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>twitter posting thread Blackshirt 07/16/2020 (Thu) 12:12:13 ID: 77c45b No.3586
What the title says. Post whatever twitter stuff you find that's relevant and/or interesting.
I'll start: https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/1283203565696151552 https://twitter.com/JeffersonLeeTV/status/1283262561404755969 https://twitter.com/cashmoneywok/status/1283496827086503936 https://twitter.com/cashmoneywok/status/1283050390313930752 https://twitter.com/cashmoneywok/status/1283025752334557184 https://twitter.com/SirFrancisNoir/status/1283100549936582657 https://twitter.com/rokivulovicfan/status/1283022701318123521 https://twitter.com/cashmoneywok/status/1282817392096112641 https://twitter.com/cashmoneywok/status/1283021189770735616 https://twitter.com/JediofGallifrey/status/1282412113928114179 https://twitter.com/MarkBrahmin/status/1283221951247462400 https://twitter.com/Aarick20/status/1283591927414304770 https://twitter.com/UpAndOv3r/status/1283536987912171521 https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1283523307254329344 https://twitter.com/somefellow6/status/1283653441127100416 https://twitter.com/Aarick20/status/1283226450884206592 https://twitter.com/MarkBrahmin/status/1283465281508184064 https://twitter.com/MarkBrahmin/status/1283471173733490688 https://twitter.com/hat_shoe/status/1282188245434916865 https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/1282185320818044929 https://twitter.com/Indian_Bronson/status/1283412669475717121 https://twitter.com/CovfefeAnon/status/1283434316568186880 https://twitter.com/AltAtlantic/status/1283464438448820225 https://twitter.com/whatisleftpod/status/1283406303352680449 https://twitter.com/cashmoneywok/status/1282817392096112641 https://twitter.com/arnelsmom/status/1282675582778707971 https://twitter.com/arnelsmom/status/1282736625466957825 https://twitter.com/YXphdGhvdGg/status/1283268745427693568 https://twitter.com/ReadLinkola/status/1282702688321445888 https://twitter.com/ReadLinkola/status/1282773710362021889 https://twitter.com/ReadLinkola/status/1283505308724330496 https://twitter.com/ReadLinkola/status/1283230121823014912 https://twitter.com/ReadLinkola/status/1282805285996900352 https://twitter.com/ReadLinkola/status/1283227336935178240 https://twitter.com/cashmoneywok/status/1283649909887864832 https://twitter.com/cashmoneywok/status/1283524223051284482 https://twitter.com/slavmorality/status/1283456821349539848 https://twitter.com/slavmorality/status/1283448650027474946 https://twitter.com/slavmorality/status/1283466370487910400 https://twitter.com/MarkBrahmin/status/1283453717518393344 https://twitter.com/TheWhiteThorne/status/1283457613863227395 https://twitter.com/slavmorality/status/1283448650027474946 https://twitter.com/Irusk8/status/1282221510409760768 https://twitter.com/MarkBrahmin/status/1283506108636823554 https://twitter.com/MarkBrahmin/status/1283472540493664257 https://twitter.com/MarkBrahmin/status/1283458862331449346 https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/1283205936685826049 https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/1283594141822144516
>>3587 I think you'll be hard-pressed to find many anons who will use twitter, so it would be better to post screenshots.
>>3587 No point in posting direct links imo Twitter accounts get banned everyday. Post screenshots or archives.
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What's a twatter?
Twitter is worthless now. When they disrupted the flow of how posts in the feed they encouraged retards to say retarded shit just to climb the algorithm ranking. Now they actually allow users to restrict who can even reply to a public post. It's an echo chamber for midwits that never actually think for themselves.
>>3777 >In short, it could be said that 'the most distinctive contribution of Africa to the history of humanity has in fact been the civilized art of living in a reasonably peaceful way without a state' Top kek how do these retards think that Europeans lived for millennia. There were of course communities and tribes - the idea of a "war of all against all" is false - but nothing like the state in the modern sense. Also that thing on Darwinism looks interesting, I'll check it out.
>>3784 Okay, I just read it. Though this article was obviously hostile to metaphysical evolutionists, I think it is worth reading, as it really gives a wider perspective on the ideas found in Cosmotheism. It begins less and less to look like an idea that Pierce just made up out of the blue, and more like a strand of thought that has been present in the West for a long time now, even before Darwin to an extent. By the authors standards I'm definitely Darwinistic rather than Darwinian myself, as I do think that Nature is the basic model for right behavior, and that evolutionary change is, in some respects, directive.
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I'm not a fan of twitter but I'm glad news stories like this can get some spotlight through it. https://nationalfile.com/black-man-executes-White-child-in-broad-daylight-in-north-carolina-neighborhood/ His name was Cannon Hinnant.
>>5305 >mainstream news not yet covered the story, except CBS >most of the sites that do are blatant propaganda sites >meanwhile on reddit, hundreds of (((accounts))) are angry that a sick fuck black neighbor immediately arrested and sentenced for murdering a child isn't starting national protests like systematic police negligence of not calling an ambulance for dying people I don't think this is national news, but I'd expect it to be news that should be reported by the state's media, if only for shock value or sympathy. Why does every interracial crime have to be treated like a hate crime by the left or the right.
>>5307 Because races hate each other. One of the many reasons nonWhites need to be removed. Just look at these niggers rioting over a dead criminal junkie, but they don’t give a shit about a dead White kid because he’s just a dead non-nigger. It only makes sense to hate those niggers, among many others for other reasons.
>>5310 >but they don’t give a shit about a dead White kid because he’s just a dead non-nigger It's more likely because >this is not a systematic incident, it's a fucked up homicide >they were quickly and competently arrested and are being prosecuted for first-degree murder >fucked up killings happen all the time and are not really news on their own, like school shootings or child molestation by non-authority figures What would they even be protesting against? child murder? gun laws? black people being your neighbor? mainstream media not blowing up a civilian homicide nationally and starting even more fucking chaos? Not everything is a conspiracy, Q warrior.
>>5313 >>fucked up killings happen all the time and are not really news on their own Yeah, that’s the real issue. This happens all the time.
>>5314 Yes, a country of 330 million people is going to have a lot of psychos. Too many to give proper attention to in the news. If we only reported about psychos committing mass shootings then you would have 87 last month, at least 24 including children and teenagers and many involving toddlers being killed. Those are just mass shootings. Child homicides in the US happen about 35 per day ("In the United States specifically, UNICEF [2014 I think] reports that there are about four annual child homicides for every 100,000 people.") and I'm sure most of them didn't deserve it. That isn't even going into child rape and other horrific newsworthy shit. There is so much fucked up shit happening and the fact that news stations miss ones that aren't sensational isn't really their fault, unfortunately. With numbers that big, there are going to be lots of black on White, White on black, latino on asian, whatever that happens, regardless of whether race had anything to do with the motivation or not. I could pick out a bunch and use it as ""proof"" that all journalism is ignoring [race]'s fate because it doesn't fit their narrative.
You know there are statistics out there about all this. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21 Note that the racial breakdown doesn’t separate out hispanics who are often classified as White.
>>5307 George Floyd shouldn't have been national news either, but the controlled media jumps on every incident they can regardless of what happened and uses it to push their anti-White agenda. In an America free of non-White savages, little boys like Cannon Hinnant would be much safer, and parents wouldn't have to fear for their children getting randomly executed for playing outside. Black-on-White crime is far, far higher than the opposite, which hardly exists. They need to go back, and soon.
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>>5313 >this is not a systematic incident, it's a fucked up homicide
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I'm not going to bother uploading the other 90 I have saved, which is only even a fraction of what was on the site I got it from.
>>5317 >I could pick out a bunch and use it as ""proof"" that all journalism is ignoring [race]'s fate because it doesn't fit their narrative. Yes, now compare what is reported versus the actual rates. Black on White violence is obscenely disproportional to the inverse. What's going on in your brain to not see this, lad? You seem like you are being contrarian for the sake of feeling above it all.
>>5317 >>5313 Go away lolberg.
>>5321 Thanks for providing statistics but you fail to justify their relevance to this conversation, which I thought was about interracial crimes. An issue is that the over-representation argument works both ways; if you pick a random person, they are most likely to be White. Because of this, you would expect more White victims of crime in non-segregated areas simply because we are overrepresented in the population. Therefore more White-on-black crime is statistically likely even if there is no racial motivation, just random failed robberies and arguments gone wrong. You can't assume a motivation simply due to skin color (see below for racial hate crimes statistics, which are slightly overrepresented in the opposite direction). Those are the kind of issues that make 'we have FBI statistics' not hold up without proper analysis. Despite making up 49% of the population, males commit over 88% of homocides. >>5357 >Black on White violence is obscenely disproportional to the inverse. Are we talking about Black on White racially-motivated crime, or Black on White crime total? There is a significant difference and one is not newsworthy. https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2018/tables/table-1.xls Over half the religion hate crimes are anti-Jew lol Also different mainstream news stations swing different ways, compare Fox and Breitbart for the opposite result. Fuck modern ""journalism"" on both sides of the spectrum. I agree with you that shit's fucked, but there is more to it than it not fitting their preferences. >not going to upload the other 90 I don't blame you, hundreds happen every year. It would be silly to waste time uploading them all. Over a thousand per year for the reverse, if numbers are your entire argument. >>5392 Does this not fit your narrative?
>>5406 Repeat After Me: A healthy social order wouldn't allow so many Nig Males around Whites.
>>5406 >>this is not a systematic incident, it's a fucked up homicide What makes you claim those random murders are systematic? Systematic =/= Plentiful. I checked ten of them and not a single pair mention a common motive or relation.
>>5408 >Because they don't state outright that they hate White people, they are all unrelated You're a nigger apologist.
>>5406 >Are we talking about Black on White racially-motivated crime, or Black on White crime total? There is a significant difference and one is not newsworthy. I wonder how many White on black crimes are reported as hate crimes when they are not hate crimes, and how often the reverse (black on White crimes not reported as hate crimes when they are) is true. Anyway, it doesn't matter whether it is racially motivated or not, niggers have to go.
>>5406 Keep sucking that nigger dick, you cuck. You care less about your own people than strangers from other tribes who don't give two shits about you, even while they attack and ethnically replace us. You are probably segregated from it and have limited contact with the real shitskin masses so that doesn't concern you. But of course that's merely a coincidence. Poor White people who get left behind and are forced to live in direct proximity with them every day can get fucked. Once we are all mixed it will be global utopia just like South America everywhere, and your descendants will be niggerspics. So in a way by siding with niggers right now, you are just advocating for your progeny. How moral!
>>5406 >so what 93% of interracial crime is specifically black on White >that's irrelevent to discussion >so what that none of it is reported outside of local news in the immediate area >that't irrelevant >so what the jews dominate all aspects of, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC and BBC >that's irrelevent to the discussion >just because it's statistically extremely significant doesn't make it systemic >niggers are justified in their mass attacks against Whites because they call Whites the system >who cares that there's literally no evidence to back it up in the slightest >so what they're underrepresented in prison compared to their crime rate >so what if they have the highest murder rate out of any racial group in the country >who cares that half of their murders are against Whites >it's irrelevent Garunteed, you are a dishonest kike. Go kill yourself schlomo, you JIDF niggerloving faggot. Have fun with your dragon dildo, I will suggest playing russian routlette, but make sure to load every chamber, elsewise it's not relevent.
>>5406 Does this not fit your narrative?
>>5455 The US is probably even less White than that. The official census results haven’t been released yet, and remember it doesn’t distinguish if they are illegals or not, that was determined in court.
>>5457 Daily reminder that in 2010, 12% of the "White" population was mixed hispanics. People are waiting for Whites to be a minority without realizing that we've already been there for nearly a decade. Whites get away with this delusion because they constantly move away from shitskins population centers while avoiding "no go zones", and fill in the gaps of perception with ZOG media programming. So they don't know how bad it really is. They don't even do their grocery shopping at the "trashy" grocery store. They go to the suburban one to avoid any stink of reality. Of course, they still find the energy to epicly debate us and throw us under the bus in social situations for going against their warped narrative. But the facts don't lie. All they can do is make petty excuses and nitpick every little detail while ignoring the meat of it. These race traitors don't really give a shit about us. What is most important to them is fitting in, so they toe the line to be accepted. Like the mindset of a woman.
>>5460 The older generations have been living comfortably (overall) during all of this, constantly complaining about what they are owed like SS and Medicaid, or complaining about how the younger ones should just pull themselves up by the bootstraps and give the manager a firm handshake, meanwhile selling them all out with civil rights bullshit to placate niggers and other subhumans and put them on pedestals, importing millions of legal and illegal aliens and shipping as much as possible overseas, all to live comfortably while paying less. People here and elsewhere know this. Those old fucks deserve everything that is coming. As things are, I don’t feel as if I have a future in this system. Pulling it down and rebuilding while removing all the filth is the only way forward out of the mulatto consumerist global hell. What little an individual can do, it’s at least something, and as things grow worse more people are getting irritated. This pressure on the drones needs to be intensified so they actually lash out instead of dying slowly.
>>5451 He probably has met non-Whites who were nice to him. Which brings the question - how does a WN/NatSoc convince them to love their race but not necessarily blindly hate another?
>>5474 Lmao of course plenty of non-Whites will be nice to you when you are hosting their invasion banquet without resistance. But I don't see why someone needs convincing to not hate non-Whites anyways. I don't hate them at all, I just want them the fuck out of Europe so that I'm not ethnically replaced. Just like I don't hate mosquitos, I just don't want them fucking biting me so I use bug spray and swat the ones who bother me. This is just logical self-preservation. But of course it's natural for emotions to come into play when your self-preservation is threatened and you are restrained from doing anything about it. So the people who have an expectation that others always be emotionless robots while they are being genocided are not acting in good faith. They consider the ethnic rape of Europe a foregone conclusion and are OK with it, so they gaslight those who do care with inhuman demands because they don't really care.
