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29:64 "This worldly life is no more than play and amusement. But the Hereafter is indeed the real life, if only they knew."


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Daniel Haqiqatjou فلان 08/16/2022 (Tue) 11:54:15 ID: 0df8d9 No.486 [Reply]
Thoughts on Daniel Haqiqatjou? Seems like he's the only Muslims that been debating various kind of people lately.
>Seems like he's the only Muslims that been debating various kind of people lately. Hes a Hanbali larper but it's better than nothing tbh.
>>488 >Hanbali larper And what do you mean by that?
>>486 >Thoughts on Daniel Haqiqatjou? He's a Muslim youtuber, content creator. May Allah guide him. >Seems like he's the only Muslims that been debating various kind of people lately. I assume you have never heard of actual scholars, shuyukh. Daniel is a student of knowledge, not an actual scholar. All these young Muslim youtubers should be less engaged in debating and more focused on teaching tawhid, in my opinion. The priorities are all scrambled because of social media and relevance
>>537 True, seems there's a lot of drama going on between all these content creators all trying to one-up and "refute" each other. It's sad to see since this platform can be used for so much good.
>>546 it's children larping as learned elders

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Why dont muslims write narratives about great islamic figures? فلان 02/01/2022 (Tue) 12:20:40 ID: 2e5578 No.329 [Reply]
like epic poems, plays etc.? With an islamic lesson instead of a greek one at the end? And why dont we produce great works of visual art anymore? Especially when there are hadith about portraits being made of the prophet ﷺ during his lifetime? This concept of artistic restriction doesnt even seem to be rightly based in salaf, so I dont understand why these themes have become so common in the muslim world, when they hurt us more than they benefit us, I mean, we have little to no media presence, what does that do for our Ummah? It makes us artistically dependant on the west, and this eventually depleats young muslims of their values; I feel like this whole concept of bidah excludes the fact that muslims live a reality outside of worship and in all honesty, sometimes I feel as if bidah has become a form of bidah on its own right.
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https://abutoctoc.bitbucket.io/deen.html >tfw not good enough at poetry That's why i'm learning arabic, i want to read poetry written by the scholars too they're pretty nice That being said, indulging the heart's passions and desire for entertainment too much benefits no one. >we have little to no media presence, what does that do for our Ummah? I ask myself what the opposite would do for the Ummah. Practicing Islam (getting up early, not eating too much, holding one's tongue and lower one's gaze, not hurting others with words, not accepting shady money, etc) is all about disciplining the mind against the desires of the nafs. And this is not the path of passion and art imo, which is why I believe cultivating this inclination (too much) isn't beneficial. Look what the media did to the world: all those who consoom it become mindless and weak-minded, don't let their hysterical mania impress you. They can't stand up for what they believe in precisely because they believe in nothing, they are moved not by conviction but by addiction and hedonism. The emergence of social media dragged with it the spread of gyms and bodybuilding. It is nice that people are taking care of their health but for what purpose ? Insta selfies. Do we want muslims to pray more to get likes or to follow the latest cringeTok influencer ? Or should our practice be motivated only by the expectation of God's rewards and the gratefulness for his blessings ? allahu a3lam
>>339 media is a tool, you act like kufr is inherent to it, i say no, it is precisely because of our ignorance of it that it is this way and that it is having the impact it does on the ummah, it is indefinetly our responsibility to not make it that way and fix the state of media as good muslims who care about the people who are subjected to the filth in the media, all youre doing by letting this happen, is gatekeeping islam when we're supposed to be proselytizing
>>329 The best thing for you to do is to start making something worth a damn instead of typing this jibberish on an obscure imageboard
>>329 >Especially when there are hadith about portraits being made of the prophet ﷺ during his lifetime? Are there really?
>Why dont muslims write narratives about great islamic figures? Because they suck as writers today? Because they're more concerned with careers than dreaming? >And why dont we produce great works of visual art anymore? Anymore? Because you are not creeative. Because we live in a time where the main goal is the pursuit of money and not creative expression and the art world is run by kufaar reprobates. >Especially when there are hadith about portraits being made of the prophet ﷺ during his lifetime? What hadith is this? >This concept of artistic restriction doesnt even seem to be rightly based in salaf, so I dont understand why these themes have become so common in the muslim world, when they hurt us more than they benefit us, The ONLY restrictions on artistic expression is the prohibition of figural representation (sculpting, drawing or painting the human or animal form), and music. Other than that, there seems to be no restriction other than a cultural one. Alhamdulillah I was not born into an Arab, Desi or African family, since these tend to be the culprits of cultural imposition onto the religion. >I mean, we have little to no media presence, Who cares? It isn't that important. Do you even read the Qur'an? >what does that do for our Ummah? Keeps it safe from imitating the kufaar. As a matter of fact, the lack of presence in the media is a strength that makes the Muslim unique. Stop trying to be like a kafir. >It makes us artistically dependent on the west, No, it doesn't >and this eventually depleats young muslims of their values; No, actually, striving to be seen in media and to be part of the crowd is what is depleating young Muslim values. They're so busy trying to be "cool" like the kufaar that they begin to sell their religion out for likes and follows. >I feel like this whole concept of bidah excludes the fact that muslims live a reality outside of worship

