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Canadian Related Things Strelok 08/25/2021 (Wed) 05:21:07 No.18598
Greetings and Salutations I wish to make a thread for my syrupnigger brethren in regards to firearms and basic politics. I intend this thread to help any leafanons looking to get their PAL and shooters. While theres still a chance for you to own something Vote O'Toole if you still want to keep your guns and have the OIC repealled Important links that you should read >https://pastebin.com/Ndb2jSAu >https://www.howtogetagun.ca/ If you're from 4cuc/k/, kill yourself, we do not want you
I forgot to mention Check out Canadian Gun Nutz's Equipment Exchange or Gunpost if you want to score some decent firearms Be warned 1. Don't get scalped by money grubbing geezers 2. Always trust your gut if you think its a honeypot (ex. someone is selling a banned/prohibited firearm) The twats at the RCMP usually do this to entrap unwary fools 3. If you are selling, always ask the buyer for their PAL number (if they refuse, don't give them anything and cut ties with the so-called buyer)
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https://archive.ph/X5hCK If weedman gets in on the 20th, it's then pretty much gonna be Australia-tier from here on.
>>18940 That fate is inevitable regardless of the election result. A Conservative minority means a left-wing majority and anything pro-gun would fail, and a Conservative majority is (or will soon be) impossible with modern Canadian demographics. And even if it were possible, AND the Tories managed to not be cucks long enough to actually use a majority to pass pro-gun laws, it'd only last one or two elections before the Liberals got in, reversed it, and added more restrictions than ever.
>>18598 >>https://www.howtogetagun.ca/ Looks like a good simple summary. It doesn't answer one question I've always had though. Is it legal for ranges in Canada to rent out firearms for people without licenses to try them at the range? The nearest range to me strictly bans non-members, never mind non-licensees, and its website claims that "All persons require a valid firearms licence to own or to use a firearm in Canada, or to acquire a firearm or ammunition by any means" (emphasis mine), but I thought I'd seen at least one or two mentions of ranges in bigger cities like Toronto that allowed it. I know I won't be able to get a license, because of the requirement to have character references, but I would like to try firing a gun one day, rather than just reading and watching videos about them on the internet.
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>>18943 >That fate is inevitable regardless of the election result. O'Toole said he'll remove the OIC that was undemocratically passed and categorize funz by function. Essentially anon, if he manages to get in That is if the shitlibs don't cheat or pull some heel move he'll essentially be buying us time. And consider that Trudeau is already very unpopular among the working class and normalfags too means that this election just might be the chance where he's ousted. The CPC might be blue Liberals, but they're the only realistic option that is left. That being said, I think the PPC is a Liberal ploy to split the vote >>18947 >Is it legal for ranges in Canada to rent out firearms for people without licenses to try them at the range? Yes, but the one nearby me requires you to have a partner. I think you can guess why, so Average Suicidal Joe doesn't just come to the range, rent said gun, and become anhero with it Its mostly a liability reason from my guess. >The nearest range to me strictly bans non-members I'm guessing you're cursed to live Torcongo, by what I think you mean. I barely go to the range, and most of my shooting happens on crownland. >because of the requirement to have character references, You know you can use your parents for references aswell too. I used my two irl friends are refs>>18943
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Speaking of the Canadian election, why is this photo so fucking funny?
Seriously, why is it so fucking funny? What is wrong with this country?
>>18949 >You know you can use your parents for references aswell too. Not if they think guns are evil and nobody, including me, should be allowed to own them. >requires you to have a partner. >I used my two irl friends are refs i guess there really are no options for someone with no IRL friends.
>>18940 So what you're saying is that Leafland will soon have a problem with "American Cartels" bringing guns over the border illegally and selling them to sandniggers and/or Chinese?
>>18953 Did you try your co-workers that think you're cool enough? By the way you can own antique revolvers without a PAL, anything that's blackpowder really. Hope you like casting and reloading. >https://www.oldgunscanada.com/swrussian48982 >>18951 >What is wrong with this country? Everything after 1965 apparently. >>18955 They already are. The (((Qui))) owned press just doesn't talk about it. Because that's how our glownigger patsy Wortmann managed to get them via Hell's Angels me thinks, or some other gang in Nova Scotia.
