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Strelok 02/21/2021 (Sun) 08:11:09 No.13492

Two folks killed by police. Jewtube link when anon.cafe inevitably refuses to let the file go through but posts my post anyways: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J205cE6NQHM

Strelok 02/21/2021 (Sun) 11:49:54 No.13494

Maybe it's a bit too late to have a thread, i hope i'm wrong but it feels as if the happening already happened, it'll probably go the way of Thailand. As for China i doubt an actual war will happen, considering the military government will become/is an international pariah they'll have no option but ask for Chinese suzerainty. Despite their leanings https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=YNN0HAMm92w is a decent analysis.

Strelok 02/21/2021 (Sun) 16:36:28 No.13497

Will it be entertaining if it happens?

Strelok 02/21/2021 (Sun) 19:09:21 No.13499

>>13494 This happening won't be over until either a foreign government intervenes or the elections allegedly happen next year. The thing about Myanmar is they are probably one of the more developed countries in that region so their people have tasted ~~degeneracy~~ "market democracy" and aren't going to let it go so easily. If there is no election and the military has held power over this year, the demonstrations might turn into armed conflict. >>13497 Mildest scenario we get involves protests for 9 more months and a peaceful transition of power. Most likely scenario is foreign intervention and potentially shots fired. Best case scenario is millions of dead Chinks and possibly a decisive Tang victory.

Strelok 02/21/2021 (Sun) 20:43:05 No.13501

>>13499 >Most likely scenario is foreign intervention and potentially shots fired. So instead of Iran it's Vietnam 2: Electric Boomerloo or alternatively Somalia depending on how far Yamamoto takes his schemes, sasuga Bidup.

Strelok 02/21/2021 (Sun) 23:44:57 No.13502

>>13499 >in re government intervention The chinese/indians won't openly intervene because then the entire Burma populace has a rallying cry of fuck whoever just intervened. If there's one thing the Juntra in Burma is good at, its not trusting the US government since there's only 3 power players in that region (China, India, USA). Also, we might see china pull a vietnam on some of the territory ceeded to the Burmese in the 70s.

Strelok 02/22/2021 (Mon) 02:47:13 No.13507

>>13502 Are the Chinese any good at running covert operations though? Their abilities seem pathetic in contrast to the KGB during the Cold War.

Strelok 02/22/2021 (Mon) 05:23:58 No.13512

>>13507 Its a different form of covert ops than the KGB. The soviets and the americans are a bit more shall we say "active" in their measures. I still think too many people underestimate the capabilities of their covert branch (except for direct action which they suck at, south sudan is a good example). For the Chinese their philospohy is much more passive. Why cause a coup when you can just pour money to both sides?

Strelok 02/23/2021 (Tue) 04:02:56 No.13555

China Is the Myanmar Coup’s ‘Biggest Loser’ A relationship decades in the making is now in jeopardy. https://archive.is/QtcqD tl;dr- China made good friends with the Suu Kyi government and has done an about face in recognizing the Military coup by playing neutral, making protestors riot outside Chink embassies in anger for following the status quo. China's fucked if the military doesn't maintain power but they could be at war with said military if they don't relinquish some of said power in next year's elections. Western countries step up pressure on Myanmar junta as protests go on https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-politics/western-countries-step-up-pressure-on-myanmar-junta-as-protests-go-on-idUSKBN2AN058 Over 2000 in queue and not going down so no archive: https://archive.is/wip/t3T10 tl;dr- Indonesia is leading the SEAnigger push to make next year's elections as fair as possible. Protestors are pointing to the American elections as an example of why they shouldn't have to have re-elections and thus have started protesting the Indonesian embassy as well. US sanctions two more Myanmar generals after protest crackdown US move follows military’s use of force against rioters over the weekend that left two dead. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/23/myanmar-more-action https://archive.is/wip/THerm tl;dr- America can't do shit so they're sanctioning military officials. Fail to realize this does nothing because the plebs who are ultimately the ones who sanctions could affect are already striking.

Strelok 02/23/2021 (Tue) 19:11:31 No.13566

I've been to Myanmar 2x+2 if you count work. Politically, they are similar to Thailand in that a foreigner may oversimplify the situation as being the military + the capital + the elite vs. the rest of the country. In Myanmar's case, he would say that Yangon is the capital and not the shitty little ghost town of nappy dog where he's had the unfortunate displeasure of being forced sober. Socio-economically, Myanmar is severely underdeveloped almost everywhere outside of Yangon, which itself is severely underdeveloped compared to most other SEA cities. Chinese SOEs are heavily invested in energy and supporting infrastructure. In typical Chinese fashion, FDI is coupled with the export of thousands of undersexed male Chinese workers to colonize the recipient country in Special Economic Zones. One SEZ of particular interest is Kyaukpyu, a high-priority target of Chinese FDI to exploit Burmese offshore oil. They have a brand-new oil pipeline that leads to a brand-new refinery in Kunming. They also have a semi-new gas pipeline and railroad going the same way. They are building a deepwater port and, to bribe the Burmese government for allowing them an Indian Ocean port, another SEZ. In short, the Burmese ruling class are on their knees sucking a tiny ritter Chinese cock for gibs. This is typical of countries targeted by Chinese FDI. Mostly for this reason, I doubt Myanmar can turn into another Syria.

Strelok 02/23/2021 (Tue) 19:17:08 No.13568

>>13566 Any entities with incentives to run guns to the countryside ala the Viet Cong?

Strelok 02/23/2021 (Tue) 20:52:52 No.13569

>>13568 Nit him but maybe the ethnic minorities. Issue is those are all along the Chink border.

Strelok 02/23/2021 (Tue) 22:43:17 No.13571

>>13568 Not that I know of. Much of Myanmar is essentially lawless. The jungley hills bordering China, Thailand and Bangladesh are full of rebels, druglords and slavers. They must have connections with the touristy opium dens and brothels of Yangon and Mandalay. They might trade for firearms with corrupt officials. But rather than stealing weapons from the military, it's far easier and less risky for them to simply trade with the Thais across their long, remote and insecure shared border. For some reason, Thailand has lots of guns and gun violence. They also source tons of meth, opium and slaves from Myanmar.

Strelok 02/24/2021 (Wed) 01:25:01 No.13573

>>13571 Isn't Thailand's problem commie rebels?

Strelok 02/24/2021 (Wed) 02:47:13 No.13575

>>13573 Not commies, jihadis. Tbf tho every country has a problem with commies.

Strelok 02/28/2021 (Sun) 20:11:07 No.13683

Now 18 protesters killed.

Strelok 02/28/2021 (Sun) 20:42:14 No.13686

>>13683 Bets on if we'll reach triple digits before the foreign intervention starts? Quadruple digits? When do protestors get labeled as insurgents?

Strelok 02/28/2021 (Sun) 21:03:28 No.13687

>>13686 >foreign intervention. If you're talking about the US, not likely. I guarantee you China/India are already intervening with (((aid))). This entire coup I think was orchistrated by India possibly, they didn't like the fact that Suu was drifting to the US/China (remember, India is aligned with Russia, while the US is aligned with Pakistan in the Indian subcontinent).

Strelok 02/28/2021 (Sun) 21:12:09 No.13688

>>13687 I could see that. China was threatening war with Bhutan to get at India because even though India and Bhutan have friendly relations, they don't have a military alliance. I could see India helping a Burmese coup in an act of retaliation against that.

Strelok 03/04/2021 (Thu) 05:28:54 No.13770

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56265962 https://archive.is/sPBg2 >At least 38 people were killed in Myanmar on Wednesday in what the UN described as the "bloodiest day" since the coup took place a month ago. >At least six people were reportedly shot dead during a protest in Monywa in central Myanmar. At least 30 others were wounded in the unrest, a local journalist told Reuters. >A volunteer medic told AFP news agency in Myingyan that at least 10 people had been injured there. "They fired tear gas, rubber bullets and live rounds," they said. >"They didn't spray us with water cannon, [there was] no warning to disperse, they just fired their guns," one protester in the city told Reuters. >In Mandalay, a student protester told the BBC that demonstrators were killed near her house. >"I think around 10am or 10.30, police and soldiers came to that area and then they started to shoot at civilians. They didn't give any warning to the civilians. >"They just came out and they started to shoot. They used rubber bullets but they also used live bullets to kill civilians in a violent way." >The military has not commented on the reported deaths. I don't believe that the Burma military can cut off internet but not drag foreign reporters out.

Strelok 03/04/2021 (Thu) 05:33:34 No.13771

>>13770 I'm sure the usual suspects are hard at work funding the turmoil. Funny how they suddenly focus on anything that threatens the globohomo (((narrative))).

Strelok 03/04/2021 (Thu) 09:14:27 No.13773

>>13770 I've also come across the term ˝Asian spring˝ and reports about Hong Kong protesters sending the protesters a handbook about how to protest. Too bad that the military of Myanmar is not as toothless as Shina. Also, considering how most adult males spend at least a few years as Buddhist monks, it might be just a question of time for monks to show up on both sides, to the bewilderment of the globohomo community.

Strelok 03/04/2021 (Thu) 09:17:11 No.13775

i prayed so that everyone is ok but i guess life says "no".

Strelok 03/04/2021 (Thu) 10:49:28 No.13776

>>13770 Will we see Napalm in South-East Asia again in our lifetimes?

Strelok 03/04/2021 (Thu) 12:19:00 No.13777

Meh.

Strelok 03/04/2021 (Thu) 15:46:46 No.13780

>>13777 >That filename Juntas are shit but you won't convince me that they're the terrorists for wanting national sovereignty not beholden to others.

Strelok 03/04/2021 (Thu) 15:50:01 No.13781

Also now that the video loaded, that wrist reveal was deliberate. That old fart is part of the problem and the amber mining in Burma is considered part of a greater smuggling/insurrection issue that the Myanmar military has contended with against the international community of historians/archaeologists who want cheap relics without reimbursing the people who were abused for decades now.

Strelok 03/04/2021 (Thu) 20:06:37 No.13786

>>13781 Any idea how old the Burmese culture is? What people are the main group descended from? How in the world did a woman come into power there? Sage for politics, etc. here.

Strelok 03/04/2021 (Thu) 21:30:16 No.13788

>>13786 >Any idea how old the Burmese culture is? Realistically their culture didn't begin to develop until about the 1200s. Burmese are an ethnic admixture of Han origins and Sino-Tibetan Austroasiatics (Thailand/Vietnam) that heavily adopted Indian culture when it spread through the region at one point in time (allowing for the large number of Buddhists in Myanmar today). That isn't to say the people didn't exist in that region (Burma is a collection of ancient ethnic minorities all under one banner), but they were largely considered backwoods jungle farmers living along rivers by virtually every society that passed through until the Indians took an interest in them and helped them develop a rich religious culture. The ruins that people smuggle shit out of in the Northern part of Myanmar are considered to come from a handful of ethnic minority groups that happened to be cut from a better cloth than their river/SEAnigger brethren (and who are mostly extinct or critically endangered today).

Strelok 03/05/2021 (Fri) 02:37:10 No.13799

>>13788 I see thanks, Hitler-digits. So, pardon my ignorance, but is this the place with all those exotic looking centuries-old idol statues and temples rotting away in the jungles? Like scenes from Laura Croft?

Strelok 03/05/2021 (Fri) 04:41:36 No.13805

>>13799 Just think of Burma as being populated by river folk with a bunch of world heritage sites when you go jungle-delving. Like an Asian version of Northern Brazil/French Guiana.

Strelok 03/05/2021 (Fri) 04:43:17 No.13806

>>13805 By river folk and smugglers.*

Strelok 03/06/2021 (Sat) 21:41:14 No.13851

>>13770 >but not drag foreign reporters out. The foreign reporters aren't in the country, silly. they use stock photos and make shit up.

