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B-movies: Schlock N' Sleaze Anonymous 07/21/2021 (Wed) 18:56:07 No.1674 [Reply]
A thread for the cheesefest and sleazefest. Embrace the schlockness.
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>>1745 More like a killer about to strangle a woman. Get your mind out of the gutter. I watched some of these quite a lot throughout 2019-2020 and I learned to hate them. The entire "genre" consists of untalented hacks who generate the most base entertainment possible. There are rare strokes of interesting images and good imagination, but beyond that it's a great way to become depressed and hate movies. The audience for these movies is horrible as well.
>>1754 Are you the "cinema is shite" guy? Not judging you for that but if you're one of the serious film watchers these might not be for you. B-movies has a pretty wide scale of quality though, ranging from barely watchable (I can't sit through a film if it's too shitty either) to great genre fares (just not ambitious enough to become "A-movies"). You shouldn't force yourself to watch something you don't like and become depressed because of them, bro. >The audience for these movies is horrible as well. Care to elaborate?
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>>1764 >Are you the "cinema is shite" guy? No. I like movies and my preferences aren't nearly as specific as his and I don't care for crime films. >these might not be for you I've watched hundreds of them and "learned to hate" them. I watch lots of different types of movies and for awhile I watched these. Most genre films in general, I dislike now (I used to love horror and westerns in particular). >You shouldn't force yourself to watch something you don't like and become depressed because of them I was never forcing myself to watch anything, I wanted to watch them at the time. The reason I eventually found them to be depressing was that such a large portion of them are so poorly made that it's nearly unbelievable, not to mention the laziness and even arrogance that sometimes goes into making some of this crap. >Care to elaborate? I wouldn't want to spend time with most people who are into b-movies. From CG, to irl conventions: there are a ton of reference points for you to gather what kind of people generally are into low-budget schlock. I have some personal biases with this as well, having known some people who enjoyed these. It's all my opinion. I think there's value in watching genre movies, it's just not for me these days.
>>1765 >there are a ton of reference points for you to gather what kind of people generally are into low-budget schlock. I have some personal biases with this as well, having known some people who enjoyed these. I'm curious, does this related to politics? There are people from all sides who enjoy this type of movies I think. My experience from CG people is that I don't really understand their sense of humor. I would prefer a more serious crowd (but not pretentious) with knowledge about cinema and filmmaking. But CG kind of crowd can be fun at times because they don't take things seriously.
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>>1766 >does this related to politics? No.

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essential religious /film/ Anonymous 07/20/2021 (Tue) 20:56:58 No.1664 [Reply]
What are some essential religious/spiritual /film/s? Doesn't have to be Christianity.
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The Russians have made quite a few nice films about Eastern Orthodoxy. You can watch "The Monk and the Demon" (2016) on YouTube, it poked fun at people in Jerusalem selling God for money, heh https://youtu.be/YzZ-aDFtZyU
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Az ember tragédiája/The Tragedy of Man is a fantastic film that I've never seen discussed. It's based on the 1861 play of the same name – regarded as one of the greatest works of Hungarian literature – and follows Adam, guided by Lucifer, as he journeys through history, from humanity's inception in the Garden of Eden till its wretched end. Although the film began production in 1988, it wasn't released until 2011. After the collapse of Hungary's communist government, director Marcell Jankovics had to finance each of the film's fifteen segments individually, some of which were screened at film festivals or on Hungarian TV over the years. In fact, the end product had to be re-dubbed since the original voice actors were too old by the time the animation was complete. Jankovics actually believed that the play was better suited to the animation medium rather than the stage, which I agree with. Animation really unfetters the story and leaves it free to express itself on a grander scale, with each historical period being represented by the artstyle of the time. For example, the segment that takes place in Ancient Greece takes the form of engraved pottery, whereas the far future segment is all bold lines and part-monochrome to reflect the sterile and mechanical world. My personal favourite is the cross-hatched style in the Prague scene – aesthetics aside, it also visually represents the restricted thinking of the era, in contrast to the clean, fluid animation of the following French Revolution, reverting back to cross-hatching when said revolution fails. The film begins with the creation of the universe and the Fall of Man soon after. Having been cast out of Paradise, a prideful Adam is determined to pursue personal glory. In response, Lucifer whisks him away to Ancient Egypt – where Adam the pharaoh, having built a magnificent pyramid, has realised his desires at the cost of countless slave lives. He then reasons that equality between men is the true road to happiness, and is transported to a democratic Greece in chaos. The rest of the film follows this formula, with each of Adam's dreams being exposed as futile, and Adam himself growing older and wearier with each ensuing cycle. Eve also appears in each cycle of Adam's journey, providing him with the hope to strive on for a better outcome. In this way, she is ultimately his downfall. The ending is what really sets "Az ember tragédiája" apart, IMO. God is unfathomable, his intentions impossible to comprehend. Whether he truly has an unknowable plan for mankind, or is simply a callous creator, is left up to the viewer. >Man, I have spoken: Struggle and have faith! <The end is death; life is a struggle. And man's end is the struggle itself. And so, Adam resigns humanity to pushing the boulder up the hill until the last man's cold, miserable death. Overall, I think it's a beautiful film and I'm thankful to have seen it. Apparently the director felt the same way as he was in his 70s by the time his movie was finally released, lol. I highly recommend you check this one out.
