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/out/doorsmanship Strelok 12/05/2020 (Sat) 03:47:46 No.10262
A thread dedicated to camping, hiking, traveling, outdoor sports, and general outdoorsmanship. The fresh open air, clear blue skies, ice-cold white winters, and grey-black storms that threaten fire and flash floods are your domain Strelok. What will you make of it? Have you done any camping in the last year? Are you making sure to get that D get sunlight for your eyes and general health? Even in a concrete jungle there's usually great secrets to be found with a little time, exploration, and innovation.
>>10535 If you can recognize them, Persimmons are useful if you need to tan or preserve stuff. Just don't eat the fruit before its nonastringent unless you want bezoars (furrballs for humans in your gut).
>>10535 >spoiler Actually I think i recall there being an MRE thread back on 8/k/. I mostly lurked as I didn't really have anything constructive to say. Truthfully, there is a lot here to talk about in terms of /k/ food. MREs, making your own MREs as you've said, best way to prepare game in the field or at home, how to skin game, what's what best mess kit... etc. I could go but I think you get the point. Anyways, I actually think on that we should keep the topic of /k/ food in this thread unless other wise needed. On the topic of camping, I am a little bit disappointed to say that it's been around 2 years since I've really done any kind of camping. I did a lot when i was younger and that was probably some of the best memories I made with my family since then. When camping, it was mostly with a trailer. I haven't done tent camping in probably more than 10 years. The food I brought with me reflects this because I had a small fridge. I would basically bring mostly everything I would have at home. So, eggs, bacon, bread. I would bring things like trail mix with me as well when I went hiking into the woods. Here are some pictures that should help contribute to the conversation.
>>10535 >Feed five 5 men for a weekend (<3) day with 2000 Kcal a day I'm confused, the 1 mre is supposed to feed 5 men for 3 days.
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>>10535 There was definitely a thread on 8/k/ about this. It's not hard, just mostly a matter of finding the right sort of things that are available to you, that are shelf stable. It's going to end up being a lot heavier than mountain house or real MREs, that's the trade off. Look for things like canned meats, ham flakes and tuna are great. Crackers can be found in individual packs, look for something like skyflakes or pilot biscuits. You can find instant rice type sides, like uncle ben's that are single serving, instant oatmeal for breakfasts and so on. Just keep thinking along those lines to find enough stuff to pad out a day worth. Then just top it off with the extras of sugar, jam, instant coffee packs, teabags, etc. Add a little pack of cigarettes and a book of matches if you really want that WWI vibe to go with all the canned foods. >>10443 Not the same guy, but it's good to be home.
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>>10857 >Add a little pack of cigarettes and a book of matches if you really want that WWI vibe to go with all the canned foods. I add little 5 ct bundles of smokes to my homebrew MREs. Generic freezer bags and bulk mylar helps for making your own single serving packs of whatever. I make them up during the winter when the humidity is super low. It's pretty tedious work so it's worth the time to prepare some tools and your methods beforehand. I modified a guillotine paper cutter with the heated sealing element from a broken foodsaver on the opposite side of the platform. A hinged piece of scrap wood with high temp silicone for the sealing edge swings down to meet the heating element that is affixed to the edge of the platform. It looks like some frankenstein shit, but I only have $15 into it) >pic related, just imagine the free side populated with the sealing parts and a gutted foodsaver dangling off the back
>>10873 Nice, I'm thinking of making some this winter as well when I have a bunch of free time. Got an recipes you care to share, or do you just make it up as you go along? No real point in posting about it now, but I'd like to see the old innawoods challenges come back next summer, like the old $20 overnight challenge. If this board lasts that long
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What kind of MRE does /k/ take with them when they go innawoods? I was looking to buy some for myself as I wanted to take them hunting and camping. Also I have some friends I wanted to take with me as well and they have lost most of their teeth so I would like the food to be fairly soft, if possible.
>>11620 This is a kind reminder that you probably shouldn't be using google. This isn't /tech/ so I won't judge you for it (and at worse, its indirectly advertising for google, but I do not view it as deliberately shilling outside ib links.. much like archive it serves a purpose), but it's generally a bad taste compared to uploading these files locally on the pdf/webm thread and/or hosting on another site Mega is a FBI op and shouldn't be trusted. I'll try to get some sort of alternate upload/torrent added but currently since my internet is ran by the equivalent of the USPS and it is slow as fuck. >edited for forgetting to write advertising for, I need my morning coffee.