Strelok 03/16/2021 (Tue) 08:16:28 No.14069

So it seems that shit is still happening over there. Claims of 183 dead now and the protestors are supposedly burning chinese-linked factories. I am interested in how this plays out. Afterall, the West appears to support the protestors, but Suu Kyi was clearly supporting China before the coup. China can win no matter what if it has the backing of both sides. But the populace could be led by the west to push against Chinese influence if Suu Kyi is placed back into power or the junta is toppled in general. Either way it seems the strategy is to keep protesting in what I assume are hopes outside countries outright intervene, but they are most likely only going to get China to appear to guard its interests. https://archive.ph/X0WdM

Strelok 03/16/2021 (Tue) 15:43:24 No.14080

>>14069 Suu is smart (in the realpolitik) and flip flops on her backers like Italians, she was originally a western puppet before flipping to china and maybe now (?) flipping back to the west. The juntra was/ is(?) smarter and is willing to suffer economic damage in return for independence from both sides. The difference between Burma and China versus Moscow is that they were fully willing to open fire compared to the lacklusture response in 91' (and the fact they didn't have to be bankrupted by Chernobyl).

Strelok 03/18/2021 (Thu) 07:13:01 No.14151

I have some understanding of the region and can provide secondary if anyone has a specific interest.

Strelok 03/18/2021 (Thu) 07:51:17 No.14156

>>14151 Is there any country in the region that may give us some midly entertaining moments Armenia-Azerbaiyan style?

Strelok 03/29/2021 (Mon) 23:51:52 No.14456

Looks like a hundred a day getting mown down now. What next?

Strelok 03/30/2021 (Tue) 01:45:05 No.14458

>>14069 >that salute How did this even come about? Was it from years of mindlessly consuming images of independent and strong mary sues from western fiction or did they not understand the reference and thought it was something cool, mysterious and original enough to start doing? I also assumed most of these backwoods shitholes were too impoverished for entitled women to have the privilage of wasting time to protest instead of being a home maker.

Strelok 03/30/2021 (Tue) 01:59:23 No.14460

Thailand is sending Karens fleeing airstrikes back home. https://archive.is/HIRQ1 >Thai soldiers began sending back some of the thousands of people who have fled a series of airstrikes by the military in neighboring Myanmar, people familiar with the matter said Monday. But Thai officials denied that as the insecurity on the border added a new dimension to an already volatile crisis set off by a coup in Myanmar. >The weekend strikes, which sent ethnic Karen people seeking safety in Thailand, represented another escalation in the violent crackdown by Myanmar’s junta on protests of its Feb. 1 takeover. On Saturday, more than 100 people were killed in and around demonstrations throughout the country — the bloodiest single day since the takeover. >U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres called the surge in killings by the military on Armed Forces Day “absolutely horrendous,” and urged greater unity and commitment by the international community to put pressure on the coup leaders to reverse course and go back to “a serious democratic transition.” >“My message to the military is very simple: Stop the killing. Stop the repression of the demonstrations. Release the political prisoners, and return power to those that have really the right to exercise it,” he told reporters at U.N. headquarters in New York. >In response to reports of people fleeing the airstrikes, Thai Prime Minister Prayut Chan-ocha had said earlier Monday that the country didn’t want “mass migration” but that it was preparing for an influx of people and would take human rights issues into consideration. >But later, three people with knowledge of the matter said Thai soldiers had begun to force people to return to Myanmar. >A spokesman for Thailand’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, however, said claims that some Karen were being forced to return to Myanmar were “inaccurate.” >“Those reports cite information solely from non-official sources without confirming the facts from official sources on the ground. ... In fact, the Thai authorities will continue to look after those on the Thai side while assessing the evolving situation and the needs on the ground,” Tanee Sangrat wrote in a statement. >Myanmar aircraft carried out three strikes overnight Sunday >The bombings may have been in retaliation for a reported attack by the Karen National Liberation Army in which they claimed to have captured a Myanmar government military outpost on Saturday morning. The group is fighting for greater autonomy for the Karen people. >The government has battled the Karen fighters on and off for years >As of Sunday, at least 459 people have been killed

Strelok 03/30/2021 (Tue) 02:05:51 No.14461

>>14458 IIRC the civilized parts parts of the country are fairly westernized due to some US initiatives to get Myanmar into the global trade economy in the 2000s/2010s. Funnily enough these people are the result of Western influence and those Western influences are currently all ending trade deals that allowed these protest groups to form in the first place (https://archive.is/cpf27). It's going to be hilarious when this backfires in their faces and solidifies the military's position by putting all those Western-influenced protestors out of a job.

Strelok 03/30/2021 (Tue) 06:51:05 No.14463

>>14456 >UN Security Council has to have a unanimous vote to do anything >China, Russia, and America are members Either Myanmar becomes the basis for a new coldwar proxy war or you just continue to see countries and the UN be deeply concerned for years, much like Venezuela since nothing is going to happen.

Strelok 04/02/2021 (Fri) 03:47:04 No.14545

Burmese government gets sick of Jewish bullshit and starts shooting journalists: https://archive.is/0SygB >Ten days after seizing power in Myanmar, the generals issued their first command to journalists: Stop using the words “coup,” “regime” and “junta” to describe the military’s takeover of the government. >Journalists refused >Since then, the regime has arrested at least 56 journalists, outlawed online news outlets known for hard-edge reporting and crippled communications by cutting off mobile data service. Three photojournalists have been shot and wounded while taking photographs of the anti-coup demonstrations. >Ms. Thuzar Myat, 21, noted that few people were able to document the protests in 1988, when the Tatmadaw, as the military is known, stamped out a pro-democracy movement by massacring an estimated 3,000 people. She said she saw it as her duty to help capture evidence of today’s violence even though one soldier had already threatened to kill her if she didn’t stop. >To keep from being targeted, journalists have stopped wearing helmets or vests emblazoned with the word “PRESS” and try to blend in with the protesters. Many also keep a low profile by not receiving credit for their published work and avoiding sleeping in their own homes. >Even so, their professional-quality cameras can give them away. >At the same time, soldiers and the police routinely search civilians’ phones for protest photographs or videos. >“Only the journalist’s action itself can guarantee that they will not be arrested,” said the spokesman, Brig. Gen. Zaw Min Tun. “If their actions violate the law, then they will be arrested.” All three journalists who have been shot and wounded say they were targeted by security forces. >The freelance journalist Ko Htet Myat Thu, 24, was taking pictures of protests on Saturday in Kyaikto, a town in southern Myanmar, when a soldier shot him in the leg, he said. A video of his arrest taken by a citizen journalist from a nearby building shows soldiers beating him and forcing him to hop on his good leg as they lead him away. >Another photojournalist shot that day, U Si Thu, 36, was hit in his left hand as he was holding his camera to his face and photographing soldiers in Mandalay >Of the 56 journalists arrested, half have been released, according to a group that is tracking arrests. Among those freed were reporters for The Associated Press and the BBC. >Ma Kay Zon Nway, 27, a reporter for Myanmar Now, live streamed her own arrest in late February as she was running from the police in Yangon, Myanmar’s largest city. The sound of her labored breathing is audible as the police catch up and take her away.

Strelok 04/02/2021 (Fri) 03:55:34 No.14548

Also they finally shut down the internet: https://archive.is/y9TPR >Myanmar’s military government ordered broadband Internet shutdowns Thursday amid ongoing opposition >The escalation came as the country marked two months since the army’s toppling of the civilian-led government, which has faced some public resistance despite the military’s lethal response: More than 500 civilian protesters have been killed and more than 2,000 arrested since Feb. 1, according to local activists. >The United Nations’ special envoy for Myanmar, Christine Schraner Burgener, on Wednesday warned that “a bloodbath is imminent” if the international community did not act to quell the violence. >Last Saturday marked the bloodiest day since the coup, with troops reportedly killing over 140 protesters in more than 40 locations across the country. >Reuters reported Thursday that official orders to halt wireless broadband services did not provide any explanation. Myanmar’s military previously shut down mobile Internet access and slowed service. >A lawyer for Aung San Suu Kyi, Myanmar’s deposed leader, also Thursday said that the detained opposition leader had been charged the week before in Yangon with breaking the country’s secrets law, the most serious allegation against her yet. The lawyer told Reuters that he had heard about the charges against Suu Kyi and several other members of her National League for Democracy only two days ago. >If convicted, she could face up to 14 years in jail. >The military said it intervened to oust Suu Kyi following claims of election fraud in a vote this past November. >In recent weeks, the military has escalated attacks against two opposition groups, the Kachin Independence Army and the Karen National Union

Strelok 04/02/2021 (Fri) 14:51:51 No.14572

>>14548 What is that salute from?

Strelok 04/02/2021 (Fri) 14:55:05 No.14573

>>14548 >with breaking the country’s secrets law What did she do?

Strelok 04/02/2021 (Fri) 15:27:21 No.14577

>>14573 IIRC she circumvented a bunch of laws about radio and telecommunications and was caught in bed with Western journalists spreading false narratives. >>14572 Hunger Games. >>14545 >Makes the guy hop on one leg after shooting him in the leg That video cracks me up.

Strelok 04/02/2021 (Fri) 21:08:42 No.14599

>>14577 Not him and not a big fan of her western approach but Myanmar's military have behaved like ultra glowniggers compared to Aung's flipflopping around jews and the fu manchus. A strong hand is always good but i don't see a doctrine behind the army mowing down hundreds of protestors as far as in the 70's, they weren't even commies by their words and nowadays they can only point at "foreign intervention" despite being tons of them. No monarchy or great party either, it's just a bunch of almost anonymous jarheads. All seems sketchy, especially with "secret laws" being called out of nowhere.

Strelok 04/03/2021 (Sat) 01:25:02 No.14607

>>14599 I have my doubts that anything good can come from an Asian junta, however on the flip side of that, I'd rather every country be in a constant state of civil war than ever accept American or Chinese rule.

Strelok 04/08/2021 (Thu) 22:47:53 No.14724

Myanmar's military seizes country's London embassy. https://archive.is/hYU6j The ambassador said he was locked out when he spoke to local media, describing the incident as "a kind of coup, in the middle of London.” >Myanmar’s ambassador in London said Wednesday that he has been kicked out of the embassy building by the country’s military attaché. >Kyaw Zwar Minn said the embassy staff were asked to leave the building by a representative of Myanmar's military in the UK and he was told he was no longer the country's representative. >The ambassador said he was locked out when he spoke to local media, describing the incident as "a kind of coup, in the middle of London.” >“They are refusing to let me inside. They said they received instruction from the capital, so they are not going to let me in,” he said. >“This a coup. This is the UK. We are not in Myanmar, in Burma. They are not able to do this. The British government won’t allow this one, you’ll see that.” >Zwar Minn had declared his opposition to the coup and issued a statement demanding the release of Aung San Suu Kyi, the de facto leader of the ruling party the National League for Democracy (NLD), and civilian leaders. >He had also met with UK Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab to condemn the atrocities by the military in Myanmar. The country’s state TV said he was being recalled for releasing an unauthorized statement. >At least 581 people in Myanmar have been killed since the country’s military seized control, said a Myanmar-based civil rights group. >As of April 6, a total of 2,750 people were under detention and 38 of them were sentenced, according to the Assistance Association for Political Prisoners (AAPP).