>>1687 I love it and became very interested in the original play after watching the epic animated film. There are a couple live-action adaptations too but It's hard to imagine anything surpassing the effort by Marcell Jankovics.
>>1673 I vaguely remember watching a Russian movie about Orthodox monks being held hostage by the Mongols. I think it was called 'the Horde' or something.
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>>1756 Indeed. 'Orda' in Russian, came out in 2012.

I made a movie about neeting and content addiction Anonymous 06/06/2021 (Sun) 23:08:06 No.1614 [Reply]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1k98QjeK0s I used to be a pretty big film buff but slowly ruined my ability to enjoy anything that was 'just good' by being insanely picky in what I would finish. If I were ever in a situation where I was with a girl and she wanted to watch a movie in bed I reckon I'd bottle it by shitting on the movie. How do you overcome disillusion?
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>>1614 OP this film is fucking amazing, it's just about a guy slowly losing himself on the internet. Extremely depressing and honest, I hope you haven't given up, the response seems pretty good, spam it on /tv/
>>1614 Reposting criticism from another board.
I don't think people mind shit talk as long as it's funny. So yea, just make sure you make her laugh if you do.
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>>1614 Since this thread proves this board is shit, I will now ask: What was the first "cold-hearted assassin trains qt 3.14 loli and grows attached" story? Gunslinger Girl and that one movie with Natalie Portman are the two that I remember off the top of my head, but what was the first? And to add to that, I guess there's also the "street urchin child gets put under the wing of a master criminal". For instance, in the earlier Total War games, your spy/assassin could get a child pickpocket ancillary.
>>1742 There's an Open Thread for random questions >what was the first The Kid (1921) has a version of this trope https://youtu.be/0wg7QjQztlk?t=1181

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Cinema is shite Anonymous 07/24/2021 (Sat) 17:24:18 No.1710 [Reply]
Almost everything has a slant, a bias, a nauseating moral tale behind that makes the act of watching unbearable once you're old and receptive. Terrible characters with terrible motivations, fake love stories, manichean villains, clumsy writing… the dreaded sense of being preached for 2 hours. I would go to the church or read the news if I wanted that. To me the only good films are those where all pretense is abandoned like a whore on the side of the road; films where the director embarks it almost like a scientific experiment, deprived of tropes, where the characters have their own motivation and not those of the director/writer/politics of the time. Abstraction, simplification; expression limited to stylistic & narrative choices. Nonexistent psychological studies; characters should be like microbes under the microscope of the filmmaker -absolute objectivity in the writing aspect. Something like Un Flic by Jean Pierre Melville is the perfect example of a film deprived of all the ills that plague the medium. Only films like these are the ones I can watch without feeling repulsive afterwards.
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I agree OP I also don't like western movies much anymore because if they don't have that pretention or political charge then the movie is a jingling keychain for the masses after the work week, or just to use for some other purpose like launder money or fulfill contracts. Watching other people live their lives while you dream endlessly about it also turned me off from watching movies anymore especially made in the west where those movies are a staple.
