polite sage due to wildly off-topic OR IS IT
>>36424 Still it's better than what we're currently doing.
>>36424 Fission is borrowed time for fission. The biggest asteroid mining operation is likely to be for fissile materials, which are extremely plentiful in both rims.
>>36388 >Anyone can get arrested or heavily fined for even the slightest thing. Average russian hates him. You just performed actionable act of libel. Thats 500-2000$ fine or jailtime. Enjoy your stay. >>36428 They have been building up speed in the corner for three months, with the troop concentration in there they can manage the push without getting encircled. Besides, ukrops are not known for their manevours/
>>36382 >The best fucking thing to happen would be for all the new NATO members to leave NATO and create their own mutual defense pact organization Isn't Visregard set up explicitly for that but for Eastern European countries?
>>36435 No, Visretard are just a local cooperation group with little authority if any.
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>Ukrainian troops have received order to retreat from Sieverodonetsk, says local governor Serhiy Haidai Hence, real Russian occupation would include Sewerdonuts in this map. These are some mad gains for RU comparatively judged to anything in this embarassing shitshow war. So long for another 1 month stalemate either way.
>>36433 >They have been building up speed in the corner for three months Do they have enough to teleport the VDV into the White House in half an A press? >>36437 Nice Carpathian benis.
>>36438 Come now, people are dying. You cannot joke about these things. An A press is an a press. you can't say it's only a half
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>>36437 Gorskoe - LPR Flag and surrender. Current Zolote encirclement map.
>>36437 I've heard few analysts make a statement that Russia is methodicaly moving now, and actually destroying Ukrainian equipment and manpower as their primary focus and taking land as secondary objective and only where they have enough manpower to hold it or achieve encirclements, since they're stretched thin, and relying more on elastic defense where you're not advancing, as seen at Kherson. It would explain why they leverage massive amounts of artillery, to make up for their numbers inferiority.
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>1 Caught by the 6th detachment of B.A.R.S., consisting of volunteers attached to the army of the defenders of the LPR. >2 Flag of Victory over the Zolotoye/Katerinovka military-civilian administration building. >3 bodies found at the river near Mariupol >4 VDV moving to the front
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>1 “zelensky has sold you out like he sold out Azov. No help is coming. You are encircled. There’s no way out. Save your lives and surrender.” >2 Kherson
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Photos from Novotoshkovskoye
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Some anti-russian things to balance things out. >il-76 crashlanded tonight. >rocket failure. I think I saw this webm already months ago but it is currently spammed as great ukrop victory >himars are in https://streamable.com/kppqja >chief of kherson gets nicked
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>>36449 >3rd pic. >It becomes routine. >routine. AFAIK he is the first confirmed Khersonian official that is KIA from an individual attack. Moreover there have been several thwarted individual attacks throughout the war, i.e. in Crimea, up to and during Victory Day. And almost certainly there are more thwarted attacks than reported. But are the Ukrops going to report that? No. And so it's not that I mind anti-Russian stuff because it is anti-Russian. But it is because Ukrops are physically incapable of not spinning it into some Disney bullshit that makes it sound like Ukraine is already occupying the Kremlin.
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>>36454 Moreover, as cold as it sounds, the man who died was a literally who in the grand scheme of things. He didn't even have anything to do with the military. And so Ukrops do no more than cheer for more of the same of what has been happening for 8 years already. Source: https://t.me/intelslava/31818 https://archive.ph/wbVYv
>>36455 >department of family, youth and sports What a (((coincidence))).
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>>36463 Nice. A+
>>36444 >Third video >Burning to death What a shitty way to die.
>>36449 >2nd 'boomerang' missile Looks like a curved arc, that seems like a returning missile based on the viewpoint it is recorded from. The missile is launched from the hill in the background and it goes down into the town in the foreground. The lighting on the hill is nearer the viewer when it comes down, confirming this. So it is NOT returning to the launch point as NPCs claim. >>36444 >3rd video burnt to death The circular wires (that were tire beads) over the bodies suggest Ukrainians burnt alleged traitors with 'necklaces' (The old South African method of burning tires around the neck or on the body)
>>36465 The teeth are removed too. This was more than an execution. It was a coverup.
Video footage coming in, Russian soldiers are allegedly inside Azot plants
There's something oddly satisfying in watching tiktoktards getting rekt
>>36473 >Azov >now Azot Ukrainians really lack imagination when naming their plants huh. When is the Azog plant siege coming?
>>36475 Azot means nitrogen in slav. It was chemical fertilizer plant.
>>36412 I doubt anyone ever will since both sides are compromised
>>36401 How do you know that guy is even German?
>>36392 >Wrong on both fronts, try reading less Russian lib propaganda next time. Try reading less RT then. Go on any imageboard or Russian site and the only thing they even talk about is how much they hate him
>>36486 >Go on any imageboard *Russian imageboard
>>36463 Well done, Strelok. I congratulate you. This one took at least 20 minutes with a video editor and Photoshop, far more than most normal posts.
>>36487 >Russian imageboard You realize that russian imageboards are as good an indicator of a regular person's political views as places like recetera are in the west? Their lot are nothing but westernized contrarian retards.
>>36486 >Russian imageboards are representative of the population Next you're going to tell me Twitter represents more than a fraction of 3% of Americans.
Any news from the frontline today?
>The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announces complete liberation of Severodonetsk, Borovskoye, Sirotino and Voronovo Well, I guess that wraps up the great Ukrainian Severodonetsk counter offensive. Also,according to Ukrainians claims, Billy Herrington was killed in Ukraine while fighting for the Russian Army. I didn't even know he was a Chechen, kek.
>>36492 Severodonetsk is pretty much over, work is being done on Lysichansk currently. Once it's done it's only a couple of villages and an oil refinery and Lugansk People's Republic is fully liberated.
>>36492 Russians claim Severodonetsk is fully captured, including Azot chemical works. Lisichansk will maybe last for a few days, no more than a week I guess, as Ukrainians have apparently been retreating from Lisichansk while leaving behind a token defense force to cover the retreat. Still waiting on more video confirmation of these claims, as this is all happening in less than one day. >>36493 That’s funny. But y tho? I know he’s dead for real. But why? I don’t understand. Was he part Russian? Is there a bot running the Ukrainian MoD social media pages now that the previous admin was killed in a Russian missile strike?
>>36493 >Well, I guess that wraps up the great Ukrainian Severodonetsk counter offensive. You say that jokingly but Sverodonetsk had all the fortifications of Azovstal plant so the act of taking it shows just how demoralized the Ukrainians are to the point of immediate surrender from a position they could camp in for months.
>>36495 >That’s funny. But y tho? Probably its trolling, somebody posted a picture of Billy and media up some story for shits and giggles and journos being journos didn't even bother to check information and just posed it hoping to have 'gotcha Russkies' moment. They did that already several times with actors from Red Alert video game.
>>36497 >>36495 My favorite was still the use of Disney star war promotional footage claiming they were Russian soldiers.
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>>36493 I'm surprised Ukrainians are so quick to forget their own heroes.
