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Film restoration/recovery Anonymous 09/01/2020 (Tue) 16:19:58 No.429
[JW08 ~ 08/27/2019] Recently started to dig up some "forgotten" films that need love in order to restore or redistribute them. Let me know if you want me to look up a specific film you're interested in, right now we just finished a second try restoration for Madness by Cesare Rau https://youtube.com/watch?v=PI_wY7EUU_M ...and next we want to move onto Cerco de Terror and Appuntamento a Dallas. (The first edition of Madness had a bit of color correction problems, it was too fucking dark at times) On 8chan someone requested Gillo Pontecorvo's La Grande Strada Azzurra, so we're currently working on that too.
<Over the past year, I spent most of my free time restoring (and learning how to restore) this vintage 12 minute exhibitors reel from 1975. Finally finished it and posted it on YouTube. Here is the link to watch as well as more info below. Logan's Run: Selected Scenes '75 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seAFOzrAds8 Logan's Run: Selected Scenes '76 (raw vs. recolor) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3-ScJLFXqk <Created in November 1975, this is the earliest known compilation of footage from MGM's LOGAN'S RUN (released June 1976). Designed to be shown to theater owners and industry professionals, but deemed too slow paced. Instead it was further trimmed down resulting in the quicker paced Selected Scenes '76 (running only 7 minutes long). <Since it was never intended to be seen by paying audiences, quite a few "spoilers" are included. It also contains clips from deleted scenes, as well as alternate camera angles of familiar sequences from the released film. The music is from ICE STATION ZEBRA (1968) because Jerry Goldsmith had not yet finished composing the score for LOGAN'S RUN. <Never issued on any home video format, Selected Scenes '75 is scanned and restored from a badly damaged vintage 35mm film print. Perhaps the only print left in existence.
>>488 Great work anon! Always neat to see things like this
>>484 Could you also post a mega link? Thanks in advance.
>>484 Hopefully the requester got it somehow...
>>490 I'm still alive anon, I'll post the mega link. I was looking for a platform where I could host a file of that type, you've just reminded me. I will rip the film and drop a mega link this week, I promise.
>>491 I did, I've just been busy with work lately. Being a video game tester drives me crazy.
>>493 >Being a video game tester That sounds awful
>>494 Oh believe me, it is. I work for one of the worst, EA. I'm only here because it pays more and is full-time compared to other jobs in my area.
>>494 Here is the film: https://mega.nz/file/E3hWma4A#qHxT0zbVtz7C4Ddw25YJJREROSrBkU-b7KvP_EpPUfI Note: The audio and picture quality is not the best, but I know you were looking for this film and would like to see it right away. I'm going to keep trying to convert/stream the film via VLC. I attempted to rip it via Handbrake but I think there's some kind of encryption that messes with it through Handbrake.
>>496 If there's encryption on the disc, you could try DVD Decrypter before ripping
>>496 Just use MakeMKV to get a straight mux
>>498 I run a Linux system, that won't work. :/
>>499 Dude LInux is where the whole scene got it's start. Look around.
>>499 Here you go. The essential MKV program. https://mkvtoolnix.download/downloads.html
>>499 MakeMKV supports GNU/Linux, you just have to build it yourself https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=224
[End of Dump JW08 ~ 05/26/2020]
Did we lose this guy? I don't remember him posting after the domain change.
>>572 We lost pretty much everyone. But we'll rise again.
>>572 i think he is on most of the main private trackers
I'm back :) Starting a new scavenger project while I cool down on the other ones (Deserto Bianco/Mio Mare and a few others) "Deserto di Fuoco" from 1971. As soon as my business partner showed me the intro I was in, and now I won't stop working until we get a proper resolution so that we can enjoy this unique opening as God intended.
>>808 Yeah that's a cool intro. Do you have any leads on a film print? The title theme really stands out. I wasn't sure if I'd heard it before, but it's the first track on this big comp of Edda Dell'Orso https://www.discogs.com/Edda-DellOrso-Al-Cinema-Con-Edda-DellOrso/release/484405
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>>809 (Of course it had to be Edda ;) I don't have any leads because I saw it for the first time right before I made the post, so my interest in it is very recent. I wanted to upload the pics from IMDB but I forgot hehe sadly Edwige doesn't use this dress in the film... Maybe she does in an uncut print? One can hope, again...