>>1713 You aren't obliged to watch "great" films to be a film fan, no? Cinema is for recreational purpose after all. Nothing's wrong if you enjoy capeshit movies because they help you relax and turn your brain off after a hard work week or whatever. I think it's much more fun to watch movies that suit your taste other than watching what the critic of the week tells you. I've come to terms with that and feel more relaxed with my choice. Let the Oscars, Cannes and indie film awards congratulate their favorite award baits, I don't care about them. Hope you can find your favorite style and enjoy films again. >>1714 I'm not an arthouse-head but curious why you consider them crap lol
>>1713 >>1710 Also, feel free to post unpretentious crime thrillers in the thriller thread. We love that kind of movies.
>>1710 >To me To you, why think the medium is bad when you could've simply thought maybe you have wildly different standards on optimal preference? >Un Flic by Jean Pierre Melville is the perfect example of a film deprived of all the ills that plague the medium A poor example due to many of the characters showcasing a moral example. One of the robbers, an ex-banker, lived a relatively peaceful life with a caring wife and had to make her live in total shame when it was discovered he was one of the culprits, he ended himself in their room when this happened. This is explicit intent by the director. And of course the flic himself, who did his job the best he could, almost flawlessly but still finished it half-assed because they got to complete another job, didn't get the money back AND pulled a trigger too soon, practically executing an unarmed man in broad daylight. Even his partner belittled him, all the work went to the trash because in France that meant a demotion or a stain in your reputation/curriculum file. Obviously his cold-faced and frustrated gaze at the end is explicit director's intent. Then you have the main thief's girl, who cucked the man and betrayed his interests (to help him get a bargain easily, lol women) but was paid in spades when the flic executed him on the street with her as witness. Her disgusted and hopeless reaction, displayed on a close-up, is explicit intent by the director. The "example" our good old Hack Melville might've wanted to tell us (might because he was known to throw shit into the wall to see what sticks) is that crime doesn't pay like always (all his movies show this) that one should not play with people we care for if one cannot withstand the consequences (ex-banker, bar whore, the old man with homo tendencies, the flic) and that everything can go to hell in the end with one mistake (the thief, the flic, the thief that got killed in the beginning) Obviously these need a viewer who can interpret facial expressions as well as knowing that some scenes and reactions don't appear magically on the editing process, if a close-up of a sad person appears it means the director instructed the actor to show that, told the camera crew to move the rig to create the frame and told the editor to include it IF he was a free worker because sometimes productions/executives are the ones who control the editors. Still i don't blame you for disliking preachy scripts via dialogue choices, i tolerate them when they speak to my morals but dislike them when they don't so quite "hypocritical" from my part. Perhaps you would like a more visual narrative style? >Only films like these are the ones I can watch without feeling repulsive afterwards. Somewhat this standard of yours is a good thing, because it makes you a potentially interesting artist if you dared to write, draw or direct a project. I like Melville's methodical montages very much so i would def pursue seeing a work from an artist with such a rigorous taste.
>>1718 >Nothing's wrong if you enjoy capeshit movies Yes there is and you should be horribly shamed for it.

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Anonymous 04/25/2021 (Sun) 05:31:11 No.1521 [Reply]
We can all agree they're reddit right? Had two normalfags in class bring it up in their project, Part of me even wanted to step out of my comfort zone and go "Haha EPIC I too have seen films that are part of the Criterion Collection!" but thankfully didn't. In addition to the fact that towards the end of 2020 when they dropped a physical release bomb or something dozens of people made exposure videos that all got hundreds of thousands of views, we can all agree that as of 2020, they are officially Reddit right? Maybe in the 2010's they were obscure enough to be relegated to only cuckchan tier but now that normalfags jump up in excitement at the name, we can just confirm that it's reddit right?
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>>1530 >I can hate them for their reputation on butchering audio tracks though. I didn't know about this. Which releases?
