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Gun purchases. Panic buying new fags. And other shit. Strelok 07/28/2020 (Tue) 23:30:07 No.4526
Alright faggots. 2020 so far has been fun and it created a ton of new fags for the gun community. Now this board is likely not the first, second, or third place a new fag will come for gun advice. So this is not that thread. So have any of you: Bought a gun sometime this year? Bought a piece of gear like an optic or maybe even armor? Helped someone buy a gun? Teach someone how to not anhero? Or did you laugh and call someone a faggot for not buying earlier? Did a family member or friend or coworker become a total retard the second they got their first gun? either turning into an internet tough guy or saying I'm a 2A person now """"""BUT"""""" Were you planning to buy something but just said fuck it due to the lines and/or couldn't because of stripped bare shelves? Do any of you happen to work in a gun store and did you get fun phone calls from people in shitholes asking to buy a fun and have it delivered to their doors? Do you live and work in a shithole and have the fun of explaining the hoops they have to jump through? Did you explain the hoops and obstacles with a shit eating grin on your face? I've been trying to get two friends to get a gun for a while now and neither have made the effort to even get a wood stick for defense even though one said he wanted a fun for possible shtf reasons way before gook aids was a thing. Some people can't get motivated by seeing hordes of retards talk about spreading the fun I guess. I've helped two boomer age pencil pushers by taking them to the range and letting them fire an okay amount I think of self defense oriented guns (AR, shotguns, DA\SA and striker fired handguns, a revolver also) and got paid for it too. They had a bit of a reaction upon seeing the AR A3/A4 20 inch style but after handling the shotguns and handguns they warmed up real quick to it. Lines had been forming outside of gun shops when this all kicked off, sometimes wrapping around the block while the rain was pouring. I figured I would wait for the panic buying to calm down and thought I'd be safe since the gun I've been wanting was either a Ruger sp101 or a Smith and Wesson J-frame thinking plastic blasters and shotguns would be the only things that would be hard to restock. But then a wonderful culture spreader got subtracted from the diversity interaction statistics, and for now I won't be able to larp as a 30s detective or CC in a plastic dog shit bag in hand while blasting a home made pharmaceuticals enthusiast if it ever comes to it.
>>8627 RF is a texas based low to mid tier manufacturer and that upper looks like something I'd pick up back in 2015 during a black friday/cyber monday deal for 200 and some change. Quality wise the only real issue with RF issues that don't require a replacing that you might as well get another rifle is thier floppy free float rail designs that love sucking in heat to break down the loctited screws so make sure you slather that shit on. Also their BCGs are fail usually at the cam pin and their bolt heads are on par with other el cheapos (~1500 maybe more rounds) I'm on the shitter right now so my explanation of AR quality ranges will be kind of jank. Most cheap ARs can have their fuck ups (current and future) fixed by using a minimum of tools and or swapping out the BCG for a quality one like BCM, Daniel Defense, LMT whatever. Barrel wise most guns will let you slap shit at 100 yards with a bit better than minute of man accuracy (the kind of accuracy that's good enough for govt. work) however you probably won't be passing that barrel down to your kids. Generally for max durability, reliability, and longevity you want a chrome lined barrel by a reputable manufacturer since they won't cut corners by chroming then drilling holes afterwards and also they'll have the bore diameter set to compensate for the thickness of the chrome lining. Cheaper chrome barrels will be off a bit in bore and chamber since it's probably the same shit they pull off the line that would have been nitrided "hey bob just slap me some chrome in there don't matter if its flaky or slightly to thick" this is likely why chrome had a bad rep with competition guys for being inaccurate. Nitrided barrels will fulfill 99.9% the requirements for a civvie just with a bit shorter life span People change their $1000 smart phone when it gets slightly too old I'm sure they can afford to slap down $150 or even less for another cheap blaster barrel. Meanwhile uncle sugar needs money to go to the f35 so he's gonna make sure the 20 something year old squeezes every bit of life out of that jank old M16 during training. Buy once cry once types also approve of $300 chrome barrels too because they're GOOD Nitriding like chrome creates a hard wear resistant layer but instead of adding a layer it makes a few microns deep of barrel surface into the hard wear resistant surface. They're not so great at wear resistance when heated up though like when firing in full auto bend a piece of sheet