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Russia vs Ukraine 15 - Not A War Edition Strelok 05/30/2022 (Mon) 20:00:07 ID: 5d3947 No.35096
>Russians shelling Ukraine from the Russian side of the border >Ukraine returning fire in limited capacity >It's come to life that Zelensky was playing HOI4 with Azov and refused to allow them to retreat >Zelensky being the only one allowed to give retreat orders and likely being influenced by other powers (oligarchs) in Ukraine backfired bad >Rumor that the Commander-in-Chief has permission to have Ukrainians retreat if "failing to retreat might result in another Azovstal" >Ukrainians started abandoning positions when it became untenable all of a sudden >Ukraine's military is still implied to be top-down based on these leaked rumors with only a few key players besides Zelensky, Zaluzhnyi, and their close circles being allowed to take command >Because of this Russians are making pretty damn good gains, interpret that as you will >Snek Island has been invaded for the fifth or sixth time now unsuccessfully >Pontoon bridges has become a meme to describe both sides in the conflict >America continuing to spirale towards a greater Great Depression >Turkey and Croatia vetoing attempts to have Finland and Sweden inducted into natto for different reasons >Rumors off and on of Poland getting in on this whole "special military operation" shit >Belarus openly declares they will join Russia's war special military operation against Ukraine if non-mercenary Polish troops are discovered >Lysychansk region might as well be on fire and smell of brimstone >Shit's fucked Link Dump: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/traduzir-paginas-web/ https://web.telegram.org https://fotoforensics.com https://trashchan.xyz/finance/ https://yandex.ru/news Maps: https://mobile.twitter.com/Suriyakmaps https://militaryland.net/ukraine/deployment-map/ https://militaryland.net/tag/maps/ (Daily updates) https://liveuamap.com/ http://defensepoliticsasia.com/Ukraine/ https://militarymaps.info/ (requires Russian social media account and Russian payment processors) https://maphub.net/Cen4infoRes/russian-ukraine-monitor (Intentionally up to a week old) https://opermap.mash.ru/ (Russian propaganda map) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Russo-Ukrainian_War_detailed_map Channels: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUnc496-PPmFZVKlYxUnToA (Belarusian take on the war) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgGHiivhFq7M_1MLemh-cjg (Singaporean take on the war) https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP2QApi8G2TKc8NZmeDWSUg (Reddit "OSINT" take on the war) Sister threads: /pol/: https://16chan.xyz/pol/res/55331.html /leftypol/: https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/818936.html
Edited last time by Reuenthal on 05/30/2022 (Mon) 23:55:56.
Ukraine no longer getting free gas from Poland after Polish gas spiked 30% in price. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1cxvJXwlNU
>>35100 I like the way he says asia
>>35100 Dunno man cannot find anything in polish sources on this, other then us (cuckland) donating 25 000 tons of fuel to ukraine, two weeks ago. I mean you can tell it is bullshit because it woyld benefit native population and polish government would never do anything like that. There was some larger donation in late march but I dont know much about it. Probably just all the fuel from it got deposited
>>35103 >burgerland is donating fuel to some slav shithole while I'm paying $4.50/gallon HAIL KING JOE
A quick recap for today. >Ukrainian Kherson offensive is going nowhere fast. >Russian missile strike on UAF HQ at Novoiy Bug allegedly killed 3 generals and 20+ high ranking officers. Ukraine admits strike destroyed only 15ish tanks and as much APC, no word on officers. >Sporadic fights at Severodonetsk, Russians advancing trough it almost unopposed. >According to the Russian sources, east of Severodonets river is almost fully secured, few stragglers remain clinging to the river bed. >New FOB's and battle groups spotted at Kursk region, threatening to enter Ukraine near Sumy >Ukrainian Kharkov counter offensive allegedly ran out of steam, speculations about possible Russian attack towards Kharkov....again >Bridge near Odessa Calibrated....again >Other areas remain relatively static
>>35105 >burgerland is donating fuel to some slav shithole while I'm paying $4.50/gallon >HAIL KING JOE >Didn't read the 'Patriot' Act ever You know your gov is in a war against you more than the Ruskies, right? I'm assuming the britbong son of an MP of their parliament caught on video fighting in Ukraine has been covered in an earlier thread.
>>35106 Thanks Here's a quick recap from next week: Hohol army transitioning to troon insurgency after numerous IEDs in the East. Supply issues cause much Ukie infighting as frontline troops left holding their dick against Russian advance. Russian missiles strikes in West becoming more frequent as more supplies disrupted. Turkey acting like they are going to switch sides from NATO to broker peace deal Turkey posturing leaves some to think Azov sea will be shut off along with any chances of grain export. European (((false flag))) terror fears ramped up in news media as the inevitable happens - the tide of weapons flow into one of the most corrupt states starts to reverse back into Europe. Moneypox feared to be Chinese & Russian bioweapon as case numbers pass 1000. I'll leave the rest as an exercise to the reader
>>35108 >Moneypox feared to be Chinese & Russian bioweapon It's all so tiresome
>>35108 >European (((false flag))) terror fears ramped up in news media as the inevitable happens - the tide of weapons flow into one of the most corrupt states starts to reverse back into Europe. Speaking of which, NLAW weapons donated to Ukraine have already shown up on black market at Ildib for 15,000 dolaridoos. Syrian dude literally went to Ukraine and bought himself modern ATGM weapon and went back home. One of the telegram channels has the pictures but can't remember which one. Repost for better formating
the center of Severodonetsk has been captured russians
Also, can we add Suriyakmaps on OP? I've been following his work since the beginning of the war and it's some top notch stuff. He's unbiased and his maps are usually spot on accurate. He offers some analysts with each update. Thought streloks would like to have his maps as a additional resource. https://mobile.twitter.com/Suriyakmaps
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>>35100 >troon insurgency How does it compare to what the Wehrmacht had to deal with on the eastern front?
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>>35096 >Snek Island has been invaded for the fifth or sixth time now unsuccessfully Why?
>>35108 >Turkey posturing leaves some to think Azov sea will be shut off along with any chances of grain export. I pray for Turkey/NATO relations to deteriorate over Finland/Sweden badly enough for Turkey to allow even just one Russian warship into the Black Sea. Erdogan seems like the kind of guy who would do such a thing over persistent and complete lack of respect over Turkey's key strategic position in NATO. But more importantly, it would be funny.
>>35107 >caught on video fighting in Ukraine Which video? >>35108 >Moneypox feared Isn't that suppose to come from the muslims?
>>35115 Hohols really want to step on snek for some reason.
>>35115 Apparently it's a strategically important post-war location that can make or break Russia fully landlocking Ukraine, due to being a location either side could heavily fortify into a sea fort. Pic semi related. But if it's true, then it honestly feels something like NATO should've done already, and the time window for it is looong gone.
>>35120 I would imagine that the ability to claim ownership of the waters surrounding the island by its capture are more important then the island itself. It isn't particularly big and can easily be bombarded back into the sea. Though if Russia capture Odessa, I don't see how useful the island would be to the Ukrainians unless to attempt to harass Russian ships, but that again goes back to just bombarding the island.
>>35121 >and can easily be bombarded back into the sea That'd be a pretty neat form of warfare. Sort of the opposite of the Chinese in the South China Sea. Instead of building islands to expand your own land claims, remove islands from existence to deny the enemy's land claims without having to fortify and hold it yourself. Maybe if we lived in a timeline where limited nuclear exchanges existed, those Project Plowshare tests would see practical use that way.
>>35115 PR. No, seriously, they are sending waves of troops and gear unto that island that has no strategic value at this point and is impossible to hold for both sides due to being large, immobile target. It was one of the first places where ukrainians gave up heroically resisted russian genociders, so reddit would have a field day if they captured it, possibly meaning more aid. There is seriously no reason to attack it and every attack is a suicide. Maybe there is a hidden bunker with nazi gold and nato generals in there.
>>35111 >Meanwhile on Western TV and Proptube: These new American weapons are turning the tide of war
>>35125 Yes, the tide of war on terrorism, to the side of terrorism.
>>35125 >>35126 Ah, telling the truth, and yet lying at the same time by omission. The best kind of propaganda. Well, the West winning the PR war isn't going to unfuck my food and gas prices. But it's still the best kind of propaganda.
>>35096 OP, I'd point out that you're missing the links to past OPs traditional for any ongoing, serial-general thread.
Российская армия прорвала украинскую оборону под Святогорском и Щурово, а также активно наступает в Северодонецке. >The Russian army has broken through the Ukrainian defenses near Svyatogorsk and Shchurovo, and is also actively advancing in Severodonetsk.
I swear to fuck after this americans will need another conflict, since military stuff is the only industry remaining in the country, and to prove their worth to the world. They will attack Iran I feel it in my bones.
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Ukrainian military is insistent on blocking the roadway leading up to the front lines no matter the losses. Got a few SU-25s shot down. Commando Force near the river entrance got shitter shattered. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLWrBinXQS0 They shot the bridge again! Confirmed world's most hated bridge! Struck 8(?) times now. Also Ukraine had a force they were preparing near the Transnistrian border hit by missiles, well away from the front lines. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1v8XNnX4Mc Severodonetsk was definitely abandoned (smart move by the Ukrainians). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML-2glptwls Crispy Lemon captured. Spearhead to Slovyansk soon. Izium and Liman fronts seem to be detached and working independently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3SfXZJkxBA Major push by the Russians along the happy front to turn it back into a frown. Ternova allegedly recaptured by the Russians again. Beginning to become a meme of them swapping the town back and forth like a cheap whore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA8xHeHXeSU >>35131 Iran could actually fight back even before Russia gets involved in that.
>>35107 >britbong son of an MP of their parliament caught on video >>35118 >Which video? The one that went viral everywhere. Can be found on UK newspaper Telegraph: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=8_uw0UZvUmg The mutt with red Trident patch at 5m25s in video. >>35108 >Here's a quick recap from next week: >Russian missiles strikes in West becoming more frequent >>35132 >Ukraine had a force they were preparing near the Transnistrian border hit by missiles, well away from the front lines Welcome to next week! >>35131 >They will attack Iran I feel it in my bones. >will >future tense kek It's not black and white boomer war anymore - it's all ghey-gray zones. They are attacking... They have been attacking... fify >35114 >bot post is obvious bot post >pajeet can't into code
>>35133 >The mutt with red Trident patch at 5m25s in video. Why isn't he raping kids in the UK along side his muslim brothers?
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>DPR troops repulsed the attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Yasinovataya, the enemy lost up to 40 militants and tanks - Basurin >Our fighters repelled an enemy attack in the Novobakhmutovka area from the direction of Rozovka, according to the NM DPR. >Skillful actions of our fighters destroyed up to 40 personnel, two T-64 tanks and an infantry fighting vehicle of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. >The allied forces managed to push the enemy back from the "Agrofarm" near the village of Novoluganskoye near Svetlodarsk
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>When will the next attempt of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to attack Zmeiny? >We have repeatedly written about the preparation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for the next operation on Snake Island. The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and, in particular, the Western advisers in charge of it, have taken into account past failures, and are now preparing more thoroughly. >The main task for the Armed Forces of Ukraine is to obtain Western weapons. The Ukrainian command is waiting for the delivery of Harpoon anti-ship missiles, necessary to destroy the ships of the Russian Navy. >At present, the Ukrainian forces are actively conducting training on landing on an unequipped coast. >There is a reconnaissance of the positions of the Russian Armed Forces on the island with the help of the Bayraktar UAV. >In addition, since May 25, the strategic UAV RQ-4B Global Hawk of the US Air Force and RQ-4D Phoenix of the NATO Air Force have been operating daily in the Black Sea waters, which monitor the activities of the ship group of the Russian Navy. >Yesterday, a joint training session was held to organize communications between units of the 73rd SOF center, Navy boats, and the 14th Air Force Tank Brigade of Ukraine. The leadership was carried out by the employees of the GUR with the KP grouping of heterogeneous forces, which we wrote about earlier. >Anti-aircraft missile systems have been deployed in the area of ​​​​Desantnoye and Glubokoye to cover units from missile strikes. >In the coastal zone from Odessa to Zatoka, marine security boats "Grigory Kuropyatnikov", "Balaklava", "Krym", "Nikolaev" and "Odessa", equipped with Western-made MANPADS, are on constant duty. >Rybar
>>35138 I blame the eternal Leaf.
>>35140 >I blame the eternal Leaf. Smart man, playing it safe. You just know somewhere, some maple sucker, moose fucker is rubbing two leafs together.
>>35108 >Turkey >being sane Erdoggan released a bunch of rapefugees into Syria to destablize the situation while Russia is distracted and is plotting to send more: http://archive.today/2022.05.28-191141/https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/27/turkeys-plan-to-forcibly-relocate-syrian-refugees-gains-momentum
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The SBU detained the leading designer of the Antonov plant in Kiev The SBU said that the engineer supported Russia's special operation in Ukraine, and also turned to the President of the Russian Federation with a request to grant him Russian citizenship.
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>>35131 >>35132 The Bush Doctrine won't work with Iranians, the US will only go up against countries that have no chance in hell to win >>35142 If I was in Eastern Europe's shoes I'd just use this as an excuse to throw all their rafugees out of the country
>"We are a separate 18th Marine Battalion of the 35th Brigade, appealing to the public for help, to influence the top leadership of the brigade for their criminal orders, sending us to attack with the enemy under their shelling. >We are suffering heavy losses, over the past four days, according to our doctors, there were 80 people killed and wounded, and according to our data, there are much more killed and wounded, there are also missing and captured. Those who try to tell the truth are taken away in an unknown direction. >During these 4 days of the offensive, we did not capture a single settlement, from the village. Bereznegovatogo Mykolayiv region in the direction of Velikoye Artakovo. We do not refuse to defend our homeland, but with a different leadership that values ​​the life of Ukrainian patriots. We ask for your help to withdraw the rest of the battalion, which the command considers traitors" Looks like Kherson counter offensive fell flat on its face. Lots of casualties reported. This, in combination with Kharkov counter offensive running out of steam and unattainable position of UAF in Donbass could mean Ukraine lost its even very limited counterattack potential. Oh well, time to attempt to take Snake Island again for propaganda victory.
>>35131 Nah this isn't really America's loss, no matter how bad it gets, so there's no real reason for the US MIC to have to save face. They can always blame it on Ukrainian soldiers not being properly trained, or on the Comedian being incompetent or corrupt, or just on the evil Satan Putler of Mordor and his wicked legion of Hellslavs sticking over 9000 penises into poor Ukrainian child freedom fighters per day or something. Fall of Saigon this is not. It's not even another Fall of Kabul.
>>35152 It's a monetary loss at the very least as I assume the only reason the US has been adamant about Ukraine not making any peace deals with Russia is so that the US can sell them guns. Of course I think the US overestimated the leadership of Ukraine if this rumor of the comedian trying to micromanage a fucking war is true. Which I believe it is because otherwise Ukraine must be completely retarded from the top down with some of the dumb shit they have been doing.
>>35152 Atlanticist shills are pinning the blame on Germany for not committing economic suicide to rescue Ukraine.
>>35154 America has a vested political interest in Ukraine, or at least they did for the first month or two of the war. Keep in mind there are a lot of scandals (both sex scandals and legal scandals) tied to Ukraine and probably paper trails in Ukraine that the political elite didn't think would be discovered.
Reddit Brigade Strikes Again >South Korean mercenary Lee Geun returned from Ukraine to his homeland - he may face the death penalty. >According to Korean media, the ex-Navy special forces captain and active blogger was wounded during a "special reconnaissance mission behind enemy lines." >Like most of his other foreign colleagues, he became disillusioned with this war and decided to return home. >Seoul filed 2 criminal cases against Lee Geun - for crossing the border and mercenary. He faces a prison term, deprivation of citizenship and even the death penalty. Right at the airport, after a brief interview, he was taken away by the police. Also, more gas turned off today on Europe due to non compliance with ruble payments. >Gazprom completely stopped gas supplies from Danish Orsted and Shell Energy Europe Limited to Germany due to non-payment in rubles - RIA Novosti
Burgerland admits to cyber warfare against Russia. https://archive.ph/Gtejx Friendly reminder that this is generally considered an act of war. Not that it matters much in the Ukrainian context.
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I don't like Neil fag. But goddamn, that's some attrition rate.
>>35158 >The globohomo cons morons to go fight for their puppet and gives them the death penalty if they come back
>>35156 I am glad I am born in America and not Austria or western Europe, most burgers don't know what Hungarians are. Most Europeans hate Hungarians, not that it changes very much of anything
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>>35161 Well, in this particular case, it was just a fucking idiot being a fucking idiot. From what I've heard from, S.Korean officials straight up told him that he'd be charged with a long string of crimes if he did it before he left, but the fucker tried to call a bluff. Those officials seem intent on delivering.
>>35165 Of course they are. He cost them face. The one thing
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>>35162 Yes, those highly horrible Hungarian hedonists haplessly hungering during every hour for trouble.
>>35165 I can see that. I wouldn't be surprised at Western non-mercenary volunteers ending up on all of their nation's federal watchlists either.
>>35149 >but with a different leadership that values ​​the life of Ukrainian patriots. How very antisemitic of them.
>>35149 >Looks like Kherson Counteroffensive fell flat on its face That's not what I'm seeing on the maps, but I'll give it about 2-3 days to see if Ukrainians can hold the territory they took. If they can it means an end to the rail offense on the Russian side. Missiles aside.
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Imagine watching your country turn into such a meme that foreigners add it to the fucking pride flag.
>>35175 From right to left it's clearly Ukraine, gays, niggers, and trannies, but what's the purple circle?
>>35176 Probably genderfluid or something equally retarded.
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>>35174 Which map are you using? The one I'm looking at shows they only managed to take two villages, one small one and one that has the bridge over the river. Pass that they didn't manage to take a single one,and the map maker is usually correct when showing zone of control.
>>35175 >the fagflag grows ever more
>>35148 Then what, Syria again? MIC needs reasons to milk americans dry, and fight against Iran has been telegraphed for a long time. Hell, this week usa seized illegaly iranian tanker. Besides, this might be the last time before they get nukes and become untouchable, fucking over israels ambitions forever. >>35174 They might still hold davido brody but they are incapable of advancing, have lost all momentum, cannot be resuplied since the bridge got destroyed and the banks are mined. Thats not how succesfull offensive looks like. >>35176 I think its the symbol faggots had on armbands in Auschwitz. >>35180 Thats a nice grenade launcher/ mortar.
>>35184 >and fight against Iran has been telegraphed for a long time If it were going to happen, surely it would have happened when Zion Don had Soleimani assassinated?
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>>35180 >second vid Why is he in the middle of an open field, and what is going on? Is the enemy on the other side of that hill, and they somehow cannot pop out to try and shoot him when he is not firing? >>35184 >Thats a nice grenade launcher/ mortar. I'm not sure if it's an AGS-17 or an AGS-30, but in either case, that is what a proper automatic grenade launcher is supposed to be. It can basically do the job of both a machine gun and a mortar. Of course if you can set up and coordinate machine guns and trench mortars, then in theory that might be more effective, but in practice one platoon with these is much simpler to manage.
>>35185 Dunno. Does anyone understand what is happening in Kherson? Ukrops made an outlandish claim to have liberated 20 villages in this region. Are they just bullshiting ?
>>35186 Wait, I might be retarded. The one in the vid seems to be a natto AGL.
>>35186 >I'm not sure if it's an AGS-17 or an AGS-30 It's captured Mk 19. Notice longer barrel, barrel muzzle choke and specific coloring of the rounds. Plus, Russian Grenades of VOG series are different shape and have sort of conical nose, as opposed to spherical shape of Mk19 rounds
>>35175 at this point they might as well just make a flag that shows what they don't support straight white males since that flag is now such a clusterfuck from a graphics design perspective
Quick recap for today. This is to my knowlage, feel free to add something, or correct if I'm mistaken. >Russians struck Beskydy tunnel, which Ukrainians have been using to move supplies and western weapons. No reports on damage, but it'll probably take something more spicy than Kalibr to knock it out. >Kherson offensive still not going anywhere as of writing this post. According to the most reports, UAF barely took 2-3 km in depth and on single line of advance, Russians blew the bridge used to supply forward elements, now they're stuck on Russian side of the river. Few villages along the river are taken by UAF. Reports by Russian sources of significant casualties inflicted on UAF. >Severodonetsk 80% under Russian control, not counting the industrial zone. >USA will deliver HIMARS MRLS soon. Germany IRIS-T missile defense systems than can be used as AA, but no sooner than October-November since they have none in stock. >Ukrainian Kharkov offensive is probably over, Russians are counterattacking, reports of several villages taken, no confirmation so far. Unconfirmed reports say RuAF took Fedorovka and Shestakovo, thereby cutting off Stary Saltov from the rest of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. >Artillery doing artillery things along the front line. Still waiting for Snake Island 4.0
>>35190 If a flag doesn't follow the Rule of Tincture (at least to an approximate degree) it's usually a shit flag.
>>35191 Russians managed to recapture several villages near Kharkov, re established a buffer, and potentially cut off UAF forces at Stariy Slativ. Also, at Kherson, the 2-3 km bulge that formed during the Ukrainian offensive has been largely leveled. Ukrainian forces captured 3-4 river villages during the whole offensive. Reports of bridge blown up, so any further supply or troop movement will have to be facilitated by pontoon bridges,and we all know those things are artillery magnets. Russians reported they inflicted pretty big casualties on UAF, which are now being confirmed by video footage, although the real extent of Ukrainian casualties cannot be confirmed certainly, could be less that Russians report. Although it looks pretty bad for UAF
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Attack on Donbass: situation in eastern Ukraine by the end of June 1, 2022 >In the north of the Kharkiv region, the Armed Forces of Ukraine plan to organize a crossing near Khotomly for a subsequent attack on the positions of the Russian Armed Forces on the left bank of the Pechenezh reservoir. Russian artillery strikes at Ukrainian positions in Udy, Slatino, Dergachi, Tsirkuny and Oleksandrivka. >In the Slavic direction, the assault on Yarovoe and Bogorodichny continues, there are reports of battles in Svyatogorsk itself. >In Severodonetsk, allied forces continue to clear the city. According to unconfirmed information, units of the Allied Forces entered the area of the thermal power plant from the side of Sirotino. >Under Izyum, the Armed Forces of Ukraine inflict artillery strikes on the positions of the RF Armed Forces in Rudnevo and Dolgenkiy. Target designation is provided by the Leleka UAV and the DRG that crossed the Seversky Donets. >Fighting in Kamyshevakh has shifted to the outskirts of Zolote. Allied forces control over half of the village. >The units of the NM of the LPR are advancing from the side of Toshkovka to the southern outskirts of Lisichansk and approached the settlement of Mirnaya Dolina. >On the Soledar direction, there are battles for Belogorovka, Yakovlevka and Berestovoe on the Bakhmut-Lysichansk highway. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have deployed additional forces to the area and are hastily forming reserves: 1,650 residents have been mobilized in Konstantinovka to be sent to the front line. >In the Zaporozhye direction, the parties exchange blows. Units of the Ukrainian 1st brigade, 128th brigade, 14th brigade and 81st brigade, as well as 102nd and 110th brigades of territorial defense are being drawn to the line of contact.