>>1532 >I went long-winded there but what i wanted to say is that CC does pull things out of their hats from time to time, things that would be unknown or found in very shanty conditions but i know they do it to rub their personal or focus group ideologies rather than doing it to help the medium. Well you can't really expect them not to in current year, what really surprised me is that they're scared of Eastern Bloc and tankie films. You are wholeheartedly right though, there's a lot of similarities among Criterion films, you can arguably synthesize a whole new film out of just recutting the one's they have released, maybe even get them to distribute it for an extra layer of sweet irony.
>>1544 Perhaps "butcher" is a bit harsh, but they have a reputation for going too far with NR. Here's a blog with some good write-ups on different releases: https://blah-ray.blogspot.com/
>>1523 Is Cómo Agua bad? I was trying really hard to show it to my grand mother but she needs italian subs and i havent had thé time to make them
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>>1547 Not really bad but out of place in the original meaning of the catalogue (not so if Moonstruck is there too) it was a mainstream movie for the "let's take the missus to the cinema" audience based on a popular book in the style of romance/magic realism made by a woman about a family in a town she seems to have never visited or misunderstood a lot. Wrote this part last, wrote a lot again so TL;DR it's not real bad but its meta is controversial so your nonnina will probably not care much unless she expects some cream of the crop product that also touches upon odd topics. Strictly talking about this case the movie seems to have been restored due to being directed by a communist called Arau (who was a good comedian in its time) in association with a team chuck full of jews pushed back then by the mainstream, the most famous being Emmanuel Lubezki who had one of its uncles as the part of the jury who gave the movie a lot of national prizes. That's the reason i think the movie was a candidate, the politics are there along with being a heavily-prized movie forgotten in time by the viewers and even the continental scene (latin american i mean). For example 1974's Calzonzin Inspector, an older movie by Arau is a much more notorious example piece of cinema than Como Agua, mainly because it humorously touched on a strong topic in its days, the characters are kinda memorable, became an unexpected hit outside the country and wasn't in its home turf because the government shadow banned it due to showcasing rulers' numerous bad decisions as malicious rather than honest mistakes. It was shown briefly in cinemas then only found in bootlegs until 1989 and on TV after 2000's elections. Yet has been ignored by most studios for some reason or another, which leads me and some others to believe CC's decision to pick one over another as a proof they are in cahoots with the usual suspects. Sidestepping the topic, the book was greatly enjoyed by many but the "real" (as in not immigrant) people in the area in which the events of it happens somewhat loathed the book and the author book uses the protagonist's cooking savvy as themes and plot points yet many of the dishes and ingredients are foreign to Piedras Negras which is the town, situated in the northern desert areas yet it seems they are flooded with deep south ingredients and aztec dishes from Central America, much to the chagrin of the IRL local gastronomy circles. The town was picked mainly because of the plot point of being a Revolution War hotspot in which the author, a Mexico City resident in the south, wanted to touch upon often It was even a joke in a comedy show on how aggressive the natives could get back then, a tourist goes to the town and says loud "ah yes, mole sauce with turkey!" in which an old, seemingly-sweet lady replies "and F your mother too, cat-eater" ("y chin-chin a tu madresita, come-gatos"), plays a bit too with the city's catchphrase in recent era for being an immigrant hub: "Ya vayase" (Go away already). It's a classic case, once again, of culture shock/misunderstanding inside the same country, but oh well the people in that city have had worse: Some years ago the mayor (who wasn't a local either) built a replica mayan pyramid in a park. It would be interesting to see movies who moderately depict a place or area and ask the real natives if they liked it, in my personal experience it is a rare occurrence among national cases but it makes me wonder what other cases occur in Asia or Europe. I remember reading the Cretans loved Zorba but i have my suspicions towards that statement, also i recall an obscure case of a serbian movie, i think it was U Ime Naroda, who playfully mocked the mountain serbs (Montenegrins) yet in some reviews, written and on video, they claim they loved it to bits down to the accents.