>>18951 >Bill Gates is the far right Canadian politician
>>18950 They look shopped there, like cardboard stand ups of themselves. Also that guy power posing with dirty shoes on a carpet is the epitome of North America.
O'Toole pussied out on the OIC. The CPC voter base clearly isn't taking O'Toole's retardation very well. Welp, I guess its clear that this country is assfucked to over 9000 levels. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9qaU-hFM7E >2:10 - "We need more police" >3:00 - "More police resources, +200 RCMP officers for combatting drug and gun smuggling" >7:10 - "OIC ban and other bans will remain" >9:40 - Asks why changed mind and dodges question >11:16 - Confirms again OIC will remain in place >12:11 - Lies and says that he always said OIC would remain in place >13:20 - Dodges question about deal with CCFR, gives me hope but I doubt it >14:33 - Confirms again bans will stay >16:09 - Confirms again bans will stay, (Question mentions AR-15 and mini-14) >21:44 - Journos asks why we should trust him if hes reversing stance, dodges question >22:56 - Confirms again bans will stay >26:30 - Will not repeal C-71 and maintain restrictions >27:55 - "Point of review if maintaining ban?" Dodges question >29:06 - not important to guns but still funny how he wants to push China to "do better" Another fine example of why there's absolutely no political solution in this frozen shitpit.
>>18962 >Also that guy power posing with dirty shoes on a carpet is the epitome of North America. He also wants independence for Quebec. What did he mean by this?
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>>19011 >>19012 >>18950 Canada too?
>>19013 Any british country has some sort of retarded shit like this. Maybe even Germany and france
>>19013 The British have a history of doing stuff like this. If anything I find it endearing when they emulate other cultures... Abroad, that is.
>>19013 >>19012 Strelok needs to understand true Classical Liberal Imperialist (British) culture to get it. Imperialist Britain never died. She simply went dormant during the currently awful long reign of the ruling monarch. When Britain establishes trade with a foreign country, she offers them one chance as equals. If they take the British people up on that, then the British people that take up the foreign exchange are expected to adopt that culture to search for any hidden clues into the sciences or religion that would benefit the home country. Part of this exchange as equals is allowing subcultures to develop in the metropolitan parts of Britain (such as London). If a country does not submit as equals, then the British would bulldoze them into submission and take their women to form a new, British-centric culture in that colony (such as India). It's sort of an overreaction caused by a certain spoiled child who wanted to break British treaties with the (good, mostly extinct) Native Americans and French (even if that child was correct in being rebellious about taxes). Funnily enough, this original British Imperialist culture lives on strongly in Labrador and Australia, of all places, but it is still present in the British political class.
>>19025 Ah, right, the way that Sikhs and Rapefugees come into this is that the Sikhs were one of the "as equals" castes, and rapefugees are a result of a perversion of this Imperialist doctrine by appealing to similar effects while ignoring the causes.
>>19025 It's a pretty similar doctrine to jewish merchants making hubs in important cities with roads to everywhere.
>>18950 >>18951 >why is this photo so fucking funny? It looks like a Star Trek teleport or the stage for a shitty game show. It's funny because it's fitting. >>19006 >Point of review if maintaining ban?" Dodges question Of fucking course. Just gimme my AR damn it.
>>18949 O'tools is backing out on an awful lot and it's extremely concerning. The liberals that I know are ditching the Liberals exactly because our PM is a liar, overtly corrupt, has no principles, and doesn't understand basic economics. O'tool starting to check off a lot of those same boxes and I don't want more of the same government.
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>>18598 Time to get O'Tooled.
>>19086 Popular vote means nothing if the distribution is against you. Last polls I saw were predicting 5.8% for the Bloc, 5.3% for the PPC, and 3.0% for the Greens, nationally, but the same polls predicted the Bloc getting 26 seats, the Greens 1, and the PPC zero. The Conservatives are ahead in popular vote, but the Liberals have an edge in predicted seats.
