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Kusarigama and Other Ninja Gear Strelok 11/14/2021 (Sun) 10:24:43 No.20438
The kusarigama confuses me. The design itself is perfectly reasonable: It's a flail with a short-range weapon attached for when you get a bit too intimate with your enemy. It leaves me wondering why European flails didn't have a spike on the handle just in case, but whatever. No, the confusing thing about the kusarigama is why a sickle of all things? Why not use a kunai, a hatchet or a pick instead? They are typically seen as ninja weapons and in that regard the obvious answer is to use the sickle as a grappling hook. However, a Japanese sickle would be an absolutely shit grappling hook because the shaft is longer than the blade is wide and that's the opposite of what you want. And even if you do manage to catch something, you're going to be putting half your bodyweight directly onto your carefully sharpened blade so now all you've got is a shitty warpick. A normal pick would make an excellent hook, with the downside of losing your throat-slitting capability. And as for skirting ATF-san? Do you really think your local glow-kokujin is going to believe you when you tell him that you thresh your grain with a meteor flail, and that you do it out in the rice paddy? It would be perfect if you could just stick the chain on with a bow shackle, but I don't know if the nips had anything quite that convenient back then.
>>25813 The West: Making weapons gay one dandy ass item at a time.
>>26021 This whole thread is of full of gay premises coming from people pretending to know a lot just to trick others into believing their gay opinions as certitude. Why don't you actually post about something related to the actual topic of this thread. Like whatever thread he'll a "ninja" truly is based on historical accounts of their weapons and gear. Faggot. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninja
>>26037 One of the most important ninja techniques is turning Westoids gay through magic cartoons
>>26037 The くのいち most powerful weapon is まんこ Post weaponized まんこ
Nip arrowheads. I can seem to find my onion head arrow pics.
>>26398 >Arrowheads with clan symbols carved into them. Is this some way of "sending a message"?
>>26402 I assumed it was just a way to lower the weight and the smith was flexing. Who knows though.
>>26398 Do you have examples of that melee weapon that is based on an arrow? That is, it evolved from archers trying to poke people who got close with their arrows, and so it's basically a pointy stick.
>>26398 Aesthetic as fuck
>>26520 I've never heard of this. That sounds neat.
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Japan also had a weapon that was more like a European flail.
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>>25005 I found a little diagram of Flip knives today while searching for something else.
>>25715 >>24810 Is this design useless? No. Is it unwieldy? Yes. Is it cool? Definitely, and sometimes showmanship can be traded for a slight cost functionality. A halberd is better designed but also more bulky looking, and not as beautiful or elegant as the bare branches spear design.
>>29491 some of those look straight out of ye olde first 3d wrpg
>>24810 >I'm not even sure how that leaf spear is suppose to work. If you look at the Mandarin Duck formation, it shows you a squad of soldiers that work in cooperation. Each soldier has a different weapon for a different task. The problem this formation has however is that it is weaker against full spearmen formations and cavalry attacks. To compensate for that they gave the spear of the single spearman in the unit more points ends. Put several Mandarin Duck formations side by side and the spearmen together create a pointy metal hedge against oncoming attackers. >>29797 >some of those look straight out of ye olde first 3d wrpg They don't just look like that, old first 3d wrpgs did indeed copy weird blades from around the world to look more exotic and fantasy. On top of that the Philippines in the 90s had some influence as the cool hip thing in martial arts. Richer Generation Xers would travel there for sex tourism and flex on their peers that they trained there in knife fighting or some other martial arts, which wasn't your old and stale judo, karate or kung fu you could trains in the West.
>>29798 > Richer Generation Xers would travel there for sex tourism and flex on their peers that they trained there in knife fighting or some other martial arts >Say Jim I heard you got back from south east Asia. That's like your 5th trip this year, what are you doing over there? >Oh I'm just doing some Flip kids...er I MEAN FLIPKIDO, yeah that's the ticket. Really wild stuff Bill! Got kickboxing and knives and sarongs!
>>29798 >Richer Generation Xers would travel there for sex tourism and flex on their peers that they trained there in knife fighting or some other martial arts, which wasn't your old and stale judo, karate or kung fu you could trains in the West. Then what do the western women get out of it? It can't be just for taking photos and shit and sending it to Instagram all day.
>>30026 Women will bankrupt themselves just to leave the country they are in yes it doesn't make any sense but that's women.
>>30026 >Richer Generation Xers would travel there for sex tourism >Then what do the western women get out of it?
>>30026 >Then what do the western women get out of it? Anon you understand that women contribute a significant portion to the sex tourism industry even if male sex tourism is more common, right? Events like the olympics are infamous for sex tourism to the point where countries like Russia and Japan explicitly put out PSAs about how that athlete is not going to put a ring on it when you get pregnant.
>>30026 >Then what do the western women get out of it? Any woman that travels extensively does so to get her snatch plastered by exotic guys, often times even young boys. Or do you think female pedophiles are different from male pedophiles?