Strelok 04/08/2021 (Thu) 23:02:54 No.14725

Celebrity model arrested amid crackdown https://archive.is/FFphU One of Myanmar's most popular celebrities has been arrested by the military as part of a growing crackdown on artists and actors. >Paing Takhon, a model and actor with millions of fans in Myanmar and Thailand, had been active in both online protests and in-person rallies. >Takhon's Instagram - with more than a million followers - has been taken down along with his Facebook account. >According to a Facebook post by Takhon's sister Thi Thi Lwin, around 50 soldiers with eight military trucks came to arrest him at around 05:00 local time (22:30 GMT Wednesday) on Thursday. >A close acquaintance of his, who did not wish to be named, told the BBC he was taken from his mother's home in North Dagon, a township in Yangon. >The 24-year-old had previously been seen participating in several demonstrations and marches. >He had also posted images of ousted civilian leader and pro-democracy icon Aung San Suu Kyi. >Arrest warrants for around 100 filmmakers, actors, celebrities and journalists have been issued for speaking out against the coup. >Earlier this week security forces arrested the country's best-known comedian Zarganar. >Last week, Myanmar beauty pageant winner Han Lay, spoke out against the coup in a speech at an event held in Thailand. Armed clashes break out in Myanmar between troops and anti-junta protesters https://archive.is/v7cUW >Protesters armed with homemade guns, knives and firebombs fought back against the troops in the town of Taze and more soldiers were brought in, the Myanmar Now and Irrawaddy news outlets said. >Fighting carried on into Thursday morning and at least 11 protesters were killed and about 20 wounded, they said. There was no word of any casualties among the soldiers. >Taze is near the town of Kale, where at least 12 people were killed in a similar clash between troops and protesters on Wednesday, according to news media and witnesses. >The incidents could signal a new phase in which the opposition has started using armed resistance >A member of the CRPH, which is attempting to restore the civilian government, will on Friday address an informal, virtual gathering of the 15 U.N. Security Council members in New York, diplomats said. >It will be the first public discussion of Myanmar by the Council’s members since the coup on Feb. 1. >The Security Council has condemned the violence against protesters, but has not defined the military takeover as a coup or threatened any action, due to opposition by China, Russia, India and Vietnam. >Myanmar is the world’s main source of jade, and a major source of rubies and other rare gems. >The U.S. Treasury Department said it would curb the junta’s ability to generate revenues. >An adviser to the CRPH told Reuters that at least six lawmakers from the National League for Democracy were now sheltering in India. >An Indian police official said they were among about 1,800 people who had entered from Myanmar since late February.

Strelok 04/08/2021 (Thu) 23:04:33 No.14726

>>14725 Forgot the images. It's important to always steal images from news websites when they force you to use inspect element to locate the image.

Strelok 04/09/2021 (Fri) 02:32:14 No.14729

>>14577 >Hunger Games. Can they all die just for referencing this trash?

Strelok 04/09/2021 (Fri) 03:18:25 No.14731

>>14729 I ended up looking it up. Apparently it was group of youth protestors from 2014 who used the symbol as a meme, at which point the Burmese and Thai governments became triggered and made it illegal. Then in 2015 some protestor used the symbol anyways as a "fuck the police" sort of thing and it's been big in Thailand/Burma ever since.

Strelok 04/09/2021 (Fri) 03:24:04 No.14732

>>14724 >Ambassador thinking UK will do anything I doubt the UK will do anything drastic when touching an embassy can create a diplomatic firestorm. Wouldn't they also have to declare the military junta as an invalid government to justify the embassy being closed down?

Strelok 04/09/2021 (Fri) 04:32:29 No.14733

>>14726 >It's important to always steal images from news websites when they force you to use inspect element to locate the image. Based Strelok. Thanks. Lol what a shitshow. >[popcorn intensifies]* Andrew Anglin was correct; it's foolish for a government of any sort to allow the CIA Communists to influence a culture through Facebook & Twitter. Shutting down those two sites nationally should have been priority one on day one. Now they have a bag full of rattlesnakes instead of peace and calm.

Strelok 04/09/2021 (Fri) 06:55:57 No.14735

>>14732 >Wouldn't they also have to declare the military junta as an invalid government to justify the embassy being closed down? That's really their only recourse. The UK has always been one of the most involved European countries when it comes to Asian affairs, so they stand to lose the most if they close down the embassy since it would affect their relations with India, Thailand, etc. That being said, they do have a legal basis to shut it down unless the military junta declares a new ambassador (which would significantly complicate the situation). Right now I don't think the UK will do shit since making Asian hostile to them in the middle of all this Brexit stuff would put them at a disadvantage. Not unless France or America promised them some sort of economic concessions to put pressure on Burma, anyways.

Strelok 04/09/2021 (Fri) 12:12:32 No.14736

>>14572 >>14577 >>14729 >>14731 Hunger Games may have stolen it and these Rice Niggers may reference it, but that is the international Scout Salute.

Strelok 04/09/2021 (Fri) 12:33:05 No.14737

>>14736 Yeah but I figured none of the other Streloks were former boy scouts.

Strelok 04/09/2021 (Fri) 12:40:31 No.14738

>>14737 Why would you think that Strelok? I expect probably half of us were. It's commonplace for White military men, after all.

Strelok 04/09/2021 (Fri) 13:13:42 No.14739

>>14736 I though it's the international sign for asking three beers.

Strelok 04/09/2021 (Fri) 16:31:13 No.14742

>>14738 It's a lot less common from folks born in the 90s onwards, and alternative imageboards are about 70% men born in the 80s/90s (the rest being early 2000s or late 70s outside of rare ojiisan and baby exceptions).

Strelok 04/09/2021 (Fri) 19:33:11 No.14747

>>14736 I thought that it meant "read in between the lines.''

Strelok 04/10/2021 (Sat) 00:01:49 No.14749

>>14736 I thought it may have pre-existed. I doubt the gooks even know of the connection though.

Strelok 04/11/2021 (Sun) 20:10:33 No.14771

Myanmar security forces with rifle grenades kill over 80 protesters Soldiers used machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades to attack an organized group of protesters who had set up barricades to defend part of Bago. https://archive.is/AxHLM https://archive.is/9uuU5 >Myanmar security forces fired rifle grenades at protesters in a town near Yangon on Friday, killing more than 80 people. >Details of the death toll in the town of Bago, 90 km (55 miles) northeast of Yangon, were not initially available because security forces piled up bodies in the Zeyar Muni pagoda compound and cordoned off the area, according to witnesses and domestic media outlets. >Firing started before dawn on Friday and continued into the afternoon. >“It is like genocide,” the news outlet quoted a protest organiser called Ye Htut as saying. “They are shooting at every shadow.” >Many residents of the town have fled, according to accounts on social media. >An alliance of ethnic armies in Myanmar that has opposed the junta’s crackdown attacked a police station in the east on Saturday and at least 10 policemen were killed. >The police station at Naungmon in Shan state was attacked early in the morning by fighters from an alliance that includes the Arakan Army, the Ta’ang National Liberation Army and the Myanmar National Democratic Alliance Army. >Ousted Myanmar lawmakers urged the United Nations Security Council on Friday to take action against the military. >“Our people are ready to pay any cost to get back their rights and freedom,” said Zin Mar Aung, who has been appointed acting foreign minister for a group of ousted lawmakers. She urged Council members to apply both direct and indirect pressure on the junta. >The military appears to be targeting centers of resistance around the country, using overwhelming power against largely untrained, poorly armed protesters. In Tamu, a town near the border with India, members of a local defense group similar to the one in Bago claimed to have killed some members of the security forces on Saturday after coming under attack. >A small rebel group called the Kuki National Army, one of many ethnic armed groups that have been fighting Myanmar’s military for years in regional conflicts, said it had helped the Tamu protesters battle the security forces on Saturday >Myanmar’s military rulers said on Friday that protests against its rule were dwindling because people wanted peace, and that it would hold elections within two years. >Junta spokesman Major General Zaw Min Tun told a news conference on Friday in the capital, Naypyitaw, that the military had recorded 248 civilian deaths and 16 police deaths, and said no automatic weapons had been used by security forces. >The death toll has passed 700, with more than 80 killed on Friday in one city alone, according to rights groups >On Friday, a spokesman for the junta, Maj. Gen. Zaw Min Tun, suggested that the military had been exercising restraint since the coup, telling reporters that it could be killing many more people if it wished. >“If we were to actually shoot the protesters with an automatic rifle, the 500 people you are talking about would have died within hours,” he said after being asked about the nationwide toll. >Over the weekend, rights groups accused the military of trying to intimidate protesters with a new tactic: death sentences in a military court. On Friday, state television reported that 23 people had been sentenced to die after a closed trial for killing a soldier on March 26 in Yangon. >The case was handled by a military court because the alleged killing — said to involve a robbery — took place in a district in Yangon that was under martial law. All but two of the defendants are in hiding and were tried in absentia. >The United Nations office in Myanmar said on Twitter that the violence in Bago “must cease immediately” and urged the military to let medical teams treat the wounded. I knew this was going to happen when the protestors started arming themselves with slingshots and spud cannons. Don't even know what I should say about either side, but play stupid games, win stupid prizes. You don't bring a knife to a gunfight and you don't bring slingshots (a lethal weapon) to try and intimidate guys with automatic rifles and grenade attachments.

Strelok 04/11/2021 (Sun) 21:00:13 No.14772

>>14771 >rifle grenades That's nice, but I have to wonder if it becomes the new barrel bomb. I can already see the media going on about it until the Bidet-Kamehameha administration adds the ability to launch rifle grenades to the list of features in a new AWB ban.

Strelok 04/11/2021 (Sun) 21:37:28 No.14773

>>14772 >I have to wonder if it becomes the new barrel bomb. Improvised rifle grenades made out of cans soon?

Strelok 04/12/2021 (Mon) 00:41:37 No.14779

>>14772 >until the Bidet-Kamehameha administration adds the ability to launch rifle grenades to the list of features in a new AWB ban. Weren't grenade spigots already on the last one? I assume they'll carry over most of the same feature list.

Strelok 04/12/2021 (Mon) 09:59:39 No.14797

>>14773 Those were actually used in Syria, and then there was also this thing: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/02/19/improvised-rifle-mounted-autocannon-bullet-launcher/

Strelok 04/15/2021 (Thu) 12:03:07 No.14951

>>14772 That technically isn't a SKS, sterlok.

Strelok 04/18/2021 (Sun) 00:27:59 No.14990

Myanmar releases prisoners for New Year https://archive.is/N00dn (don't bother it's western propaganda, just including it for posterity since I stole a few lines from their article) https://archive.is/qsZPp >Authorities in Myanmar will release 23,184 prisoners from jails across the country on Saturday under a New Year amnesty, a Prisons Department spokesman said. >The releases were announced on the state broadcaster, MRTV, which said the junta chief, Min Aung Hlaing, had pardoned 23,047 prisoners, including 137 foreigners who will be deported. He also reduced sentences for others. >But few, if any, democracy activists arrested since the February 1 coup are expected to be among them. >Saturday is the first day of the traditional New Year in Myanmar and the last day of a five-day holiday usually celebrated with visits to Buddhist temples and rowdy water throwing and partying in the streets. >Pro-democracy activists called for the cancellation of the festivities this year and instead for people to focus on a campaign to restore democracy after the military ousted the elected civilian government. >"These detainees are mostly from before February 1 but there are also some who were imprisoned after," Prisons Department spokesman Kyaw Tun Oo told Reuters by telephone. >Asked if any of those being freed might have been detained in connection with the protests against military rule, he said he did not have details of the amnesties. >Detainees released on Saturday from Insein prison in Yangon included at least three political prisoners jailed in 2019, said witnesses and local reports. >The three are members of the Peacock Generation performance troupe who were arrested during that year’s new year celebrations for skits that poked fun at military representatives in parliament and military involvement in business. >Their traditional style of acting is called Thangyat, a mashup of poetry, comedy and music with a sharp undertone of satire. Several members of the troupe were convicted under a law banning circulation of information that could endanger or demoralise members of the military. The actors may have particularly angered the military because they performed in army uniforms. >Another freed prisoner was Ross Dunkley, an Australian newspaper entrepreneur sentenced in 2019 to 13 years in prison for drug possession. His release was confirmed by his ex-wife, Cynda Johnston, reported the Sydney Morning Herald newspaper. >Early prisoner releases are customary during major holidays in Myanmar and this is the second batch the ruling junta has announced since taking power. >After the release of more than 23,000 convicts to mark Union Day on 12 February, there were reports on social media that some were recruited by the authorities to carry out violence at night in residential areas to spread panic, especially by setting fires. Some areas responded by setting up their own neighbourhood watch groups. >In March, more than 600 people who were imprisoned for protesting against the February coup were released from Insein prison, a rare conciliatory gesture by the military that appeared aimed at placating the protest movement. >Those freed were mostly young people caught up in sweeps of street demonstrations, while those considered protest leaders were kept locked up. >Neither the military government nor those opposed to it show any signs of backing off from their struggle for power. Western nations have tried to pressure the military through diplomatic and economic sanctions with little effect. >Myanmar’s south-east Asian neighbours, concerned about regional instability, are trying to get the junta on the path to restoring democracy, or at least end its violent repression. >A spokesperson for Thailand’s foreign ministry said Min Aung Hlaing had confirmed he would attend a summit meeting of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations on 24 April. >Tanee Sangrat said in a text message to journalists that Brunei, the current chair of the 10-nation body, confirmed it had proposed the date for a meeting at the group’s secretariat in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta. Indonesia has taken the lead in calling for the special meeting to discuss the Myanmar crisis.