>>18949 >>19031 >>19086 Burger here. From what I have read it sounds like he's not actually backing out, he's just going to repeal the undemocratic orders and allow legislation to be drafted instead with professionals in industry. If CanadaAnons believe professionals in industry will cuck, that's all there is to it, but it sounds like typical politicalspeak to make him more popular among centrists.
>>19086 >Such a low cultured country that they have to put their national "symbol" in basically all political parties Canada needs to accept that it's just North North America and that the only places that should be their own countries are Quebec, the Inuit territories and maybe the Atlantic Region.
>>19094 >The Inuit territories It will never happen. Canada doesn't talk about it, but they forcefully migrated the Inuit Northward in order to prevent their Southern brother from turning the Northwest Passage into an international sea trade route connecting London to Siberia. The Canadian military has been talking about putting forts along the entire passage lately because everyone except Canada recognizes that the Northwest Passage should be an international trade route and that we wouldn't need to import shit from Asia if it could be used.
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>>19086 Time for a falseflag, goyim!
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>>19110 What even happened? The CBC's new app isn't showing a headline about it at all and CTV's is only saying police are "investigating a file", but you don't evacuate multiple university campuses and issue shelter-in-place orders, and send in guys with this equipment just to "investigate a file".
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>>19110 It sure is!
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>>19167 Oh look, the polls have flipped. What a coincidence!
>>19170 Doesn't that trick ever get old? Commiefornia just did the same thing so Newsom can stay in power.
Democracy is fake and gay.
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>>19199 Democracy is fake, Erin is forever.
Welp, another Liberal minority I guess that will pass more arbitrary laws Thanks again PPCfaggots
I just learned Marc Emery was running as a PPC candidate. How did Dude Weed Man end up on the far-right?
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>>19303 Wow, that was an even bigger load of fucking nothing than I expected.
>>19303 There is not a ballot box solution to your problems. Thinking there is a sign of retardation.
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>>19303 >muh vote splitting Put a sock in it, you had a boring candidate who pandered to lefties and anti-funs faggots and you got boring results.
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The CBC sure has some interesting math depending on where the Liberals sit. Especially since that decimal point explicitly and unambiguously claims it's not being rounded. >>19311 You're right that vote-splitting was not really the issue. Without the PPC there may have been one or two more Conservative ridings, but not enough, and a decent chunk of people voting purple would, if it didn't exist, not have bothered voting at all rather than voting blue. But if he hadn't pandered to lefties the results would have been even worse. Let's not kid ourselves, there's no longer the political will in Canada to get a right-wing party elected. At best the choices will be between centre, left, and further-left.
So now that the giant fucking nothing burger happened and now at least some guys have started realizing that the parties know we have no value as a voting block. If we look at CGN, there's about 100k gun owners who seem to give a shit about our future. We have exceedingly low sympathy in the public sphere, none at the political level, and very little uptake of shooting sports and hunting by millenials and even less by GenZ. The senate has shown itself to be more neutral, but the shift in demographics is going to change that eventually. The lawsuit is still up in the air but the SC (as far as I know) is more willing to slap Conservative gov'ts rather than Liberal. Also, the liberal authored constitution is pretty crap and can be read at the whim of the SC. We are monitored by the gov'ts and pearl-clutchers because of our proclivities toward indepenent thought and "dangerous knowledge" even though most guys are exceedingly law-abiding and generally want to be left alone. The general public has no problem with saying they have problem with legal gun owners but in the next breath demand guns need to go away because "guns r bad". Do we "go quietly into that good night" and let the gov'ts grasp exceed their reach? Where is the line? What liberties need to be trampled before we act? Or do we wait and pick up the pieces of whatever is left in the inevitable Balkanization? Do we become what the gov't thinks we are, pull the pins, machine suppressors and become truly free? Pass down our guns and ammo to the next generation of enthusiasts as we find them? So what now? What's the move?
