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All-purpose interesting links or sources thread. Blackshirt 09/05/2020 (Sat) 13:49:13 ID: 7b7bf1 No.7597
I don't recall us having one. As the title says, post any links or sources that'd be interesting for this board from as many relevant subjects as you can. I'll start: http://disidencia.info/ https://therealwritewinger.wordpress.com/2019/03/22/the-great-replacement-a-murderers-conspiracy-theory-or-international-policy/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcion_of_Sinope
>>7661 That was a great article. Honestly this guys' entire Wordpress has been pretty good from what I've seen. I know he has another article that exposes the Duginist connections in the Alt-kike that was worth checking out as well.
>>7661 So he understands that ethnopluralism and ethnonstionalism are different. I like how he just doesn't want to admit that he wants to go full ethnoglobe already.
>>7702 Ethnoglobe is a pretty obscure theory right now as far as I understand it. Surprisingly, /fascist/ is basically the hub of ethnoglobal theory on the Internet right now and is the first results that come up if you search the term. The term only appears 100 times in Cuckchan archives, so definitely less than on here.
https://chechar.wordpress.com/ >>7703 It's not as obscure, or uncommon, among us as you might think, it's commonly bandied about on places like telegram in a seemingly eternal; conflict with NS boomers and younger idiots who think a place for every race is a good thing and an ideal to live by just because Hitler thought it, but they do not always using the term Ethnoglobe. On the subject of disagreeing with Hitler, how do we deal with people who treat him as some kind of god who had no flaws or was infallible? this is, of course, regardless of his actual divine providence, he was still a man.
>>7733 what are some good telegrams, all the ones I'm a part of have not posting allowed on them
>>7737 There are channels and then there are groups, groups function akin to a chat room and if any of the pages you follow have a link at the bottom that says Discuss click it and you will be able to talk to other people. I know of two decent ones Nordic Resistance Movement has an english chat and another one is Worth Fighting For, that is all i'll share.
>>7739 Is the worth fighting for telegram related to the instagram of the same name?
>>7740 yep same guy has both a channel and a chat.
>>7733 Hitler didn't support a place for every race, at least in the way that cucks do where it is an absolute right. His policy of planning to expand east in Europe would have involved uprooting large amounts of people, or at the very least putting them under German hegemony. And of course he planned to have the east settled, not just by Germans, but by Dutch, Norwegians and Swedes. He might not have planned on exterminating them all, but I doubt he would have lost much sleep at night over advancing the interests of his people while some others get the short end of the stick, just as Whites here in the Americas didn't care all too much about the natives here being swept aside or pushed out. Hitler's adherence to the Laws of Nature bolsters these claims, I think, because the idea of the struggle for existence naturally implies that, between different groups all striving for ends and access to resources, inevitably some will be frustrated and perish, while others will emerge victorious. >On the subject of disagreeing with Hitler, how do we deal with people who treat him as some kind of god who had no flaws or was infallible? this is, of course, regardless of his actual divine providence, he was still a man. I would probably address these people from the angle of Savitri Devi. Devi obviously thought that Hitler was essentially a god-like being against Time, but he was not a perfect one, and in many ways he did not go far enough in her eyes. The one who will do this, of course, will be Kalki.
>>7753 I know Hitler didn't believe as these fools today did, for one, most of them are in reality reactionaries where Hitler was a revolutionary. I suspect that he harbored a great deal of hate that he never voiced, because some of his actions are inconsistent with everything we know about him. I guess i'm just frustrated with how many so called National Socialists are lemmings and people of follower mentality entrenched so deeply that they take everything Hitler did at surface value rather than trying to actually get into the headspace he would have been in.
>>7798 >I guess i'm just frustrated with how many so called National Socialists are lemmings and people of follower mentality entrenched so deeply that they take everything Hitler did at surface value rather than trying to actually get into the headspace he would have been in. Unfortunately this happens to many great men since the vast majority of any society is of course composed of lemmings. It is always easier to worship than it is for them to truly follow in the sense of following in the footsteps of a great man and becoming like them. Regardless of what was guiding Hitler, he would not have liked to be put on a pedestal as infallible, nor would he have liked to see weaklings crying over the fact that "another Hitler" hasn't come yet. Hitler, like all great Fascists was himself a man of action. What many people need is a proper distinction between the Laws of Nature that Hitler was inspired by, and the man himself. Hitler undoubtedly had religious-like reverence towards the Natural Order and its Laws, this is clear from almost all of his writings and speeches. It is the Natural Order which is infallible, not Hitler. Hitler may have been exceptionally skilled in observing and divining what exactly was necessary from the standpoint of the Laws of Nature, but one would be foolish to view him as beyond questioning or as laying down some immutable principles. I think he was very close to being right about almost everything, but I look to the common source of these views, not merely the man.
>>7808 >I think he was very close to being right about almost everything, but I look to the common source of these views, not merely the man. I agree and I do that as well. I suspect that he, like many of us, kind of kept a picture of Nature and Natural Order in his mind and checked what he believed through it as a lens. No understanding is perfect, of course, but I think you can get closest to perfection by doing it that way, essentially I am saying that he and we try to become Nature, and to think through the lens of what it tells us, and all becomes clear, I feel more and more in touch with the divine, every day that I do this.
>>7810 To have a truly objective and perfect understanding of Nature is probably impossible, but we can definitely get a more or less clear picture of some aspects of it, I think. Personally I am still learning, but the ancient admonition to live ones life in accordance with Nature seems to be the soundest guidance to a healthy and vigorous life. Our society today, founded as it is on a revolt from Nature, has bore its fruits and is plain for all to see. >I feel more and more in touch with the divine, every day that I do this. It is the same for me, and adopting and exploring life in this way has given me a much deeper idea of what exactly the core of National Socialism truly is, and made me feel more and more that the current order is utterly decadent and evil. I wish to gain an even more objective picture of Nature, but wonder how this is best done. I know that it will involve total separation from one's personal opinions and emotions about it. Far too much is rejected today because it doesn't feel good. More people need to be brought to understand these ideas, and it is through them that NS will truly become a force to reckon with in the real world.
>>7821 >>7810 >>7808 Ethnoglobe at first may seem cruel but then you realize it's the unfortunate solution. But to be sure I think it would not happen right away but rather a century or two from now on. sage for offtopic
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Here is some more interesting and unfortunate facts for you to present to Christians – Philo of Alexandria (also known as Philo the Jew) was a Hellenistic Jewish philosopher who adopted the Greek concept of the Logos into his Jewish philosophy. In contrast to the Greek Logos as some sort of divine principle of reason, Logos to Philo the Jew was an intermediary being between God and creation, identified with reason, and referred to as the “Son of God”. Really puts the idea of Jesus (esp. in John’s Gospel) in a new light and steals away much of the supposed uniqueness. https://iep.utm.edu/philo/#H11 I also enjoy pointing out that Logos was in general a product of pagan thought, specifically Heraclitus and the Stoics. In fact, many Christians recognized this in antiquity, but used it as a way to subvert Europeans by claiming that their doctrine was a higher form / completion of philosophy
Does anyone have an article that proves that European tribes weren't "backwards barbarians" or that Rome and Greece was filled with Whites?
>>8019 >tribes Just say they contributed more than Niggers. >Whites Just ask where all the non-Whites went.
>>7987 >did grudgingly allow homosexual activity in the military and in a few instances openly admitted it like in the Sacred Band of Thebes He doesn't mention that Philip II (Alexander's father) literally built a monument to the Sacred Band of Thebes after defeating them at Chaeronea because of his respect for them. Also the claim that homosexual activity was punished with death in most Greek city-states is an outright lie. There is an incredible amount of mental gymnastics and dishonesty going on with the topic of homos in classical antiquity.
>>8019 For Rome, see this post from another thread >>7109. I should eventually expand it to Greece so we can just debunk the idea that the Greeks and Italians of today are anything like those of the ancient world immediately. >European tribes weren't "backwards barbarians" This might be a worthy thing for anons to research. They obviously weren’t at the level of the developed civilizations of the Mediterranean, but I think this fails as an argument against the Germanics and Celts because in time they had fully developed civilization, high culture, literature, technology and scientific developments of their own. Of course there was input from Roman culture, but it was nothing like niggers and their introduction to civilization, where to this day they still live in utter squalor, chaos and filth with no indigenous contributions of their own.
>>8039 >>7987 Homosexuals are the one topic where I think that "by your fruits ye shall know them" is very applicable. At this point I don't put too much effort into refuting or affirming the charges against the Romans and Greeks. I think it's somewhere in the middle of both claims, but I think we can look around at the world today, and see what normalization of homosexuality has done to our society. STDs, child molestation, pedophilia, rampant promiscuity, etc and conclude that a society has no place tolerating this kind of deviant behavior. I know that the homosexuality of the ancient world is often claimed to be of a slightly different nature, but I think this time we might have to throw them back in the closet extremely hard in order to correct course
>>8021 >>8039 >>8040 >>8041 In other words none of you have decisive proof. You know you could just posted tacticus' or the other Romans and their books about Germania, or brought up that ancient origins article and some other articles that debunks homosexuality in Rome and Greece?
>>8048 >some other articles that debunks homosexuality in Rome and Greece? Arguments against homosexuality should not involve reference to Greco-Roman times. The claim that all homosexual activity was condemned in Greece and Rome is disingenuous and frankly you would need to be willingly ignorant to believe such a claim.
>>8072 >Arguments against homosexuality should not involve reference to Greco-Roman times. This is what I've said before. I am all for healthy tradition and appreciate many aspects of the Classical world, but I approach it with reason, I don't just think we should blindly do something because the Greeks or Romans did it. That's just foolish.
>>8072 >Arguments against homosexuality should not involve reference to Greco-Roman times. Arguments agaisnt homoexuality are not referring to Greco-Roman, but specifically the Roman Republic and all the way to the split of the empire. >The claim that all homosexual activity was condemned in Greece and Rome is disingenuous and frankly you would need to be willingly ignorant to believe such a claim. I don't see how debunking lies coming from the media about how the Greeks and Romans totally accepted gay buttsex is disingenuous. The Romans and Greeks did indeed mention sexual male love as degenerate and a mental illness, unless you want to prove to me that I'm indeed ignorant for believing it with some facts?
>>8048 >>8039 Go back to reddit/twitter already.
>>8092 Tucker should be attacked more often. I never thought I'd see the day on cuck/pol/ where they literally get together in general threads and watch Fox News together, but here we are. They're indistinguishable from Republicans in real life at this point. I know a faggot IRL who will nod along to all criticism of Republicans and agree, but then will go right back to saying how based Tucker is and how he is standing bravely against the left. It's all so tiring to see people fall for obvious controlled opposition time and time again.
Pornography addiction: A neuroscience perspective https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3050060/ The significance of heavy pornography involvement for romantic partners: research and clinical implications https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11995598/ Public Chastity, Private Chaos https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2015/01/public-chastity-private-chaos Conservatives are more easily disgusted than liberals https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02699930802110007 Disgust as an adaptive system for disease avoidance behaviour https://www.jstor.org/stable/41148911 In Defense of Flogging http://petermoskos.com/files/moskos/moskos_2014_APJ_flogging.pdf
>>8096 Agreed, it's insane that people are falling for the same trick twice. Every excuse that is given for Tucker for not calling out the Jews or openly saying that the hatred the elite hold for 'Americans' is actually just a hatred for White people is the same type of excuse that was given for Trump during the 2016 elections.
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>>8102 I wonder though how these people can even be woken up from the fact that they are being tricked again and again. Personally my evolution has been very similar to the meme pic that I have attached, though I am not blackpilled as the wojack on the right is. It's a brutal redpill to swallow that we're never gonna get /ourguys/ on mainstream news channels and that the path forward for fascism and White nationalism will be exceedingly difficult, but this is a matter of life and death, a pill that has to be swallowed.
>>8102 >Muh tucker won't call muh Jews >Muh tucker won't become a niggerpiller faggot No wonder why fascism can't win too many retards occupying it.
>>8096 Tucker is fox news, the jews owned the media you imbecile, if Tucker calls them out his show will get shutdown and that will be the end of getting normalfags to wake up and realize the shit that is going on in America. Calling out the jews is not a solution that's what you retards want because you can't do anything else but cry and spam retarded wojack memes.
>>8110 >>8111 Tucker's not waking anyone up. He just panders to Trumpniggers and they, to no one's surprise, gobble it up. He's yet another kosher Zionist avoiding the real problems that America faces such as demographic change / White genocide and the Jewish problem. The JQ is all-important. You want people to be fed comforting lies and half-trues with no ultimate explanations. The JQ is the cold, hard truth, and continuously telling people just to vote for Jewish-controlled Republicans is worse than useless at this point. >i-i-if I keep telling them what they want to hear we'll win! >i-i-if I tread the line that ZOG drew we'll win! This is why Fascism is losing.
>>8113 No fascism is loosing because you tards are the most inactive group to exist. There is nothing but fed and niggerpiller queers who do nothing but cry muh Jew and muh nigger instead of build your communities, handing out redpolls what's going on in America or anything that brings fascism or the racial issues for Whites going in America. Wignats always lose and get cucked out by e-celebs and get subverted by faggots such as (((Richard Spencer))) or kike woods. You're losing because you fail to admit that these past 4 years of absolutely doing nothing has absolutely done nothing for Whites or fascism.
>>8113 You faggots haven't brought the JQ in conscious of Whites at all, wignats haven't accomplish a single of a iota of a fucking thing for these past three years other than being spergy, cringe, and retarded on social media and constantly listening to retarded E-celebs where half of them aren't even White fed you bullshit such as warlordism and all this other retarded shit they makes no sense. You can't call out the J's in America or on any major news site. The moment Tucker JQ is the moment he gets banned off of Fox news. If anything Tucker should be warning Whites of the various politicians such as the Rotchilds and other powerful Jews who are fucking over the country indirectly. I've seen Trump supporters mention powerful Jews and Zionists group as evil and should be tackled down, if anything Trump supporters should be lead to attacking these people instead of crying muh JQ and thinking that blowing up a federal building is going to save the White race.
>>8110 You said the same shit about Trump. >no bro, he's fucking based and redpilled, he's just not calling them out yet because of 3D chess, he's gonna lock Hillary up and build that wall!!! >no bro, it doesn't matter that his daughter married a kike, you're just trying to demoralize us, you must be a JIDF shill >no bro, it doesn't matter that he kissed the wailing wall in Israel, that's just all part of the 3D chess game And here we are, in the last year of his term and he never even built the wall, which was the main appeal of his campaign (among normalfags) in the first place.
>>8114 >>8116 Where are you newfags coming from? No one here supports e-celebs or listens to a word that (((Keith Woods))), (((Richard Spencer))) or any other of these retards says. Are you mad that your sacred cow BASTE TUCKER is being called out for being just another kosher controlled opposition Zionist TV host? The first anon is wholly ignorant to the fact that many people are taking advantage of the situation in America to redpill Whites. Just read our BLM / Weimerica threads here and you'll see anons discussing the change in attitude among some Whites and some in-roads that they have made on their friends and family. I myself have recently redpilled a close friend of mine on race realism and am slowly introducing more and more. I am surely not the only one, either. More Whites are awake than ever, and the Jews know it, otherwise they wouldn't be hammering on us constantly, and worrying about the rising number of White Nationalist terror attacks, or the proliferation of groups, or the spread of speech online. >>8114 is right thought that WNs are far too inactive. It's almost like they don't want to actually get off their asses and do anything and instead just try to find any excuse they can not to actually do something, continuously whining about feds and honeypots.
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>>8117 Trust the plan ~ Q
>>8119 >Where are you newfags coming from? No one here supports e-celebs or listens to a word that (((Keith Woods))), (((Richard Spencer))) or any other of these retards says. >Y-you don't agree with me?! N-newfag! Nigger you posted niggerpills, that kike faggot who spews nothing but garbage content and loves to suck off Dickie Spencer. >Are you mad that your sacred cow BASTE TUCKER is being called out for being just another kosher controlled opposition Zionist TV host? >Be a schizo >Cry about tucker being muh spooky Zionist >Ignore the fact that he's been shitting on trump for not pulling out the troops >Ignore the fact he's been calling out the anti Whiteness of America >Ignore the fact that he's been calling out corporative abuses and their carelessness has done nothing good for Americans. >Zionist Amazing you faggots love to call other NPCs but can't think outside of your mentally retarded heads. >The first anon is wholly ignorant to the fact that many people are taking advantage of the situation in America to redpill Whites. Just read our BLM / Weimerica threads here and you'll see anons discussing the change in attitude among some Whites and some in-roads that they have made on their friends and family. And try most of those who are aware of the anti Whiteness are also trump supporters. Are you not going to acknowledge that dumpf niggers are people who acknowledge that anti Whiteness is clear as day in America or are you going to pretend that Fascists are the only ones aware of anti Whiteness? All this other shit you said are petty excuses, of you thinking that redpoll = activism. Activism and actions speak louder than words you retard it doesn't matter what people are aware of what they need is a leaders who have solutions and wignatism and faggots like you haven't accomplished a single thing. >>8121 >Wojack Did you know that every time that you post wojack shit you only become gayer and gayer? Keep struggling with the fact that dumpf fags have more balls than you nimrods right now and those retards have been embarrassing themselves. Crying about Trump is not a personality, actually talk shit about dumpf when you faggots have actually accomplished something for once, because ITS BEEN FOUR FUCKING YEARS OF NOTHING.