Thoughts on the works of Sergei M. Eisenstein Anonymous 09/02/2020 (Wed) 20:15:27 No.656 [Reply]
[JW22 ~ 09/03/2019] >Sergei Mikhailovich Eisenstein was a Soviet film director and film theorist, a pioneer in the theory and practice of montage. The son of an affluent architect, Eisenstein attended the Institute of Civil Engineering in Petrograd as a young man. With the fall of the tsar in 1917, he worked as an engineer for the Red Army. In the following years, Eisenstein joined up with the Moscow Proletkult Theater as a set designer and then director. The Proletkult's director, Vsevolod Meyerhold, became a big influence on Eisenstein, introducing him to the concept of biomechanics, or conditioned spontaneity. Eisenstein furthered Meyerhold's theory with his own "montage of attractions"--a sequence of pictures whose total emotion effect is greater than the sum of its parts. He later theorized that this style of editing worked in a similar fashion to Marx's dialectic. Though Eisenstein wanted to make films for the common man, his intense use of symbolism and metaphor in what he called "intellectual montage" sometimes lost his audience. Though he made only seven films in his career, he and his theoretical writings demonstrated how film could move beyond its nineteenth-century predecessor--Victorian theatre-- to create abstract concepts with concrete images. Eisenstein's completed feature films include: Strike (1925) Battleship Potemkin (1925) October: Ten Days That Shook the World (1928) The General Line (1929) Alexander Nevsky (1938) Ivan the Terrible, Part I (1944) Ivan the Terrible, Part II (1945) Incompleted films: ¡Que viva México! (A version was completed, edited, and released in 1979 by Eisenstein's co-director Grigori Aleksandrov) Bezhin Meadow (lost, only exists as a slideshow now) Ivan the Terrible, Part III (what was completed was destroyed)

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>>1480 here: www.fedy-diary(.)ru/html/052012/16052012-03a(.)html and yes the english and german is from Eisenstein himself
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Is this board still alive? Anyway, I too love history, kabuki theatre, Mei Lanfang, Mikhail Kuznetsovs face, and cross dressing dudes So what are some other things he found interesting?
>>1491 I guess its still alive but if three years ago the unique visitors were in the hundreds, now its definitely in the tens
>>1493 time to shill again
>>1494 A dangerous game but might as well now that we are on the verge. Where do you plan on doing that? just curious not that i will belittle you or anything.

WWII - The German experience Anonymous 12/14/2020 (Mon) 03:05:57 No.989 [Reply]
Discussion of films/TVs about WWII from the German perspective. Allies movies with comical over-the-top natsee villains not welcome.
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>>991 In what films is this notable? Great Patriotic War films have their share of being Hollywood-tier while Germans always make theirs neutral and about the clean Wehrmacht. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7tEIYveBPQ
>>990 well, the NSDAP were liberators, not conquerors despite the lies we’ve been told by marxists. most russians on the eastern front welcomed the germans because they experienced decades of oppression at the hands of jewish bolsheviks; the same bolsheviks that raped and murdered the russian monarchy in 1910 and then installed communism. https://dailyarchives.org/index.php/history/2189-many-russians-hoped-that-hitler-would-free-them-from-stalin
>>992 >nazis this term is inaccurate and was created by a jewish man with the sole purpose of slandering the NSDAP >war crimes german leaders were tortured into giving false confessions and according to the procedural rules of the nuremburg trials, there was literally a rule (i forget which one exactly but it should not be too hard to find) that stated that “no evidence is required” for those precedings. you should be able to find it here: https://holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/ with a source included. those trials were literally kangaroo courts and the germans unironically did nothing wrong
Cross of Iron (1977) is alright, except for the annoyance that amerimutts are cast as Germans. Is there any blackwashing in this? For some reason a kike decided to write it.