Strelok 04/20/2021 (Tue) 01:06:42 No.15011

Myanmar military junta arrests prominent trade union leader https://archive.is/sxc3B >One of Myanmar’s leading trade union leaders has been arrested as part of escalating attacks on anti-military figures by the military junta. >Daw Myo Aye, director of Solidarity Trade Union of Myanmar (STUM), one of Myanmar’s largest independent unions, is a central figure in the movement for workers’ rights. >She has been one of the most prominent union leaders in the civil disobedience movement, which has been organising national strikes and protests since the military seized power from the democratically elected government of Aung San Suu Kyi in February. >Myo Aye was dragged from her office by the army last Thursday and taken to a police station where she has been charged and detained. According to the union, she is due to be transferred to a prison in Yangon. >“We lost our pillar,” said a member of staff at STUM. “But … we are going to operate with the remaining staff. We operate within the law and we provide assistance to workers in accordance with the labour law. Our organisation will not collapse because she is not here.” >According to the latest figures from the Assistance Association for Political Prisoners (Burma), 737 people have been killed by the military, and 3,229 individuals are detained or have been sentenced. >Chue Thwel, Daw Myo Aye’s daughter, said: “Since the beginning of the coup on 1 February, I thought they would come for her … I feel they arrested her to set an example.” >A spokesperson for the Worker Rights Consortium, a labour rights monitoring organisation, said: “With many labour leaders already in hiding or exile, the military’s arrest of Daw Myo Aye poses a serious challenge to the vital role of the Myanmar labour movement in the struggle to restore democracy.” Ex-U.N. chief Ban urges Guterres to engage directly with Myanmar army https://archive.is/4ZcFD >Former U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon urged his successor on Monday to engage directly with Myanmar's military to prevent an increase in post-coup violence and said southeast Asian countries should not dismiss the turmoil as an internal issue for Myanmar. >U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres' special envoy on Myanmar, Christine Schraner Burgener, has communicated with the military since it ousted an elected government led by Aung San Suu Kyi on Feb. 1, but the army has not allowed her to visit. >Guterres told the Security Council on Monday that a "robust international response grounded on a unified regional effort" was needed, urging "regional actors to leverage their influence to prevent further deterioration and, ultimately, find a peaceful way out of this catastrophe." >The 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) has been trying to find a way out of the violence tearing at fellow member Myanmar. Junta chief Min Aung Hlaing is due to attend an ASEAN summit in Indonesia on April 24. >"ASEAN must make it clear to the Myanmar military that the current situation is so grave that it cannot be regarded only as an internal matter," said Ban, a former South Korean foreign minister who is now a member of The Elders global leaders group. >"The military's use of lethal force and the gross violations of human rights being perpetrated against the civilians are not compatible with the ASEAN Charter," he said. "These actions are clear violations of international law, and constitute a threat to the peace, security and stability of the region." >Ban also urged the Security Council to move beyond statements to collective action. However, some diplomats say Russia and China are likely to prevent any stronger action.

Strelok 04/20/2021 (Tue) 01:24:37 No.15012

>>15011 >UN Nothing shows off their incompetence more then a near cold war situation where the security council is split and will never move itself. Of course it just means the individual countries have to do all the work, which makes the UN pointless if all the actions are done without it. More interesting then the UN is how Myanmar seems to be playing two sides with India and China both trying to gain favor with the junta. I can see that being their sole reason to stay in existence if both regional powers are playing nice and allowing the Junta to stay in power in return for favors.

Strelok 04/20/2021 (Tue) 01:25:27 No.15013

Outcry in Myanmar as military airs images of ‘tortured’ detainees https://archive.is/gAXAT >A monitoring group in Myanmar has appealed for international action, expressing concern over the torture and murder of anti-coup protesters in the Southeast Asian nation after the military broadcast images of six young detainees bearing severe signs of abuse. >The six detainees were arrested on Sunday in Yankin, a suburb of Myanmar’s biggest city, Yangon, according to MRTV. >The MRTV announcer said the six had been involved in a bombing on Saturday at 2pm (07:30 GMT), outside the Yankin government office in which three government soldiers had been injured. >Amid continuing protests, killings and mass arrests, the United Nations has warned the situation in Myanmar may be heading “towards a full-blown conflict” – similar to the civil war gripping Syria in the Middle East. >Kim Jolliffe, a researcher on Myanmar civilian and military relations, said the military’s decision to broadcast images of the six detainees was aimed at sowing fear. >“The Myanmar junta’s strategy from start to finish is based on the same gambit: ‘We can be more brutal than you. We can be more shockingly hurtful and terrifying than you’,” Jolliffe said in a tweet. “That is all they have. But it knows no bounds.” >ASEAN has been trying to find a way out of the turmoil wracking Myanmar but the military has shown little willingness to engage with its neighbours and no sign of wanting to talk to members of the former civilian government. >A Thai government official said on Saturday that Min Aung Hlaing would attend an ASEAN summit in Indonesia on April 24, his first meeting with foreign leaders since he seized power. >ASEAN’s invite has prompted outrage in Myanmar, however, with a newly formed National Unity Government – made up of deposed members of the elected parliament and other opponents of the military – appealing to the regional bloc to negotiate with it instead of the military. >Aung San Suu Kyi, 75, has not been seen in public since her detention on the day of the coup. >She now faces a raft of criminal charges that could see her barred for life from office. Myanmar junta cracks down on celebrations of new shadow govt https://archive.is/T5CdC >Security forces in Myanmar used violence on Monday against demonstrators who sought to celebrate last week’s formation of a shadow government to serve as an alternative to the military junta that has held power since a February coup. >Myanmar media and posts on social networks said the violence was especially intense in Myingyan, a town in central Myanmar >Marches were held in Mandalay, the country’s second biggest city, and elsewhere to show support for the “National Unity Government” announced Friday by protest leaders. Security forces reportedly broke up a march at dawn in Mandalay that included Buddhist monks. >Another news site, Myanmar Now, said security forces on Sunday launched attacks in Myingyan with the main target being a street stronghold set up by protesters, some believed armed with hunting rifles. >It said the stronghold, fortified with sandbags, was destroyed by government forces, rebuilt overnight and then destroyed again Monday morning. >Setting up street barricades is one of the tactics used by protesters. Often the strongholds last for just a few hours before being captured and destroyed by police and soldiers, then are rebuilt overnight. >Their defenders use homemade weapons, such as gasoline bombs, and security personnel respond with overwhelming force, frequently resulting in multiple fatalities. >The military has issued widely circulated wanted lists of more that 200 protest supporters -- including actors, internet influencers and medical personnel -- accused of endangering public order, a charge punishable by up to three years in prison. Arrests are also highly publicized. >government television stations on Sunday night showed photos of young people who had been arrested, looking badly bruised. The reports said they were accused of carrying out a series of explosions on Saturday in Yangon, the country’s biggest city. Their supporters charged they were tortured in custody. >On Friday, the protest movement advanced on the political front with its declaration of the National Unity Government, including members of Suu Kyi’s ousted Cabinet and representatives of ethnic minority groups and other allies. >Opponents of the coup had been seeking an alliance with ethnic minority groups as a way of strengthening their resistance. The minorities have kept up on-again, off-again armed struggles for greater autonomy in borderlands for decades. >In the north, armed guerrillas of the Kachin Independence Organization have launched a series of attacks on government military outposts, while the Karen National Union in the east, on the border with Thailand, has offered shelter to fleeing protesters in the territory it controls.

Strelok 04/20/2021 (Tue) 02:12:58 No.15014

>>15012 It looks like ASEAN is the only real hope to find some sort of stability in the region, and right now Myanmar activists are treating them the same way they treated China when the Chinese tried to intervene/help stabilize the country around the beginning of March. The Burmese military are clearly not the good guys, but they at least seem to be more interested in Myanmar's interests rather than the international community's interests, and are making efforts to work with their neighbors (Thailand fuckery aside). >which makes the UN pointless if all the actions are done without it. I mean they always have been. In a way that's a feature since a unified UN front means someone is trying to really fuck up world hegemony, and Myanmar only really affects India/Thailand/China/Bangladesh. The only thing Bangladesh seems to give a shit about is trying to make the Myanmar Junta take back all their Islamic rapefugees since they're sick and tired of housing/feeding the rats. Speaking of which... Bangladesh calls on Southeast Asia to pressure Myanmar to take back the Rohingya refugees https://archive.is/yF7fn >Bangladesh hopes that Southeast Asian nations will put pressure on Myanmar to repatriate displaced Rohingya and bring them home, according to the foreign minister. >AK Abdul Momen said Bangladesh has been bearing the burden of the Rohingya Muslims, who have been seeking shelter in the South Asian country after a mass exodus due to a brutal crackdown by the Myanmar army in 2017. >The Rohingya are a persecuted Muslim minority from Rakhine state in western Myanmar. While there have been large migrations of Rohingya to Bangladesh since the 1970s, none was as quick and massive as the August 2017 exodus. >"Around 1.1 million persecuted Rohingyas are now being sheltered in Bangladesh," Momen told CNBC's "Streets Signs Asia" on Monday. "Our priority is that these Rohingya persecuted people should go back to their home for a decent living," he said. >Bangladesh took in the Rohingya out of humanitarian consideration, but the South Asian nation is now "facing difficulty with them," said Momen. He hopes that the member states of ASEAN — or the Association of South East Asian Nations — will play a strong role in the upcoming summit in getting Myanmar's military government to take back the refugees. >"Now that the Myanmar government has been invited by ASEAN (to) the summit in Indonesia, this is good news. At least they will go there and then maybe they will be pressurized by ASEAN, hopefully, to take their people back," Momen said. >While Bangladesh's foreign minister did not take a stance on the latest military coup, he emphasized that his government wants stability to return to Myanmar. Sorry, I tried pulling the video from them but they're using some JS bullshit and I can't seem to get it to download as it transfers the data to view it. Have an alternative video off of Jewtube covering more or less the same crap.

Strelok 04/20/2021 (Tue) 02:24:57 No.15015

>>15013 >Attempted bombings of government buildings >Injured soldiers >Bruised-up female detainees Yep, they were definitely raped.

Strelok 04/20/2021 (Tue) 03:32:05 No.15016

>>15013

Strelok 04/20/2021 (Tue) 12:24:09 No.15023

>>15016 wtf you stole the post i was going to make

Strelok 04/20/2021 (Tue) 14:26:59 No.15025

>>15016 Oh no, the real world doesn't work like my young adult fiction novels!

Strelok 04/20/2021 (Tue) 16:54:13 No.15026

>>15016 >left side >dead eyes, devoid of any emotion >puppet hair >caked on makeup that doesn't even hide the bag under her eye >right side >sad eyes, meaning she can still feel human emotion >normal looking hair >tired but more healthy looking face >looks like all that she needs is a good dicking

Strelok 04/20/2021 (Tue) 17:44:50 No.15029

>>15026 I imagine a good dicking is what the military police gave her for injuring their comrades. Probably also explains the black eye from resisting.