>>35180 >About half of the /k/ino footage of this war is forever tainted by insufferable Vatniggers purposefully mislabeling losses, baiting or being the subhumans they are. Feels fucking terrible. That said, thanks for providing some footage with a neutral description and source.
>>35191 >but no sooner than October-November since they have none in stock. The germs don't give a fuck, eh?
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>>35194 >On the Soledar direction, there are battles for Belogorovka, Yakovlevka and Berestovoe on the Bakhmut-Lysichansk highway. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have deployed additional forces to the area and are hastily forming reserves: 1,650 residents have been mobilized in Konstantinovka to be sent to the front line.
>>35175 I went to a small Britbongistan city back in 2008 Stayed for a week, saw 3 fucking faggot parades and 1 concert. I knew back then that something was horribly wrong.
>>35198 Play stupid games >give womyn the vote Win stupid prizes >niggers, troons, rapefugees, general collapse The kikes knew what they were doing. Still do. There will be no political solution when it comes.
Unconfirmed reports of fight breaking out at Sumy. Could be just good old border post shootout, or could be Russians restarting their offensive. Awaiting for further information.
>>35159 >ywn participate in the greatest shitposting effort of our life time Shit >>35175 The symbolism of globohomo penetrating the Ukrainian flag really escapes them huh? >>35178 Does it represent an used condom?
>>35184 >Then what, Syria again? Was thinking about Cuba as boomers still think that it's the same threat it used to be 30 years ago while also being completely bankrupt, demoralized and with no real military allies in the region. >>35194 On a scale from 1 to Endsieg, how fucked are the Ukros and the Ukrainian Govt respectively? >>35197 I'm still in awe of the fact the Nazis for all their incompetence managed to create the greatest hail mary self defence force (with cheap funs and anti tank weaponry to boot) out of thin air
>>35203 Where were they incompetent from a logistical and industrial factor?
>>35198 >Britbongistan >4 day national celebrations >prime subverter in prolonging Ukraine conflict They're ripe for a false flag to take NATO into Ukraine officially * * unofficially NATO is already balls deep in Ukraine. There are videos of bong accented hohol fighters on the interwebz Their domestic affairs have started another war (not that they realize). The Prime Minister Johnson ignoring the Convid laws he made & the cops being complicit in the cover up for 2 years has taught every child - "The law is optional." We should just call it European Brazil. (Bongzilians of Britzil?)
1st video allegedly from Lysychansk Ukrops using a Degtyarev DP-27
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1FSVNG allegedly in Lysychansk 2 Smoke column over Adveevka. 4 lviv
>>35202 toppost/10 >would read again
>>35206 >Last video If I didn't know any better I would think they are black. What he fuck did they expect as prisoners of war, working as some farm slave for a Babushka? The Russians realized the mistake with that with Japanese PoWs who would learn the culture of the farms they were serfs to, and then use it against the Soviets later post-war.
>>35210 >What he fuck did they expect as prisoners of war Dumbass probably thought when you get captured in war they just take your gun and let you go. Fucking retards.
>>35210 >>35211 I think that's an asylum in Bulgaria but I could be wrong
>>35212 Even as refugees I don't have much sympathy since they are getting free room and board for existing and having a pussy/being underageb&, and thus can't complain if their basic human needs are met. I have a little more sympathy than I do for PoWs though.
Any idea on how much the West has given to Ukraine relative to Russia's military budget? IIRC America has given about 60 billion between combined packages and Europe had given about 1-2 billion between combined packages, so Ukraine's war chests should be sitting at slightly higher than Russia's annual military budget right now, right?
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Lmao.
>>35216 >2 oh fugg a tigger :::::DDDDDD. >>35219 Arent these one time use? I see same problem as with these grenades some fuck smuggled to sweden. Wait some years and they will drop in price since their use case is limited.
>>35219 Makes me kind of sad most black market buyers are collectors and not professionals.
>>35220 Yeah you don't spend 30 grand on a consumable rocket unless you have a plan or collect those sorts of things.
>>35220 >Arent these one time use? Well, they are. But if you can get a javelin on black market, imagine how easy would be to smuggle a bricks of plastic explosive into Europe. All we need now is some Ahmed in France wanting to meet x number of virgins and bring religion of pieces into some crowd. >>35221 ATGM have expiration date, much better to buy some rifle, easier to hide at least
>>35222 Well it could be a huge trump card for the cartel. It's abit overkill tho.
Do you think the Taliban crackdown on poppy production is gonna influence the next few years? 80% of Europe's opiates come from Afghanistan and war tends to lead to opiate abuse to deal with depressions and the like, so I'm curious what will happen.
>>35219 <ywn be rich kid >"MOM! I know what I want for Christmas!
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>>35203 >On a scale from 1 to Endsieg, how fucked are the Ukros and the Ukrainian Govt respectively? Ukrainians are fucked. Donbass is practically lost, commendation to russians for making all logistics run through artillery killzone. Pro-ukrainians are coping by saying that letting russians take severodonetsk unopposed was the plan all along. Wish I had some intelligent pro-ukrop to debate with. Southern counteroffensive has failed spectaculary. I hope this wasnt the real deal and that the ukrops will take the real one seriously. After attacking from 4-5 points over the entire frontline they have managed one (1) village. I have no idea how russians plan on taking Odessa, they will most likely try to do it next, unless ukies do something retarded and focus will shift towards Kharkov again. If Sumy offensive is true and not just minor skirmish then Kharkov is next. Zaporozhe after Odessa, to gangbang it from both sides of the river. I still believe this will have to end at the gates of Kiev. As for leadership, they will be fine. They are backed by all the spooks and propaganda from empire of lies. If Zelensky is deposed it is only because he stopped being usefull to his handlers. >>35205 Any nato country entering the conflict directly is very unlikely (they would get BTFO.) Only poland (specially in lowercase) is retarded enough to try something like this. >>35225 Dunno. Its really a topic for different thread. With medical mafia empowered by govermental response to covid, its interests are as important as these of MIC. America will need a war after this is over, and this might be another vector that will help us divine its next imperial conquest >inb4 they invade afghanistan again
>>35228 >America will need a war after this is over A civil war.
>>35228 >Pro-ukrainians are coping by saying that letting russians take severodonetsk unopposed was the plan all along Kek, did you read what Asterovich said on the whole Severodonetsk retreat? "We retreated from Severodonetsk and let Russians fall into our trap and now their high command is in shock" or something like it. Still waiting to see what the actual 'trap' is. >unless ukies do something retarded and focus will shift towards Kharkov again. Oh boy, do I have news for you. According to Rybar, Ukraine has been moving its armor and concentrating it at Udy up north and near Stary Slativ. It's expected that Ukraine will start new offensive in upcoming days, one on Russian flak North and other on its flank east of Kharkov. Russia re took a lot of ground they yielded when Ukrainians did Kharkov counter offensive so Ukrainians need some success on battlefield, especially given that Kherson operation went so poorly, Ukrainian high command briefing didn't even mention it in its reports.
>>35230 > did you read what Asterovich said on the whole Severodonetsk retreat? I think he probably did, since he included that exact same quote in his post.
>>35231 Shit, nvm I'm retarded. I thought it was text of something I already saw on first look.
>>35228 >>35229 I recall reading a long time ago, that the US intends to go to war with russia by at least 2024. Right now I don't think there is any enemy burgers are willing to fight, and part of this debacle is puffing up russia to be the great boogeyman of the west again.
>>35206 What is happening in the last video?
>>35234 allegedly refugees being transferred to an asylum in Bulgaria, I am not sure what is going on either
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>>35229 >implying americans will ever actually revolt in a way that isn't just token protest
On the Situation in Severodonetsk >1. Most of the city is under the control of Russian troops. A significant part of Severodonetsk was liberated from the Ukrainian invaders without much resistance. The enemy, having suffered losses on the outskirts of Severodonetsk, quickly began to retreat to the bridges to Lysychansk and to the industrial zone of the Azot plant. >2. A full-fledged supply of the remnants of the Severodonetsk garrison has long been difficult, and the Azot plant itself is not as convenient for defence as Azovstal. It is more similar to the Ilyich plant, where the remnants of the 36th Brigade of marines surrendered. Nevertheless, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are showing in every possible way that they intend to hold on to the Azot plant for some time in order to slow down the preparations of the RF Armed Forces for an assault on Lysychansk. >3. The General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was hoisted on the petard of its own propaganda, which for more than a month was broadcasting about the impregnable fortress of Severodonetsk, whereas after the commencement of the assault on the city, most of the 'impregnable fortress' was surrendered in a few days. >4. In order to somehow explain the discrepancy between the previous statements and reality, a propaganda smoke screen is being staged about a 'cunning plan', a 'trap' and 'counterattacks' in Severodonetsk. In fact, they are trying to pass off local street battles in city blocks near the industrial zone and artillery shelling of the city from Lisichansk as a 'cunning strategy'. There can be no rapid counterattacks in the conditions of modern urban combat, but at least some activity must be shown so that the public is less likely to wonder why most of the city has been surrendered. >5. The Gauleiter of the occupied territories of the LPR [Serhiy Haidai -GB] announced the loss of more than 80% of the city, which was followed by baying from the Zelensky clique that in fact things are much better. Again, real reports from the field do not coincide with propaganda. >6. Regarding the prospects for fighting in Severodonetsk, it seems that now pressure will gradually be exerted on the Azot industrial zone, waiting for the troops to break through the enemy defenses in the Ustinovka and Privolye region, so that they can reach the outskirts of Lysychansk and surround it from three sides. >7. Of key importance for the battles for Lysychansk will be the ongoing battles in the area of the Artemovsk-Lysychansk highway, where the enemy has thrown part of the reserves accumulated in the Artemovsk area. Also important will be the potential development of an offensive by the RF Armed Forces in the direction of Seversk. Now these operations require the solution of tactical tasks related to the crossing of the Seversky Donets (the same problem will also arise during any attack on Slavyansk).
>>35229 >America. >Ever revolting against anything without explicit permission from Israel. inb4 'But Trump was a revolt!'
>>35239 When people can't afford to eat it will be self-correcting. Funny how that works though; The country with the most explicit anti-government use and ownership of guns happens to also be the least prone to using them since they understand what that means.
I wonder if we will see any interesting new river crossing methods? It seems like forcing a bridge head is becoming both increasingly important and difficult. I imagine the equipment and tactics are bit dated after the post cold war corruption and austerity for Russia and two decades of desert adventures for the west. "Amphibious" is apparently a relative term in combat conditions and pontoon bridges are great kill zone funnels for aircraft, drones, and artillery.
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>>35240 > A significant part of Severodonetsk was liberated from the Ukrainian invaders without much resistance. >Ukrainian invaders without much resistance. >Ukrainian invaders I hate vatniks so much its unreal.
>>35240 There must be a point where ukranians must realize these canadian tactics are not working very effectively >>35244 I mean if the majority of locals see themselves as russians then an ukranian is a foreigner, much how americans are foreigners in full injun reservations despite being inside the U.S. [Insert black ghetto joke here]
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>>35246 >I mean if the majority of locals see themselves as russians then an ukranian is a foreigner That doesn't matter, these locals live in Ukraine, not Russia. If they do not like so called ">ukrainian invaders" then they can fuck off back to pidoRussia. Only a retarded vatnik would pull off these levels of doublethink as you are. You do realize aswell that its mostly Russian speaking Ukrainians aka the people who once supported Russia but then dodged that bullet once they realized that they'd been hoodwinked by corrupt sovoks in Moscow, doing most of the fighting against the invading Russian military?
>>35247 >If they do not like so called ">ukrainian invaders" then they can fuck off back to pidoRussia I mean isn't that what they were trying to do since 2015 and currently achieving right now? i don't get your point nor your insults.>>35247 >You do realize aswell that its mostly Russian speaking Ukrainians doing most of the fighting against the invading Russian military? I don't see that either unless you mean the soldiers who willingly surrendered when their government wanted them to go full Dirty Dozen out of nowhere
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>>35248 >currently achieving right now? <[citation needed] Ah yes, who could forget about the Donbabweans and Lugandans. How many of those did you lose for a few plots of land since 2015? Hmmm? >i don't get your point nor your insults Of course you don't, Sergei. After all, only you and your fellow vatniggers are stupid enough to believe that Ukraine liberating its occupied territories from invading russniggers makes them tha reeeeeel invaders/nazi/[insert vatnik talking point here]. >I don't see that either Now you're just lying at this point. There's ton of videos of the Ukrainian armed forces speaking in Russian to one another.
>>35249 >VATNIIIIIGGERRRR >[repeats of pre-packaged insults] You sound like an uncivilized subhuman.
>>35243 I doubt much can be done to improve that. They could perhaps try making bridgeheads via helicopters? But that does not allow them to transport heavier gear. Maybe they will stick aps on Żubr?
If /k/ is interested, the austrian army released a video about last months developments in english and it's seems pretty unbiased. https://yewtu.be/watch?v=RpC1kXhW2Lw Mentions some stuff I wasn't aware of before, for example that Russians started using T-62 on their own.
>>35242 Pretty much this, also it helps that America has plenty of ways to release pressure in the form of State laws, breads and circuses and violent protests being the norm. A country in Europe (where only some kinds of peaceful assembly are allowed) is much more prone to violent outbursts once things go tits up (Yellow Vests, Italian anti Covid protests, the whole shebang in Britain). >>35249 There should be a rule where Vatniggers and Ukros get the ban once they start tussling in news threads
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>>35247 >these locals live in Ukraine, not Russia Ukraine is a fake country to begin with (thankfully not for long anymore), they're living on historical Velikorus lands.
>>35254 Russia is just taking back what's hers and removing the Ukrainians who have been squatting, for far too long, on the land they've been gifted.
>Ukrainian Kherson counter offensive gets absolutely demolished in its tracks >"Ukraine has successfully repelled Russian attack" Fucking hell, they're not even trying at this point
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>>35228 >I hope this wasnt the real deal and that the ukrops will take the real one seriously. After attacking from 4-5 points over the entire frontline they have managed one (1) village. Man, all that NATO training sure paid off!
>>35249 >I am now russian >Ruskies are somehow not pinning Ukrania right now Come on buddy, like anons said, you are clearly disgruntled at something and it's best to stop derailing with your highly emotional non-arguments. t. Sergei your friendly russian poster it seems >>35251 That pic reminds me of that one book about the world suddenly becoming a disk due to some alien civilization hacking reality to farm stuff (but still leaving us alone) and the US/Soviets arms racing again with giant, nuclear head launching, atomic aerosleds/ekranoplanes after ICBMs were rendered useless.
Zelenskyy says 200,000 children 'taken' https://web.archive.org/web/20220602015531/https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-zelenskyy-kyiv-technology-2275d79825311606d80df893e6c34517 >KYIV, Ukraine — Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Wednesday that 200,000 children are among the Ukrainians who have been forcefully taken to Russia and dispersed across the vast country. They include children from orphanages, children taken with their parents and those separated from their families. >“The purpose of this criminal policy is not just to steal people but to make those who are deported forget about Ukraine and unable to return,” Zelenskyy said in his nightly video address to the nation on Wednesday, which was International Children’s Day. >Zelenskyy said Ukraine would punish those responsible but first it would show Russia on the battlefield that “Ukraine cannot be conquered, that our people will not surrender and our children will not become the property of the occupiers.” >Zelenskyy said 243 children have been killed so far in the war, 446 have been wounded and 139 are missing, adding that it could be more as his government doesn’t have a full picture of the situation in areas occupied by Russian troops. >He then described the deaths of 11 children, calling them by their first names and saying how they were killed. Doubtful that they were taken to Russia. Payment for services from the US?
>>35259 Gaddafi's disappearing gold 2.0
>>35259 Have they finally started to ship out lolis I've been waiting for months
>>35252 >for example that Russians started using T-62 on their own. Yeah they're deploying them as highway patrol basically. Two old soviet tanks and a dozen men is cheaper than a full checkpoint.
Am I the only one here who doesn't like both sides? Russia is practicing irredentism for land that was never theirs and Ukraine was trying to catch up to the current year.
>>35263 >for land that was never theirs Excuse me?
>>35263 I don't like either side, but if you don't have the pre-war context it's easy to fall into the American rhetoric that Russia is practicing irredentism instead of responding to several acts of war that prompted this response, and the Ukrainians have managed to rack up enough of the dishonorable war crimes that by default it may seem as if I'm pro-Russian by virtue of being pro-LNR/DNR because of the shit they have had to go through for 7+ years. If Ukraine really wanted peace they should have honored the Minsk agreements and worked towards confederating the LNR/DNR back into Ukraine instead of shelling it the entire time. The way I see it... >Minsk Agreements happen >Ukraine pressured into signing it by their handlers >Decides they don't have to follow it >Ignores any and all attempts by the opposition to work things out peacefully and coexist >Has the balls to accuse the Russians of not following the Minsk agreements because they are keeping the Donbass Republics from starving and giving them ammo >Ukraine allows nuclear-armed vessels of enemy nations into Russian waters >Bans minority language teaching in schools (a form of genocide) royally pissing off Hungary >Effectively soft banned themselves from NATO over the policy >Steals the gas they are supposed to be delivering >Russia tries to help them save face by claiming the gas pipes are "leaky" >Zelensky is too stupid to get it and thinks this is yet another attack on glorious Ukraine losing his slav shit and resulting in extra shelling of the DNR as a response >Ukraine begins talking about putting nukes on their border with Russia >Russia asks NATO to tone it down >NATO's response is to tell Russia to fuck off >Russia gets their preliminary forces gathered as a show of strength to force negotiations >1st world countries respond by sanctioning Russia before they have even DONE anything >Russia gives a list of demands >List consists of they don't care if Ukraine joins NATO but troop exercises need to be discussed in advance and nukes can't enter the country >Says point-blank they will back off if the other side is willing to deescalate >Burgerland rubbed their hands together and then told Russia to fuck off and that they WILL put nukes on Ukraine's borders >British diplomat tells Russia they will never recognize the Russian oblasts bordering Ukraine as belonging to Russia >Surprise pikachu face when Russia is done working with incompetents and invades You know there's a reason Russia never invaded under Trump. Trump consistently gave Russia a pressure release valve. America would launch an operation in Syria, but since Americans were eliminating a common enemy (ISIS) Russians didn't care if Americans were all in their back yard. I understand many anons can argue sophistry about the nature of seeking treaties with the West instead of Ukraine, and how Ukraine technically didn't commit an act of war against Russia. When you have a hostile nation threatening to genocide your ethnic minorities living in historically contested territory, and nuclear-armed nations are playing tiddlywinks in your backyard with their militaries, with everyone saying they don't recognize your own sovereignty, then a hundred years ago that would more than be enough reason to go to war in spite of irredentist claims. Maybe that's what I don't get in all of this though. Russia is acting like a proper nation would a hundred years ago while Ukraine is acting like a spoiled brat, so I'm going to end up with a Russian bias if forced to choose even if I don't like either relative to my own nation.
>>35265 You're conveniently leaving out the bit where Russia invades and annexes Crimea and encourages the Russian minority to start a civil war in other parts of the country, before supplying them with war material. Why should Ukraine have to accept some Russian semi-independent territories in their nation just because Russia thinks it can steal a significant part of their country to begin with? And Ukraine needed nukes to deter another Crimea from happening. It still does. Russia started this shit in 2014, and they kept it going ever since. >Ukraine allows nuclear-armed vessels of enemy nations into Russian waters Ukraine allowed nuclear-armed vessels of a friendly country to enter their waters. Russia can fuck off.
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>>35266 >You're conveniently leaving out the bit where Russia invades and annexes Crimea I'm "conveniently ignoring" a citizen's referendum, yes. Maybe Ukraine should have focused on being a proper Republic "Democracy" instead of a corrupt oligarchy if they wanted to prevent breakaway regions. >Why should Ukraine have to accept some Russian semi-independent territories Because they signed the Minsk agreements. Don't sign documents if you won't honor them. It's that simple. >And Ukraine needed nukes Or they could have just stopped being antagonistic at literally every branch path. It's like watching some nigger get surprised when he gets the bad end in a VN. Part of sovereignty is responsibility as much as it is the right to do sht within your territory. Maybe don't be surprised when you treat your neighbor like shit and they decide to start treating you like shit right back. >Russia started this shit in 2014, and they kept it going ever since. And they're going to finish it at the rate things are going. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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I'd caution the folks claiming Russia is steamrolling Donbass to wait a bit. Popasna was indeed impressive but unless Avdeevka falls, the Russians are spread way too thin right now and it's showing in the occasional Ukrainian tactical victory over the last couple days. Russians need to close up fronts right now, not open new ones. >>35259 >Cheap lolis will soon flood the black market >Unfortunately they're 3DPD and in need of liberating from high-ranking merchant guild members instead of needing seggs Fug. >>35253 >There should be a rule where Vatniggers and Ukros get the ban once they start tussling in news threads It's called the hide ID feature. If you want more I'm pretty sure BO put up an application process. >>35252 I'll have to take a look, thanks anon.
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>>35263 >Am I the only one here who doesn't like both sides? I don't like either side, but I hate the USA much more. Russia is blatant on their imperialism and kikery, USA pretends otherwise and just subverts.
>>35263 I don’t like either side. But neither am I hoping to pick a fight with Russia. And the USA is a bigger nigger than Russia. So I’m more anti-West than pro-Russia.
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>>35265 >Bans minority language teaching in schools (a form of genocide) so if burgerland stopped all spanish/french/german high school classes that would be genocide? i'm not saying it helped tone things down but come on now >British diplomat tells Russia they will never recognize the Russian oblasts bordering Ukraine as belonging to Russia this was a fuckup on the diplomat's part for not even knowing what territories belong to Russia. it's a sign of bong incompetence and not their actual stance. >muh ethnic minorities i truly don't give a fuck if your family ended up on the wrong side of the border because of the last war/redrawing of maps. if you're getting persecuted by the host country, then maybe you should just fucking leave and go back to where you came from.
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>>35276 >so if burgerland stopped all spanish/french/german high school classes that would be genocide? Well first off, America is a nation of immigrants. To be crass though... German? No. Labrador borders America and Mexico borders America so banning ESL courses for French in the Northern territories and Spanish in the Southern territories would be a form of genocide. I'm pretty sure several featherniggers have won high court lawsuits for this very reason when they tried to force English on the post-1930s reservations. >it's a sign of bong incompetence and not their actual stance. Their stance is that they are so anti-Russian that they can't even ensure their full-time government-sponsored AMBASSADOR TO RUSSIA understands Russian geography. It's one thing if some African warlord half the world away does it and another when a country you have had hostile diplomatic ties to for centuries does it. This gaff does represent the UK's stance because of how critical it was. >i truly don't give a fuck if your family ended up on the wrong side of the border because of the last war/redrawing of maps. Well then we are past words and you can laugh as Ukraine becomes a failed state. >if you're getting persecuted by the host country, then maybe you should just fucking leave and go back to where you came from. Good thing the Russians are pushing half-baked Poles back into Poland and out of Russian territory then.