>>36499 Kek, you mean the Tie Fighter one? >>36500 Billy was a hero to all of us, anon
>>36492 Whenever there's a lack of news, it's either a stalemate or Ukraine is losing territory faster than Russia can report it without harming troop movements.
>>36489 >Photoshop >implying I used gimp2 and shotcut, can't go wrong with free as in freedom software.
>>36485 >How do you know that guy is even German? >unable to detect sarcasm or hyperbolic statements >>36493 >that wraps up the great Ukrainian Severodonetsk counter offensive >>36494 >and Lugansk People's Republic is fully liberated So any guesses what the ostensible justification for continuing onto Odessa will be? Something something snake island or Transnistria maybe. >>36495 >But y tho? It's a borderline meme account if you can onto vodka runes. >>36497 > journos being journos You're being rather generous with that epithet. Probably ЦИПсО (the ukrop IDF/glow niggers).
>>36512 DNR isn't cleared yet even if the LNR was cleared.
The 12 PzH 2000 SPGs that recently arrived in the Ukraine will surely be enough to overcome Russia's artillery superiority and won't be used to shell civilians, right?
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Russian was droned while defecating. Thats it for todays portion of ukrainian propaganda.
>>36519 >Russians are so poor that their soldiers have to defecate in the open without toilets. Heh. Stupid Ruskies.
>>36524 >Ukraine is so underequipped with toilets Russians have to shit in the open My condolences to the Chinese when they inevitably invade India.
>>36524 And here I thought I liked camping. Turns out I'm just poor
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1) administration building of Borovskoye in the LPR 3- 5) Cherkasy dam
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1) Cherkasy dam 3) Azot 5) Konstantinovka industrial facility.
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1) Konstantinovka industrial facility. 2-3) Avdeedvka today 4)As a result of the shelling of the Tavrida drilling platform in the Black Sea by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the helipad on the platform was damaged. 5) Avot
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>>36519 Well that's pretty shitty.
1) McDonald's logo was dismantled in Belgorod, Russia with the song "Goodbye, America" 2) Walking around "Azot" plant. 3) Kiev 4) ukies in Severodonetsk flee into Lisichansk yesterday 5) Lisichansk gelatin plant
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>>36530 Normally I don't watch the flag videos but for some reason the super serious music with them wrapping it on with tape had my sides in orbit.
>>36536 shit the descriptions numbers should be flipped >>36537 yeah they could be cringy at times I post them for confirmed captures 1) streets of Lisichansk still under ukie controlled 2) somewhere in the Lisichansk Oblast front
situation on the Odessa direction and near Snake Island as of 2:30 p.m. on June 26, 2022 by @rybar > On the night of June 25-26, units of a grouping of dissimilar forces of Ukraine carried out a massive shelling of the positions of the Russian Armed Forces on Snake Island. >Barrel artillery, including 155 mm M777 howitzers, and Western-made MLRSs were used. Three MiG-29 fighters and one Su-25 attack aircraft, probably taken off from the Voznesensk airfield, were operating in the area south of Zatoka. > According to a Russian Defense Ministry press release, air defense units shot down the Su-25 aircraft as well as 12 artillery and MLRS rounds. >Another bombardment was preceded by increased activity of the US Air Force and NATO Air Force reconnaissance aircraft flights over the territory of Romania and the Black Sea water area - at least 10 units. >The day before the previous attempted attack on the Snake River on 20 June exactly the same picture was observed: at least 10 reconnaissance planes were in the air (against the "usual" outfit of up to six aircraft). >The Ukrainian command said after the failed attempt on June 20 that the AFU would continue attacks on the island until its complete liberation. During the night, there was probably an assessment of the state of the air defense systems on Snake (positions, number of systems and ammunition). >As in the previous case, various types of reconnaissance aircraft were active in the air: electronic and radio reconnaissance and long-range radar detection. In the coming days we should expect a more intense attack on the island's garrison. >It is for this purpose that the American leadership has additionally transferred 18 patrol boats to the "mosquito fleet". It is not ruled out that the surface equipment is either on its way or has already been delivered to the Ukrainians. As a rule, the official approval of the bill takes place some time after the actual shipment of military aid. >>36538 third image related
Patrick did his first foray into the Kharkiv region. I like the man at the 30ish minute mark. >"Don't show my face on camera, I don't want to be on camera" >"This is going to be broadcasted though." >"On Russian television?" >"To the world. He's an American." >Guy looks dumbfounded for a second then goes into full details The people in this episode look so dead to the world... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iFv5jxInOc
>>36519 Do Russian soldiers get standard-issue black briefs, or do they have to buy their own underwear?
>>36542 Russian soldiers get standard-issue olive green undergarments, however it's been noted on a few occasions that the Russians have been caught stealing underwear and boots from Ukrainian men suggesting their own may not be up to the task.
>>36533 >last vid What kind of ammo and belt are those at the end?
>>36538 >2) somewhere in the Lisichansk Oblast front Refinery?
>>36538 >>36539 Why the hell does ukraine want snake island so badly? It can't be for a moral victory at this point because repeated failures are going to make it seem like the price was too high even if they pull it off. I can only guess at two possibilities. A: whathisname wants to kill as many of his own people as possible or B: They want to capture snake island so that the US can offload all sorts of missiles and shit there. B seems highly unlikely though.
>>36546 Snake Island allows the Russians to keep an eye on what American reconnaissance aircraft are doing and endangers shipments from Romania into Ukraine or from the Black Sea into Ukraine. Ukraine is currently going broke because they can't ship out grain fast enough (in three months they shipped 1/6th of what they would normally ship in 1 month) and outside of America (American currency not being particularly trusted by the world right now), everybody else is calling on Ukraine to start paying some of their debts back in grain if they can't pay it in money. Russia doesn't particularly want or need Snek Island in relation to their overall operation, however Ukraine would greatly benefit from reducing Russian naval presence and/or securing a sea trade route, so they really do need it.
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>>36545 >Refinery? could be. reports O group has fully captured Volcheyarovka and rumors that Topolevka is under russian control
>>36550 Maybe i'm just in a melancholic mood, but damn, looking at those rotting corpses i can't help but think about how not so long ago they were people, they laughed and cried, they had relationships, things they liked, things they hated, etc, yet now they're nothing more than food for animals and insetcs, all due to geo-political issues they had no control over.
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Civilies in Severodonetsk industrial zone were transferred to Starobelsk but about a third refuse to leave Severodonetsk, said the republic's ambassador to the Russian Federation Rodion Miroshnik.
>>36551 That corpse at 35 is a nigger, not a person.
>>36549 But it's obvious they wont ever get snake island back. They're just sending men to die and equipment being destroyed is my point. All trying to snake island will do is reduce their ability to defend on their other fronts. I can't believe they don't see that.