>>808 Thank you for the work! Glad that you are back and open for suggestion
I always like these side-by-side restoration clips. Here's Сказка о звёздном мальчике (1983) restored by http://d-cinema.by/ from a source which has a lost much of its color to the pink fade. https://invidious.tube/watch?v=ZQPG-G3xkj8 I don't think this film has subtitles anywhere, but it looks interesting. Soviet kids sci-fi based on the writings of Oscar Wilde. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0213249/ There are more restoration clips and complete Belarussian films (without subs) at https://www.youtube.com/c/BelarusfilmDigital/videos
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Have any of you guys tried Topaz Video Enhance? Usually I see it applied to early silent footage, upscaling, adding color and interpolating frames to smooth out the footage. The results can be surprisingly good. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1gVCrX5uEFc0s_8TIYGqmw ("AI" is mostly a marketing term -- it's better to call it "machine learning".)
>>1856 Is it online?
>>1857 I downloaded a pirated version but haven't installed it yet
>>1856 I've used their photo programs and i find the old non-AI versions yield better results, at least the DeNoiser and Sharpener ones, the newer versions took down some comparison tools and streamlined the options to add a general AI slider. Many programs have been fucked in the butthole with this "AI" fad, they were already simple enough to use but with this new wave there's even less options, i fear the actual userbase is not as mentally sharp as i thought. In terms of the Video Enhance one, i've seen results for their 4k conversions/upscale and it leaves tons of artifacts like outlines and mushy texturing that looks like beauty filters, also a pervasive digital fine grain that looks odd in places like skin tones or foliage. Like everything it should be used with moderation, 60FPS doesn't look good with sources that were under 20FPS (like old timey reels) because the technique just multiples frames and makes variations with motion, so low FPS videos suddenly looks like heavily motion-blurred video game footage. The coloring aspect i didn't know, that does sound promising and the only one i can think of because that does save massive amounts of time.
>>1860 >it leaves tons of artifacts like outlines and mushy texturing that looks like beauty filters, also a pervasive digital fine grain that looks odd in places like skin tones or foliage. That's too bad. I haven't actually watched a full film that's been restored like this. I've only seen short clips and screencaps. The person who made Begotten for KG converted the Topaz video output to PNGs and then touched them up with Irfanview and Premiere. From the caps that project looks quite good considering the extremely grainy source, but I didn't actually watch it (and the bluray is supposedly in the works but who knows).
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>>1874 >converted the Topaz video output to PNGs and then touched them up with Irfanview and Premiere That's a double step, intensive but sounds good, he probably moved contrast to pull detail out of the shadows. I recall watching that movie many years ago back in the old, old place but i almost felt asleep, it is an artsy direction with the purposely high key grainy footage so in that case i don't think he had much trouble. >I haven't actually watched a full film that's been restored like this The Gay Porn Acting without the Porn community has some Topaz 4K conversions and few 8K scene upscales if you really want to see what a normal, standard upscale looks like. Here's screencaps comparing the same scene in the classic wholesome, totally non-gay and definitely not awkward dialogue sequence. Because these flicks had native speeds of 30FPS from the typical digital camcorders the 60FPS conversions are not that jarring, 24FPS can still cut it but in old timey sources that have FPS below the 18 count, like 16, 12 or even 8, the footage starts to look jarring. I haven't seen it but i guess if you apply motion blur the program will overwork and produce, i suppose at best, scenes akin to artsy 90s asian action sequences if original footage had considerable camera movement. Interpolation software and procedures have greatly advanced in recent years so that quality gap in low FPS footage can be somewhat narrow now if the original camera position was static, but we are still a bit far from decently upscaling low-resolution footage.
>>1874 I re-edited the trailer for Begotten using his footage so I had to watch that version several times next to the old trailer footage (which wasn't too far from the best source out there) and its a major improvement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGYXpPjdbNU I think this was the perfect storm, Topaz doesn't do well with 480 artifacts but Begotten worked because of the stark black and white. There's a DVD to 4k upscale of Blood In Blood Out that blew up on YT and there's quite a few artifacts, somewhat unnoticeable if you just watch the movie. I've been upscaling music videos with Video Enhance but there's definitely a limit, I think I might start to do them scene by scene to get the best results, still undecided if I should do Madness again, upscaling each scene this time...