As a side note, DPA seems to think the Ukrainians went broke and ran out of TB2s since there haven't been any getting shot down over the last two weeks.
>>35276 >if burgerland stopped all spanish/french/german high school classes that would be genocide? That actually is pretty much what USA did to German Americans back in the day. So yes.
>>35276 >that would be genocide? It might be for Spanish, due to Latin Americans, and German, due to the Amish, but the inability to teach a language in school or have schools which primarily speak that language were part of the genocide against Cajuns in Louisiana and against German-Americans during the World Wars, especially the first. Similarly, Bretons in France were faced with persecution for even speaking their language in schools and still face stigma. >not their actual stance Diplomats act as their country to other countries when their leader isn't present. Even if it wasn't their official stance, the outrage it caused, as well as being proof that even their diplomats, people handpicked based on their thoughts and relationships with the country and its people, were hostile to Russia, were enough. >go back to where you came from Settlements can have hundreds of years of existing as a certain culture and with certain families. Abandoning their ancestral homeland and livelihood to exist as a refugee and/or in poverty isn't an option for almost everyone. Similar and more familiar cases are when carpetbaggers came to the South during Reconstruction and when Koreans bought up land after deeds were burned in the firebombing of Japan.
>>35276 Similar to Biden's gaffe openly suggesting regime change in Russia, its something that cant be fully taken back
>>35276 >so if burgerland stopped all spanish/french/german high school classes that would be genocide? Better comparison would be Canada. Where, surprise, you will find constant tension and bickering over language rights. Both feathernigger languages, and between French (as a minority language in Canada overall) and English (as a minority language in Quebec). In fact, both of those have been flaring up recently, including accusations of genocide. >this was a fuckup on the diplomat's part for not even knowing what territories belong to Russia. it's a sign of bong incompetence and not their actual stance. The point isn't that the UK actually meant its stance is to demand Russia to cede its own territory to Ukraine. The fact that they said something so obviously wrong and ridiculous is proof of the UK's real stance, its level of hostility to Russia, and its absolute disdain for the diplomacy it superficially preaches. >if you're getting persecuted by the host country, then maybe you should just fucking leave They did try to leave. Kiev spent seven years shelling them because of their attempts to leave, since they refused to let them.
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>>35276 Hungarians in Ukraine live in a few km wide strip on the Ukrainian-Hungarian border, and they have been there since the 10th century. That particular area have been part of Hungary since its beginning, until 1920, when the Czechs managed to grab it. Then after ww2 the USSR wanted a foothold in the Carpathian basin, and that's why it's a part of Ukraine today. This specific law makes it impossible to teach in a minority language, except for people who are recognized as ˝indigenous˝. And the only group to earn this distinction are Crimean Tatars, who are living under Russian rule, so it's obvious a token gesture that is entirely meaningless. On top of that, Ukraine simply does not have enough teachers to start teaching Hungarian children in bilingual schools, so this law robs of them of a chance to get any actual education. So all they had to do was to recognize Hungarians living in the same place for more than a millennium as an ˝indigenous˝ people, and they could have joined all these NATO conferences and whatnot. But these slaves couldn't even manage that, instead they kept crying about how Hungarians are eebul for vetoing their every attempt at getting close to NATO.
>>35283 There are also Rusyns (the fourth branch of Rus peoples) who aren't even recognized by Ukrainians as a separate ethnicity to this day.
There were also poles, but they were all genocided to the men, women and child by the dogs of bandera.
>>35281 >its something that cant be fully taken back Historically you would make a very generous donation to the country in question when something like that happened out of respect for them not openly declaring war on you then and there for such slips of the tongue. Nowadays such slips seem to be part of the psychological warfare so it's hard to tell when the slip-ups begin and when official policy begins with Westerners.
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>>35249 >mfw 4/k/ucks donating to the hohols >>35259 Looks like the WEF is moving their child farms to another place.
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>west has better artillery with longer range, russia is finished! This shit triggers my autism so much its unreal.
>>35292 >conveniently leaving out 2S7 Pion (EFR 37.5 Km, MFR 47.5 Km) and 2A36 Giatsint-B ( EFR 40 Km with OFARS) >comparing specialized artillery piece with a fucking "flamethrower" >using Russian EFR while using Western MFR for comparsion >using specialized western PGU/RAP against standard artillery shells of Russians I get it's s propaganda, but no need for them to be so disingenuous. >This shit triggers my autism so much its unreal I think I just went trough the same thing. The worst thing is some faggot is enviably gonna parrot this shit even though he has no idea what he's talking about.
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1 BULORUSIAN MILITARY IN UKRAINE FEARS CAPTURE. He says that if he is captured, he will be sent to his native Belarus, and there they will be “bottled up” 2 APU under fire
>>35264 Eastern Ukraine belongs to Russia as much Tibet and Uighurstan belong to the Han. >>35265 They wouldn't mind having some former territory back is the point I was making, Russia has its imperial ambitions and I don't believe is acting so selflessly and practically so Ukraine blundering so arrogantly without care was lucky for them. >>35274 Same boat but I don't outright side with either of them. >>35276 >so if burgerland stopped all spanish/french/german high school classes that would be genocide? If you want erase a people cut out their tongues. They did it to the French and Germans as others have pointed out. >i truly don't give a fuck if your family ended up on the wrong side of the border because of the last war/redrawing of maps Borders change, land doesn't.
>>35298 >Eastern Ukraine belongs to Russia as much Tibet and Uighurstan belong to the Han. Factually incorrect comparison, even if you disregard Russia being a successor state of the pre-Mongol Rus, the southeast regions in particular have long been populated by Russian people, which they still are despite almost a century of ukrainization at this point (which started with commie Korenization program). There's really no cultural or genetic divide between them and, say, people from nearby Rostov.
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>>35254 >Ukraine is a fake country And yet you still can't take it, faggot. >n..not for long two moar weeks amrite? >>35255 >deport ethnic population to siberia >import russians to replace them It never belonged to you in the first place, faggot. The one squatting there is the Russians. >>35258 >any counter argument I don't like is motivated by emotion (You)
>>35292 >TOS-1 flamethrower. >Artillery. Stopped reading there. If Western shills want to get that picky about it, then they might as well include those Dagger missiles that regularly snipe targets across the county as far as Lviv.
>>35215 I don't think money matters much when you waste your soldiers as much as Ukraine has been. You can have all the guns in the world but if the soldiers don't have the will to fight because you have sent them to die on snake island five fucking times you're gonna have a bad time.
>>35196 >The germs don't give a fuck, eh? Why should they? Selenski and the Ukraine ambassador in Germany try very hard to make the German people their enemy. It's like they are conditioned to hate German people on some level and can't really compute that they are at war with Russia and Germany is their ally.
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Russians are being pushed back, lel.
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>>35304 am i going insane or are the hohols actually making headway into the DPR?
>>35277 >Well first off, America is a nation of immigrants. and europeans immigrated from the fertile crescent, who immigrated from africa, etc. If everyone is an immigrant, nobody is. >I'm pretty sure several featherniggers have won high court lawsuits for this very reason when they tried to force English on the post-1930s reservations. this is a false comparison. it's different for the injuns because they don't have anywhere else to go and their numbers are a fraction of what they used to be. russia spans two continents and has millions of people, they are in no danger of going extinct. >Well then we are past words and you can laugh as Ukraine becomes a failed state. ukies are a large enough population group to warrant their own country. even ignoring the west's propaganda, there is a significant historical precendent for the ukrainian people to be self-determined. >Good thing the Russians are pushing half-baked Poles back into Poland and out of Russian territory then. indeed. go to bed in poland, wake up in east germany, these things happen. but then once that border comes rolling back it'd be best for everyone involved if you went back to your people. >>35279 >That actually is pretty much what USA did to German Americans back in the day. So yes. again, if you don't like it, then go back. however if the country is actively preventing you from going back and trying to exterminate you, then that's a different issue that would warrant a special military operation. >>35280 >It might be for Spanish, due to Latin Americans, and German, due to the Amish, but the inability to teach a language in school or have schools which primarily speak that language were part of the genocide against Cajuns in Louisiana and against German-Americans during the World Wars, especially the first. Similarly, Bretons in France were faced with persecution for even speaking their language in schools and still face stigma. see above, unless you're saying that these new offshoots of other cultures form an entirely new culture on their own (i.e. french cajun), however that culture should still make an attempt to integrate with the broader society. obviously as an american this is a unique/difficult case since there is such a massive gap in culture/way of thinking here and there is no unison beyond a vague idea of civic nationalism which doesn't work compared to ethnic nationalism. we'd be a lot berret off today if lincoln had sent the nogs back. >Diplomats act as their country to other countries when their leader isn't present. Even if it wasn't their official stance, the outrage it caused, as well as being proof that even their diplomats, people handpicked based on their thoughts and relationships with the country and its people, were hostile to Russia, were enough. i will admit that they fucked up this one, proof that the west are wired machines that repeat what their masters tell them without any logical thinking. i don't trust putin in the slightest but at least i have legitimate reasons for hating him beyond "russia bad because cnn say so" >Settlements can have hundreds of years of existing as a certain culture and with certain families. your ancestral clay may be important but what really matters is if your people are still alive or not. it's better to be stuck with a few dozen of your kind in the slums of some big city than being the last one standing in a holdout on muh rightful clay, since then you still have a chance to carry on your heritage in the only way that matters: your bloodline. >>35281 >Similar to Biden's gaffe openly suggesting regime change in Russia, its something that cant be fully taken back similar to the bong diplomat incident, this blind russian hatred is going to bite the west in the ass >>35282 see above, the injuns are the exception and not the rule. >The point isn't that the UK actually meant its stance is to demand Russia to cede its own territory to Ukraine. The fact that they said something so obviously wrong and ridiculous is proof of the UK's real stance, its level of hostility to Russia, and its absolute disdain for the diplomacy it superficially preaches. also above, i was wrong. >They did try to leave. Kiev spent seven years shelling them because of their attempts to leave, since they refused to let them. "Leave" means "get your things and go back across the border", it does NOT mean "declare yourself an independent state, steal the land, resources, cities, and other peoples that doesn't belong to you then cry to daddy russia when they tell you to give their fucking land back" >Hungarians in Ukraine live in a few km wide strip on the Ukrainian-Hungarian border, and they have been there since the 10th century. in that case it might as well just be in everyone's best interest to give that strip to hungary. a lot of these rightful clay situations should be solved on a case-by-case basis, as well as how far back you would want to consider land ownership and if the ethnic minority is significant enough to stir shit up in the future. >>35298 >If you want erase a people cut out their tongues. They did it to the French and Germans as others have pointed out. again, that's on them. in the case of america, integrate or go back. if i wanted to move to Germoney i would spend at least a few years learning their culture and becoming fluent in their language and customs, while also ensuring that i can give something to the community through my personal skills. >Borders change, land doesn't. Borders and land change, ethnic groups, cultures, and customs don't.
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>>35302 >I don't think money matters much when you waste your soldiers as much as Ukraine has been. It kind of does because >>35278 They're running out of funds faster than men from the looks of things, which would spell Russian air supremacy instead of just superiority. No more Bayraktar TB2s being shot down and fewer Su-25s being shot down outside of announced raids. The lack of reporting on shot down aircraft is on both sides suggesting Ukraine is down to city-level anti-air systems.
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>>35304 >Russians are being pushed back, lel. That map gives them more territory than any other source, heh.
>>35305 Is that a drone grenading a trench?
>>35307 I'm not seeing it. Perhaps you mean the corrections as the fog of war was lifted over the last 48 hours? Unless you mean Donetsk in which case the trenches have always been on the outskirts of the cities. That's why Russian citizens want to escalate the war.
>>35309 >"Leave" means "get your things and go back across the border" But it's their land that they grew up on, not Kiev's. You lose your claims to the land after about 2-3 generations separated. Kiev forcing an exodus to repopulate it with Kievans is no different than the shit the Soviets did. That goes for Crimea, Odessa, Lugansk, and Donetsk. You seem to be implying Kiev has some divine right over the territory by virtue of being Kiev that people in any given local region of autonomy don't have. Keep in mind Ukraine is a very rare example of such a large and diverse country not being a true federation or true republic in nature and instead having centralized authority and power. I would very much think the locals know how to rule themselves much better than some comedian >and if the ethnic minority is significant enough to stir shit up in the future. Again who gets to decide who is the successor and who is the aggressor?
>>35318 >implying land belongs to anyone except the man that can hold it by force >Again who gets to decide who is the successor and who is the aggressor? The one who wins.
>>35305 What is happening in the third video?
>>35309 >these new offshoots of other cultures form an entirely new culture on their own That's exactly what I'm saying. Cajuns and Creole were cultures created from repeated settlement and change of hands before the Americans came, in a similar way to how American cultures (i.e. Californian, Texan, Rhode Islander) developed. They had their own languages and cultures. German-Americans held onto their German roots and practiced their traditions like other Americans who held onto their European ancestry (i.e. Armenians, Poles). The Amish are a culture all on their own, separate from the rest of America aside from select contact, with their own language that's an offshoot of German/Dutch. Mormons are a similar situation, since their culture and religion are one and the same like Hebrews and Sunni Arabs. The Bretons are not an offshoot of French. "French" as an identity is largely born out of the Parisian ideal of what it means to be such a thing. This led to rampant persecution of the other cultures within their territory (i.e. Bretons, Normans, Picards, Occitans, Catalans, Corsicans) beginning with and staying after the French Revolution to enforce uniformity for the three great ideals. While I agree that they should integrate to a degree to allow civilization to be operable, I don't think that their languages, cultures, etc should be banned unless they're recent, illegal, or violent. Many immigrants, especially from Europe, came to America because staying in their home country was untenable, and returning to those home countries, potentially generations down the line, is unlikely when coerced. The World Wars are an example of this, as Axis/Central Power-Americans would be arrested or held under suspicion of sedition or treason. They couldn't go home, so they had to abandon their heritage. Those who couldn't due to innate differences, like Japanese-Americans, would be put in internment camps. Their children would be hit constantly with propaganda and opinions telling them that the homeland their family had held dearly to a few years ago was a place of barbarism. >at least i have legitimate reasons for hating him Understandable. I only wanted to state why the diplomatic issue was far larger than what was said not being official policy. >your ancestral clay may be important but what really matters is if your people are still alive or not There's little reason, especially when presented with force you can fight against and sympathetic powers, to leave your homeland. If conquered, history and your people will eventually forget your nation. It's similar to how immigrants to America eventually saw their state or the Union as their home, losing contact with their ancestral roots outside of passing interest or holdovers. It doesn't matter if they carry your blood if they can't speak your language, don't know your customs, don't celebrate your holidays, and will eventually disseminate into the larger gene pool. When your homeland is reconquered, if ever, the conquered population will likely hold the land your great grandparents had, unwilling to give it up. Not every people are the Polish or Hebrews. Illyrians, Saxons, Karelians, Cornish, Carpathians, Anatolian Greeks, and many others could and will never rise again, even having left their homelands and forming exclaves elsewhere. Driven into extinction or near-extinction by genocides, those few who remain can barely hold onto their identities.
>>35309 >and europeans immigrated from the fertile crescent, who immigrated from africa, etc. If everyone is an immigrant, nobody is. You have been feed false woke history.
>>35326 >Carpathians https://darkseries.fandom.com/wiki/Carpathians >Carpathians are an ancient, long-lived species from the Carpathian Mountains, the longest lived out of all the species. Their species was in danger of extinction for hundreds of years due to warfare, fertility problems, and the loss of their males to vampirism.
>>35317 >as the fog of war was lifted over the last 48 hours >implying that can even happen until basically years after cessation of hostilities Kek. Are you some kind of glownigger, friend-tourist?
>>35317 You dont get it. Ukrainians lured evil vatnik orco-decepticons into a trap by giving them the entire city and now pumping them full of artillery shells. The city was prepared for such valiant ukrainian defense because the fortifications are facing only the one direction. >but arent commieblocks perfectly fine defensive structures? They are special commie blocks with one wall removed to prevent evil vatnigger scum from seeking shelter inside >but isnt there a secound wall they can hide behind? Uhh.... The commie blocks in severodonetsk do not have walls at all and the remaining supports have tactical gloryholes drilled inside to allow Ukrainians to slaughter ruscists en masse. And there is a pile of washing machines right in the middle of the city, sitting on giant red x, and there is a 9001 ton anvil hanging above, waiting for these russnigger vatnik retard orc subhumans. >>35331 >implying anybody here is dumb enough to fall for your bait.
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1 Bakhmut direction. 2Chechnya in Donbass. 3 All Saints Skete of the Svyatogorsk Lavra is on fire in the DPR 4 Dontesk 5 severely injured Ukrainian soldier near Severodonetsk >>35323 >In the Melitopol region, a sabotage and reconnaissance group of Ukrainian terrorists was liquidated. It included well-trained people who were directly related to the Ukrainian special services
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Bakhmut direction.
>>35316 It was a weapon cache.
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3 Nikolaev port 5 Ukrainian killed his neighbor for preparing shashlik. And he killed him with an automatic rifle,which he received from the Ukrainian authorities to protect Ukraine
>>35340 What's wrong with shashlik?
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>>35337 >have limited ammo and poor logistics >waste it on civilian targets High iq move.
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Kharkov
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>>35344 More
>>35340 >1st pic I can't believe ukros are gonna get cucked into extinction.
>>35329 Go away. /k/ isn't a place for undersexed middle-aged women.
>>35340 >kikes flee the country >kike president gives AKs to everyone >goys start to kill themselves >kikes return to country and buy all the land Just as planned, eh?
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>UAF units, have suffered critical losses (in some units up to 90%) during the battles for Severodonetsk t russian MOD RF forces took control of Sosnove South-East of Izyum and Brusikova South of Liman. RF forces advancing South of Izyum towards Dolina/Krasnopilya. There is a battle going on in Pryvillya
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>>35350 Honestly cunts from ukraine are some of the ugliest, most desolate hags I have ever seen.
>>35351 Sounds about right for free and democratic nations in general, to be fair.
>>35341 It's implied the hohol killed the other holhol for daring to prepare a meal that is either of russian origin or enjoyed by russians.
>>35341 I'm guessing the implication is that the smoke from the fire would signal the Russians or something so the rifle dude lost his shit.
>>35349 >t russian MOD We're talking about thousands of troops so I'm gonna take that with a grain of salt. Maybe 90% retreated.
>>35351 It's probably the urban-rural beauty split as usual in countries that embrace trans-niggerism. Slav women in general have some specific bone structures/fat deposits in their body/face that some men find hot and other men find ugly depending on if you see it as masculine traits or beauty traits. Slav women tend to not age gracefully either so they lose beauty proportional to how close they are to menopause.
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>>35354 if they have time to grill then they're probably not in a combat-heavy zone, probably in the west
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Situation according to OSINT reddit sources.
>>35354 No, I'd guess >>35353 is right. Probably just saw it as a culinary shibboleth.
>Armenian entrepreneur Ognes Kamaryan assassinated in Moscow with 3 shots
>>35352 >ukraine >free >democratic >nation >>35355 And here is the catch- they cannot really retreat, since the bridges are, well, FUCKED. Estimates showed that there were around 4 000 troops (but who knows for real?), while the rest retreated to Lysiczańsk. They pretty much only hold (held?) the industrial zone (where huge vat of acid got blown up in azot chemical plant. I question how survivable being at ground zero of that would be, though presumbly there are some post-soviet bunkers in there so they might hid from the worst), river bank ans the villages to the south (except for Metalkine). Ukrainians are trying to say there is some grand counterattack happening, see >>35364, but: >again, bridges are fucked, reinforcements from the other side of the river cannot really get there (unless the state of the third , damaged bridge is better then we know of (and iirc there were photos of it)) >this also means no heavy equipment >they are showing regions of the city as reconquered that did not belong to the russians to begin with >they have some bullshit theory of superior western artillery destroying russians in prepared killzones. Everyone that paid attention knows how ridiculously hard it is to expell troops from a city. So yeah the ukrainian version just doesnt really make sense.
>>35340 It would seem that church was situated on a hill and the Ukrainian soldiers were using it as a bunker/lookout position.
>>35368 Hey, just because Ukraine is harvesting the fruit of free and democratic nations, it doesn't mean it never was those things.
>>35368 Allegedly there were Polish mercenaries heard over communications from the industrial area the Ukrainians are holding. Take that for what you will.
I mean please correct me if I am wrong or my assumptions are wrong or there appeared some recent info, but as far as I can see there is hardly a way for ukrainian claims to not be bullshit (especially of destroying 10 russian BTGs these need better name tbh and killing 2 000+ russians and counting in the city, today alone. >>35372 These rumors about polish mercs are going since 2014 and they are always baseless. Besides, its not like polish soldiers are any good.
>>35373 >killing 2 000+ russians and counting in the city, today alone. The Ghost of Kiev is stronger in death!
>>35373 They are exaggerated bullshit based on how the Ukrainian MOD interprets combat losses of the Russians. For Ukraine, any vehicle that breaks down, becomes tactically unnecessary, etc. is a "vehicle casualty." You blew a hole in the fuel tank that they repaired within a day or two? That's a vehicle casualty! You saw a group of twenty Russians and shot one before throwing a grenade and running? That's twenty Russian casualties even though of the twenty only one was wounded badly enough to need evacuation, and it wasn't even the guy that was allegedly shot.
>>35375 Western audiences being conditioned to see casualties = exclusively deaths, isn't helping either.
>>35373 >these need better name tbh A ˝battalion tactical group˝ is a bunch of battalions working together. And guess what, that is exactly what a brigade is supposed to be. I strongly suspect that the Russkies got infected with a bad case of 'mericanism when they thought up this name. I get that they are supposed to be somehow even more self reliant than a normal brigade, with a stronger focus on combined arms, but then they should call them combined arms brigades, or independent brigades, or Überbrigades, or something along those lines.
>>35375 Reminds me how vehicle losses were counted tin WW2 on eastern front. German tanks gets blown up? But we can collect the pieces with pincers and send it back to factory to be welded together? That's not a loss. Russian tank gets broken down clutch on route to the battle? Whatever, Yuri, just mark it down as a loss, it's easier to get the fresh one straight from the factory. It's obviously a hyperbole but you get the point. They did similar to personnel, but I kinda like how commies counted manpower loss.
>>35374 >muh gohst of kiev let it go already, vatnik
>>35380 nevr
>>35348 You joke about this but the babushkas expats in my region are all thinking it
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Nika-Tera port in Nikolaev
>>35382 Why do normalfags always add retarded music and watermarks on the videos?
>>35388 The watermarks I understand because it makes it "theirs" when it's shared. The shitty stock music or crap same 10-20 commercial songs still baffles me.
>>35259 Ah, so that's where all the money Biden sent is going to.
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>>35374 >not The Ghost of Kyiv You had one job! Are even vatnik glowniggers scraping the barrel for pure-diversity now?
>>35385 “Nothing drives down real estate prices like a good old fashioned gang war, apart from an outbreak of plague..." Universal wisdom
>>35367 >Woman flees his benefactor's body The rich usually die alone, what a sad fate
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>>35382 b..but.... drones were supposed to replace tanks, aircraft and infantry!