>>36550 1) another video from Volcheyarovka 2) Gorskoye, a civilian car was blown up on one of the mines rest are videos of ukies
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1-3)Mayaki, Odessa pics 4-5) Kharkov
Russia is claiming that Ukraine is sending completely untrained (not even basic boot camp) to the front lines, so they went and blew up the training camps. There has been a movement of Ukrainian troops from the boot camps not hit towards the front line near Bakhmut. >>36554 >But it's obvious they wont ever get snake island back. It's obvious after the Russians reinforced it, but that could have been a bluff. >They're just sending men to die and equipment being destroyed is my point. The periodic attacks made sense. Ukraine still has superior numbers even if their troops are fatigued, and you can only stuff so many soldiers into one area so it makes sense to try and take the island and keep the Russians on their toes. The most recent attack was an attempt by the Ukrainian MOD to test out American howitzers (they had been trained on them but hadn't deployed them prior to that) and it worked out quite well for them since they managed to strike civilian oil refineries near Snake island. Russian MOD says they destroyed the howitzers but there is no proof of the howitzers, only the aircraft (which Ukraine appears to have an excess of for some reason). I agree that any further attacks would be silly since it's now established that the Russians weren't bluffing with their defenses, and that the attacks seem silly from the perspective of troop retention, but for the Ukrainians warm bodies are the one thing they have an excess of.
Professor Mearsheimer's analysis of the Ukrainian war. Nothing new for you or me, but it's a good "introduction video" explaining/attacking Western narratives to get to the empirical truth of the matter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRDt2NWmlV4
What does /k/ think the final outcome of this war will be? A stalemate?
>>36564 Honestly WWIII. NATO is already alluding to helping Ukraine come August/September if there is still a country to indoctrinate. That aside, I expect that Ukrainians will turn against their leaders either from fatigue or from starvation by September/October.
In other news, the month of grace period on Russia's nonpayment of bonds has passed. Time to start seizing Russian assets. https://archive.ph/T95UU
>>36566 This is less Russians saying "we won't pay our debts" and more westerners saying "we won't accept your payments" really.
>>36567 Taiwanese were the first to have the grace period expired, so its them. It's also in the contracts: The bond contract specifies payment in Euro or Dollar. A ruble payment is not in the contract. If Russia wanted to pay in ruble, they should've written the contract that way. They didn't. You can't retroactively change payment currency and claim you're totally fulfilling your contractual obligations.
>>36568 Russia would be perfectly able to pay in euro/dollars too, except the part where the western countries froze these assets themselves. It's kinda like somebody stealing your wallet first and then asking you to give back the money you owe.
>>36566 If you have the money, are willing to pay, and try to pay, but the banks refuse to process the payment, that's not a real default.
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>>36558 >The periodic attacks made sense. Ukraine still has superior numbers even if their troops are fatigued, and you can only stuff so many soldiers into one area so it makes sense to try and take the island and keep the Russians on their toes. Except even if they managed to capture it it would get shelled to shit by remnants of black sea fleet. >The most recent attack was an attempt by the Ukrainian MOD to test out American howitzers (they had been trained on them but hadn't deployed them prior to that) m777 were used before, there is drone footage and proof of their destruction/capture by russians, dating months back at that. >and it worked out quite well for them since they managed to strike civilian oil refineries near Snake island. As far as I know the platforms got droned. I think vid related was lauded as an attack on the platforms. Also there >>36533 is a pic claiming to be post-attack platform. >Russian MOD says they destroyed the howitzers but there is no proof of the howitzers, only the aircraft (which Ukraine appears to have an excess of for some reason). See: >>36156 >>36159 These are attributed to a small island on Odessas coast.
I am going to ask the most controversial thing that i have not seen get addressed so far. Who is responsible for the current state of /k/ (the one we all came here from) and why was it allowed like that ? On the whole website there is ONE fucking general called "comfy happening in Ukraine General" (not even ug as it was originally called a decade ago) and that too is full of faggots blogposting and shills trying to derail it any chance they get. I asked this question and i got banned from that site for a month.
>>36519 Shouldn't make me laugh but that centrifugal force tho
>>36565 >Honestly WWIII. I agree but this is the dumbest of all fucking possible reasons to bomb the the northern hemisphere back 50 to 100 years. It's slavs righting slavs. The killing and war is bad but it's really not anyone else's problem or business. And it all ultimately derived from Washington elites getting their tranny panties in a wad over Russia. https://archive.ph/CPzJ8 I don't know if I fully buy this explanation but it's an interesting and dreadful possibility.
>>36572 >Who is responsible for the current state You know the answer as it applies to almost everything nowadays
>>36572 You talking about cuckchan or 8kunt? Because cuckchan is controlled opposition and is filled with glowniggers and 8kunt is a cuckservative cult that prays to Q.
>>36576 >>36578 Yeah 8kunt is dead. Glowniggers are trying their best to fuck that site up even more, they didnt stop file hosting for nothing. cuckchan is totally cucked, i thought they'd stop after making their "special" discord servers but guess i was wrong. I havent seen a place get astroturfed into oblivion this much and this fast ever before. >>36565 There will never be a WW3. US/NATO armies dont have the man power needed for what follows after the nukes fall. Neither does Russia. The current idea with MAD is everyone gets atleast one nuke to major civilian centres, industrial backbones. EMPs that will cause electronics to burn out and most likely all satelites going offline because they will most likely use those "domino effect" space weapons that even Russia leaked in one of the MoD videos. Once the stand off weapons end, then you need actual foot soldiers (mechanized or otherwise) to go through. Just have a look at the state of most of the countries's armies right now. Politicians and journalist, no matter where they are from, are usually always the most spineless, brainless faggots who do whatever their 'sponsor' wants them to. They'll shit themselves 10 times just thinking that they have to go to 'war'. Most countries have turned into welfare states and no one knows how these welfare 'enjoyers' will act when the governments stop funding them because there is a war to fight. The world we live in is hedonistic, everyone only pursues the next rush they can get. And to think they willl just let go of all of it is absurd. They simply wont. They have been getting away with doing all sorts of shit but just making sure a tipping point is never reached. The whole narrative with the shot was that in order to get your freedumbs and be a hedonist again, you "should" to take it. and people complied. All while politicians and the rich lived their lifestyle like they always have. Same with this war, and whatever other escalation that will happen. Russia isnt fighting how it should, US isnt giving Ukraine the weapons it should have to actually create a threat for Russia. Poland has been trying to incite Russia into conflict for so long, same for Lithuania. This 'default' that they created is only to seize Russian property over seas. Its all an elaborate IRL shitpost where hapless and clueless idiots from either side are dying for reasons unbeknowst to them, you or me. When Zelsinky was touting around in Kiev unharmed and unbothered, it was pretty clear then. And the fact they 'negotiated' deals with Russia through the Gayest Ally instead of USA. The gayest allly cucked out and didnt even deliver its AShMs and NLOS systems after some botched up story about how S300s painted their jets flying over Syria. tl;dr; shits fucked, nothing will change. thanks for reading my blog.
>>36575 >Satirical simulation. If there is another thing God loves after his Son, then it’s irony.