Strelok 04/20/2021 (Tue) 18:02:05 No.15030

>>15016 they fucked her brown that's impressive

Strelok 04/22/2021 (Thu) 23:03:54 No.15108

Chevron Lobbies to Head Off New Sanctions on Myanmar The oil company is arguing against efforts to restrict its involvement in a gas operation in Myanmar that provides funding for the junta there. https://archive.is/af8WB >U.S. oil giant Chevron Corp lobbied lawmakers and government officials to protect its energy interests in Myanmar during the first quarter, as the administration of President Joe Biden comes under pressure to impose sanctions against the south Asian country’s military junta, according to federal disclosures. >Chevron is among a handful of international oil and gas companies with big stakes in Myanmar’s energy riches, which have become a crucial source of revenue for military rulers who seized power in February and imposed a bloody crackdown on political protests. >According to the lobbying disclosures, Chevron spent $2,170,000 on lobbying in the United States in the first three months of 2021. That work included discussions with lawmakers and officials in the State Department, the Department of Commerce and the National Security Council on issues in several countries including Myanmar, according to the filings. >Biden administration officials did not immediately comment on the lobbying. >Chevron’s holdings in Myanmar include a 28.3% stake in the Yadana natural gas field and a 28.3% stake in a pipeline that carries Burmese gas to Thailand. >A Chevron spokesman declined to comment on the details of its lobbying or the sanctions pressure, but said that shutting down the Yadana field would "could adversely affect its future production potential. >"It is a mature field that requires ongoing maintenance to maintain safety and future production," Chevron spokesman Braden Reddall said in an email. >The company has been disclosing payments to the government of Myanmar via the Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative (EITI), a global initiative to increase transparency in international business. According to EITI data, Chevron paid around $50 million to Myanmar between 2014 and 2018. >Human rights group have been urging international oil companies, including Chevron, Total, Woodside Petroleum, and others, to cut their ties to Myanmar Opposition to the military’s coup has boosted ethnic armed groups, creating a new challenge to its lucrative jade and gems business. The military has been battling resistance to the coup including in Hpakant, the centre of the jade mining industry in northern Kachin state. https://archive.is/n7s9Y >Life in Myanmar’s jade-producing regions was always difficult and precarious, but since the military seized power from the civilian government on February 1, it has become even more dangerous. >In Kachin State’s Hpakant township, which has the world’s largest and most lucrative jade mines, there are more soldiers and police, access to mining sites has become more difficult and local markets have stopped operating. >“Many places are dangerous to dig jade now. There are only a few places where we can dig by hand or small machine,” said Sut Naw, a local miner who preferred to use a pseudonym for security reasons. >Police and soldiers are now guarding company compounds, he added, patrolling roads day and night. They also stop people on the streets or in their vehicles, checking for jade and other valuables and searching through people’s phones for evidence of resistance to the coup. >The military has long dominated Myanmar’s jade industry and continues to rake in immense profits. Myanmar’s annual jade and gems emporium, held from April 1 to 10, brought in $6.5m on the sixth day alone, according to state media. >“There is a huge risk that the military, in their desperate efforts to maintain control, will look to the country’s natural resource wealth to sustain their rule, to buy weapons, and enrich themselves,” said Keel Dietz, a Myanmar policy adviser with Global Witness >Escalating clashes between the Kachin Independence Army, the armed wing of an ethnic armed group in the resource-rich northern state and the military, known as the Tatmadaw, have raised questions over the control over the jade mines. >Shortly after winning elections in 2015, the National League for Democracy (NLD) led by Aung San Suu Kyi pledged to reform the industry and in August 2016, suspended the renewal of mining licenses and the issuance of new ones. >Clashes have been taking place nearly every day. The KIA, so far, appears to have the upper hand – it has taken several Tatmadaw bases and claims to have obliterated entire battalions, killing hundreds of soldiers. >Some of the most intense fighting has occurred in and around Hpakant >On March 28, the KIA killed about 30 policemen who had raided a jade mining site operated by the Taut Pa Kyal mining company, according to Kachin State-based media reports. >Local news agencies reported on April 15 that the KIA and Tatmadaw had clashed in Mogok, a city that harvests rubies in the Mandalay region hundreds of miles from Kachin State.

Strelok 04/22/2021 (Thu) 23:26:08 No.15110

>>15108 >armed conflict over minerals When does this break into a civil war in Minecraft?

Strelok 04/23/2021 (Fri) 00:16:53 No.15115

>>15110 >Armed protestors making compounds >Ethnic armies gaining territory in money-making outskirt regions >Ousted government officials have made military alliances with ethnic minority armies that oppose the junta >UN Envoy and other ousted politicians abroad being kicked out of their embassies >ASEAN summit in two days in which presumably they're asking the Junta to negotiate/the Junta is going to ask them to reach a compromise >Mass sanctions from Western countries >Western news media makes sure to parrot that this is an illegal coup to the point that I have to make modifications to the news articles I post to keep them neutral or at least /k/-slanted The civil war already began, Strelok.

Strelok 04/24/2021 (Sat) 12:09:05 No.15153

>>15115 Burma is lucky that it's a mountainous and jungle shithole. Really difficult to invade. All they need is to get support from 1 Great Power and they'll hold

Strelok 04/24/2021 (Sat) 21:00:00 No.15164

SE Asian nations say consensus reached on ending Myanmar crisis https://archive.is/JeaUe https://archive.is/SnYvS >Southeast Asian leaders said they had agreed on a plan with Myanmar’s junta chief on Saturday to end the crisis in the violence-hit nation, but he did not explicitly respond to demands to halt the killing of civilian protesters. >"It's beyond our expectation," Malaysian Prime Minister Muhyiddin Yassin told reporters after the leaders' meeting of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) that was also attended by Myanmar's Senior General Min Aung Hlaing. >"We tried not to accuse his side too much because we don't care who's causing it," Muhyiddin added. "We just stressed that the violence must stop. For him, it's the other side that's causing the problems. But he agreed that violence must stop." >According to a statement from group chair Brunei, a consensus was reached on five points - ending violence, a constructive dialogue among all parties, a special ASEAN envoy to facilitate the dialogue, acceptance of aid and a visit by the envoy to Myanmar. There was no mention of releasing political prisoners in the statement. >"He did not reject what was put forward by me and many other colleagues," Muhyiddin said. >"He said he (Min Aung Hlaing) heard us, he would take the point in, which he considered helpful," Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong told reporters. >“There is a tremendous expectation on the part of the international community on how ASEAN is addressing the Myanmar issue. The pressure is increasing,” Muhyiddin said, and added that the current ASEAN chairman, Brunei Prime Minister Hassanal Bolkiah, and the regional bloc’s secretary general should be allowed access to Myanmar to meet contending parties, encourage dialogue and come up with “an honest and unbiased observation.” >Such a political dialogue “can only take place with the prompt and unconditional release of political detainees,” the Malaysian premier said. >It was not clear why Lee and Hassanal referred to the release of political prisoners when this was not in the consensus statement. >There was no immediate comment from Min Aung Hlaing. >A regular nighttime news bulletin on the military-run Myawaddy TV reported his attendance of the meeting and said Myanmar would closely cooperate with ASEAN on various issues, including "the political transition in Myanmar, and the process that will be implemented in the future". >The leaders of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations also told Senior Gen. Min Aung Hlaing during the two-hour talks in Jakarta that a dialogue between contending parties in Myanmar should immediately start, with the help of ASEAN envoys, Indonesian President Joko Widodo said. >Myanmar's parallel National Unity Government (NUG), comprised of pro-democracy figures, remnants of Suu Kyi's ousted administration and representatives of armed ethnic groups, said it welcomed the consensus reached but the junta had to be held to its promises. >It was unusual for the leader of a military government in Myanmar to attend an ASEAN summit - usually the country has been represented by a lower-ranked officer or a civilian. >While ASEAN's non-interference policy makes it difficult to tackle contentious issues, the body is seen by the United Nations, China and the United States as best placed to deal with the junta directly. >ASEAN’s diversity, including the divergent ties of many of its members to either China or the United States, along with a bedrock policy of non-interference in each other’s domestic affairs and deciding by consensus, has hobbled the bloc’s ability to rapidly deal with crises. >The messages conveyed to Min Aung Hlaing were unusually blunt and could be seen as a breach of the conservative 10-nation bloc’s bedrock principle forbidding member states from interfering in each other’s domestic affairs. But Malaysian Prime Minister Muhyiddin Yassin said that policy should not lead to inaction if a domestic situation “jeopardizes the peace, security, and stability of ASEAN and the wider region” and there is international clamor for resolute action. >A formal statement issued by ASEAN through Brunei after the summit outlined the demands made by the heads of state in more subtle terms. It asked for the “immediate cessation of violence in Myanmar” and urged all parties to “exercise utmost restraint,” but omitted the demand voiced by Widodo and other leaders for the immediate release of political detainees. It said ASEAN would provide humanitarian aid to Myanmar. >Critics have said ASEAN’s decision to meet the coup leader was unacceptable. >Indonesian police dispersed dozens of protesters opposing the coup and the junta leader’s visit. More than 4,300 police fanned out across the Indonesian capital to secure the meetings, held under strict safeguards amid the pandemic. >The leaders of Thailand and the Philippines skipped the summit, delegating to their subordinates. >>15153 China's siding with ASEAN right now and wants Myanmar to cut the crap after their factories got destroyed. Burma is really on their own on this one.

Strelok 04/24/2021 (Sat) 21:29:23 No.15168

>>15164 It'll be entertaining as long as it ends in a massacre.

Strelok 04/25/2021 (Sun) 19:22:38 No.15192

>>15168 I mean from the sounds of it, Min Aung Hlaing basically told them what they wanted to hear and plans to get right back to what he was doing. He didn't agree to any negotiations involving political prisons, he didn't agree to end the violence, all he said was "yeah we don't want to be at war with these rebellious youth either, sure you can come in if you think you can act as negotiators." From the very start I don't think the Myanmar military actually wanted a civil war, they were just securing their power from an old cunt trying to depose them in favor of foreign investors, and then watched people flip shit when the narrative turned it into a military coup. I imagine they probably intended to return control of the political process to the civilians as their initial statements suggested before all this shit happened, and being stuck in their ways, the only real response they could give was brutalism to try to make the civilian sector shut the fuck up. Whether that's morally/ethically right or wrong isn't up to me to decide, but I don't honestly believe this "coup" was ever intended to be long-term.

Strelok 04/25/2021 (Sun) 19:54:29 No.15193

>>15164 Followup confirming the fun will continue. Myanmar activists slam ASEAN-junta consensus, vow to continue protests https://archive.is/3Mtc0 https://archive.is/OIeId Myanmar's pro-democracy activists sharply criticized an agreement between the country's junta chief and Southeast Asian leaders to end the nation's violent post-coup crisis and vowed on Sunday to continue their protest campaign. >Some scattered riots took place in Myanmar's big cities on Sunday, a day after the meeting of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) with Senior General Min Aung Hlaing in Jakarta, Indonesia, reached a consensus to end the turmoil in the country, but gave no timeline. >In the final statement at the end of Saturday's meeting, the language on freeing political prisoners had been unexpectedly watered down and did not contain a firm call for their release >The "five-point consensus" in the chairman's statement at the end of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) meeting did not refer to freeing political detainees. However, the statement separately mentioned that the summit "heard calls" for their release. The summit was attended by Myanmar's junta leader Min Aung Hlaing. >The absence of a strong position on this issue caused dismay among human rights activists and opponents of the coup, fuelling criticism by them that the meeting had achieved little in the way of reining in the country's military leaders. >The five consensus points, however, include an undertaking for "all parties" in Myanmar to be involved in dialogue. >The other points of consensus were an end to violence, a special ASEAN envoy, humanitarian assistance and a visit by a delegation to Myanmar to "meet all parties concerned". >"Whether it is ASEAN or the U.N., they will only speak from outside saying don't fight but negotiate and solve the issues. But that doesn't reflect Myanmar's ground situation," said Khin Sandar from a resistance group called the General Strikes Collaboration Committee. >"We will continue the protests. We have plans to do so," she told Reuters by phone. >According to a statement from ASEAN chair Brunei, a consensus was reached in Jakarta on five points - ending violence, a constructive dialogue among all parties, a special ASEAN envoy to facilitate the dialogue, acceptance of aid and a visit by the envoy to Myanmar. >The five-point consensus did not mention political prisoners, although the chairman's statement said the meeting "heard calls" for their release. >"We realized that whatever the outcome from the ASEAN meeting, it will not reflect what people want," said Wai Aung a protest organizer in Yangon. "We will keep up protests and strikes till the military regime completely fails." >"ASEAN's statement is a slap on the face of the people who have been abused, killed and terrorized by the military," said a Facebook user called Mawchi Tun. "We do not need your help with that mindset and approach." >Phil Robertson, deputy Asia director of Human Rights Watch, said it was unfortunate that only the junta chief represented Myanmar at the meeting. >Phil Robertson also said political prisoners would need to be "involved in any negotiated solution to the crisis". >"Not only were the representatives of the Myanmar people not invited to the Jakarta meeting but they also got left out of the consensus that ASEAN is now patting itself on the back for reaching," he said in a statement. >Myanmar's parallel National Unity Government (NUG), comprised of pro-democracy figures, remnants of Suu Kyi's ousted administration and representatives of armed ethnic groups, said it welcomed the consensus reached but added the junta had to be held to its promises. >Besides the junta chief, the leaders of Indonesia, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia, Cambodia and Brunei were at the meeting, along with the foreign ministers of Laos, Thailand and the Philippines. The NUG was not invited but spoke privately to some of the participating countries before the meeting. >At the summit, leaders and their representatives gave speeches on the situation in Myanmar, with coup leader Ming Aung Hlaing presenting his views last, said Singapore's Prime Minister Lee Hsieh Loong. >"He said he heard us, he would take the points in which he considered helpful," Lee said.