How Russia could have avoided retarded amount of casualtied: >Realise it's 2022 and not 1980, proceed to equip every MBT and IFV with an APS and modular composite armor >Realise it's 2022 and not 1975, equip every infantryman with GOST/BR 5 plates >Realise it's 2022 and not 1945, equip every infantryman with magnified optics >Realise it's 2022 and not 1970, supply every infantryman with AP ammunition >Realise it's 2022 and not 1944, stop rolling out tanks and infantry in the open >Realise it's 2022 and not 1990, make sure your assault is supported by very strong anti-air systems Woah, so complicated.
Possibly related to a widening conflict WW3: >b queen of bongland >no need to walk because people carry you around on their shoulders >have 70th platinum jubilee celebrations in your honor >hard pass on most of the celebrations because you can't walk due to 'mobility issues' >People unironically fall for this excuse. So obviously they are randomly changing her schedule based on threat intelligence to stop her from getting $whacked. So who is it trying to $whack her, and why is it the Russians™? To say someone who could lie in bed and get carried to wherever they want can't go somewhere due to 'mobility issues' is a straight up lie. There are no wheelchairs, no seniors scooters, no carry chairs?
>>35396 >Woah, so complicated You joke but in Russia's defense, they have not fought the kinds of wars recently that America (and by some extension NATO aligned forces or other US allies) has where that sort of information is shared. Russia made some obvious blunders of logistics like invading too far, getting their artillery hit, and not actually cracking down of rubber stamping on vehicle inspection forms so they are learning quick, but it's possible their brutish way of acting abroad prevented them from having to balance war gains with hearts and minds like they are in Ukraine.
>>35398 >the queen getting JFK'd For what purpose? She's old enough to die on her own.
>>35396 We do not know the amount of real casualties for both sides. Oryx might be the closest estimate, at least as far as russian vehicle loses go, but it is also obviously not impartial and smells of cia niggery. As for reducing loses, its less about equipment and more about shock and awe style raid during the initial part of the invasion. After this, and russians changing strategy they have been suffering much lesser losses. I would even dare to suggest they will end with better K:D ratio then ukrainians As for other points: >aps and composites APS is still outside of realm of being produced in large enough quantities for this to be viable. All russian tanks since t-64 have composite+era. From my poor understanding the problem is not armor, as it can still withstand anything, but poorly armored turret ring in t-72 and extra ammo outside of the carousel autoloader cooking off. I am sure there are more knowledgable people here that will call me a nigger and correct me. >plates Yeah. Though bear in mind that large part of the forces you see are separatist militias. >optics and ap ammo No opinion, but its not like small arms really matter in a war >bringing a gun to artillery fight >tanks in the open Its ukraine, an empty steppe. There is really no much cover in there. Donbass is pretty much the most hilly place we will see fights in. If anything what can be criticized is tanks going in alone without support and getting rekt by infantry anti tank weapons. Then again, the perspective is skewed since the documented takedowns are of situations where the combined arms approach has already broke down, obviously. >anti-air What? russians have very good anti-air systems and have air superiority, contrary to what reddit says. They had some problems with drones early on but it seems to be a solved problem at this point. Why they are not using CAS more? fuck if I know, but ukrainians also have russian anti-air systems + thousands of crappy stingers, so this is the most likely reason.
>Ukrainian MoD confirms Davydiv Brid and Soldatske is under Russian control. Well, that's a wrap on Ukrainian Kherson offensive I guess.
>>35402 Anything new on Severodonetsk? Or is fog of war still too thick to know what the fuck is going on?
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>>35403 Conflicting reports. From what I've gathered, Russians controlled 70-80% of residential area, while not going into southern industrial zone. There was a counterattack by UAF, managed to capture two microdistricts in Severodonetsk and make a foothold in settlement east of the Severodonetsk, after which attacked bogged down. The whole thing looks like Ukraine suddenly changed mined about the retreat from Severodonetsk, as they have been actually pouring in more troops into the cauldron. This could have something to do with the new CiC of UAF, some chick allegedly took control of military matters. Some reports say Ukrainians put International Legion as a cannon fodder in Severodonetsk in order to slow down Russian advance.
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1-2 Kiev 3 factory in Kramatorsk 4 Close quarters destruction by TOS Kherson - Nikolaev direction
>>35404 Too early to say for certain. But this smells like another Snake Island in the making, except 10x worse. And by that I mean willfully playing into Russia’s objective of demilitarizing Ukraine for the sake of propaganda.
>>35404 >some chick I don’t have the time for many details now, but the Anti Ukrainian Z telegram channel has a post linking to another Twitter post with her bio. tl;dr she’s a spook and likely one of the people who are “really in charge.”
>>35398 Strelok, she's 96 years old. Getting in and out of cars, or walking down a church aisle and then sitting on a hard wooden bench for a long service, or standing on a balcony waving for hours, are things that can actually become difficult when you're pushing a century. Looking at a very old woman struggling with being very old and interpreting it as some plot over WWIII is just schizo tier.
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OH NO-
>>35405 >4th webm yeah fuck that field
Kharkiv
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Foreign Legion fighters alleged location
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Russian-Chechen commander 'Apti' made a video from Severodonetsk denying the Ukrainian claims they recaptured large parts of Severodonetsk. The again, exact location is not given so video could be taken from outskirts. At the end of the video he complains that Ukrainians are making false claims and he has to make videos to dismisse them. Waiting for some geolocation fags to geolocate the place of filming so we can know for sure.
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>>35429 Thats industrial zone so that it really doesnt tell us anything about the situation on the ground. I just wish people would stop lying. Pic related.
>>35430 >Russian-Chechen commander 'Apti' made a video from Severodonetsk denying the Ukrainian claims they recaptured large parts of Severodonetsk. They lied too much to have any credibility at this point.
>>35412 >Lemon Banana heh.
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>>35433 Hand it over
>>35432 >>35430 Yeah, anything the Chechens' commanders say is pretty much guaranteed shitposting even if their troops are Russia's MUHREENS in that they will charge into suicidal battles and come out victorious. Geolocate him and give a 1km radius connecting to the Russia front lines, but don't trust much more than that and the cooking from a Chechen.
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>>35430 According to some anon from 4/k/, its here. >>35432 Speaking of 4/k/ I have seen this, word for word written in there. I have also seen some nigger copying an pasting my posts in there. I am watching you.
>>35435 I trust neither side untill they substantiate their claims. Just pointing out that everybody has their own narrative here and neither side can be taken for granted. I'm still laughing about the whole borderpost fake. >>35436 >According to some anon from 4/k/, its here. Brae man, goint into that cesspool and coming back alive. But thanks for geolocation, now only the date is unceritan, but probably today or yesterday given the events
You guys think we will get an ace this war? Ghost of Kiev not withstanding of course.
>>35438 Ghost of Kiev 2 days before shooting down 10 Russian ace pilots - 2021 Colorized
>The authorities of the territories of the Zaporozhia region have issued a decree on the nationalization of Ukrainian property in the region. >Whatever was owned by the state of Ukraine on February 24 2022 is subject to nationalization. >This includes: 1. Land 2. Subsoil & minerals 3. Industrial, agricultural, and other enterprises 4. Civilian infrastructure facilities (including the Zaporozhia Nuclear Power Plant) 5. Real estate objects 6. Other assets >In general, all this will now no longer work for Ukraine. It will now be managed by the Civil-Military Administration of the Zaporozhia region, which is determined to join Russia through a referendum. >PS. In the neighbouring Kherson region, the Civil-Military Administration announced today that Russia is in the Kherson region forever. The first batch of applications for Russian passports has already been sent.
Severodonetsk 05/06/2022 from a russian source. >1. Fighting continues in the area of the Azot chemical plant industrial zone. The enemy also maintains communication with Lysychansk through one of the damaged bridges—heavy equipment passes there with great difficulty, but vehicles pass [more easily]. >2. The transfer of reinforcements from Lysychansk to Severodonetsk, after the Ukrainian Armed Forces had surrendered almost the entire city, made it possible to stay in the Azot area and start battles in the adjacent residential area, while Ukrainian sources themselves admit that there is no ambition to recapture Severodonetsk. The fighting will accordingly continue in the industrial area, and part of Severodonetsk will soon turn into an analogue of Mariupol in terms of destruction of high-rise buildings and other residential buildings, taking into account the active work of the Ukrainian Armed Forces' artillery in Severodonetsk. >3. It is unlikely that the command of the RF Armed Forces planned to storm Lysychansk head-on after taking the industrial zone of Severodonetsk. The real assault on Lysychansk will come when they break through the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Privolye and Ustinovka, advancing to the outskirts of the city—regardless of what will happen in the [Azot] industrial complex. >4. Of key importance for all these battles is the struggle for the Artemovsk-Lysychansk highway, since control over it will devalue any efforts of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to hold Lysychansk and Severodonetsk, unless, of course, there is a plan to sacrifice the entire grouping of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, as well as all the foreign mercenaries who were abandoned to hold the Azot industrial zone. >5. So far, the RF Armed Forces have ensured complete fire control over the route, which has already affected the supply of Severodonetsk and Lysychansk. But there is no complete block on the highway yet, so individual vehicles and groups are still passing; however full-fledged supply, which was possible back in the first half of May, can no longer be ensured, despite all efforts to push the RF Armed Forces away from the area of Belogorovka and Berestovoye. The current task of the RF Armed Forces in this direction is to grind the enemy's reserves in the upcoming battles and cross the Artemovsk-Lysychansk highway. >6. Naturally, the activity of the RF Armed Forces in the direction of Seversk is also expected, since taking under fire control (which is not yet achieved) the Artemovsk-Seversk-Lysychansk highway will lead to the notorious operational encirclement of the Severodonetsk grouping, which will simply lose the ability to re-supply through Artemovsk, and any retreat will entail serious losses. >7. Therefore, in the near future, on the one hand, we will observe positional battles in the area of the Severodonetsk industrial zone and high-intensity battles north of Soledar
>>35441 >3. It is unlikely that the command of the RF Armed Forces planned to storm Lysychansk head-on after taking the industrial zone of Severodonetsk. The real assault on Lysychansk will come when they break through the positions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Privolye and Ustinovka, advancing to the outskirts of the city—regardless of what will happen in the [Azot] industrial complex. inb4 "Russian aggression has stalled!" for the thousandth time when Severdonetsk RF Armed Forces camp in the city after taking it while waiting for the rest of Russia to catch up.
Kek
>Rivers are drying up in Ukraine as Summer begins >Rivers were the only thing stopping further Russian advances What does this mean, /k/?
>>35440 >PS. In the neighbouring Kherson region, the Civil-Military Administration announced today that Russia is in the Kherson region forever. The first batch of applications for Russian passports has already been sent. Heh. Can't blame civvies for making the most of the situation and fleeing to Russia though, Hell, cheap gas and a localizing economy means they can probably find work.
>>35444 Depends on where these rivers are? But I've seen pictures of rivers behind dams that Ukrainians blew up are at almost-dry water levels.
>>35382 He didn't fly so good.
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Belarusian man seems to think that the Ukrainians are just hamming it up while they reinforce their retreat line to stall the Russians until the two smaller city districts at Sievierodonetsk are properly retreated after losses and that in the grand scheme of things, Lysychansk won't matter since they will either camp on opposite sides of the river or the Ukrainian logistical lines will be in critical danger and Ukraine will be forced to retreat to prevent mass encirclement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpdupRPVk6A
>>35382 There needs to be smaller, cheaper anti drone missiles created in order to put more economic pressure on drone usage.
Apparently Russians launched a counteroffensive in Kherson and established a bridgehead over on the Ukrainian side of the river now. Rumor has it that a large Russian force is moving into the Southern front to reactivate it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A686-M-ABLg
>>35398 Do you think Putler or his minions are so dumb/desperate that they'd start killing off enemy heads of state? Besides, killing someone like Bojo or Bidup would just lead to national remembrance day, shooting down a member of the Royal Family is the equivalent of getting all the monarchists in the UK to push the big red glowing buttons.
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Just what the hell is going on in Severodonetsk?
>>35450 There are, EW equipment and new 'Anti drone guns' but you make do with what you have on hand when the moment comes. Is it cost ineffective? Yes. Did it do the trick? Yes.
>>35454 Is Severodonetsk Konotop 2: Cauldron boogaloo?
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>>35456 It just gets dragged out, and even if something happens it gets covered in so much propaganda that trying to look up anything is like waddling through mud. At this point I just want to see a general collapse of the hohol forces, because at least I'd have some fun seeing how they spin that into a Russian defeat.
>>35456 That's the plan. Although attacking Lysichansk from Severodonetsk is not a good idea. Lysichansk is located on dominant high ground and you will have to go over a river in full view6of UAF. Russians are probably gonna go on with their plan to from a pocket from Popasna if they can grind down enough of Ukrainian forces by artillery
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Reposts from Telegram, so I don't know the source. But the "Just remember this..." part sounds like the original artist is pro-Ukrainian. I cannot tell if the artist means Ukraine still has a lot of fight left in it, or that Ukraine has too much to lose if it surrenders. Because the country comparisons makes it look like Russia is, in fact, doing exponentially better than reported by Western propaganda.
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>>35460 forgot 1 Russian troops moving through a tree line 2 some MIG got shot down 3Severodonetsk 4 amour vehicles inside the industral zone of Severodonetsk
1Marching to the industrial zone in Severodonetsk. Rest: Another rebellion of the soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine against their commanders.
>>35463 1Marching to the industrial zone in Severodonetsk. 2 LPR in Severodonetsk 3-4 shelling Dontesk
1 Ukrainian armored personnel carrier crossing the bridge near Slovyansk 2-3 unknown location 4 Polish T-72M1 tanks and the Dutch YPR-765
>>35459 Somebody should make a ww1 version >germany occupied only 5% of france. Just you remember this when you offer france to surrender >>35460 Rumors say it was ukrainian plane shot down by their own air defense, lmao.
Russian special forces ambushing Ukrainian patrol,smash and grab prisoner for intel. Warning, music is plastered over video.
>>35472 Damn. Didn't even see the Russians off to the left the first time. These are the kinds of videos I enjoy seeing from the war.
>>35473 >tfw future wars will be bunch of zoomers sitting in trenches, looking at their tablets and hunting each other with suicide drones. I'm not sure how to feel about that. But yeah, I like these kind of videos, especially the night hunting ones.
Apparently Ukrainians are blowing up bridges early near Svietagorsk in order t
>>35475 In order to force troops threatening mutiny into fighting. Ukrainians aren't shooting their own yet, but threatening prison for any soldier who tries to retreat across the river instead of facing the Russians. Wasn't there a mutiny near there?
>>35476 Ukrainian barrier troop influencers with antipersonnel loitering munitions hunting traitors in exchange for epic upboats soon?
>>35476 There was. Fucking terrifying, never get yourself conscripted. Dima from military summary speculates now that russians are planning to use T-62 to guard the Ingulec river de facto border in kherson , just drop them every kilometer as a sort of sentry post. Not sure if this is possible or reasonable. It certainly would prevent fording attempts and would give enough time for cavalry (VDV) to arrive, but they also would probably be in range of javelins. Then again who knows.
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>>35476 Source and proofs?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-russia-agree-de-mining-operation-ukrainian-ports-erect-grain-corridor >turks will demine Odessa and escort ships >nobody even asked ukraine about this Heh. What is erdogen thinking here though? >be a member of nato but buy advanced anti air systems from natos biggest enemy while selling to natos biggest enemy enemy weapons >then stopping natos expansion and working openly on unblocking ports with natos enemy >all that while gearing for war with ally of natos enemy Whats the endgame here? Is pissing everyone off a sound geopolitical strategy?
>>35481 Someone suspected they were deploying them to Kherson and Izium last week for that purpose, yeah. Wouldn't surprise me. >>35483 Belarus guy said it.
>>35486 Erdogan thinks himself a Sultan of the Ottoman Empire and acts according to whatever keeps him in power. Sort of like the Saudi royalty but less honest about the whole dictatorship.
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>>35487 >Belarus guy said it. Did he at least get pics?
>>35486 He got high on the watermelons.
>>35486 >What is erdogen thinking here though? Well, I imagine he's got a war that's about to get real bloody on his Southern border, so ramping up the economy now (including the demining of the Black Sea) is in his best interests.
>>35405 >4 Close quarters destruction by TOS That's pretty metal
>>35459 >Ethnically russian areas separated from Ukraine >Ethnically briton areas separated from France >Liberal/commie German sector separated from conservative/industrial Germany >Ethnically non-terrone/white areas separated from Cosa Nostra Italy Is the map supposed to be against these?
>>35488 >acts according to whatever keeps him in power Cause everyone to hate your country so your people are forced to rally with you to survive? It can only go so far when inflation there is killing the country and more of their political class are openly attempting to dethrone Erdogan from power. I have the feeling Erdogan wouldn't be able to get away with arresting everyone he doesn't like forever, especially when he has to continuously arrest large portions of his military. That doesn't give the appearance of a stable leader like Xi who can safely arrest isolate all cities to death without repercussions.
>>35504 Anon the dude had something like a third of his army coup against him and still threw 'em all in prison and killed the leaders. I don't think he's particularly worried about political factions. Should it actually happen that would be pretty great though. I'm waiting on baited breath for what NATO's excuses will be when Erdogan goes full totalitarian dictator after the Syrian war bankrupts his country amid all this.
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>>35489 Source is russian MoD. Take it with a pinch of salt, but if it turns out the bridge is down it will be basically confirmed, due to ukrainian troop placement, russians doing everything to get that bridge untouched and russians going full mongol in this war and always leaving a way for enemy to retreat (usually through easilly shelled corridor; see:Lyman, current Donbass) . Honestly so far russian MoD is rather trustworthy, except when it comes to specific numbers. More trustworthy then western/ukrainian sources for sure, pic related >>35409 Please, tell us more. Speaking of picrel, it turned out the counteroffensive was bullshit, russians still hold Severodonetsk except for industrial zone. The only confirmed push was in the south, presumbly to prevent russians from cutting off troops in the villages south of Severodonieck (presumed 2k troops and heavy equipment which cannot retreat anymore since the bridge is fucked.) Of course the push failed. It has also reportedly used foreign volounteers >imagine being so cucked you are used as nothing but a cannon fodder by some foreign kleptocracy
>>35476 >>35483 >>35506 Sounds pretty plausible, given the Ukies already tried pushing a law for executing deserters.
>>35483 who the fuck is this cat and why do I see it everywhere
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Looks like Russia stepped up the game.
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>there's a high chance that Ukrainian Severodonetsk counter offensive never even happened
>>35506 >Please tell us more. https://archive.ph/oBJCy https://twitter.com/AZmilitary1/status/1533184966791774208 >After the attempted counteroffensive of the UAF in Severodonetsk, a scandal broke out: journalist Yuri Butusov wrote (that the military is led by MP Mariana Bezuglaya. He called her a "commissar" and complained about politicians who interfere in military matters. >Bezuglaya really arrived in Severodonetsk together with a group of foreign mercenaries to strengthen the extremely difficult situation for the AFU. Zelensky's Office considers Severodonetsk a symbol of resistance. >The commander of the AFU, Zaluzhny, offered several times to withdraw troops from there in order to prevent encirclement, but was refused. >It may seem ridiculous that a certain 34-year-old deputy of the Rada gives orders to the military. But it's not that simple. >Bezuglaya has a military medical education: She completed an internship at the US Department of State, following which she received the specialization "organization and management of healthcare". >Before getting to the Rada, she was senior inspector for monitoring the execution of orders of the Department of Civilian experts of the Center for Performance Assurance of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. >Civilian experts are representatives of the structures of the George Soros Foundations and the State Department, which carried out supervision and reforms in the UAF. And Bezuglaya herself controlled the implementation of the directives of US structures in the Ukrainian army. >In 2019, she became a deputy of the Rada and deputy head of the National Security and Defense Committee. Bezuglaya initiated the creation of territorial defense and promoted the relevant bill. >In 2021, she headed a temporary commission that investigated the reasons for the failure of the operation to deliver the "Wagnerians" detained in Belarus. >In 2022, she filed in the Rada, a bill on the possibility of shooting soldiers who refuse to follow the orders of the commander. But after an excessively loud and negative response, the bill was withdrawn. >Thus, Mariana Bezuglaya is one of the key functionaries of the American representation in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Therefore, it is not surprising that Ukrainian commanders listen to her. >But there is also a political context in the scandal. >At the end of May Bezuglaya wrote on her Facebook (https://zn.ua/POLITICS/sluha-bezuhla-trebuet-vozbudit-delo-protiv-butusova-on-otvetil.html ), that the SBU should initiate a case against Butusov because of the information he distributes. >Butusov and TV presenter Sokolova, who published a photo of Bezugla, are close to former President Petro Poroshenko. >Therefore, the scandal that broke out is also part of the confrontation between the current and former presidents. But given Medvedchuk's testimony, Poroshenko himself is silent while his people are running the campaign.
>>35513 >She completed an internship at the US Department of State, following which she received the specialization "organization and management of healthcare". >she was senior inspector for monitoring the execution of orders of the Department of Civilian experts of the Center for Performance Assurance of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. >>Civilian experts are representatives of the structures of the George Soros Foundations and the State Department, which carried out supervision and reforms in the UAF. This has to be a fucking joke. The first one is one of the most laptop-class non-jobs POG garbage I have ever heard. There is no way this is real.
>>35514 If it’s not real, then a Jewish comedian being President of Ukraine isn’t real either. These people are your spearhead for the defense of freedom now, bucko.
>>35516 Helis seem to have really poor performence in this conflict. You think we could stick an aps on them or would it be impossible?
>>35518 Propaganda videos of Russian Ka-52 shows they can be very much useful at precision strikes, although haven't seen much of the Mi-24 unfortunately. But yeah, helicopters definitely have their place in modern day arsenal, be it strike or transport of troops/evac of wounded. Just that this is the first time we see them in any meaningful operational capacity that has environment saturated with MANPADS/SAM so losses are inevitable.
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According to DPA the Ukrainians are claiming territory in Lugansk WAAAAAY outside the battlefield range balls-deep into Russian territory, so there's even MORE confusion now about what the fuck is going on in Luhansk.
>>35516 >Mi-14 allegedly shot down on second pass >no video about it A damn shame.
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>>35524 There is no confusion if you ignore ukrainian/western sources.
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>>35528 You're not getting the whole story if you don't at least keep an eye on what they are saying to make sure you aren't being scammed. Russians tend to exaggerate too (even if not as much).
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1 The first train with grain went from Melitopol to the Crimea 3 Ukrainian Armed Force
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pepe the facebook frog stickers on one of the russian's
>>35533 What are they saying in the 4th video?
>>35537 I don't speak Ukrainian/Russian but it's a video of ukies surrendering.