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Situation on the Severodonetsk-Lysychansk direction as of 14:00 June 27, 2022 by @rybar >Allied forces of the Russian Armed Forces, the NM of the LNR and DNR, as well as volunteer formations are developing an offensive to encircle the enemy's Severodonetsk-Lysychansk grouping. > Units of the 25th Army Division of the AFU attempted a counterattack on Volcheyarovka to prevent the encirclement ring from closing north of the village. The attack was repulsed: fighting continues in Maloryazantsevo to the north of Volcheyarovka. >Assault units of the Russian Armed Forces, supported by army aviation, broke through the AFU defenses west of Volcheyarovka and occupied part of the territory of the Lisichansk refinery. Fighting is going on in the western part of the refinery and the village of Verkhnekamenka with units of the 25th OvdbR, 24th Ombra and the 17th detachment of the AFU. >The fighting in Maloryazantsevo and at the oil refinery actually means narrowing of the encirclement ring around the Severodonetsk-Lysychansk grouping. It is now possible to leave the outlined cauldron by the only remaining road along the bank of the Seversky Donets through Belogorovka, which is under the fire control of the Russian Armed Forces. >In Lysychansk, there is fighting on the southern outskirts near the RTI plant, Bila Gora and the glass factory. > On the eastern bank, the mopping-up of Borovskoye and Severodonetsk continues. Several hundred civilians were evacuated from the shelters of the Azot plant.
Results of fire attacks on targets in Ukraine overnight from June 26 to 27, 2022 by @rybar > In northeastern Ukraine, the Russian Armed Forces struck enemy positions in Khrenovka and Yanzhulovka in the Chernihiv region, as well as Slavgorod in the Sumy region. >In Kharkiv, locals reported four rocket attacks last night. Explosions were heard (https://t.me/rybar/34432) on the southern outskirts of the city, near Saltovka and in Pesochin. According to some reports, AFU positions in Kharkiv's School No. 29 were destroyed. >In addition, in the region, the RF Armed Forces hit enemy positions in Chuguev, Ukrainka, Zamulovka, Shestakovo, Peremoga, Russkaya Lozovaya, Grushevaha, Adamovka and Khrestishche. >During the night and morning hours, Russian forces launched missile and artillery strikes against AFU facilities in Sloviansk. The Ukrainian army's locations in Mykolayivka, Mayaki and Raigorodka were also hit in the suburbs. >In Donbass, the Russian Armed Forces continued to fire artillery at the enemy in Lysychansk and at the Lysychansk refinery. In the Donetsk direction, strikes were launched against Ugledar, Marinka, Avdiivka and Krasnohorivka. >In the Zaporizhia direction there were artillery duels near Vasylivka and near Poloh. >On the Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog direction, local sources reported that Russian missiles were launched at Nikolaev, but no information was later published about explosions in the city. >At the same time, at night, the Russian Armed Forces struck an AFU barracks in Bereznevatom, which may have killed more than 100 Ukrainian fighters. >On this section of the front, artillery duels also continued along the entire line of contact >A missile strike truck an ammunition depot for American M777 howitzers in the village of Mayaki in the Odessa region at night. One of the missiles was shot down by Ukrainian air defenses. >Ukrainian formations, for their part, struck Zimogorye in the morning hours, where, according to preliminary reports, a munitions depot might have detonated. >As before, the AFU struck Donetsk, Makiivka, and the outskirts of Gorlovka.
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>>36582 liveuamap makes the map look like the oil refinery it's being attacked the south and left side, could be possible that the russians are encircling the oil refinery before sieging it.
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>>36584 Quite possible there's on ground fighting right now, and not just artillery barrages. Refinery is next logical step for Russian advance.
>>36579 >Politicians and journalist, no matter where they are from, are usually always the most spineless, brainless faggots who do whatever their 'sponsor' wants them to. That's just the western world anon, which is why I'm scared and why I hate these politicians and the people who fellate them with all my might. They take all of what we have for granted and bitch and moan if anyone tries to pull them to reality. >tl;dr; shits fucked, nothing will change. Anon, something is coming and you will see it in the next 20 years.
>>36564 It is impossible for it to not be a stalemate. After the ork hordes become exhausted from too much pillaging and raping, and stop, the USA will have another Mission Accomplished moment in declaring NATO fought Russia to a stalemate. And that the next step to occupying the Kremlin is a major counter offensive that will happen next month year decade.
>>36558 >only the aircraft (which Ukraine appears to have an excess of for some reason) DPA brought this up today in his summary too. I wonder how they are getting them into the Ukraine unmolested when the Russians just hit a training camps near Poland?
>>36591 And we would know if they were flown into the country from the radar and ruskie accusations... Underground factory made in an old bunker under one of the nuke plants? As far as I know soviets kept stockpiles of factory equipment to rebuild shit after the nukes fell. You could transport disassembled planes in normal trucks, I guess? They would still need a way to launch them and with satelite+ tracking ukr planes flight it could be quickly identified. Just a schizo tier theory.
>Iran and Argentina applied to join the BRICS.
Kremenchug shopping mall
1) ukies attacking Zmiinyi Island (music warning) 2) Luhansk - a huge column of smoke from Zymogorye 3) Kiev yesterday 4)Fleeing Ukrainian soldiers say that their deputy commander should be shot. 5) Howitzer work (music warning)
>>36586 >Anon, something is coming and you will see it in the next 20 years. Meteor?
>>36596 Why would Ukrainians park the mall on Russian cruise missile path? thinkingemoji.jpeg
>>36568 >Western countries freeze Russian assets >Western countries artificially reducing Russian currency value tenfold to "offset" Russia's artificial twofold price increase >"Russia can pay in Western currency if they want to :^)" Yeah at a 500 percent markup because they froze Russia's foreign assets already.
>>36572 Cuckchan or 8kunt? This board is not a spiritual successor of the former and has been separated from them since the gamergate shit years ago, and the latter is full of Qboomers if it even exists still.
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>>36595 BRICSIA soon >>36603 Here's a taste of my power!
>>36591 >>36592 Yeah, building them domestically underground seems to be the only reasonable answer, but where are they getting the pilots? I'd think most Ukrainian pilots would have successfully left the country months ago since they can apply their craft in other countries. Unless Ukraine went through the same crap as Canada/America during COVID and they just have unemployed civilian pilots by the dozen?
>>36613 Probably merc pilots is my guess. The West's media is dead silent on the presence of foreign volunteers outside of the Reddit brigade.