>>8125 >anything that makes me uncomfortable is a blackpill Sounds like a problem with you, to be quite honest.
>>8117 What do you mean by you, retard? You faggots were the ones who were sucking off trump and the reason why niggerpills even exist was because NEETSOCs and siegetards were ass mad that trump wasn't le based and redpilled. The entirety of /pol/ shilled Trump and claimed he was going to save the White race, as matter of fact I should be saying some of things you just said you imbecile.
>>8127 Nice reading comprehension, thanks for proving my point and that you are indeed a nigger monkey who lurks on /fascist/.
>>8128 >>8129 You stick out like a sore thumb here, newfag
>>8128 >You faggots were the ones who were sucking off trump What do you mean exactly with 'you faggots'?
Take the shitflinging to the Weimerica thread, this is borderline /pol/-shit
>>8128 you're a lying shitposter. on the old site, I remember posting that I did my part by voting Trump, only to be greeted with mockery. but I still maintain my position: there's no way a politician could run on a /fascist/ platform and win a presidential election. Trump has mass appeal while still being reasonably based.
>>8151 I think a lot of us in the US probably voted for Trump. I was a lot more bluepilled than I am today in 2015-16 so I was a bit too optimistic, but in a sense I still think it was the right choice (to the extent that the choice even mattered, let's be real). A lot of the people who mocked you probably voted for Trump themselves, but like myself have become very jaded towards him after the Syria debacles, the lack of a wall, the lack of a substantial Muslim ban, and of course all of the pro-Zionist policy changes that he made. Like I've said before, the best thing Trump has done - and this is regardless of whether he's just controlled opposition or not - is to push the rhetoric more in our direction. I think the fact that he has done this is undeniable. > there's no way a politician could run on a /fascist/ platform and win a presidential election Win a presidential election? No, probably not, at least in the current environment. We need to keep pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable and winning more and more people over to the ideas of Fascism and White Nationalism. I'm very Whitepilled on the fact that our ideas are going to keep becoming more and more popular into the near future. Article after article is coming out on how "far-right extremists" are taking advantage of these protests, (((Covid))) lockdowns and the like. They wouldn't be saying anything if there was no problem, but in a more general sense due to the demographic tide and the like Whites are going to start feeling the heat more than ever. Just because I am Whitepilled on the growth of people on our side in absolute numbers though, this doesn't mean that the pressure from our enemies won't keep getting more and more intense. I think it will only worsen the bigger the threat there is. The biggest thing that needs done is that we need actual groups or at least associations of /ourguys/ on the ground.
New Asha Logos video: https://youtu.be/rYT_WugMLoY
>>8151 >Trump let his daughter marry a Jew >works against White Nationalists Okay cuck.
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>>8173 Trust the plan, w-wignat!
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>>8175 You forgot the most telling one of them all: >In a secretly recorded video of a dinner with President Donald Trump, businessmen and Rudy Giuliani associates Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman draw a parallel between the president and the Messiah. >Parnas presents to Trump what he says is a gift from “the head rabbi of Ukraine” and some rabbis in Israel. He explains that according to Jewish numerology, known as gematria, the letters in Trump’s name add up to 424, which is the same total as the Messiah. >“It’s like a miracle,” Fruman is heard telling Trump on the recording. >When it is clear that Trump does not understand the significance of the numerology or the Messiah, Parnas tells him to ask his Jewish son-in-law, Jared Kushner, about it, saying that Kushner “will explain it to you.” https://www.jpost.com/American-Politics/In-secret-recording-Lev-Parnas-and-Igor-Fruman-draw-parallel-between-Trump-and-the-messiah-615474
>>8152 >A lot of the people who mocked you probably voted for Trump themselves, >the best thing Trump has done -- is to push the rhetoric more in our direction. I agree with this. there's a concept known as the Overton Window, which is the acceptable range of discourse in political affairs. the Far Left has already extended it much further in their direction, with their normalization of trannies, anti-Americanism, and Marxist insurrection. likewise, we need to extend it in our direction by letting people know of the dangers of miscegenation and bolshevization of culture. of course, this will have to overcome a fair amount of conditioning -- even before NPCs, normalcattle were programmed with an aversion to anything 'racist' or 'fascist'. they need to get used to the idea that subjugation and genocide can be done subtly as well as blatantly. they understand this when non-White, non-Western cultures are targeted, they simply need to break through the mental barrier to realize that this also applies to our Western, White heritage. as for Trump, I remain optimistic. many seeming delays and shortcomings are due to massive obstructionism in Congress and courts, which culminated in a gov't shutdown awhile ago, and then a declaration of a state of emergency. it's entirely possible for Trump to hit an inflection point, especially on constructing the Wall. I'd like to specifically address Trump and Zionism. as you well know, the ADL has long worked to ensure that anti-semitism is verboten in polite society. for Trump to openly blame Jews or even Israel would simply be too dangerous. by publicly supporting Zionism and being friendly with Jews, this provides Trump with a shield against accusations of anti-semitism, and can even turn it around on his opponents. in addition, Christian evangelicals are an important consituency, and they're pro-Israel for various theological reasons. it all makes strategic sense, as usual.
>>8151 >you're a lying shitposter. on the old site, I remember posting that I did my part by voting Trump, only to be greeted with mockery. but I still maintain my position: there's no way a politician could run on a /fascist/ platform and win a presidential election. Trump has mass appeal while still being reasonably based. I don't believe this shit at all. because I saw nothing, but Nat Soc shilling Trump I've seen them on Twatter praising Trump as the new leader of NS. >>8175 Nice Strawman cuckchanner, but it doesn't stop the fact that Trump supporters have more power and popularity than you tards do. You've been enforcing and struggling with the facts the le meme about Whites going on a rampage isn't going to happen. The only way we can win this culture war is if we become leaders ourselves and stop crying about muh orange every fucking stream with the same gay wojacks meme. You dumb niggers need to learn how to strategize and stop being a bunch of cucks.
>>8200 >I don't believe this shit at all. because I saw nothing, but Nat Soc shilling Trump I've seen them on Twatter praising Trump as the new leader of NS. Fucking lol, you take the words of universally-disdained Twitter LARPers over actual people on a board dedicated to Fascism.
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>>8200 >Nice Strawman cuckchanner Calling people who say things you don't like cuckchanner won't make you fit in more, kike. >but it doesn't stop the fact that Trump supporters have more power and popularity than you tards do How does that change the fact that Trump is a Zionist cuck who has done nothing for Whites in the US? You could say that Biden supporters may have more power and influence than we do, does that make Biden himself a good potential president? No, of course not. >The only way we can win this culture war is if we become leaders ourselves Fair enough but we can still criticize Trump for sucking jewish cock and the people who still go on pretending that he is doing anything but that. >and stop crying about muh orange every fucking stream What stream are you talking about?
I'm not sure exactly how this thread devolved into Burger politics garbage, but take it either to the Weimerica thread >>6330 or the QTTDDTOT >>7682 so people in the future will actually be able to find interesting links
>>8072 >>8073 How many times do we have to tell you faggots that homofascista is not a thing? The Greeks and Romans aren't gay, if you want homosexuality with supposed "fascist" ideas then you can become Stalinists or whatever form of communism or join the Nazbol shitskins who are unironic homosexuals. Rome and Greece did condemn same sex relationships and did not recognize two males in relationship, accepting liberal and communists degeneracy/myths goes against fascism.
>>8215 >Fucking lol, you take the words of universally-disdained Twitter LARPers over actual people on a board dedicated to Fascism. Except he isn't wrong, there were legit National Socialists and fascists back in 2014-2016 who believed that Trump would become the Fascist leader of America, because his opening election announced that he was against Israeli wars and immigration.
>>8225 The idea of homosexuality as some sort of "orientation" didn't exist in the ancient world. You were expected to get married to a woman and form a family and it wasn't a "relationship" in the sense that degenerates engage in today. This is correct, though it's undeniable that some in the Greco-Roman elite engaged in degeneracies like pederasty.
You guys should check out Apollonian Germ. I enjoy his views and find them very comfy. Recently he has been taking on the Traditionalist school, which is definitely something that needs to be done. I'm tired of people like Guenon being shilled, and the ideas of "spiritual race" and other ways of thinking which totally denigrate or even negate the existence of material reality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhi2FKwQbn4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRija9BVxnk >>8261 Is it true that STJ is pozzed? Varg was posting some evidence that his wife is a Zionist. hung out with negroes and acted like a whore. I haven't been able to view him the same since then, unfortunately. Here are the photos: https://ibb.co/album/gmCM6z
>>8267 Varg can be dumb as hell, but at the same time he can be really smart and correct about a lot of things. I've been suspicious of STJ for a while now and noticed how he loves to take info from modern academia such as the kikes in Harvard who come out with DNA tests.
>>8272 I definitely think that Varg offers more good than bad information. Where he really goes off the rails is when he talks about stuff like that pagans didn't believe in "real" gods, or autism being some sort of superpower or that Whites are Neanderthals. Besides that, I have no issues with him and I think he does a good job calling out those who deserve to be called out for the most part.
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>>8267 >Is it true that STJ is pozzed? Varg was posting some evidence that his wife is a Zionist. hung out with negroes and acted like a whore. I don't know about that. Varg also claimed that STJ is a freemason and crypto-Catholic (because he said he used to be a Catholic as a child but converted to Paganism) so I'd take it with a grain of salt. I'd be interested in seeing the evidence you mentioned though. >>8274 It all seems dumb at first but I think he's just not good at getting his points across in a non-autistic way, which is common for people who adhere strongly to personal principles of any kind. As for his ideas about Paganism not really being about worshiping gods but rather about attaining and contacting supernatural powers, this actually seems very similar to Evola's views on what religion is supposed to be. In this video >>8163 on the Oera Linda book, it is said that Europeans used to only believe in one, formless monotheistic god which was more like a natural power (just like Brahman, Kami etc.). Himmler, who strongly believed in the authenticity of the Oera Linda book, said that the polytheism and myths of the various gods in European Paganism were meant more so for the low-class masses while the elite had its own monotheistic cult in which they tried to attain knowledge of the true nature of Logos. There have also been historical theories that the Nordic and Indo-Aryan gods (Odin/Wodan, Indra) are symbolic for the Indo-European invaders who conquered neolithic Europe and Dravidian India respectively, meaning that they might have originally been seen more similar to saints or angels rather than as the highest beings in the universe. As for his ideas on autism, I think his point was that people with autism seem to be more aware of the wrongs of modern society and generally, the aspects of modern society that they are sensitive to also happen to be the same things that far-righters oppose. Things like noise pollution, high population density, hyper-sexuality, over-socialization, normalfag consumerist culture etc. We can also see that many autists voluntarily isolate themselves from society by becoming NEETs/shut-ins for example, even though they generally are intelligent enough to be able to attain high incomes if they really tried.
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>>8329 Varg might get hyperbolic in some of his accusations, but there typically seems to be at least a grain of truth. The evidence for what I said is in the photo album that I linked in my my post here >>8267. The name to be on the lookout for in that image collection is Gerda Maria Rowsell, wife of Thomas Rowsell, aka Survive the Jive. There are multiple pictures of her hanging out with niggers and engaging in degenerate activities such as smoking weed and evidence of her 'liking' an image of a White and a black kissing. Her friends are all feminists or blacks The name Lundgren is her maiden name too, and we can see several members of her family posting "Shalom" to each other and information about Tel Aviv
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>>8329 And concerning the crypto-Catholic accusation, I think it is because he got married in a Catholic church despite claiming to be a pagan. He might have just done it for his families' sake, but who knows
>>8339 Okay, that is pretty decent evidence, I'll admit. For fuck's sake, why do most online right-wingers that aren't Jewish themselves have to end up being married to a Jewess. >>8340 He said he held two weddings; one in Christian style, the other in Pagan style. There is another photo of him in the Pagan-style wedding outside with a hat on. I don't feel like finding it right now but I'm sure it's still up on either his personal Instagram page or Twitter. And yes, he did say the Christian wedding was mainly to please relatives.
>>8329 Interesting stuff about the Oera Linda. Someone posted a video about it ITT the other day (probably you), I will have to go watch it. And on autists, I hadn't thought of it like that. If that's what he means I guess I would see what he means a bit more now
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>>8341 One should always treat ecelebs in our circles on YouTube that aren't nuked after hitting a certain threshold with a healthy dose of suspicion. Usually there's a reason why they're allowed to stay on the platform, usually being the fact that they are frauds or associated with Jews themselves. Regarding the wedding, ignoring all the stuff about his wife for a second, that's pretty innocuous. I might think that's married to an utter degenerate, but getting married in a church, especially for the sake or relatives, hardly discredits him. And you said he had another wedding too, so. Varg would disavow him completely over that, but it's understandable.
>>8342 Doesn't the Oera Linda put all priestly stuff in the hands of women? or am I mistaking it for some crazy bullshit the jews put out?
Does anyone have anything that explains why the Aryans in India became more Dravadian or Dravadian-like overtime?
>>8352 I wrote up a big post attempting to answer your question, but when I tried to submit Anon Cafe was down again. I still have it up on my computer so I will submit it tomorrow morning. Pray my computer does not reset or something, I will be very upset. Basically the post talks about some of the flaws in the caste system regarding mutts and marriages between castes in The Law Code of Manu. The ideal that is not reached in these laws is present in the Bhagavad Gita, particularly in the first chapter. This will give some good contrast for tomorrow’s post. 1.41 >With the preponderance of vice [adharma], O Krishna, the women of the family become immoral; and from the immorality of women, O descendent of Vrishni, unwanted progeny [varṇa-saṅkaraḥ] are born. The interesting term in this verse is “varṇa-saṅkaraḥ”. ‘Varna’ means according to the Cologne Digital Sanskrit Lexicon variously color, race, species, kind, tribe, order, caste, etc, while ‘sankara’ means mixing together, intermixture, commingling, especially of castes of races. So basically, varna-sankara unambiguously and undeniably means that mixed race offspring result from a preponderance of adharma, which effects the women and leads them into degeneracy and coal-burning. 1.42: >An increase in unwanted children [sankara] results in hellish life both for the family and for those who destroy the family. Deprived of the sacrificial offerings, the ancestors of such corrupt families also fall. Again we “sankara” in the Sanskrit. What this verse truly says is that more mutts make society a hellhole for all. 1.43: >Through the evil deeds of those who destroy the family tradition and thus give rise to unwanted progeny [varna-sankara], a variety of social and family welfare activities [jati-dharma] are ruined. Again we see the term referring to mixed race children and how they arise from a destruction of tradition and a spreading of vice. The term jati-dharma is also interesting. ‘Jati’ alone refers to the form of existence fixed by birth, whether this is race, species, lineage. Jatidharma means caste, duty, generic or specific. Adds a bit of nuance. We see that the Gita proclaims that race-mixing is the result of adharma, not being in tune with the Natural Order, and that the result of this is mongrels, hell on earth and the destruction of the family. Quite a contrast to the Laws of Manu, as shall be seen. If they had followed the Gita they’d still be White today
Also does anyone got an article about the whole belief of the soul evolving into heroes, demi-gods, gods and beyond? >>8354 Right, but this more explains of the fact that the Aryans did not read or listen to the warnings of the Gita, so it doesn't make sense why they would go agaisnt the Gita unless something happened in India that forced them to mix.
>>8367 >Right, but this more explains of the fact that the Aryans did not read or listen to the warnings of the Gita, so it doesn't make sense why they would go agaisnt the Gita unless something happened in India that forced them to mix. Look up the terms Pratiloma and Anuloma and a lot will begin to make sense to you. I cover this in the post I’ll submit tomorrow that includes some stuff from the Laws of Manu from how they were far too accepting of non-Aryan blood coming into castes. Unfortunately the Gita post was intended to be the second half of my original post but I wanted to get at least half of it out there.