>>5452 >so what 93% of interracial crime is specifically black on White I find that hard to believe without evidence. Of all the interracial homocides recorded by FBI in the past few years, less than half are black on White (and that also includes hispanics as White). Ninety fucking three percent? Sounds like the shit a Qfag would tell you. >so what that none of it is reported outside of local news in the immediate area >that't irrelevant It's irrelevant. Homocide is rarely national news. If a nigger tried to rob you tomorrow and you shot him, that's local news at best. It might not even be. If you go insane and kill the first three people you see, that's not national news. That kind of thing happens multiple times a day. If you write a racial manifesto and walk into a non-violent gathering and shoot ten black people, maybe that will be national news. You seem to ignore the national news incidents are usually killings by police negligence or spree killings, not run-of-the-mill murder. >so what the jews dominate all aspects of, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, ABC and BBC >that's irrelevent to the discussion Yes. The jews and other billionaires are dominating that but it isn't a likely explanation for why every interracial murder it isn't national news. >just because it's statistically extremely significant doesn't make it systemic It's not extremely significant, in fact Black on White hate crime is far less statistically significant that White on Black hate crimes. Source (do you know what that word means?): https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2018/tables/table-1.xls >niggers are justified in their mass attacks against Whites because they call Whites the system implying mass attacks implying that would be justified implying you dont think attacks against the jews are justified because they are the system >who cares that there's literally no evidence to back it up in the slightest What did you mean by this. >so what if they have the highest murder rate out of any racial group in the country That's a problem. >who cares that half of their murders are against Whites >it's irrelevent It's not irrelevant, it's literally false. Where do you even hear this shit? Facebook? ~82% of their murders are against other blacks. Not that far from White on White numbers, actually. Look at any actual statistics. The amount of straight-up bullshit you wrote is comparable to Qfaggotry. You don't have to lie to make blacks look bad, so stop being a no-brain nigger.
>>5455 That graph shows a bad trend. Of course it's a bad thing. And it's true. https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf (table 14) However it's important to understand WHY it looks worse than it is. Firstly they all look big until they include the White on White, black on black, etc which make th eblack on White look trivial Interracial crime can't be linearly interpolated to population to show over-representation. If we assume the White on black crime is not racially motivated (and I think most of it wouldn't be, there are 100 better reasons to hit someone) then the chances of a random person you assault being black is 13% if we were equally distributed (we aren't, so the percents will be smaller in practice as some places group races together more, but it gets the general idea across) and 60% chance they are White. So the chances of an arbitrary crime being White on black is going to be low as there are are less potential black victims. On the other hand, a black committing violence against an arbitrary person has a 60% of the victim being White (like I said, lower in practice, but the difference is still massive). It doesn't just cancel out when you say 'but there are more White people to commit crimes too', since a black person committing an indiscriminate crime will have a 60% chance of vicitimizing a White while a White will also have a 60% chance of victimizing a White. If we assume race is rarely the motivation (and the number of recorded hate crimes suggests this is true, most people just want money) then the demographics of the victims affects the expected distribution of interracial crimes. Of course, it's wrong to then say we should be expecting blacks interracial crime to be up at 60 instead of 50, because races group together a lot which is why White on White and black on black outnumber White on black and black on White . Pic related is the data source of your graph, with the same ace crimes left in. That massive bar on your graph is only 15% of crimes on Whites, 60% are White on White. I'm not saying that the blacks aren't disproportionate. They are and its a bad thing, but taking that graph at face-value makes it look 10 times worse than it actually is.
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>>5500 Aaaand forgot picture, but its the same as the link.
>>5500 Ok lolberg
Any more than 0 nonWhite on White Crimes is too many. Argue as much as you want about numbers but 1 is too many.
>>5515 >id WHOA WHOA WHOA WE GOT A FED HERE! BO!? BO!? FED BADGE NUMBER 647!!!
>>5523 HOW DO THEY ALWAYS KNOW?!
>>5500 >I'm not saying that the blacks aren't disproportionate. They are and its a bad thing Sounds like you are catching on! Now ask yourself if a dead White person cares whether the nigger who killed them was motivated by racial profiling or simply by their natural proclivity toward apelike behavior. The fact is spics and niggers are more violent overall and commit more outgroup violence than Whites or asians. What is happening to us is not just a byline in some Internet argument. It results in real tragedy for real people within our race. Well, maybe not you, but it's happened to many of us. All the fussing and mental gymnastics in the world will not cancel out that fundamental problem. There's also a funny coincidence, they disproportionately vote to ban our access to self defense.
>>5528 >Sounds like you are catching on! Now ask yourself if a dead White person cares whether the nigger who killed them was motivated by racial profiling or simply by their natural proclivity toward apelike behavior. Dead people are dead, anon. They don't care about shit. Being killed by a White man (far more likely than being killed by a black man) doesn't make it any better. The small over representation (if you think 'slight' is bullshit, read my previous post for evidence) isn't enough for me to be confident that it is caused mostly by genetics, but rather socio-economic circumstance. Rich people usually don't need to commit violent or drug-related crimes for money. More White people are rich and live in richer neighborhoods. I think your surroundings and education have a bigger effect on your behavior than race (that's why blacks with rich parents can earn medical degrees and be useful scientists, while a White trailer trash still thinks the earth is flat and a jew from a virgin mother died to remove their sins). Sandniggers literally invented algebra, now they are third world. That's not racial genetics, that's society, politics and economics. Genetics probably have an effect, but it's highly outweighted by more significant factors. You kill all the blacks and spics and jews and then the poor Whites and sociopaths will take their place (see bezos, musk, etc). The issues of low income and lack of decent education and opportunity are first on the list for violent crime, genetics is far further down. >The fact is spics and niggers are more violent overall and commit more outgroup violence than Whites or asians. ...because a random incident from a black has far higher chance of being outgroup compared to a Whites. We discussed this already. If they had the same amount of outgroup violence, it would be very strong evidence that Whites were outrageously genetically violent. >What is happening to us is not just a byline in some Internet argument. It results in real tragedy for real people within our race. Well, maybe not you, but it's happened to many of us. All the fussing and mental gymnastics in the world will not cancel out that fundamental problem. Pro-far-right news outlets and /pol/tards misinterpreting statistics (intentionally or accidentally) to push an agenda is a problem too with real effects. It encourages racial crimes against of one group, which in turn encourages retaliation and just makes things even worse based on a false premise. Falsely telling people random killings are the same as White genocide is dangerous boogaloo shit that,if it becomes popular, can get innocent Black people killed, which matters because that will lead to innocent White people killed. The exact same shit happens on the equally-dumb far-left, where they are tricked into believing all of us here are rich and oppressing them and committing black genocide all based on true but misinterpreted statistics of wealth distribution by race, hate crimes by race, etc. (but of course, the regular White person isn't that much richer, all the billionaires at the top skew the distribution so much that the 'average' White and jew appears so much richer that other races feel like a victim. Just like these race crime statistics are to us). Misinterpreted statistics become propaganda that cause real and dangerous damage. Contextualizing them is not mental gymnastics. Here's a fact: the average US adult has about $400,000 worth. The median US adult has only $66,000. Do all the US anons here have around $400,000 worth on average? It's a reasonable conclusion from true statistics taken out of context. This is the same thing that is why those crimes statistics look far worse than they actually are. >There's also a funny coincidence, they disproportionately vote to ban our access to self defense. See above. Them being told misinterpreted statistics and propaganda has made them scared of us. Of course they don't want us armed just like blackshirts don't want blacks armed. Jews and Boogaloos want to divide us, they want you scared of blacks and blacks scared of you. Divide and conquer.
>>5541 >White trailer trash still thinks the earth is flat Please don’t tell me you unironically believe the globe meme
>>5541 >because a random incident from a black has far higher chance of being outgroup compared to a Whites. No you dense twat, niggers and spics are far more violent overall, whether in-group OR outgroup. Your socio-economic argument is also bullshit, because poor appalachian Whites and poor asians aren't violent shitbags like spics and niggers are. You are detached from reality. >Them being told misinterpreted statistics and propaganda has made them scared of us. This proves you're hopeless. Just fuck off already. Get it over with and suck the nigger dick you fucking race traitor. You won't be happy until we all prostrate ourselves before the hordes. Here's the truth. Niggers, spics, and mudslimes don't like you. The masses of them hate on you when you're not around to witness it. And they always will. You didn't grow up in the ghetto so you're oblivious to this. No matter how much you put your ass in the air for them, they will NEVER "stop being scared of us" and start voting for liberty. They will always demand more gibs, more power for their own tribe, more big government, just like they do in the beautiful continents they've turned into shitholes. There is no appeasing the invaders except through our full ethnic replacement. Then they will turn on each other, just like they do in Apefrica and South Bananamerica. You make me sick.
>>5541 We really need to ban lolbergs.
>>5541 >Dead people are dead, anon. They don't care about shit. Being killed by a White man (far more likely than being killed by a black man) doesn't make it any better. The small over representation (if you think 'slight' is bullshit, read my previous post for evidence) isn't enough for me to be confident that it is caused mostly by genetics, but rather socio-economic circumstance. https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/race-and-iq/ Then you need to do your research I'd start with the above link and if after reading most everything that site has to offer, please feel free to come back actually informed and make an educated rebuttal of our beliefs based uppon the science, Note:the writer and admin of that website is NOT a national socialist, he is an HBDfag and kind of an autist, and unironically thinks we should divide into states based on political beliefs, he is a published genetic researcher as well. if you like his writing also check out his bitchute channel linked here: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/6J6no88uualH/ >..because a random incident from a black has far higher chance of being outgroup compared to a Whites. We discussed this already. If they had the same amount of outgroup violence, it would be very strong evidence that Whites were outrageously genetically violent. We have also discussed that White in the US covers a very wide range of people in the US including spics(see Nick Fuentes) if you want some thorough debunking of the myth you perpetuate here see Vincent james on youtube, he is a christcuck but is a hardline race realist but is too invested in the system to let go of it and thinks because he knows good niggers, spics and jews, that it is possible to live harmoniously alongside them, it is not. >Pro-far-right news outlets and /pol/tards misinterpreting statistics (intentionally or accidentally) to push an agenda is a problem too with real effects. It encourages racial crimes against of one group, which in turn encourages retaliation and just makes things even worse based on a false premise. Falsely telling people random killings are the same as White genocide is dangerous boogaloo shit that,if it becomes popular, can get innocent Black people killed, which matters because that will lead to innocent White people killed. What misinterpretation of statistics are you referring to? it's actually really funny that you actually believe in innocence at all, or that innocence matters you Neo-christian shill. Does nature, aka a lion, a wolf, a bear, care if you are innocent? No, it doesn't therefore innocence is false and should never be preserved, it should never be allowed to exist in the first place, for if it does, death will come for you much earlier than for someone like me. >Here's a fact: the average US adult has about $400,000 worth. The median US adult has only $66,000. Do all the US anons here have around $400,000 worth on average? It's a reasonable conclusion from true statistics taken out of context. This is the same thing that is why those crimes statistics look far worse than they actually are. This is false it is a severe misrepresentation of not only White wealth but wealth in the US in general, for one to reach such a high figure they would have to include the 1% thoise who make 400k or above, literally. That invalidates the entirety of the statistic and the study it came from. >See above. Them being told misinterpreted statistics and propaganda has made them scared of us. Of course they don't want us armed just like blackshirts don't want blacks armed. Jews and Boogaloos want to divide us, they want you scared of blacks and blacks scared of you. Divide and conquer. Te only thing you got even remotely correct is that this is Divide and Conquer, in that they import ever more non-Whites to introduce and exacerbate the already existing divide between the races, Niggers are violent by nature and their crime statistics have been 5 or 6 times higher than ours even before 1965, and the rash of fatherlessness that followed, that data is harder to find but it's out there. Nobody here is afraid of niggers, we are angry and want them to stop and we are losing patience with the system and will take matters into our own hands as a collective as they show no sign of reversing course.
>>5542 Go away jew.
>>5544 Nah they provide an excuse to argue, it only make us stronger although if they keep coming back just to shitpost and contribute nothing, they should be banned.
>>5546 If you look into the evidence it’s much less conclusive than one would think. Call me a Jew if you want but we know that NASA fakes literally everything and has never been to the Moon, and that the Jews would have a vested interest in pushing for aspects of the current model. If it were true disinfo Jewtube wouldn’t put its damage-control “context” label on videos which investigate these things, and neither would they induce reactions in the golems to react with such anger at any questioning of the heliocentric or globular models. Sage for off-topic
>>5541 >Jews and Boogaloos want to divide us >Jews why do you care about jews though? If the reason for the way someone acts is based on socio-economics and not race, then why do care about the jewish race, for you they're just greedy rats because of socio-economic reasons and not because they've always been like that, and if you changed their environment you would change them, sounds like you're trying to associate something that we naturally dislike to another thing so we would not do that other thing, you're a subversive fag aren't you
>>5548 The measurements of the passage of the sun through the sky that the Greeks made by measuring shadows, are as conclusive as it gets, the earth is an imperfect sphere. You want to get into what's real and whats fake about anything else, being that nobody here has been to space, feel free. I'll still think you're an idiot.
>>5550 >le Eratosthenes meme The shadows in Eratosthenes' test can be caused by a giant, distant sun beaming parallel rays towards a globe, the globe curve being what's causing the different shadow lengths/angles. Or it could be a local, small sun with converging rays of light causing the different lengths/angles of the shadows on a flat surface.