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Thoughts on Sufi Islam فلان 10/02/2021 (Sat) 16:10:36 No.292 [Reply]
They seem very different from Sunnis and Shi'as. Are they "real" Muslims or a completely separate religion?
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>>292 Sufis emphasises inner jihad as greater than the outer, for some people it isn't enough to simply fulfil the sharia but to seek spiritual union with Alllah notably through dikhr.
>>292 they're not a seperate denomination from Sunni or Shia but an aspect of those two denominations which is Sufisms foundation
>>458 So there are both Sunni Sufis and Shia Sufis? What's the difference between the two?
>>292 There is no precedence for sufism in Islam, hence, it is technically deviation. They introduce practices not legislated by Allah and His Messenger صلى الله عليه وآله وصحبه وسلم so, anything not found in the religion is rejected and in hell.
>>342 >some salafis like to lump all sufis together and throw the bag in the river but this simply deceitful The problem is that there is absolutely NO sufi tradition in the religion of Islam. Sufis may adopt Islamic practice but the fact is that anyone that claims to be a Sufi is more likely than not a deviant. There is no Muslim in their right mind, striving upon the Qur'an and Sunnah as was understood by the Prophet and the Sahabah, that would say "I am a sufi" because there is no validity in that statement. Sufism as a movement is a deviant movement despite their outward appearance and adherence to some or several Islamic legislated practices. The problem is that most people want a kumbaya version of Islam that pleases everyone , so they open the doors for anyone to claim anything without question, and then those striving for the sake of Allah are demonized because they are preserving to sanctity of the religion.

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Vinegar & Other Considerations In Modern Times Anonymous 02/27/2021 (Sat) 23:41:37 ID: 874a6b No.194 [Reply]
Muhammad was pretty fond of vinegar despite it being the result of the breakdown of alcohol. He even came up with an entire halal vinegar-making distillation process (Takhammur/Takhallul processes) that was meant to prevent the vinegar-makers from having access to the alcoholic juice during the alcohol distillation. Such processes seemed more to be for the benefit and consideration of the workers so that they would not run afoul of the laws of the land during the time period (by producing alcohol) rather than out of religious necessity since vinegar was traditionally produced in what would be considered small/"home brew" batches. In the age of industrial processes that effectively separate the worker from his ability to sin by producing the vinegar products of wines/grains in processes where it would be extremely difficult to produce and the vinegar producers themselves are generally of the company sort that are reputable/not known for imbibing in the alcohols used to produce their vinegars, should such considerations for the halal vinegar-making process still be taken into account to protect the individual from sin outside of homebrew application using halal measures? Are there any other food production or sin-related measures that /islam/ would take into consideration with modern times separating the purely religious reasonings that should be absolutely followed from the practical application reasonings that were implemented for the protection of the individual? Disclaimer: I'm a Christian of the old faith branches so I understand religious significance in modern times and this is all just philosophical.
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>>195 I always heard there was a Hadith that said "What is haram in big amounts is haram in little. "
>>194 >Are there any other food production or sin-related measures that /islam/ would take into consideration with modern times separating the purely religious reasonings that should be absolutely followed from the practical application reasonings that were implemented for the protection of the individual? Well, I can tell you what wasn't taken into consideration : factory farm animal meat. Halal, when it comes to procuring animal meat, is about minimizing the suffering of the animal. The precautions taken when slaughtering an animal (ie : making sure the blade is sharp, keeping the slaughter scene away from other animals, etc) are all for this reason. But now, we have factory farms, and I don't need to tell you how they trea the animals there. The point is : would slaughtering the animal according to Islamic teachings still make its meat halal, when the animal had suffered all throughout its life under the farm's supervision?
>>270 I would say no, personally.
Just buy acetic acid, or make it by transmethylating another carboxylic acid or by bubbling carbon monoxide through methanol. Then add flavoring. There are also bacteria that make it directly from sugar, though there is always the risk of also making ethanol. Plenty of ways to make vinegar without involving ethanol. Distilling vinegar is also notoriously difficult ⚗️
Alcohol is haram because it gets you drunk. Anything that gets you drunk and high is haram. If it intoxicates you, it is illegal. And by intoxicate I mean, takes you out of your normal cognitive function (vinegar, coffee/caffeine, cologne and rubbing alcohol do NOT do this).