steel into a coat hook shape to make your gun go faster and cook your barrel :^) but when firing in semi auto they're just fine. The rifle itself would only really need a bolt head swap assuming the gas key tube part on the carrier itself is staked on properly and doesn't have what looks like casting lines cast lines means MiM parts but MiM isn't necessarily shit but I don't trust an outsourced indian factory to make that properly. The trigger will be a bog standard milspec thing so expect anywhere from 5 to 8 pound trigger pulls. It's not bad but not great and if you get into this thing you could always cannibalize it for parts or just keep upgrading it until you have enough parts to have 2 ARs. CA firearms certificate are retard easy and my last attempt I missed 1 answer because I bubbled in the wrong answer accidentally. It's about 30 questions and assuming you've been paying attention to the safety bits hickok or whoever talks about before shooting you'll probably be good while keeping in mind that CA has anal rules about firearms and ammo storage as if anyone actually follows those rules but pay attention to child safety sections which are almost direct copies of the NRA child safety guidlines. Walk in and ask to take the test (but it would help to flip through CA DOJ safety rules on their website) and do it quickly. Honestly you will probably be more memorable and make better friends with the shop guys if you walk in know some shit already and get out due to every former anti gunner now coming in asking every question there could ever be about choosing a good gun or why the $100 box of 380 ammo don't fit in their newly bought well used 38 special revolver.
>>8638 Yea county should be good enough but i don't have a car to easily get around and use a VPN and its not like I'm trying to do anything illegal here. Just want advice on buying my first firearms from an authorized dealer and get my firearms safety certificate. Never broken a single law so far in my adult life and have been past 21 for quite a while now. Just need the cash and certificate. >>8653 I can't tell you how many times i read this post and failed to understand the specifics on the gun components and abbreviations. May as well be moonrunes to me. I took the test quiz and got 3 wrong and 1 was an accident clicked the the wrong one but its a 75% you need and i scored 86%. So should i buy this one or see what they have in stores? The gist of your post as i understand it is you get what you pay for but you can upgrade it in the future for the subpar parts.
>>8674 >The gist of your post as i understand it is you get what you pay for but you can upgrade it in the future for the subpar parts Yes especially now that beggars can't really be choosers even if you save your bills. My main concern is based around replacing the Bolt Carrier Group with one of these https://www.primaryarms.com/lewis-machine-and-tool-complete-m16-bolt-carrier-group-556-223 https://www.primaryarms.com/bravo-company-manufacturing-bolt-carrier-group-bcm-bcg https://www.primaryarms.com/daniel-defense-m16-cut-complete-bolt-carrier-group-04-013-19032 or another from a reputable company. And if you want to stick with your rifle replace the barrel with a chromed lined one like this. https://www.primaryarms.com/fn-america-556-nato-cold-hammer-forged-carbine-length-ar15-barrel-government-20 again not necessarily this exact one but it will be priced nearly the same. Don't fall for high end triggers just yet and focus on ammo, the BCG, and some way to aim like a red dot or regular iron sights. side note that the rifle has a carbine length gas system. Assuming you can find another with a similar price check for a MID-LENGTH system as a carbine system coupled with a 16 inch barrel tends to be overgassed as in the recoil will feel harder and the parts are battering much harder against each other however it is something that can be fixed later on when the panic buying prices stop being so rape.
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>>8674 If you're planning to Californicate your AR, you got two methods for "legalities". 1)Maglock +Enjoy your pistol grip, flash hider, and adjustable stock *Some companies offer quick button release systems to improve reload times like Juggernaut Tactical's Hellfighter system but have issues during maintenance or when your rifle gets an FTE -Lose your ability to quickly drop mags during a reload, round stuck in the chamber with an FTE, and if the police don't know about such systems, then you are potentially slapped with assault weapon charges. 2)"Featureless" +Keep your magazine release & bolt release for whatever entails your choice. -Install faggy fins to your rear pistol grip, a fixed stock ala carbine/rifle, no flash-hider unless you use a compensator/muzzle brake then its ok,and no forward handguard mounted pistol grip. Alongside for stores, a couple to check would be RifleGear, Rifle Supply, 80% Arms, Fowler Gun & Room be wary they got a lotta fudd guns like that pristine Husqvarna in 6.5 Swede that I fucking kick myself for not buying, and etc.