>>5551 Please get in a rocket and go up to find this Local small sun, that would cause just by virtue of it's existence even at the small size it would be, HUGE gravitational magnetic, and thermal disruptions because all known theories that aren't based on christcuckery or pseudo science sataate it is either a plasmic iron core surrounded by plasmic hydrogen(no i'm not joking there is an apparently mathematically valid theory of this out there straight out of the University of Minnesota, IIRC) or a giant ball of Hydrogen gas with a fusion reaction in its center, either one would cause severe disruptions to life on this earth at any size, the theory of flat earth is inconsistent with the facts, get over it and get out of here.
>>5541 This whole board is about White people caring about their own race. Other races do it too. Why can't the Whites do the same?
>>5307 >Why does every interracial crime have to be treated like a hate crime by the left Fixed that for you. Remember goy: if blacks kill/rape/steal it's not newsworthy. If Whites are killed is not newsworthy. If Whites do anything, it's always newsworthy to put them in a bad light. The only way the murder of this child could have been newsworthy would have been if the killer were White, so it 'd be used to push the anti gun propaganda.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8621009/Homeless-man-charged-murdering-guest-Florida-hotel.html >Morgan was found naked in the hotel room bathroom later that day. His larynx was crushed so severely that it would have had to be caused by 'using a shoe and stomping on a person’s throat,' the arrest report said. >'There was also an unknown black object lodged in the victim's anal cavity,' the document stated. >Washington’s roommate told investigators Washington washed his clothes in the sink before leaving with an iPad that he had never seen before. Police searched the room and found a White face mask with 'Martha’s Vineyard' imprinted on it. >Washington denied killing Morgan. The arrest report doesn’t list a motive for the killing. >Court records show Washington has a lengthy criminal history, including a conviction for killing a woman in Homestead in 1985. >Washington was staying at the hotel in Dania Beach after Fort Lauderdale handed out free vouchers in May to get homeless people off the street to help stop the spread of coronavirus, which has been ravaging Florida in recent months.
Varg has set all of his tweets as protected. Something must have made him extremely butthurt
>>5837 He tweeted a top 10 worst countries list and Brazil was on number 4. Shortly after, a bunch of degenerate shitskin monkeys come to spam all of his tweets with nigger porn. He's not "butthurt".
>>5849 I guess that would be a justified response then. I thought he had sperged out over something, but it seems like I was wrong. I remember seeing that tweet about the countries but I didn’t know it had caused such a shitstorm among hues. Hopefully he’s not down long
>>5854 You know when even the niggers are dressed nicer than the average White today we’re truly living in a degenerate society
>>5856 Well good for niggers to improve. Now the focus should be on Whites.
>>5866 Niggers haven’t improved, they’ve degenerated as well. I was saying that niggers in these photos are dressed nicer than Whites today
>>5870 That is true and I take back what I said. Niggers were unruly but some of them were proper back then. Now even the Thomas Sowells of themgrt shut down and probably even killed. And they're a super tiny minority.
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>>5541 >socio-economic circumstance explains criminality Imagine being this retarded
>>5837 Anybody know what Varg's been tweeting now that his account's protected?
>>6046 Shit, it went down again, huh? It was unprotected yesterday. He hadn’t tweeted anything new of real interest if I recall correctly. He was calling the Brazilians who are spamming him “absolute subhumans” in some replies though
Twitter is jewish as fuck, even some of the fascist on there are a bunch of subversive kikes who lie and subvert bullshit lies. >>5849 >Had to protect his tweets because he spoke the truth about a shithole Further proof that the modern age is shit.
>>6059 I think these shitskins don't understand that Varg doesn't actually hate anyone based on race They should do more research.
>>6059 The one thing I hate about social media is that it seems to turn people extremely arrogant, making them feel as if they’re opinion on a lot of matters is relevant at all. This is the clearest with a lot of leftists and mentally ill people. Oftentimes with political stuff it just seems like retards taking potshots at each other >>Had to protect his tweets because he spoke the truth about a shithole The mutt cries out in pain as he strikes you
>>6060 >Implying shitskins have enough braincells to understand the word "research". >>6061 >The one thing I hate about social media is that it seems to turn people extremely arrogant, making them feel as if they’re opinion on a lot of matters is relevant at all. This. I fucking hate arrogant people and social media has only created the most self absorbed pieces of shit to exist. It's not just that they think that their opinions matters are relevant on everything, but that its the only correct and objective opinion that you must have just like them. I especially hate niggers on the left and on our side who nig out for proving them wrong or questioning their bullshit. Criticism should be seen as a healthy form of improvement not a strike at your puny ego.
>>6062 What's the point of criticising shitskins when majority of WNs want more land then just White countries?
>>6061 >social media I only use that just for my own close friends and family. They just post non-political stuff. I just don't subscribe to popular zog stars.
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>>6089 >Jews want a race war Lol. Could you get in trouble if you got caught putting something up like that? I'd like to distribute some redpills in public but don't want to be on some watch list if I got caught.
>>6089 >server not found Disappointing.
>>6691 >Could you get in trouble if you got caught putting something up like that? If you're in the US I don't think you'd get in legal trouble if you're careful. Depends what you do though. I was recently listening to an old William Pierce broadcast and apparently some National Alliance members got huge vandalism charges in some cucked city for putting a National Alliance sticker or two on some building, a charge completely out of proportion to what they did. If you're just holding up signs or distributing fliers of some kind the biggest thing you'd have to worry about is non-Whites, cucks and Jews harassing you, so it'd be best to carry a gun and / or mace to keep those goons away. Might be good to have some buddies with you too. >>6696 They must have gotten taken down over this or something, because back when I posted those pics, GoyimTV was still up. It seemed like a great site though. What a shame. >>6698 >tfw Destiny comes off as based compared to this faggot What is happening? Also, if this behavior around Marvel and Harry Potter comfirms anything, it's that popular entertainment should not be underestimated. Imagine if instead of these soy (((movies))) we had pro-fascist movies playing. The society would change overnight.
Now Varg's @GandalftheWhi19 account is also locked. It was just his @WargarW account last I looked. I'm thinking it would have been better just to ignore the Brazilian mutts for a few days, this seems to have brought even more attention
>>6060 Please. Varg is a fucking brainlet that thinks we're legit neanderthals. His biggest fanbase is in those mutt countries to the point he's got translator's for every video of him changing his car's oil, how are they suppose to react from him dismissing their existence as a mistake?
>>6742 Who cares what his fanbase is? Imagine you're a content creator, you want to attract a certain group of people. But you end up attracting another demographic entirely. This happens to any fandom. (using that word meant for entertainment is weird for politics)
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>>6769 Most content creators are happy for the fans regardless, and Varg is constantly pushing Whites away from himself for having dark hair or eyes while propping turks with White features up as his tribe. Italians are on par with Brazilians in his eyes.
Varg's Twitter is public again. Hallelujah!
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>>6842 I hope he keeps it up again. I enjoy following his tweets, but looking at the comments for stuff like this tweet there are tons of mutts who have spammed porn.
Varg’s response to this sent my sides into orbit
>>7563 >>7564 The fact that 100 people liked this is either because they are laughing at how stupid he is or because they unironically believe this. Either way Varg needs to get his head out of his own ass.
Why also don't you guys just nitter? Or better yet just stay the fuck off Twitter, the site is filled with retards on both the left and the right who all come up with bad interpations of things and shill retarded ideas.
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>>7563 >>7564 So Varg is an architect now?
>>7574 What's wrong with what he said?
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>>7574 He's right though. The Jews are behind the current depiction of women in the popular imagination as gross skeletons with no curves. This is a completely different topic, but through their depiction of women in the media and the shilling of makeup, skincare products, diet scams and other beauty products, they are making them vain, unhealthy and self-hating because they are unable to live up to the Jewish-manufactured ideal. Proactiv was founded by a Jew. Revlon is owned by a Jew. Calvin Klein was founded by Jews and is ran by a Jewish-controlled parent company PVH Victoria's Secret is owned by a Jewish parent company and has a suspiciously Semitic-looking interim CEO.
>>7620 >>7622 You're both retarded she's not infertile at all, her body is fine stop blaming Jews on everything being this retarded.
>>7623 Maybe not wholly infertile, but not at peak fertility. Also, I wouldn't have to blame the Jews for everything if they weren't literally behind everything
>>7624 Except the jews aren't behind working out at all and no you're still incorrect considering fertility is not lost by body fat. This is Varg being wrong as always.
>>7624 >Also, I wouldn't have to blame the Jews for everything if they weren't literally behind everything If Jews were behind everything, they would be the uncontested master race. Stop being retarded.
>>7642 Name one social ill that is not caused by Jews, directly or indirectly. I’ll wait.
>>7643 Name one social ill that is caused by people being fit and strong.
>>7643 Decadence and degeneracy was widely documented in Europe, Arabia and Asia well before the jews could have traveled there. Of course, if you want to keep believing the jews are demigods, you can. Just do it somewhere else.
>>7648 Of course degeneracy can exist apart from the presence of Jews, this would be a ridiculous claim to hold. That claim only applies in regards to the main modern issues that we face. In nearly every case the root of the problem lays with that one tribe. They are not omnipotent, but the longer they are allowed to fill our countries with their poison, the more powerful they become
>>7642 jews and their extreme in group preference is the biggest issue at the moment of course they aren't the only cause, but they are involved most if not all modern problems
>>7738 But it is to note that it is natural for every group to have an in-group reference. However, it's is the kikes who think they must have everyone else killed with their religion.
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>>7744 Of course an in-group preference is natural. Different groups all striving for their own benefits will inevitably lead to conflicts, open or otherwise. This is the struggle for existence. This is another reason why multiculturalism is impossible. The biggest problem with Jews is that they are a parasitic race and we have been tormented by these rats for millennia.
>>7746 Why is Mark Brahmin such a fucking faggot? Is this the same retard who thinks that Brahmins are closer to Aryans than Europeans and claimed Hitler was a communist?
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>>5541 >Sandniggers literally invented algebra, now they are third world. Because they are inbred retards. Scientific research is forbidden under Islam. Those who try to apply critical thinking gets killed because it could create doubts of how "Allah" changes the world.
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>>5541 >Sandniggers literally invented algebra, now they are third world Anon, I...
>>8750 Wait until he learns that ever figure of note from his homeland has been White
>>8758 middle easterners are not White they might be our ancestors White skin and look like us but where different from their their middle eastern where European.Also only people in the Iranian/Persian group are prominently White
>>8761 >middle easterners are not White That's not what he was saying, you lack reading comprehension. The old elite of the Middle-East and most major historical figures of the region were White. Even today this holds true to some extent as powerful and rich men will always marry the Whitest women of their race so even if they are not White themselves, their offspring will be (which explains >>8758).
>>8761 I was saying essentially what >>8762 said. Many elites have historically been closer to Whites than the mud people who comprise the masses. Marxist pilpul likes to think that all revolutions in history are the result of class struggles, but the real redpill is that it is more often a struggle between higher and lower racial vying to keep their power or encroach on others.
>>8762 Having blue eyes does not mean that you're White. You literally don't understand what White even means. Even when you have blond hair and blue eyes you can still phenotypically look like a mudslime or have their genes. You're taking few examples and trying to say that their totally a tons of Whites in the Middle East when most of their truly Aryan genes have been diluted. Whites are a minority in the Middle East and the vast majority are mudslimes.
>>8761 >Also only people in the Iranian/Persian group are prominently White This isn't true either, when will you morons not realize that Whites were at best the higher ups not the general population. It's almost like you're trying to promote muttery or are completely ok with mixing with someone who is only like 30 to 60% White.
>>8775 >It's almost like you're trying to promote muttery or are completely ok with mixing with someone who is only like 30 to 60% White. Is anyone here telling anyone to mix with Persians or Indians? I've never seen it. It's like Greeks today, they are hardly White in the sense that they were in the old epics.
>>8696 >He was peaceful but not It's quite logical. Against superior forces, pretend being weak, do not provoke the enemy. Then, when you can, gather all your assets, take more, fight, kill, loot and win again. Christians did it a lot too and see where we are now, with this filth spread all over the globe, with all the tears, the love, the giving up on your treasures and absolutely not resisting evil. >And he also attacked the Jews unprov... Fuck the Jews. >He was honorable... not Honor will only give you that much against enemies. Germans had plenty of honor. They got defeated and shat on. Twice. Honor is within your kin and maybe, maayyyyyybe for a few people outside of it that you respect. >dhimmitude Like 99.99% Christians will be put under it by Pagans. It's good, it makes money. >the Autist, the Warlord and Prophet Is this a bad thing now? Hey, throw me a stone! >Muslims are honest about their religion... not Only retards would tell the truth to their enemy. Islam is still a messed up religion for low IQ sandniggers nevertheless, but it does have a few things right and these things are like Sun Tzu tier hardcore based law. In fact we should practice taqqiya against the ZOG and migrants too until the day we can get what we need and take it without a second thought.
>>8787 I've noticed that a lot of the crying about Islam is no different than what you'd hear from basic bitch Republicans unfortunately. A lot of it you point here in your posts and I have a similar viewpoint to you. Whites should have their own equivalents of Taqiya, White pagans should oppress all Abrahamics under their dominion, Whites should not be afraid to be brutally violent if we have to. We should certainly warn people that Islam is a false religion opposed in many ways to our goals and the Natural Order, and that they, as our enemy, practice dissimulation and trickery, but I do not condemn it from a moral standpoint, but from a standpoint of calling attention to a tactic of our enemy that we should not be afraid of using ourselves if we must. It is like with the Jews and their double-standards. I certainly do not fault them on this, even if I point it out. Whites should have a strict difference in their dealings between in-group and out-group
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If patriarchy is having the father as the head of the household, and if they blame Christianity for patriarchy, what do these people think the pagan social structure was like? Harmony obviously doesn't necessarily imply equality, is Varg's endorsement of this some form of matriarchal placenta cult garbage again?
