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Strelok 02/10/2023 (Fri) 01:42:57 No.47519
Will China persist much longer as a leading power? Why or why not?
>>48154 I stand corrected. Your post unlocked the part of my brain referencing all of the Chinese economic blunders that I was forgetting about, must be Chink propaganda brain waves. That as well as the fact that everyone ive ever talked to about working with the Chinese in order to get raw materials always talks about how it is a nightmare and they always send over a ton of shit quality stuff. The people are highly dysfunctional and are always trying to backstab each other. Probably a result of never being a Christian society and being simple bugmen slaves forever. The modern Chinese are, as many people forget, just the conglomeration of the remaining tribes that somehow avoided the Mongol rape hordes that deleted most ancient chinks. After that, these tribes were specifically bred by their own leaders to be a better slave race of people. They have SEVERE issues built into them, and its not even random negative traits like Africans or Indians have. >>48142 they do this specifically to gaslight their own economy into not collapsing. It is make-work that keeps certain sectors busy. They build all of these fancy high-rises, many of which go unfurnished on the inside and then either let them sit, or collapse them to rebuild them. The average chink lives in a shack like he always has while big sky scrapers are built around him that nobody lives in, like a big shell
>>48154 >>48158 I see, that makes sense -- especially the investment angle. Thanks Strelok.
>>48159 >they do this specifically to gaslight their own economy into not collapsing. It is make-work that keeps certain sectors busy. Yeah that actually does make sense. I read a book by Robert A. Heinlein called The Door into Summer that had a similar idea about luxury cars. They'd create them at great expense (but without any motors in them), then at the end of the year smash them all, unused, in compactor then recycle them. Lather, rinse, repeat.
What if America/Thailand attacks Myanmar, possibly with Indonesia/India's help and fucks with both Russia and China while commandeering temporarily taking over the Japanese oil rigs?
>>48187 That would require America giving a fuck about Burma. The only thing I care about Burma for is that they still also use miles
>>48187 The Thailand Royals/Generals would be idiotic to ally with the USSA at this point when they could be the 'Switzerland' of WW3.
>>48084 I'm Aryan dumbo. >>48085 Sure the CCP has failures, but they appear small compared to the (((intentional))) USSA failures. >>48099 Realistically, I don't see how direct fighting between the PRC and USSA wouldn't lead to nuclear war unless the USSA 'leadership' already planned to surrender according to certain (((protocols))).
>>48142 Same reason the USA builds their houses out of fucking cardboard. Money
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>>48130 >began replacing China with poos Replace street shitters with spics and this is already happening to an extent. It's lookin more and more like the entrenched global order in general and the Chinks in particular have jumped the shark and are on their way out Mite get breddy intertaining for a while gents, strap in
>>48254 >entrenched global order >chinks Is this bait?
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>>48259 IDK, probably?
>>48259 I think he means the Globohomo, Strelok.
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>>48267 Correct. I prolly coulda phrased it better though apparently.
>>49604 >Only tangentially related but china has brought up banning export of rare earth metals as retaliation to these de facto chip sanctions the U.S. has been trying to put on them. They can but it won't do much. Either this turns into Russian oil all over again with the US imports processed rare earth from China through their allies that are trade partners or trade-adjacent with China (and China is forced to make the same stupid decisions Europe made about bullying friends if they want the ban to have an effect) or it ends up hurting China more in the long run because it encourages production outside of China in response to hawkish behavior. >we have no processing capabilities Trump was working on that right before he got booted from office. There's a few processing facilities set to open in the next 6-12 months scattered across the continental US in anticipation for this event which was expected. They have been working on this in the private sector since 2020 when it was de facto closed down because of Chink flu. You are correct that this will force the public sector to compete with the private sector for limited resources so I wait to see how the US government will quell the zombie hordes when a goyphone costs $11,000 because of government contracts, however that will largely be a temporary situation. Everyone compares China to Russia or America, and in terms of using quantity as a quality of its own they are the same, but in terms of natural resources China is largely a desert shithole without anything except trees, metal, and many mouths to feed, whereas Russia has raw goods (wheat, lumber, ore, heavy sour oil) and America has replaced their raw goods with refined goods (electronics, refined metals, light sweet petrols, etc.). China has to rely on their finances and cheap manpower as a selling point the same as India; Russia and America and Brasil do not. >>49615 Fluorescent provides all the benefits of incandescent at a fraction of the energy. >Muh mercury The plastics and soy will kill you first.