>>8347 It is discussed in the video. They had something akin to Vestal Virgins in peacetime but would return power to men during wartime. Tacticus also described celibate Germanic women, such as Veleda, as having important spiritual positions in their society. >>8343 Well, STJ seems like he is aware of how easy it is to get banned so I think he simply refrains from making comments that make it too obvious what his political stance is but every video of his will contain some cheeky inside joke or reference. Any British man who speaks positively of his colonial roots in this day and age cannot be a leftist. >Varg would disavow him completely over that, but it's understandable. True but STJ doesn't seem to be as hardcore anti-Christian as Varg is, he has spoken very positively of some of his Christian ancestors for example. >>8347 I am currently reading Evola's book on Buddhism and there is a part where it was said that the Buddha complained about high-caste men going to bed with lower-caste women purely for lustful purposes (not unlike some men in today's west, Dolph Lundgren is a great example). There are also parts of India where the Brahmin caste is racially Dravidian and it could be that over time, these Dravidian Brahmins intermixed with the Aryan Brahmins of the more Northern regions, because they had forgotten about the racial origin of the caste system. But maybe that theory is a bit too far-stretched. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Brahmin
>>8365 >First, according to genetics and archeology, our species emerged out of eastern Africa, from dark-skinned people R*ddit moment.
>>8381 >>8365 Stop linking an edgy shitlib. I mean: >muh science and democracy came from Da People >muh capitalism/neoliberalism is bad from muh inequal >orange man bad >shitty cartoon avatar Him going full race nun reel clinches it. On a side note how come lib entertainment/entertainment culture is always either "graahh i hate this world i hate everyone in it" or "giggle wubba dub dub"?
>>8382 Because liberals are nihilists and hate everything that doesn't go their way. They are one of the worst narcissists and just as narcissistic as Marxists. >>muh science and democracy came from Da People >muh capitalism/neoliberalism is bad from muh inequal Isn't funny that liberals and communists share the same ideals and beliefs?
>>8367 >Also does anyone got an article about the whole belief of the soul evolving into heroes, demi-gods, gods and beyond? I assume you've got the claim of sou; evolution from this?http://honortheroots.com/basics-of-asatru/ >The ancient Northern Europeans viewed the soul in the exactly same way the Hellenic religion viewed the evolution of the soul. The goal of the soul was a natural evolution or progression. From human the soul has the possibility to become a hero. From hero the soul had the possibility of becoming a demi-god. From demi-god the soul could become a god and beyond. Is there any truth to this at all,? I have heard of men or the possibility of Aryans evolving into heroes and gods, but never heard of anything such as the hellenics and astaru believed that the soul could evolve.
>>8352 >Does anyone have anything that explains why the Aryans in India became more Dravadian or Dravadian-like overtime? Unironically because of hypergamy and racemixing. Chapter ten of the Law Code of Manu deals with a lot of this. Here is one telling passage: 10.66-70 >If it be asked: who is superior? A child born accidentally to a Brahmin man by a non-Arya woman or a child of a non-Arya man by a Brahmin woman? This is the resolution: a child born to an Arya man by a non-Arya woman becomes an Arya by reason of his attributes, while a child born to a non-Arya man by an Arya woman is a non-Arya. Neither of these should be permitted to receive vedic initation - that is the settled Law; the former because of the inferiority of his birth and the latter because he was born in the inverse order of class. As a good seed sprouting in a good field grows vigorously, so a child born to an Arya man by an Arya woman is worthy of receiving all the consecratory rights. >Some wise men extol the seed, others the field, and yet others both the seed and the field. 10.73 >The creator evaluated a non-Arya who acts like an Arya and a Arya who acts like a non-Arya and declared: 'They are neither equal nor unequal' Now what is interesting in these verses is that (1) it shows that there was debate over what constituted an Aryan, as is seen in the line "Some wise men extol the seed, others the field, and yet others both the seed and the field." Unfortunately, though, it appears that the most sensible solution in light of what we know today, which would be valuing both the seed and the field, was the option not settled on. Some things never change, seeing as how they appear to have settled for the classic cuck-move of "w-well if they act like us.." Vedic Aryans had two words for relations that involved people of different social classes - pratiloma and anuloma. Pratiloma referred to relations between a lower-caste man and a higher-caste woman. These are seen as degenerate, described as "going against the grain". Anuloma marriages were "with the gain". They were hypergamous. Lower status females were permitted to marry higher-caste males and have children that were accepted as Aryans or close to Aryans. This diluted the upper castes and contributed to the destruction of White Vedic society. The Bhagavad Gita condemns this degeneracy in harsh terms, as can be seen in my first post (which was supposed to come last)
>>8386 >These are seen as degenerate, described as "going against the grain". Anuloma marriages were "with the gain". They were hypergamous. Lower status females were permitted to marry higher-caste males and have children that were accepted as Aryans or close to Aryans. In other words they messed up big time.
>>8386 >>8387 I can see where they were coming from. Generally, the appearance and personality of a child born from a racemixed relationship generally depends on the race of his father. I have noticed that mulatto's with a White father will generally look very similar to Whites and also have a more tempered character whereas mulatto's born from a black father will act and look more similar to a full-blood nigger. I guess this is also the mindset that they must have applied. But I suppose over time, the exception became the rule and that is why most of the pure Aryans died out.
>>8387 >In other words they messed up big time. Yeah, you could say that. >>8389 It's also worth noting that Aryans were a small minority as well in that time. I'm not trying to justify their race-mixing, but I see why it happened. In many ways it was the opposite situation of what we see today. They were very protective over their women, but were sexually promiscuous themselves when it came to intermingling with subhumans. Today it's the opposite. We've lost all hold on our women. Seems to be very similar to what happened in the Americas with the Spanish. I doubt many Spanish women were getting married to natives, but we all know that men were fathering mestizos left and right.
>>8392 Well, both situations are bad of course, but I still prefer such a more patriarchal scenario over the matriarchal system that Jews have where women are the promiscuous race-mixers. >It's also worth noting that Aryans were a small minority as well in that time I wonder why there never was an attempt to import fellow Aryans from other societies, such as that of Iran, to make up for their lack of numbers. Supposedly, that is what the elite of Ancient Egypt did because they were that against intermixing with the dark-skinned lower classes. At some points, they even went so far as to marry their own siblings to keep the bloodline pure.
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>>8398 >I still prefer such a more patriarchal scenario over the matriarchal system that Jews have where women are the promiscuous race-mixers. Oh, for sure >I wonder why there never was an attempt to import fellow Aryans from other societies, such as that of Iran, to make up for their lack of numbers. That's a good question. I think it raises the question of how united Aryans saw themselves to be. Just look at ancient Greece. There was of course a distinction between the Greek and the Barbarian, but it's a little harder to say that there was a single Greek people given the fact that there was ethnic subdivisions within the Greek people of antiquity and a high degree of localism. That isn't to say that there was no Greek people and that it's all a fiction like Jews would tell you. There undeniable were common features, racial characteristics, shared Panhellenic traditions, gods, etc. If something like this existed in Greece alone, I can only imagine that between northern India and Iran a divergence between languages and traditions probably grew larger and larger, as well as had memory of their origins in the west. More importantly though, I think if we look at the geography between Iran and Northern India, we're hit with the Himalayas
John Chang demonstrating Chi/Vril/Prana https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdYM0vNufwc There is a book about this guy, called "The Magus of Java".
>>8428 I watched a Robert Sepher video on Vril as well, and always wondered what it was and how the NS accessed it.
>As for his ideas about Paganism not really being about worshiping gods but rather about attaining and contacting supernatural powers, this actually seems very similar to Evola's views on what religion is supposed to be Right, but how is that going to work? You can't really become a God and I'm pretty sure the sagas and Vedic makes it the case that mortals can't become Godly, so it would only end in pretend.
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Varg has always been an atheist clothed in pagan aesthetics. I like the guy, but everything I've seen so far seems to support my view.
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>>8439 >Nature is the Gods In a way this is true >We are the gods Literally that make no sense whatsoever >The childish idea of real gods is that you can pray to and talk to What the fuck is he even talking about? He is not seriously going to tell pagans to play and pretend as a God or something?
>>8443 Have you never encountered Cosmotheism? or the theory that the Gods are just our ancestors and thus we carry their divine heritage and as such would be more akin to gods than other races?
>>8446 Is he really expounding anything like Cosmotheism here, though? I have my doubts. As you know obviously, Cosmotheism says that we partake in the divine nature of the Whole as a consequence of everything within the Whole being a mere part in relation to it. From what I've read or heard from Pierce, we certainly are manifestations of God, but not really "gods", since the main "creed" or shortest summary of Cosmotheist beliefs says that our destiny is godhood, so there has to be a continual evolution towards this path, but I don't think that is what Varg is quite saying >or the theory that the Gods are just our ancestors and thus we carry their divine heritage and as such would be more akin to gods than other races? Redpill me on this, isn't that Serrano's theory?
>>8439 There isn't much difference between an "atheist" and a "deist" in this context, you can believe there's something more without believing the Jew god is going to physically step on us at any moment. I am Germanic and I knew immediately when I was very very young that Christianity was totally phony, and I had epiphanies while sitting alone in the snowy forest much like Hitler did, our religion should be based around the mystery and magic of such blood memories in order to reinforce what is already there, making the ancestors who created our instincts God. "Real" gods don't need to enter into the equation unless for some reason we think we need to wrangle retards instead of purging them asap via eugenics.
>>8446 But he rejects that there is a such thing as real gods meaning he probably doesn't believe in truly believe in the divine. It seems he sees that Aryans should either make others believe we are Godly or pretend we are godly or something.
>>8451 I'd also be interested in seeing what exactly he means by "NATURE is the gods". There are two alternatives here - (1) he literally believes that Nature is divine, or (2) he is just poetically speaking about the world around him. Pantheism is a good position to hold, I think, and it is far from Abrahamic theism in its conception of God. Concerning anthropomorphic gods, I'm fairly sure they aren't real, but it's worth noting that they only showed themselves to certain people of their choice in the old epics, especially the Greek ones. I remain skeptical though
>>8452 My guess is that he believes that nature itself is Godly and that we humans are its protectors or something. >Concerning anthropomorphic gods, I'm fairly sure they aren't real, Curious why do you say that? I honestly think that they may take human forms once in a while. but not in a sense that is their true forms.
>>8453 >My guess is that he believes that nature itself is Godly and that we humans are its protectors or something. I could see him thinking that. He has criticized atheists in the past if I remember correctly so unless we are to presume some serious double-think he must view himself as not an atheist, and that would be the most likely position for him to have. I'll have to take the time to find as much info from Varg on this matter as possible one of these days. >I honestly think that they may take human forms once in a while. but not in a sense that is their true forms. You know, that is very possible and would be an interesting rebuttal to Xenophanes' criticism of anthropomorphism: >If cows and horses and lions had hands, or could draw with their hands and make things as men can, horses would have drawn horse-like gods, cows cow-like gods, and each species would have made their gods bodies' just like their own
>>8459 >You know, that is very possible and would be an interesting rebuttal to Xenophanes' criticism of anthropomorphism Wouldn't this change how we look at the sagas as well?
>>8449 I don't know whose theory it is, though i know groups like the Stoics expounded on it as a theory. It seems the proper way to view it that within this universe there are no gods per se like some think of Zeus and Indra, so Zeus et al. were mortal men who performed deeds so great that they were deified posthumously, this is how I view it and as such any man can be a god he just has to be deemed worthy of it by his people. A separate question is that of Supreme gods forces like Brahman or if I remember my Greek mythology correctly the Primordial Chaos or Pierces Creator those are logically correct to believe in but as a First cause, whether they are sapient or have any impact on this universe beyond being the Law of nature itself, I don't think anyone can know.
>>8468 I think it would change things less than we’d think, actually. Unless you have a specific example in mind
>>8446 >than other races But other races do ancestor worship too iirc.
>>8485 And? that they do it too, does not invalidate our own views on it, nor does it make any claims of theirs of being closest to gods or god or what have you any more or less valid either. They are free to believe they are superior and we are free to demonstrate just how fucking mistaken they are.
>>8495 > They are free to believe they are superior and we are free to demonstrate just how fucking mistaken they are. If that's the case why not just exterminate them?
>>8498 Many intend to, it's called Ethnoglobe, though the concept stretches as far back as Darwin who sincerely believed the superior races aka Whites, would exterminate all other great apes on earth within a few hundred years.
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>>8499 Case in point: >While European tribes spread over the whole globe, other tribes or species of men every year draw nearer to their complete extinction. This is the case especially with the redskins of America, and with the copper-coloured natives of Australia. Even if these races were to propagate more abundantly than the White Europeans, yet they would sooner or later succumb to the latter in the struggle for life. t. Ernst Haeckel
>>8439 He's just saying that the gods aren't meant to be seen as being these anthropomorphic figures who sit on a cloud controlling the weather with magical hammers, which is a view that was spread by early Christians to discredit the Pagan faith. Maybe the masses did view religion that way but I highly doubt the priests/druids of pre-Christian Europe would have thought the gods were something like that. Collin Cleary also speaks of this subject of how literally one should take the Pagan gods in his book 'Summoning the Gods'. So I don't see how these views, which are common among people who delve deeper into the true nature of religion, make him an atheist, he just doesn't take religion as literally as some people would. In every Aryan faith, the anthropomorphic gods were always seen as being personifications of different aspects of the actual highest divine power.
>>8506 >Maybe the masses did view religion that way but I highly doubt the priests/druids of pre-Christian Europe would have thought the gods were something like that. We definitely know from books like Cicero's "The Nature of the Gods" that the idea of the gods as a man in the clouds controlling the weather or whatever was something they associated with superstitious people in the masses. These were educated Roman aristocrats speaking, but it wouldn't surprise me if priests / druids had more sophisticated ideas of the gods as well. It's really a shame that what people learn in school is this extremely simple and dumbed-down conception of what pagan religions were. In that book I mentioned above, there was debate over whether the gods were anthropomorphic or not, but even the arguments in the book seemed to hit this pretty hard, so there were definitely people who believed this in one way or another.
>>8509 >It's really a shame that what people learn in school is this extremely simple and dumbed-down conception of what pagan religions were I think it also has to do with the fact that the majority of followers of the Abrahamic religions today take their own faith and scriptures as literally as possible (part of the reason why religion itself got a bad reputation in recent decades and as a result we saw the rise of the 'militant atheist') so they assume that it must have been the same for other religious groups. I myself went to a Christian school as a child and as is common in Christian education, it was never implied in any way that there could be some sort of symbolic meaning behind the stories in the Bible, we were essentially taught that these fantastical stories were exactly how history played out and that God was directly communicating and intervening with the people involved in these stories.
>>8506 He's also denying that there are no divine gods that we don't harmonize with which is incorrect. Varg doing his famous right and wrong sperginess once again. The Gods are indeed real and they do have divine power, they are a part of nature and we can communicate with them to extents, and obtain their gifts, but yes they never were Anthromorphic nor were they ever viewed by the priests in a Abrahamic viewpoint.
>>8511 You're definitely right about a sort of crude literalism or shallow understandings in general being pretty common. The "sky daddy" meme doesn't just come from nowhere, unfortunately. It comes from a really shallow conception of theism that takes literally five minutes of research to see that no educated philosopher has ever argued for such a thing. And from the fact that many militant atheists who were formerly Christian use such an idea of God when trying to argue against theists shows that they probably held such a shallow and unsophisticated view themselves. Ideally education in the future will not entirely neglect these matters.
>Read 'Myth of the 20th Century' by Alfred Rosenberd >Read 'Wisdom of the stoics' by Carl Jung >Read 'The Kyballion' by The Three Initiates >Read 'The Next Leap' by IronMarch >Read 'The Lightning and the Sun' by Savitri Devi >Read 'The Chaldean Oracles' by Zoroaster (what little fragments are left) also, if anyone can help fit the gnostic tradition into this reading list, it would be much appreciated; i personally struggle with that path as it always seems to be more 'dark' than most theological works i've read.
>>8589 I’m reading pic related literally right now and I think it’s well worth reading. I’ve learned some interesting things about Marcion and Valentinus in particular. I thought that the Demiurge was always some malevolent being, but this is not necessarily, he is a flawed or ignorant as best, though in some systems he was cast as evil. Some quotes: >Marcion’s creator god, by contrast, is not evil, but unrelentingly just. His moral demands on human beings are not really wrong—certainly people should not kill, and they should honor their parents—but he has set the bar so high, and his punishments are so severe, that mere mortal human beings cannot hope to avoid eternal damnation. His severe and uncompromising regime resembles that of authoritarian earthly rulers. Unlike Ialdabaoth, this creator does not have a clear relationship to the ultimate God, whom Marcion calls the Stranger. The Stranger is a divine being who is utterly transcendent and, until the arrival of Jesus, unknown to this created order. >Valentinus took from the Gnostics the idea that the created material world is the result of some sort of mistake or error by a feminine figure. He did not, however, portray this world in unrelentingly negative terms, but stressed its dependence on God and its ultimate meaninglessness, even unreality. According to Irenaeus, Valentinus agreed with the Gnostics that the ultimate God unfolds himself into a series of emanations, one of which “revolted” or “turned away” and “became lacking,” resulting in the generation of the material world. In The Gospel of Truth, this turning away from knowledge of the ultimate God is personified as Error, the feminine origin of materiality. Valentinus’s Error combines and adapts the figures of Wisdom and Ialdabaoth in Gnostic myth. Because the material world has its origin in error or ignorance, it is ultimately not real, for the only true reality is God, and other beings are real only to the extent that they participate in God through knowledge of him.