Strelok 04/27/2021 (Tue) 14:28:07 No.15234

>Karen ethnic rebels capture Burmese military base on Thai border The memes are amplifying again.

Strelok 04/28/2021 (Wed) 02:30:48 No.15260

>>15234 I'll never get over the fact that they're called Karens. Makes me chuckle every time.

Strelok 04/28/2021 (Wed) 03:02:37 No.15262

FNN had a nice photo collage of recent events so I'm stealing it. >1. The 19-year-old said he was repeatedly beaten while held in military detention. >2. His back shows the scars from being whipped with cable wires, after he was released from military detention. >3. The 19-year-old said he was detained after soldiers found images on his phone of him at protests. >4. An undated photo of dance teacher Khin Nyein Thu. >5. A former army cadet from Myanmar's military who defected across the border to India after being ordered to take part in raids and beatings of protesters.

Strelok 04/28/2021 (Wed) 03:14:25 No.15264

Nevermind, thought there was only like 20 images, there's actually 106, so just have an archive link: https://archive.is/XfyBq

Strelok 04/28/2021 (Wed) 03:25:58 No.15265

>Images didn't post

Strelok 04/28/2021 (Wed) 12:25:34 No.15272

>>15260 I feel sorry for them, they just want to speak with the country's management.

Strelok 04/28/2021 (Wed) 18:54:38 No.15302

to what extent has the internet been shutdown, is it just at certain times? they can still get photos and videos out

Strelok 04/28/2021 (Wed) 23:59:04 No.15304

>>15302 Officially as of the beginning of April, Myanmar has banned all wireless communications (radio, wifi, 4G, etc.) that are not for military use (since this is how the rebel groups communicate). All hardwired connections have mandatory overnight blackouts at the ISP level from curfew until the next morning and in theory are only supposed to be used by banks, large corporations, and government institutions. People using the few and far between hardwire connections are using them over tor, VPNs, etc. Journalists began to be arrested and shot at as regular protests about two weeks ago, which is why almost all of the photos in that CNN article are post-dated April 12th or earlier since most news agencies either pulled out or had their journalists pull out for them when they started getting shot at/tortured.

Strelok 04/29/2021 (Thu) 02:14:36 No.15305

>>15304 So much for freedom of the press checking tyranny.

Strelok 04/29/2021 (Thu) 02:16:31 No.15306

>>15305 This is Myanmar. They don't have freedom of the press. They never even signed the international conventions banning torture, anon.

Strelok 04/29/2021 (Thu) 02:42:49 No.15310

>>15305 >So much for freedom of the press checking tyranny. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt friend, and not assume you're some laughable neoLib cuck or some kind of glownigger gayop and just say >LOL what a farce Back when Benjamin Franklin was an important part of the press, it may have served some good purpose. For the past 150 years or so, it's primary aim has been to support the globalist kikes in their usurpation of every White nation's natural lords. BTW, you're not some kind of golem for the globalist kikes are you friend?

Strelok 04/29/2021 (Thu) 02:48:01 No.15311

>>15304 All they really needed to do was simply fully block two sites: (((Kikebook))) and (((Twatter))). The Fucking CIA Niggers utilize those two platforms for this kind of rabblerousing far, far more than any others. They were stupid not to pull those two plugs from day one, and then everything else would have proceeded as normal. No muss, no fuss.

Strelok 04/29/2021 (Thu) 03:14:56 No.15312

>>15311 Most American social media sites including Facebook, Instagram Twitter, Wikipedia, and most of the major news organizations were already blocked in Myanmar before this point. They banned them all on February 6th. The coup happened February 1st.

Strelok 04/29/2021 (Thu) 03:32:11 No.15313

>>15312 Certainly a good idea. Mind providing some sauce Strelok?

Strelok 04/29/2021 (Thu) 03:45:10 No.15314

>>15310 I'm pointing out that the global media is just a bunch of spineless grifters that are just there to be tourists, take photos, sell tall tales; when the shit hits the fan they scatter like the rats they are. They go around to the UN, the NGOs, they preach to the choir about how necessary they are, but they are just spineless cowards looking to make a quick buck. They use the reputation of men with far greater character than they like Franklin to justify their existence, pretending like they inherited that tradition of principled defense of rights and liberty unto death, but the fibre of the worst shitposter on /k/ has more mettle than them. And all this before taking into account that they sell any values they do have to be a mouthpiece for those that pay them.

Strelok 04/29/2021 (Thu) 03:56:03 No.15315

>>15313 >Mind providing some sauce Strelok? Myanmar’s new military government orders to temporarily block internet access Tech Crunch: https://archive.is/YoI5U TheVerge: https://archive.is/0t27i Myanmar blocks Twitter amid outrage at coup DW: https://archive.is/uh1zq All of this happened during the /100rads/ period of the Burma discussion.

Strelok 04/29/2021 (Thu) 04:18:44 No.15316

>>15315 I see, good move you ask me. But then again, presuming that was actually true and not just corporate-controlled media hysterics posturing, why were all those sites filled with eye-witness images and accounts then?

Strelok 04/29/2021 (Thu) 04:31:03 No.15318

>>15316 Are there not still foreign journalists and embassies in Myanmar? It would behoove the West to acquire and disseminate these images both inside and outside the country to undermine the junta.

Strelok 04/29/2021 (Thu) 05:10:14 No.15319

>>15316 Why were all those sites filled with eye-witness images and accounts then? See >>15318 and third image from >>15193 Thailand is pro-west, Bangladesh is anti-Burma even if they aren't pro-west, and all of the news articles either take place in Yangon which has plenty of banking hardwired internet lines to run VPS services through, several days late out of the ethnic minority northern regions, or along the Thailand border. If you look past the major news outlets which just parrot whatever hearsay comes out of Yangon/Thailand, the stories are typically about a week or two apart and rarely "breaking news" suggesting a journalist is gathering scoops and then crossing the border to report them, such as the torture cases that have been emerging.

Strelok 04/29/2021 (Thu) 05:37:33 No.15320

>>15153 It seems I was wrong in >>15164 it would appear Russia is actually backing Burma based on this opinion piece. Since it's an opinion piece I'm not going to bother with my usual cleaning-up to make it more neutral. Why Russia is betting on Myanmar’s military junta Authors: Artyom Lukin, Far Eastern Federal University and Andrey Gubin, Russian Institute for Strategic Studies https://archive.is/FmwD3 >On 1 February 2021, Myanmar’s military junta declared a state of emergency and seized power from the civilian government led by Aung San Suu Kyi. The coup immediately created a political crisis and resulted in mass bloodshed, but the international response has been divided. >While the US-led West and its key Asian allies such as Japan and South Korea condemn the coup and imposed sanctions on the junta, other key powers are more ambivalent. In the UN Security Council, China, India and Russia have made efforts to shield the perpetrators from harsher censure and potential UN sanctions. >From the very beginning Russia has refused to condemn the coup, with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs merely expressing hope for ‘a peaceful settlement of the situation through the resumption of political dialogue’. In the same statement, Moscow noted as an encouraging sign that the military intended to hold a new parliamentary election. Russian state-owned news agency RIA Novosti justified the coup by arguing that the Myanmar army, the Tatmadaw, is the only viable guarantor of the multi-ethnic country’s unity and peace. >The most visible manifestation of Russian support for the junta came in late March, when Deputy Minister of Defence Alexander Fomin became the highest-ranking foreign official to attend Myanmar’s Armed Forces Day parade in the capital Naypyidaw. While the military was violently cracking down on protestors, Fomin held talks with junta leader Senior General Min Aung Hlaing. He called Myanmar ‘Russia’s reliable ally and strategic partner in Southeast Asia and the Asia Pacific’ and emphasised that Moscow ‘adheres to the strategic course of enhancing relations between the two countries’. >There are several reasons why Russia is emerging as the most high-profile supporter of the Myanmar military government. >Moscow’s close ties with Myanmar date back to the 1950s. Given that for most of its modern history the Southeast Asian country has been governed by the military, Russia has developed a working relationship with its uniformed rulers. Incumbent strongman general Min Aung Hlaing has visited Russia on numerous occasions, most recently in June 2020 to attend the Victory Day parade in Moscow, and is known as a champion of Myanmar–Russia ties. >Under Min Aung Hlaing, Myanmar–Russia military cooperation has received a boost. After China, Russia is the country’s second largest supplier of arms, being the source of at least 16 per cent of weaponry procured by Myanmar from 2014–2019. Myanmar’s military is now awaiting the delivery of six Su-30 fighter jets ordered in 2019, and in January 2021 the two sides signed contracts for a Russian air defence system and a suite of surveillance drones. >Thousands of Myanmar’s military officers have also received training in Russia’s military academies. Tellingly, the Myanmar commander-in-chief maintains an official account on Russia’s VK social network while being banned from Facebook and Twitter. It is not coincidental that the Kremlin’s main interlocutor with Myanmar is defence minister Sergey Shoigu, who happened to visit the country just several days before the 1 February coup. >Given this long-standing and profitable relationship with the Myanmar military, it stands to reason that Russia is not going to condemn the coup, let alone sanction the junta. Russian President Vladimir Putin has never been known for his sympathies for pro-democracy movements backed by the West, and the Kremlin hardly sees the English-educated Aung Sang Suu Kyi, whose two sons are British nationals, as a desirable alternative to uniformed rulers. >Moscow’s support for a military dictatorship could damage its international reputation, but with what has already transpired between Putin and the West, the Kremlin could hardly care less about its reputational fallout from Myanmar. In defence of its stance on Myanmar, Russia could also point to Western hypocrisy — neighbouring Thailand is ruled by generals with dubious democratic credentials, but the country remains in the West’s good graces due to being a ‘treaty ally’ of the United States. >It is unclear to what extent Moscow will coordinate its Myanmar policies with Beijing, Russia’s main strategic partner and a fellow autocracy. The Chinese government has refrained from condemning the military takeover, but compared to Russia it has been conspicuously less supportive — China’s relationship with the Tatmadaw has always been complicated, and Beijing is hardly happy about the coup. Article too long.