>>35537 I think he's asking for name and rank, then yelling to lay down. Not sure though
>>35536 Reality is getting too weird
>In the Zaporozhye direction, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are preparing for a counteroffensive >Assault groups of the 81st Guards Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are concentrating in Hulyaipole and preparing to attack Marfopol from two directions in order to expand the security zone. >The Armed Forces of Ukraine attacked the positions of the RF Armed Forces in the area of ​​Pyatikhatki. In response, the areas of concentration of 128 fire brigade in Kamenskoye and Shcherbaki were hit. >Foreign mercenaries were spotted in the area of ​​Novoandreevka. Hulyaipole, round two, LET'S GOOOO
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>>35522 >1Drone footage of the Svyatogorsk Lavra >bridge destroyed on ukrainian side Were barrier troops rumors true?
>>35545 I figured the existence of barrier troops was a given for the defending side. Otherwise normal men have no reason to die for their corporatist kike overlords regardless of ethnicity or age.
>>35459 >Russia occupies 600,000 km2 of Ukraine's territory >This is 100% of France/Germany/Italy >Just remember this when Ukraine doesn't surrender.
>>35511 Sounds exactly like how WW1 was started, where Serbia was ready to capitulate to demands set by Austria-Hungary. But then Russia had to get involved and made the Serbians think they could fight Austria-Hungary and that started mobilization in all the countries and it fucked over everything. Only difference now is Russia has changed roles and the West is making Ukraine think it can fight a larger power when it was ready to capitulate.
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>Get pics related recommended in YouTube from watching Ukraine news so much. I have no words.
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So how could this entire shitshow directly benefit my life? Is there any financial manipulation that I can do to make money off this somehow?
>>35513 Glows more than a nighttime bombing, a woman to boot >>35549 >"Oceania and Eastasia are the greatest allies, always have been" >"Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia"
>>35548 It this case however I seriously doubt NATO is going to provide anything more than arms for Ukraine and that is even becoming questionable after all of Europe started to blink over the prospect of not having any fuel this winter. Unless Ukraine stops following this retarded hope that NATO is going to start WW3 over their retarded asses then they might just get themselves annexed at this rate.
>>35550 Invest in food and gas. Material first, then financial/stocks. Gas is gonna keep going up and food is gonna spike in October when the yearly report releases after this year's abysmal harvests.
>>35550 Buy bombed out land. You could buy a house in kharkov for around 200$ some weeks ago.
>>35518 >You think we could stick an aps on them or would it be impossible? APS is going to be the standard for every military vehicle in the future, only braindead retards don't see it. Helicopters, MRAPs, even ships will have these. APS on ships will reach the point of being capable of defeating heavy ass hypersonic missiles and tank-mounted APS will be able to hit APFSDS rounds mid-air causing damage and reducing penetration. Helicopters will become immune to MANPADS. The only way to defeat tanks and ships in the future will be through ridiculous saturation attacks. And the armies that consider these new systems to be "too expensive to field" will be doomed to be destroyed by superior forces by cheap ass rockets and UAVs.
>>35556 What about DEWs, high energy lasers, and magnetic weapons?
Oy vey!
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>>35556 >>35557 >APS >DEWs >High energy lasers >Magnetic weapons Cool. Now all we need is mechs, and then we can say Battletech predicted the future.
>>35556 Aren't CIWS a form of APS?
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>>35559 Even without mechs battletech is like /k/ wet dream >high bore autocannons everywhere, if you are lucky with homming ammo >bullshit BAR10 ablative armor >attack WiGE aircraft >caseless missiles that are like 90% explosives >self reloading missile launchers for constant minuteslong artillery barrages >pickup mounted railguns >VTOLs with artillery cannons >omni-vehicles, with swappable modular equipment designed in such a way you can slap whatever you want into modular pods and it will still work. >aces doubling as pornstars
Allegedly T-14 has been spotted in Ukraine, exact location not given. Here we go bois, hope to see some combat trials report/footage. This war just keeps on giving, I rate it 8.3/10 so far.
>>35564 This ought to be interesting since the 2nd Guards Motor Rifle Division was stationed near Chernihiv. Other than the anti-aircraft modularity and the fact that the main gun doubles as short-ranged artillery, is there anything particularly fancy about the new T-14s? Seems to just be a mixed gen tank prepping for automated cannon fire while still having a crew.
>>35554 >Brainlet tier: >Invest in food and gas Don't do this. >GOD (Guns Oil Drugs) tier: >Invest in medicines & in the knowledge to create FAG (food ammo gas). Do this. >>35550 >Financial benefit People will be throwing money into goods because not spending it is a waste. (for example $1 not spent today is worth 90¢ tomorrow). Sell hard physical goods related to security or items of high value.
>>35566 If you can invest in the latter over the next 4 months then fine. Otherwise you don't have time for that.
>>35398 >queen can't have mobility issues true >>35400 >>the queen getting JFK'd >For what purpose? >Never heard of chess or know how it relates to reality ngmi >>35410 >Getting in and out of cars... can actually become difficult when you're pushing a century. >Unironically believes a monarch can have "mobility issues" If they told you "she doesn't have anything to wear to the occasion" you'd believe it too. If there are NO planes, NO trains, NO automobiles, NO horses, NO transport, AND their queen CANNOT get out of bed she can STILL go where she wants. The army falls under her command. They lift up her bed and march to wherever the fuck she wants to go. What the fuck did you think "Royalty" meant? >noticing this is "schizo tier" >unironically still using "schizo" in 2022 >unironically thinks "schizo" is an insult in CY kek! >>35453 >Putler >A false flag has never been blamed on someone else ngmi She's more likely depressed and uninterested in doing stuff after losing her husband than someone trying to whack her, but yeah "mobility issues" is a crap excuse.
>>35567 >If you can invest in the latter over the next 4 months then fine. Otherwise you don't have time for that. >Hasn't done it already ngmi
>>35564 That looks like a 3d render on top of a jpg. The model and background have different lighting. Plus, they seem to have two different resolutions.
>>35565 >is there anything particularly fancy about the new T-14s? It's supposed to have top shelf electronics and optics, as well as advanced APS offering 360° protection against both APFSDS and HEAT. Also it has unmmaned turret and separate, armored crew compartment offering much better crew survivability. But don't take picture for granted, still waiting for confirmation, picture could be taken at entirely different location and time, source that I hit it from is not official so take it with a grain of salt. >>35572 Haven't looked to deep into it. But like I said to anon, picture could be either fake or misleading, that's why I wrote 'allegedly' because source is not official and no further proof was posted. I'm hoping it's true tho, I would love to see or read how it preformed.
>>35550 Buy an Ukrainian factory. They're on firesale, and sometimes it's not even literal. The closer to the frontline, the cheaper. See it as a lottery ticket. If it doesn't get flattened, you're an industrialist in a cleptocratic country and chances are you can afford a ticket if you mortgage your house.
>>35560 You're really stretching the definition here. Although CIWS are protection systems, they're not the same thing as Active Protection Systems. The main difference is that a CIWS uses regular autocanon rounds to destroy the threat and it engages it from as far as possible. They also tend to shoot at anything they spot even if it's a decoy. An APS calculated the path of the threat and detects whether it's big enough to worry about or not. If it decides that it's a real threat, it destroys it with an explosive round when it's near the vehicle. What makes APS so good is that it can detect and react to supersonic threats from point blank range. Ships in the future will have both CIWS and APS.
>>35572 >>35565 Shit, source updated and said it was from 2015, somebody fucked up.
>>35565 The T-14 is incredibly overrated. The unmanned turret is actually a huge weak spot. It has barely any armor, so anything bigger than 30mm will render the vehicle combat ineffective. The only significant armor is the front of the hull, where it's probably the best armored MBT there, though again just PROBABLY.
>>35570 >Wasting time smugging at others on anonymous imageboards >Can't sage ngmi
>>35577 >The only significant armor is the front of the hull That's where the crew sits relative to the turret so I would hope so.
The Congolese student fighting with pro-Russia separatists in Ukraine https://archive.ph/d8qmf >Jean Claude Sangwa took up arms in Luhansk – and his pro-Moscow views are mainstream in much of Africa >Fighting alongside pro-Russia separatists as part of Moscow’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine wasn’t mentioned in the brochures of Luhansk University when Jean Claude Sangwa, a 27-year-old student from the Democratic Republic of the Congo, moved to the breakaway region last year to study economics. But when the head of the Kremlin-controlled, self-declared Luhansk People’s Republic announced a full military mobilisation of the region on 19 February, Sangwa, together with two friends and fellow students from DRC and Central African Republic, decided to join the local militia and take up arms against Ukraine. “I joined because the war came to our republic. What should I have done? I am a man and have to fight,” Sangwa said in broken Russian. “The whole world is fighting against Russia,” he added when asked why he had decided to join the militia. >Sangwa moved to Russia two years ago to study in Rostov, a city close to the Ukrainian border, and then moved to Luhansk, which had been captured by separatists backed by the Russian army in 2014. There is a long tradition of Africans studying in Russia, beginning from when the Soviet Union started offering scholarships to African students in newly independent socialist and communist states in the post-colonial period. Between the late 1950s and 1990, about 400,000 Africans studied in the Soviet Union. While the numbers decreased significantly after the fall of communism, Vladimir Putin recently said more than 17,000 Africans were currently enrolled in Russian universities. >Shortly after joining the Luhansk militia, Sangwa was sent into combat and spent two months fighting. During that time, many of his African friends assumed that he was dead and posted goodbye messages on his social media accounts. Three days after the war started, on 27 February, Sangwa’s photo was posted online by Find Your Own, a Telegram channel created by the Ukrainian internal affairs ministry to identify captured and killed soldiers. The post said Sangwa had been killed by Ukrainian forces alongside another African soldier. “The Ukrainian enemy found my military ID card and said I was dead. I am alive, as you can see,” Sangwa said. He is currently back patrolling the streets in Luhansk as a member of the militia. >There is no evidence that apart from Sangwa and his two friends, more African soldiers have been sent to Ukraine. But while Sangwa’s story is unusual, his pro-Moscow sentiments and opinions about who is responsible for the war are mainstream in large parts of Africa. “Certainly, the west likes to think that sanctions have isolated Russia globally,” said Paul Stronski, a senior fellow and specialist on Russia at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. “And they did when it comes to the transatlantic community and wealthy Asian nations. But in the eyes of the rest of the world, and particularly the African continent, Russia isn’t that isolated.” For many years, Stronski said, Moscow has been cultivating ties with African leaders, and in 2019 Putin hosted the first Russian-African summit, attended by the leaders of 43 African nations. “Many on the African continent now believe the conflict is driven by Nato expansion, by reckless western policies,” Stronski said. >According to Stronski, some of Africa’s support for Russia can be explained by anti-western sentiments stemming from the legacy of European colonialism. Russia has been accused of amplifying those grievances ​​through disinformation campaigns on the continent. “In Africa, the west has also been accused of double standards, caring more about Ukraine and its refugees than it does about other tragedies unfolding in Africa and across the world,” Stronski added. Some of Putin’s most enthusiastic supporters since the start of the war have been pan-Africanists – advocates of the doctrine of African unity and anti-imperialism. Putin just “wants to get his country back,” Kémi Séba, a prominent Franco-Beninese pan-Africanist, said in early March. “He doesn’t have the blood of slavery and colonisation on his hands. He is not my messiah, but I prefer him to all the western presidents.” Similarly, a leader of the Nigerian community in Moscow told the Guardian that most Nigerians there were sympathetic to Russia. “The issue is complicated, but the west pushed Russia to do this,” he said. >Beyond issues of morality, Russia has gained a foothold in Africa through developing defensive alliances, supplying weapons to authoritarian leaders with no strings attached and presenting itself as an ally against armed insurgents. Several African leaders, most notably South Africa’s president, Cyril Ramaphosa, have openly said they believe western efforts to expand Nato contributed to the war. Even though African nations are likely to be disproportionately affected by the impending global food crisis owing to their strong dependence on Russian and Ukrainian wheat, some African leaders have shifted the blame for food shortages and price rises on to the west, parroting Russia’s narratives. On Friday, during a meeting with Putin in Sochi, Senegal’s president, Macky Sall, the current chair of the African Union, blamed EU sanctions on Russian banks and products for worsening the problem, and steered away from criticising Russia’s actions, including its blockade of Ukrainian ports. >Despite its political clout in parts of Africa, Moscow has not yet indicated an intention to recruit soldiers from the continent or other places to bolster its forces, even though reports have emerged that Russia is facing a shortage of infantry. Kremlin officials were quick to play down reports that several hundred local men in Ethiopia’s capital, Addis Ababa, had gathered outside the Russian embassy in April hoping to fight in Ukraine. Nevertheless, pro-Kremlin voices have embraced Sangwa’s presence in Luhansk as a sign of the growing military ties between Russia and Africa. On 31 May the Telegram channel WarGonzo, led by the popular Russian propagandist Semen Pegov, posted a video of Sangwa in full military gear patrolling in Luhansk. “It is not just our Wagner guys in Congo,” Pegov said, referring to the notorious, Kremlin-linked, private military group that has propped up authoritarian leaders in Mali, Central African Republic and Sangwa’s home country, DRC. “Now our Congo guys are also in Luhansk.”
>>35581 >bring them civilization >build trains, hospitals, schools >educate them >all for a bit of unrefined resources >they throw you out >still send food when they're unable to feed themselves >still send free doctors and medicine when they can't into medicine due to average 70 IQ >They enter a foreign legion solely to own whitey Fucking Africa. We never should have stepped foot in that accursed place and leave them to be tribal hunter-gatherers while we colonized Mars.
>>35577 Dunno man, projectile still needs to go through APS and maybe ERA, and at that point it would get rekt either way. Though we really do not have much details and would need to see it in action. Werent brits and burgers putting 50mm autocannons on IFVs recently? Maybe its to exploit that. >>35581 Cool. Looks like not much interesting happened recently, other then russians capturing swientogorsk, possibly through commando raid through the river, from the forest in neighbouring village. Also, ukrainian kherson counteroffensive seems to be so effective that russians pushed back and hold village on the other side of the river.
>>35586 I'm a little upset this is the only picture this artist made like this.
>>35582 lol be more subtle next time, Chaim >Moscow’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine The lies begin in the very second line, perhaps the first one depending how is the nigger "taking up arms", i doubt he's going full Butt Naked.
>>35582 Mark my words, Neo Neo Colonialism sooner than you think especially if resources start growing thin in Europe and more migration crises occur
>>35595 >Mark my words, Neo Neo Colonialism sooner than you think >especially if resources start growing thin in Europe and more migration crises occur >Neo Neo Colonialism How exactly? By taking a knee? Who is going to do this colonizing? Woke drag generals wont be getting dirt under their fingernails, and trans Zoomers on Adderal are more a danger to their own gay allies than any enemy. Colonizing requires a homogeneous group with common religion and culture - it was once White Protestant Christians, but parasites have killed the golden goose. No more golden eggs. >>35582 >leave them to be tribal hunter-gatherers while we colonized Mars. Objectively true. Pics related...taxation is theft...but is Strelok waiting for Vintorez to go on sale? Does anyone know of similar sales pages for Afghanistan hardware to compare?
>>35597 P.S. on other fed approved money laundering sites Panzerfaust is listed 4-6x cheaper than this javelin ATGM
>>35584 >Looks like not much interesting happened recently Today may be busier. Russians today are claiming they are beginning the attack on Slavyansk, which is the 2nd half of the final boss of Donbass next to Lisichansk.
Anybody else noticing how there slow narrative shift from 'Ukraine will win' to 'Russia outgubs Ukraine 20 to 1 in artillery'. Did normalcattle got bored or did the reality slowly started to set in?
>Foreign mercenaries sentenced to death in Donetsk Superme Court We did it reddit!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCg2FkIycHM >t-62 roadblock gets shelled >war, war never changes >ukrainians (?) getting ambushed >burger fighters wasting ammo
>>35584 >Looks like not much interesting happened recently On the contrary, the last month has been extremely interesting. It's just all the "boring" sort of maneuvers involving troop movement more than combat. >>35602 Partially normalfags getting bored of the war and partially reality setting in. Ukraine made lackluster gains when given Western equipment so now everybody is realizing the war is gonna drag on for a while and get a lot of innocent people killed because of Western interference. Videos started surfacing of Ukrainian PoWs denouncing Ukraine because of how they were treated by their own nation, and such reports are having a bad effect on the Western narrative.
>>35605 It's sad, but nothing else will discourage such mercs from showing up.
>>35608 >>35605 >>35615 I hope Russia kills all the Redditors
>>35605 >Western headlines: Russia executes defenseless PoW's. As much as I hope this knocks some sense into Redditors about how much Russia isn't playing fuckaround games, I'm afraid the Reddit brigade won't stop coming until there are no more mercs left to send, due to Russia killing them all.
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>4/k/ucks hates Serbia apparently now Literal fucking cuckchan, lol.
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>>35597 >empty tubes >again Also >fake and gay onionsite written in russian
>>35605 https://archive.ph/ytndq Among those three is /@cossackgundi from twitter that was getting posted a while back.
>>35626 He didn't fight so good.
>>35605 RIP, they fought well against the Bolshevik horde.
>>35597 >Who is going to do this colonizing? The new generations, or maybe the French since it seems they hate France a lot but hate bougnoules, Paris and other countries more Also you gotta remember, only 40 years passed between Imperial Germany, Weimar, the Third Reich and split Germany, all countries with a completely separate vision for their future. Just cause we have had a couple of decades of faggot worship doesn't mean it's gonna stay the same forever. >>35619 Me too >>35624 >>35619 Only satisfaction out of this war is that at least we got some nice tans for Russia and Ukraine
>>35605 This will be such a legal clusterfuck. >executed by unrecognized country, basis to declare DNR a terrorist state >one of them has ukrop citizenship and was marine for like two years, hardly counts as mercenery >brits will not accept this as lawfull trial Expect legal fuckery, possibly involving never lifting sanctions and never recognizing any assuming its the goal balkanized post-ukrainian republics. >>35629 I lean you are right if eu wants to just ignore russian gas then they need to find it elsewhere and africa is the closest reasonable choice, and to do anything in there it will need to be reasonably pacified.
>>35631 >possibly involving never lifting sanctions and never recognizing any balkanized post-ukrainian republics. As opposed to? They've already done that for seven years.
Maybe that's what I don't get. Russia and allies have already been vilified and sanctioned to high hell and back. The West talks about "if Russia ever gets their act together then we can talk" but what is there to discuss? Russia is already a denied state in Europe and America. They've even started turning away Russian civilians so it's past the point of no return. Other than advanced "aerospace" military equipment pieces which rumors suggest they will get from Asia and dissident European nations anyways, Russia gains pretty much nothing of value long-term by complying with the West whereas Russia is set up to be the global grocery store after this war.
>>35633 I have no idea what else these kikes can think about but their evil knows no bounds. Maybe they will set up pirates to raid russian ships that just had their maritime insurence 90% of which is backed by one firm in london. shady stuff revoked. After all the good guys can ignore the rules. >>35635 To me this looks like the actions of the west were planned long ago and at the moment russians moved, they deployed it completly ignoring the economic situation in the world.
>>35631 >africa is the closest reasonable choice The chinese have already begun sinking their teeth into that continent, mineral and oil rights in 56 countries last time I checked. And with how corrupt those governments are I'm sure these contracts ensure chinese monopoly on resources. Add on China's in progress economic collapse and I bet they would defend their African resources bitterly. Plus Africa is already friendly to Russia and Russia has food to sell. The west is going to have to start glow-ops/prepare for an invasion in Africa pronto otherwise we'll just be at chinese mercy for hydrocarbons instead of Russia. NATO just ran a simulated invasion of West Sahara last year so I'm thinking that if the west wants a substantive amount of African resources they're going to have to fight for it.
>>35631 >This will be such a legal clusterfuck. Good thing Russia is bringing back the right of conquest then, eh? Kikery games are not an auto win against an opponent who also doesn't care about "International" rules, and has the guns and manpower to back itself up.
>>35581 >There is a long tradition of Africans studying in Russia RIP Russia.
>>35631 >I lean you are right if eu wants to just ignore russian gas then they need to find it elsewhere and africa is the closest reasonable choice, and to do anything in there it will need to be reasonably pacified. Exactly, plus they can depict any state as somehow being evil and ready to invade, they're all either Muslims or ran by local tribes/organized crime groups/chinks proxies, they can even say they're liberating these people from the oppressive yoke of their rulers, Russia/China can do fuckall because they're too far away and outside of Ethiopians (or Egyptians like the last war they had with the Ethiopians themselves showed they are really good at aggressive diplomacy) can probably be steamrolled with relative ease. >>35638 China needs to hop two continents over just to kick some warlord's ass, France does this weekly. At this point the only thing holding back Neoneocolonization is the germs and the EU.
>Kiev loses 100 to 200 soldiers killed everyday according to Zelensky‘s spokesman Man, they're really beating the shit out of each other. According to the reports, for over a month now, Russia has massed artillery and are actively pounding UAF position along the whole theater for days if not weeks before committing to ground assault.
>>35605 Has there been a single instance of foreign mercenaries not going horribly wrong? >>35635 Maybe its all political posturing? They know Russia gains nothing so they do so just to look tough to their voters. I remember libshits treating Biden refusing to talk to Russia just before the war broke out as a sign of strength.
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>>35623 cuckchan /k/ glows harder than 50 suns combined
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>>35605 >death F I feel just a little bad for the Brit. By all accounts he was a Ukrainian soldier, I mean he has a Ukrainian wife for fuck's sake. He shouldn't be getting mercenary treatment when he was in the official military.
>>35646 >for over a month now, Russia has massed artillery and are actively pounding UAF position along the whole theater for days if not weeks before committing to ground assault. So modern warfare is basically back to WWI tactics? One thing I have noticed is that it seems pretty open what each side is going to do. There's a lot of talk about each side preparing an offensive along X front or trying to encircle Y region, well before they actually launch the offensive. And between constant real-time drone surveillance and the inundation of social media reports, it seems like it'd be nearly impossible to hide major information. Certainly, opsec still has an important role, as was shown in the times when Reddit got schools-cum-HQs blown up, but is large-scale deception still possible in the age of modern technology? Compare with things like Operations Barclay and Bodyguard in WWII, which both played major roles in the outcomes in Sicily and Normandy respectively.
>>35652 >So modern warfare is basically back to WWI tactics? I mean it worked for the Americans in the Yugoslav wars and basically every Middle Eastern operation so why not? >but is large-scale deception still possible in the age of modern technology? If Myanmar taught me anything, it sure is. All kinds of shit can happen and you will only get the hearsay at best or usually the propagandized Western intermediary who is only shown the stuff the locals don't consider culturally taboo like rape, chemical castration, and acid torture.
Put into the more localized context of Ukraine, the Russians started launching more cyber attacks and blackouts on Ukrainian energy and phone/internet access about two months ago. When they did, the amount of news coming from the front lines slowed down to a trickle. You get a hodge-podge of OSINT and propaganda statements to sort through and get 3-day-old news of the frontlines, but there ain't shit coming out compared to when this started and the Russians ignored the power of social media. You still get all the missile strike reports because they hit areas outside Russia's area of control or greater sphere of electrical/internet control, but getting accurate information from the frontlines now is a pain. All the journalists are locked up, dead, or retreated. Russia still had the initiative when the initially invaded and the information war issue only mattered for the first two months of the operation. Perhaps critical in a first strike context, however ultimately in any war longer than a few weeks/month or two that element will quickly be lost since people don't like dying. The war will get "interesting" when a big big city like Zaporizhia or Odessa gets land-invaded, but until then it's mostly more on the tactical side of things whic h can be intellectually stimulating but ultimately amounts to shooting the shit.