I love doing production stills with gigapixel, here's Death of Yazdgerd from 300Kb to 11Mb which seems kind of excessive. >>2654 And De Mille's Male and Female, 36Mb (LOL) https://mega.nz/file/IG1SED7B#oc2f-27uQjGzmdbSOlwoI2DFvK1HSOIoHzowkeAcsfw
Here's a fanmade restoration of an AFI documentary about cinematography featuring interviews with the likes of Vittorio Storaro and Haskell Wexler. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105764/ For a documentary that celebrates high achievements in film photography, the original DVD transfer is barely above VHS quality. This restoration project replaced all film c;lips with contemporary HD transfers from Bluray, TV or Web. The remaining content was upscaled using Gigapixel. https://odysee.com/@film:e/Visions-of-Light---The-Art-of-Cinematography-(1992):7 Since this documentary was made in the pre-internet 1990s, with the participation of Hollywood industry groups that want to promote their product, the scope of discussion is mostly limited to well-known American films. Regardless, it's interesting to hear cinematographers speaking about their visual inspirations, career experiences and creative approaches. There's another fanmade restoration from Deus Ex Film Prof that was deleted from youtube. His version might be more advanced because he superimposes the interview segments atop the film clips. https://twitter.com/DeusExFilmProf/status/675471763875213313 https://secret-cinema.pw/torrents.php?torrentid=34653 (7 GB) https://t.me/NAcinema/903 (900 MB)
Here's a poster restoration, there was a nasty watermark and you can see a bit of a shadow so if anyone can clean it better feel free!
>>2676 Ah, seems like I missed a spot on the upper right, oopsie... And this next one I couldn't clean the watermark without fucking up the background
>>2673 Neat documentary. Good restoration work as well.
>>2670 How do you do that?
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>>2688 Tweaking around with Gigapixel AI, works wonders if you have a fairly decent copy like with >>2676 The De Mille upgrade was fairly simple because the source (taken from the Bonn Festival screening) was already quite good although a bit foggy, Giga only enhanced it further! Here's the original for comparison:
>>2692 LOL I didn't mean to use italics, just ' 'quotes' '
Might not be the best place to ask, but figured I'd try anyway. In 1955 Lee Sun-Fung directed a film titled 寒夜 aka Han Ye aka Cold Nights aka It Was a Cold Winter Night. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0205113/ https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/176323-han-ye This film has made multiple "best of Chinese language" lists, but the film appeared to have been lost, with the only known copy belonging to the Hong Kong Film Archive. However, two versions were uploaded to YouTube sometime last year (both of these have been removed at this point): a 240p version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8JtjfN9jV4 and a 480p version with a watermark https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5iSFirbpPg I downloaded both versions before they were removed from YouTube and I have uploaded them to this mega folder. https://mega.nz/folder/dDF2BZrb#ej8C-XsdmygClo-q9iFsGQ Would someone be able to combine these two sources to create a 480p version without the watermark?
>>2709 Are you sure the 480p is accurate? It could just be a mask from the watermark itself. Regardless, thank you for catching it on time!
>>2710 I'm not sure. I'm not real good with resolutions. I was just going off the dimensions. However, comparing the two screenshots I included, it does look like the 480p version could just be the 240p stretched out and with added pillowboxing
>>2711 pillarboxing*
>>2709 I agree that it looks like the same video upscaled (or re-encoded) But since you bring up logo removal, I know people have had good results with InpaintDelogo https://github.com/Purfview/InpaintDelogo Here is the short guide posted at karagarga ______ 0) Read help/manual(in script) about parameters mentioned below. 1) Run this function to get "Loc" values: InpaintLoc(Loc="100,100,-100,-100"). Adjust "Loc" crop parameters around logo (aka "Left,Top,-Right,-Bottom"). Use even(mod2) numbers. 2) Prepare the "mask" manually, or start InpaintDelogo with "Automask=1" and "Analyze=2", automask result can be adjusted with"aMix". Some basic delogo parameters for non-transparent logo: InpaintDelogo( mask="D:\mask.bmp", Automask=0, aMix=0, Loc="100,100,-100,-100", Mode="Inpaint") Subtitle extractor parameters: SubsMask2Img( ImgDir="", CorrTh=0.8, SubTune=235, SubMinDur=12, SubSuspect=0, ImgType="png", ImgInflate=0, ImgInvert=0, ImgSize=1 )
>>2713 thanks! I'll definitely look into that. now I just need to find someone who can translate this film so I can actually watch it
>>450 >Also, the start of this movie is like an alternative dimension version of Xavier: Renegade Angel. WHICH MOVIE WAS IT, ANON?!
>>2978 This, also interested as i don't recall that
It looks like that was originally posted on julay so who knows...
>>2978 >>2979 >>2981 This might've been related to a Kurt Walker production from what I can gather from that dead link
>>2998 maybe this? http://kinet.media/movies/s01e03 but I guess we'll never really know...

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