>>8597 thanks. i will look into. i want to be very surgical about this line of thought
>>8660 No problem, I always love to recommend books that I have enjoyed. Somewhat off-topic but since I've seen a lot of talk about gods and Got lately the author made an interesting statement that no ancient person, even Jews or Christians, were monotheists in the sense today that someone believes that one and only one God exists, but instead they were believers in a single high God atop a hierarchy of lesser gods, demons, and other spiritual beings. I think that's definitely accurate. >>8684 >Dan Voshart Fuck that faggot. I'm so tired of seeing that guy's swarthy butcherings of the Roman emperors posted all over the Internet. Thuletide's OC is much closer to the truth. I mean facially-speaking, he's almost spot on. I'd nitpick over the hair colors (they were more Nordic than he says, I think), but besides that it's a great pic.
>>8699 The Ancient romans were FAR more nordic in phenotype than that picture or thuletide says they have literally drawn the pigments out of the existing Greek and roman statuary prior to roughly 200 BC the Emperors Including Julius, traitor though he was, were Blonde Blue eyed or of the other various Nordic Phenotypes as for the Greeks they even had Red hair, Blue eyes were as common for them as they are for swedes today these two great Aryan races have fallen partly because of their own mistake, (thank you Alexander) but also because of both the Christian jew and Pharisaic jew.
>>8744 I meant 200 A.D or CE whichever.
>>8744 >>8745 Yeah, he's certainly incorrect that one can just "take a trip to Italy" and see what the ancient Romans looked like. His image is a step up in that it actually shows Europeans rather than a bunch of digitally-created sandniggers, but the Italians of today are not the people who lived their in ancient times. For one reason or another, the entire Mediterranean region has been progressively polluted with non-White admixture. To look at Greek epics for a moment, we see that Achilles was blond, Odysseus was blond, Hector was blond, Menelaus was red-haired, etc. Many of the gods were described the same as well. And you've pointed out the pigmentation of the statues already. The true history of our people is being covered up, and what is even more worrying is that if we accept the proofs that many parts of Asia were much Whiter in the past, and that the real Greeks consisted of White people with blond hair, hair hair, etc and that the Romans were far more Nordic, we're left wondering WHY exactly Whites have been being confined to smaller and smaller areas of the globe as time passes
>>8759 >blond hair, hair hair *blond hair, red hair
>>8759 Why? I think Christianity is one of the main reasons why, Finding out what they did and how they so thoroughly destroyed what we had as Romans, so that no other group could revive it, just makes me livid and so very hateful.
>>8759 >For one reason or another, the entire Mediterranean region has been progressively polluted with non-White admixture. Would you consider modern day italians and greeks to not be White? Seems a bit silly to go that route. Would you consider the people in image 1 to not be White? If that is the case, it almost feels like we would be entering the kike lie territory of "Hitler wanted to kill everyone who didn't have blonde hair and blue eyes"
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>>8798 I honestly can't as confidently call the people in this picture White as I can the average Frenchman, Scandanavian, German, Englishmen, etc. That doesn't mean I consider them complete subhumans on par with niggers or anything though. I'm just calling it how I see it as far as I'm concerned. The Jews certainly lie about Hitler when they talk about blond hair and blue eyes, but it would be false to say that Hitler did not see differences between Europeans in terms of racial value. In the Zweites Buch one of the main reasons he gives for avoiding a united Europe is that it would lead to intermixture between European peoples of different levels and a resulting decline in the higher. He didn't name names though. I still see them as Europeans though, albeit ones who have degenerated from what their ancestors once were. Through eugenics it may not be too late to preserve and elevate the best elements and breed their groups slowly back to a higher level. They too are targets of the great replacement. >>8796 Very possible. Christianity is truly one of the greatest misfortunes that our people has ever experienced.
Reminder only the following push the Romans/South Europeans not White meme: 1. Vargtards, Wignats who get all their talking points from memes, the whole Trash Right. 2. Leftoids who both try to delegitimatize European history/accomplishment ("you didn't build that") and legitimatize Anti-European politics by appealing to some We Wuz Kangz past where Rome was a giant San Francisco. 3. Europeans who hate being European and want to be some "PoC." The Flight from White. 4. Nigs, Achmeds like Taleb, Jews, who want to appropriate European accomplishment. 4.
>>8810 These people are not White. It’s undeniable. Their ancestors were, the people who made Rome and Greece so great, but the vast majority of their descendents today exist in a degenerated state.
Also one should read this post >>8759 and this post >>8699 and ask themselves WHERE DID ALL OF THE BLOND HAIRED AND RED HAIRED GREEKS AND ITALIANS GO? They don’t exist today beyond extremely tiny numbers. The tide of mud has been rising slowly for millennia now
>>8812 >I don't care what genetics says Next you'll be saying you can be a woman trapped in a man's body and that there are gay genes.
ITT >faggot, nigger, newfag, (you), faggot, retard, imbecile, retard, faggot, nigger
>>8199 >I'd like to specifically address Trump and Zionism. as you well know, the ADL has long worked to ensure that anti-semitism is verboten in polite society. for Trump to openly blame Jews or even Israel would simply be too dangerous. by publicly supporting Zionism and being friendly with Jews, this provides Trump with a shield against accusations of anti-semitism, and can even turn it around on his opponents. in addition, Christian evangelicals are an important consituency, and they're pro-Israel for various theological reasons. it all makes strategic sense, as usual. Shill more please.
>>8810 Southern Europeans aren't White they have fucking North African and leviantine genes. Southern cucks are inbetween European and Eastern, people like Taleb are fucking retarded and loves to act like his people are so fucking great when they're one of the most inbred, weakest, and stupidest human beings. If Medcucks are so great then they wouldn't have destroyed and ruin their civilizations with their retardation.
>>8815 Anon, DNA tests come from Jews like (((Harvard))), along with the fact that many retards in the med areas are so afraid of people like Hitler being right that they literally cry Nazi. DNA tests are full of shit, they tried to conclude that the Greeks were medcucks in classical Greece despite the fact that they only took DNA of commoners.
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>>8815 I'm quite skeptical of genetics. Just this week we've been told to believe by geneticists that akshually Vikings were super diverse. I'll trust the literary sources written by Greeks and Romans more than the genetics of the current year.
>>8831 >>8834 You're sounding like a Leftoid when informed about biological differences between the sexes. Denial of scientific findings shouldn't be a tool of the Dissident Right. >Taleb A self-hating Levantine. >West Asian and Levantine All Europeans have Anatolian mixture. >>8837 Just another dimwit in the DR. The Leftoids draw in midwits while the DR draws in dimwits and autists.
>>8854 >Denial of scientific findings shouldn't be a tool of the Dissident Right. Science is only as reliable as the one reporting the findings
>>8854 >Denial of scientific findings shouldn't be a tool of the Dissident Right. >You sound like a leftists for not listening to muh science! Anon scientists are the same dumbasses who come to the conclusion that we are all from Africa and that blue eyes originated in the middle East. They are the same fucking idiots who are filled with kikes who lie about Europeans and humanity to create social change for their commie and libshit values. You sound like a Redditor trying to fit in with fascism. >A self-hating Levantine. He's not self-hating, he literally spews levantine bullshit and thinks Greeks are an off-brand of levantine people along with their culture. He's in no way self-hating just a massive faggot who won't admit that his people were the twinks slaves of the world. >All Europeans have Anatolian mixture. What the fuck does this even mean?
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>>8855 Unless you deny objective reality itself then no. The information is there to be found and >>8857 >Denial of scientific findings shouldn't be a tool of the Dissident Right. >You sound like a leftists for not listening to muh science! Considering the long time Leftoid denial of biological differences impacting criminality, accomplishment, etc., yes you sound like one. >Anon scientists are the same dumbasses who come to the conclusion that we are all from Africa It's more that extinct populations migrated out of Africa. These populations would have no blood connection with Africa today. >and that blue eyes originated in the middle East. Lay off the Varg and the We Wuz Neanderthals. >They are the same fucking idiots who are filled with kikes who lie about Europeans and humanity to create social change for their commie and libshit values. Name them. You haven't shown you engage in this subject at all. >muh reddit Actual Fascism isn't primivitism. >He's not self-hating, he literally spews levantine bullshit and thinks Greeks are an off-brand of levantine people along with their culture. He's in no way self-hating just a massive faggot who won't admit that his people were the twinks slaves of the world. You don't actually read what he says. He wouldn't be so hostile when told he's an Arab if he wasn't self-hating. >What the fuck does this even mean? What it says. The so-called admixture you yap about is largely mixture from Anatolia's indigenous inhabitants.
>>8860 >Considering the long time Leftoid denial of biological differences impacting criminality, accomplishment, etc., yes you sound like one. Science and leftists have been shilling scientific materialism for the longest now. It's not leftist to deny science for left wingers will deny it if it means that it goes agaisnt their ideals and most sciences haven't been doing that at all. >It's more that extinct populations migrated out of Africa. These populations would have no blood connection with Africa today. There aren't any evidence nor any populations from Europe that came out of Africa, stop with this shit. >Lay off the Varg and the We Wuz Neanderthals. >Actually believes it orginates in the middle East You don't have to be varg to sense bullshit dumbass. >Name them. You haven't shown you engage in this subject at all. Didn't I just state the out of africa bullshit? Or how they came to conclusions that commoners represented all of Greece? They also tried to deny that the Trojans existed along with claiming that civilization is the creation of everything and that hunter gathers had little influence on farmer cucks. >Actual Fascism isn't primivitism. You clearly don't know what fascism is considering that being skeptical of modern academics and science is not primitive. All you're doing is proving that you are indeed a redditor. >What it says. The so-called admixture you yap about is largely mixture from Anatolia's indigenous inhabitants. In other words refugees welcome #weareallone
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>>8860 >Unless you deny objective reality itself Jewish science reflecting objective reality is precisely what I deny. It's politically motivated to reflect their ideology. You can't verify it yourself, and oftentimes they want you to warp your perception of reality to fit things just on the word of (((experts))) alone. Peak bugman.
>>8863 Who would of known that right wingers would also become bugmen. I've seen your gay tweets and can confirm that everyone in those twitter are massive faggots especially gastornis who gets his research from (((Harvard))) and is a massive faggot who believes that he can be a pan aryanists while shilling christ cuckoldry, same goes for the dumb weeb fascist. Fuck twitter and fuck modern science. Right wing cucks believing in anything academia says is further proof they're faggots.
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>hey, goy, lemme tell you about your genetics
>>8863 >Wineandammo >Cute Boy Appreciator Amazing
>>8267 Will look into it. Guenon is a dead end, a fucking blackpill of epic proportions. >>8339 Look at the dates though. You read 2014 or 2015 and sometimes the posts are even dated "5 years" from these two first dates. Redpilling is a long process and many of us took wrong paths in the past. >The name Lundgren is her maiden name too, and we can see several members of her family posting "Shalom" to each other and information about Tel Aviv Do we? >>8340 >And concerning the crypto-Catholic accusation, I think it is because he got married in a Catholic church despite claiming to be a pagan. He might have just done it for his families' sake, but who knows Very possible. The Catholic Church stills carries lots of symbolic weight and power and for those seeking something sacred to acknowledge an union, it is hard to find something outside of Christianity that seems valid. I've seen some atheists still do it in the Church because of the gold, bells and whistles, but many don't have their wedding validated this way. For a serious pagan, it's a very unnerving struggle. >>8354 >If they had followed the Gita they’d still be White today More like there would still be some Whites at the top of society, assuming they would have not been massively outnumbers by Dravidians who might have revolted at some point.
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>>8867 I want to know who are these people who make Twitter accounts like pic related and think they should be taken seriously. I found this guy in the "related people" section on a gastornis17 tweet
>>8863 Why exactly should I believe any of these people or modern science when all of these people are massive faggots. The people who run these sciences are Jews and christcucks. The original Aryans were phenotypically Europid or Nordic looking as well as genetically. Southern Europeans and most Europeans today are not Aryan. These sciences if anything support christcuck and ashenkazi with their universal beliefs. Scientists like David and science institutions go back and forth on what the original Europeans look like and genetically were like. First we wuz niggers then we wuz middle eastern. No matter if the truth supports a fascist viewpoint, scientists will never support that type of academia. >>8869 Twitter is a kike site filled with mutts and queers nothing they say should be taking seriously.
>>8365 A really, really stupid author. That's all. I actually wasted my precious time reading this shit. Why did you post this? You're some newfag who knows little about fascism and, by being lazy, wanted to be spoon fed information. Well guess what, wrong deal. You will lurk more. A lot more.
>>8370 >pratiloma, anuloma Assuming the woman would not be allowed to move out of her caste, then a woman of a higher cast should not receive sexual gratification from a lower caste man, but a higher caste man might engross a lower caste woman which would have the advantage of destroying a portion of the genetic information of the woman who belongs to a lower cast. In other words, the Whiter blood would spill over into the lower ranks and Whiten them, but the darker blood shall not rise towards the summit. Obviously none of these laws were followed with strict observance. The hardest point is knowing WHEN the racial dominion of Whites over the dark skins started to corrode to a dramatic effect. Do we have data? Another possibility could be that some White Flight happened and seeing how their religion had been distorted to fit with the dark skins' beliefs, I knew one had to be created. >>8384 >>The ancient Northern Europeans viewed the soul in the exactly same way the Hellenic religion viewed the evolution of the soul. The goal of the soul was a natural evolution or progression. From human the soul has the possibility to become a hero. From hero the soul had the possibility of becoming a demi-god. From demi-god the soul could become a god and beyond. >Is there any truth to this at all,? We know that Gods can learn and die, and even become corrupt (see Loki), but I don't remember any indication that humans are called to become Gods themselves. There is a form of sorting that goes on and perhaps through reincarnation of and experience (the metaphor for Valholl) then maybe you might access something superior, but it's highly conjectural thus far. >>8386 I don't know if the translation is faulty here but there might be a slight confrontation here: >a child born to an Arya man by a non-Arya woman becomes an Arya >Neither of these should be permitted to receive vedic initation - that is the settled Law; the former because of the inferiority of his birth He is considered Arya (despite being a mutt born of an inferior woman), which I infer is more of a title here (which is already a problem then because initially it strictly was exclusive to the settlers' tribe). Then the inferiority of his birth is due to the caste or class he's born in, that of his mother. it really looks like the LoM is weak on the racial element here. >Unfortunately, though, it appears that the most sensible solution in light of what we know today, which would be valuing both the seed and the field As evidence above. Unfortunate. Why would they do that? Likely because it was too late, because of political pressure, of the feminizing of mind. >Some things never change, seeing as how they appear to have settled for the classic cuck-move of "w-well if they act like us.." Hindu civnat. Make Mahabharat Great Again >>8389 >I can see where they were coming from. Generally, the appearance and personality of a child born from a racemixed relationship generally depends on the race of his father. I have noticed that mulatto's with a White father will generally look very similar to Whites and also have a more tempered character whereas mulatto's born from a black father will act and look more similar to a full-blood nigger. That couldn't be more made up. I've seen so many White fathers' genetic legacy being hugely erased through their offspring, both with yellow or brown women. There is no real rule here and working on averages, there is not going to be any miracle here. Only a full White with a 3/4 woman could reasonably contribute to the birth of a good number of kids before one in the pack looks like he inherited the genetic material of maternal grandfather or grandmother.