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>>47519 YELLOW PERIL chyna is assho nuke them all
Taiwan Strait: top EU diplomat calls for European navy patrols https://archive.ph/BVFUn >Josep Borrell says safeguard would show Europe’s commitment to the ‘absolutely crucial’ area >“That’s why I call on European navies to patrol the Taiwan Strait to show Europe’s commitment to freedom of navigation in this absolutely crucial area,” he wrote. >“It is not only for a moral reason that an action against Taiwan must necessarily be rejected. It is also because it would be, in economic terms, extremely serious for us, because Taiwan has a strategic role in the production of the most advanced semiconductors.”
>>49640 At this stage, it clearly would be a higher-good if China displaced the Jewnited Snakes as the dominant global power. So meh.
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>>49783 >Jewish CCP replacing the Jewnited States >better
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>>49786 >be USA >poke and prod the Middle East for decades >wonder why the rest of the world hates you now >cry about homophobia and call all your critics war mongering oligarchs while being completely oblivious to your own hypocrisy >be China >poke and prod your southern neighbors for decades >wonder why the rest of the worlds hates you now >cry about Sinophobia and call all your critics imperialists while being completely oblivious to your own hypocrisy Yeah pretty much they're both niggers.
>>49783 Ideally America and China will kill each other leaving the Iranians and Russians to inherit the earth. >>49793 To play devil's advocate, China's goals are all local and regional to opening up the pacific to avoid sanctions and strengthen their global allies. That's not to say they should be allowed to do so, but rather that their goals are pretty mundane. India and China have basically stopped fighting outside the occasional border dispute because like the 100 years' war between France and Britain the two have realized they make more money trading than fighting over some mountains.
>>49794 >leaving the Iranians and Russians to inherit the earth Ah yes, because 2 irrelevant countries with no meaningful produce but oil can totally project power beyond their region.
>>49798 If fire gave us the ability to smelt ore and jump human technology by leaps and bounds, those fancy little hydrocarbons which we will be reliant on for at least two more centuries unless humanity adopts fission instead of pussyfooting around are the reason we can process more than half of our synthetic chemicals today. If humanity banned/ran out of oil tomorrow, roughly 2 billion people would die in a month. Grain and oil define the modern human existence. Go sell off all your electronics and be a subsistence farmer if you don't like that.
>>49799 >those fancy little hydrocarbons which we will be reliant on for at least two more centuries Aren't (((they))) banning hydrocarbons?
>>49800 Now you're starting to get it when I talk about the WEF depopulation agenda. It's not that they have a literal depopulation agenda albeit I believe they do but rather that all of their actions will have the end result of global depopulation regardless of intent.
>>49786 Definitely so. The greatest thing about China is they still have those 40+ organ-harvesting RVs that go around their circuits, and they still kill faggots there if you're too aggressive about your faggotry. Win-win.
>>49799 The Saudis and Benizuelans still offer better value for their oil, and your shithole countries won't last for the 2 centuries before some other great power crushes it and take the oil for itself.
>>49804 Saudis are relying on Russia for security guarantees. Beniszuela is conjoined to Russia at the hip for gibs to keep them from total economic collapse. Where did you wander in from, 2019?
>>49805 >Saudis are relying on Russia for security guarantees Yeah that explains why they're surrounding themselves with US hardware. >Beniszuela is conjoined to China at the hip for gibs to keep them from total economic collapse Fixed that for you.
>>49800 Honestly, they're just trying to make a buck off of new tech and hedging against the world's depleted oil supplies. Their depopulation "agenda" is just the manifestation of their desire to control this most vital resource (fuel) and direct its use to their benefit. To you, they've got a conspiracy to murder billions. In their eyes, they're just cutting costs because they own the world and its theirs to do with what they want.
>>49841 >In their eyes, they're just cutting costs because they own the world and its theirs to do with what they want. So yeah, a conspiracy to murder billions then?
>>49843 I'm referring to motivation, and you're referring to consequences. If someone had a conspiracy to burn down a building to collect insurance money, carried it out one night and the janitor died in the fire, you wouldn't classify that as "a conspiracy to kill the janitor?" No, you'd say that they didn't take into account the janitors life and acted with indifference to his safety. Motivation vs consequences.
>>49853 >You would say That they committed manslaughter and would be charged accordingly. The insurance fraud part actually raises it to second degree murder.
Back to the subject of oil. Western billionaires want to control oil, but they're losing access to all of the channels they used to have. The Saudis have cut ties with the US. Russia has been singled out as the west's enemy and won't be selling to the west until Russia wins the war in Ukraine this summer. And at that point they'll be negotiating on Russia's terms. Iran has oil and has also been singled out as an enemy. They won't be selling to them. Venezuela is in the same position as Iran and has taken measures to prevent western meddling. Haiti has recently been said to have oil reserves and is the only odd man out. Should they throw off the yoke of imperialism, then the west will have to come as an honest buyer to all oil-producing states. It's about time we lived in a multipolar world.