>>8791 We shit on islam, because you retards don't realize that paganism and other Aryan religion already practice the idea of "might is right". You don't need any inspiration from Islam, and usually retards who admire Islam try to shill it. Islam was inspired and took it's ideas of making others submissive from Indo-Europeans, so there is no need to take ideas from sandniggers when pagans have done it already.
>>9213 >there is no need to take ideas from sandniggers And no one had advocated for this. To anyone that has read or studied anything, it's clear that Indo-European pagans many times had similar practices, so it is certainly not taking things from Islam. The problem is when faggots start arguing against these things in Islam and end up sounding like a liberal faggot in the process. And then if one tries to advocate for a hard line on a certain social issue, you get the inevitable "OY VEY THAT IS WHAT MUSLIMS DO"
>>9214 Except I've literally seen some tards try to claim that muh Islam is more based than Christcuckery. The ideas of Islam are to create inbred traditionalists who are too genetically fucked up and low IQ to think for themselves. No one here has been advocating agaisnt Islam for taking similar practice the Aryans have done. We been shitting on Islam for it's retarded universalist ideals, their high ass inbred rates and stealing ideas and technologies from other cultures and claiming that they 100% created it out of pure spiritualities.
>>9215 >Except I've literally seen some tards try to claim that muh Islam is more based than Christcuckery. This is true though, in the same way that the Old Testament is more based than the New Testament. The spirit of the New Testament, the spirit of Christianity, is among one of the purest forms of slave morality, glorification of weakness and timidity that has graced this Earth. This doesn't mean that it is the way for our people or that it is true though, because it is not the way, and not true. The Laws of Nature are our guide.
>>9216 >This true No it's not true at all, it's a fucking myth garbage, shilled by tards who think Islam is way more righteous or radical than Christianity. Tere is nothing worse than a religion that cares little for their race/ethnicity, nature and only seeks to make you and others a slave and submissive for some Jew nigger, because their spiritualities "are da truth". Islam has the same slave mortality along with the weakening of man that christcucks preach.
>>9219 Apparently you're unable of understanding what I am saying. They're all bad, but if I had to rank them, Christianity would certainly be the worst.
>>9220 I'm reading you correctly and I'm telling you none of them should be referred to as "le based" or have any form of admiration.
>>9221 We agree then. Islam is not for White people, nor is any Abrahamic cult
>>9213 You miss the point. The post was a reply to the obviously frail critique found in the pictures. At no point was there an attempt to say that Islam was the religion for Whites. >>9219 >No it's not true at all, it's a fucking myth garbage, shilled by tards who think Islam is way more righteous or radical than Christianity. What? Violence and war, physical and spiritual, are all over the pages in the Quran and many other supplementary texts. There is a reason why Christianity is called the fucking religion of love.
>>9236 >What? Violence and war, physical and spiritual, are all over the pages in the Quran and many other supplementary texts. Christanity is the same way, it's not a hippie loving religion either, Christian have their own version of killing and torturing those who are against them and/or sin . This muh christianity is a loving religion is a meme from morons misunderstanding the bible. Only leftists believe this, but in reality Christians are not afraid of slaughtering and beating the living shit out of people otherwise you would have to explain the Crusades and the native European genocide. Also Islam being violent, war does not equal good, Islam is violent for their sake, not for the same viewpoint that pagans which is that dying for your freedom, ethnicity, heritage, etc is heroic, while sandniggers find that dying for Allah is the only and greatest thing you can do. And their spiritualities are fucking garbage, what the fuck do you mean physical and spiritual? Today mudslimes are weak and skinny as fuck and their spiritualities are shit or stolen from other religions.
>>9246 >but in reality Christians are not afraid of slaughtering and beating the living shit out of people otherwise you would have to explain the Crusades and the native European genocide. This happened because those in power chose to ignore the more inconvenient teachings of Jesus. I don't blame them either, they were so cucked that one would have gone extinct if they seriously took things such as "turn the other cheek", "hate your mother and father" (Luke 14:26) and "love your enemies". In many ways Christianity functioned like Bolshevism. When weak, they preached love, salvation, brotherhood of man, etc but when strong they changed mask and let their bloodlust run wild, enforcing their orthodoxy, suppressing pagan rites, closing down philosophy schools, removing images of pagan gods, etc. When Christianity crept into the halls of power it changed from "love your enemies" to "HOC SIGNO VINCES". This was quite the change from the teachings of Jesus as depicted in the four gospels. Was it really Christianity? Jesus might have been surprised. One might argue that this was a good change, and that this was the Christianity that Jesus really did support. This still doesn't change that over the centuries the morality of Christianity as contained with the Bible still filtered into the European consciousness. Slave morality gradually came to be seen the norm. The religion that originated among slaves, women and low-lives in the Roman Empire always remained a religion for the suffering. The lowly, oppressed, meek, downtrodden - all of those who suffer from life as from an illness are fundamentally "godly" and right morally-speaking, while the opposite, the masters, the strong, the beautiful, etc are evil, needing to be humbled. Here we see the roots for leftism and almost everything plaguing our kind today. >Islam is violent for their sake, not for the same viewpoint that pagans which is that dying for your freedom, ethnicity, heritage, etc is heroic, while sandniggers find that dying for Allah is the only and greatest thing you can do. If Whites acted like crazed Jihadis in the fight for freedom, ethnicity, heritage I would be cheering them on. >>9246
Apologies if it has been posted before. Twitter thread on the Frankist movement, whose degenerate teachings might have been the basis of the degeneracy of modern-day Jews. https://nitter.net/DiscoOrpheus/status/1245742217223901187#m
>>9507 Some good info in there, thanks for posting. I was unaware that Tikkun had yet another association with this type of thing. I have collected some information on the idea of Tikkun Olam that I will have to post in the other thread on interesting information. It really contextualizes this idea of "repairing" God in Kabbalah
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>>9560 Interesting. I wonder how much of their beliefs are just some form of Shaktism / other forms of Hinduism veiled in a different garb. Also makes me wonder why Gypsies strike me as so much more subhuman than actual Indians.
>>9561 > I wonder how much of their beliefs are just some form of Shaktism / other forms of Hinduism veiled in a different garb. When I first out that gypsies descend from Indians, I realized their whole association with occultism and tarot and all that must be connected with Hinduism although one could ponder as to how much gypsies themselves know about Hinduism, since they have been disconnected from their roots for a thousand years or so. >Also makes me wonder why Gypsies strike me as so much more subhuman than actual Indians Good question, maybe they had issues with inbreeding like the Jews. I also find it interesting how some of them look no different from full-blood Whites whereas others look like they came straight from a third-world country. https://youtu.be/KvUN_MLiaUs
>>9572 >vid What an utter shithole. Makes niggers here in the US look civilized in comparison. >how much gypsies themselves know about Hinduism, since they have been disconnected from their roots for a thousand years or so. It's interesting to note that the analogous type of "Goddess worship" in Hinduism is the most directly Dravidian influenced type of Hinduism from what it looks like. The article I posted below notes that some of the rituals they perform are very similar to puja ceremonies dedicated to Kali or Durga, and were likely disguised or semi-Christianized to avoid persecution. If anything it'd be more similar to what literal streetsheeters in India practice at the village level than anything admired here. https://kopachi.com/articles/the-romani-goddess-kali-sara-ronald-lee/ >Good question, maybe they had issues with inbreeding like the Jews. Seems like it. From Wikipedia "Genetic research published in the European Journal of Human Genetics "revealed that over 70% of males belong to a single lineage that appears unique to the Roma"
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ffs NRx fags who probably hate fascism anyways and faggots shilling their shitty twitter on this board. last i looked at imperiumpress and other NRx accounts, they were anti-fascist.
>>9582 What is Nrx and who is imperiumpress?
>>9585 NRx are the guys who support absolute monarchism and hate the Enlightenment. I think they generally are against stuff like mass movements as well. Look up Mencius Moldbug
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>>9585 They're usually the faggots spouting "muh Enlightenment" everywhere and shilling their blogsphere, but NRx is short for Neoreaction. A lot were once libertarians, like Truediltom, and some still are. I have met enough NRx people to know they oppose fascism. It is hard to describe NRx because they're a salad of autism. Take for example, this ancap blog associated with Imperium Press: https://www.zerothposition.com/2020/09/07/colonize-bookshelf-part-iii/ https://www.zerothposition.com/merch/ >However, Stoddard also underlines some of the deepest errors of the Third Reich, errors which one will not find in contemporary histories, errors which were far deeper than the strategic ones that doomed it, and which are of far greater import. Dictatorship—Filmer would call it monarchy—is the mark of a healthy society, but there are some things into which the absolute sovereign ought not to intrude, for both his own good and that of his people. In discussing the educational system, Stoddard explains that the Hitler Youth demanded of its members strict loyalty to the state above loyalty to the family, subverting fatherly power by encouraging children to disobey their parents. This caused the traditional patriarch of the German family to object to the claims of the Hitler Youth on the home even when they might be in sympathy with the regime. Often children denounced their own parents to the authorities, leading to many personal tragedies. This underlines the main failure of Nazism, which is also where it fundamentally dovetails with left-wing socialism >This innovation and experiment in such ancient institutions as the family, law, and historic local identities characterizes the fatal flaw in National Socialist ideology: it placed modernism, development, and the principles of the Enlightenment above the archaic Aryan spirit at the core of its ideology, a spirit which it misunderstood. https://www.zerothposition.com/2020/09/14/colonize-bookshelf-part-iv/ >Murray Rothbard wrote that there are no human rights that are not property rights[5], and this underscores the libertarian’s intense concern with property. This is something the Aryan understands very well. In fact, he does one better: for him, property is actually sacred, the sine qua non of his worship, which is to say, of his life. The libertarian is also deeply concerned that the social unit, the individual, be thought of as inviolable, sacrosanct. Here we have a difference with our Aryan, who could not have understood the particular man apart from the family. But put the family in place of our modern individual, and the categories match up hip and thigh, chapter and verse: the family cannot under any circumstances be intruded upon, and has absolute sovereignty within its bounds. >NRx are the guys who support absolute monarchism and hate the Enlightenment. I'll contest the "absolute monarchy"--at least, the first part of that, because they mostly support "traditionalism" in their own way... not always absolute monarchy. Take it from me. For example, that blog also contests Filmer. Only the "neoabsolutists" praise Filmer, but they're not really monarchist imo. The rest of the NRx would probably contest this.
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>>9589 I should also note that while "neoabsolutists" make Filmer one of their intellectuals, they also have Jouvenel who was anti-absolutist and more libertarian-leaning. They also don't really buy into the royal monarchy thing like the oldschool absolutists did, although maybe a few of their followers would... but the big brain "neoabsolutists" kinda dropped the monarchy thing. The "neoabsolutist" are just one branch of the NRx spectrum. NRx generally refers to the bloggers, like anons say like Moldbug, or some youtubers like The Distributist and Truediltom I noticed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6LUjUbikkk I don't read NRx blogs or content that much. I just know their kind of animal when I see one.
>>9589 I can kind of sympathize with the complaints about the family being harmed to an extent by these mass-organizations but as far as mandatory youth duties go, the Hitler Youth was about as benign as it got. Group activities, physical training, going into Nature, helping the community, etc. Being inculcated with NatSoc ideology is about the best thing that could happen to your kids faced with the alternatives (Bolshevik youth leagues, etc, modern public education). It would be healthier for the nation in the long run. Makes me wonder if true paternal authority can be restored within the modern state. It seems like it has to crack them to an extent (even if not to the extent of today, though, where it is dissolving), otherwise we'll be left with tight-knit clans and not a unified Reich. There are costs and benefits to either approach.
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>>9592 The paternal authority in Filmer's terms is that the royal monarch is the public father, and that the paternal authority is transferred and never dissolved. It is more like an enlarged family when all exist in cohesion with a greater whole of a state rather than partiality, as DPRK states in their Juche doctrine--that they value the family unit, but they also value comradeship more--however, using the Leader as a great father, they seek to make each comrade like one of the family... This I believe reinforces, not diminish, this view. As Aristotle states, that a state comes prior to the individual and the family, the whole. But that a state is composed of households (which has the component of a family), you see, and then individuals. It is good to have things considered for the public good likewise for familial bond, but having a greater familial bond with a people as a whole is extremely valuable. ... I think the ancap blog complaining about muh centralized paternal monarchy diminishing the private families authority is bollocks. Loyalty to the great patriarch of a nation reinforces order for the great household. The Shinto book you mentioned earlier, which also brought up Filmer, mentioned that they didn't have the same conflict like Confucianism did between familial loyalty and loyalty to an emperor. In Filmer's account, the greater father embodying the whole--takes subordinate fathers to bring order. It doesn't run contrary to true paternal authority to make the whole like a greater extended family. The ancap blogger opposes this for obvious reasons.
>>9594 Hmm you've got a good point there with the Leader as a sort of "father of the nation". I've read that same thing by Aristotle who says that the state is prior to the individual, but I'm not sure if I can really buy that that is an actual thing. Humans are of course social animals who thrive in groups and can form higher, more complex associations, but it seems more like the higher grow out of the lower. It's like a unicellular organism evolving gradually into a complex multicellular one. Since I'm a big Social Darwinist-fag, these complex associations have obviously proven themselves superior in preserving the group and in crushing smaller, less complex groups (shitskin natives, etc), so it's either adopt to these models or perish. But since I don't really share Aristotle's teleological view, I can't really accept that the state is prior to the individual, not that I think that the atomized individual is a natural existence, it's clearly not.