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>>36579 I hope you are right, but short of the archive linked in >>36575 I'm worried the West will do something thinking Russia will just bend over backwards and then we'll have WWIII om our hands when they don't. >Once we step aside from culture war resentments and focus on the hard realities of geopolitics, it is clear that Russia will eventually get its way because it cares more about Ukraine than the US does, and has the ability to threaten or use military force to get what it wants. When resolve and capabilities line up on the same side, that side is going to win. And the reason that Americans don’t care about Ukraine is that Ukraine objectively does not matter to the US. All the sophistry in the world coming from MSNBC hosts, ex-generals on the payrolls of defense contractors, and think tank analysts can’t change people’s perceptions here. >The only questions now are how far Putin will go, and how tough American sanctions will be. Washington is now deluding itself into believing that it can help facilitate an insurgency in Ukraine. This will not happen. One of the best predictors of insurgency is having the kinds of terrain that governments cannot reach, like swamps, forests and mountains. Ukraine is the heart of the great Eurasian steppe. It has some forests in the northwest and the Eastern Carpathians in the southwest, but Russia is likely to at most occupy the East and center of the country, where there are more Russian speakers, and give itself final say over whatever new government forms in Kiev. The two maps below show the percentage of Ukraine covered in forest by region, and that country’s presidential election outcome in 2010. >In the second map, blue represents support for Yanukovych (pro-Russia), while yellow is support for Tymoshenko (pro-West). As you can see, the most Russian areas are those with terrain least conducive towards fighting an insurgency. So Russia will have overwhelming military power in an area with a great deal of popular support on terrain that will make life for any rebels extremely difficult. Its army would be wise to basically leave a chaotic rump Ukraine in the West to its own devices. >Even setting aside the geography of the country, there is no instance I’m aware of in which a country or region with a total fertility rate below replacement has fought a serious insurgency. Once you’re the kind of people who can’t inconvenience yourselves enough to have kids, you are not going to risk your lives for a political ideal. When the US invaded Afghanistan and Iraq, their total fertility rates were 7.4 and 4.7, respectively. Chechnya, where Russia has faced insurgencies in recent decades, experienced a population boom after the collapse of the Soviet Union and was still well above replacement with a TFR of 2.6 in 2020, down from 3.4 in 2009, when the last Chechen war ended. Ukraine is at 1.2. We see numbers like this and don’t stop to appreciate the wide chasm that separates the spiritual lives of nations where the average person has 1 kid from those with 3 or more, much less 6 or 7, each. >On fertility, Russia isn’t that much better than Ukraine, but it’s got the tanks and a powerful air force, and the side that wants to fight a guerrilla war has to be the one that is willing to take a much larger number of casualties. There’s a consistent pattern of history where there’s a connection between making life and being willing to sacrifice it. This, by the way, is also why Hong Kong was easily pacified when China started clamping down, and why Taiwan will fold and not fight an insurgency if it ever comes down to it. >A weakness of the American empire is that it promotes ideals few are willing to fight and die for. The US faced vicious insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan because religion and nationalism are more powerful motivating forces than a concern with the western definition of “democracy,” and Iraq was only pacified through Shia religious militias with ties to Iran. In Ukraine, the American establishment has been embarrassed by the reality that neo-Nazis and nationalist organizations were instrumental in overthrowing Yanukovych and have helped form the new regime. It likewise wasn’t an accident that the US had to rely on religious fundamentalists to fight the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s. Even within the United States, liberal elites argue that they’re bringing women’s rights to backwards cultures while wringing their hands about the fact that Americans who actually fight our wars tend to be sympathetic towards “right-wing extremism.” This is the most overlooked contradiction of the American empire; you can bomb and drone those who resist, but Washington finds itself less effective the more it needs to rely on ground forces that are willing to make sacrifices for its ideals. Anon should read the full archive it's a good piece.
>>36575 >>36615 >WWIII will start over anti gay rights. >But not just any anti gay rights. >But anti gay rights from a nation that at least claims to be a homogenous Christian nation. Possible. Stupid, but possible. God said to man to procreate before God said Don't eat from that tree. And so homosexuality is significantly symbolic of overthrowing God's first sovereign command to humans.
>>36606 Yes. If Russia wants their assets, they should end the actions that caused them to be frozen. It was their actions that caused their inability to pay, thus "willingness to pay" is a laughable defense. If they wanted to pay, they could simply leave Ukraine and make peace. >>36613 Consider that volunteers with military experience get Ukrainian citizenship.
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>>36618 If Russia had completely pulled out a month ago, thrown Putin to a tribunal, and did every other ridiculous claim Ukraine has demanded, do you seriously believe the West would have accepted payments instead of defaulting the Russians anyways and saying it was their fault as punishment?
>>36618 I might have agreed if these sanctions weren't unilateral.
>>36579 >I havent seen a place get astroturfed into oblivion this much and this fast Can confirm, sounds like we are joking but it's so obvious it's scary, someone posts something tricky or really out there and the thread gets tons of activity sidetracking or sliding it yet the thread doesn't bump. There's still nuggets of gold but saying it's a sea of piss and shit would be underselling the place, you really have to read every single post for days to get someone who replies something worthwhile and they will usually do belittling the place to begin with. t. lurked again some months ago to check on normalfag trends and info on niche threads
>>36622 Once someone makes a decision, especially an unpopular one handed top-down by the moderation and invoked on the users, they tend to dig in and double down when attacked. I think you are just seeing the natural result of that because of a few Ukrainian janitors.
>>36579 >they didnt stop file hosting for nothing lolwut? so 8kunt is no longer an imageboard?
It's a series of tubes!
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>>36582 >>36583 Sound like serious damage, AFU must still have substantial numbers in the cauldron areas - any info on this? >>36585 >Refinery is next logical step for Russian advance. Is refinery expected to be FUBAR or can Russians use it to supply fuel? >>36586 >fellate them with all my might n-no homo? >>36619 >defaulting the Russians anyways and saying it was their fault as punishment That's punishing the debt holders not so much Russia. Anyone who matters understands full well this is far more a reflection of 'murica chicanery than Russia's debt worthiness. >>36625 >8kunt is no longer This too shall pass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuzDQMHxu3s Russians found a chink in Kiev's armor.
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>>36629 >AFU must still have substantial numbers in the cauldron areas - any info on this? Best I can find is Belarusian Man's report from yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQg5UfqFgSI You may also want to check militaryland's maps since they seem to be as accurate as any fog of war simulator can be.
>>36613 I can understand a soldier of fortune or even a pirate, but how do countries manage to get mercenary air pilots?
>>36633 Not every Sky King crashes I guess.
>>36629 >Is refinery expected to be FUBAR or can Russians use it to supply fuel? So far, I haven't seen any visuals from boots on the ground, but I think refinery will not be operation any time soon. There's fighting going on over there and I doubt Ukrainians will not go scorched earth on it the second they realize they can't hold it anymore.
>western cheerleaders posting videos of Ukrainian drone dropping VOG grenade on empty Russian truck >Russians posting videos of annihilating entire Ukrainian military convoy with heavy artillery One of these things is not like the other.
>>36629 >Is refinery expected to be FUBAR or can Russians use it to supply fuel? Ukrainians don't expect to ever regain the territories they are losing so they have been salting the earth (probably literally too but no proof yet) on their way out.
1) Zolote 2) lysychansk Gym, Russians have pushed deeper 3)Kremenchug 4)Fermmash plant in Slavyansk 5)Kremenchug
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https://archive.ph/KdKq1 >>36638 descriptions numbers should be flipped I am sorry for fucking it up again.
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>>36625 >>36629 >so 8kunt is no longer an imageboard? pic mostly related. >>36624 I dont think we ever had anything like that before. All opinions and sides were discussed on that board, always have been. It started getting bad when "you are ARMAtard" became a norm and we all should have nipped that in the bud. But we didnt, and here we are today. In unrelated news, Russia confirmed the use of HIMARS, using a GMLRS (GPS+Intertial guidance) M30 rocket fitted with cassette type ammo on a target in Luhansk (the 70 km variant). I dont know how many rockets were fired because the launcher can hold 12 (6x2) rockets of this type. Pic #4. >According to the representative office of the LPR in the SCCC, this morning, from the direction of Artemovsk (Bakhmut), a missile from the MLRS M142 Himars was released along Perevalsk.