>>8402 >Einstein debunked. Usually it's done by attacking two ideas. First, that he came up with E=mc² all by himself. Secondly, by exposing the absurdity of a model explaining gravity with use of another force that exactly behaves like the gravity he's meant to explain. It's literally circular, but in some Inception way. It weakens the time-dilation principle too. However, what you posted is somewhat something different. >link1 This is a very innovative claim and requires lots of caution. It is strange since E=mc² seems to have been reliably put to the test for many decades now, but might be the result of an erroneous perspective, an illusion of some sort. It speaks of "retardation of gravity". >as we will see in the next paragraph, it is instead clear that a fundamental property of the SR has been falsified by Fermilab. It throws other elements into the mix: >The second postulate, the constancy of the speed of light has never been proven. >On the contrary, the Sagnac effect shows that in a rotating system, the constancy of light is violated. And >As far as needed, let me remind that also other deduced effects from SR are disputed. >In laboratories, it hasn’t been possible to prove the time dilatation, but the increased life time of the pimesons (pions) at high velocities has been taken as an indirect proof. >However, other explanations for the longer life time of pions exist that are at least equally plausible [6]. >The two clocks of Hafele and Keating, moving in opposite directions about the Earth, have experienced similar motions as the Sagnac effect with respect to the stationary earth bound clock. >The clock experiments didn’t follow the twin paradox presumption. >Doug Marett pointed out that “if their motions were truly ‘relative’, then by the rules of SR both should arrive back at the starting point having experienced the same amount of time dilation in the same direction. >The actual result was that one travelled clock increased in its time rate and the other decreased.” That's badly worded in my opinion but it highlights the contradiction in the SR model. An alternative based on gravity having an effect would fit, but it would require acknowledging the influence of gravity on subparticles, which modern physics deny. >So, the mathematics that Einstein used for his coordinate system transform possibly was correct, but the interpretation he gave it wasn’t. That's a new claim. Usually, to demonstrated that Einstein didn't come up with E=mc², it's pointed out how he failed to demonstrate the theorem through mathematics, yet miraculously managed to reach the proper conclusion (by ignoring the conflicting mathematics). But now the mathematics "possibly was correct (sigh), but the interpretation" not. >Einstein has made a first attempt for a coordinate system transform and has tried to deduce a number of predictions from it. >Unfortunately, both the deductions and the predictions are found wrong. >The thing is that the establishment knows very well that all these issues occur and that they invalidate SR. >However, the same establishment stubbornly refuse to draw conclusions and to apply the correct theory instead of SR. >The scientific domains of theoretical gravity [9], theoretical astronomy [10] and theoretical cosmology [11] experience a total standstill for decades. >Technological progress however will deprive bit by bit SR’s and GR’s right of survival, which is so anxiously maintained by certain groups. Quite the antisemitic claim! >link2 Can't download the file. Please associate the PDF in a post. >>8422 >Greek relative homogeneity Not so fast. The Northern-Doric element was clearly different and is what contributed to the rise of the Greek elements. Perhaps the Acheans had something to do with it too. The invaders lorded over the natives who were close enough to be very compatible but that blood has been lost and I suspect the initial input not to have been high enough to last more than 500 years. Even before the Persian and Islamic invasions, Greece was already faltering and incapable of outputting the same level of excellency as it was once known for. >>8434 >Vril I'm afraid it's all hogwash. But the ki/energy stuff has more validity and it's like low-level mutant powers. I think there's a Russian who's known to be able to generate some form of very small electric arcs, iirc by using metal tools like spoons for example. By the words of the Chinese man (see the post you replied to), this ability was obtained through practical meditation over the years. On another hand, Sepher (Seifer?) is found praising the Ashkenazim when talking about IQ points too, like did Stefan Molyneux. They certainly are very White in looks but be cautious.
>>8439 >>8451 I would kindly disagree with there not being any greater entities influencing things their own way, and that no communication could be established with them. The real question being what are they exactly? We might see them as greater minds (higher Selves), and how do they borrow or connect to the universal principles that support the universe, acting as mediating agents and thus as "Gods" with x, y and z attributes, all largely based on our own mental projections of what they could or should be. I'd concur that Varg is working from his theoretical knowledge and hasn't gone into much empiricism, so he's likely a deist and does not go beyond that. >>8452 >Concerning anthropomorphic gods, I'm fairly sure they aren't real, but it's worth noting that they only showed themselves to certain people of their choice in the old epics, especially the Greek ones. I remain skeptical though Well, I remember two cases of encounters myself which seemed both very convenient. In retrospect one felt like I was being probed for my personal traits and the other was like a genuine help that came out of nowhere. For this, I may rather suggest that some people can really be influenced to the point of being brought on your path at a specific time and place. I find this more acceptable than the idea of these beings having the ability to manifest as humans and walk away and dissolve into the nether as fast as they came by. All of this is extremely speculative too. >>8459 >You know, that is very possible and would be an interesting rebuttal to Xenophanes' criticism of anthropomorphism If these animals were meant to be like us, they'd be like us. I'm not seeing where Xenophanes was going with this. it's one of those stupid cases of "yeah but what if you were him?" and I just say "I'm not him". This, in particular, when time comes to defend the case of migrants. There are plenty of variations on this reduction to the other (put latin here if you want). >>8481 There might be something of this order in the Aesir-Vanir war, and Snorri certainly didn't reduce this effect with his genealogy for some gods, although there are disputes on why he'd have done this. There is merit to the deification thesis because it already happened a lot even at times when certain people had barely passed away in Ancient Rome, and we all have heard of the "White Gods" of many ancient myths from tribes that are nothing White at all. >>8511 >I think it also has to do with the fact that the majority of followers of the Abrahamic religions today take their own faith and scriptures as literally as possible (part of the reason why religion itself got a bad reputation in recent decades and as a result we saw the rise of the 'militant atheist') so they assume that it must have been the same for other religious groups. But they are written to be very realistic sounding, whereas pagan myths shouldn't, in theory, seem so literally possible. >>8597 Is this the book that covers the whole range of Gnosticism as some kind of very pessimistic world view? I heard there's a book like that that goes deep into this defeatist tackle on life. >Marcion: have this Nightmare Mode life >Valentinus: whole place is fake and shat by some anti-patriarchy meta-vagina with a toolbox Fine. >>8699 >Somewhat off-topic but since I've seen a lot of talk about gods and Got lately the author made an interesting statement that no ancient person, even Jews or Christians, were monotheists in the sense today that someone believes that one and only one God exists, but instead they were believers in a single high God atop a hierarchy of lesser gods, demons, and other spiritual beings. I think that's definitely accurate. It has to be to some degree because even if it says "there is no other God but me", earlier books, aside from having names for YHWH which are in fact written as plural forms, say one shall not worship other Gods. >>8798 They're close to gypsies. They'd be more at home in the Middle East, Lebanon or Syria. >>8800 >In the Zweites Buch one of the main reasons he gives for avoiding a united Europe It must not be an union but an empire that forces North blood onto ALL the other countries, continuously, for centuries. >>8810 Southmost Euros are borderline not White. South Italy comes to mind but is not an isolated case. >>8812 Tone down the D&C will you? The pic with the flags has people who definitely count as White. The grumpy guy on the far right is not and the old orthodox man on the left takes a lot on the Dinaric element I'd say, with a strong influence from the Persian genome. With the picture featuring the girls, the two on the right are definitely White, the other looks almost Asian.
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>>8897 >it really looks like the LoM is weak on the racial element here. Yes, it's very unfortunate, because the rest of the LoM is very stringent and well-worth studying as a way to organize a hierarchical caste society. As it even says in the LoM, the dharma of the king is to preserve the caste boundaries, but it is fairly clear that by the time that this was written that it had all but completely failed due to rampant race-mixing, making the distinctions little more than functional rather than racial and functional. The racial element was the sustaining element of course. Any attempt to take inspiration from the LoM in some domain today would have to be fully in line with modern racial science. The castes must not be permitted to mix. As Yukio Mishima wrote in Runaway Horses, the Laws of Manu are a reflection of the principles inherent in nature, not order imposed on chaos from without by man (see pic). The faults of yesteryear are a product of a poorly grasped understanding of nature, a blurry image of sorts. >Make Mahabharat Great Again Kek >I've seen so many White fathers' genetic legacy being hugely erased through their offspring, both with yellow or brown women. This is what I've seen from experience as well. White features are totally destroyed through race-mixing and the non-White parent is usually dominant. A handsome masculine White man can easily produce a pack of goblins
>>8908 >principles inherent in nature, not order imposed on chaos from without by man (see pic) So what he's saying is that a caste system make seem oppressive but it's actually just a way to divide people based on race (an uncontrollable factor) to their specific abilities. basically making use of nature's limits. My question is were caste systems allowing people of different casts to be friends (social wise)?
>>8899 >I'm afraid it's all hogwash. How is Vril hogwash?
>>8914 >How is Vril hogwash? Isn't it literally from some novel? I'm not discounting it entirely, if there's something I don't know, redpill me. >>8913 >So what he's saying is that a caste system make seem oppressive but it's actually just a way to divide people based on race (an uncontrollable factor) to their specific abilities. basically making use of nature's limits. I would agree with that characterization of it. This is essentially what National Socialism tries to do. We look to the Natural Order and work within its constraints. We are not totally determined by its Laws, there's leeway for human creativity and artifice, but if we overstep our boundaries and overly flaunt the Laws of Nature, we pay the price. Degeneracy and decline are our rewards. >My question is were caste systems allowing people of different casts to be friends (social wise)? I'll get back to you on this in a little bit. I'll look through my book and get back. It might be under an actual ID. I'd think no.
>>8916 It was a novel by Edward Bulwer Lytton, that supposedly led to the creation of the the Vrill Society which is said to been within Weimar Germany by the book The Morning of the Magicians. The Vril society is said to have inspired or even lead the occult and esoteric societies of National Socialist Germany. That's as much as I know about it, but I was curious why you say it's hogwash unless somewhere here who knows about it can explain it.
>>8918 I’m a different guy from the one who called it hogwash. >>8913 >My question is were caste systems allowing people of different casts to be friends (social wise)? There’s not too much on friendship in the LoM after looking at every mention listed in the index. Reading between the lines we can get some general ideas though. We can see stuff saying not to eat the food of a shudra, and guidelines saying that: 4.244-245 >He should always build relationships with people of the highest possible rank and avoid anyone of a lower rank, if he wants to raise his family to a higher rank. By going to people of the highest possible rank and avoiding those who are lower, a Brahmin achieves distinction; by doing the opposite, he is reduced to the level of a Śūdra.
>>8901 >Is this the book that covers the whole range of Gnosticism as some kind of very pessimistic world view? I heard there's a book like that that goes deep into this defeatist tackle on life. This book is more a broad overview and introduction than anything else, fairly scholarly. And there is lots of talk on how early Christians used the term "gnosis", and on the many varieties of Christianity that existed prior to the emergence of an eventual orthodoxy. >Well, I remember two cases of encounters myself which seemed both very convenient. In retrospect one felt like I was being probed for my personal traits and the other was like a genuine help that came out of nowhere Story? If it's worth hearing or if you want to share of course.
>>8901 The story of Dionysus is proof the Greeks believed in deification although I am not certain who Dionysus was supposed to be as a mortal, it follows that perhaps all the gods reached Deity status that way and the legends of how were lost, either to the Greeks/Romans themselves, or through the destruction of 99% of the writings of both Greece and Rome and Egypt and Persia to Christcucks and their deliberate sabotage. As to your quit with the D&C, nobody said there aren't White Italians today, there obviously are some, but they are an extreme minority, even many of those who look White are not. We have seen the genetics studies that show even the purest examples of Italians today have a certain proportion of Non-White DNA through their Y-DNA being replaced by the Moors and all of the genetic damage they did to themselves through interbreeding towards the late republican age and through the Empire. Christianity just sped it up significantly, and then destroyed nearly everything they preserved and built. They were already on a decline, because they had miscegenated. We know from the few surviving accounts that there are Romans who knew what their grandparents and ancestors had done and how they had sullied their blood, they correctly identified that it had made them weak. We know from the statues and their recovered pigments and through depictions of their gods that they were Nordic, either Red or Blonde and the elite and Emperors continued to be so until after Commodus, with few exceptions like Hadrian who had Brown Hair and yet was still White. I am sure light brown hair and eyes were in there too, it was just less desirable, than Blonde or Red and Blue. Nobody is trying to D&C, the fact of the fucking matter is that the Nordic Phenotypes and the genetics that cause them have some correlation to being able to create Civilization, as nearly every civilization on earth has some record of their original elite being blonde and blue eyed White skinned people and many peoples who supposedly never encountered Whites/Aryans had WHITE GODS, such as the Amerinds in South/Central America and the Hawaiians. if acknowledging the truth pisses of Mediterraneans today that is their loss not ours, they either have to acknowledge the truth, and some do, or they will oppose us for doing so and we know what will have to be done if they do, I don't want to do it either but they may force our hands.
>>8901 >one down the D&C will you? It's not D&C none of those Greeks in that picture look White at all. They look like they either came from the Palestine, Lebanon, Iran or even Syria. The first Europeans did not look like this at all nor did the original Aryans. The Greeks aged badly and today look nothing White, and this is the same case from Italy as well. How is it that Northern Italians and Spainards look Whiter than Greeks and the other Italians? Literally none of these faggots look like their Aryan ancestors, so why should I consider them Aryan or at best European when 99% look like they were the twink slaves of the upper classes?
>>8821 its not a matter of shilling, its a matter of strategics and international policy. you follow a rule until you're able to change it.
>>8868 Rational Skeptics are afraid of Guenon.
>>8993 Guenon is a race-mixing Muslim freemason. I can hardly understand why anyone sucks off these "Traditionalists" so hard
>>8808 >>8860 >>8862 >Thuleide, twatter, sojack, muh science, muh genes All of you are faggots and are the worst of fascism.
>>8860 >Unless you deny objective reality itself then no. The information is there to be found and You know you're a special one you know that? You just got these retarded dna tests and you're coming to retarded conclusions based off some kiked institutions that DNA tests are an objective reality, totally not a kike larping ad a fascist. Not only that you unironically believe we all come from Africa, when this shit has been debunked and literally had little to no evidence that we all came from Africa. You sound like a shitlib and you're a perfect example that all right wing twatter cucks and 4cucks are all faggots and shouldn't be regarded as fascists. You have no idea what fascism is and truly an useful idiot of the modern world/kikes who is willing to believe anything told to him at face value because it so called supports a right wing cuck perspective. Fuck off back to twatter you giantic faggot.
>>9021 At least he used soyjack correctly
>>9023 He used soyjack just to insult him instead calling him a massive retard for thinking the stupid shit (((academia))) says is an "objective reality" or in words being argumentive and countering his points. Using it just to insult someone without an argument makes you a faggot, but you shouldn't use it at all because it's outdated garbage used by egomaniacs who only prove that their opponent is smarter and much more mature than they are which is something fascism does not need at all.
>>8267 >Here are the photos Seeing some Christians shilling for places in Israel does not surprise me since it's the typical influence of Evangelical doctrines. Dates back to 2011. The pictures of 2019 are much more relevant, assuming perhaps naively that someone would have changed that much (it can happen). 2019 is very fresh, it's literally yesterday. Tongue in cheek humor and pseudo-stances do not reveal much though. Perhaps the man is becoming much more based and redpilled than his girl, for whom he has compassion and loves. It's entirely possible.
>>8993 Why afraid? I'm fairly rational and skeptic and I think he provides good material on certain domains, notably overall culture of religion and doctrines, but is abysmally out of the mark on topics which matter a lot to Whites. His path is not a good one to follow and it's a terrible thing that he managed to have such influence on great people, including Julius Evola.
>>8163 Very good; his summary of the the OLB concerns me though. Based on the details, it is just like the OLB could have be written by an educated esoteric Christian.
>>9024 >He used soyjack just to insult him instead calling him a massive retard See, the purpose of the soyjack was to call him a retard without explicitly having to put it into words. He was being the type of person that was represented by that soyjack, who blindly spouts back what (((academia))) feeds us an objective reality. As I acknowledged in that post, Jewish science does not reflect objective reality and it is politically motivated, yet there are still people, such as right-wing twittertards who think that they have any sort of drive towards "truth" or "objectivity". Everyone seems realize that politicians are slimy kikes who are bought and paid to bolster ZOG, but when it comes to scientists, people don't have the same standard, even though it's been shown that most science is bunk or at the very least twisted.
>>8860 The indigenous Antolians are farmers who come from the levinant is what they're telling us. This means that during the Neolithic Europe it was invaded by swarming farmer Jews. Is this supposed to be something to be proud of? Because Southern Europeans are mostly leviant farmer and they are in no way European.
>>9108 Not only that the ancestor to the Early European farmers were also leviants as well and they've created their DNA results that supposedly means that they are genetically closer to ancient leviants than European hunter gathers. Anatolian farmers are the ashkenazis of Europe who carry European DNA and are only genetically similar to true Euros because their ancient fathers knocked up a leviant due to rapid colonization. This sounds like an excuse to allow ashenkazis stay in Europe or to take pride in being part Jewish or levinant.
>>9108 >>9110 Does it matter? Nordid blood shall spread and erase all ancient traces of unclean genetics. Jews will be rejected and dealt with so that they never remain a threat to anyone, White or not.