>>35605 Best special operation of the year. >>35619 Any odds of you having the walking animation?
>>35652 >Certainly, opsec still has an important role, as was shown in the times when Reddit got schools-cum-HQs blown up, but is large-scale deception still possible in the age of modern technology? Compare with things like Operations Barclay and Bodyguard in WWII, which both played major roles in the outcomes in Sicily and Normandy respectively. I think it's still possible, but much harder, plus with how most civillians even on the Russian sides view war it's easier to just be open about your plans and undersell your objectives only to then either overachieve and be heralded as a war hero or underperform and still claim it's a strategic victory. Plus they're effectively back to terror bombing strategies, except now it's also through information. Reminds me of a SNAFU cartoon about misinformation being even worse for the Allies than the Germans or the Japanese themselves. >>35655 Why hasn't Natto started demoralizing the Russians by hitting back at their own civillian infrastructure? Can you imagine slav kids unable to play CSGO and Heroes of Might and Magic III over extended periods of time?
>>35660 >Why hasn't Natto started demoralizing the Russians by hitting back at their own civillian infrastructure? What do you think all these sanctions were for?
>>35579 >little 35mm burst hits super-expensive Russian MBT >turret automated systems completely destroyed because no armor >Super expensive MBT effectively "killed" by a fucking 35mm autocannon Cool design, bravo rosia
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I wonder how much of the supplied artillery/SPG did Ukraine lose already. I've seen some footage of Danish SPG guns getting knocked out and Russians claim they destroyed about 25-30 M777 already. I don't think few dozen of artillery pieces supplied by west could impact war in any way.
>>35660 >Can you imagine slav kids unable to play CSGO and Heroes of Might and Magic III over extended periods of time? Iirc at least Microsoft has done this already by banning Russian IP's from using Microsoft online gaming services. I've only seen one Russian on Age of Empire's II subreddit complain about it briefly. But it sounds like pissing off people who only wanted to play video games is going as well as you'd expect. In that touching their circuses is pushing them toward being pro war, or at least not anti war.
>>35664 >I don't think few dozen of artillery pieces supplied by west could impact war in any way. If they had started training them on such systems through the interim years and such it might have. The way it was used as disposable gear? No you're right it was a waste.
>>35665 This. The sheer pettiness of westerners has contributed more to Russian pro-war sentiment than any Kremlin propaganda ever could.
>>35667 Maybe the Russians shouldn't have been butthurt retards about the Ukrainian people choosing their own future, then there wouldn't be a need for all this sanctioning in the first place.
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>>35668 Maybe the Ukrainians shouldn't have been butthurt retards buying into the idea that sovereignty implies you can boop your neighbors without consequences.
>>35668 What are you talking about, it's a great thing these sanctions are in place and many young ruskies get their rose-tinted-grass-greener view of the West shattered.
>>35668 Are you a retard? His post clearly implied sanctions were good for russia in the long run. Especially since now europe is having to pay for it's gas in rubles.
>>35669 >Maybe the Ukrainians shouldn't have been butthurt retards buying into the idea that sovereignty implies you can boop your neighbors without consequences. When did this happen? In the deranged minds of Russians who believe whatever shit their masters tell them? >>35670 I don't mind that the subhumans get their false views of the West shattered and decide to stick to their own post-Soviet shithole, that's better for Europe in the long run. It's just sad and also hilarious to think that Westerners will keep their rose-tinted-grass-greener view of Russia on, considering what it actually is. It isn't le based trad Orthodox white nationalist ethnostate, it's a Churka-infested, dysgenic, diseased, drug-addicted, deteriorating and dying moral sinkhole. The only difference from the West is posturing, all the while it pushes the same shit the kikes want. Moscow and St. Petersburg are full of churkas and homos and trannies, Russians have the highest abortion and HIV rates in Europe, and are #3 in global suicide rates. It's a degenerate shithole no one wants to live in. Apologies for the rant, I just hate that people fail to recognize that both sides in this war are gay and Jew-controlled and only want to see Slavs killed off. Everything has become so fucking contrarian that if you hate West, you must go and worship Russia, and vice versa. It's like no one has the foresight to look at both and realize how vile they are. I just wish the nukes could start flying so we can start over, already.
>>35672 >When did this happen? Around 2019 when Ukraine decided to ignore the Minsk II agreements, go after ibdig
>>35673 Accidentally'd the post button. go after indigenous populations, ignore the Geneva conventions, elect a bunch of civilians who didn't know what they were doing into positions of high power, encouraged hostile nations into Russian waters, and requested nukes from NATO. Among the lesser grievances.
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>>35631 >basis to declare DNR a terrorist state Iran declared the US Armed Forces a terrorist organization a while back so I doubt anyone gives a shit at this point. >>35638 >my dumb shitpost on old 8/k/ about a NATO-Russia/China colonial proxy war in the Congo circa 2030 might become reality I hope Abyssinia will be alright.
The Major strikes again >https://files.catbox.moe/knke9m.mp4 >https://files.catbox.moe/4xp6sx.mp4 How can one man be so gangsta?
>>35671 >Especially since now europe is having to pay for it's gas in rubles. Akshually, what happens is that the Russians convert all euros and dollars from the gas&oil trade into roubles. Then the west says they are not paying in roubles, and Russia says that they do pay in roubles. They technically don't pay in roubles, but in practice they might as well be, because it does keep the rouble strong enough. The real fun will happen if the Russian will set up those transaction systems that will let any country Russians deem friendly pay either with roubles or their own currency. But I haven't heard anything about those plans progressing since they were announced. Also, don't forget to post on /finance/ so that we can have more of these discussions.
>>35672 I've literally seen this posted elsewhere almost word for word. Take it you can't handle being dogpiled by people calling you out?
>>35672 >It isn't le based trad Orthodox white nationalist ethnostate, it's a Churka-infested, dysgenic, diseased, drug-addicted, deteriorating and dying moral sinkhole Still better than the dysgenic, diseased, nigger-infested drug-addicted, deteriorating and dying moral sinkhole that doesn't even pretend to give a shit about morals and ethics any more, Yvan. Let that sink in a bit. Even if you are 100% correct, I am still better off with the dysgenic slavic mutts than I am with the current Weimar-tier pedophilic death cult that thinks black is white, boys are girls, and that the breakdown of the family is necessary for unknown reasons. Why am I supposed to care that Russia is a degenerate shithole when it is still purer than the current position of the overton window? Because "bad Russians rape/kill people" or something equally retarded? My glasses are not rose-tinted, they are nightmare goggles and everything looks the same. If I am wearing tinted glasses they are not telling me Russia is good, only that everything else is worse.
>>35672 >South America >Mexico Burger education at its best.
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>>35680 This. Let's say everything the anti-Russians say about Russia is true: So what? Russia is still the most moral man in the room.
>>35651 >He shouldn't be getting mercenary treatment because... >He said himself he was a merc during his post-arrest blogging >Other brit said he was on a contract on tape in Jan'22 before the present conflict started >Brit news inferring they are mercs then correcting the slip up >Ukrainian nationality or passports never mentioned >Brit gov ignored Russian offer to swap them before the trial >Brit gov now pretending to care Pawn sacrifice is good for "Russia bad" propaganda - even when it's not Russia but DPR running the show. They are getting the Zog pension because "With jews you lose." isn't just a meme.
>>35096 >>Rumors off and on of Poland getting in on this whole "special military operation" shit Poland, uh, has its own interests there. And just in case they won't get that land back, may extort anything it can from Brussel sprouts. > Turkey acting like they are going to switch sides from NATO to broker peace deal Almost certainly extorts a large bribe from Brussel sprouts and Mirkins. >>35116 If they respected him, they would give him baksheesh without reminders. >>35136 Huh. Wasn't there someone else who also spent too much time safely abroad. The last warning to Zelinsky? >>35152 > They can always blame it on Ukrainian soldiers not being properly trained Much like USSR after the Egyptian-Israeli war. Yes. But it does not matter what they say. Everyone knows that's a proxy war, and if the puppet loses too easily, the puppet-master loses prestige. And loyalty of all other puppets, of course. They were encouraged to threaten a bigger dog, got slowly and deliberately mauled, "Uncle Sam will come and save us, any time now" turned out to be a delusion. After this, who would be stupid enough to volunteer as the next sucker?
>>35655 >All the journalists are locked up, dead, or retreated. Is that because hohols are putting any journalists (like independents Eva Bartlett, and Patrick Lancaster) who dare show balanced coverage on kill list websites?
>>35660 >Why hasn't Natto started demoralizing the Russians by hitting back at their own civillian infrastructure? Can you imagine slav kids unable to play CSGO and Heroes of Might and Magic III over extended periods of time? >Thousands of angry slav kids unable to play first-person-shooter >Thousands sign up to army to do first-person-shooting irl You didn't think that idea through did you?
>>35685 >>Ukrainian nationality or passports never mentioned Aslin is a Ukrainian citizen. He lived in Ukraine with a Ukrainian fiancee and has been in the Ukrainian military since 2018. He's not a merc by any stretch of the imagination.
>>35690 He's faggot who acted tough and talked shit on social media untill he got hit. And worst of all, he's an anglo. For that reason alone he should be executed.
> India is Buying Up Cheap Sanctioned Russian Oil and Selling it to the U.S. and E.U. at Huge Profits https://web.archive.org/web/20220608135222/www.informationliberation.com/?id=63128 They don't even bother to hide it, lol.
>>35692 Tactical pooing action. Imagine "2030 India" becoming real over this nonsense lol.
>>35666 >The way it was used as disposable gear? No you're right it was a waste. Waste? Nah, they got the headlines and soundbites in media for it and procurement dollars for the MIL - mission accomplished. >>35668 >Ukrainian people choosing their own future WEW >>35678 >Russians convert all euros and dollars from the gas&oil trade into roubles. So who exactly is doing the bulk of the converting, i.e. selling the RUB for USD/EUR? >pay either with roubles or their own currency I recall India and Russia were already working on a setup like this even before the current boogaloo kcked off. >>35672 >>35680 >>35683 Opinions are like assholes everybody got one or two >>35685 >Pawn sacrifice is good for "Russia bad" propaganda >>35691 >he's an anglo Killing two birds with one stone really, can't imagine having such a 'representative' was convenient for brit govt. Same can be said for the whole azov lot. Objectively >>35690 is right though. >>35688 >You didn't think that idea through did you? Heh 2013 til now in a nutshell.
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War. War never changes.
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<<35701 Wow, is this the power of Lahta shills? I wonder what fuck up the moskals did this time?
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>>35701 The human condition doesn't either unfortunately.
>>35687 If it's not the Ukrainians killing them it's the Russians.
>>35697 >So who exactly is doing the bulk of the converting, i.e. selling the RUB for USD/EUR? Gazprom bank. The sanctions prevent Russia from using those Euros they are receiving in Europe. If they deposit Euros into Russia's banks, then not only is Russia not getting paid, but they (not Russia) control the contract because they control the money supply and the contractual terms for how much must be paid. This swap to rubles basically flips this on its head since Russia is already refusing to allow international sales of rubles while also buying back rubles from oligarchs and foreigners who can't use them any more on the cheap. If a European country transfers their euros into rubles, they have to go through a Russian bank (only way to avoid sanctions the EU set) and in turn that bank sets the currency conversion rate (and controls the real price of the gas) since the Russian bank has to convert into the fixed amount of rubles they allegedly owe under the (forcefully) modified terms of the agreement.
>>35692 >The US has reluctantly given India permission to buy Russian oil because India has threatened to ditch their alliance with America and ally with China if the US dares to sanction them. I'm pretty sure India would rather suicide than ally with China.
>>35686 >They were encouraged to threaten a bigger dog, got slowly and deliberately mauled, "Uncle Sam will come and save us, any time now" turned out to be a delusion. I'm surprised they even bought in the first place it right after the Afghanistan fiasco.
>>35709 >Afghanistan Probably didn't have much of a choice there by that point since the provocations and defense talks were escalating a few months before that.
>>35707 So much for "sanctions". And squirming like this >>35034 I wonder… what is going to happen if Washington will insist? Cuius Testiculos Habes, Habeas Cardia Et Cerebellum, amirite? >>35708 Which already says something about those who took it seriously, doesn't it?
Belarusian man seems to think the Ukrainians are hurting trying not to close the front line at Luhansk because it would free up enough Russian forces for them to launch another offensive in another region. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trju46e4_kM
>>35715 Would that be Kharkov or Odessa?
>>35715 Russians still might need to replace loses at some point. Ukrainians still should retreat since Lysiczańsk has its supply threatened on all sides and they have (or had) enough troops to defend another front. >>35717 Whatever they want at the moment, really. At this point I would say Avdievka and southern front of Donieck, due to ukrainian shelling on Donieck city.
>>35717 They could attack either with about 30k troops freed up. Odessa would stretch the supply lines more than Kharkiv, but could also bring a quick "end" to the war by landlocking Ukraine thus securing most of Russia's objectives. My bet is on eliminating the Ukrainian artillery currently shelling the shit out of Donetsk. >>35718 They should retreat but I don't know where. The new front line being promoted by Zelensky is "safer" tactically but far less defensible. If they retreat to the more defensible front line though it frees up a lot of Russians for other operations. I think the Ukrainian's best strategy would unironically be to abandon the forces in Lysychansk to Russian sieges while retreating to Zelensky's line temporarily before reassessing, but after everyone saw how Azovstal went and with morale as low as it is after all those failed operations last month, soldiers might just surrender in such a scenario. I don't think the forces in Lysychansk are as ideologically rabid, and Azov was kind of taken by surprise anyways so they only had the option to bunker down when the Russians rapidly expanded the land bridge. Somehow I feel like Zelensky is also thinking of leaving some 5-10k troops behind to rot slow down the enemy. Real life isn't an RTS though.
>>35688 I see it as the exact opposite, instead of people with a clear vision on what a war is supposed to be like it'll be another Reddit brigade type of deal. Worst case scenario, war ends quicker because of human waves of TF2 conscripts, best case scenario we cull the slav gaming population so I don't have to deal with a billion cykas on any online game available. >>35692 Either Natto/EU/US are ran by mouth breathers or they fully knew this and just used it as an excuse to accelerate authoritarianism and hidden taxes on their cattle. >>35704 I miss when Tomoko was just like that picture, now she's basically in a boring yuri harem >>35719 I wonder if the Mayor of Odessa won't immediately surrender if he knew that an attack was coming, Zelensky is insane if he thinks they can hold for more than half a year.
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Hohols found these around Kyeev, and they think it's a sign of Russians wanting to bring back the USSR. For all we know, it might be just some Russian shitposting, but maybe they really wanted to use nostalgia for the commie empire to wrap the elderly around their fingers.
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hohols BTFO
>>35726 OH NO NO NO
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>>35726 T-this will only inspire insurgents to fight harder, R-russia will never defeat the proud LGBTQNSDAP insurgency backed by superior western training and weapons while dumb gopnik conscripts starve in the field after superior Ukrainian artillery destroyed the last Russian supply line near Donetsk/Odessa/Lysychansk/Bakhmut!
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>>35717 I honestly don't know what happens after Donbass, other than Russia ought to have the freedom to attack wherever it chooses. For example, Russians captured the peninsula south of Nikolaev/Kherson across the sea. And so Russian analysts feel this a signal for setting up an amphibious assault against Nikolaev, which means the start of the push toward Odessa.
>>35735 The Russians captured the peninsula earlier this week, I mean. I thought they had it for longer than that. But I guess the Ukrainians were either too well defended from that bottleneck and/or Russia didn't feel like taking it until now.
Ukraine's new military strategy: Bog down the Russian military with too much rape. >In Ukraine, the mobilization of women is being prepared for the purpose of "uninterrupted replenishment of the losses of personnel" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. First of all, until June 15, the mobilization of women who are already liable for military service will start, and until June 31 Ukrainian women from 18 to 60 will be registered for military service. >The order concerns the Dnepropetrovsk, Kyiv, Kirovograd, Nikolaev, Odessa, Kharkov, parts of the Donetsk and Zaporozhye regions.
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>>35737 It's all coming together.
>>35737 >lose 100-200 soldiers a day >still come out of the war with net positive population growth Well played hohols, well played.
>>35723 Looks like some old leftover passports pulled out of a box somewhere. I could see the Russians repurposing them for the refugees saying something along the lines of "you'll get a new one when this one expires." Part of Putin's joke from the beginning was that they weren't only "denazifying" Ukraine, but also "de-communizing" it by killing the oligarchs along the way so it very well could be a shitpost.
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>>35726 >>35727 Don't push your luck, Ivan.
>>35735 >other than Russia ought to have the freedom to attack wherever it chooses. Not really. Acquiring the entire Donbass will actually expand their front line significantly which would be detrimental if the Ukrainians launched a counterattack. It's part of why Russia has been leaving Donetsk to the wolves since the war started since they will have to expand the number of troops involved to both defend Izium and Kherson while also gaining more territory. Once Luhansk and Donetsk are secured the Russians only have two real vectors of attack without bringing on another 30k+ troops or so. They can either push both North and Westward to attack Zaporizhia and Kharkiv around the same time and establishing Kremenchuk/Poltava as the new front line (obviously this will take months), or launch a feint in Kiev or Sumy to distract the Ukrainians while they launch a full assault on Mikolaiv and then Odessa. I imagine the Russians will jump back and forth between Expanding on the Northern or Western front until one of those two fronts shows an opening (like they did in May) and then focus on that front. Something it took me a while to spot was that some of the "slow" movements of the Russians were very deliberate since they are trying not to tactically encircle groups of Ukrainians until they can successfully bomb them along the supply lines on their retreat should the Ukrainians decide to.
>>35744 What attempt are we on now?
>>35736 It was under Russian control, and then Ukraine launched a commando raid on the peninsula. Then Ukraine had a few greenwater patrol boats that were patrolling the peninsula and preventing advancement. They bombed the patrol boats a few days ago destroying one and damaging a second, which was enough to drive off the bridgehead.
>>35737 >The order concerns the Dnepropetrovsk, Kyiv, Kirovograd, Nikolaev, Odessa, Kharkov, parts of the Donetsk and Zaporozhye regions. That sounds more like they are sending the MPs and territorial defenses into infantry positions and are arming the women for the sake of having a warm body with a gun inside those cities being abandoned by territorial defenses. That is... Not a good thing, and a string of women near Donetsk and Zaporizhia might encourage the Chechens to rapidly gain territory. If nothing else it's telling that they will start conscripting women to maintain the defensive line so that they can send out more men.
>>35744 >Severodonetsk tier map drawing There has litteraly been no changes around Kherson for days now, not since Russians obliterated Ukrainian troops at Davidiv Brid and captured two villages on Ukrainian side of Inhulets river. The only thing was Ukrainians claiming to have caputed some villages that were either not under Russian control to begin with or were under Ukrainian control for weeks now.
>>35746 To cross towards Kherson? At least on the current operation I think that's the third or fourth major assault in recent months.
>>35744 You are forgetting about that amphibious ride on the peninsula south of Cherson, which also failed. >>35736 I think it was just an operation to repell abovementioned raid. That place lacks any significant value, I doubt they will try something like that. Maybe to the south of Odessa near Romanian border, but if this place isnt guarded and mined to shit ukrainians deserve to lose it. >>35719 Honestly? They should probably retreat to the west of Dniepr, it is nlw too late for that.
>>35750 >meanwhile in reality russia still hasn't taken severodonetsk Whatever you say /k/oper
>>35752 >but if this place isnt guarded and mined to shit ukrainians deserve to lose it. Weren't there rumors the Turks are planning on demining Odessa with or without Ukrainian consent? >Honestly? They should probably retreat to the west of Dniepr, it is nlw too late for that. They probably should, but that would kill Zelensky's chances at reelection post-war. More importantly there are powerful oligarchs (both foreign and domestic) controlling Zelensky, which is why he didn't order the Mariupol retreat originally. Certain elements wanted Azov's members but wanted the leadership purged. Others knew that the longer Mariupol and now Lysychansk held/hold out the longer until their assets are attacked elsewhere in Ukraine. From what I understand from researching into it, Ukraine is in a position sort of like the old Chinese Empires or in more recent memory Afghanistan right now where you have the leader (Zelensky), but you also have local warlords (oligarchs) who while they will listen to the head of state so long as their neck isn't on the line, they will quickly slit each other's throats if they suspect a chance to gain power or secure their assets from the Russians. Zelensky agreeing to retreating west of the Dnieper might actually help Russia in that sense since the oligarchs might revolt and serve Zelensky and Zaluzhnyi's heads on a platter with the surrender terms.
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>>35753 I mean they technically haven't. They took the downtown area because the Ukrainians retreated, and they have been taking the suburbs, but tactically it would be stupid to do more than shell the shit out of the Industrial sector where the Ukrainian military is conglomerating since it would put the Russians in direct line of sight of Ukrainian artillery (Lysychansk is at the top of a hill relative to Severodonetsk). I don't expect an official report of a Russian capture of Severodonetsk until Russian troops are approaching from the rear and/or Novodruzhesk falls to the North, and that could be weeks or months away.
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>>35754 >They probably should, but that would kill Zelensky's chances at reelection post-war. >Zelensky's chances at reelection post-war. Is this another Bidup situation with Hoholigarchs needing some neutered puppet ruler with no goals or agenda of his own lest the court engages in mutually assured destructive intrigue? If so then they're doing a great job at US-style democracy.
>>35737 Jezus, thats dire >they boasted of 700 000 men army >they ran out of men already >>35754 As far as I understand it was a plan for clearing a corridor wide enough for ships to travel through under military escort (in case of loose mines), the rest of the coast would be still mined (if they are mined now, ukraine is not exactly britain, doubt they have enough of them.)
>>35754 >local warlords (oligarchs) who while they will listen to the head of state so long as their neck isn't on the line, they will quickly slit each other's throats if they suspect a chance to gain power or secure their assets from the Russians. And that is why he should have thrown up his hands and told general XY to handle the military matters, and then tell the oligarchs to speak with said general and his hand-picked personal guard of disciplined killers if they have something to say. Then he could play leader in front of the cameras, while still being somehow open about the current situation, because if an oligarch is out of line he will have a meeting with a bunch of army personnel wearing balaclavas anyway.
>>35756 >Is this another Bidup situation with Hoholigarchs needing some neutered puppet ruler with no goals or agenda of his own lest the court engages in mutually assured destructive intrigue? It's a little more complicated since they've used the neutered puppet for power struggles when a particular oligarch steps out of line, that's how they removed the Russian-aligned ones after all, but pretty much.