>>8692 Just in case you wanted it, here is the video that the image you posted is from
>>8692 Interesting. I've wondered how some people don't have fins on their ARs and i assumed they were legal but had some loophole shit going on. For now I'll stick with fins because I don't really understand entirely and want to have confidence in what I'm doing. Also i wish that guy made more videos, its been 2 years since his last one. Which one of these is the FSC test? I'm not sure which and also can't find whatever material you're supposed to use for study. I want to be 100% confident when i go to a gun shop to take the test. The first one is the one i passed with 86%. I took two other I don't recall which but i did not get a passing score for those although i could probably pass if i retook. Some stupid trick questions and questions I also misread as well as some that were just fucked. https://gotestprep.com/california-gun-safety-practice-test/
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>Beretta 92S with two mags at local shop is $300 >dirty Browning Hi-Power with one is $600 I blame this on boogers and generally people arguing for gun rights that led a bunch of urbanites to get in on it. Never promote your goods to the enemy or make a big fuss about anything you don't like, hopefully we've long learned this by now.
i've noticed a lot of gun stores (specifically the boomers that run them) are incredibly elitist and expect you to know everything about guns when you walk in and are very dismissive/indifferent towards any questions you may have for them. i want to attribute this to the influx of newfags getting guns when they don't know anything about them (similar to when a board dies and they all migrate somewhere else and shit up the place), but even before all this happened they were like this. am i just not allowed to ask questions?
>>8915 >300 for a beretta with two mags That's not bad at all, unless you meant $3000
>>8918 Elitism, elderly impatience, and them not knowing shit themselves. >>8948 It was an old police trade-in from Italy.
>>8956 That's still an excellent deal, unless the cop who used it put tens of thousands of rounds through it (unlikely it's fucking Italy) $300 is beyond good. I've been seeing heavily used Beretta 92s go for $600+ where I'm at, and the brand new ones are in the realm of $900 if you can even find one. >>8918 Boomers in general are like that, the "respect your elders" concept was hammered into a lot of their minds without anyone explaining the context and now they believe "I'm old now so I can treat these snotnoses like shit and not tell them anything" instead of "I'm old now I should teach the newer generations what I know".
>>8908 Been awhile since I took my FSC test but I remembered it being 30 questions involving standard safety procedures with guns, proper storage, & understanding the process to owning guns here in Commiefornia. Plus that testing website fucks with the sentences as if some ESL was writing em.
>>8959 >respect your elders That's because boomers are retards and they don't understand how respect is earned.
Any tips for an entry level red-dot?
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>>8915 >Never promote your goods to the enemy or make a big fuss about anything you don't like, hopefully we've long learned this by now. Very true. Here's a another vice city for the ante. >>8918 I absolutely loathe faggots like that, they don't deserve customers. They deserve contempt and verbal fragging.
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>>10716 I'm pretty happy with the at3 red dot i picked up, it's about 100$ and works well. Feels good, looks good, and still holding zero.
>>10716 I'm quite happy with my Sig Romeo5. It's certainly no-frills but I got it on sale for about 150 so the price was right. Funnily enough it was pretty much zeroed right out of the box.
Any advice on a starter LBE setup? I just purchased my first raifu (a PTR91) and would like some gear to have just in case shit goes down. Was considering a MOLLE belt with shoulder harness, which would give me space for mag pouches, a small first aid kit, a canteen, a basic radio, and other small accoutrements, with a minimum amount of encumbrance. I have a little extra cash from a recent VA disability claim so I can afford to get stuff that'll last. Thoughts?
>>10793 if you're going with a belt and suspenders setup, you can break the purchase up into chunks (main belt, actual belt on the inside, suspenders, pouches, etc) to budget out cash. outside of that, try to find a harness with some MOLLE straps on the front for mounting a knife. are you going to be using this with a plate carrier?
>>10814 Thanks for the tips. I haven't decided yet if I'll be using a plate carrier or not. Would one be a worthwhile investment?
