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Myanmar/Burma Thread Strelok 02/21/2021 (Sun) 08:09:46 No.13491
We should have a Myanmar/Burma thread. I think it's a big enough topic to justify having it separate from the Chink/Pajeet thread. >What happened? Long story short the Myanmar military has guaranteed 1/3rd representation in their version of congress. Aung San Suu Kyi had introduced a bunch of progressive reforms over the last few years and had frequent visits with Chinese despite Myanmar and China being in a technically hostile relationship. This is a big deal because Chinese nationals have been actively waging a civil war in Northern Myanmar. Suu Kyi lost international support after she approved the Muslim genocides back in 2017 in order to avoid a death sentence by the Myanmar military. The Myanmar military claims there was election fraud, but the evidence is more that this was a move to ensure national sovereignty as the current leader of the military would have been forced to step down/retire following the elections due to anti-military legislation congress passed in recent years. The military is using the excuse of Wu Flu to keep Myanmar's congressional body from officially convening by claiming that public officials violated COVID restrictions and utilized communication means to contact foreign countries when they were under investigation (something that is extremely illegal in Myanmar). Currently civil servants are protesting by manipulating the markets to crash the Myanmar economy with no survivors in order to try to justify UN interference in the form of foreign aid. Health workers, education workers, transportation workers, and banks are refusing to operate and holding protests. Foreign interference is expected. >Why does this matter? The military coup is aiming to restore the balance of power between military and civilian offices in government. If this fails, you can expect a war between Myanmar and China before the end of Biden's presidency as a means of China acquiring more territory. Specifically gemstone/mineral-rich territory that Myanmar already heavily exploits. This could give China an unprecedented economic edge to manipulate the precious metals market. Despite the military crackdown on communications and being an active part of the government, it is likely that the international community will use the protests as an excuse to start civil war in Myanmar since it could give them an excuse to plant western government military bases near China. >Who are the good guys? There are none. Suu Kyi is a progressive bitch, but the military are equally power-hungry and mostly working to preserve power structures that they failed to keep over the 2000s/2010s. Stop crashing and let me post the thread, damn it. >Flood Detected >When the thread didn't even fucking post God damn it.
Two folks killed by police. Jewtube link when anon.cafe inevitably refuses to let the file go through but posts my post anyways: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J205cE6NQHM
Maybe it's a bit too late to have a thread, i hope i'm wrong but it feels as if the happening already happened, it'll probably go the way of Thailand. As for China i doubt an actual war will happen, considering the military government will become/is an international pariah they'll have no option but ask for Chinese suzerainty. Despite their leanings https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=YNN0HAMm92w is a decent analysis.
Will it be entertaining if it happens?
>>13494 This happening won't be over until either a foreign government intervenes or the elections allegedly happen next year. The thing about Myanmar is they are probably one of the more developed countries in that region so their people have tasted degeneracy "market democracy" and aren't going to let it go so easily. If there is no election and the military has held power over this year, the demonstrations might turn into armed conflict. >>13497 Mildest scenario we get involves protests for 9 more months and a peaceful transition of power. Most likely scenario is foreign intervention and potentially shots fired. Best case scenario is millions of dead Chinks and possibly a decisive Tang victory.
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>>13499 >Most likely scenario is foreign intervention and potentially shots fired. So instead of Iran it's Vietnam 2: Electric Boomerloo or alternatively Somalia depending on how far Yamamoto takes his schemes, sasuga Bidup.
>>13499 >in re government intervention The chinese/indians won't openly intervene because then the entire Burma populace has a rallying cry of fuck whoever just intervened. If there's one thing the Juntra in Burma is good at, its not trusting the US government since there's only 3 power players in that region (China, India, USA). Also, we might see china pull a vietnam on some of the territory ceeded to the Burmese in the 70s.
>>13502 Are the Chinese any good at running covert operations though? Their abilities seem pathetic in contrast to the KGB during the Cold War.