Strelok 04/29/2021 (Thu) 05:40:28 No.15321

>>15320 >Whereas Moscow’s relationship to Myanmar is mostly limited to military-to-military ties, with scant social and economic interactions, China’s relations with its southern neighbour are more multi-dimensional. Beijing cannot afford to antagonise pro-democracy segments of Myanmar’s population, so it needs to adopt a more complex approach. >Moscow and Beijing are likely discussing the situation in Myanmar, but their strategies differ. Russia is driven by the desire to keep lucrative military contracts and possibly gain a foothold in the Indian Ocean. By contrast, Beijing is guided by more long-term strategic interests dictated by Myanmar’s immediate proximity to China’s Yunnan province. >Viewing itself as a global great power, Russia has a stake in maintaining a strategic presence in Myanmar, a geopolitically important country in the Indo-Pacific. To retain and expand Russia’s links with Myanmar, the Kremlin has banked on the generals. It remains to be seen if Moscow’s calculus will turn out to be the right one. >Artyom Lukin is Associate Professor at the Oriental Institute, School of Regional and International Studies, Far Eastern Federal University, Vladivostok. >Andrey Gubin is a Senior Researcher at the Russian Institute for Strategic Studies, Moscow. Let this be a reminder to Strelok that I am just one man who looks at things from the angles presented to him, and that I am prone to mistakes. Makes sense why all of a sudden the news media picked this shit up when it was largely only international and Asian-oriented sources discussing it for months.

Strelok 04/29/2021 (Thu) 05:43:25 No.15322

Some other videos that seem to be circulating.

Strelok 04/30/2021 (Fri) 14:44:07 No.15372

Based on the types of articles floating around the last couple days, I do believe all foreign journalists have been effectively kicked out of the country or sent into hiding, so I will likely be posting fewer news articles mostly about when such journalists in hiding are captured/smuggled out to share findings, and the ones posted will probably mostly be border skirmishes where foreign actors can view the carnage unless the situation changes.

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 11:13:53 No.15385

I don't want to get too political we already seem to have a new batch of posters who see /k/ and read /pol/, but it looks like a defeat for the global democratic movement. similar to what happened with the Arab Spring. And if it turns into a civil war, then that gives more legitimacy to violence. Add in that the US doesn't seem to counter Russian and Chinese influence in Myanmar, and we can see this whole situation as one more step towards a warlike world.

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 12:14:34 No.15389

>>15385 You plainly took a wrong turning somewhere in back of you. You clearly write and think just like some neoLib, aka, some over-socialized, highly privileged and coddled White woman. Politics and weaponry are inextricably-interlinked together, and have been since pre-history. All men know this instinctively. A people that survives, survives only because it has smart, powerful men to lead them and protect them. Females are plainly worse than worthless in any kind of major leadership role over a people. With extraordinarily few exceptions in history, it's simply a recipe for emasculation of a people and their eventual destruction. Look no further than the current crash of the West (if you can take the rose-colored glasses off for a moment) as clear evidence of the evil of allowing women to be involved in politics. Let the women manage the kitchen, while barefoot and pregnant. And any so-called 'democratic movement' is anything but a positive effect on a nation or a people group. The people themselves know far better how to manage themselves than a council of ultra-rich oligarchs in Brussels and Tel-Aviv do. Don't expect /k/ to have favor on such leftist views as you obviously are espousing here. One day -- under the Kingdom to come -- we'll all be able to beat our swords into plowshares. But that day isn't today. And until it comes fighting and warfare will always tend towards conservatism and wisdom, as well it should.

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 12:45:13 No.15391

>>15389 >thinking I've endorsed democracy in that post >not understanding that /k/ is inherently pro-war >>>/reddit/

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 13:26:00 No.15393

>>15391 >Addressing one point out of the whole post. >Democracy=/=war >Doesn't even mention the other points made in the post, instantly sends to Reddit (a.k.a. Internet gulag). Did you even read his post? Or did you just forget the first half of the post while reading the second half?

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 13:35:14 No.15394

>>15385 I mean I see democracy as the god that failed so I don't see this as a bad thing since it would seem to me that Western influences aren't actually interested in protecting "democracy" but rather in using "democracy" to force Myanmar to bend the knee to globalist rule. That being said, I don't particularly like the idea of the only two factions being a group of globalist cocksuckers and a boomer-tier outdated military junta with no sense or desire for compromise. This isn't the 1970s any more but it sure looks like it seeing Burmese military doctrine up until now. The only reason I have even an inkling of support for the military junta is because I'd rather a nation that handles its own problems first and international ones second instead of a nation that uses French democracy to push for genociding ethnic groups (Muslim or not) and is in the hands of China and the USA simultaneously.

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 13:42:46 No.15395

>>15393 I've chalked up the events as a loss for globohomo, and in turn he accused me of being a woman and then started rambling about going barefoot. What the hell am I supposed to address out of all that nonsense?

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 14:37:02 No.15398

>>15395 The /pol/ & /k/ question. He pointed out that politics and weapons are intertwined. I think politics are part of a war board, If it's not explicitly reduced to the "hands-on" aspect of war, namely strategies and tactics.

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 14:54:11 No.15399

>>15389 Are you the same anon that makes everything about women? or are there more of you?

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 15:39:53 No.15402

>>15399 He's probably the anon that periodically shows up every time /k/'s PPH goes up in order to make sure it drops again.

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 15:43:16 No.15403

>>15399 I suspect it's this strelok over here >>15336 Same way of talking down to people without a strong point, though I agree that war/weapons and politics are strongly connected.

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 16:14:35 No.15404

>>15394 >I don't particularly like the idea of the only two factions being a group of globalist cocksuckers and a boomer-tier outdated military junta with no sense or desire for compromise There are also those various ethnic groups and their small armed forces, but even a cursory reading suggests that their relationships are somehow complicated and yet it's obvious that they will side with the globalist cocksuckers. At least for the time being, I can see at least a few of them trying to carve out their own independent countries, at least if the opportunity arises.

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 16:26:13 No.15405

>>15404 An independent small country inbetween Myanmar and Thailand and inbetween Myanmar and Bangladesh would be great. Issue with the Bangladesh one would inevitably demand control of the jade & ruby mines (or somehow put it in Chink hands). I can see the Karens telling the NUG to fuck off and shooting them in the back if the NUG gets any traction beyond demanding people recognize they "exist" when they're just a bunch of city children propping up ousted politicians for free.

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 16:41:05 No.15407

>>15405 >An independent small country inbetween Myanmar and Thailand and inbetween Myanmar and Bangladesh would be great. Great for whom and why? I genuinely don't know enough about the region to understand the implications and consequences.

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 17:26:07 No.15408

>>15407 Myanmar's western border is full of Muslims (that's where the genocides happened in 2017 when all the Muslims fled to Bangladesh). Thailand is a military junta aligned with America while Myanmar's military junta has military ties to Russia and economic ties to China. A buffer state between them would be a good thing for everyone except journalists. Myanmar itself is a conglomerate of different ethnic groups all packed into one swamp country because none of them are independently able to defend themselves without international backing of some kind. Images related.

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 17:37:40 No.15409

>>15408 What a fucking mess, I'll have to study the country's geography to make sense of it. But do they have any actual long-standing conflicts going back centuries; or is it simply a case of random tribes and villages being forced to exist in a single country after their areas were conquered by some ruler, and now they can't function in a Western-style state? Is there a single ethnicity (or group of related ethnicities) in charge, or is it even more complicated?

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 17:51:44 No.15410

>>15409 The Bamar and Shan can be considered the ruling groups. Only the Kachin and Karen have long-standing conflicts with the Burmese central government, and the Kachin largely don't give a shit so long as they can mine jade/rubies unhindered, which is why this current government crackdown has them up in arms. The Bamar make up 68% of the country's population with the Shan making up 9% and the Karen making up 7%. All the other groups make up 5% or less of Myanmar's population. They've swapped hands for different governments, but they've basically been a multi-ethnic set of kingdoms working together since the 1050s, got split up by the Portuguese in the 1600s, and then ganged up again to kick out the Portuguese. Then they got conquered by the East India Company in the 1800s because some British nobles likes using the country as a retirement home until the Japanese kicked them out in the 1940s. You could say it's always been a multi-ethnic region, but British and later Japanese conquerors upset the balance of power to allow the Bamar people to gain an ethnic majority foothold after World War II and they've been holding onto power since the 60s more or less uncontested outside of the Karen regions.

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 18:28:08 No.15414

>>15404 Aren't the rebel groups, at least the larger ones like the Karens, practically their own countries in all but name? It seems like a lot of those border areas are almost devoid of government control and are only significantly populated with minority rebels.

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 18:36:05 No.15415

>>15408 >>15410 This looks like a real-life Free-for-All. I hope this won't end in another puppet state of the U.S.

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 19:07:51 No.15419

>>15414 I can't speak for the others, but the Karens are to Myanmar as the Chechens are to Russia, just with smaller ethnic armies on both sides, if that helps explain things. The central Burmese military would crush the Karens under normal circumstances, but since everyone is rebelling, they can't direct their armies to any one region out of fear of another region gaining a foothold. Realistically this is a war of attrition where the longer the conflict continues, the more power the central Burmese military can consolidate/eliminate political dissidents. That's part of why the West is so eager to point out every little detail in the hopes of some politician in some western country gaining enough traction to declare war on Myanmar to justify everyone else jumping in. Myanmar's stability is important to the region because of their close proximity/sharing a border with both India and China (which is the only reason the UN hasn't called for peacekeepers to be sent to the region since it could spark a China-India conflict).

Strelok 05/01/2021 (Sat) 21:36:02 No.15433

>>15419 There's also a chance if that seem likely to happen, you'll see a minor rappoachment of India-China to keep the west out of Myanmar, mainly because they both hate the west more than each other on such an issue. Neither side is willing to see a repeat of the migrant "crisis" in the EU caused by the US blowing shit up in Syria/Libya and would prefer a semi-stable Burma to a western warlord Somalia one. Now, what would be REALLY interesting is the Chinese taking back the land they ceeded to Myamar earlier. My guess, by the ASEAN meeting with the military it's a tact Chinese/India agreement of leting the ruling juntra stay. Because Cambodia/Laos/Singapore are Chinese aligned and the rest are India/US aligned (and vietnam is just anti-china in general). So the score so far is: Junta aligned: >Russia Lean juntra >China (begrudgingly) >Thailand (Maybe) >Laos Protester aligned >EU >US >Bangladesh Lean protesters >Australia Unknown, still in the wait and see bag: >India It's gonna be a fun show in a few months lads.

Strelok 05/11/2021 (Tue) 18:47:12 No.15658

https://archive.is/QJedZ https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-myanmar-military-business/ Bloomberg ran an interesting article basically explaining how the Myanmar Junta is able to avoid sanctions because domestic industry is ran in a sort of hyper-capitalist nationalist-lite format where most of the country's core industries are partially if not fully owned by the military and where active duty and retired military are largely the shareholders as part of their benefits packages. It's apparently extremely inefficient, but because they focus on domestic goods like beer and rice where in some cases they have 60% market shared or greater, they're able to turn a hefty profit which is then distributed through the shareholders (current and former military).

Strelok 05/12/2021 (Wed) 16:31:45 No.15678

>>15658 North Korea already proved that you can run a country on nothing but starvation and military power, and now Myanmar goes even beyond that, because the military doesn't even have full control, and yet they can still rake in the money just fine. Of course, having China to trade with helps a lot, especially because they have gems to trade with, but it's still hilarious that the best US and co can do is to issue some economic sanctions and tell everyone how very concerned they are.

Strelok 05/12/2021 (Wed) 18:43:30 No.15680

>>15678 My favorite is still Thailand demanding the release of leaders/journalists while simultaneously deporting refugees back to Burma.

Strelok 05/12/2021 (Wed) 18:50:46 No.15683

>>15680 They've paid their lip service, and this is what really matters in this fucked up world.