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>>10535 In a 3 day bag I planned, the food consisted of crackers, different kinds of trail mix, and some neat canned tuna salad I bought at krogers, but haven't seen sold in years. I thought about bringing pasta like orzo in my current bag. I'm thinking olive oil would be great to bring, to add to grains in cooking, since it's dense in calories. The only problem I see is storing it and making sure it doesn't spill all over my stuff in my bag. Got any container recommendations? Unrelated to cooking; also looking for flashlight or lantern recommendations.
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>>15552 Oil is tricky, i would use fat or lard instead. But if you really need read: want oil, you can try using those small, one-gulp glass bottles that booze comes in (pic related). They're often sold at gas stations, at least here in Europe, i don't know about america or russia, but i think you can find something similar, just make sure it's a screw-on cap and has a plastic insert in it. You can also pack it a plastic bag, just to be sure, but i never had any spillage with those (i keep a bit of oil for my gun in one of those, because i don't wanna haul an entire bottle of lube around.)
>>15552 >consisted of crackers Unless you regularly like eating crackers or plan to go innamountains, fats and proteins should almost always be given priority over carbs outside of morale sweets and filler agents like pasta. >The only problem I see is storing it and making sure it doesn't spill all over my stuff in my bag. Got any container recommendations? If your meals are individually separated, take advice from >>15563 those nips are perfect portion sizes for oil and the alcohol means the bottle is pre-sterilized. They work great for vinegar and seasoning oils too. If you don't mind lugging around a larger thing of oil for several meals, a vacuum-sealed stainless steel water bottle with a tapered top makes a perfectly fine oil storage container that can take being in direct sunlight for a couple hours. Infrequently. Still, solid fats are preferable. If you're planning rustic cooking, look into getting and rendering some suet from a local butcher (ask specifically for kidney fat) and render it into tallow for that extra nice touch.
>>10535 >What food that you anons bring when you camp? Depends what I am planing to do when going outside and how long I stay. I am comfortable enough with my local flora&fauna that I could go full survival and just live from what I find in nature, but hunting&gathering takes a lot of time and it woiuld fill up most of my day. Because of this if I want to explore and cover much ground, I just pack a bunch of dried meat/sausages, protein&muesli bars and water and consume that on the way. Equally if it's just one or two days, why stress myself out about food when I can simply take a can of stew or canned ravioli from the store with me? If you go hunting, take the ingredients with you to make most of the fresh meat that you will get. If it is a longer camping trip I simply would buy good quality food that I would also have a home that dosn't spoil if it isn't cooled, about enough for a week and the resuply at a farmers' market once I run out. >Minimum of one year of shelf life, maybe two years if possible >Must have little none preparatory work for meals >Preferably little to no synthetic/shitty ingredients Those things exclude each other when it comes to food and you only can find a balance. The more you preserve a food and make it self stable, the more you have things in it you don't actually want to have in your food. The freshest and purest ingredients require more preparatory work if you actually cook a meal with them and don't eat them raw. For example meat that has been salted to preserve it has too much salt in it to be healthy, you either have to remove the salt during cooking or drink a tone of water to make up for it.
>>10535 >camping not camping, but sometimes i hike. I mostly take a mix of bought plain nuts, and some home-dried fruit. Additionally, some slices of bread, and a piece of dried sausage for protein and salt. It's not super fancy, but it get's me through the day, and keeps me on my legs. >minimum one year shelf life do some preserving maybe? I got into it pretty recently, just last year i started drying fruits and vegetables, this year i wanna try drying meat, and now that i have a welder, i can try building a smoker and smoke some meats. Put some work into it, preserving food takes lots of work and dedication, but it's so worth it (dried pears are so damn delicious, i almost like 'em more than fresh ones).
Has /k/ ever encountered anything paranormal or spooky while innawoods?
>>16056 A few. Mainly fairies that saved me from a disaster like falling from a 20 foot ledge during a rainstorm, or the malevolent ones that killed my friend's dog after he disrespected the campsite. Nothing too crazy.
>>16056 Only in my house.
Is there any truth to the whole keeping a middle C tuning fork around when manually pollinating flowers since it's the same frequency bumblebees vibrate at to collect pollen?
>>16122 It's technically true but practically it mostly just applies to tomatos and a few others.
Whats a good way to get rid of ticks and chiggers before and after they get on you? I was thinking maybe figuring out what can be ingested on a daily basis that would make me unpaletteable or secreting an aroma that acts as a natural repellent.
>>16138 Boots, bloused pants, long sleeves and gloves to keep them off you. After that theres a bunch of walmart ointments that irritate ticks and seal chiggers to their fate. Not much else to do since you arent a dog.