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>>9595 >I've read that same thing by Aristotle who says that the state is prior to the individual, but I'm not sure if I can really buy that that is an actual thing. Aristotle takes a human hand, for example, the first demonstration of body-politic. A hand, as we know it, cannot exist without a larger body. We know no hand, not attached to the rest of a body... like how you wouldn't be entirely human also if you were born without hands... or born with just a hand. >Hmm you've got a good point there with the Leader as a sort of "father of the nation" That is the idea. Bossuet really reinforces this, which is about as far as you can go from that blog. The blogger obviously doesn't want a "father of the nation" or a grand royal monarchy where the monarch is the great patriarch of a united household... Take fascist doctrine itself, and their statement on individualism... The individual is fulfilled in tandem with the interest of the collective, and together as a whole--contributing to the whole--they become a stronger body-politic, stronger arms, stronger legs, stronger head. Joining together rather than dismembered. Juche also re-affirms the vital balance between the Leader and social organ of their party leadership, and emphasize their leaders as paternal for this reason--not to destroy the family unit--but to preserve it in harmony with the collective, as the individual in the family finds refuge--so does a family find strength for their good in a much greater family binding together the whole.
>>9596 See, I feel like when something like "the whole is prior" is said, it's saying that in a sense that the part presupposes the existence of the whole, which is of course in his mind the polis / city-state, but I think we can just say "state" just as fine. Aristotle viewed the state in that sense as the completion or end towards which the others existed, and the state existed for the sake of the good life or whatever. What I don't think is true is that families, villages or whatever exist for the sake of or presupposing some predestined final form that they are supposed to grow into. The state grows up out of cooperative activity, subjugation of some groups by others, and the division of labor, but I'd dispute that it's some sort of teleological end. >Juche Check out this site if you don't know about it or if I haven't linked it to you before http://www.korean-books.com.kp/en/search/?page=book&keyword=juche
>>9596 This is off topic but, could National Socialism and monarchism ever work together.
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>>9598 A hand is certainly there for the purpose of feeding the entire body. It's great when you drink water and it nourishes the whole body. It's great when the whole body gets strengthened. The whole jib with "decentralization" and "centralization" as the anarchists complain about is deeply in error--a body without a center, and likewise a body without its parts is no good... The family exists to serve the greater body-politic. It helps in co-ordination as a unit, like you say, and having a healthy body makes great for a family... imagine having your family live in a terrible community, a bad neighborhood. It's better for a family to have a greater body around them, that makes an environment where a family could thrive. The village and family exist for the sake of the broader community like the mouth and hands exist for each other, like I said--to feed the body. >>9599 In a practical sense, no. Royals today wouldn't allow it, and natsocs would contest it too. Many royalists hate national socialism. I guess there are some potentially mutual ideas, though... but you need an unorthodox view of monarchy by royalist standards like I have been saying.
>>9598 Okay, anon, let me throw you something. Many natsocs refer to their race like an extended family. What about this point of view? That if the family doesn't exist for the purpose of a healthy racial society like most natsocs propose, that a family would have hard times.
>>9599 The only way you can get a monarchy and NS state is if the royalists are willing to work and promote the cause and beliefs of National Socialism under a crown.
>>9604 *and the royal, very important, but many royals... are definitely far from any natsoc ideal. >under a crown. Not under a crown, but a great person. This is my problem with royalists--they forget that it is about being personal rather than just institutional... The personal power.
>>9605 A large number of royalist did support NS in th early 1920s, but I think that was only because that German monarchist party in Weimar had lost or were losing the election. >Not under a crown, but a great person. This is my problem with royalists--they forget that it is about being personal rather than just institutional... The personal power. Royalists now act more as oligarchs, which is why they don't care for personal power very much.
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>>9607 That's pretty much my problem with NRx and the conservative trads. It's more about "tradism" than monarchy, really, in those circles, and being conservatives in a general sense.
>>9600 What I'll agree exists by nature is a natural division of labor between men and women, and hierarchy between them and then hierarchy inbetween men. That's the most basic society that one can have. There's no real "body" here, there's kind of a natural conglomeration of closely related kin groups but no division of labor as we'd find in a "body". Basically, for there to be hands or brains at all, someone has to force or induce others to serve as a "hand". Now I'm not decrying this or anything, it has to happen, and might makes right. Besides that we basically agree.
>>9617 That's the whole fascist ideology, that the body is stronger united, together, a corporate strength, corporate meaning "body", that sticks together are stronger than sticks apart. A bee hive has all kin, but one hive, like a royal has one great household (because royal rule is household rule). They are like one body working together to sustain their hive. >That's the most basic society that one can have. There's no real "body" here, there's kind of a natural conglomeration of closely related kin groups but no division of labor as we'd find in a "body" It is a household.
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>>9599 no 1) any sort of system of leadership and rule that doesn't receive fresh blood from its lower classes eventually grows distant from the struggle of the common people, it's not surprising that communist revolutions happened first in monarchies (the october revolution, the german revolution, soviet hungary...) every monarch brought their own destruction by being as distant to their people as foreigners and refusing to adapt with time by giving the rights that their people wanted 2) from its very conception fascism has been anti-monarchist, first because of its left-wing syndicalist/socialist origins, second hierarchies in fascism aren't supposed to be based on things like the ruler and the ruled, the slave and the slave master, but one where each one understands where he is best suited for his abilities, the concept of royals go against what both hitler and mussolini were trying to build, a unified nation of equals 3) the fascist movement should not ever trust monarchs, they betrayed us multiple times, the romanian and italian coup, if we ever get to power in a monarchy the monarchs must go
>>9619 Yeah, but Mussolini broke away from his socialist ideals, he was very sympathetic to monarchism and wanted to rule like a king rather than a dictator. Hitler, NS, and other fascist didn't believe in the concept that everyone is equal under the state like socialist do, but rather that the ideas of Prussian socialism that everyone either becomes equally strong or the strong thrives over the weak. Fascism wasn't agaisnt monarchism as a whole and some of the royalist were willing to work with the fascist to stop liberalism and communism from taking over the western world.
>>9633 Here is the confusion, anon. Monarchy =/= just royalty If you had two kings, it would be diarchy, and monarchists usually oppose diarchy (as a form of oligarchy, as Bodin stated). The Diarchy in Mussolini's time was not a monarchist ideal, per say, but I guess it flatters us. Monarchy is more like... "Let there be ONE RULER, ONE KING!" That wouldn't matter whether it be King Victor Emmanuel III or Mussolini, but that's the idea! I've already stated all my problems with royalists and how even socialists make better than monarchists than them >>4315 in this thread. Am I opposed to the royalism? No, but I want royal monarchy, not a kind of royal oligarchy or many royals or whatever--but "let there be one ruler, one king!" I'd say that fascists would be disappointed if they went to places like r/monarchism or Society of Royalists where a great deal of anti-fascists are, or even /monarchy/ where many are more /liberty/-flavored in their views. I've met many anti-fascists in royalist LARPer circles. I think fascists would be better off not flirting with royals, but they could use their own brand to their advantage? (if you really value that). Just make one of your leaders the "royal", and keep the leader name--it is far better to be a king in all but name in this world. You'll find that many of these royalists will completely disappoint you.
>>9636 >Here is the confusion, anon. Monarchy =/= just royalty I already know that they have difference, the thing here is that the royalists who worked with the fascist knew that monarchism was becoming too oligarichal, this why the Italian royals supported Mussolini and had hoped he would become one ruler along with Mussolini connections and relationship with the previous king. It's quite obvious that the royalist in the modern era aren't the same as they were before, because they care less about true monarchism and more about being rich. Fascism of itself is heavily inspired by monarchism, (Napeleon).
>>9619 >a unified nation of equals This is a fiction.
>>9619 Go away lolberg
>>9643 >>9645 >NRx goon calling other people lolberts NRx ranks are teaming with crypto-lolberts.
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>>9633 He did to maintain power, but that came at the cost that italian fascism had to surrender many of its characteristics, but thise came back at full force in the social republic, it's like hitler tell us in mein kampf, union with different parties may bring quick advantages but it dilutes the original movement >Fascism wasn't agaisnt monarchism as a whole and some of the royalist were willing to work with the fascist to stop liberalism and communism from taking over the western world. they weren't lol, they quickly surrendered the moment things weren't so great, the one who did would rather abandon his duties for pussy and wilhelm was very critic of the nsdap before 1933 >>9640 Im not talking about equal wealth, or no hierarchies, but one where the concept of social class was destroyed, the best way to completely kill marxism, read hitler's revolution
>>9649 Destroying social classes would be instituting Marxism. The idea of a Volksgemeinschaft was to end tensions between classes and make a more cooperative German nation.
>>9659 That's what i mean dude, ending the concept not the actual hierarchies
>>9661 Ending the concept of social class is ending hiearchies are you retarded?
What you advocate is to hide the distinction between rich, middle and poor and that they're all of the same blood no matter their wealth or background. To end the concept is eliminate the idea of rich and poor existing thus Marxism. To have a rich man acknowledge a poor man as an equal is continuing a hiearchy, but the rich does not see a poor man as poor, but as a fellow man who happens to be poor.
>>9667 Yeah
>>9667 >rich Vast majority of people rich today are so because of jewish capitalism that doesn't reward the honest, hardworking and smart but the most treacherous and parasitic. This is not just a concept that has to be and will be ended, one way or the other, it's an absolute pre-requisite for the true fascist society if it has any aspiration to restore the natural order instead of a new parasitocraty that have under different already plagued us for so long.
>>9670 Whatever is done, the system to replace Jewish capitalism must make it so that a true elite rules. The biggest problem in our society today is that money is seen to be the ultimate mark of success or failure. Those with more money are not necessarily the true elite. True hierarchy is natural, obviously, and only a kike would want to abolish it, but the problems of atomization and egoistic self-interestedness brought about by Jewish capitalism have contributed to the disintegration of all social bonds
>>9670 >Vast majority of people rich today are so because of jewish capitalism that doesn't reward the honest, hardworking and smart And yet Hitler still allowed the ones who were loyal and didn't fuck up shit to stay rich, so I don't see the problem with making those rich off of "Jewish capitalism" to work twice as hard and only work for fascism. The only rich that should be eliminated are those who are Jewish or not of our race and idealology period. >This is not just a concept that has to be and will be ended, one way or the other, it's an absolute pre-requisite for the true fascist society You sound like a syndicalist, fascism is not agaisnt social classes not hearchies, the problem is either a Jewish capitalism and judaism as whole or class system which one is it, buddy? >restore the natural order instead of a new parasitocraty that have under different already plagued us for so long. The natural order supports social classes, the rich should be enforced and re-educated to fall in line, otherwise they will kicked or eliminated out. Ridding the "concept" is pointless.
>>9671 >Those with more money are not necessarily the true elite. True hierarchy is natural What I meant, 90 percent of the rich have inherited their money or/and gotten it from stocks which is just anohter jewish scam. >>9673 >And yet Hitler still allowed the ones who were loyal and didn't fuck up shit to stay rich, so I don't see the problem with making those rich off of "Jewish capitalism" to work twice as hard and only work for fascism. He didn't like doing that but it was a political nescessity at that time, national socialism had to consolidate so while not as bad as before cronyism was still quite a problem in germany with many people climbing in the hierarchy who shouldn't have; that hurt the movement in the long run. That being said, rich then was not the same as rich today, rich as in filthy billionaire scum that thrives on the blood of his literal serfs. Let's face it, if somebody worked his ass off 24/7, was supersmart and a gifted salesperson he would still not make more than a couple of millions in his lifetime assuming no use of jewish tricks, like usury and stocks. Having some millions is not what I would call obscene. >The only rich that should be eliminated are those who are Jewish or not of our race and idealology period Most billionairs in the US are jewish, 9 in 10 I believe so that's easy. Kidding aside, it depends, if he created his wealth on the sweat, blood and bones of his kin I'd treat him the same as i treat a murderer, worse actually since being a parasite to his own people is treason in its truest form. I'm just with Codreanu here who said if confronted with both an enemy and a traitor and he had only one bullet left he'd always kill the traitor. >You sound like a syndicalist, fascism is not agaisnt social classes not hearchies, the problem is either a Jewish capitalism and judaism as whole or class system which one is it, buddy? i meant that either we or the communists will deal with the problem. Fascism is not against social classes, true, but the social classes we have right now are artifical, it's not a true meritocracy and the people at the top are there for all the wrong reasons. If we allow natural selection to take place a better a true and real elite will form over time. However it wont be an elite where 1% owns literally everything, such an elite wont be accepted meaning people will live in classes but the upper class wont be as detached as the one we have now. It wont be hereditary either, who accepts someone just because he was born rich, is the grand grand son of someone with a noble name? The natural order demands that people have to prove themselves time and again like the alpha of a wolfpack. Such an elite is fine and worthy and people will take no issue with it. >Ridding the "concept" is pointless. As long as we haven't restored a natural elite and the conditions to keep it in that state, I dont think so.
>>9674 Does bullying need to be installed into this society (on the lower classes)?
In regards to the discussion about elite and classes, I should remind you that the SS was planned to be a sort of new aristocracy that would rule over the reich (or at least its eastern frontiers) after the war, perhaps inspired by Nietzsche's ideas. This is why only men with specific physical features could join it.
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>>9686 Yeah, it was only the Allgemeine SS that was intended to be an elite, right? I read in Table Talk that Hitler expected that within a century every leader of the Reich would likely come out of the SS. Savitri Devi quotes some people to show just how strict they were in admittance. Pics related, it's sad that we never saw how it developed.
>>9690 I have yet to read Table Talks but I mainly remember hearing it in this documentary series, which I think is of very high quality. https://youtu.be/7BsgACPTOYE
>>9690 Wow they were fucking strict all right. But I don't get the grenade-on-helmet. How can you balance a grenade on your head?