>>10816 yeah, it's nice having the option to armor up depending on what you may be facing. if you don't think you'll be moving around a lot or only for short periods of time having a plate carrier is important- but can't be the replacement to a proper LBE. plate carriers should be treated as armor, not as a tactical mounting solution to strap 6 mags and a pistol to. i'd say it ultimately depends on if you're in an urban/rural/suburban setting. if you think you're in a very high risk environment getting armor becomes much higher priority than level 4 plates in Sticks, Nebraska
>>10746 >>10777 Damn, I wish I could get these things at burger prices. Thanks, anons.
Any good brands for buckshot? Particularly those that will run decently in a mag-fed one. Been seeing nobel sport as a cheap enough option, but not sure if the shells would get squished or hold firmly.
Do you guys figure now is a bad time to try to accumulate the parts to build up an 80% P320? I'm hoping that since the "gun" that holds the trigger parts in place is metal, it will be less mushy that the glockalike I have, which is frankly horrible. Actually on the same kind of topic, is there a place to get an AK parts kit that's worth anything, or do those even exist anymore?
>>10816 >>10818 plate armor is heavy as a motherfucker. You will not be able to effectively move with a full plate setup unless you are seriously in shape and strong. Use a pistol vest for your armor. If your plan depends on taking rifle rounds to the chest, you need a different plan. The only conceivable use of plate armor is for military squads who are working in large teams and for very short periods where they know they are going to be directly exposed to high caliber firepower. It is not conceivable in any SHTF scenario.
>>11578 there's a difference between having front and back plates in a light carrier vs having large-XL plates and side plates+trauma pads. modern level IV multi-curve ceramic plates are only around 5-6 lbs and the weight's distributed pretty well. my setup doesn't weigh more than 14 lbs and it's pretty easy to move around. >yeah as long as you're sitting on your ass regularly go on runs with my plates on even though it's autistic and yeah, it's not comfortable, but nowhere near immobilizing. hence the earlier point; if you don't intend on moving around a lot then it's a good thing to have. no good plans involve armor unless they involve hunkering down and holding some position, such as your sick survivalist bunker or your house that you've bugged into. if you are in a situation that demands armor, have armor that actually works rather than a partial solution. people generally don't plan around taking rounds to the chest period
A good deal or a cause for concern? First time buying guns Take a look at pictures please. I'm a brand new gun buyer. I bought one of these because they were the cheapest and seemed of "good" quality (though I'm not entirely sure what I should have been looking for). Kinda concerned because they were so cheap and he had so many of them, and was also selling Pro Mag magazines for them (which I have now come to find out are shit, right?) Do you think I got jewed over? Should probably specify some things... I'm a brand new gun buyer. I bought one of these because they were the cheapest and seemed of "good" quality (though I'm not entirely sure what I should have been looking for). Kinda concerned because they were so cheap and he had so many of them, and was also selling Pro Mag magazines for them (which I have now come to find out are shit, right?) Do you think I got jewed over? Also, this was in the second half of the second day of a two-day gun show. I figured he would have sold out of these things within the first day at most I can't make out the logo on the right hand rifles to know what you bought, not much info to work with. Did you intend to buy a pistol caliber carbine, because it looks like the guns next to that sign are 9mm? as a disclaimer i can only be so much help though since im an interested britfag rather than an experienced owner, would be nice if an american could post to help you. I'm unable to tell if it's only the PCC or if it's chambered in a standard round like 5.56. Who is the manufacturer of the weapon?
Spamming and EXIF violation, lurk more.
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>>11641 Original OP here. Sorry for fucking up, I was phoneposting with extremely funky internet so it kept fucking up and I couldn't tell if I had posted or not, hence the multiple posts. I'm on my PC now though. >I can't make out the logo on the right hand rifles to know what you bought, not much info to work with. Did you intend to buy a pistol caliber carbine, because it looks like the guns next to that sign are 9mm? as a disclaimer i can only be so much help though since im an interested britfag rather than an experienced owner, would be nice if an american could post to help you. I bought the full-length 5.56/.223 rifle. I don't know the manufacturer, forgot to check.
>>11660 Phoneposting is a good way to get yourself v&'d, strelok. For your own safety, don't post on unsafe devices or on a clearnet connection. Better yet, throw away your phone as they're effectively bugs, providing free geolocation and voice recordings for your local three-letter-agency.