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Man, those IHPS look like absolute fucking shit.
>Killnet hacker group claims to have isolated 70% of Lithuania's entire network infrastructure [from the world.] Well, I guess that's one way to respond to a blockade with a blockade of sorts of your own.
>>36644 Why does everyone call it a blockade? Lithuania isn't blocking international air and waterways. Only the land corridor that is in Lithuania is no longer being allowed for Russia to use. That's not a blockade.
>>36645 If sea blockades are called blockades despite them not blocking land transport then this counts too.
>>36645 >Only the land corridor False. They're also blocking air traffic.
>>36645 blockade noun 1. an act or means of sealing off a place to prevent goods or people from entering or leaving Example: "they voted to lift the blockade of major railway junctions" verb 1. seal off (a place) to prevent goods or people from entering or leaving Example: "the authorities blockaded roads in and out of the capital" Maybe because it's the literal definition of a blockade. Something can be both a blockade and a sanction. Lithuania made it clear they were not embargoing Russia, therefore it's a blockade. Do you think a blockade means blocking the entire country on all sides or something equally retarded?
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Came up on this. Not sure how accurate these are, or what's the source. I think destruction of M777 were recorded so there's proof of those, as well as few tanks, SPG's and MRLS. ColonelCassad is pro Russian or an actual Russian. Unknown if he has any affiliation with Russian MoD for sources , so you know, grain of salt and all that.
>>36651 IIRC those numbers sound about right based on OSINT estimates (minus the warm bodies but OSINT takes casualties seriously because human life is important while Ukraine throws warm bodies around like free candy so...). I think Russian estimated are even higher. It's important to note that the Russian MOD is actually pretty conservative in their estimates as compared to Russian propagandist sources, but both probably have higher numbers.
>>36653 >It's important to note that the Russian MOD is actually pretty conservative in their estimates as compared to Russian propagandist sources, but both probably have higher numbers. I've actually noticed this. Few days ago I posted about Russian nuking HQ of UAF and claiming they killed 50+ high ranking officers, and I was very skeptical, but lo and behold, Ukrainians admitted 57 officers died in the attack not even 24h after. This is not the only example. They made claims several times that sounded too good to be true, but few hours later video footage was released to confirm the claims, such as destruction of western howitzers and shot down Ukrainian planes. So I'm thinking numbers released by official Russian MoD pge is pretty reliable. Shame Rybar got their leak in Ukrainian goverment plugged, so they stopped reporting on personnel loss within the UAF.
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https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_197251.htm Vatniggers btfo for all eternity. >inb4 damage control
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@rybar -The Russian Armed Forces crossed the Donetsk River near Privolya, west of Lisichansk, and established a foothold in the area. A few days earlier, the Ukrainian Armed Forces had withdrawn part of the BTGr stationed in Pryvolye in the direction of Seversk. The occupation of Privolya and then Belogorovka will allow the ring around Lysychansk to be closed from the north. Coordinates: 49.000118, 38.252857
>>36658 How's that NATO No Fly Zone over Ukraine coming along? The only ones who shall run damage control is Finland and Sweden if/when they try to become the next Ukraine in believing that an alliance with NATO/EU is a get-out-of-jail free card for starting shit with Russia. >In that meeting, the leaders agreed a trilateral memorandum to address Türkiye’s legitimate security concerns, paving the way for Finland and Sweden’s NATO membership. Watermelon seller wins again. And Sweden continues to prove it is Islam's eternal bitch.
>>36663 >when they try to become the next Ukraine I double dare you, vatnik.
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>>36658 I'm legitimately impressed, but this is basically the worst-case scenario for all involved parties so it's a matter of being impressed by their idiocy to go forward with it. WWIII or NATO falling apart as an organization it is. Cold War 2.0 (technically 3.0 is on, baby. Who will play chicken longer? An unstoppable force or an immovable object?
>>36658 gg, no REEEEEEEEE, Russia. You played and you lost.
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>>36664 Perhaps I'm not well-versed on the matter, but does anything stop Russia from preemptively invading Sweden and taking over while Finland is caught between a rock and a hard place having guaranteed NATO membership but being cut off from NATO? Doing so would prevent Sweden from joining NATO. I mean they could induct them anyways, but they could've done so with Ukraine and didn't have the balls to do it despite training 10k Ukrainians in NATO exercises per month for the last seven years. Even if Russia just took Gotland and Oland, they could pull the same games that they've played in the Sea of Azov and Sweden would be hard-pressed to stop them with the Baltic Sea Fleet located in Kaliningrad/Konigsberg. Sweden's airforce is impressive, arguably the most tech-savvy airforce in the world alongside Japan and America, but much like the Ukrainians it relies on being able to launch it from a limited number of airports in the first place. Finland makes sense joining NATO, but Sweden only loses because they'll get pressured to share their military tech/military intelligence while gaining the ire of an already pissed Russia on their doorstep in the Baltic sea.
>fins had one moment of greatness in their entire history, that still ended in their defeat, and they're still riding the high
>>36668 >Finland makes sense joining NATO, but Sweden only loses because they'll get pressured to share their military tech/military intelligence while gaining the ire of an already pissed Russia on their doorstep in the Baltic sea. Perhaps their department of defense predicted the fall of the Baltic nations and Finland to the Russians in the near future and the government wanted to anticipate such a move? Or it's likely just another SWEDEN YES moment - can't get more migrants without safe passage through Europe. >>36669 The Finns indirectly caused WWII. Had they accepted the original Soviet plans (and then built up their own army instead of following the Soviet demands) the Red Army would not have been humiliated so much as to make Hitler decide to launch Barbarossa.
>>36664 Didn't that war end with the Finns losing more territory than if they had acquiesced to every Soviet demand from the start?
>>36670 >The Finns indirectly caused WWII. Eh,prelude to WW2 is an extremely complex topic. Roots can be traced backed to WW1. Winter war, in combination with great pruge definitely played a role. Consensus is that Germany woud still invade due to the whole lebensraum, food/oil issue and ideological reason, not to mention the whole shrinking market theory and 'vampire economy'. Kinda feel burned out, so I wont go into details. the real reason is the germans wanted to expand east was, that they wanted to be as far away as possible from the eternal anglo
>>36668 This would have every chance of starting WW3. It'd essentially spit in the face of NATO. >Sweden only loses It doesn't. As you said, Russia is already pissed and already threatened Sweden. Russia has a history of following threats with military force. But Russia also has a history of not invading NATO countries. Thus, Sweden gains safety from a coming Russian assault by joining NATO.
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>>36672 >Spoiler Can you blame them?
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Couldn't Russia capture Sweden bloodlessly by dressing up Chechen operatives as poor starving moderate migrants, then have them depose the Swedish government with help from fellow muslims and create a pro-Russian caliphate? Suddenly bombing the refugees you spent so much time and money to traffic across the mediterranean and Roachland for peaceful integration into a modern cosmopolitan anti-racist Europe free of discrimination would be an even tougher sell for natto than militarily invading/defending from some evil Christian Orthodox backwater opposing the sacred American Empire.