>>13507 Its a different form of covert ops than the KGB. The soviets and the americans are a bit more shall we say "active" in their measures. I still think too many people underestimate the capabilities of their covert branch (except for direct action which they suck at, south sudan is a good example). For the Chinese their philospohy is much more passive. Why cause a coup when you can just pour money to both sides?
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China Is the Myanmar Coup’s ‘Biggest Loser’ A relationship decades in the making is now in jeopardy. https://archive.is/QtcqD tl;dr- China made good friends with the Suu Kyi government and has done an about face in recognizing the Military coup by playing neutral, making protestors riot outside Chink embassies in anger for following the status quo. China's fucked if the military doesn't maintain power but they could be at war with said military if they don't relinquish some of said power in next year's elections. Western countries step up pressure on Myanmar junta as protests go on https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-politics/western-countries-step-up-pressure-on-myanmar-junta-as-protests-go-on-idUSKBN2AN058 Over 2000 in queue and not going down so no archive: https://archive.is/wip/t3T10 tl;dr- Indonesia is leading the SEAnigger push to make next year's elections as fair as possible. Protestors are pointing to the American elections as an example of why they shouldn't have to have re-elections and thus have started protesting the Indonesian embassy as well. US sanctions two more Myanmar generals after protest crackdown US move follows military’s use of force against rioters over the weekend that left two dead. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/23/myanmar-more-action https://archive.is/wip/THerm tl;dr- America can't do shit so they're sanctioning military officials. Fail to realize this does nothing because the plebs who are ultimately the ones who sanctions could affect are already striking.
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I've been to Myanmar 2x+2 if you count work. Politically, they are similar to Thailand in that a foreigner may oversimplify the situation as being the military + the capital + the elite vs. the rest of the country. In Myanmar's case, he would say that Yangon is the capital and not the shitty little ghost town of nappy dog where he's had the unfortunate displeasure of being forced sober. Socio-economically, Myanmar is severely underdeveloped almost everywhere outside of Yangon, which itself is severely underdeveloped compared to most other SEA cities. Chinese SOEs are heavily invested in energy and supporting infrastructure. In typical Chinese fashion, FDI is coupled with the export of thousands of undersexed male Chinese workers to colonize the recipient country in Special Economic Zones. One SEZ of particular interest is Kyaukpyu, a high-priority target of Chinese FDI to exploit Burmese offshore oil. They have a brand-new oil pipeline that leads to a brand-new refinery in Kunming. They also have a semi-new gas pipeline and railroad going the same way. They are building a deepwater port and, to bribe the Burmese government for allowing them an Indian Ocean port, another SEZ. In short, the Burmese ruling class are on their knees sucking a tiny ritter Chinese cock for gibs. This is typical of countries targeted by Chinese FDI. Mostly for this reason, I doubt Myanmar can turn into another Syria.
>>13566 Any entities with incentives to run guns to the countryside ala the Viet Cong?
>>13568 Nit him but maybe the ethnic minorities. Issue is those are all along the Chink border.
>>13568 Not that I know of. Much of Myanmar is essentially lawless. The jungley hills bordering China, Thailand and Bangladesh are full of rebels, druglords and slavers. They must have connections with the touristy opium dens and brothels of Yangon and Mandalay. They might trade for firearms with corrupt officials. But rather than stealing weapons from the military, it's far easier and less risky for them to simply trade with the Thais across their long, remote and insecure shared border. For some reason, Thailand has lots of guns and gun violence. They also source tons of meth, opium and slaves from Myanmar.
>>13571 Isn't Thailand's problem commie rebels?
>>13573 Not commies, jihadis. Tbf tho every country has a problem with commies.
Now 18 protesters killed.
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>>13683 Bets on if we'll reach triple digits before the foreign intervention starts? Quadruple digits? When do protestors get labeled as insurgents?