>>9692 That was the only thing that stretched credibility to me. I will have to look and see if I can find the book that Savitri Devi is referencing here, 'L'agonie de l'Allemagne' by Georges Blond. Wikipedia has an entry on him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Blond >>9691 Table Talks is pretty good, especially where Hitler talks about Christianity.
>>9692 >I don't get the grenade-on-helmet. How can you balance a grenade on your head? The Wehrmacht helmets were somewhat flat up top and perhaps it could be done with an M24 grenade, it's cylindrical after all. It doesnt matter tho since the story's bullshit. I witnessed a demonstration in the army where they placed one (sic!) gram of HE under a helmet and detonated it (perhaps it was even just the detonator, dont remember). It flew 50 feet into the air, no way you can explode 300 grams HE on your head and keep your head. I've heard that story before but it's impossible. Maybe it developed from someone putting an exercise grenade on his top but even that sounds implausible to me.
>>9693 >Table Talks is pretty good, especially where Hitler talks about Christianity. It's one of many books on my backlog so I will certainly read it in the near future. But I have read a few segments on religion from it. 'The Young Hitler I Knew' by August Kubizek is also a good book to get a more personal insight into Hitler.
>>9695 Kubizek's book was great, I agree. I picked that one up originally due to how much Savitri Devi referenced it in her Lightning and the Sun. I thought it was fascinating that even so long before his involvement in politics that he lived an almost monk-like existence, avoided degeneracy and was already redpilled on nearly everything. My favorite part was what happened that one night when Hitler saw Rienzi, I don't know what the fuck happened there: http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Copy/hitlerprophetwagner.htm
>>9696 Yeah, I remember there was a segment where some milf that was barely clothed tried to seduce him and he ran away together with Kubizek. It was a great book. The one part that stuck with me to this day (I read it around 5 years ago) was the chapter where Kubizek described Hitler spending Christmas alone after his mother's death.
>>9699 There's was another funny part where Hitler and Kubizek ran into some man who wanted them to come over some day and mentioned that women were gold-diggers. He gave them a card and Hitler explained to Kubizek that this dude was a fag and he burned the card. I need to read more of the memoirs people wrote on Hitler. Gives a different picture for sure.
>>9704 So what was the card for?
>>9753 It didn’t say, but the fag wanted them to come visit him in the hotel and wrote an invitation on the card
>>9696 >>9704 >>9754 How many women did Hitler meet for his live, besides Eva Braun ? Since Hitler is most demonized political person in the world and (((allied powers))) claimed that he was "homo-pedo-one egg rapist", when his inner circle claimed that he practice a "ascetic and monk" lifestyle, it's very important to know the full truth about his personal life.
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>>9777 Well, I haven't read many of the other memoirs yet (though I do own Heinrich Hoffmann's so maybe I can reference that here later), but in Kubizek's book he claims that Hitler was infatuated with a girl named Stefanie. Kubizek claims that Hitler really liked her, but he was just too shy to approach her. There's one part in the book where Hitler was said to contemplate kidnapping Stefanie and committing suicide by jumping off a bridge together. There's some debate over the story though. Kubizek is the only source, and some have suggested that Hitler's interest was exaggerated, but it did happen that this girl actually existed, and her name was Stefanie Isak. Kikes like to claim that this is a suspiciously looking Jewish name, but she wasn't Jewish and the mainstream sources even admit this.
>>9777 >>9781 I'd like to add that the infatuation described by Kubizek was so strong that it could be that Hitler never really got over her and that is why he decided to stay alone for most of his life. As Kubizek wrote that Stefanie was essentially the perfect woman in Hitler's eyes and that he would still talk of her years later. He suffered from what some online like to call 'oneitis'. And yes, there is zero evidence for her having been Jewish or else, I'm sure Kubizek would have mentioned it. In fact, I remember she was visited after the war according to the book (I don't remember if it was Kubizek or someone else) to be asked some questions about Hitler. If she was Jewish, she would not have stayed in that part of Europe most likely. As for the one-ball thing, I think that rumor started because of a popular song among British soldiers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_Has_Only_Got_One_Ball) and was adopted as a propaganda tactic to smear Hitler even more later on. It's the same shit as people to this day remembering Napoleon for supposedly being very short, when in reality he was average height for his time, because of British propaganda from that era. Repeat a lie long enough and it becomes the truth.
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>>9791 I hadn't thought of that before, but it's definitely possible that Hitler could have gotten a case of oneitis. I think he had the type of personality that is somewhat susceptible to that. From what I have read about Hitler, he was a quiet and captivating man, but one that could quickly become passionate about something that he cared about. He was also one that didn't like to compromise. The fact that so much slander and lies surround the character of Hitler is all the proof I need (esp. when paired with statements from people around him that are completely to the contrary) that he was one of those rare men that only appear every few hundred years. They've said he had one testicle, that he was a meth addict, that he chewed on the edges of carpets, that he committed incest with his niece, that he was a coprophiliac, a homosexual, etc. Only a Jew would kick up this much of a tantrum. I eagerly await the day that the true Hitler is revealed to the world, the one who deeply loved his people, innocent animals and children; and the Hitler who told his people never to despair and to fight for a healthier more beautiful world free from the grip of Jewish parasites.
>>9807 To see the truth in Hitler is to have the whole world (Whites and non-Whites ) to accept the truth by realising what the likes have been doing
>>9807 Good post, you really can't think of anyone else in history whose face and name is burned in the minds of people all across the world except for the founders of major religions like Jesus or Buddha. But there is no one else whose name can strike fear into the hearts of his enemies nearly a century after his death. From that perspective, Esteroric Hitlerism doesn't seem that outlandish of a movement, the amount of attention Hitler has received since his rise to power must be similar to what the founders of major religions received in their respective eras.
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>>9817 I hate to give this comparison, but I can only think of how Christianity was treated by the Romans following Jesus' crucifixion. Those few who have retained their faith in Hitler and his vision are demonized, hated, arrested, assaulted and killed even. He's the devil of the post-war world. The major difference, though, is that for we who have realized that Hitler was right, we aren't content with being meek, or waiting for Hitler to return, for praying or turning the other cheek. His view of the world remains true, and will remain so eternally, and that is enough.
>>9221 >none of them should be referred to as "le based" or have any form of admiration. Then you're stupid or dishonest. The overall mentality in Islam is one of conquest and community bonding. If basically all the YHWH-fagging, Semitic lore, sandniggerish customs and superstitions could be removed and swapped for deistic White Aryan ones, with a pinch of solar pride instead of calls to bow before God, we'd have a seriously brutal religious weapon in our hands. >>9246 >Christanity is the same way, it's not a hippie loving religion either, Christian have their own version of killing and torturing those who are against them and/or sin Certainly not presented in the same way; most of the judging is defaulted towards God. It's also conspicuously contradictory on morality, as explained by >>9250 for example. >This muh christianity is a loving religion is a meme from morons misunderstanding the bible. Cope again. It's certainly more than a meme, it's a conclusion attained by people who have read this bible through and thorough, especially since it became kosher to read it (remember, it was formerly forbidden to read it, whereas kikes forbid goyim, not their own people, from reading Jewish scriptures). Should make you think. >Only leftists believe this Christian, I... >Christians are not afraid of slaughtering and beating the living shit out of people otherwise you would have to explain the Crusades and the native European genocide. That's called a dysfunctional compass. Simply put, people walked into churches, accepted the local faggot's sermons, then walked out of them and remembered their Aryan ways which are far more logical. You could call that hypocrisy or schizophrenia. One way or another, it is certainly not healthy for our people's minds. >Also Islam being violent, war does not equal good The entire universe has been created on the principle of competition and rewards, the former often times taking the shape of war against outer and inner enemies, against ignorance, lies, heresies, degeneracy, poisons and weaknesses. War also is a trial to measure a people's will and ability to survive and a path for people to reach glory and treasures higher than horses, gems and gold. You may not seek war, but when war comes, it is always warranted. There is no unjust war. It is eventually up to you to maintain conditions that reduce the birth of wars to a minimum. If corruption and weakness kick in, a war will happen. It is a symptom of a suffering body that is never wrong. That is a very unpopular opinion though. >Islam is violent for their sake It's violent for the sake of what is described as holy and true. We can't really blame it here. >while sandniggers find that dying for Allah is the only and greatest thing you can do. Since God made the universe and all about it is struggle, strife, war, competition, you name it, then fighting and dying for God is perhaps the highest form of dedication to the prime rule of his Creation, in accord with the Laws of Nature that regulate this entire realm we happen to live in. To fight and survive. The issue in Islam is that the submission aspect is made prevalent, both because it has inherited the backbone of a religion developed around the fear of a jealous and petty god, and also because sandniggers need this to be tamed and coalesced into some form of coherent force. This is niggerish but they're more vicious than niggers, who are plain brutish. But Aryans don't need this. Wherever you go, all our myths dealt with war in a much more open and honest way, without the decrepit and sickening sugar coating of Christianity, or the lowbrow, curbstomping crawl-on-a-rug Islamic approach. >And their spiritualities are fucking garbage, what the fuck do you mean physical and spiritual? Starting, at the very least, with the two degrees of Jihad. Eh, on a different note, that bible also says, "Gentile gods are devils/idols", doesn't it? I could feel insulted here.
>>9507 As if Jews were not degenerates before that. Hadrian didn't throw a fit simply because he enjoyed Middle Eastern olive oil. >>9561 >Gypsies Because they're a cheap knock-off of Jews for the most part, at least the dirty and tanned ones. Indians at least had Aryans to lead them and provide the basis of a sane religious system, now largely left in shambles but still radiating somehow, whereas Gypsies are in many ways cockroaches, and god knows what kind of "spirituality" these things have for themselves beyond those that are mostly reduced to degenerate forms of distant Eastern practices. The inbreeding is equally high on average. The White ones, a small minority, OTOH, could easily be extracted from their communities and assuming a modicum of brainwashing cultural accommodation, they could fit in at the lower levels of society. >>9586 The monarchy they'd support would not be beyond criticism. Starting with trying to pretend working in the name of God when most of kings and queens were zealously fighting over who was the greatest defender of Yahweh's new universal cult. >>9589 >Zeroth's article I remember reading it and it's still quite informative. >>After months of intensive study and innumerable conversations with representative Nazis, high and low in the Party scale, I am convinced that the ‘Old Guard,’ at any rate, are for the most part, fanatical zealots. If the Nazi thesis were a dialectic screen hiding mere lust for power and pelf, it would never have converted so large a portion of the traditionally honest, idealistic German people. If the Nazi leaders were just a band of cynical adventurers, with tongue in cheek and wholly ‘on the make,’ it would be far easier to deal with them.” >“Another noteworthy point is that the Government made no attempt to ease the people into the war by tactful stages. Quite the reverse. Nazi spokesmen tell you frankly that they cracked down hard from the start and made things just about as tough as the civilian population could bear. Indeed, they say that severe rationing of food and clothing from the very beginning was done not merely to avert present waste and ensure future supplies; it was done also to make people realize that they were in a life-and-death struggle for which no sacrifice was too great.” Pure Chad, no romanticism. >“The average German seems disinclined to talk much to the foreign visitor about this oppressed minority. However, I gathered that the general public does not approve of the violence and cruelty which Jews have suffered. But I also got the impression that, while the average German condemned such methods, he was not unwilling to see the Jews go and would not wish them back again. I personally remember how widespread anti-Semitism was under the Empire, and I encountered it in far more noticeable form when I was in Germany during the inflation period of 1923. The Nazis therefore seem to have had a popular predisposition to work on when they preached their extreme anti-Semitic doctrines.” Good news! We do too. >The Third Reich was indeed a dictatorship, and there is nothing wrong with that in and of itself. The article even revealed something which might prove to have been the undoing of the NatSoc canvas: >>“The new trend [of military fraternization between classes] is due to two causes. In the first place, it is part of the Nazi philosophy to break down class and caste distinctions, and weld the whole nation into a conscious Gemeinschaft—an almost mystical communion, as contrasted with the rest of the world. In such a socialized nationhood, the traditional caste barriers, first between officers and soldiers, secondly between army and civilians, are obviously out of line. The present German army is undoubtedly more of a Volksheer—a People’s Army, than it ever was before. This new tendency is also furthered by the fact that with better education, specialization, and technical training of the rank-and-file, officers and men are more nearly on the same plane. The old Imperial Army, unmechanized and made up so largely of peasant lads commanded by Junker squires, was a vastly different institution.” This, unfortunately, is a form of egalitarianism to assuage the masses.
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>>9872 >deistic White Aryan ones, with a pinch of solar pride instead of calls to bow before God, we'd have a seriously brutal religious weapon in our hands. I've been thinking along the same lines. It's not just an untapped goldmine, I think it's also closest to the truth given everything that I can discern in the world around us. Our world is a world of struggle, of competition - much like you say. The problem with nearly all major world religions today is that they deny or downplay the Laws of Nature. They deny struggle, they cringe before suffering, before life, they play down inequality, etc - all those readily tangible and discernible facts of the world around them. And the reason that they downplay these things is because they choose not to see them. Nietzsche is correct when says how much one's own prejudices and life-experiences color their view on what they see as "truth" or "reality". The day Whites really begin to take the precept that "Any religion or teaching which denies the Natural Laws of the Universe is false." is the day we return to a vigorous healthy outlook on life. The weakling fears sublime Nature, while the Aryan rejoices, not wanting it to be any other way.