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Have you ever had a plan that worked SO WELL the first time that you decide to repeat it withe the other nuclear power that you are hostile towards? https://web.archive.org/save/https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/taiwan-says-its-talks-being-brought-under-us-nuclear-umbrella https://web.archive.org/web/20230529025212/https://news.antiwar.com/2023/05/28/taiwan-says-its-in-talks-on-falling-under-us-nuclear-umbrella/ >Taiwan Says It's In Talks On Being Brought Under US Nuclear Umbrella >Taiwan’s foreign minister said last week that the US and Taiwan are in talks on the possibility of the island being brought under Washington’s nuclear umbrella, a step that would make a catastrophic war between the US and China much more likely. >Taiwanese Foreign Minister Joseph Wu made the comments before Taiwan’s parliament, the Legislative Yuan. Wu declined to detail the talks when pressed if Taiwan had asked the US to bring the island into its nuclear umbrella. >Regarding the discussion of this issue with the United States, it is not suitable for me to make it public here," Wu said, according to The South China Morning Post. >Many of the US’s allies are considered to be under the protection of the US nuclear umbrella, including Japan, South Korea, and every member of NATO. >Giving such a guarantee to Taiwan would mean the US could use nuclear weapons if China invades the island or if war breaks out by other means. According to the SCMP report: > As Washington and Beijing ramp up their military signaling on Taiwan, the self-ruled island has started to discuss what was once unthinkable – to come under the US nuclear umbrella that has successfully protected Japan, South Korea and Australia for decades. > The debate was set off after Taiwanese Foreign Minister Joseph Wu suggested on Monday that the island had been in talks with the United States on the nuclear umbrella issue. >Such a guarantee is unlikely to happen in the near term as it would require a radical change to US policy. While President Biden has vowed to send troops to intervene if China attacks Taiwan, the official policy on how the US would react to a Chinese invasion is still ambiguous. >But the fact that the idea is being discussed will be viewed as a major provocation in Beijing. China has a no-first-use policy for its nuclear arsenal, but US policy leaves open the option to use nukes in response to a conventional attack.
>China purging foreign ministers >China purging nuclear missile program managers >China purging defense ministers >Not demotion purges but Mao-style disappearance purges >Top CCP leaders getting blackbagged What the fuck is going on in China?
>>55659 CIA Glowniggers are being run out of town on a rail? After all Usurper-in-Chief has been dancing to the war-drum tune of his handlers. A) JewSA/Natto isn't going to start Jew War III over the former Ukraine, and they are now targeting all their globohomo buildup towards doing it over gay anal + child sexual mutilations in Taiwan instead. Simple as.
>>55663 The people being purged were party loyalists who've worked for the CCP for decades, not inserted glowniggers.
>>55659 >>55674 >>55663 it's a bit hard to tell but a bit both. There's pretty severe resistance to Xi in the party echelons right now so he's pulling a great purge like Stalin did. Mixed in that is a bunch of CIA deep cover moles who have been "uncovered" (read: Someone had dirt on them). How much of the latter is true obviously, is up for debate since the evidence is classified. The fact that the anti-corruption bureau (read: worst of the FBI) got clowned on hard by local social media was one of the indicators. Currently there's a lot of CPC guys selling people to the golden triangle area with no gov jurisdiction and harvesting their organs and selling women into prostitution. I think kidneys are about 1,000 USD a pop. The major Epstein guy behind this somehow managed to escape four operations to catch him and managed to van the undercover women sent to take down his org. A few major female streamers (think like twitch thot amoranth but more clothed and dancing only) with several million active followers literally got vanned to Cambodia and died of STDs after a few (2?) months. Supposedly they didn't want her to be useless so they drugged her to sleep and let guys run an endless train on her.
>>55677 I believe you, but why did they go after the female streamers? Sounds like an unnecessary way to draw attention.