Are there any interesting articles or facts about blond heads and people with blue or green eyes?
>>9254 Such as?
Here is a redpill on the meaning of "Tikkun Olam" >Today, tikkun olam is usually translated as "to repair the world," "tikkun" being translated as "repair" or "fix," "olam" being translated as "world." However, tikkun ha-olam is the term used throughout classical Hebrew literature. [...] >In classical Hebrew and Aramaic texts, the range of meanings of the word [i.e. tikkun] include: repair, establish, institute, edit, restore, prepare, legislate, improve, perfect, remedy.Though often denotes "the world," which seems to reflect the universalistic meaning denoted today by tikkun olam, it is clearly not the meaning of "olam" in the "tikkun ha-olam" in most classical Hebrew sources, beginning with Tannaitic literature. For example, after reviewing all Talmudic occurrences of the "tikkun ha-olam," Reform leader and social activist Eugene J. Lipman concluded that "none of the material adduced here could serve to bring me to the conclusion that the Talmudic sages were speaking of all humanity... [the referent here relates only to] the Jewish community >...the term "tikkun ha-olam" was expanded to include various other types of halakhic legislation which establish conditions aimed at supporting and sustaining various types of Jewish communal and individual needs. This observation correlates with Lipman's conclusion that "in the Talmud, Tikkun Olam means 'for the proper order of the Jewish community,'" rather than as contemporary views depict it: "to build a better world." One quote at the end that raised my eyebrows: "According to an astute observer of American Jewry, for American Jews, "politics is our religion; our preferred denomination is liberalism." A slogan of this secularist approach is: tikkun olam" https://sci-hub.tw/https://www.jstor.org/stable/43150878
>>9510 >One quote at the end that raised my eyebrows: "According to an astute observer of American Jewry, for American Jews, "politics is our religion; our preferred denomination is liberalism." A slogan of this secularist approach is: tikkun olam" That reminds me of when I read many rabbis reportedly do not believe in God. I suppose Jews already have the 'religion of blood' part figured out and that is why they oppose Paganism so much and Christianity not so much, they do not want Whites to have the same type of thing.
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>>9514 >That reminds me of when I read many rabbis reportedly do not believe in God. Hell, over half of Jews in America alone apparently don't believe in God and yet still are associated with synagogues or various interpretations of Judaism which make them into "agents of an evolving civilization" or some madness of this type, just look into Reconstructionist Judaism. I have no doubt in my mind that rabbis don't believe in God, their only function is to keep the Jews organized and allow them to subvert and plot in the safety of their synagogues. >I suppose Jews already have the 'religion of blood' part figured out and that is why they oppose Paganism so much and Christianity not so much, they do not want Whites to have the same type of thing. This, and because Judaism is civilization in a sense in their minds. The focus on nature in ecofascism, Romanticism and paganism terrifies them.
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>>9550 I've been pretty impressed with almost all of what I've read from him so far. I discovered him from his article on the alt-right and its association with (((Duginists))). An article like this is desperately needed, because people, especially Americans are honestly clueless when it comes to these terms. Another good example that we're all aware of is the twisting of the term "Fascist" itself. What is a Fascist? Someone who is mean and authoritarian, of course! Even Communists and rampaging niggers are Fascists! This is one problem with the slogan "Beyond Left and Right" that I have. I think Fascism is undeniably right-wing, but we have people who equate "right-wing" with Republicans, and thus reject the label
>>9550 https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2020/09/30/White-nationalism-is-terrorism-addressing-zionist-hypocrisy-and-the-2019-congressional-hearing-on-White-nationalism/ Another one. >>9563 It seems to me that any public figure that calls itself alt-right or associates with the types who do should simply be ignored. It's guaranteed at this point that they are feds or serve some anti-White entity. It's not a coincidence that Richard Spencer is allowed to voice his opnions on Twitter when much more mildly-spoken right-wingers have all been banned from there. Same goes for other types that the American media pays too much attention to, like that retard Alex Jones, who serves no other purpose but to discredit certain anti-government theories in the eyes of normies by making it seem like only paranoid schizos believe in them.
>>9626 There's enough info out there at this point to safely believe that they're controlled opposition. Even besides that there are things that should make everyone raise their eyebrows - like what is the connection between these figureheads and homosexuality? It shouldn't keep popping up time and time again but it does. How does anal sex save the White race?
>>9641 >Even besides that there are things that should make everyone raise their eyebrows - like what is the connection between these figureheads and homosexuality? For me, what would be more eyebrow-raising is that they are all in one way or the other part of the tribe. Alex Jones is married to a Jewess, Richard Spencer is (at least partly) one but is also married with a Jewish woman whom he has a child with making him Jewish as well, Lauren Southern is partly Jewish, Milo Yiannopoulos is partly Jewish, Nick Fuentes may potentially be (part-)Jewish as his surname is supposedly common among Sephardi Jews. But I agree, homosexuality is also a common theme. Even if he is not Jewish, Nick Fuentes has indirectly admitted to being a closeted homosexual, Milo is married to a man, Spencer claims that faggotry is part of European heritage (but not of Jewish heritage of course) and Paul Joseph Watson has proudly admitted to engaging in sodomy.
>>9642 Oh, the Jewishness of that entire "movement" (or should I say astroturf) is so obvious that it's not even worth mentioning. I'll point to the very coiner of the term alt-right and personal friend of Richard Spencer, Jew Paul Gottfried, and you of course name a few of probably many examples. And we can't forget Kike Enoch's (((wife))). The way I see it, as soon as one starts shilling for homosexuality, they're compromised. It's one of those things which brings zero benefit to society, is disgusting, and is a corrupter of children and spreader of disease. There is either someone forcing them to push this and attempt to normalize it among White Nationalists (in order to make inroads in degenerating us and forcing further forms of subversion down our throats in the future like tranny-acceptance), or, more likely, they're simply full of cocklust themselves. >>9644 That stuff about the Kadets was spot on regarding stuff in America today with the elite and corporate of the rioting. Like the article says, the violence will keep growing and growing until it meets significant resistance against it. We're in an earlier stage than what some of the Communists in that article were doing, but it's not far off
https://youtu.be/xsGmgqyzfL8 Phantom India, a 1969 French documentary series on India and modern Hindu practices.
>>9510 >>...the term "tikkun ha-olam" was expanded to include various other types of halakhic legislation which establish conditions aimed at supporting and sustaining various types of Jewish communal and individual needs. This observation correlates with Lipman's conclusion that "in the Talmud, Tikkun Olam means 'for the proper order of the Jewish community,'" rather than as contemporary views depict it: "to build a better world." It's simple. >Build a better world for the proper order of the Jewish community. >Build a Jewish World Order. >>9518 Judaism is such a mess. But in the end I don't care if it's strawberry or lemon flavor, a Jew is a Jew and secular atheist or devout believer, they will always be Jews and use methods which have demonstrated their efficacy at providing them with wealth at the expense of all other people, and ours above all. On the quotations, you can even see how the term atheism is being warped by these rats. They basically claim they're atheists but all they do is continue to speak of God but in different ways. Now it's nature, or now it's a being that doesn't care about your faith but looks into your actions. I don't see any denial of God here. Is this more facade? Are these Jews being honest when writing this or are they truly atheists but come up with proclamations of God being this or that or doing this or that just to appease the stronger believers? It is also nothing new that Jews often borrow ideas from surrounding religions and philosophies to build their own creeds. I do not even think they can generate that much originality in their cultural thoughts. >half of US Jews are atheists That's because Judaism is a malleable intersection of religion, culture and ethnicity made of mixed blood. When God is not believed in any more, then it's the Jewish people that is praised and worshiped, and the dream of a greater Jewish kingdom. And let's not get started on the Hololol which they brainwash Jewish kids with in Israel, turning them even more hysterical, lunatic and paranoid than they already were. >>I suppose Jews already have the 'religion of blood' part figured out and that is why they oppose Paganism so much and Christianity not so much, they do not want Whites to have the same type of thing. >This, and because Judaism is civilization in a sense in their minds. The focus on nature in ecofascism, Romanticism and paganism terrifies them. From the very beginning they always tried to deprive their enemies of what they kept for themselves, starting with racism and a sense of protected community, starting with Christianity. All is done so that they dilute others while at the same time reinforcing their own people. >>9563 Definitions of old terms keep changing. A Republican in Roman days would have been a radically different thing than today. A Republican in post-Terror France would have been a radically different than today too. >>9563 Considering the categories included, this graphic is certainly not limited to the US. >1970- The peasantry does not and has never ruled anything. It never had power. What we have today is an oligarchy of parasitic plutocrats, elevated scamming degenerate bourgeois and Jews. >anti-Christian Was a very hardcore right-wing thing in the distant past, and was too in the Third Reich. >right-wing Maybe it should read pseudo right-wing?
>>9563 >Scientific racism and colonialism, left-wing Um. what does he mean by scientific racism on the left wing? The left wing didn't really like racism in science or just used it to justify their rule. Also colonialism was supported by both the right wing and left, but they had a different viewpoint on how they would establish. The left more-so wanted to localize and assimilated those they ruled over, while the right might of wanted to use colonies as more of a cultural, religious, military, and/or racial establishment. >Right-wing Feudalism Feudalism is not really a thing, but yes the right-wing did support the older forms of monarchism and government in the medieval era. One of the many misconceptions I see coming from the right wing or morons like Keith Woods is that the Left Wing liberals were all anti family, while the communists weren't. The liberals before the 20th century could not be anti family and weren't really against until around the 21st century. Apparently even liberals were smart enough to realize that destroying the traditions and heritage within a country would lead to declines and an end to their colonial conquests and the destruction of a nation itself.
>>9934 >One of the many misconceptions I see coming from the right wing or morons like Keith Woods is that the Left Wing liberals were all anti family, while the communists weren't. The liberals before the 20th century could not be anti family and weren't really against until around the 21st century. Apparently even liberals were smart enough to realize that destroying the traditions and heritage within a country would lead to declines and an end to their colonial conquests and the destruction of a nation itself. I think both the communists and liberals were both against the family system.
>>9934 What was considered more "left" back then in opposition to monarchs and feudalism was composed of all sorts of deists and those who appealed to "truth", "reason" and "natural laws" against the superstition of the church, so it wouldn't be surprising if we had some people who realized that non-Whites were subhumans and different from Whites. Just speculation though, I know for a fact that even the most radical people of that age were hardly anything like globohomo madmen of today.
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>>9935 >I think both the communists and liberals were both against the family system. The communists were more so against the family unit, because they've seen it as a capitalist invention or something that endorses capitalism, because of elitism or some shit. If liberals were against it as a whole then the founding fathers would of tried to abolish it, but they had no reasons to rid of it. The same was also with the British Empire, were the liberals had desired to give more economic freedom to the working class and family households. I don't think the desire to abolish the family was something liberals truly wanted until the mid or late 20th century, although I could be wrong. >What was considered more "left" back then in opposition to monarchs and feudalism was composed of all sorts of deists and those who appealed to "truth", "reason" and "natural laws" against the superstition of the church, so it wouldn't be surprising if we had some people who realized that non-Whites were subhumans and different from Whites. In a way this does make sense, when you look at the United States, Prussia, and the British Empire.
https://archive.is/FYaJ9 https://archive.is/8LZx3 I found this info. It seems that the kikes aren't afraid of revealing the possibility that Whites formulated their culture. Although it doesn't say anything about us being the true jews or any shit like that, or that Abraham was a White man.
>>9945 Interesting. Like you said, it's important to note that Abraham wasn't a native to the Levant though. Yahweh told him to become the first wandering Jew in Genesis when he said "Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you." It seems like to me that the Jews in time ethnically cleansed the "Promised Land", likely of Whites.
>>9962 >It seems like to me that the Jews in time ethnically cleansed the "Promised Land", likely of Whites. I doubt it was filled with mostly Whites, but I had a theory that some of the canaanites were huWhite or half-huWhite, considering that the Israelis viewed them to be racially different, despite modern academia claiming that they were the same or about the same as the Israelis.
>>9995 That's a good point. Like with India that we so like to talk about on here, it's important to remember that we're dealing with small ruling minorities most of the time as far as I can tell.
I found this to be interesting, it talks about how the divine hierarchy among the gods. https://hellenicfaith.com/divine-hierarchy/
>>10001 Hmm I will really need to dig into this at some point. I need to hurry up and take the (Neo)-Platonism pill it increasingly seems like because it is impossible to understand the intellectual side of Greek and Roman paganism without knowing about it in depth. Reading this shit about Helios I was about to cast it aside as just made up bullshit but apparently Julian really does say this stuff in his "Hymn to King Helios". I thought the description was interesting on Wikisource: > The old names, endeared by the associations of literature, could be retained without endangering the supremacy of Helios. Julian identifies Zeus, Helios, Hades, Oceanus and the Egyptian Serapis. But the omnipotent Zeus of Greek mythology is now a creative force which works with Helios and has no separate existence. Tradition had made Athene the child of Zeus, but Julian regards her as the manifestation of the intelligent forethought of Helios. Dionysus is the vehicle of his fairest thoughts, and Aphrodite a principle that emanates from him. He contrives that all the more important gods of Greece, Egypt and Persia shall play their parts as manifestations of Helios. The lesser gods are mediating demons as well as forces. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Hymn_to_King_Helios
>>10001 thats the kind of dope shit we need in the aryan religion thread, post dat shit mah cracka
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>>9945 stop posting pics like this you freak.
>>10018 >thinking that’s pornographic Fuck off, Muhammad
>>10019 >sexy anime with Huge Nipple Titties >not pornographic Degeneracy does not take hold without the process of Degeneration.
>>10021 >muuuuhhh animmeeeeeeee How many threads will shit up?
>>10023 don't know what you're talking about. dont play fucking stupid with me either. i'm not new to this. i sourced the artist. its porn. (or 'softcore erotica' or whatever gets your freak jargon checked off)
>>10025 It’s not even worth crying about. It’s just some reaction image, who cares about the source, people post fucked up and weird shit as reaction images all the time.
>>10025 >complaining about huge tits Who cares at least it's not lolipedo
>>10018 No, get over it you fucking faggot.
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>>10037 You know, I discounted this as bullshit for a while, but after seeing the anti-anime posts here from that one guy, there almost has to be something to this theory. I can completely understand how one view otaku culture as degenerate, but I will never understand throwing a tantrum over a reaction pic
>>10045 No, it's because you're a fucking spergy ass faggot who need to fuck off back to /pol/. The amount ass hurt coming from you is the equivalent to what hrt nigger receives when he is told he's a guy and not woman.
>>10047 What did the deleted post say?
>>10070 Something about trannies and HRT
>>10070 He claimed that anime creates trannies
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>>10121 >One thing is overwhelmingly clear: Folkish people do not actually believe in the Gods. They hold a “metagenetic” or “racialist” view of the divine which attempts to posit that the divine limit Their interactions with “foreigners” outside of “the race.” Top kek from the first paragraph we're hit with a load of bullshit. This "metagenetic" view is nowhere near universal in pagan circles. For example I don't really hear it here, and I have seen Varg's weak paganism criticized repeatedly. >Gods-awful Cringe. >the Folkish and their rhetoric are visibly ignorant and foul. These blatant fascists are inherently violent because of how their canards incites the dehumanization and harassment of minorities by unnecessarily forcing them to validate themselves both as practitioners and as people, and inherently impious because of their flagrant atheism and hubris which objectifies the Gods and ancestors as mere trinkets who only serve to propound the short-sighted pomposity they have about their “race.” This only produces a toxic environment where the both the pious and the marginalized are left unwelcome, and as such, their hatespeech is undeserving of any audience. Their platforms in Pagan circles should be torn down, and any individuals who are espousing their abhorrent rhetoric should be barred from any and all participation in any legitimate polytheistic and/or Pagan community. Their points are not to be debated: they are to be ridiculed. Notice how leftists never have any arguments. They merely bring up "dehumanization" or "muh poor brown people" and then declare that we deserve no audience whatsoever. Do they not realize that by declaring that these ancient traditions are just open for anyone to come in and try to take part in, that they are just unreflectively vomiting up modern viewpoints, destroying anything unique about said traditions and pretending that pagans were all cosmopolitan "tolerant" people?
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>>10122 >Plus, who has ever heard of a religion that talks about the creation of all humanity, the world and all of existence that only one ethnic group can practice? Lads...should we tell him?