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>>9872 >Certainly not presented in the same way; most of the judging is defaulted towards God. It's also conspicuously contradictory on morality, as explained by >>9250 for example. In other words it's no different than Islam >Cope Kill yourself you stupid cuckchan faggot, learn to use words for what they are instead of being a low IQ sperg mutt. > t's certainly more than a meme, it's a conclusion attained by people who have read this bible through and thorough, especially since it became kosher to read it (remember, it was formerly forbidden to read it, whereas kikes forbid goyim, not their own people, from reading Jewish scriptures). Should make you think. What the fuck are you on about? The bible and christcucks only love those who are a part of their religion and preach their spiritualities, Christcucks hate outsiders and are against tolerance of those who do not accept their God. Christcucks today are like this because the church and protestants have fucked over their moronic spiritualities. >Christian, I... NIce assumption, retard, I'm not a christcuck and you should learn to how refute your point, because the only ones who believe that Christanity is peaceful and tolerant are leftoids who want to be Christian, just like they do with paganism and Hinduism. >That's called a dysfunctional compass. Simply put, people walked into churches, accepted the local faggot's sermons, then walked out of them and remembered their Aryan ways which are far more logical. You could call that hypocrisy or schizophrenia. >Not even a good excuse No, it's because they wanted to eliminate those who oppose and spoke against the values of Christcuckery or in other words they did their own form of "might is right" which in their view means to rid of those who aren't like them, which they almost fucking did. >The entire universe has been created on the principle of competition and rewards, the former often times taking the shape of war against outer and inner enemies, against ignorance, lies, heresies, degeneracy, poisons and weaknesses. War also is a trial to measure a people's will and ability to survive and a path for people to reach glory and treasures higher than horses, gems and gold. You may not seek war, but when war comes, it is always warranted. There is no unjust war. It is eventually up to you to maintain conditions that reduce the birth of wars to a minimum. If corruption and weakness kick in, a war will happen. It is a symptom of a suffering body that is never wrong. That is a very unpopular opinion though. >All this nonsense and can't just get the fucking point I'm making Hey retard what I meant by this is that Islam being violent does not mean it's le based and redpilled. It's still shit and their reasons for violence is not different than the Jews. >It's violent for the sake of what is described as holy and true. We can't really blame it here. There is nothing holy or true, you're retarded, Islam does this shit so they can shill and keep their inbred retards in line from betraying the Arabic rule. Islam couldn't give shit about what's holy because their rulers and spiritualities are most certainly nothing "holy". >Yadda Yadda Yadda retardation retardation retardation Fucking faggot, Islam is against the laws of nature shut the fuck up. >starting, at the very least, with the two degrees of Jihad. <Muh based jihad I feel liking I'm talking to image related
>>9592 >Makes me wonder if true paternal authority can be restored within the modern state. It seems like it has to crack them to an extent (even if not to the extent of today, though, where it is dissolving), otherwise we'll be left with tight-knit clans and not a unified Reich. There are costs and benefits to either approach. This is a fair concern. Some balance has to be found. The thing with NSists is that they went fast about it. Jews operate over several generations in our Western societies. In comparison, when they went about it faster than NS in Russia, it was terrible and the system collapsed too fast to be worthy of praise or preservation. Several Jews dully noted that they needed to take their time. But if war comes, changes will come in fast although it's unclear for how long fathers will regain complete authority before a new government progressively forms and decides to push a new vision for society onto their children. >>9594 Yet it did surprise a lot of people to see how nothing was left of NS once Germany was defeated, as if the whole thing was an artificial front end that the people never really made theirs (I would not say "that they never bought into" because it would be false). That might due to a true issue about organic power not properly starting from the household. Therefore, a correction would take the form of really putting the emphasis on having each household becoming a little kingdom bound on emulating the greater kingdom, and finding a good balance between an iron grip and gentleness. A legitimate leader would easily obtain more attention so this would help a lot too. >>9595 >State before groups of individuals I don't buy it either, simply because the state is a complex compound whereas the family is the most basic, enduring and biologically stable one. Both have their own strengths and weaknesses. >>9596 >A hand, as we know it, cannot exist without a larger body. We know no hand, not attached to the rest of a body... And there fails the analogy. A family can literally survive outside of, and without, the greater body. >>9598 >I'd dispute that it's some sort of teleological end Who knows? If viewed from an evolutionist perspective, these small communities provide commodities and wealth that favor the rise of men of greater vision. Soon enough, a will emerges in wanting a greater unity. Not that this emerging phenomena is literally wanted by the smaller units, but it seems to be a naturalistic evolution where the imperial model is called to literally feed on, or assimilate, the smaller units into a greater whole. The Imperial principle might exist for itself and finds shapes in both sane and corrupt expressions. An example of the latter would be capitalism and corporation-trusting. So much that a leftists reading of this principle would warrant the saying that imperialism is a cancer which sole purpose is growth for its own sake.
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>>9876 >Muh based jihad They're absolutely based though. We should be asking ourselves how we can get Whites to adopt this kind of mindset, a mindset where nothing daunts them, a mindset where they won't even blink at blowing themselves into bits in pursuit of their goals. Or if you don't like comparisons with Islam, Kamikaze pilots are another admirable example to look at.
>>9879 The kamikaze pilots are one of the reasons why they lost against America. To be slain or sacrificed yourself for a White state is fine, but randomly blowing yourself up or kill yourself for muh Islam is retarded. A warrior should sacrificed himself for a great cause if it actually changes things for the better. The kamikaze sacrificed themselves and ended up losing the war. And Jihadist just pointless kill themselves because of how ignorant they are. There is nothing based about a pointless death.
>>9880 >The kamikaze pilots are one of the reasons why they lost against America I don't know about that. Officially organized Kamikaze units were only put together in late 1944 as far as I understand it, and at this time it was only because they were already in a bad place that they started to advocate for the use of such tactics against the enemy. By then the Imperial Navy was crippled and the air force was dwindling rapidly, and Kamikaze attacks had a lot of obvious advantages, since it allowed men with little training and lots of zeal to potentially damage and destroy almost any kind of sea craft if they were able to hit the target. That's why as the war goes on we get cheaper and cheaper planes to carry out these attacks with, like the Ohka. Luckily for the Japanese there were tons of young men who were quite ready to step up for the cause. I'm not even saying that Whites should hop in plains and commit kamikaze attacks, I'm more referring to the spirit of these men, who are willing to sacrifice it all for their nation, and willingly so. The famous Yamato-damashii is what Whites need a dose of about now. > To be slain or sacrificed yourself for a White state is fine, but randomly blowing yourself up or kill yourself for muh Islam is retarded Obviously. I do not praise these things for the reasons that they choose to do them, otherwise I would not be posting here on /fascist/, but in praise of the spirit, or the means they use.
>>9600 >Royals today wouldn't allow it, and natsocs would contest it too. Many royalists hate national socialism. Royals are cucks, and royalists are just soft-right people with a hard on for a man with a cape and a scepter. Their current view that seems to heavily hinge around muh Catholicism widely forgets about the Lords and Kings of India, Persia, Egypt, Rome and a metric ton of other smaller realms, all totally pagan. So, when one objectively considers the Third Reich, it was extremely close to what one could call an unofficial monarchy, all the Reich, the Fuhrer (fully powered monarch), with two armies, one national and one elite coming so close to be an embodiment of venerable knights, all wrapped in a life-affirming religious order. What was missing? A crowning (which turned out to be a mischievous trick pulled by the Church on an unsuspecting Clovis)? Why should it happen anyway? Long hair? A claim to be of a noble descent? I'd find far more nobility in Hitler than in hundreds of "nobles" combined who just plainly suck, wide and flat. What makes a Capet superior to Hitler? >>9618 >bee hive A complicated analogy. It has castes, but beyond this, no unit inside can survive alone and they're all reduced to one task. It's almost one step above communism, only saved because of castes with a royal at the top. We could and should be careful with this comparison. >>9619 >any sort of system of leadership and rule that doesn't receive fresh blood from its lower classes eventually grows distant from the struggle of the common people, it's not surprising that communist revolutions happened first in monarchies (the october revolution, the german revolution, soviet hungary...) every monarch brought their own destruction by being as distant to their people as foreigners and refusing to adapt with time by giving the rights that their people wanted You must be forgetting how Jews needed to topple these leaders so they could push for the republics and democracies. The last thing they wanted were families with undisputed power. Monarchs were defeated simply because of that, not because the monarchy flew aloft, somewhat disconnected from the people. On the other hand, has there ever been a solution to the debate of nepotism vs meritocracy? >but one where each one understands where he is best suited for his abilities At monarchies' highest times, this is quite the model people were following. You had priests, soldiers, guilds of craftsmen, peasants, and the whole thing worked. >the concept of royals go against what both hitler and mussolini were trying to build, a unified nation of equals I'd like to see where in the core of their doctrines they really claimed a nation of equals. > the fascist movement should not ever trust monarchs, they betrayed us multiple times, the romanian and italian coup, if we ever get to power in a monarchy the monarchs must go If we were to take shortcuts like you did in point 1, I could say that fascism utterly failed to survive, but monarchy has existed for thousands of years in many places. Ditching monarchy because of a few bad apples isn't reasonable. >>9636 >The Diarchy in Mussolini's time was not a monarchist ideal, per say, but I guess it flatters us. Monarchy is more like... "Let there be ONE RULER, ONE KING!" You can have many kings under one king of kings, an emperor. >/monarchy/ I thought that board was nuked many months ago. What happened?
>>9882 >We could and should be careful with this comparison. Yes, I agree. I make beehive and ant colony comparisons myself, but we're obviously not wholly analogous to them. Bees are basically a superorganism in their own right according to some things I've read. Humans fall somewhere between more individualistic creatures and something like bees, I think. Bees are basically perfect altruists working for the communal good alone, while humans are imperfect altruists at best and completely selfish at worst. >I thought that board was nuked many months ago. What happened? /monarchy/ is now located here: https://8chan.moe/monarchy/ They moved there when /fascist/ briefly was located there before BO had it knocked into his head that it might be a bad idea after all. They also have a bunker here now too >>>/monarchy/
>>9661 You cannot end the concept of class, which is a lexical makeup of the concept of caste, more or less. What you can end is the divisive struggle that the Jew sows. >>9667 >"same blood" rhetoric Would not suffice on the long term. Cue the White trash phenomenon. There is definitely a hierarchy of souls even within a race. The existence of a Fuhrer pushed by Providence literally flies in the face of this form of leveled racial egalitarianism. The people should not see as a final state but a substance to mold so that the superior ones rise and, by their work and superior aptitudes, maintain the overall society's quality at higher altitudes. >>9670 Are you saying you want to end the concept of some people having more money than others? You're slated for pure disappoint, son. >>9673 >the rich should be enforced and re-educated to fall in line Vis. >>9674 >He didn't like doing that but it was a political nescessity at that time, national socialism had to consolidate so while not as bad as before cronyism was still quite a problem in germany with many people climbing in the hierarchy who shouldn't have; >that hurt the movement in the long run. The movement was never hurt by anything like that. It was hurt by traitors who cleverly hid their schemes, and by a union of Jewed international forces who dropped all pretense at disagreeing when it came to crush the first one big anti-Jewish goyim revolt that was on its way to dominate the world. But then Hitler seems to have said "I am not Him" or something, so maybe it was just a prelude and something new, better and greater, must reclaim this legacy and finish the job. >Let's face it, if somebody worked his ass off 24/7, was supersmart and a gifted salesperson he would still not make more than a couple of millions in his lifetime assuming no use of jewish tricks, like usury and stocks. Having some millions is not what I would call obscene. Stocks aren't exactly Jewish tricks either. Besides, is this example supposed to happen as of today, when a bunch of lucky nerds can shit an app that gets bought for half a billion plus shares from Google/Facebook/Microsoft/Amazon? > I'm just with Codreanu here who said if confronted with both an enemy and a traitor and he had only one bullet left he'd always kill the traitor. Yes, but make sure your definition of traitor is solid. Marxists would quickly push for a syndicalist-based reading and point fingers at people for the sheer fact that they actually own stuff. This Marxist mentality does manage to creep into Fascism too. Besides, some people who are true visionaries and who have wealth can sustain massive projects, including the construction of magnificent temples to be used by all the people. As the other anon said, and as Hitler wrote, as long as an individual's resources are used in a way that is not a threat to the community, or even better, in support of said community, then we're probably good. >It wont be hereditary either, What do you mean by that? I see no issue in a father giving his children his own possessions. I've lived in no less than two countries already where the government grabs a grotesque amount of wealth during the hereditary transfer of wealth within a family.
>>9677 >Does bullying need to be installed into this society (on the lower classes)? Why would you need that??? Aren't we supposed to help each other? Meritocracy does not mean winning by destroying your environment and competition here, it means achieving by your own merits and qualities, which in many ways will also depend on the people you surround yourself with. >>9690 >Extreme SS Bootcamp 2 >vril boogaloo Unironically too much? >>9694 Obviously it's complete rubbish. Devi wrote some truly weird shit that's borderline fan fiction (like the story of the SS officer she secretly met inawoods and who revealed they were preparing a new army and shit). Feels almost like she was the naive target of Nazi pranks. >>9696 >Nofapführer: >My Great Tulpa Of War Heil Incel! You needn't follow the exact same path. >>9807 >I hadn't thought of that before, but it's definitely possible that Hitler could have gotten a case of oneitis. A pity, I read a few days ago on the interwebs someone claiming that he was extremely picky when it came to the woman he would be with as he came to learn more about Braun. Or something like that. I wondered what would be the source of this idea. > They've said he had one testicle, that he was a meth addict, that he chewed on the edges of carpets, that he committed incest with his niece, that he was a coprophiliac, a homosexual, etc You forgot the biggest chutzpah-fueled lie of all: he was a Jew >>9817 Yes and imagine what will happen when the judencork will pop.
>>9876 OMG the stupidity of this one is at an all time high. Your knowledge of history is just as low as that of the religious books' contents (Bible or Quran). >>9880 >The kamikaze pilots are one of the reasons why they lost against America. You got that order wrong. They deployed the kamikaze in almost a desperate gamble because they were srsly pwnd by then. As for sandniggers blowing themselves up, it might appear far less strategical until you consider two outcomes: either you pick weapons to fight them, or you submit in fear after a repeated use of these shock tactics. All in all I still think it's a stupid strategy because in a normal world, we would have grabbed guns and kicked them out a long time ago, them and their handlers.