فلان 09/20/2022 (Tue) 18:14:50 ID: eed2a9 No.527 [Reply]
Kinda sucks how you can't eat pork when you are Muslim.
Pork tastes good but I'd rather eat the plentiful and delicious foods of Paradise, which are much better than those here on earth. If you are not a Muslim you'll sadly miss out on those.
>>527 >Kinda sucks how you can't eat pork when you are Muslim. Sucks? Not really. As a revert, I don't even think about it since there are billions of other halal things to eat. I've eaten my fair share of pernil con arroz y habichuelas, chicharon, bacon, pork chops, tacos de carnitas, mexican pork rinds, ham and cuban sandwiches, pepperoni pizza etc etc. I've washed this stuff down with more alcohol than the average person. And I don't care for pork. It doesn't matter at all actually. Why non-Muslims lament not eating pork is beyond me.

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/islam/'s team for the Infinity Cup 2020 Anonymous 05/11/2020 (Mon) 21:40:15 ID: f88932 No.17 [Reply]
Hello, my Islamic friends, I was wondering if you would be interested in joining us for the Infinity Cup 2020, if not as a team of your own at least as friendly spectators. We'd love to have you with us. Come to https://anon.cafe/icup/ if you want the details. It's a virtual soccer competition among boards.
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>>513 /late/ & /comfy/ 3 - 0 /cuckquean/
>>515 Should say /islam/ there
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Infinity Cup 7 is now complete! Congratulations to /eris/ who joins the ranks of champions as they defeated /japan/ 3-1 in the Final! Stay tuned for the award winners over at our /icup/ board. Thank you to every anon who chipped in throughout the Cup, and thank you especially to all the anons who took the time to tune in. We'll see you in the next one!
I've had an idea. Since the team is playing so badly, why don't we just take the player names from the enemies of the religion? Make a team out of Fir'auns, Nimrods and Abu Lahabs. Then we can all laugh at them together. I don't feel like it's appropriate to use the names of sahabis and great scholars anyhow.
It's not possible for /islam/ to participate in this event anymore, for these reasons: The icup chatroom is a sinful gathering of people who speak idly, are of bad character, and who oppose Allah and His Messenger, with few exceptions. By having joined it we have taken a share of this evil. Allah Ta'ala says: وَقَدْ نَزَّلَ عَلَيْكُمْ فِي الْكِتَابِ أَنْ إِذَا سَمِعْتُمْ آيَاتِ اللَّهِ يُكْفَرُ بِهَا وَيُسْتَهْزَأُ بِهَا فَلَا تَقْعُدُوا مَعَهُمْ حَتَّىٰ يَخُوضُوا فِي حَدِيثٍ غَيْرِهِ ۚ إِنَّكُمْ إِذًا مِّثْلُهُمْ ۗ إِنَّ اللَّهَ جَامِعُ الْمُنَافِقِينَ وَالْكَافِرِينَ فِي جَهَنَّمَ جَمِيعًا "He hath already revealed unto you in the Scripture that, when ye hear the revelations of Allah rejected and derided, (ye) sit not with them (who disbelieve and mock) until they engage in some other conversation. Lo! in that case (if ye stayed) ye would be like unto them. Lo! Allah will gather hypocrites and disbelievers, all together, into hell" (4:140) And He says: وَإِذَا رَأَيْتَ الَّذِينَ يَخُوضُونَ فِي آيَاتِنَا فَأَعْرِضْ عَنْهُمْ حَتَّىٰ يَخُوضُوا فِي حَدِيثٍ غَيْرِهِ ۚ وَإِمَّا يُنسِيَنَّكَ الشَّيْطَانُ فَلَا تَقْعُدْ بَعْدَ الذِّكْرَىٰ مَعَ الْقَوْمِ الظَّالِمِينَ "And when thou seest those who meddle with Our revelations, withdraw from them until they meddle with another topic. And if the devil cause thee to forget, sit not, after the remembrance, with the congregation of wrong-doers." (6:68) And He says: وَإِذَا سَمِعُوا اللَّغْوَ أَعْرَضُوا عَنْهُ وَقَالُوا لَنَا أَعْمَالُنَا وَلَكُمْ أَعْمَالُكُمْ سَلَامٌ عَلَيْكُمْ لَا نَبْتَغِي الْجَاهِلِينَ "And when they hear vanity they withdraw from it and say: Unto us our works and unto you your works. Peace be unto you! We desire not the ignorant." (28:55) Abu Hurairah (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "A person utters a word thoughtlessly (i.e., without thinking about its being good or not) and, as a result of this, he will fall down into the fire of Hell deeper than the distance between the east and the west." (Agreed upon.)