>>11660 >got banned >decided to come back before ban was lifted. Wew lad, most people game admins/irc/dickcord mods would just reapply the ban. There's no strict rule on it on /k/ so I'm not inclined to ban you again because that's counterproductive to discussion. >plebbit tier spacing >sorry for fucking up What are you, a fucking leaf? Don't apologize to me, lurk more and understand the culture and rules here better mate. This board is accepting to all those who follow the rules generally and learn imageboard culture generally. >about the fun. You you could've picked up anything from a Daniel Defense to a fucking blow-up-in your hand cerberus firearm with that info. I strongly suggest you to do more research since spoonfeeding is frowned upon and you would likely break a rule and dox yourself. My guess, looks like a PSA logo, my guess is a PSA AR-15 with 16 inch 1/7 twist stainless steel MOE+ EPT ACS-L, and DI system >pic related is PSA picture and some dumb fuck dumb enough to post it in the customer gallery. Said customer also added scope, forgrip, >3. do not post personal, identifying information. if you are posting pictures of places you've been and shit you own, remove EXIF data, metadata, check for reflections, etc. better yet- don't post your own shit! >original post deleted because I forgot to add #RS
>>11698 >>got banned >>decided to come back before ban was lifted. I didn't even know I was banned. I posted on my phone when I finished at the show, then drove home and checked my PC. >>11685 >Phoneposting is a good way to get yourself v&'d, strelok. For your own safety, don't post on unsafe devices or on a clearnet connection. Better yet, throw away your phone as they're effectively bugs, providing free geolocation and voice recordings for your local three-letter-agency. You're a fucking idiot if you think """opsec""" and """hurr durr no phoneposting""" will save you. (((they))) want you to think you're safe by doing those things. Glowie surveillance is much more far reaching than you think. Look it up. When I realized that, I pretty much gave up on "opsec" aside from taking the minimum measures to prevent myself from being doxxed by other users (which are just common sense). Feds already know everything about me and probably you, and will continue to monitor you no matter how much you care about your "opsec". But that's off topic and a discussion for another time.
>>11723 >You're a fucking idiot if you think """opsec""" and """hurr durr no phoneposting""" will save you. (((they))) want you to think you're safe by doing those things. Glowie surveillance is much more far reaching than you think. Look it up. When I realized that, I pretty much gave up on "opsec" aside from taking the minimum measures to prevent myself from being doxxed by other users (which are just common sense). Feds already know everything about me and probably you, and will continue to monitor you no matter how much you care about your "opsec". But that's off topic and a discussion for another time. Technically this is false but also a sound assumption regarding phones and some other things. The whole point about opsec is not getting on a radar. Tthe fact of the matter is ZOGBots are lazy fags who will only catch the low hanging fruit they also don't have the resources or will to monitor everything and everyone, so they will pull metadata from windows os, from google, etc and assemble it in cold storage and try to categorize it neatly to your ID by IP and other spyware botnet identifiers, which can of course be spoofed to evade detections. By intelligently taking measures on your tech you prevent this from happening. A protest for peace of mind and freedom. Now, actual retards will just say what you said and omit erasing exif, omit using VPN paid with crypto and believe ZOG is this almighty all seeing eye god, yeah well, they want to be and they want to give that impression but it's fucking bullshit. They are in reality so much weaker in this area than you think.
>>11728 What problem do you have with privacy or defensive security? You are just assuming a bunch of things and going "lol everything is impossible so don't even try!!!!!!!111111111" which is not a legitimate way of reasoning. I don't care about elite jew list I don't care jews and glows may hate me LOL, so I won't attribute power to them based on suspicions that they don't actually have. Do you understand what i wrote here? >>11725 While I understand what you write and your assumptions are in essence, somewhat valid, they are NOT TRUE for all in practice. This shit is maximum fear-mode, It's harmful to think and just accept like this without actually knowing exactly what is going on or being able to PROVE IT case in point. But a little paranoia is healthy in jew world no doubt. and as I stated, low hanging fruit will be just that. They have resources for the long hanging fruit, but not for nerds i.e people who have read a little bit and keep up to date. The end. Besides you are taking a defeatist standpoint on this and actually solutions now or methods to protect yourself "does not exist". They do, and you must act accordingly, you are probably just a normie small fry can get away with whatever things whatever they may be. Unless you are that ultra rare super big shot important guy, whistleblower, 2% non-schizophrenic that is really being gangstalked lol.(which you 98% are not) You need to learn about defensive security, clearly for your own good and reassurance, you can start by reading and do an etherape scan right now to see the jist of what is going on in your network. You can then use this information read wireshark, make tcp dump and other things, read from pdf guides or books, whatever. It's not good enough just blurting fear mode out, because it's quite literally not fucking realistic in the way it appears you are writing them.