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>Arestovich : >"...if Putin wins. And another 500,000 Ukrainian army will join the 1.5 million Russian army. Everyone saw how we can fight. And who then will be able to stop this united force, plus even Belarus? Thats why it should be in the west‘s interest to supply us with weapons so that he doesn’t win" Wait... What?
>>35760 Clearly he's been talking too much with Trudeau about "if they kill us we win" syndrome.
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>>35761 I guess they got autobalanced
>>35760 >If we lose, we'll end up faithfully fighting on behalf of our new masters! Please save us from our servile instincts! I mean, when you look at how the Chechens turned out I guess it makes sense.
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>>35760 >if you don't give us weapons we'll join the vatniks and become wepon to surpass metal gear blyat >west stops sending arms >hohoss collapse >west now has a smaller army to fight was this part of his master plan?
>>35763 How long before Ukrainians will jump on an opportunity to fight on Russians behalf like the Chechens? I reckon 5 years to stamp out any dissent in liberated areas and re-educate them, and another decade to completely break Ukrainian buck. There are some news about some 6000 Kherson inhabitants volunteers joining up to fight alongside Russian forces. >>35764 Can you belive people actually complained that they 'disarmed' Ukraine of 'their' nukes?
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>>35760 Whose side was he supposed to be on again?
>>35737 >>In Ukraine, the mobilization of women is being prepared for the purpose of "uninterrupted replenishment of the losses of personnel" I know that they probably don't mean it this way but it sounds like they are chaining their women up to be raped to have kids they can draft.
>>35768 "Seed tax/child tax" might honestly be a real thing in Ukraine after the war if they have really lost as many men as that statement implies. I have a feeling Ukrainian women are gonna be the cheap mail-order only slightly used brides once more five years from now.
>>35769 My idea would probably be better than what they are actually going to do since if they lost a significant portion of 700k men which they would have to to even consider drafting women in the first place there might not be any Ukrainians left in the world when this is all said and done.
>>35737 >>35760 I need a sources or a clip on these. I am only seeing telegram posts when I search them online.
>>35758 Makes sense. Otherwise I'm not sure how well that would've worked out in practice given that volunteer battalions, i.e. Azov, are/were independently controlled outside of Kiev's government. Like a shadow government in plain sight, not even hidden. Surely some of them could be bought off to be counter-balaclava wearers if Zelensky tried to be smart?
>>35723 I doubt it, the moment they officially turn back the clock is the moment the US goes from letting Biden paint muh red line to electing an actual bona fide warmonger and everyone loses. >>35726 One thing I like a lot about post Pax Americana wars is that everyone lost their fucking mind and we've got world powers using shitposts as weaponry. >>35735 Ideally someone would shoot (((Zelly))) before he does any more harm from the Hololbunker, but we all know that Ukies went full on endsieg as soon as Mariupol fell. Appeasement was the only option back then when they could at least agree on regional independence (which would have still made the countries switch sides to Russia but at least they could have been glowop'd for a while longer) and it will be the only option that doesn't send hundreds of thousands of young Ukrainians to their death for the foreseable future. Unless the West gets involved with more than hopes and prayers and secret special operations, Ukraine will be a landlocked rump state by the end of the year.
Does anyone have or know where I could locate a time lapse of the front lines? I've considered making one but it would be a lot of work and I'm sure some OSINT autist has already made an algorithm to do it automatically.
Oho, turns out there might be more to the story of the foreign mercenaries being sentenced to death than meets the eye. Moscow explicitly sent them to the DPR for sentencing because it forces the British government to interact with the Donetsk governmeny instead of Russia. This is equivalent to forcing London to recognize the DNR as a nation instead of as a terrorist/separatist region. I didn't think much of it when anon mentioned it, but now I'm realizing this is peak shitposting on Russia's part.
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/k/ can you tell the Ukrainias to not mess with star wars, Disney did enough damage already. t. /sw/
>>35777 >They didn't even use Thrawn's blue-tinted destroyer You can tell they nothing about the franchise too.
>>35777 i refuse to believe that's official
>>35779 It's not, as far as I know. That's an edit of the Rise of Skywalker poster from a few years ago.
>>35779 I pray it is official. I need in my life more soyboys crying over real life not being like their Disney movies. >>35776 I'm more curious as to what Russia will do when the UK does the obvious and doesn't negotiate for their mercenaries.
>>35782 It sounds like the UK is handling the DNR in secret/behind closed doors to save face. If those negotiations fall through I imagine London would rather let their own citizens die (even if by the thousands or tens of thousands hypothetically) than lose face by recognizing what they consider a rogue state.
>>35776 So Russia is deliberately handing British citizens to a terrorist group to be murdered? Sounds like a casus belli if I've ever seen one. Russia delenda est.
>>35784 DNR forces allegedly did the capturing in the first place.
>>35771 >I need a sources or a clip on these One of the telegram channels had video of him saying that when he's on some show or podcast or news interview. Was too big of a file to upload.
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SU-25 aka. Frogfoot that took manpad to the jet and still flew back to base.
>>35659 >Any odds of you having the walking animation? It's based on a 2009 /swf/ flash that spread around imageboards, forums and blogs. Originally from the ending of Hellsing Ultimate OVA 4.
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>>35760 >You will live to see Europe being taken over by Amerishart weapons held by Slavs
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So, assuming that /pol/ was right and that literally everything war-related is a jewish plan, what's the exact purpose of this war? They just wanted to kill off a good chunk of white men? They want to make money somehow? Maybe both at the same time?
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Goddamn. The air is extra spicy in Ukraine last few months.
>>35795 Jews might be profiting now off the war, but the Western response and Israel stepping in for diplomatic talks should have made it clear that Russia isn't doing what the Jews want right now. There is a very weak connection to Jews in that Trump limited American involvement in Syria and destroyed ISIS in Syria (more or less) with Assad and Russia's permission. This put a huge hold on the Turkey-Qatar pipeline along with a few pipelines benefitting Israel that pass through Syria because Assad told the roaches to fuck off. Since the Turkey-Qatar pipeline was off the table and Europe was not willing to let go of cheap Russian gas for expensive and volatile Middle Eastern gas, the psychological warfare against Russia was ramped up in order to force Putin into a situation where he would have to invade Ukraine (the British nuclear vessel incident trailing the Crimean coast towards the Sea of Azov, which for Russia was equivalent to the Cuban Missile Crisis and subsequent refusal by America and the UK to negotiate security guarantees with Russia). Most of these events happened without intent but rather by applying the status quo. I don't think it was at the behest of the Jews so much as at the behest of the eternal Anglo. Even then I think it was stupid politicians unintentionally applying 1990s diplomacy to a 2020 Russia thinking the bear would just whine about being poked instead of fighting back. >>35796 Soviets prided themselves on their rocket and artillery technology, even scouting out Western talents who were told by Western countries that artillery was dead. Makes sense that the tradition would continue with the Russians (who also pride themselves on aeronautic technologies).
>>35796 >for 30 years the west has been preparing for a Star Trek future >Russia has been preparing for a 40k one
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So I think after reviewing everything this weekend, it looks like Ukrainians may make progress towards Kherson by virtue of the Russians only having one BTG for every 20km of land in conjunction with the Ukrainians not giving up despite extreme casualties in the region (I've heard estimates ranging from 100 to 500 Ukrainian casualties per day from each front in Kherson, of which there are currently four or five). It looks like the Russians are going to give the Ukrainians a little bit of the Eastern half of the Siversky Donets river because with their troop lines they can repel them fairly easily, but by letting the Ukrainians disperse themselves in hostile but tactically irrelevant territory, the Russians have less troops to worry about on the front lines. I think this is a mistake but the Russians are probably guessing the Ukrainians won't be able to cut off the major artery along T2108 highway. In exchange for that territory the Russians are continuing to close out the Luhansk front. So as long as the artery doesn't close up along T2108, Stary Saltiv is irrelevant to the overall war. Russians need to find a bridgehead somewhere on the Southern Siversk Donets river if they want to make any real progress in closing off the Luhansk front unless they plan on launching an offensive operation all the way from Popasna to Siversk.
>>35796 >50000 artillery shells a day That's almost 2 artillery shells every second of every day if I did my math right. How has ukraine not been glassed by now?
>>35800 The front is around 2000 kilometers I think, so it's somewhat spread out, with some places absolutely Verdun tier and some places untouched. Artillery is main killer in war though, I wouldn't be surprised that Ukrainian casualties are much bigger than 1000 total with around 100-200 KIA a day, that some Ukrainian sources say. Plus the math is off, it's around 0.57 shells per second, given that day has 86400 seconds.
>>35800 Then again, Ukrainian claims couls be exaggerated to raise western support, but Russians have been known to throw prodigal amounts of ordnance at the problem until it goes away.Grozny for most famous example
>>35801 >.57 shells a second That can't be right. That would mean double the current fire rate it would be 1.14 seconds with 1 a second being 86400 a day so 50k a day shouldn't be less than a second.
>>35800 I thought it was ridiculous numbers at first, but it comes out to about 130 artillery pieces firing every 10 minutes so I accepted it after considering Russian artillery autism.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mlzXCa2xP8o Based on what Military Summary and DPA are saying about Russian advances, I suspect that the "volunteer forces" from Syria/Africa and volunteer forces from among the official Russia army are beginning to mobilize. If so, this may be enough reinforcements for the Russians to not have to do a general mobilization/conscription to push forward absolutely. It means a slower war (a slower war benefits Russia so long as the timeframe doesn't extend into years), but less surprises.
>>35803 Lol, never mind, I'm retarded. My phone calculator shows . as , so I thought on preliminary tying it said 1,700 ish which I though was too high, never realising decimal so i went the other way. Other than that I have no excuse for my retardation. I'll go die of shame now
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>>35799 Russia has entered another cycle of sieging so it's going to be slow goings for the next few weeks. DPA's map puts Russia in direct control of the Lysychansk-Bakhmut highway cutting off a vital supply route for Sev-Lys cauldron. It's going to be another Mariupol, slow advancement in while starving them out. Although the already low morale may speed things up a bit. If Ukraine does cross the Siversky-Donets I doubt they'll be able to sustain it in any meaningful manner. Ukraine failed in Kherson where they had far more, I don't see how they can manage a counter attack outside of an urban environment. >unless they plan on launching an offensive operation all the way from Popasna to Siversk. Well Russia may already have some troops that are half way there so it's not entirely unfeasible.
>>35805 Don't the Syrians still have hostile enclaves in their country? If they have the extra manpower to send troops to Ukraine you'd think they could at least close the fronts in Southern Syria.
>>35807 >Although the already low morale may speed things up a bit. IIRC Severodonetsk is pissy after Russians flatly denied their request to retreat alongside the civilians. Allegedly 500 civilians in the Severodonetsk industrial zone being held hostage by Ukrainian forces. >>35808 Syria was (relatively) stable before this Ukrainian war began and Turkey was encouraged to pressure them, but I don't think they were expecting Kurdish opposition. ISIS consists of one city and two larger towns when I checked last. Ultimately stability in Ukraine will work more to Syria's favor than driving out the Turks.
While looking at Patrick Lancaster's channel I noticed he translated "they speak a foreign language" as "they are deaf and dumb." I just wanted to point out that "deaf and dumb" was the term for people who couldn't speak your language for several centuries, and that for Russians they don't literally mean "deaf and dumb" but rather "we don't understand them." Usually in reference to German-speaking and now Ukrainian-speaking communities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQuxXKoaMQI
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This statement sums up the war, honestly. Directly from Ukrainian mouths.
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>>35745 >Acquiring the entire Donbass will actually expand their front line significantly >A straight line is longer than a curve No. When troops from North and South meet they shorten the front line.
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Last bridge in Severodonetsk blown up. Eduard Basurin says Ukrainian military remaining in the industrial part of the city have only options surrender or die, anyone retreating will be killed by arty.
>>35818 You are mixing up Luhansk with the Donbass total region.
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>>35791 Horry sheet senpai, I bet Ivan needed some fresh undies when he got back :O >>35792 he cute >>35749 Yeah, they are beyond fucked if it's come to that. >might encourage the Chechens Pepper your angus if/when those fuckers show up.
>>35795 >literally everything war-related is a jewish plan. It's not, Oligarchs in Russia, many of them Jewish, are seeing a ton of money and influence being lost. Western businessmen are greatly profiting off this war however.
>>35827 Are you saying that there's still hope? The kikes aren't controlling 100% of the planet yet? We can still make our own choices?
>>35829 The kikes have never controlled everything. Not even a majority. Most of the world has no qualms naming the Jew. Jews just have their hands in most anything America is doing, and to a lesser extent Europe (both West and East).
>>35820 Still, Donbass is hilly, full of forests, and is cut in half by severodonetsk river. Basically when it falls there is no good place fpr ukrainians to bunker up and we will see much more fluid frontlines. Kinda like current Kherson. Russians will be able to use their superior mobility to move troops to wherever ukrainians push and will be able to basically encircle them at will. >>35819 >be ukr in severodonetsk >want to escape >you need to: >swim through the river russians can shell at will >escape from lysichansk, that is also shelled >move to the outskirts of lysichansk which are shelled to shit by the russians >move through road of death your supplies are supposed to pass through which in reality is shelled to shit >finally, you arrive in Siviersk >which is besieged and shelled to shit
Of all the relevant western EUropean countries, who'd be the one most likely to stab NATO in the back in exchange for grain and fuel this winter?
>>35832 germany.
>>35833 It's always the germs, isn't it?
>>35833 How? Modern G*rms are programmed from birth to be docile to American interests at all times, why'd they suddenly do the reasonable thing and ally with Russia to reclaim Danzig? t. kraut
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The Swedes have conceded to Muslim demands.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWXJmzWTTFs Belarussian man was saying something about Zaluzhny ordering the complete retreat form Sverodonetsk after discovering there were about 200 foreign mercenaries stationed there. He allegedly ordered the complete destruction of any and all military equipment on the way out, suggesting he either doesn't expect to every regain the territory, expects the troops stationed there to turncoat, or expects the Russians to utilize it against them (or some combination of those three). Forgot who I watched the video earlier today, but either DPA or Military summary mentioned that the Ukrainian MOD officially declared that the Russians have 10 times more artillery than them in a press statement, which is obviously having mixed reactions. They announced it to get more, but now Europeans and Americans are debating if it's worth it to send equipment that's gonna get blasted before it's used. Rumor has it the 200 mercenaries are a mixture of Poles, Canadians, and Brits. Turns out Russia let the DNR snag the PoWs the way they did intentionally. Ukraine and the Western community refuse to acknowledge that the DNR exists, therefore it is "impossible" for them to communicate for the release of prisoners of war because they have to negotiate with the DNR/LNR instead of Russia. Since the DNR/LNR either don't exist or are a terrorist organization, they can't open formal negotiations. Since Ukraine refuses to acknowledge the existence of the DNR/LNR and insists they are Russian forces, they are refusing to negotiate for PoWs which is why there is a military tribunal to discuss how to deal with prisoners of war in Donetsk. Long story short, one or two mercenaries are one thing, but 200 foreign mercenaries/volunteers getting the death sentence is the kind of thing countries declare war over. Russia is making it clear they're gonna give all mercenaries the death sentence unless their home countries acknowledge the DNR/LNR's existence.
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>>35831 Don't forget Lysychansk is 200 meters taller than Sverodonetsk on average while Svirksk is 200 meters lower than Lysychansk. So not only are you completely visible to the Russians on your tail, but you are also completely visible to the Ukrainian barrier forces telling you to die for Britain/America.
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>>35832 Technically Hungary is refusing to fuck around and never stopped accepting grain/fuel from Russia despite being in NATO, and Slovakia has said they're not going to treat Russia like an enemy state if they don't get relief for the stuff they're already going along with right now. Actual betrayal rather than non-compliance though? Germany hands-down. Turkey's royally pissing off the Russians over Syria as NATO's lapdog so it's unlikely that they will doing their normal two-timing agenda.
>>35837 >Modern G*rms are programmed from birth to be docile to American interests at all times You have it reversed.
>A official statement from Wagner group: After tonight's shelling of Donetsk (civilians), nothing will be the same for the Ukrainian Army. Hell awaits them in Donbass. RIP Ukrainian PoW's caught by the Wagner PMC.
>>35849 Sounds more like they're saying that Donetsk courts are going to sentence Ukrainian prisoners of war to death if they aren't conscripts who can reasonably prove they were just following orders. War crimes would be nice too. I just hope they don't commit war crimes against the conscripts who didn't have much choice.
>>35850 I can see how the statement is vague enough to be read as a guaranteed death sentence in a DPR court. I still feel Wagner means they're going to war crime Ukrainian soldiers like how Wagner war crimed ISIS in Syria.
Allegedly Ukrainian commando units have been sabotaging military operations on the Russian side of the border near Belgorod, so now the Russians are considering re-establishing a buffer zone instead of remaining on the Russian side of the border.
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>>35861 He can't keep getting away with it!
>>35832 I think that the only two countries who are 100% in favor of NATO's actions are France and Britain, and the latter is not in the EU. The unelected European government is trying their hardest in convincing European nations that cutting their future growth in half to save a bunch of wheat fields is worth it and most are not buying it or pretending to but really just making deals with tirtiary nations. >>35842 SWEDEN YES! >>35843 >Turns out Russia let the DNR snag the PoWs the way they did intentionally In hindsight, that much should have been obvious
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Allegedly video of large Ukrainian arsenal going out with a bang after Russian strike.
I'm seeing a lot of drones being shut down by missiles lately. Do you really need a big expensive missile to shoot down a ~mostly~ static drone? Can't you use an anti material rifle, a sniper or a DMR?
>>35867 No, you can do the same in most cases with a shitty soviet flak gun from the ww2 and a infrared camera or something. Its just that the people doing the shotdowns only have these huge fuckoff missiles for deleting planes at hand.
>>35867 Deleting drones implies having not just the technology (something nobody has concerned themselves with for decades), but also the supply or the infrastructure to build a supply. In most cases drone interception is more expensive than the drone or loitering munition itself. Plus they are too high up in the air/small to shoot consistently. It seems slow because of how far away it is, but it's moving at the speed of a car/lighter airplane.
So after Severodonetsk will Russia press on or will there be a new de facto border drawn?
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>>35871 russians seemed to focused on the Azot plant as that's where a good bulk of the ukies are located in Severodonetsk.
>>35871 I am sure russians will not attack Lysichansk from Severodonetsk direction, but will use it as a base for shelling later on. Commieblocks are ferrocrete bunkers in a way, and even while being on lower ground and so on Severodonetsk is still one of the safest places in a large radius. Honestly they dont even need to close the cauldron as it will prevent supplies from running at all to ukrainians... which means they couldnt shell priceless ukrainian trucks. I think focus will switch to Siviersk now and shenanigans around Izium. Also Kherson, I have seen many conflicting reports around there.
>>35867 >>35869 Air to air fighter drones appearing sounds like a natural progression, it happened in WWI with manned aircraft after all. Maybe a purpose built "anti-drone suicide drone" would work better than the anti-personnel versions seem to.
>Residents of Berdyansk, the new authorities wrote off all debts on utility bills for water in the amount of 27,000,000 hryvnia. >it is also expected to write off debts and loans in Ukrainian banks, as previously stated by representatives of the CAA of Zaporozhye region. >get invaded by Russia >no fag flags and fag walks >banks stop jewing me >write off my debt >cheap fuel >win eurovision Sign me the fuck up
>>35878 >>win eurovision >Sign me the fuck up <eurovision YOUHADONEJOB
>>35876 I think we'd first see changes to stuff like the 2S6 to be able to target drones well. The number of cannons could be cut if it is intended for drones and then you could replace a missile pod with smaller, lower performance missiles to be cheaper for those low performance aircraft.
>>35871 Why would they take Sverodonetsk without taking Lysychansk? The Luhansk front will be "over" with the capture of everything East of Siversk. The LNR will be secured, but the Ukrainians are doubling and tripling down. There's some rumors than the Ukrainians are using the new Western-provided artillery to commit acts of terror/war crimes against civilian targets. There were reports that the Ukrainians shelled Donetsk with more artillery strikes a couple evenings ago than the city of Donetsk has been hit with since WWII. The LNR has already agreed to assist in liberating the DNR. As can be seen in the pictures from DPA's monitoring, the Ukrainians doubling down on their fortified positions near Donetsk. They are building new trenches along a new temporary front line at T-13-02 based on his trench mapping which has been fairly accurate up until now, but based on some activity further West I think this is just going to be a buffer to give the Ukrainians time to re-group. Here is the part of the war where things are going to get interesting, and here's why... >Spring is over and the rivers are no longer torrential (they are crossable with semi-amphibious equipment for both sides) >The longer the Russians take to close down Sverodonetsk, the more trenches Ukraine can dig (the basic front line trench takes something like three days per half kilometer to really establish a good foothold from what I've been told) >If Ukrainians don't retreat enough they will receive massive casualties in the Donbass theater because the Russians can redirect the troops from the shortened front line to the Donetsk area >If the Ukrainians retreat too far they will lose the advantage of spreading the Russians thin >Russians are kind of at the "current limits" of what a force of their size can handle without some major victories to shorten the front lines >Ukrainians are at a numerical advantage when it comes to warm bodies (roughly 4-5 Ukrainians per Russian) dedicated to the war >Ukrainians have the logistical advantage the further West Russia pushes >Ukrainians will be able to open up a front "virtually anywhere" where the river is a line on Jewgle maps instead of a bulge up until September or October >Obviously Russia can too, but they have to dedicate more troops to the war to do so >Donetsk is just too heavily entrenched to break through and create a buffer between Ukrainian soldiers and DNR civilians they want to rape/murder without massive casualties or a long, long battle (going into 2023 maybe even 2024) >Ukraine and Russia are both running out of blood, but only Russia can hold blood drives (blood logistics are the kind of difference between a 10% death rate and 60% death rate among wounded casualties) Obviously I pulled that number out of my ass I think it's actually even more severe if I recall what an EMT once told me. >While the Russians want Odessa, there is no way to get there without establishing a proper bridgehead West of the river >There is no reasonable way to get Russian troops to Odessa since the Ukrainians will blow up the bridges at Mykolaiv if Russia tries >Mykolaiv is basically a giant killing field if you want to station your soldiers on open rural farmland with gentle slopes and no cover and try to hold it >Russia can either play the game and lose a shit ton of troops or sulk and postpone the invasion of Odessa for several months >Russia can't reasonably open a new front to the North for more than distraction purposes without calling in more reinforcements Russia has long-term logistical advantage, but they have a shortage of warm bodies as of now that can no longer be ignored. In order to make progress in Donbass, Russia either needs the Ukrainians to retreat to the shortest possible front line in order to free up the resources to take Kharkiv once and for all in order to form the necessary pincers to make up for the lack of men, or order general mobilization. Russia is running blood drives suggesting the order for General Mobilization may come in mid or late July. That's going to change the nature of the beast since the Russians will have more men (and more cell phone footage of the war for us to enjoy), but their casualties will be scrutinized more back home which could sour the Kremlin propaganda war they are waging both to maintain civilian morale and their economy (Russia IS a federation still and Putin's power is not absolute within the federation even if he is a cult of personality). >>35873 Azot plant allegedly contains 600 "foreign volunteers." Only 200 of them are actual bonafide mercs with the other 400 being something along the lines of a mix of logistics and the like. Russia is driving a wedge by insisting that they will provide humanitarian corridors for surrender under the Geneva convention- they are just intentionally leaving out the part where the Geneva Convention says that mercenaries pretty much have no rights. I dunno, man. Russia is saying that the LNR/DNR are willing to work through official diplomatic channels to maybe free the mercenaries that didn't commit horrific war crimes or in prisoner exchanges with the Ukrainians, but doing so undermines the entire war effort since Ukraine has insisted that they can not and won't exist in negotiations and will not do prisoner exchanges with the DNR/LNR. Poland? Yeah they hate Russians enough that they won't care if a couple hundred Poles get murderhobo'd in a kangaroo court since they'll pass it off as an atrocity to raise sentiment for more volunteers. The UK or Canada though? Ehhh, that's when things get tricky. Would the UK be willing to declare war against Russia over the deaths of tens or hundreds of Brits? Probably knowing how London is reactionary and throws a temper tantrum whenever they don't get their way. Otherwise the only option would be to back down in exchange for prisoner releases to stab the Russians in the back anyways right afterwards and the Brits are tend to do with anything related to Russia.