>>30082 >>30108 >>30136 >Anon you understand that women contribute a significant portion to the sex tourism industry even if male sex tourism is more common, right? the fuck are you talking about ? go to any downtown area and count how many men vs women standing on the corner selling themselves because I don't see much and the men selling themselves are selling for faggots and crossdressers . I lived in Miami in the 90's so don't tell me shit.
>>30166 The fuck are YOU talking about? Who said anything about male prostitutes? The women who travel to get fucked by exotic locals aren't hiring male prostitutes, they're just fucking locals.
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>>30166 >He thinks women need to pay for sex >What are bars >What are dance clubs Do you think people actually go to those to have fun? Maybe once in a blue moon for the latter but no, people go to those because they WANT SOME FUCK anon. THEY WANNA SMASH.
>>30166 >>30178 >>30185 Look at all the fools that don't know that there are many tourist spots for women around the world that have populations of professional gigolos that get payed to fuck the western feminist landwahles that even a nigger wouldn't touch.
>>30358 Nobody said they don't exist but that's not the normal customer outside of Japanese female-focused cabaret clubs/soaplands.
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Does anyone know the names of some of the other Chinese staff weapons? I know the three-section staff is called sanjiegun.
>>30185 Where can I find these memes?
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>>32479 https://saucenao.com/search.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fanon.cafe%2F.media%2Ft_36d15e71bb05db1b652233afd862ab17a09da3775257611ca85b25ce8d70946f Either Twitter or Pixiv. Both seem to be kept well up to date with each other, but there are some exceptions given Twitter's sensitivity.
>>32462 Specifically do you know the name of that extra thick monk staff/cudgel you see some times?
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>>32875 The one with a metal ornament on the end? I think it's just called a monk's cudgel or a Zen stick. The flat fat sticks (d in pic related) is called a Keisaku 警策/"awakening stick" since it was traditionally smacked hardly on someone's head to wake their ass up if they were dozing off.
>>32930 I think it's called something like Chin Kang Gun or Jin Gang Gun or Qun Yang Gun. I'm not sure if those are three different transliterations of the same weapon or what. It might be called a Shepherd's Staff in english. It's a stubby but thick staff weapon.
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Tell me about Japanese explosives. I remember an anon several years ago talking about these ceramic grenades from WWII but didn't the Japanese have something similar as far back as the Mongolian invasions?
>>40291 Couldn't they have just stuck some non-ceramic shrapnel to the shell? Like some good chunks of quartz or hardwood slivers or lead shot?
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>>40293 I think ideally you would just make the shells out of iron but of course the whole point was that Nippon didn't have the metal to spare in WWII. >lead shot I'm kind of wondering that myself after I came across this.
>>40291 That post doesn't really do the type 4 grenade justice. It wasn't designed for general Naval use nor was it designed for fragmentation. It was a last-ditch suicide weapon that every civilian was armed with in the event of an American invasion. It was designed as a concussion grenade to disorient American troops long enough to charge over a trench or hill without getting mowed down as badly, which is why so much craftsmenship based on region went into the weapon. It was a "people's weapon" to defend their homeland, not a military weapon for taking out enemy positions.
>>40293 Perhaps, but they weren't being built by manufacturing hubs. Pottery makers were commissioned to make them and given "schematics" detailing the construction. They are different in every region because each Japanese potter had a different set of glassmaking/ceramic skills. In many cases those people were civilian artisans so they likely wouldn't have thought much on how to make them kill better. They were pulled away from their lifelong works to make suicide grenades in preparation for an American invasion. The potters probably didn't want to build them in the first place.
>>40395 That's a nice bit of extra info anon. I don't guess you have anything on pre-modern Japanese (or just Asian) hand grenades?
I've been looking at the Fire Dragon Manual and it has some interesting stuff on early Chinese incendiary weapons but I still can't find anything yet on early Japanese grenades.
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Does anyone know if Japanese Taisha ryu practitioners really did use thick club like bokken in the past or if this is one of Nioh's embellishments? From what I can tell from some photos of modern Taisha ryu that heavier straight bokken are used but they still look much like a typical bokken and not a Yasuke beating club.
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>>48047 Like these specifically.
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I really hate that the Ukraine-Russian war has pushed so much of the other discussion out of the board. To get back on topic I only recently discovered that there is a rare polearm variation of the kusarigama. The Okusarigama.
>>48645 No you don't.
>>48652 I promise you that I had no idea these things existed. I also discovered that at the close of the Heian era the Japanese used weaponized rakes.
>>48662 >weaponized rakes We can only hope they come back into fashion soon.
>>48663 >only hope Didn't Trudy just recently rake ya'll funs? whimpers in 2A
>>24808 They've got some of those dagger-axes in Wo Long.
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I can't believe that there's no shotel pics here. I wouldn't mind having one. They look like they would be really versatile, even in modern times.
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I wonder about what makes the different shotel designs. Are they regional or do they represent different developments over time? I tend to think of the long thin types as the "real" shotel, but I'm not sure if that's accurate.
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>the arabs use to have trick weapons before they all decided to go and join the Powder Kegs

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