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I'm a newfag who just picked up a Stag 15 with the fancy hand guard and long rail. Please offer me suggestions on where to purchase optics or sights and what kind of optics or sights to purchase. The primary purpose of this gun is democrat deterrence or elimination within 200 yards
>>11737 >democrat deterrence you don't need iron sights to blow your head off retard
>>11739 ok. I picked up a Sig Romeo MSR + juliet 3 for $250
>>11741 yeah that'll work trying to hit man-sized targets past 200 yards with just irons or unmagnified optics is generally a crapshoot
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>have just under $300 cash >maybe an additional $600 in my bank account that I can afford to spend on other shit and still pay bills >~$700 in bitcoin but getting it out anonymously into cash would be difficult, the only methods are highly susceptible to scams. also want to save it since it's not showing any signs of stopping >debating whether to buy a handgun or stock up on equipment instead >only funz right now is a Winchester Ranger 120 with 100 shells and some birdshot what are my options right now?
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>5.45x39 in stock about a week ago >Now practically disappeared except on gunbroker What the fuck happened? >cheaper than dirt and JG are the only online stores that has stock. I typically use ammoseeker to grab ammo, but does anyone know sites that it does not grab from that regularly carry 5.45x39? On a similar note, I keep seeing Bulgarian spam cans and Ukrainian surplus of corrosive 5.45x39. Anyone know anything about these? I am considering picking some up.
>>11957 savage 320 maybe start looking for ammo now, it's hard to find
>>11959 >What the fuck happened? the entire republican party dissolved
>>11967 Anon, this started before run-offs/capitol storming. I am just wondering if something happened with ammo production on the rusky/ukranian side. Looking around, even .223 and 7.62 from wolf/tula/etc is starting to disappear online.
you guys have any recommendations for which parts I should get to future-proof my AR in case parts get hard/impossible to find in the USA because of our new retarded overlord? The charging handle seems a little chintzy so I already picked up a spare, and I've got a few magazines. Should I get a complete BCG and a headspace gauge? The bolt carrier itself doesn't seem like it's going to give up the ghost like ever, should I just get some parts to rebuild it if necessary? If so, any recommendations? feel free to tell me to fuck off
>>11982 International bulk shipping of heavy objects is SLOW. It's a simple matter of >ammo comes in >people buy it all up >nothing left till the next shipment comes in
>>12530 spare bolt carriers are a good idea, but frankly you're gonna have your barrel shot out before the BCG starts giving you trouble. extra barrels and the actual means to swap them out are pretty important. magazines are easily the most important. get extra springs for them too
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What's a good concealed carry gun? I'm not particular about what caliber. I'm considering between getting a Makarov or buying the parts for my P320 to make it compact.
>>12543 >I'm not particular about what caliber What about round count? I use a P64 because that's the only realistically concealable handgun I have and it fit pretty nicely in my pants pockets before I got myself a holster for it. It shoots 9x18 mak rounds but it only holds 6 in the magazine, and the trigger pull when the hammer isn't cocked is absurdly heavy. Like surprisingly heavy. There's way better options obviously but in my area everything at stores seems to have been bought up and everything at gun shows is absolutely unreal in terms of pricing anymore. As far as I know P64s are still less than $350 despite this, at least the one I saw at a recent show was under that. Also from what I can tell 9x18 is relatively cheap compared to most other rounds at the moment too so there's that.
>>12543 presumably you have trigger time on your SIG, plus ammo and mags. I'd go with that. during the panic I've been focused on fleshing out what I already own rather than buying new platforms. all my airsoft guns now have a light, optic, and sling/holster.
if you guys are buying shit for SHTF don't forget a fire extinguisher

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