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Good news فلان 09/09/2022 (Fri) 15:59:30 ID: 1d1e8f No.518 [Reply]

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Ashura, the tenth day of Muharram فلان 08/05/2022 (Fri) 13:09:05 ID: 7fdd32 No.455 [Reply]
Reminder! Only a few days remain until the day of Ashura, brothers. The fasting on this day erases the sins of the previous year. Ibn Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, was asked about observing of fast on the day of Ashura, whereupon he said: "I do not know Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) singling out any day's fast and considering it more excellent than another, except this day (the day of Ashura) and this month, meaning the month of Ramadan." Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1132a Abu Qatadah reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, was asked about fasting the day of Arafat and he said, "It will expiate the sins of the previous and upcoming years." Then, the Prophet was asked about fasting the day of Ashura and he said, "It will expiate the sins of the past year." Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1162

فلان 07/31/2022 (Sun) 07:42:29 ID: ddecb1 No.436 [Reply]
On Friday was the first day of the new Hijri year 1444. May Allah grant us peace in this year and keep us away from evil.
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>>>/christian/15537 Why don't they stop
>>440 They do not fear the One to whom they will return. Their spam will be deleted, but the records of their deeds will be kept. In the end, they're only hurting themselves, in this life and the next.
>>441 Please go away, pedo.
>>437 >>442 Just Christians showing us their idea of piety.
>>440 they arent Christians theyre raiders. ignore and report.

"Oh those who sell themselves for the race" فلان 06/08/2022 (Wed) 00:40:35 No.385 [Reply]
What exactly did they mean by this? I thought Islam was supposed to be a race neutral religion but I guess not.
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>>392 Who mentions that? That wasn't in the video you posted, unless I missed it. Note that Islam denounces and opposes distinguishing or discriminating people by their race. Allah says in His Book: "O mankind! Lo! We have created you male and female, and have made you nations and tribes that ye may know one another. Lo! the noblest of you, in the sight of Allah, is the best in conduct. Lo! Allah is Knower, Aware." (49:13) Narrated Ibn 'Umar that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) gave a Khutbah to the people on the day of the conquest of Makkah, and he said: "O you people! Verily Allah has removed the slogans of Jahiliyyah from you, and its reverence of its forefathers. So, now there are two types of men: A man who is righteous, has Taqwa and honorable before Allah, and a wicked man, who is miserable and insignificant to Allah. People are children of Adam and Allah created Adam from the dust. Allah said: O you people! We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Verily, the most honorable of you with Allah is the one who has most Taqwa. Verily, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware (49:13)." (Tirmidhi 3270, Grade: Hassan) >What is that? Arabic 2nd person pronouns. Singular masculine, singular feminine, dual, plural masculine, plural feminine, in that order.
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>>394 The singer uses the word nasab نسب which means ancestry, genealogy or affinity, it seems he is referring to the Arabs with that song.
>>401 Are there any similar songs not in Arabic?
>>402 I would think that every nation of history makes songs referring to themselves, so yes. If you mean nasheed specifically, then I don't know, I don't think there are many non-Arabic ones in the first place.

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