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>>36673 >This would have every chance of starting WW3. You say this, but so far Russia should have started WWIII by NATO doctrine several times over and yet everyone except Poland has had cold feet. At this point it seems like it's NATO that's shaking in their boots at the prospect of Russia doing anything, and that's as someone who wants this war to end with Ukraine becoming landlocked and Russia ceasing all further actions against everyone in Europe.
>>36677 Chechens are Caucasian so it would never work. They only let Arab/African Muslims into Sweden, not Asian/Caucasian ones.
Interception of negotiations: Massive missile attack on the territory of Ukraine on June 25, 2022 [ENG SUBS ] switch on subtitles/captions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKCoN2hlS6w&t=7s
>>36687 This is from that chink-in-the-armor attack on Kiev recently? I thought those were surface-to-surface missiles, not aircraft. That makes the situation more dire since I was under the impression that the aircraft strikes are easier to trace than surface-to-surface missiles.
Belarusian man is claiming that the situation in Lysychansk is worse than previously thought for the Ukrainians, and that LNR forces already have 1/3rd of the city under their control. DPA didn't do an update today so chances are he's waiting for more information to come out. Take with a pinch of MSG, as Singaporean-man would say. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MM_wlUqbuqk
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Oh right, it's possible that he's right. After all the entire argument between Zelensky and Zaluzhnyi was over whether to keep Lysychansk and Hirske as outposts to fall like Mariupol (Zelensky's decision) or whether to retreat to the Bakhmut line in order to reduce pressure on Ukrainian soldiers by creating a bottleneck (Zaluzhnyi). They were following Zelensky's plans despite Zaluzhnyi's protests, but the surrender of Hirske against direct orders not to had the Ukrainian oligarchs in a massive shit fit for various reasons (some more dark than others) and effectively forced them to half-assedly adopt Zaluzhnyi's line of defense.
>>36683 >At this point it seems like it's NATO that's shaking in their boots at the prospect of Russia doing anything At this point I don't see how anyone could have a different opinion about it since most of Europe have been basically removing all the funding they can from their militaries and the US has spent the last two years pissing off anybody who would actually want to go and fight a war and replacing anyone competent with niggers and trannies. Russia can pretty much do whatever the fuck they want and all the west can do is shoot themselves in the fucking chest and whine that Russia is being mean for not falling over and dying when they asked them to.
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>>36691 I had impatience with Russia's agonizingly slow approach to war. But now I have impatience with West Ukraine not yet boiling into an open civil war on Poland's doorstep.
Added some new Jewtube channels to the list from a range of viewpoints so that Strelok has the most resources available at his fingertips.
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>>36673 >This would have every chance of starting WW3. It'd essentially spit in the face of NATO. The danger is that it's impossible to know when Russia is just going to McFucking have enough of the motherfucking NATO members on it's motherfucking border and just decide that fortune favors the bold. After all, it's impossible to nuke Russia without also irradiating all of Europe and in the event of a conventional war Europe would be the battle field. Neither of those things would really work out good for Europe and would most likely cause European NATO members that aren't perfidious retarded anglos to reassess the whole situation. Also the Lithuania-Baltic situation might cause enough of an escalation to make a NATO v Russian war happen anyway. It is not a terribly wise idea to back a nuclear armed power into a corner, especially one that in the long run seems to have less to lose than you do from launching the ICBMs than to not.
>>36696 Don't forget one that is largely ideologically driven and which has been ideologically attacked since passing a "don't talk about gay sex in front of children" bill in 2012.
>>36658 Honestly? It changes nothing and is just acceptance of realityy. What, you think current year finland would stay neutral in any kind of scenario where nato fights russia? And Sweden is irrelevent militarilly. The only thing this changes is most likely sweden and finland losing native arms industry in favor of burgerlands, in long term.
Man I wish I could get my hands on some of those ukrainian gib weapons they handed out to civillians earlier on. Would make the whole conflict worth it in my eyes.
>>36308 >>Confirmed that 50 Ukrainian command staff (including the guy running the official Ukrainian MOD twitter page- not their propaganda sidearm) killed in Russian missile strike What, no more “which shrooms you are on?” grade tweets? Aww. That stream of cheerful delusions was one of the few hilarious parts in this mess. >>36491 According to the last Internet poll, 100% Russians use Internet.
Apparently Youtube shills for someone or another are going around defaming DPA as a "pro-Russian" channel because he tells funny jokes and won't use Ukrainian MoD reports unless they are backed up with video evidence. Even the Military Summary folks were having a good chuckle about it today. >>36700 The ultra-propaganda channel still seems to be up and posting. It's just the primary "serious" channel that is no longer posting, or at least wasn't for a while (haven't checked).
Anybody got any further information about allegedly caputed two Cesars by the Russians? Uralvagonzavod made a shitpost and thanked French for the donation of two pieces, but haven't seen any pictures of SPG for confirmation.
>>36702 Correction. It's not a Cesars on the video, it's Pion. But my question still stands regarding the allegedly captured Cesars
>>36698 >And Sweden is irrelevent militarilly. Didn't they have the 4th largest airforce in Europe after Russia, Britain and France?
>>36704 Like he said, irrelevant.
Its a good thing that pro war journos told us that Russia would run out of missiles. They forgot Belarus had a huge stockpile of missiles that is being used now that Russia doesnot have any left. https://youtu.be/RdlWG_pfsHo
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>>36671 yes, but the idea of the red army being a hugely superior force to everyone else on earth was completely shitter shattered in the process. red army was embarrased, stalin was embarrased, rest of the world were laughing their asses off, and it made dolphy think Barbarossa might actually work. there was one contingent the finns destroyed that were armed with drums and brass instruments, they legitimately believed victory was imminent and were marching towards the capital for the victory parade.
>>36707 Interesting that it happened at the same time the Red Army royally buttfucked the Japanese in the east, enough to make them abandon the Siberia invasion plans.
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>>36708 You mean how Edo sickness (beriberi) buttfucked the Japanese after they had already buttfucked the Russians?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jha1seSQbYc DPA seems to somewhat agree with the human waves tactic speculation, and that Ukraine is launching wave tactics on Snek Island with intent to demoralize/fatigue Russian troops and use up their air defenses in preparation for an amphibian assault. If true it's likely Ukraine will take Snake Island some time in the next month. Whether they can hold it or not is an entirely different story.
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Does either side use trench digging machines, or at least civilian bulldozers and whatnot to help with earthworks?
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>>36717 tanks come with dozer blades. There are "recovery vehicles" that help dig trenches. Ukraine developed a PZM-3 armored trencher machine (the blue one in the pictures). USSR had a few machines they used already. Havent seen any pictures of these from DNR/LNR.
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>"By nine o'clock in the evening, the allied forces managed to establish control over the Lisichansk oil refinery. There are four kilometers left: to take Zolotorevka with the long-suffering Belogorovka and finally close the "cauldron".
>>36719 So, how much POW are we talking about this time?
>>36711 It’s hard to believe. Because I thought the point in human wave tactics is overwhelming the enemy with low grade, utterly disposable assets. I didn’t know fighter jets, their pilots, and assault UAV’s are now cheap enough to be disposable? But judging by Hohol reactions to the latest attack, which claims to have destroyed an air defense system, Ukraine wants Snake Island for the easy PR points for justifying more foreign aid, and that’s it. Its long term positional value in a naval blockade is outside of Ukraine’s thinking, I feel.