You can witness pieces of the German WWII experience firsthand through Eva Braun's personal 8mm film reels, hosted by the National Archives. The reels contain some genuine moments of beauty with families vacationing at a mountain lake for example. It's interesting to see how real people lived in the past, and I can't think of an earlier collection of home movies of this quality. The historical/political aspect is not my primary focus, but the occasional presence of the Nazi inner circle keeps the viewing experience from getting too dull. https://catalog.archives.gov/id/43461 Comprehensive scene breakdown http://www.thirdreichruins.com/eva_movies.htm

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Thanks, I hate it. Anonymous 01/20/2021 (Wed) 18:33:10 No.1288 [Reply]
>Periodically attack the infinite backlog >Consult the spirits >They shit in my mouth For some reason, this was in the back of my mind as a highly rated movie to watch at some point. I read no review, no synopses, save maybe hearing it praised in passing some time around it's release. I got up to the part where the venal harlot begins openly cucking the soy-boy puppet man with his hippie retard pseudo-tranny gf and turned it off, because after being suckered in by the quirky aesthetic and the neat scene dressing like the tiny office, I found all the characters intensely detestable. Not even in a way that was pleasant to watch. Their personalities excite in me a deep gut-feeling of revulsion and hatred. I'm not qualified to be a puritan, but this is definitively a steaming degenerate Hollywood turd, and it has Jewish names all over it. -1000000/10, I hope every name associated with this production is hunted down and fed feet first into an autoclave. Feel free to regale me with tales of movies that you had the impression were rated highly, but turned out to have emanated from a diseased post-op axe-wound.
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>>1288 It's one of those "avant garde" 90s pieces where you're supposed to hate the characters, and enjoy hating them. King of the Hill is also written in the same way. It's highly jewish, but that's their sense of "humor." They love cringepuppets.
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>>1431 I love Hank tho
>>1431 >>1432 >tfw jews try to make whites detestable, and fail miserably because we're such kind people. yeah, i like Hank too.
>>1431 >King of the Hill is also written in the same way. I don't see it that way other than Hank who is legitimately a shitty person for grilling meat with gas, the rest are also flawed but have redeeming values at the end. The injun is a societal scumbag but one that does support, morally speaking, anyone in his community for nothing in return. The chink/laos monkey is a total asshole of a person but a model citizen in all the technical stuff. Boomhauer is an unintelligible guy who seemingly does nothing all day (until the ending showed his true profession) but is level-headed and pro-active in the betterment of society with small actions. Granpa is also a shit dude, bordering the psychopath label, but one who risked his neck to help the country in need (for ZOG but he didn't knew that) It's a balance and most characters were written that way, whoever thinks they were written to be hated are simply shallow.
>>1431 >king of the hill >It's one of those "avant garde" 90s pieces where you're supposed to hate the characters, and enjoy hating them. I'm not sure, I see what you mean but I did not even grow up with this crap and I didn't really hate the characters kind of like a milder more boring version B&B, I didn't hate the characters there either, they're genuinely funny. It's just shallow eccentric ridicule humor for kicks, with a touch of what you said, but still it's broadly way more innocent than say family goy or american dad or simp-sons or other sewer trash the kikes pump out these days.

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Silents & The Birth of Cinema Anonymous 02/03/2021 (Wed) 03:32:49 No.1355 [Reply]
[JW15 ~ 11/16/2019] Lately I've been watching nonfiction content from the silent era -- found footage, documentary, early fragments. This excellent video from the Museum of Modern Art captures a lot of what attracts me to these films. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBNwiPgknn8 >It's not so much being seduced by a story, it's the thrill of seeing in itself. I'm just disappointed that it's often difficult to find quality versions of this stuff. Watching anything potato quality youtube or even DVD doesn't do justice to the footage, and you lose the experience of time travel if you can't see clear details.
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>>1363 That looks very interesting. Could you upload it here by any chance? It's evading me a bit.
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>>1364 Here's a torrent although the file is large (8GB) https://rarbg.to/torrent/ru2gk95
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>>1365 >scene rips aren't so ba-
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Anonymous 12/08/2020 (Tue) 06:29:41 No.905 [Reply]
This board is so dead. Does anyone else hate film students?
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>>956 >GROWTH FOR THE SAKE OF GROWTH IS THE IDEOLOGY OF A CANCER CELL, FUCK OFF ADHD NIGGER. We are extremely far from that problem and don't forget this is an imageboard not an encyclopedia.
>>905 I did a term of film studies. Hated it, hated the people, hated the lack of technical information. Shoulda read the pamphlet. Now I'm an honourary faggot.
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They seem pretty alright, I don't really expect to meet anyone in my lifetime with the same interests as me anyways. so, although they are barely above normalfag tier taste wise, they are usually open minded to new stuff. which is cool i guess
>>988 >imageboard not an encyclopedia. fucking wrong newfag
>>1334 Then let's stop posting and just archive the board.

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