>>16138 Ticks rely on a mixture of smelling the CO2 coming off your body and heat/light changes to detect humans. That being said, peppermint oil drives away most arachnids and bugs including ticks, and both lemongrass and citronella are effective as well. To be honest listen to >>16141 and maybe dab some citronella or lemongrass essential oil on your appendages. There's plenty of colognes that double as insect repellant due to the presence of citronella. It also keeps away mosquitos.
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>>16141 >Boots, bloused pants, long sleeves and gloves to keep them off you. Add a hat with a brim and a head net then even the mosquitoes and black flies can't get you. If you don't mind using chemicals, DEET will keep them off of your skin and permethrin will treat clothing for a few months or a few washings, whichever comes first. I found a good knife for generic camping and bush-craft purposes. I bought a Morakniv Kansbol because I wanted to see if Moras live up to the hype, it put me over the free shipping threshold, and it looked cool. After playing with it a bit It really does seem versatile, the compound grind works for carving and slicing. The bleeding finger pictogram on the box is right too. I cut myself seeing if it would shave the hair on the back of my hand. It's the sharpest knife out of the box that I've seen so far. I know I sound like a shill but I am genuinely pleased with what is essentially an impulse buy. It just seems to fit the archetype of KNIFE in the primitive part of my mind.
>>17442 I got a cheapo mora I found somewhere. Its probably one of the better knifes I got where I can use and trash it through work.
>>17442 >People using actually bought knives from high grade steel, caring for it, using it for work. >Me, found an shitty dull kitchen knife with reasonably thick blade, sharpened to a workable blade, uses it for carving wood and cutting my steak. Am I wrong? Or am I just a poorfag?
>>17452 If it works it works man.
>>17452 Knife is merely a sharpened piece of metal. If it works then it's good enough.
>>17452 Depends on the application. I hate niggers who use other people's knife tips as a flathead screwdriver. My favorite everyday carry knife is an incredibly cheap piece of fucking garbage $1.50 Walmart pocket knife. I use it maybe 1-5 times a day at work to cut through shit when dull scissors won't cut it or when I forget a butter knife for spreading something, sharpen it every 10 uses or so for a few minutes, and it works great. Probably wouldn't survive stabbing someone more than twice, but who gives a shit?
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>>11625 >have some friends I wanted to take with me as well >I would like the food to be fairly soft, if possible Now here is the thing. There is a reason imho, why most prepared meals are either powdered, ground, or dried somehow. Soft condition often means not a great shelf life, unless it's a fluid to begin with. Maybe when stuff is frozen stiff, but that is another thing. At least that's how I get it. This is why you can get milk powder, or some syrups you need to mix with water. Also why ppl usually recommend solid fats over oils. What you can do is soak whatever you take with you, and/or cook it. So extra water, will do magic. If you can prepare a rich soup or stew this would be best I guess. Does not take long either. You could use canned food as a base (veggies like beans a.o.), add cut stuff from packs for taste (e.g. dry sausage, meat, spices), let it soak well and soften. Something warm gives a good feel in your tummy. Stove, pot, water, heat tablets (as fire starters) take up space, keep that in mind, but you can use the pot as container, an advantage I guess. If you are a group everyone can pack a bit more, too. And it should come way cheaper than buying fancy processed foods. I consider such emergency foods, rather for when you really have the need. For onnaway rations when you cannot/don't wanna stop, crackers and muesli/candy bars is good to give an energy boost. Even without decent dentures your rascals should be able to munch them. Just don't get extra hard to bite ones, e.g. with whole nuts. They can keep them packed, break pieces off and just suck. When dissolved in the mouth, swallow. Is how I do it too.
Have a TRS x8 stinger throwing knife and made a Paracord handle for it. I do not have a sheath or a holster for it and don't know where to find one able to be attached to molle gear. How useful is it for outdoorsman use?
>>19758 >TRS x8 stinger throwing knife, do not have a sheath or holster, don't know where to find one able to be attached to molle gear. If you get a sheath, glue/sew/stud molle patch to one side? I would try fix it in two ways (for fail safety). If you get none try make one: Solid thick plastic, cut out two-sided sheath form (leave some room for tip and blade, tighter at the opening/handle end). Press to bend down (like in a vice), glue/melt ends together (plastic should melt). Sew sheath all around so it will hold together, should work imho. Maybe reinforce opening end with an extra layer of material all around. Making your own it will be easier to add a hook, molle patch, what you want to it. You can use other material (leather, rugged cloth), glue sheet metal (brass lining) to inside, to not cut the sheath too much from inside when sliding the knife in and out. For inspiration: diy knife sheath - websearch >How useful is it for outdoorsman use? >>17453 >>17469 especially >>17477 Have fun using it, don't abuse it. Seems like an okay knife, you have to test tbh. Don't forget a whetstone. Report back.