>>10122 These people are abrahamists who only pretend to be pagan because they either have an agenda to create political agendas about European spiritualities, so they can shill muh immigration or, because muh abraham hates atheism, science and muh homosexuality. They treat paganism like catholicism or an abrahamic religion. Leftists are the most pathetic beings to exist. If you go onto his Twitter you will see the cancer that his Twitter page with the #blm and he/him crap. Also read this because he has a nice funny argument in the comments with (((atheist pagans))). https://hellenicfaith.com/2018/03/04/paganism-is-not-nature-centric/
>>10130 Atheist pagans are cringe, but the author ironically comes off as the bigger faggot in this exchange due to his remarks about "Protestant Romanticist understandings" and "pantheistic atheism". I would mention to people like him that Romanticism spurred new interest in pagan religions, folk customs and ethnic and cultural origins, but his paganism is of course veiled leftism, it seems.
>>10130 I love how he thinks that somehow if the Gods are part of nature and thus of the material, they are somehow not separate from a person and because, in the Dharmic conception, they don't exist outside of the material you somehow can't commune with them. I don't know if he is insane or just stuck in Abrahamic thought. Regardless as I understand it, even in Vedic thought, the Immaterial being was the supreme force , the first cause, etc., while our pantheons were Material which would explain why they could affect the material while the supreme force was more akin to the laws of the universe outside of the material but part of it in it's own way.
https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2020/10/06/the-antiquity-of-racial-classification-and-White-identity/ https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2020/10/03/blond-haired-supermen-the-origin-of-blondism-and-the-pigmentation-of-the-proto-indo-europeans/ Two more interesting articles. The first one is apparently an excerpt from an older article of his, but since I learned a few things from it regarding race in antiquity, I definitely thing other /fascist/s could benefit.
>>10130 Athetism and paganism do not go together at all. Left wingers are such cucks and idiots when it comes to religion, It's nothing more , but revisionism to claim that non-abrahamists didn't really believe in Gods. Atheo-pagans come from (((Academia))) , who seek to use religions like Hellenic, Norse Celtic, etc as a way to shill their liberal cuckoldry and scientific materialism. >>10247 he listens to modern scientists, no thanks.
>>10250 >It's nothing more , but revisionism to claim that non-abrahamists didn't really believe in Gods I think I've seen Varg claim this before. Or at least the claim was something to the effect that the view of the gods that we think of them having today was "imposed" by Christians / Abrahamists. That's obviously retarded, because we know that it's a strawman to think that pagans had one uniform view of the gods. This is clear enough from reading stuff like Cicero's book on the nature of the gods. They weren't atheists, obviously, but they had diverse interpretations of their exact nature
>>10250 >Athetism and paganism do not go together at all. Left wingers are such cucks and idiots when it comes to religion This isn't just an atheist leftist issue, but pretty much every religion of the modern era or even during antiquity were pretty cucked. Universalism, atheism, materialism, race denial have a presence in almost every major religion to exist and this one of the reasons why and both lefists and right cucks both deny and care less about the importance of kin.
>>10258 For race-denial in particular, I always wonder why that is. It can't be as simple as it just being the result of the Jews (not to discount their role in this process). Is it really just because of slave morality and a hatred of life and nature? That's the only thing that makes sense to me, why else would they reject race, always side with the weak and downtrodden, and put the goal of life as getting into some perfect afterlife with no suffering?
>>10259 > Is it really just because of slave morality and a hatred of life and nature? I think this as well. Although I'm lack information about the history of religions like the abrahamics and non-abrahamics, so my guess is that they deny race is so they can establish a universal rule.
>>10260 >my guess is that they deny race is so they can establish a universal rule. This wouldn't surprise me. Interestingly the most harmful ones are the ones that seem to have spread the most, and are the ones that are most dedicated to spreading their teachings. On one hand it could just be for sheer power (definitely an aspect, I think), but there are also probably more sinister motives along with the psychological basis that we already mentioned that makes slave morality attractive to some. A good contrast is with Shinto. It is very this-worldly and particularistic to Japan. Instead of sin and evil, they speak about impurity and a rupture with natural harmony. It is a healthy natural expression of the Japanese people.
>>10261 >On one hand it could be just for sheer power, but there are also probably more sinister motives along with the psychological basis that we already mentioned that makes slave morality attractive to some. Basically Christianity and Islam in a nutshell. It seems to me that religions such as these two are an example of elites shilling it and allowing them to takeover cities, kingdoms, and empires is so they can establish a new rule. There are theroies that Jesus and Muhammad aren't real figures, but rather fake prophets who were created to establish a new form of submissive control over people universally. The idea of that kin is as important as spirituality, would bring resistance agaisnt foreign rule, thus why they deny race.
>>10264 In a way they're all precursors to globohomo in how they operate. In a strong kin-based society you wouldn't sell out your kin to the state if they did some sort of bad goy behavior. You protected your own, and in turn they protected you. Blood and mutual interests prevailed. Abrahamism breaks this and makes the individual the sole moral agent. His salvation or damnation is totally up to him, and this immediately disembeds him from the community, and the person (if they truly believe it) is more likely to go against the community if he believes they are doing something "immoral". The apex of this is today where you sell out your family to the state for being bad goyim and where the masses think that they know what is good and bad, and what is in their interests.
A good video by Apollonian Germ on Jorjani and some more alt-kike connections. I’ve been seeing this Jorjani character pop up more recently for some reason: https://youtu.be/FrCbDFZTolg
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>>10339 Cohencidentally, Keith Woods just talked with him too.
>>10339 >>10340 I'm just hearing about this guy, but it's no surprise the alt-kike or should I say communists would support this shit. Keith Woods acts like a moralist, who thinks that fascism is supposed to be anti-imperialism as a whole and 24/7 everyday crying about Palestinians getting their shit taken. He calls others racists liberal. but then has connections and cooperates with literal kikes who are literal degenerates. A large number of E-celeb White nationalists are not truly White nationalists.
>>10339 Is there any confirmation that he has a black husband? Or if he was ever gay at all?
>>10356 Unfortunately much of the eceleb / Cuckchan-affiliated crowd that were big supporters of the alt-kike in 2015-17 is founded on the idea of “WN 2.0” versus “WN 1.0” – completely throwing the ideas and struggles of post-war White Nationalists completely under the bus for pepe the frog and ecelebs that don’t do anything tangible for Whites and are caught up in all sorts of issues not direclty relevant to White interests (Palestine is a good example. I’m anti-Zionist but have no special love for Palestinians, unlike Keith Woods). When one first gets into White Nationalism it’s easy to brush off the guys of yesteryear, but after really looking into a lot of the guys that came before us like William Pierce, David Lane, Robert Jay Mathews, George Lincoln Rockwell and James H. Madole, they were leagues better than any major figure that we see today, the first three in particular. >>10358 I’ve heard the rumor but I can’t find any proof. I will note though that Jorjani has a homosexual physiognomy just like Richard Spencer and people like confirmed fag Peter Buttigieg. Pics for comparison. If you look like that you’re probably gay Another article I found: >I'm a leftist, not a Nazi, says N.J. professor at center of Hitler video controversy >The views I generally hold, my social and political views, actually, I would say, align a lot more with the left, than they do with the right. I’m certainly not a conservative,” Jorjani told NJ Advance Media. >Further, “I’m not a racist,” he said, and noted that he supports gay and women’s rights, and multiculturalism. He couldn’t identify a religion or school of political thought with which he is entirely aligned https://www.nj.com/essex/2017/09/who_is_new_jerseys_alt-right_professor.html
https://youtube.com/watch?v=mBhbJgD_RD4 https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wt-mPJEkDq4 https://youtube.com/watch?v=TW2qhwZewSw This is a great channel that has been gaining traction lately. I recommend his videos on the Japanese, Mongols and Aztecs. >>10339 I had heard of this guy before years ago but I thought he was some sort of neo-Zoroastrian, not some weird globalist faggot.
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>>10368 >I had heard of this guy before years ago but I thought he was some sort of neo-Zoroastrian, not some weird globalist faggot. He's actually both, apparently. Watching some of the interviews that Apollonian German included in his video, it's clear though that Jorjani sees this as totally reconcilable with pozz though - just see how he justified his love for the Jews partially through an appeal to Cyrus of Persia, who ended the Babylonian captivity and is the only goy called by the Jews a "messiah".
These articles by Dr. Thomas Dalton discuss Schopenhauer and Judeo-Christian life-denial. It begins with an account of Schopenhauer’s views on nature, eternal struggle and pessimism, and his views on Judaism and Jews as a horrible, soulless people infesting Europe with their Old Testament spirit. The second part dwells on Christianity for a bit and has an interesting bit where Dalton speculates that Paul’s advocacy against marriage and sex, and the talk about tearing apart families in the NT were part of a Jewish ethnic strategy. https://nationalvanguard.org/2020/10/schopenhauer-and-judeo-christian-life-denial-part-1/ https://nationalvanguard.org/2020/10/schopenhauer-and-judeo-christian-life-denial-part-2/
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>>9675 What position is the site supposed to be from?
>>10037 different anon here, I have an autistic reason being annoyed by anime posters, we are Europeans and their descendants (for the most part) discussing how to save our nations, our people, and our culture and yet they post with something that is not European and is foreign, the way I see it this is counter productive and in my opinion gets in the way of reviving European culture
>>10073 It's more like trannies project themselves onto anime
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>>10885 >It's more like trannies project themselves onto anime That's exactly what it is. It's a huge leap from seeing some pic of an anime girl and thinking she looks cute or attractive, to jumping to "I want to be this character!" If you read the delusions that trannies put out sometimes, they have this same creepy attitude even towards real women. While a normal man will see a cute girl on the street and think "Oh wow, she's cute / hot", the tranny fetishist will go "wow I wanna wear her clothes and be her"
>>10885 Trannies project themselves on everything and almost anything. I've seen tranny ancaps, liberals, reactionaries, nazbols and even some of them tried to become fascists (Homo fascism). Trannies want to be a part of every community or group that exists.
>>10895 Wow just like real women but even worse
Is there any truth about Ancient Rome? Because it seems to me that this article implies that Rome was anti-White. >In Ancient Rome, blond hair was initially considered a symbol of prostitution, and these women had to discolor their blond hair or wear blond wigs. >After the slaves were bought from Scandinavia and Germany, the noblewomen began to wear more wigs made of their hair, and the negative stigma of blonde hair diminished in strength. >The early Romans preferred dark hair, which is why blond hair was the trademark of prostitution, more or less recognized. https://wotansvolk.com/2019/11/09/hair-color-in-ancient-rome/
>>10916 The biggest thing that stuck out to me is that there are absolutely no sources whatsoever.
>>10921 That what I was concerned about as well, but is there any viewpoint the Romans had about blond and red-hair rr any of the indo-Europeans and what they had seen it as like if it was divine or Masculine or whatever?
>>10916 This is a bold faced lie. Rome began Aryan, with most people blonde or redheaded. Eventually they took non-Aryan slaves. Overtime, mixing occurred. Blonds then became highly desirable as slaves, and the main reason for Roman expansion into Germania was to acquire more blond slaves... there was literally no other reason besides strategic defense. https://powping.com/c/8f4fabdf775ef9b7f8f6ba4d6e4cad686e8699857ae4765c00db87679490998b
>>10935 I'm pretty sure the main reason the Romans expanded into Germania was to obtain more land to establish more settlements and stop the German raiders from raiding them.
>>10936 >more land More cold forests and swamps? The Roman Empire was based on slavery, acquiring slaves was always a primary reason for expansion.
>>10938 But they were referring to the inner parts of Germania, not the Rhineland or the lands that bordered closer to Gaul. I doubt the Romans wanted Germanic slaves for DNA or anything like that considering they most often used slaves to build their architectures, build their cities, and farm their shitty lands.
>>10922 In all of the sources that I've consulted or seen that mention the hair-color of emperors, it was always stated rather matter-of-factly. Some of the partial quotes in the image above are a good illustration of this.
>>8339 I heard that his father was also an Evangelical Christian living in Israel.
>>11017 from where?
>>11026 >>11017 I've heard that his father was a pastor or a priest, but I have not heard the thing about living in Israel. Though, with some of the evidence that we have seen, there is some sort of Israel connection, otherwise why would there be pics from Kikebook of some of his associates saying "Shalom" to each other?
>>11017 Okay, now you are just making shit up. He has said in a video before that he was raised a Catholic.
>>11049 Can you bring examples of this? >>11054 That's what he says, but it doesn't mean it's true, he would probably lie about his wife not being a degenerate Jew as well if you brought it up. I'm only mentioning rumors that are said across other boards. STJ is suspicious, he said in a interview with Millennial Woes that he was a Marxist and said that he was neither left nor right, but just pro-British.
>>11090 >Can you bring examples of this? Most of what is claimed there comes from the album that has already been discussed ITT: https://ibb.co/album/gmCM6z We see in the very first pics of talk of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem from a relative of StJ’s wife (maiden name Lundgren). I attached the pic where people are saying “shalom” (see the last name again!) Further down in the album we see someone from his wife’s family clearly dressed like a priest. Just scroll and look. I’m interested in what the Swedish says. I might have to find this out tomorrow
>>11091 He deleted all of the videos. If he's innocent of not being Jew and is truly a pure pagan European then maybe he shouldn't delete that brings suspicion of him. STJ and the other genetic obsessed right wingers have connections with Jews and try to get us to listen to any of the bullshit that comes from Academia's mouth. What does he accomplish by listening to the academia telling us we all were from Africa?
>>11135 What videos in particular did he delete?
>>11153 The ones shown in the link you posted, he also had several videos of him in Expos but they're all gone now.
>>11154 Oh, okay, I know what you're talking about now. Anyway, I'm gonna start google translating these posts now.
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The nigger ones were the most interesting to translate. Overall it's not worth doing all of them. The pics themselves are more telling than anything. Apparently she considers this nigger a "best friend", the same one who is holding up this sign saying "I love Gerda". The Israel stuff wasn't too interesting either, but it's worth noting that the father who seems to be a priest expected that girl (relative of STJ's wife) to "bow at the Church of the Nativity" and that one of the commenters had also been Israel. Christcucks, racemixers, niggerlovers. How trad.
>>11090 Pictures, messages and videos are between 5 to 9 years old. Givim the doubtoken.
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>>11256 >Miles Mathis Go away, schizo
>>11274 >Muh schizio Fags like you only know buzzwords, but I only link it to bring context of how Jewish the CIA is and how they're responsible for a lot of commie dicatorships.
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>>11274 >oy gevalt, the goyim know that Castro is one of us !!1!!! >b-but i can't shut it down !!!11! >b-better to call goyim a schizo, i'm sure it will help me to win the debate, hehehe...OH WAIT Just like a clockwork :)
>>11294 >>11284 Looks like the news thread is bringing in you 4cuck faggots
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>>11297 >oy vey, my fellow neo-nazi antisemitic White supremacists !!! >i'm one of you and totally organic user !!11!! >l-look how i trash these pathetic go....i mean outsiders, these fucking 4cucks, who ruin this stormfa.... i mean this wonderful board !!!1! >t-trust me !!!1!! Sure you are, but only in your mind of course :)
>>11297 >Muh 4cuckz I'm not from cuckchan you dumb nigger, you awfully offended that I posted Miles Mathis. What's the reason, hopefully it's not because you unironically like this queer.
Can anyone refute and debunk this? https://archive.is/XBJKr
>>11351 Nothing to refute. I could probably go through this line-by-line and add a few comments and counterpoints here and there, but honestly anybody who adopts a thinker's thoughts wholesale and uncritically is an NPC. There are more valuable insights in Nietzsche than not. Leftists and Fascists alike have drawn inspiration from him. Same with Ted Kaczynski. He's clearly anti-statist but people all over the far-right sphere of the Internet praise him and talk about him, and even adopt some of his ideas, even if they don't become anarchists themselves.
>>11351 Better question has anyone actually read his book or know his personal life. I've seen leftists Nietzscheans claim that he loved Jews and was very fond of them and fascist and right-wingers claim that he was a racist and was against them.
Nietzsche both criticizes and lavishes praise on Jews. For instance his praise of the Old Testament, then his criticism of the "priestly type" as exemplified by the Jews. His praise and criticism make sense in the specific context of each in his writings, but are on a whole ambiguous. He also points to the Jews for the origin of slave morality. Nietzsche did not look down on anti-Semitism out of any particular love of the Jews or humanitarianism. He disliked it because it was an expression of ressentiment in his mind. In many places, Nietzsche disparages the Jews. It's not black and White.
>>11351 Which part? because if you're talking about the 5 point list and their obviously spurious claims that Hitler never read Nietzche, thats not as difficult as Hitler obviously did.
https://archive.is/LRe05 Library of hate facts.
>>11351 Nietzsche being against antisemitism is like a boomer being against racism; if you have enjoyed the comfort of not interacting with the worst parts of a foreign race, you will not come to notice the patterns that people today are able to notice. If he had lived to see the Russian revolution, the October Revolution and the Weimar Republic, he would have had a different mindset. It's not like Hitler or any other anti-Jewish figure were born antisemitic, you become that through the attainment of knowledge.