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>>19332 I honestly think the incoming war with China is going to solve a lot of issues when you leafs either open up the Northwest Passage for British troops to assist, or side with Xi and get steamrolled so us Burgers can use it.
>>19333 I hope we finally liberate the north from the Anglos some day.
>actually believing the empire didn't go full biden on our elections The libs just somehow manage to eke out a win in tons of ridings by razor thin margins all over the country, including mine which had conservative placards on every other lawn and not one liberal sign that I could find despite driving around looking for one. Not that the useless cons would be much better. The fraud just kept things from being a total blowout, and the results are so pathetic that I consider this a win. I guarantee there is a lot of hand wringing in Ottawa right now. You don't call an election unless you need to change the status quo and they failed. Also whinging about gun rights now when the vax pass is being implemented is pathetic, since if your funs are actually going to be worth a damn for anything important the question of legality is immaterial. If participation in society is tied to a "vaccine" then you can be barred from society by denying you said "vaccine", goy. A far more important issue than whether you're allowed to legally own a gun that you can't even use for self defence because it will be shown in court that you couldn't get it out of your goddamn locker in time to be used unless you were "improperly storing" it to begin with.
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>>19342 >coping this hard for Tool But hey, he won the popular vote.
>>19342 >including mine which had conservative placards on every other lawn and not one liberal sign that I could find despite driving around looking for one. Don't know how it is in Canada, but here people only hang up signs when they are either unafraid of the negative reaction they'll get or don't mind painting a target on their back, which is all they're doing. Most "deep X" regions are actually not that "deep" they just have districts set up to maximize votes for a given candidate. I'd look up whether your voting districts changed in the last few years before shouting rigging (I mean it could be rigged, but it could also be rigged in a legal manner).
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>>19342 Don't be stupid. They have no need to rig it under the table. Demographics, and even simply modern Canadian "culture", give them most of the result they want, and the open and legal election rules do the rest. >>19349 >I mean it could be rigged, but it could also be rigged in a legal manner That's the real truth. In previous elections, Trudeau had made campaign promises of electoral reform, saying he would move to amend election law to implement proportional representation instead of first-past-the-post. However, he completely went back on that, disavowed proportional representation as "benefiting fringe parties" read: it would give the PPC seats, and suggested that maybe this time he'd propose ranked ballots. In a sane world, having the party that has governed for something like 70% of the country's history openly say that they are deliberately structuring national electoral law to benefit themselves, and to disadvantage smaller parties, would be at least be called undemocratic, and perhaps met with something stronger. But I guess most Canadians think that's fine. I actually looked at the numbers from the past three elections, and highlighted every case where a party's share of seats was more than 2 percentage points different than its share of the total popular vote. In grey are cases where the party got more seats than vote share, and in yellow they got less. I exclude the Bloc since their geographical limits mean this comparison doesn't really make sense. The results are pretty clear. Now, proportional representation wouldn't actually benefit the right very much. Even if you assume the PPC's share would double once strategic voting for Conservatives went away, those votes would be coming from the Conservatives, so the share is still less than 40% for the two together. And the NDP, which is ever further left that the Liberals, would benefit most. But the FPtP system is why Trudeau's Liberals win.
>>19345 I don't give a shit about, nor did I vote for her majesty's loyal opposition and I care even less for the cardboard cutout running the party, I just have eyes in my head. >>19349 Being identified as a tory doesn't really have the same level of stigma that being openly republican does in the states. Our political dynamic is different, mainly because our parties are even more controlled and in lockstep with globohomo than the R's and D's. You are correct in hinting at "legal" rigging (though I am convinced that this election was fraudulent, though still disappointing to the establishment), one need only look at Toronto's ridiculous influence on the whole country to see that. People like to bitch about the Bloc but at least they are confined to Quebec and it's not like there'll ever be a BQ prime minister.