>>35875 >I think focus will switch to Siviersk now and shenanigans around Izium I'm thinking the same. Azot is surrounded and will get bombed to high hell and back like Azovstal (allegedly they even have the underground bunkers) with the only major difference being the Ukrainian retreat was a success (or the Russians killed an exorbitant number of Ukrainian soldiers) since the Azot industrial plant is supposed to contain 5k+ troops with another 10k in Lysychansk, but private/sensitive documents got out (I think that's what they said when I was listening earlier but take that with a pinch of salt) that there are actually only about 1500-2500 troops left in the Azot bunkers after that chemical explosion. Ukrainians asked the Russians to let them retreat with the civilians to which Russia replied (paraphrasing) "look brah you blew up the bridges, there's nowhere for you to go but towards us unless you want to swim, so just surrender." Humanitarian corridors are supposed to be open the next couple days to allow civilians to leave into Russian-held territory with an agreement with Ukraine to let them cross back into Ukrainian territory (if they wish) at a different location. Soldiers can surrender at that time going through the proper methods as well (white flag of surrender, unarmed, etc.). It will be interesting to see what happens since there was allegedly a coup at Sverodonetsk but there were rumors that maybe the chemical explosion was Ukraine killing their own for deserting. Seems like a bunch of bullshit to me but I know there were videos of Ukrainian soldiers saying they would surrender in that region if Ukraine didn't reinforce them so we'll see. I'm curious if Hirske or Azot will fall first if Ukies choose to hold at Hirske as well. From what I'm being told the entire Lysychansk front is being bungled to high hell and back while the Russians have a new general on the Popasna front that is bullish, working his men like dogs, and encircling the Ukrainians to starve out a group of about 30k believed to be located in that general region. That could also have a major impact on the future of the war if he is successful or if he is too bullish and costs the Russians some serious casualties. >I think focus will switch to Siviersk now and shenanigans around Izium. Agreed. Those seem to be the spots where they have some leeway to maneuver right now. >Also Kherson, I have seen many conflicting reports around there. Kherson isn't looking good for the Russians. They're outgunned because of Western supplies, outnumbered, logistics are stretched thin on that front, and there just aren't reasonably enough forces to hold the front line if Ukraine keeps up these Chinese-tier human wave tactics in the region. It might ultimately be a Pyrrhic victory that costs the Ukrainians their entire coast, but in exchange it would be a big morale hit to the Russians significantly slowing them down/driving a wedge in their offensive strategy, and giving the Ukrainians more time to dig trenches along the new suspected front lines in the East. So far the Russians have played a good offense, but their defense has been so-so at best mostly consisting of tactical retreats and no real confrontation outside of Kherson where they have been ordered to hold a killing field buffer between them and the Ukrainians. >>35876 I, for one, look forward to the day we have flying unmanned shrapnel cannons blowing up suicide bombers all thousands of feet in the air where soldiers have no clue what is going on.
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Berdyansk Port ready to reopen according to authorities https://archive.ph/nxOPq >The Berdyansk Port will be ready to resume grain shipments, and wheat deliveries to Turkey are possible, head of the interim administration of Berdyansk and the Berdyansk district Alexander Saulenko said. >"We have the prospects of signing contracts with Turkey," Saulenko told Russian and foreign journalists. >The grain gathered in the Berdyansk district is ready for sale, he said. >"It's 100% that the grain will be sent from here [through the port]. There is quite a lot of grain in the district. Since we will soon have a new harvest and need to free up the warehouses, something needs to be done with the existing grain. Farmers also need to sell it in order to earn money," Saulenko said. >The infrastructure of the Berdyansk Port has been restored, and the port is ready to resume operations, he said. >"One needs to understand that the crane facilities, infrastructure and the majority of the port's piers have already been restored. The harbor pilot services and the services that organize the reception of vessels and the dispatch of cargoes are also ready. It is possible to say that the port is already up and running," Saulenko said. Man, I get it. Turkey is dealing with hyperinflation in food prices and the profits are mostly going to Ukrainian businessmen and to reestablishing the town, but if I was a pro-Zelensky Nationalist Ukrainian I would be PISSED about the fact that I'm fucking starving/living in squalor while the food that was supposed to be for the war effort is getting sold to Turks who engage in arms trade with the Russians. >inb4 Ukrainians bomb it with sabotage groups out of spite Pics semi unrelated I was looking for a picture of the new ports and found this instead. >>35878 Cheap food too. And job opportunities. Man I think I'm turning a little green with envy for the entrepreneurs who are gonna get in on this after the war assuming no WWIII still.
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>Ukrainians clearly and intentionally targeted civilians with cluster munitions in Donetsk F, Patrick. He's gonna get suicided by six shots to the back of the head if he ever steps foot in a Western country again. Rumble: https://rumble.com/v18goky-cluster-bomb-attack-seriously-injured-12-year-old-boy-in-donetsk.html Jewtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olTwZbfzdPk I like how he always gets people who've just become sassy or indifferent to living in a war zone.
>>35884 Do the Ukies expect to take over Donetsk? Also how do demographics factor into this, even if it's just future projections? >Russia is running blood drives suggesting the order for General Mobilization may come in mid or late July. That's going to change the nature of the beast since the Russians will have more men (and more cell phone footage of the war for us to enjoy), but their casualties will be scrutinized more back home which could sour the Kremlin propaganda war they are waging both to maintain civilian morale and their economy (Russia IS a federation still and Putin's power is not absolute within the federation even if he is a cult of personality). Solidly put. It would also allow Natto to escalate their response accordingly, probably by forcing their countries and allies to completely cut off Russia from the world system and punishing those who defy the order like Hungary. >Would the UK be willing to declare war against Russia over the deaths of tens or hundreds of Brits? Absolutely so long as it maintains a balance of power in Europe, is so far away that even bombing it becomes an issue and they can send EU cattle to their death in their stead.
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>>35886 >Cheap food too. And job opportunities. Man I think I'm turning a little green with envy for the entrepreneurs who are gonna get in on this after the war assuming no WWIII still. That's the Broken Window Fallacy, doe. You'll still be profiteering mind you, but the region as a whole will take a loss in wealth that will take years to recoup, plus your wages will have to be spent elsewhere if you want to make the most of it.
>>35889 >Broken Window >Fallacy You're not some kind of kike or anything are you anon?
>>35889 Hey that's ok with me. I don't care about how much of a profit I make so long as I can turn that profit into an i vestment down the line. It is the broken window fallacy, but if all the glass-makers are gone anyways then at least I can make a living using their tools they left behind instead of letting them rust away.
>>35884 I doubt russians will order mobilization. At worst they will officially declare war and send there standing troops and current conscripts. They dont need to mobilize.
>>35890 Breathtaking picture >You're not some kind of kike or anything are you anon? It's the exact opposite, you may profit off of war and destruction, but the net effect will be that there's less to spend it on in the long run.
1 Shestakove village, Kharkiv region. (if they are taking down the Ukie emblem I am going to assume it's russan controlled) 2) outskirts of (Bakhmut) Artemovsk 3 destroyed T-64 5 military summons to a ukie civilian
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A fresh satellite image from 06/13/2022 shows significant progress in building up the group of troops on Zmeiny and its fortification. Blue circles - Air defense systems, APCs and other vehicles Yellow circles - fortifications, trenches
>>35892 >I doubt russians will order mobilization. At worst they will officially declare war and send there standing troops and current conscripts. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in a country where conscription is mandatory if you don't go to university, isn't that a general mobilization?
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>>35895 Now that is peak shitposting. I didn't think the Russians would bother since you need that much air power to maintain control of a small island with no natural defenses, but I guess they decided the risk of Odessa being used as a ship corridor for supplies convinced them to quintuple down as a big "fuck you."
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>>35898 Speaking of Russian shitposting: >Russians are temporarily disabling their own vehicles to attract Instagram and Twitter soldiers into taking photos and videos for Social Media clout. >And then they walk up to take photos and videos, the Russian tank crews and its infantry support ambushes the Ukrainian Instawarriors who's guard is down, with their phones out, taking photos and videos. >You can imagine how that ends for the Ukrainians. >They repair the minor damage to the tank and get moving along. >This tank has light self sabotage that can be easily fixed on the field.
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Review of today's information: >Ukrainians are pushing heavy on the Izium front after realizing how dire their straits are near Luhansk >Ukrainians made a bridgehead in Dovhenke >Dovhenke has forests to the South and East under Ukrainian control so it will be an uphill battle for the Russians to take it back >Ukrainian MOD was so tight-lipped about declaring their Southern Kharkiv fronts that it was only now revealed that the Russians weren't actually in control of game-changing territory near Balakliya >Russia telegram is ablaze that Semigorye/Semyhirja is under Russian control >Pro-Russian sources are skeptical since that would mean the Russians broke through the second largest entrenchment after Donetsk >Ukrainians kicked Wagner out of Klynove (East of Bahkmut) and are now getting shelled >Roti/Rota is under Russian control though (also East of Bahkmut) >After back and forth for the last week, Ivanovka/Ivanivka is confirmed to be under Russian control (near Kherson) >Ukrainian troops are believed to have been repurposed to other fronts along Kherson or to be digging in trenches near the power plant Russia is pushing towards >Northern Kherson front is extremely quiet right now from both sides >McDicks has officially reopened in Russia as Вкусно – и точка (Vkusno & Tochka) which means "tasty and that's it." >Govor (the owner) said he paid "far lower than market price" for the restaurants. >Govor has been a McDonald's franchisee since 2015, when he agreed to open 20 restaurants through his business GiD LLC. Their website can be found here: https://skoro-tut-budut-burgers.ru/ Business Insider piece about the new owner Mcdicks sold the franchise to and how he's a beef and oil oligarch: https://archive.ph/GgEAR >Russia has captured the territory along the river West of Azot industrial plant in Sverodonetsk after Ukraine insisted they didn't need to use Russian routes for humanitarian corridors since they owned the territory >Russia is suggesting they will allow humanitarian corridors along said road they captured the same as through any other Russian-claimed territory >This puts the Ukrainian MOD between a rock and hard place since they can't sneak mercenaries out through Russian channels >This would normally be suicidal as it is an open killing field for Ukrainian artillery to strike from the high ground suggesting Ukraine has pulled back their artillery from Lysychansk (a very big mistake if true) >Otherwise expect a lot of Russian casualties along the road to Proletarskyy Bridge >Sirotino/Sirotini bridge to the South is still safe for infantry to pass through, just not heavy equipment >This explains why the Ukrainian MOD gave the order to "destroy all equipment" before retreating last week I've still got about an hour of content to listen to in the background to catch up since a lot of shit is happening all at once, but that's the gist of it.
>>35912 Where have the Ukrainians sent the MLRS systems that Bidet sent?
>>35913 IIRC they won't be done with the first batch of training on them until next week and they won't be "mostly" done with training until early July. Rumor has it there may be a few being used to shell civilians in Donetsk though.
>>35912 I didn't know you could buy a beer in McDonald's Russia, good to know as a burger, I know some countries in south America you could get cheap red wine but no beer.
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Yesterday one of them was detained in Odessa. According to the investigation, the suspect, together with an accomplice, promised two young people for a reward in the amount of $4,300 to issue forged documents about their unfitness for military service and organize grounds for traveling abroad. Now, under the new legislation, the wanna-be fraudster and his victims face imprisonment for a term of seven to nine years.
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>>35916 the american embassy McDonald's I went to in France had Heineken available
>>35915 >Rumor has it there may be a few being used to shell civilians in Donetsk though. Few m777 you mean. Which is true since they were shelled in places with 155mm ammunition (you can see by the spread of the hole) >>35922 >1 from that distance hardly anything wouldnt get rekt.
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>ANOTHER wave of Ukie Su-25s getting shot down this week How many Su-25s do the Ukrainians have? I'd think they'd be running out of trained pilots even if they have aircraft to spare.
>>35922 I can't believe half-life 2 manhacks are going to become a reality in my lifetime. Of course things are starting to look like civil protection will be a real thing to.
>>35912 >tasty and that's it Isn't it "It's Tasty, Period"? That's why they have the period in the logo.
>>35908 >russians are niggers that openly commit perfidy
>>35932 That doesn't count as perfidy any more than putting a mannequin head on a broom handle to draw sniper fire in order to figure out where the sniper is would count as perfidy. It's also solvable by simply instilling the bare minimum of discipline in your soldiers to stay off their fucking cellphones in the middle of a damn active warzone.
>>35933 He might be unironically a bot, dont mind him.
>>35919 >Make fake IDs to prevent people from joining a worthless war >Get sent to prison instead of a penal unit Stalin was right >>35930 >The "pick up that can" line was a prelude to increased Stasi surveillance of the environment
>>35931 That is the literal translation, but it just doesn't work in English without explaining that in this context period means that's it.
>>35931 I wouldn't eat in a joint called "tasty period".
>>35931 >>35936 Maybe "It's Tasty, Full Stop"? Translating it as "and that's it" gives the impression that it's only tasty, as in things like how nutrition, healthy, and actual quality are irrelevant. Fast food is bad enough without giving that impression. But I guess the implication in Russian is instead that it being tasty is an absolute fact.
>>35939 I got more of the impression of "tasty, no bullshit attached." As someone who speaks a little Russian, the language is intentionally vague to give all three meanings. Most Russian cultural phrases have at least two or three meanings.
>>35941 Aside from the meaning, does it sound any more like a proper brand name in Russian? To my purely-anglophone sensibilities it sounds more like a brand's motto or tagline than the actual name. Like it's more analogous to "I'm lovin' it" than "McDonalds".
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Umm...vatnikbros... I don't feel so well...
>>35943 Okay what are you sperging about this time?
>>35944 I think he's saying Ukraine is about to take back Kherson.
>>35937 I don't think Russians use the same word for the punctuation mark and the monthly woman moment.
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*scratches record* *freezes frame* "So you're probably wondering how we got into this situation"
>>35942 >Aside from the meaning, does it sound any more like a proper brand name in Russian? For the fast food industry, yeah. Some professional industries will go with neutral names or use the name of the owner/owners, but in the food industry it's common enough to see a business name that either conveys what the business believes in (without being specific to any one time period) or what the business sells (places named after their main dish they serve).
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In addition to the fact that the Ukrainian authorities are frantically trying to mobilize draft citizens in all corners of the country, now they have extended their hands even to refugees outside Ukraine. Judging by the letter from Defence Minister Reznikov, the male population will soon not be able to sit out in hospitable Europe, as they need to do their civic duty for their homeland and fulfil the order to "fight to the last Ukrainian".
. 1) Azot plant 2) Ukies destroyed by arty 3) sumy Oblast 4) recon zolote 5) The authorities of the DPR and the Moscow region signed a memorandum of cooperation at the SPIEF. The Moscow region will help restore the infrastructure of the Novoazovsky and Telmanovsky districts of the republic
>>35949 Will Ukrop/NATO MPs roam the streets of Germany and Poland looking for young Hohol girls to mobilize?
>>35949 >fight to the last ukrainian Was this war just an excuse to wipe out ukraine? Fighting to the last man in a war you can't win only ensures your countries death.
>>35953 >Was this war just an excuse to wipe out ukraine? Hunter Bidup will likely win any court case involving his funny Ukraine business brought against him by a future Republicuck admin if the big guys get rid of all the witnesses while they still have the means to do so.
>>35953 Everyone says they'll fight to the death 'till the barrel is pointed at their face and they're told to start suckin'. Based on what I've seen from the soldiers told to fight to the death you're gonna have a pro-Russian faction of Ukrainians fighting in Kiev against the current government by next year if this war doesn't end soon.
>>35947 Will the eternal commie send them to his pet terrorists to murder like the anglos? If so, WW3 time, better go /innabunker/.
>>35958 playing peacekeeper on foreign soil is only fun until the locals start handing out death sentence, I'm afraid
>>35958 Unlike the Brits who would rather suicide by 1000 dicks to the ass, America has been known to negotiate with foreign groups they don't like if it gets Americans back home. That being said this is Biden and he's managed to fuck up literally every single thing his handlers have had him touch to the point where his approval is lower in aggregate on a regular day than Trump after 1/6 so I'm not holding my breath.
>>35949 To the minister of foreign affairs of Ukraine Dmitry Kuleba Dear minister of foreign affairs of Ukraine, According to the decree of the president of Ukraine, Volodymyr Zelensky, from May 17, 2022 m "341/2022". On the extension of the term of validity of the military contract conditions in Ukraine, " and in connection with large-scale armed aggression of the Russian Federation, as of June 8, 2022 in the Armed Forces There is an acute shortage of Ukraine and other components of the Defense Forces mobilization of resources. Since February 24 2022 according to the state border service, more than 7 million people left the territory of Ukraine, and therefore territorial recruitment and social support centers in cooperation with local executive authorities are not able to provide military service conscription with the maximum coverage of those liable for military service | for staffing of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other forces in their composition. In the current situation, to solve the problem with staffing formations and military units, it is advisable to organize a set of measures for return of citizens of Ukraine liable for military service from abroad in case of active involvement of representatives of the diplomatic community in this process Corps of Ukraine. Sincerely Yours, Minister of defense of Ukraine Oleksiy Reznikov In the document Sedo Ministry of defense of Ukraine
>>35961 >There is an acute shortage of Ukraine Yeah, they're about 20% short of a complete one last I heard. >in case of active involvement of representatives of the diplomatic community in this process Surely the hohols don't actually expect that Western normalfags, after all the press about welcoming Ukrainian refugees, are going to accept the idea of their governments deporting them all back to a warzone? The limits of how far I believe doublethink can go are always being stretched, but I can't picture it going that far.
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>>35947 *plot thickening intensifies*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS2J5oLvXj8 >Ukrainian MOD is claiming 330k Russian troops are deployed I'm calling bullshit. Russia would have steamrolled the entire eastern front if they were implying 330k troops against the official numbers of Ukrainians present along the front lines. The Ukrainian MOD is claiming Russia is matching their troop counts 1:1 when it's closer to 1:2 or 1:3 for Russian to Ukrainian ratios. At best it's possible the Russians have maybe rotated that many troops through Ukraine, but that is certainly not the numbers present in the country or else the Russians would have steamrolled the entire Eastern front by now.
I'm surprised Patrick Lancaster doesn't get more coverage when he's talking with the civilians of Donbass and showing their struggles. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJi6uF8HnIo
>>35965 Obvious bullshit is obvious, hohols have a pattern of --lying out of their asses-- inflating figures by 5-10x, information warfare you know, so we can reasonably infer a figure of 30-60k which sounds much more plausible.
>>35967 The real figure is around 130k. As most sources have been espousing for months now.
>>35962 >Yeah, they're about 20% short of a complete one last I heard. kek >Surely the hohols don't actually expect that Western normalfags, after all the press about welcoming Ukrainian refugees, are going to accept the idea of their governments deporting them all back to a warzone? The limits of how far I believe doublethink can go are always being stretched, but I can't picture it going that far. It's Operation Mincemeat all over again except now it's not Britain playing the part of the villain for once >>35963 Stalker development team
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>Yesterday Ukraine seizes a fuckton of Belarussian oil assets located along the border after Lukashenko was bragging about having a 25 year supply in reserves >Today Lukashenko declares he WILL missile strike Kiev if they so much as touch the town of Mazyr/Mozyr on the Ukrainian-Belarusian border (a giant oil refinery) >Western sources crying that Lukashenko is "threatening to bomb Kiev over baseless fears" Are they for fucking real right now?
>>35970 This whole conflict showed how incompetent and childish politicians are really. It's kinda scary and concerning that people in positions of power have an outlook of dramatic schoolgirls.
>>35971 >kinda scary >an outlook of dramatic schoolgirls. I suppose the irony of your own diversity-tier glowniggering is entirely lost on you, friend tourist?
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>>35961 >A letter from the Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Kuleba, in which he addressed his Polish counterpart with a request to deport all Ukrainian male refugees aged 18 to 60 from Poland in order to send them to the front. >The letter doesnt say "deportation" as some polish people have said in the comments, although more pages have been provided, maybe is in there, anyway that they ask for MALES, and not just ukranian citizens points in one direction ...
>>35966 >I'm surprised Patrick Lancaster doesn't get more coverage Are you?
DPA did a video on Ukrainian casualties. I'm gonna listen to it in the background and try to give a tl;dr later, but it's only 8 minutes. https://youtube.com/watch?v=CRvqmtaQgkA
>>35974 I'm not surprised that it gets buried but you would think Western media would jump at the opportunity to use his clips while muting what he's saying and implying it's the Russians doing it. What's he going to do, go back to his country and get suicided trying to sue them?
>>35972 >you MUST use words and wording that my schizo brain came up with or you're a newfag tourist.
>>35970 DO IT
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>vatnigs lost another ship yet again
>>35975 tl;dr- He estimates... >28% Death rate based on foreign volunteer casualties >Rounded down to 1 in 4 >Estimates about 60k dead Ukrainians (unclear if he meant per month or total) >Probably similar (maybe smaller because of artillery/air superiority) numbers for the Russian >An additional 12-13% are surrendering or fleeing from their station (Ukraine counts the two as the same number) Holy shit. I realize that number seems low, but for comparison I don't think the Taliban's death rate ever exceeded 1 in 8 during the height of the Afghanistan war.
>>35979 And they've already restarted ship production in the Sea of Azov so I suspect more of those naturally.
Do you think friendship can bloom even on a battlefield?
>>35983 Nothing says you have to hate your enemy, only that you love your country.
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>>35985 Zelenskyy looks very uncomfortable but I guess if you want to free military equipment really badly, you need to something in reture.
>>35970 Ukraine needs it more than the dictator/Russian puppet. If he doesn't like it, he can go fuck himself. NATO should make it clear that if Belarus strikes Ukraine, it gets Serbia'd.
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>>35987 Just come out and honestly say you ideologically want to reduce the Earth to 1/10th of its current population already.
>>35970 DO IT LEVEL IT TO THE GROUND
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