Do you think a Japanese futon would be good for camping if lined with an additional insulating layer of newspaper would work for spring/autumn nights? My thought process is that the bed one sleeps in could also be the bed one sleeps in when camping or bugging out. Therefore it will make anon more relaxed when camping away from home. It takes up about the same space as a cot anyways, and doubles as back armor against smaller munitions unlike a cot.
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Luckily the next best mountain range is only an hours train ride away from my central european city so I can prepere for the imminent collapse I have never done something like that before and am scared of the wild. The only camping experience I have was in camping grounds which can hardly be considered wilderness. So I have a few questions. Please be patient, I'm a newfag. Do you think boars and other wild animals, perhaps even wolfs, a danger for camping in the middle of nowhere? How do I best protect myself against that without guns? Machete, axe? Can you pls spoonfeed me a newbie packing guide of some sort, Strelok kun? Any ressources. I want to stop planning and thinking and finally take action.
>>19753 I already have an alcohol stove to boil me some instant noodles, so that's what I would eat. But in the long run I would also need something more nutritious that's cheap and can be easily prepared.
>>34354 >Chance of wild animals Look up what predators reside in the region you are in or near. Adjust accordingly. Against everything? Look big and be prepared to chuck something at it if it approaches anyways, but do not stoop to pick up whatever you chuck at it. Pretty much everything will avoid you because humans are more trouble than they are worth and are a fairly shitty source of meat. Mountain Lions and black bears can be warded off with a moderate stick, sap, or cudgel. Boars can too but not without injuries that will require immediate medical attention. If bit by a snake it depends since 80-90% aren't poisonous, but just avoid those fuckers since the alternative is a very slow and painful walk back to the nearest civilization or lying down and hoping paramedics/park rangers get to you in time. Wolves don't bother humans directly unless they are tundra wolves or fucking hungry, so they aren't really a concern unless camping alone. Same with coyotes for desert environments. If you are camping alone then keep a fire going in wolf-infested areas. In general: Keep a bell attached to your pack or belt to generally ward off mountain predators and keep a walking stick on hand for self defense, maybe a sap cap. Leave the axe at camp where it belongs for chopping wood. >Newbie packing guide Go watch Yuru Camp. >A real packing guide For truck-camping (where you can haul everything in a truck or trailer to the camping destination) For late spring/early summer trips I'd probably take... >Enough water for however many days (assume a gallon for drinking and a gallon for drinking per day) >However much food you plan to eat that you don't plan to acquire >Ziplock bags for sealing waste >Hand sanitizer to remove smell on hands (and for sterilization after a poop or flocking in the warest >An axe for splitting wood >Toilet paper or sanitary wipes for doing your business >Tent >Cot and sleeping bag >Fire starter blocks >A hammer of some sort for the tent pegs >A shovel/spade for burying your business >Whatever amenities you intend to bring with you >Any resources https://scouting4boysorg.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/boy-scout-handbook-1967-processed.pdf
>>34394 Thank you. That will get me started good. I guess the boy scouts guide is more for historical interest and on comradeship I will never experience
>>10354 Anon, I'm also a huge sperg who's living with his parents and currently undergoing job raining in trannynigger central . Try to make the best of it. Leech as much money as possible. Just be perpeared for the day when that won't be possible anymore.
>>34394 >open campfires against predators that may be problematic since it propably isn't legal to camp there
i started building a log cabin on public land and took a shit in a river
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>>34394 Hammocks seem a lot safer and easier to set up than tents. It seems like the best way for illegal camping innawoods. Anybody got experience with hammocks?
>>34466 That's pretty cool anon. Tell us more. How did you build the cabin?
>>34523 >that flying-saucer tent Lol. Where do I find this?
>>10287 >half the free sites are just guys saying it's ok to sleep in your car in a walmart parking lot americancamping.png
>>34394 >Same with coyotes for desert environments The coyotes are all over North America. There is speculation that the ones that re-introduced themselves into the North East US are likely coy-wolves that came south from Canada. I've seen one on a trail cam this winter that didn't seem to have much coyote in it at all. I also just now remembered where my missing trail cam is hanging.
>>34523 The last one looks mega comfy.
>>34531 I just went searching for hammock tents.
>>34536 >The coyotes are all over North America. There is speculation that the ones that re-introduced themselves into the North East US are likely coy-wolves that came south from Canada. So, is there any reason why they did not do that long time ago? I mean race mixing on such scale?

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