>>36720 I don't remember any POWs being taken on the Zolote-Girske cauldron, so perhaps Urinians are also going to avoid this encirclement?
>>36722 They took some prisoner, around 50ish by some accounts, they claimed to have killed off a lot more as they tried to evacuate. There are videos of UAF convoys getting hi by artillery, not sure if it's from the said pocket. We'll know soon I guess
>>36719 gg no re see you at bakhmut.
Russians allegedly swapped out Azov PoWs for pilots suggesting they value their pilots more than killing Azov. Not sure how the LNR/DNR feel about that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNEuuPahxmc
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>>36658 The United States agreed to a deal to sell F-16s to Turkey at a heavy discount two hours after Turkey signed a memorandum with Sweden and Finland.
>>36726 Not just LNR/DNR, a lot of Russians are mad about that too. Allegedly the Azovites that were exchanged are in no fighting condition though, with many missing limbs and the like.
>>36726 Some days before this new possible exchange, Chechens apparently also exchanged a notorious lesbian Azov medic for one high ranking Chechen officer. Not sure how I feel about that. It sends mixed signals. The Chechens won't say who they exactly got in the exchange either. And that is more strange to me than the exchange happening at all. Because I would think that playing up how the Chechens got the better trade is a good way to smooth tensions among the public.
>>36728 Well, maybe their justification is that they don't expect to see them on the battlefield and can always recapture them as civilians or something. It makes practical sense but I can imagine how it wouldn't feel right letting them walk away. >>36729 >lesbian Azov medic >lesbian >Azov I'm still trying to piece this one together unless she's super butch and clit-rapes women, but I expect an "Lesbian ravished by Chechen soldiers" editorial before the end of Summer.
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>>36730 >unless she's super butch Here is the real life Azov-chan. You have been warned.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xWpRra7YQ4 Military summary highlights: >Finland joining NATO would make cutting off Kaliningrad much easier explaining the main non-nuclear reason for adding them >Syrian Government officially recognizes the LNR/DNR as sovereign nations right as talks began to induct them into the Russian Federation officially >A referendum in Donetsk could spark an excuse for Russia to officially go to war with Ukraine since the Ukrainians wouldn't be able to resist shelling the civilian centers during/post-referendum >Explained a bit why he thinks Russia will invade Kharkiv first and not Odessa >Avdeevka seems to be the only place the Ukrainians are having any success in right now >Ukrainians are successfully evacuating Lysychansk much to Russian chagrin (estimates are about 90% of Ukrainian soldiers retreated successfully, whatever that means) >Russia pushing towards the landfill again >Walked back his claim that Russia owned 30% of Lysychansk >But insisted that Southern Lysychansk cannot retreat >DPA is saying Pryvilia is devoid of Ukrainian troops while Military Summary is saying there are heavy clashes there but that the town is reduced to ruins so it doesn't matter >There are allegedly about 8,000 Ukrainian soldiers still around Lysychansk and its outskirts so he estimates another week of fighting there Comments section also mentioned something about part of the peace agreement after WWII was that Finland remains a neutral country, so joining NATO can be interpreted as violating that contract and could theoretically be interpreted as an act of War by the Russians (if they want to). In other news... >DPA now supports streaming infrastructure that cannot be censored by Big Tech >Hasas stated he will post videos there that he can't post to Youtube or that get banned from youtube https://rumble.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia >Lithuania is vetoing any attempts by the EU to lift sanctions on Kaliningrad >Using the excuse that once goods reach port in Kaliningrad, Russians will just change the goods from a domestic location to an international location and ship them >Is insisting that any special exceptions must not rely on Lithuania to inspect or otherwise ensure sanctions are being followed >Not to ensure neutrality or prevent bad actors, but because Lithuania doesn't want to deal with anything Russian-related >G7 is trying to scheme to cap oil prices in order to defund Russia >If they do this Russian oil production is threatening that it would fall from 10 million barrels per day to 2 million barrels per day >Even the progressives are coming out screaming because this will raise oil to more than $200/barrel >For perspective oil was $107/barrel back in March and is finally stabilizing at $120/barrel >Some official numbers suggest Russians have 15k-20k Ukrainian PoWs while Ukraine has about 600 to 2k Russian PoWs right now >>36733 Honestly if she grew out her hair/stopped bleaching it and got rid of the earrings she doesn't look that terrible. The tats are a dealbreaker though.
has anyone been archiving these threads?
>>36736 >>36736 I only do a lazy archive if there's not one being made and I'm getting ready to delete them so that anon doesn't yell at me for cleaning house. I don't believe in archiving imageboards so that is my compromise.
>>36735 >Comments section also mentioned something about part of the peace agreement after WWII was that Finland remains a neutral country, so joining NATO can be interpreted as violating that contract and could theoretically be interpreted as an act of War by the Russians (if they want to). The 29 June video on the Alexander Mercouris YouTube channel says about the same thing. We're reaching levels of "Fuck around and find out." I didn't think are possible.
>>36738 I've been listening to that one a bit and will likely continue it at work tomorrow. I'm ten minutes in and it's not bad. https://youtube.com/watch?v=TSPvz4LuoSw >"What the Russians are essentially demanding is capitulation" He's not wrong. Russia tried to negotiate, France tried to negotiate, Israel tried to negotiate, Turkey tried to negotiate... When four of the biggest warmongering countries on earth (America, the UK, and China aside) try to negotiate a peace deal and the response is drinking the koolaid that was meant for the civilians and cannon fodder, committing war crimes against civilians & PoWs, and acting stoic/machismo in the face of an avoidable war, it's not hard to see why Russia would demand Ukraine's complete humiliation at this point regardless of whether they are right or wrong for invading.
>>36726 >>36728 Could it be that Russians/Chechens are playing with a hand tied behind their back due to PR and thus every man they can rescue counts? ProVatniks made a huge stint about the fact that it's not a full on mobilization. >>36735 >DPA now supports streaming infrastructure that cannot be censored by Big Tech A new place to host imageboardss soon?
>>36664 You see, fighting to not be herded into collective farms (or "tent settlements for the forest clearers") involved a very different sort of people than fighting for colour revolutions and puppet kleptocracies (as well as "gay is okay", frown of a Brezhnev's clone, or whatever fuck they can advertise now) might conceivably attract. Hence different results from the early stages on, even against an adversary who doesn’t seem all that driven. >>36668 Theoretically possible, but likely unnecessary. The end game is: 1. It's established that Uncle Sam will not come to defend his puppets (which by now is well past reasonable doubt). 2. The whole network of protectorates starts collapsing. To the internal opposition. The external attacks are likely to be counterproductive. 3. NATO does not matter any more, as due to (1) and (2) it becomes obsolete. 4. Inside USA they already talk about sedition openly, so on what exactly assets Vatican-at-Harvard can rely even by now? 5. Curtains. Exit left, pursued by bees, etc.
There are reports of Russians abandoning Snake Island again
>>36745 Its like we are in some soet of timeloop, all over an island with no strategic value.

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