Strelok 05/13/2021 (Thu) 01:23:04 No.15690

>>15680 https://archive.is/MTK8o >Three reporters and two activists from Myanmar have been arrested in Thailand for illegal entry and face possible deportation, the reporters' news organisation and local police said on Tuesday. >Broadcaster DVB (Democratic Voice of Burma) said the five were arrested on Sunday in the northern city of Chiang Mai and it appealed to Thai authorities not to deport them to Myanmar, where the news organization has been banned by the junta. >"Their life will be in serious danger if they were to return," said Aye Chan Naing, DVB's executive director, in a statement, which also appealed to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees for help. >The statement said they had fled the army crackdown in Myanmar since the Feb. 1 coup, during which dozens of journalists have been among thousands of people arrested. DVB and several other independent media organizations had their licenses revoked. >Thapanapong Chairangsri, the head of police in the San Sai district outside Chiang Mai, told Reuters that five Myanmar citizens had been arrested for entering the country illegally and would be brought to court on Tuesday. >He said they would be deported in accordance with the law, but added that because of the coronavirus outbreak they would be held in detention for 14 days before being handed to immigration authorities.

Strelok 05/15/2021 (Sat) 16:46:27 No.15739

>>15433 I'd go ahead and put Japan firmly in the "lean junta" category. Apparently they've invested about a billion (USD) into Myanmar every year for the last several years in the form of business loans (contingent upon the Junta hiring Japanese companies to run business) and even recently forgave about $3.5 billion (USD) worth of debt as a sign of good faith. The most that Japanese businessmen have done against the Junta is use their shareholder status in Myanmar to convince the head of state to attend that ASEAN meeting a little ways back, and they've expressed a lack of desire to force the Junta to comply since it would mean shoving their loans they've given the junta down the drain. They have promised not to give the junta more loans, but this is likely because they don't want to be seen as actively supporting them.

Strelok 05/24/2021 (Mon) 10:48:08 No.15901

Myanmar rebels claim police killings as Aung San Suu Kyi appears in court People’s Defence Force says at least 20 officers died and police station seized in fighting on Sunday https://archive.md/AAgAW >Dozens of Myanmar security force members have been killed in fighting, rebel fighters have claimed, as Aung San Suu Kyi appeared in person at a court hearing for the first time since her government was overthrown by the military in February’s coup. In one battle on Sunday, the People’s Defence Force (PDF) – a civilian anti-junta movement that fights back against security forces with homemade weapons – said at least 20 police had died and a police station had been seized in the town of Moebyel in Shan state in the country’s eastern fringe. The police station was burned down and rebel fighters took four security force members into custody, local media reported. Videos shared on social media showed what appeared to be the uniformed bodies of security forces and smoke pouring from the destroyed police post and a police vehicle. >Other pictures showed four men who were said to be police officers with their hands behind their backs, blindfolded with surgical masks. The town is about 100km (60 miles) east of the capital, Naypyidaw, and lies near territory held by some of the ethnic armed groups that have fought for greater autonomy for decades. Thet Wai, a PDF member, told Agence France-Presse: “I thought today is a day of conquest. But I am also worried because we have seen airstrikes and tanks today. They have much better weapons than us.” State television made no mention of the clash, and Reuters was unable to reach a junta spokesman for comment on the fighting. >Myanmar has been in chaos since the February putsch that deposed Aung San Suu Kyi, with the military using lethal force to crack down on dissent. The civilian death toll has climbed to at least 815 people, according to a local monitoring group, spurring some to form groups that fight back. Aung San Suu Kyi’s lawyer, Thae Maung Maung, said she looked in good health and held a face-to-face meeting with her legal team for about 30 minutes before Monday’s hearing. The 75-year-old Nobel peace prize laureate is among more than 4,000 people detained since the coup. She faces charges that range from illegally possessing walkie-talkie radios to violating a state secrets law, punishable by 14 years in prison. Suu Kyi “wished people good health” in her meeting with her lawyers and also made a reference to her National League for Democracy (NLD) party, which could be dissolved soon. “Our party grew out of the people so it will exist as long as people support it”, another of her lawyers, Khin Maung Zaw, quoted Suu Kyi as saying. >The European Union on Sunday denounced a proposal by the election commission appointed by the junta to dissolve the NLD. Since the army took power, there have been daily protests, marches and strikes nationwide against the junta. It has responded with lethal force, killing more than 800 people, according to the Assistance Association for Political Prisoners activist group. Another civilian fighter told AFP at least 13 soldiers had been killed on Sunday at Demoso, in Kayah state, and that four of his men had been wounded. “We intended to seize their police station, but they used airstrikes and we could not stop their reinforcement trucks getting into the town,” he said. “We had to withdraw our troops from fighting.” The Mizzima news service said thousands of people had fled after dozens of artillery rounds landed in their neighbourhood. >The fighting continued through Sunday night, according to a senior leader of the Karenni National Progressive party – an armed group with a stronghold in Kayah state. He confirmed that the military was using tanks, helicopters and mortar attacks in Demoso and Loikaw, the capital of Kayah state. An alliance of four armed groups that are also against the coup battled early on Sunday with security forces in Muse, one of the main crossings to China, Myanmar media reported. A national unity government set up underground by opponents of the coup announced a new flag and command structure for the PDF, being set up to oppose the army. Meanwhile, the military chief Min Aun Hlaing, who removed Aung San Suu Kyi from power in the coup, gave a two-hour interview to Hong Kong’s Phoenix Television. The full programme is yet to air but in a snippet released on Sunday he offered reassurances to Chinese investors after a spate of arson attacks at factories in the commercial capital, Yangon. “Our citizens don’t hate China,” he said. “It happened for political reasons.”

Strelok 05/24/2021 (Mon) 18:18:46 No.15907

>>15901 I assume they won't actually execute her? It'd probably be much simpler for them if they did (keeping her imprisoned for decades would only serve the Globohomo's interests, obviously), but it would be a sticky situation to choose. I suppose they could always just boot the woman out of the country, but that would bring issues as well. Hmm, it's a conundrum. I hope they find the wisdom somehow to get the country turned around to it's proper heritage, and away from modern Western (((influences))) soon though.

Strelok 05/24/2021 (Mon) 19:13:11 No.15912

>>15907 >executing her That would make the US loose its shit and go full NK/Iran tier sanctions and then force anyone not Russia to bow down to them. That would just make the rebellions even worse imho. Remember that even China bowed to the US sanctions on Iran, the Russians simply don't give a shit because they are in it to stiff the US. >booting her out Then she just leads the insurrection safe and sound far, far, away, and you have no fucking idea who's running the show in Burma on the ground now. My guess, they will keep her in prison or under house arrest, or heavily restrict her movements outside of those two so they can at least keep the pretense of being receptive to the west. That, of course depends on the west not demanding a Maidan tier resolution. What would be hilarious is if the religon of peace does something stupid and unites the entire country against them agian.

Strelok 05/24/2021 (Mon) 19:37:36 No.15917

>>15912 >My guess, they will keep her in prison or under house arrest, or heavily restrict her movements outside of those two so they can at least keep the pretense of being receptive to the west Could be. A slow burn is the least precarious move, and these 'gentlemen' in charge now (while they made the right move overall) don't strike me as having anything like Lukashenko-tier cajones.

Strelok 05/24/2021 (Mon) 20:16:27 No.15921

>>15917 >cajones wat

Strelok 05/24/2021 (Mon) 20:33:11 No.15923

>>15917 It's not even precarious, Suu is 75 and not too long for the world. They don't even have to neglect/torture her. Her children aren't Burmese citizens and haven't stayed in Burma for very long and likely are estranged from the ethics and reality of Burma from the average person's point of view (not to mention half white). The reason they can't execute her is because her father is considered the founder of the nation. Burma is perpetually stuck with weak leaders, but an even weaker opposition.

Strelok 05/24/2021 (Mon) 20:39:16 No.15924

>>15907 The military originally claimed they would only stay in power for two years while they sorted shit out. While that seems like a lie, so long as they leave the old bitch alive they can keep making that claim and people won't lose their shit. Aung is the daughter of a decorated general and Myanmar has the same nonsense honor ideas that America has about their military so the Myanmar military is unlikely to execute her.

Strelok 05/24/2021 (Mon) 20:43:29 No.15925

>>15912 America is already sanctioning Myanmar Iran-tier. I think I posted an article last month that digs into why the US sanctions are worthless. My guess is Chinese pressure since Aung got along with the CCP and the military didn't (which is why they are currently trying to get back Chink investors since Japan is the only other business partner in Asia not overtly or implicitly hostile to the junta.

Strelok 05/25/2021 (Tue) 02:27:21 No.15926

>>15921 Americans (especially Americans in the South-West) use Cajones and balls interchangeably since cajones means drawers. >>15923 This anon sums up why they haven't done anything to her. Even if she's a cunt and the military hates her, her children pose no threat being in London and she's still the daughter of the junta's founder so they don't really want to kill her even before getting into international politics. I think the military leader is on record having said something to the effect of "her father would be turning in his grave" when the protests started.

Strelok 05/25/2021 (Tue) 03:22:27 No.15927

>>15926 no, it's just a misspelling of cojones

Strelok 05/25/2021 (Tue) 04:02:04 No.15928

>>15926 >Cajones means drawers As in the drawers of furniture like closets and such, not the boxers or jock straps. You probably meant cojones which is used as balls and to be fair it's also a bizarre term anyways, Southwest-wise, because it's a term mexicans never use, they regularly use "huevos" as in eggs or "tanate" as in rough leather bag. Cojones it's a caribbean negro term coming from very archaic spaniard spanish which also means leather bag, but due to its islander nature it's probably a loan word used in Florida or the surrounding areas. Spaniards use a similar term descojonar "balls off" which means laughing to the point of pain.

Strelok 05/25/2021 (Tue) 04:30:07 No.15931

>>15925 The CPC stopped backing Suu in 2018 (maybe 2016?) visibly after and started backing the Juntra again. Mainly because the Juntra was not /as/ pro-western as Suu. I personally have some suspicions the Juntra coup was deliberately backed by at least India or China if not both. Suu pissed the CPC off with some shit pretty early on and it was heavily hinted at in the 2017 CPC national congress, it's not smart to basically bite the hand that feeds. >>15926 Her father was also more or less murdered with tacit British supplies support, and she ironically marries a britbong. Talk about Stockholm syndrome.

Strelok 05/25/2021 (Tue) 22:15:46 No.15934

I guess it means the Chinese won the war against the gnat worshipping mobs and when they didn't get to hack the government the way they were tricked into because they think democracy is a big fucking game they found out the military industrialists are better hackers than white collar nerds.

The General (Blue Genie) 05/25/2021 (Tue) 22:40:15 No.15935

Looks like a new round of 'let's see if the mob crashes the country into the ground because out of spite for being stopped from hacking the government in the name of "democracy"'. There is no stopping official military without official military. And everyone who is anyone who would ascend in the military hates rebel scum.

The General (Blue Genie) 05/25/2021 (Tue) 22:50:30 No.15936

They won't execute her, she did a good job representing the mob into a government hacking attempt that is crashing the Myanmar market into the ground, to the benefit of western democracies stock markets, because everytime a country crashes its market into the ground out of irresponsibility it makes the developed and stable stock markets more attractive comparatively, thus increasing relative demand this strengthening prices and perpetuating the feedback loop of confidence of higher price expectations leading to higher prices. The democratic mob loves to sacrifice 1% of itself to the benefit of the 99% every convenient opportunity it gets.

Strelok 05/26/2021 (Wed) 18:59:46 No.15956

>>15935 >And everyone who is anyone who would ascend in the military hates rebel scum. This is a case where no matter who wins, everyone loses. The rebels are commie globohomos and the military are despots who have a monopoly on most ventures and who rarely invest in updating the machinery and technology for local use along with playing in the smuggling business. It's stagnant but the best remedy by far is the military if they stopped being spooks, which doesn't seem to be happening. One wonders what would've happened if Aung's father didn't get killed by the junta, either a Singapore brother case or a Thailand part two.

Strelok 05/27/2021 (Thu) 03:19:33 No.15957

>>15936 Why are you namefagging?

Strelok 05/27/2021 (Thu) 13:48:00 No.15960

>>15957 Don't even give namefags the time of day. They aren't worth a response to.