>>55678 >Unnecessary It's not like the Chinese gov is going to bomb Cambodia because there's a popular female streamer being sold as a prostitute unwillingly. Their response is "We asked the Cambodian gov and they said they can't help". Cambodia is state with little government (ancap almost) and buying child sex slaves is a thing there. Plus these schemes generally target the peasant / noveau-rich without brains. Did you really think they're going to pay you 5x the median wage and have you work 3 days a week in Cambodia? Some other scheme that was recent is they kidnap a friend of yours, get you to meet the friend in China, and you get vanned and sold because the China-Burma/Thailand border is so porus nobody will notice. In that area the cartels outgun the cops and the army at times. There's also limited goverment control, and what "government" there is on the same side as the crime orgs. Plus, the kidnappers are Chinese, the ringleader is Chinese and is probably a higher up (former) CPC functionary, and if you talk about it on social media and highlight her case they won't outright censor you now, they just note that it was "foreign disinformation". If you get to be a really big thorn they just wack you silently since social media in China requires your phone number, State issued ID, and facial recognition to work. Think of it as CIA shipping crack to the US, or if Epstein was a plant by the CIA to influence congress. The new law (roughly translated to) "National guidelines on protections of personal information and privacy in internet transactions" is like PATRIOT and does the exact opposite. It requires for online commerce to verify your ID and phone number to an account to combat cyber crime and identity theft, and requires facial rec to purchase from anything electronic connected like a vending machine. You can get denied from purchasing bottled water by the machine if your credit is too low. It's very easy to figure out where are now with that data if you can obtain it illegally. And like anything, there's always a price to sell. Foreigners don't require facial recognition but that's just a soft block onto them from keeping you from stuff they don't want you to buy. It's not like you're going to escape the skynet system in China outside of maybe Manchruia or remote ass Qinghai, even then if you show up to a village they'll ping you.
>>55679 I forgot to mention, another incident was in Chiang Mai (?) they kidnapped 20 Chinese women (including like 4 undercovers) because the hotel they stayed at drugged the entire hotel group's food. Thai police went to get the CCTV recordings and they're all gone because "muh system broke" and the hotel owners and crime staff all vanished before the raid, the only ones they are holding probably didn't have an idea. Yes, women only tour groups are a thing in China. Being a man won't help since they just sedate you and harvest all your organs and throw you in a ditch.
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>>55677 >>55679 Maybe I'm a bit of a traditionalist but I actually like the idea of buying a wife. Wasn't that common during Roman antiquity? Imagine being a Roman soldier who just came back from fighting in North Africa against Carthage and you pass by the slave markets in Rome. The first thing you see is a beautiful large breasted Germanic woman in chains with her body out in the open. She's on sale but due to Germanic women being fairly common in the slave markets, no one wants her. Well, no one except you. I know my autistic fan fiction of the Roman Empire is really off topic but buying my cute conquered Germanic wife from a slave market sounds really hot. >tfw you're not a roman soldier who got back from North Africa and passed by a slave market to buy his new wife. >>55680 That sounds legitimately disgusting. What do you think happened to those women? What is the ultimate fate of women who are captured like that in those particular incidents? Are they kept as indefinite prostitutes? Killed and harvested for organs? Blood sacrifices?
>>55682 >Maybe I'm a bit of a traditionalist but I actually like the idea of buying a wife. It is a nice, traditional, idea. But just like they say, 'you can take a nigger out of the jungle, but you can't take the jungle out of the nigger' -- you can't take the pozz out of a modern Western woman. Slavemarket or no, if she's already undergone a life of jewish brainwashing, she'll be useless as a wholesome companion. A useful breeding machine perhaps, but you'll have to remove your kids from her presense upon weaning if you want them to grow up sane.
>>55682 >Where do they end up? The Chinese goverment's own investigation said this: The women end up as either prositutes, or bait as scammers to their friends/randoms to lure more people in. The men generally end up as work slaves in scam call centers, miners, or just hav etheir organs harvested (1 lung +kidney) and thrown back in China. There are rumors that some woman are forced to surrogate, no proof of that one, but I can see it happening with the current culture. The other one is that some end up being used for illegal "high end" tech production. Think of the cartels paying engineers to build/design narco subs but you're not being paid. >>55684 >modern western women TBH I've had better experiences with western women than Asian ones. Then again maybe because all the latter are goldiggers.
>>55685 >The other one is that some end up being used for illegal "high end" tech production. Think of the cartels paying engineers to build/design narco subs but you're not being paid. You writing cadence makes that sound as if these slutty women are being used to R&D high tech. Lol. >TBH I've had better experiences with western women than Asian ones. You clearly have little experience with the sexual marketplace of young Western women today.
>>47519 no, cos their economy is crashing like the 2008 GFC
>>47800 Rising powers come and rising powers go, yet China endures forever.
>>59257 >China endures forever Communist China killed real China forever though, and genetically speaking the Han Chinese died out centuries ago and the bugs you see nowadays are comparable to Brazilians.

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