>>11355 He courted a jew for many years
>>11674 Nice, I have a lot of reading to do now
“A distinctive feature of the Reformation, particularly associated with the leading reformers Huldrych Zwingli and John Calvin, is the "de-sacralization" of nature. The distinction between the sacred and the secular is widely thought to have contributed to the rise of the natural sciences, which is particularly (but by no means exclusively) associated with Protestantism. The declaration that the natural world was not in any way sacred opened the way to its scientific investigation. There could be no religious obstacles to the analysis of the world. The world increasingly became seen as a machine or instrument—of divine origins, of course, but increasingly distant from God. The material world might have been created by God; it could not, however, convey the divine presence. God's presence was no longer channeled directly into the world through natural means; God had to be known indirectly.” “As Eamon Duffy points out in The Stripping of the Altars (1992), [...] in popular Catholicism sacred and secular times, events, and places were so closely associated that they were of- ten indistinguishable. The rhythms of the year were primarily determined by the feast days of the church and the necessities of agriculture. The individual had a strong sense of place within a cosmos that radiated the glory of God and displayed a divine structure. The sacred was present within the world's events, rhythms, and patterns. One expected to encounter and experience the divine in everyday life.” “Protestantism was the means by which a so- ciety that originally possessed a strong sense of the sacred became "de-sacralized" or "disenchanted," eventually leading to a culture which, to all intents and purposes, had no sense of God's presence in its midst. The inevitable result of this was secularization—the final elimination of God from the world. As Francis Fukuyama points out in his End of History and the Last Man (1992), "the generally accepted agent for this secularization in the West was Protestantism." “The absence of any expectation of encountering the divine directly through nature or in personal experi- ence inevitably encourages belief in a godless world—a world that lives etsi Deus non claretur, "as if God did not exist." The charge against Protestantism is that it has brought about precisely such an erosion of any sense of direct encounter with the divine. Protestantism can respond, with excellent grounds for doing so, that the expectation of an encounter with the divine can lead to paganism, idolatry, or the vague- ness of a nature religion. Far better to limit such knowledge of God to what can be known reliably about God through reading or studying the Bible.” Is this why Evangelicals Christians seem so soulless?
>>8163 https://yewtu.be/watch?v=XujB_NhKTy4 Our Subverted History, Part 5.2 - The Oera Linda Book Seems like Asha went all out this time with mentioning the JQ.
>>8428 the pyrokinesis in the video is probably fake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA2NsPXo-Wg
https://youtube.com/watch?v=bhosd0tCcGc The Dutch Occupation and The Reality of Politics
I found a site that has evidence that the NS party possibly escaped to Antarctica ane established a base their with the UFOs they've built that has been said to go at high speeds. https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/antarctica/antartica22.htm
Also does any anons here know anything about the rumors of the government shooting you on sight if you dare enter certain places on Antarctica?
>>13139 I've seen some of this information, but this looks like a very comprehensive article on the subject, so I will definitely have to give it a read. Based on what I know, there is a decent chance that Hitler did survive the war, and that there is also a good chance that there was some sort of base in Antarctica. Now whether Hitler went to Antarctica or somewhere in South America, I have no clue. Unless Hollow Earth is true I doubt he would have stayed in Antarctica long. The UFO stuff is interesting as well. I've heard a lot about UFOs even during the war like the Foo fighters that were possibly some form of German unmanned aircraft. It's also of course worth noting two things - as far as I understand UFO sightings really took off in the years immediately following WWII, and for a time the main type of alien described was not greys, but Nordics. >>13140 It's not illegal to go to Antarctica. There are some tourist ships that take you there but they only take you to tourist places and don't let you wander around much from what I've heard. There are government treaties that have created restricted areas apparently, but I couldn't tell you how big they are. Honestly they hardly have to make it illegal, since it's beyond the capabilities of 99% of people to go and visit Antarctica. Whether it's an ice wall, a Nazi base or the entrance to Agartha, who knows.
There also this article I found that claims the CIA even knows about the UFOs. There are government treaties that have created restricted areas apparently, >>13144 >There are government treaties that have created restricted areas apparently, Well I only heard rumors that there are certain areas that would warrant you a bullet to the head if you trespass. What I also find funny that liberals are also, so willing to suck the government's dick to deny this, but I could believe considering the US and libshit countries are so willing to keep secrets of the world.
>>13178 >Well I only heard rumors that there are certain areas that would warrant you a bullet to the head if you trespass. That could very well be true - I'm not sure what happens if someone actually tries to enter into one of those restricted areas.
>>13139 >>13180 Nordic aliens confirmed? Nordics were the true AYYs lmao? What still confuses me is that if it were true that the National Socialist did indeed establish New Swabia and supposedly had advanced tech within the supposed Hollow Earth, then the question still needs to arrive of why the NS never came back to rule the Earth and did they indeed survive. This is what makes me skeptical of the story.
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>>13182 >Nordic aliens confirmed? Nordics were the true AYYs lmao? Yes, Nordics exist. Now whether they are aliens in the usual sense or from higher dimensions is a real question, but there from outside this world either way. Regarding grey aliens, I have heard a variety of theories, either that they are disinfo, or another type of alien different from Nordics. Interestingly from what I've seen the Nordics are often described behaving extremely compassionately or serenely. Here is an interview of a woman in the 1950s talking about golden-haired benevolent UFOs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW2RMWyRnr4 Another interview from two years before the first one from Brazil with an almost identical description (linked where it begins): https://youtu.be/SLR7M0uvw_o?t=57
>>13182 >>13184 I think Himmler believed the Nordic race appeared by traveling from some other world to ours and landing on the north pole.
>>13185 I haven't read Serrano in depth, but I believe that he had very similar theories regarding the North Pole and Hyperborea.
>>13180 What I found interesting is that there is a pdf, that supposed "debunks" the ufo and secret base, despite the CIA documents saying otherwise. https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/attach/49/49783_.pdf
>>13188 (heil’d) I’ve seen that PDF before and personally never found it that satisfying in my eyes. If anything it made me aware that there was perhaps more to the theory than I had even thought. What CIA documents are you talking about? I’ve seen the Argentina ones and the one with Colombia, but I can’t recall anything about Antarctica
>>13191 Are you reading me, correctly? The pdf I posted supposedly debunks the secret base and UFOs, while the articles about Hitler and the German escape are posted by 8ffc3c. My wikileaks pdf denies that the NS escaped to Antarctica.
>>13186 ive tried to read nos a few times, and in the beginning i think serrano is saying that aryans originally lived a purely spiritual existence, found out about this place and was horrified by it, entered this land to try and fix it but then got stuck and now we cant even remember that we arent supposed to be here. this makes me think because every religion is about escaping to a spiritual world
>>13194 He's saying that the PDF did a shit job in his eyes of debunking anything.
>>13196 That is the gist of what I read as well. It has a very Gnostic flavor to it. I usually have bit of a distaste for that type of stuff, honestly. It would be one thing if we could gain insight into some sort of higher reality that we have lost contact with, but in absence of any sort of evidence of that, I usually believe that life-denying religions such as that are harmful to us as a people.
>>13200 How exactly? Not doubting him or calling dumb, but it does seem to hold some truths. It does seem pretty vague, especially considering it doesn't make sense for the USA to go to Antarctica with such a large fleet for training and the fact that there were German submarines located in Antarctica.
>>13202 Part of it the authors say themselves in the methodology part, you're not going to find scientific proof of any of this shit if it's all covered up and classified up the ass. Most of what they do in the paper is just go over what newspapers said about the events at the time, or how the public objectives for a given expedition or operation were XYZ. I'm obviously not saying that therefore there was totally a German base in Antarctica or anything though. I have a lot of doubts about these fantastical claims myself as well. There's certainly something weird with Antarctica, but I couldn't tell you what. What I was saying is that the paper introduced me to a lot of aspects I was unfamiliar with before. I'll have to read what the people here have posted on the matter. What is more likely to me is that Hitler survived and ended up in South America.
A very Whitepilling video by Pierce: https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ds1FDYZ8c5Z4/
Don't know if repost, old report about German National Socialist economic miracle. "How Hitler Tackled Unemployment And Revived Germany’s Economy" https://archive.is/I1DaB
>>10001 How legit is Julian Hellenicism? I always saw it as nothing but a political and religious counter to Christianity.
>>13531 Except that guy is not the creator nor a priest of Julian Hellenicism, the question anon asked is more so related to how and why Julian created his religion and what was it legit to do so and not just stop it from gaining leverage. This guy is a faggot who has no understanding of the paganism.
>>13515 I don't think what he believed is as big of a break from the past as many people think - especially among educated men like himself. A lot of it is just Neoplatonic philosophy. From reading 'Against the Galileans' it seems like he believed in a hierarchy of divinities, the highest of which delegated authority to lesser gods over the various nations and regions of the Earth, and colored the characters of those nations according to the god or goddess who oversaw it. Emperor Julian was also a friend of Sallust, who wrote a work on the gods that deals with similar themes that seem different than what one would expect: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Sallust_On_the_Gods_and_the_World/Sallust_on_the_Gods_and_the_World https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/neoplatonism/
>>8016 >Logos >Through most schools of Greek philosophy, this term was used to designate a rational, intelligent and thus vivifying principle of the universe. This principle was deduced from an understanding of the universe as a living reality and by comparing it to a living creature. Ancient people did not have the dynamic concept of “function,” therefore, every phenomenon had to have an underlying factor, agent, or principle responsible for its occurrence. i would have to take this at face value for the moment, it would probably take years of reading to be able to dispute or confirm this claim but if it is correct, it stands as one of the most suppressed truths of all existence >The Greek, metaphysical concept of the Logos is in sharp contrast to the concept of a personal God described in anthropomorphic terms typical of Hebrew thought. further descriptions on the page show how philo ran from the really conceptual and mind related idea of the logos then the text drags a bit until >k. Intermediary Power >The fundamental doctrine propounded by Philo is that of Logos as an intermediary power, a messenger and mediator between God and the world. >>And the father who created the universe has given to his archangel and most ancient Logos a pre-eminent gift, to stand on the confines of both, and separate that which had been created from the Creator. And this same Logos is continually a suppliant to the immortal God on behalf of the mortal race, which is exposed to affliction and misery; and is also the ambassador, sent by the Ruler of all, to the subject race. And the Logos rejoices…. saying “And I stood in the midst, between the Lord and you” (Num. 16:48); neither being uncreated as God, nor yet created as you, but being in the midst between these two extremities, like a hostage, as it were, to both parties (Her. 205-206). >When speaking of the high priest, Philo describes the Logos as God’s son, a perfect being procuring forgiveness of sins and blessings: “For it was indispensable that the man who was consecrated to the Father of the world [the high priest] should have as a paraclete, his son, the being most perfect in all virtue, to procure forgiveness of sins, and a supply of unlimited blessings” (Mos. 2.134). Philo transforms the Stoic impersonal and immanent Logos into a being who was neither eternal like God nor created like creatures, but begotten from eternity. i'm certainly skipping on philo's entire logic here because of a lack of time which unfortunately, or perhaps logically, still brings me, there, to a complete and utter state of bafflement as to how he could have jumped the metaphysical shark in such a way but i can see why, with the logos holding so many things together and being essential to the existence of all other subsequent forms, then something similar had to be crafted in the shape of a man-like being so hold together god and mankind with the clear advantage that whatever church held control of this mediator could literally lay claim on the faith of all people who could not, on their own, not anymore at least, be in communion with the creative force, with the all father this could so easily be exploited, it's a concentration of religious legitimacy and power away from any human it's taking on the nature of a theological sovietism if handled with wrong or ill intent >This being is a mediator giving hope to men and who “was sent down to earth.” God, according to Philo, sends “the stream of his own wisdom” to men “and causes the changed soul to drink of unchangeable health; for the abrupt rock is the wisdom of God, which being both sublime and the first of things he quarried out of his own powers.” it really ties into this substantial need for messianic central figures but it's impossible to deny the importance of such figures throughout history man has an habit for looking for a superior being made flesh, although older pagan systems didn't seem to have such a craving for putting all powers and wisdom into a single being the greatest issue i can isolate is the establishment of a severe impossibility for any man to obtain wisdom on his own, through his own action, outside of the only accepted action being that of submitting to the mediator creature could someone explain why this is wrong?
>>7733 >chechar >[presently all White nationalism is hot air. Currently there are not even revolutionary intellectuals!] this statement begs to be mitigated such intellectuals were still alive for the most part 20 years ago and the new intellectuals of to day are found on internet in the presence of many anons and other personalities maintaining websites who are very well aware of the coming armed struggle
>>13586 >this statement begs to be mitigated such intellectuals were still alive for the most part 20 years ago It really doesn't, though you can certainly feel free to email him a link to here so that he may contribute his thoughts to this discussion, and see where some of the better Fascist/NS thinkers I have come across spend their time, but on the whole he is right, the intellectuals like Pierce, Rockwell, Metzger, and so on, have no successors who are as public or even half as forthright in their beliefs, most"White Nationalists" follow the word of men like Kevin MacDonald like its the bible itself, even though Macdonalds basic premise about why Whites are so vulnerable to jewish predation is utterly false, we are not natural altruists, that is an outside infection foisted upon us from above. >in the presence of many anons and other personalities maintaining websites who are very well aware of the coming armed struggle What websites? aside from this and other imageboards where real discussion can happen, under competent moderation, there are fewq sites i have seen that taslk about even a portion of what we do and so few acknowledge the truths we do, Chechar is one of the only ones I have found and its the blog of a fucking Mexican Nordicist Nat Soc.
>>13650 >Mexican Nordicist Nat Soc Wait so he's half-hakf or is he a spic who wished he was born pure White.
>>13660 He is a spic born of a Nordic phenotype Spaniard father and I assume a mestiza mother, but haven't discovered exactly what she was yet, he has cousins and uncles, etc that look very White, I don't begrudge him his non-White status he is very intelligent though a bit autistic seeming at times, he is quite open about all this on other portions of his blog.
>>13650 >he is right, the intellectuals like Pierce, Rockwell, Metzger, and so on, have no successors who are as public or even half as forthright in their beliefs That's definitely true. There's literally no one out there who comes even close to filling the void left by Pierce. If he was alive today you can bet I'd be joining the National Alliance. The man was a treasure. Every major figure today is a clown, I don't know what the cause of it is, I don't know if it is because they are often so tied up with online drama today or what. And then Metzger has literally just died, so it seems like the old guard is really on their way out
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>>13678 What happened to that guy who ran for governor in California a few years back? He was pretty good.
>>13682 Patrick Little? I think he was a bit of a sperg, but he had balls, I'll give him that. I'm not sure what really happened to him, he basically completely dropped off the map.
>>13692 I think either it was all a show to lure out nationalists or the kikes "disappeared" him.
>>13693 He last uploaded in Bitchute in July. Before that though he had basically really dipped in profile from the brief amount of popularity that he had on /pol/ and other places. I’m not sure what to make of him. His story was kind of weird though – wasn’t it something like he read a part of Culture of Critique, and then immediately quit his job and started naming the Jew full time?
>>13692 >Patrick Little? I think he was a bit of a sperg Didn't he also try to appeal to niggers by promising them reparations?
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>>13697 >Didn't he also try to appeal to niggers by promising them reparations? Yes.
>>13699 But at least redpilled niggers now know that jews are controlling them.
>>13701 Not sure if it is a plus or not, because oftentimes that type of nigger will still partially conflate Jews and Whites, and will attempt to push their bullshit history were they wuz kangz and that Whites are merely inventions of Yakub or whatever
>>13699 That's not primarily an appeal to niggers it's a way of calling out the jews behind a shield. The point was probably just to red pill people.
>>13697 >>13699 If you read in-between the lines, you will see his reparation clause is quite clever. There's TWO gotchas in there.
>>13699 That would be what, $750 bucks per nigger? Would be funny to see them blow it drugs and useless gadgets
>>13702 That's what some niggers believe in and it's delusional nigger stuff. But others are either christian or atheist.
>>13650 we don't need any big public figures because all that needs to be said has already been said pierce rockwell devi lane klassen evola oliver duke metzger etc
>>13800 They can inspire, but they cannot lead.
>>13836 then it's not intellectuals we need per se
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>>13848 Not first and foremost. We need intelligent men who can articulate what they believe, but we need men of action, true Fascists. The intellectuals may lay the groundwork, but it is the natural-born leaders who do the actually important work.
>>13800 I agree, though I would exclude Duke unless you are not talking about David Duke. as for what we really need, it's just a leader of leaders, a manifestation of the will of Kalki.

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