>>13686 >foreign intervention. If you're talking about the US, not likely. I guarantee you China/India are already intervening with (((aid))). This entire coup I think was orchistrated by India possibly, they didn't like the fact that Suu was drifting to the US/China (remember, India is aligned with Russia, while the US is aligned with Pakistan in the Indian subcontinent).
>>13687 I could see that. China was threatening war with Bhutan to get at India because even though India and Bhutan have friendly relations, they don't have a military alliance. I could see India helping a Burmese coup in an act of retaliation against that.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-56265962 https://archive.is/sPBg2 >At least 38 people were killed in Myanmar on Wednesday in what the UN described as the "bloodiest day" since the coup took place a month ago. >At least six people were reportedly shot dead during a protest in Monywa in central Myanmar. At least 30 others were wounded in the unrest, a local journalist told Reuters. >A volunteer medic told AFP news agency in Myingyan that at least 10 people had been injured there. "They fired tear gas, rubber bullets and live rounds," they said. >"They didn't spray us with water cannon, [there was] no warning to disperse, they just fired their guns," one protester in the city told Reuters. >In Mandalay, a student protester told the BBC that demonstrators were killed near her house. >"I think around 10am or 10.30, police and soldiers came to that area and then they started to shoot at civilians. They didn't give any warning to the civilians. >"They just came out and they started to shoot. They used rubber bullets but they also used live bullets to kill civilians in a violent way." >The military has not commented on the reported deaths. I don't believe that the Burma military can cut off internet but not drag foreign reporters out.
>>13770 I'm sure the usual suspects are hard at work funding the turmoil. Funny how they suddenly focus on anything that threatens the globohomo (((narrative))).
>>13770 I've also come across the term ˝Asian spring˝ and reports about Hong Kong protesters sending the protesters a handbook about how to protest. Too bad that the military of Myanmar is not as toothless as Shina. Also, considering how most adult males spend at least a few years as Buddhist monks, it might be just a question of time for monks to show up on both sides, to the bewilderment of the globohomo community.
i prayed so that everyone is ok but i guess life says "no".
>>13770 Will we see Napalm in South-East Asia again in our lifetimes?
>>13777 >That filename Juntas are shit but you won't convince me that they're the terrorists for wanting national sovereignty not beholden to others.
Also now that the video loaded, that wrist reveal was deliberate. That old fart is part of the problem and the amber mining in Burma is considered part of a greater smuggling/insurrection issue that the Myanmar military has contended with against the international community of historians/archaeologists who want cheap relics without reimbursing the people who were abused for decades now.
>>13781 Any idea how old the Burmese culture is? What people are the main group descended from? How in the world did a woman come into power there? Sage for politics, etc. here.
>>13786 >Any idea how old the Burmese culture is? Realistically their culture didn't begin to develop until about the 1200s. Burmese are an ethnic admixture of Han origins and Sino-Tibetan Austroasiatics (Thailand/Vietnam) that heavily adopted Indian culture when it spread through the region at one point in time (allowing for the large number of Buddhists in Myanmar today). That isn't to say the people didn't exist in that region (Burma is a collection of ancient ethnic minorities all under one banner), but they were largely considered backwoods jungle farmers living along rivers by virtually every society that passed through until the Indians took an interest in them and helped them develop a rich religious culture. The ruins that people smuggle shit out of in the Northern part of Myanmar are considered to come from a handful of ethnic minority groups that happened to be cut from a better cloth than their river/SEAnigger brethren (and who are mostly extinct or critically endangered today).
>>13788 I see thanks, Hitler-digits. So, pardon my ignorance, but is this the place with all those exotic looking centuries-old idol statues and temples rotting away in the jungles? Like scenes from Laura Croft?
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>>13799 Just think of Burma as being populated by river folk with a bunch of world heritage sites when you go jungle-delving. Like an Asian version of Northern Brazil/French Guiana.
>>13805 By river folk and smugglers.*
>>13770 >but not drag foreign reporters out. The foreign reporters aren't in the country, silly. they use stock photos and make shit up.

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