>>19351 Keep burying your head in the sand and thinking that globohomo's favoured party just happens to win dozens of close races by a handful of votes despite the man on the street being overwhelmingly, vocally. sick of their shit in those very ridings, and despite early polling painting a very different picture.
>>19353 >and despite early polling painting a very different picture. What are you talking about? The popular vote very closely reflects the polls. PPC is down a bit, but that is to be expected since people will tend to vote more pragmatically than they say they will. >the man on the street being overwhelmingly, vocally. sick of their shit First, your personal perception of "the man on the street" depends EXTREMELY strongly on who you talk to. Most of the people around me are university students, so if I were to judge by that metric, I'd have predicted the Conservatives would have come in third in my riding behind the Liberals and NDP, rather than the actual result of the Conservatives coming in second only a few points behind the Liberals. Second, being "sick of their shit" does not translate into voting. Current numbers say that turnout was down 5 percentage points from 2019. There are more people who voted in 2019 and didn't bother this year than the total number who voted PPC. Being "sick of their shit" translates to apathy at least as easily as it translates to support for an alternative. But sure, keep on crying fraud because the result isn't what you wanted.
>>19356 What part of I didn't vote conservative are you having trouble understanding? Why are you seemingly emotionally invested in the integrity of Canadian elections?
>>19376 I'm not emotionally invested, I just think you're wrong. >What part of I didn't vote conservative are you having trouble understanding? Well, for one thing, the part where you claim that people being sick of the Liberals is proof that they'd vote them out, while also saying that you yourself did not vote for the only party likely to beat them.
>>19379 I didn't vote for anyone actually, because I thought it was rigged from the start. The last time I thought of myself as a "Conservative" was when Harper was still PM. Since then the PCs have shown no desire to be anything other than the controlled opposition party, laughing and losing all the way to the bank, just like Obama era Republicans. Voting just legitimises the charade. I don't need to be a diehard supporter of a given candidate in some African shithole country to recognise when fraud or manipulation occurred in an election, and I don't need to be a card carrying, rally attending Tory to realise that the fix was in for the Liberals as soon as that literal faggot Trudy called an election.
>>19390 >rigged >fraud >manipulation >fix And yet you haven't provided any evidence whatsoever to support that, nor an explanation for why they would need to rather than just winning the election normally as they were obviously going to and were expected to do the whole time.
>>19393 I'm not trying to convince anyone that the election was rigged. I believe it was rigged, and that's a separate issue. What I find amusing is streloks are such deep died normalfaggots that the default assumption isn't that all elections are at least manipulated, and suggesting the political class and their apologists might be less than %100 honest is met with shock and dismay. On a fucking imageboard. I'm going to keep calling bullshit without bothering to present evidence and there's nothing you can do about it. Watch me do it again: >mossad did 9/11
>>19395 That should be >deep dyed
>>19395 >>mossad did 9/11 >implies Israel needed mossad to force Bush to do it >>19393 Let me tell you one evidence that would make any sane person realise all elections are rigged. The vote software isn't open sourced, the machine that runs the software doesn't run open source firmware. Any input you put into these machines are arbitrary until machine decides to process it. The company that made these machines owns the election and your vote is nothing more than data the machine chooses to process. The only reason why we believe they don't rig the election is because we believe they don't. Now think, what are they hiding inside a machine used in voting.
>>19399 The election was done on paper. There was no machine or software involved in ballot-casting. Elections Canada even got in trouble a year or two ago when Trump retweeted them saying Canadian federal elections don't use electronic voting.
>>19395 Streloks do think it was rigged. Legally rigged, because both Canadians and Americans have been gerrymandering for years as the post you were replying to implied.
>>19401 >>19399 Democracy is the god that failed.
>>19406 Democracy is a Cargo culture and the ballot box is the plane.
>>19395 The truth is the harder pill to swallow: people are cowards.
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I want to know more about Canadian culture, and I doubt I will find much on the first few pages on my search engine of choice.
>>18950 >name my band
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>>19611 It was over a long time ago and the country is now a resource extraction (rather than technology) based variant of California.

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