>>9889 >OMG the stupidity of this one is at an all time high. Your knowledge of history is just as low as that of the religious books' contents (Bible or Quran). I understand histroy you fucking faggot, how about coming up with an actual argument because I'm telling you that the Quran is fucking shit, because It's anti-nature, anti-Aryan, Judiac, has no concern for the natural order and practically is just the Arabic version of Christianity. It's a religion of Talmudic bullshit that seeks to make you submissive dysgenic faggot using ignorance to make you loyal rather than making one loyal because they understand the natural order. The Indo-Europeans or Aryan religions had might is right, because it was a core aspect of the laws of nature and that it's better to die in battle then live like a coward. Islam is only for violence when it threatens their faggy religion and questions their moronic ideas of what is holy, while the Indo-Europeans supported violence as more of a sport for fun. You don't need any of the abrahamists for inspiration, It's retarded to larp as a White jihadist. Quit being fucking queer or just convert to Islam and fuck off to /mudslime/.
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>>9932 It's embarrassing that you don't understand why people make comparisons to certain aspects of Islam, and it certainly isn't out of any desire to have people convert to anti-White religion.
>>9940 >It's embarrassing that you don't understand why people make comparisons to certain aspects of Islam, What aspects of Islam is accordant with the natural order, retard? Even Dharmanation agrees with my assessment that Islam is anti-nature and against the natural order.
>>9944 Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya has also said that everyone is compelled to follow the natural order to an extent, because to completely flaunt the laws of nature would lead to the complete extinction of your people or death of oneself. It's not black and White, it's a gradient. First, Islam is right about women. Cucks like to cry about this, but in the Dharmashastras were can read that women were treated about the same way as are meant to be under Islam, except when it comes to modesty, I'm not sure what they taught on that part, I will have to research. Women were under the legal guardianship of a man their entire lives, starting with their father, then her husband, and then her eldest sons if the husband died. Prabhupada spoke of this affirmatively as well. There's also plenty of evidence in ancient Greece that women were treated extremely harshly by modern day egalitarian standards. There have been books and academic papers written on how women in ancient Greece possibly wore veils in public or in the presence of strange men, and it is already well known that women had their own part of the house, the Gynaeceum that was separated from the male / common space, that was either a separate room for richer families or separated by a partition. Again, men outside of the kinship circle were not permitted to enter or to see them. Polygamy too, and this can be controversial, is totally inline with the natural order due to the hypergamous nature of women, and due to the different ways that the reproductive system work (men can impregnate multiple women and not have their "capacity" exhausted, while women's reproductive capacity can be satisfied by a single man). This is the biggest thing I can think of.I can of course praise (nominal) opposition to usury, faggotry, adultery, fornication and other forms of degeneracy, but I don't think I need to explain these to people here who are already redpilled on such matters I presume. Where Islam strays from the Natural Order is in its views on race, likely on its idea of linear time as opposed to the traditional cyclical model, its anthropocentric worldview and most likely in the idea of a personal god.
>>9948 >Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya has also said that everyone is compelled to follow the natural order to an extent, because to completely flaunt the laws of nature would lead to the complete extinction of your people or death of oneself. It's not black and White, it's a gradient. And islam does not do that you dumb monkey nigger. He said it himself, ISLAM IS ANTI-NATURE! You're just convincing me that you're a filthy mudslime or a mutt who can't comphrend a coherent point I'm making. > First, Islam is right about women. Cucks like to cry about this, but in the Dharmashastras were can read that women were treated about the same way as are meant to be under Islam Islam and every anti-wahmen idealolgy has also lead to men fucking each in the ass, the Ottoman Empire is an example of this. Every anti-wahmen movement ends up with femboy shit and the massive struggle with the denial that the hatred of women will not solve anything. Along with the denial that it was also certain (((men))) who fucked over the traditional family where women weren't whores and sluts, but proud of contributing to the nuclear family like they were before liberalism and the first World War kicked in. >Where Islam strays from the Natural Order is in its views on race, likely on its idea of linear time as opposed to the traditional cyclical model, its anthropocentric worldview and most likely in the idea of a personal god. <Yes Islam is so le ebin and redpilled, it's totally not shitty, because of how they create literal inbreds, will destroy environments for rapid urbanization due to dominion over nature bullshit, and see a nigger equal to a White man. I'm fucking done with this conversation you're too low IQ. And must be that mudshit that came on here shilling faggotry.
>>9949 >Islam and every anti-wahmen idealolgy has also lead to men fucking each in the ass, the Ottoman Empire is an example of this. I agree with this, I've seen a lot of MRA groups, incels, and some other dudes who cry about women have a fascination with femboys or "traps". The hatred of women will literally make you gay.
>>9609 >That's pretty much my problem with NRx and the conservative trads. It's more about "tradism" than monarchy, really, in those circles, and being conservatives in a general sense. I know what you mean and you're talking about tradcaths who view that the church should negate a king's personal rule over a nation. Tradcaths are merely a meme of idiots, who don't really support monarchism nor any form of royalty, but only give two shits about the church.
>>9950 >I agree with this, I've seen a lot of MRA groups, incels, and some other dudes who cry about women have a fascination with femboys or "traps". That has nothing to do with their supposed hatred for women, it's just that they feel like they have no other options. Believe me, none of those men would continue being part of those groups if some cute woman apporoached them (I can know because I am part/have been part of these types of communities online so I understand their mindset). The vast majority of those men would have been happily married and have a family in any other era. I'd also say men are not capable of truly hating women, it's always a sour grapes scenario. They claim to hate women because they actually love women too much yet women will not love them back. That or they hate the modern type of emasculated women, which is not the same as hating women in general. Women and men both have their roles to play and the resentment that the sexes have for each other nowadays comes from both not fulfilling their role. Although I'd say women are more to blame than men in that regard since they were the ones who wanted the right to leave their tradional roles so badly.
>>9952 >That has nothing to do with their supposed hatred for women, it's just that they feel like they have no other options. Believe me, none of those men would continue being part of those groups if some cute woman apporoached them (I can know because I am part/have been part of these types of communities online so I understand their mindset). The vast majority of those men would have been happily married and have a family in any other era. >I'd also say men are not capable of truly hating women, it's always a sour grapes scenario. They claim to hate women because they actually love women too much yet women will not love them back. That or they hate the modern type of emasculated women, which is not the same as hating women in general. This sounds like a massive struggle for them, then. I also don't believe this, because any wise man who loves women wouldn't jerk off to traps and femboys or generally shit on women 24/7 crying about how evil they are, but looking to change women for the good and looking for the good within them which they do have. I feel that most of these women who whore themselves don't want to do it, but have to do to the social pressure coming from society. >Women and men both have their roles to play and the resentment that the sexes have for each other nowadays comes from both not fulfilling their role. Although I'd say women are more to blame than men in that regard since they were the ones who wanted the right to leave their tradional roles so badly. No, it was men who given them rights they never wanted in the first place and it was also Jewish men who encouraged them to slut and whore themselves. The entire situation was mostly the fault of men, who ran the porn industries and who were massive perverts who didn't mind seeing women having more rights as long as they get more sex from them. There are a lot of men in the female rights movements beforehand and today now. This is like saying it was men's fault for breaking out of their traditional role, because women had ran the things that broke them out of it.
>>9950 > The hatred of women will literally make you gay. Extremely (((Freudian))) interpretation there, buddy. Wanting traditional standards for women has nothing to do with "hatred" or whatever kike buzzwords you want to spout
>>9949 >And islam does not do that you dumb monkey nigger Islam could not possibly exist if it did not follow the Natural Order in some respects. This should be extremely clear from my last post. Islam has both natural aspects and anti-nature aspects. Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya has said this shit himself, not regarding Islam in particular, but concerning Abrahamism in general, and I'll dig it up if I have to. >Islam and every anti-wahmen idealolgy has also lead to men fucking each in the ass Funny how the most "pro-women" (in a Jewish sense) societies on the history of the planet are absolutely filled with trannies and fags. And where is that? Oh right, the modern West! There has never been anything so bad as the modern West when it comes to degeneracy, and the """"liberation"""" of women is part and parcel of that. The fact that you call traditional societies "anti-woman" says a lot about your feminist-pozzed mindset. >I'm fucking done with this conversation you're too low IQ Lol you lost. I'll argue all day, because I know I'm right and that you are too low IQ to understand my main point. Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya too would get BTFO if he ever tried to debate me on this issue.
>>9956 Incels are resentful subhumans and have nothing to do with traditional gender relations. They are a completely modern phenomenon
There is literally a war between femboys and trannies and the femboys have sided with incels.
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>>9958 They should go fight it out in this shower room over here
>>9956 Why don't you give us the highlights so we don't have to look at your gay links
>>9960 Incels view femboys as "based" and now have truly rejected women into their lives.
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>>9953 It was a combination of Jews and women. Jews made use of women's materialism and tempted them into giving up their tradional roles in return for being able to consoom, non-Jewish men had nothing to do with it. Saying that the men of the past were responsible for giving women the right to vote and enter the workforce would not be unlike people of the future claiming that the Whites of our era are wholly responsible for mass-immigraton. It was the government and the corporations of those days which allowed for those things to happen, not the common man.
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>>9951 r/monarchy is fucking shit, the simpletons there couldn't give two shits about race and unironically think that Christianity will make their kingdom le baste. >>9955 >Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya too would get BTFO if he ever tried to debate me on this issue. No you wouldn't you're too fucking retarded, everyone would look at you like a faggot. You clearly don't know what you're talking about at all. Considering Islam doesn't have any natural aspect.
>>9964 >You clearly don't know what you're talking about at all. Considering Islam doesn't have any natural aspect. Acharya would disagree, and I will find the clip and post it here. You literally can't exist if you totally disobey the natural way
>>9963 >It was a combination of Jews and women No it was Jews, The early suffregates, were supportive of eugenics and were extremely racist against black having more rights as a whole, Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton. They wanted only the right to vote, not the same rights as whole as men. >. Jews made use of women's materialism and tempted them into giving up their tradional roles in return for being able to consoom, non-Jewish men had nothing to do with it. Woodrow Wilson gave women the right to vote and he was not Jewish. A friend of the kikes, but he was the one who had begun it. >Saying that the men of the past were responsible for giving women the right to vote and enter the workforce would not be unlike people of the future claiming that the Whites of our era are wholly responsible for mass-immigraton. It was the government and the corporations of those days which allowed for those things to happen, not the common man. Couldn't you say the same thing about women as well? Especially considering that most women did not support the suffregate movement or cared about it and the feminist movements got overran by Jews.
>>9966 >Couldn't you say the same thing about women as well? Especially considering that most women did not support the suffregate movement or cared about it and the feminist movements got overran by Jews. I suppose, yes. But if they wanted, modern women could simply give up their shitty careers and return to being housewives and mothers. As we as men are not allowed by society to ask that of them ourselves. The common woman back then may not have been that involved but the common woman today can set back the clock whenever she wishes so. Goebbels' foresight on this issue is pretty interesting by the way: https://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/joseph-goebbels-on-women/ >German women have been transformed in recent years. They are beginning to see that they are not happier as a result of being given more rights but fewer duties. They now realise that the right to be elected to public office at the expense of the right to life, motherhood, and her daily bread is not a good trade. A characteristic of the modern era is a rapidly declining birthrate in our big cities. In 1900, two million babies were born in Germany. Now the number has fallen to one million. >This drastic decline is most evident in the nation’s capital. In the last 14 years, Berlin’s birthrate has become the lowest of any European city. By 1955, without emigration, it will have only about three million inhabitants. The government is determined to halt this decline of the family and the resulting impoverishment of our blood. There must be a fundamental change. The liberal attitude toward the family and the child is responsible for Germany’s rapid decline. >We today must begin worrying about an aging population. In 1900 there were seven children for each elderly person, today it is only four. If current trends continue, by 1988 the ratio will be 1:1. These statistics say it all. They are the best proof that if Germany continues along its current path, it will end in an abyss with breathtaking speed. We can almost determine the decade when Germany collapses because of depopulation.
DHARMANATION AFFIRMS THAT ABRAHAMISM CAN HAVE NATURAL LAW ELEMENTS DESPITE BEING ABRAHAMIC, NAYSAYERS BTFO
>more Islam shilling Achmeds post-Ottomans don't win wars against non-Achmeds when they aren't aided by outsiders or funded by them. More importantly Achmeds pose no threat to Globohomo. >>9674 >It wont be hereditary either Alright I hope you don't have kids then. >muh wolves Wolves don't have societies filled with hundreds of men outside of their obvious bloodlines. Just about everyone in the pack is within the bloodline. >>9667 The Fringe Right also draws in the resentful and defective. >>9949 >Islam and every anti-wahmen idealolgy has also lead to men fucking each in the ass, the Ottoman Empire is an example of this. >he believes this No. The pederasty in places like in the Catholic Church has really nothing to do with muh hating women. It's about cloistered men being so desperate to get their dicks wet and hyper that they settle for boys since they're the next best thing. Few to none of men who fuck other men are "born homosexual" but rather are just oversexual and turn to sodomy for satisfaction. It's not a coincidence that Niggers are among the most faggy populations around and are also the loudest on muh dik. Tranny Antics also had none to do with it. Trannies men are either: A. So desperate for coochie that they make their own and can LARP as lesbos to attract women. B. Degenerate men who want to be female since they see it as more worthwhile than being male. C. Fag men who want to more easier draw in better men. Tranny men always try to be Marilyn Monroe or cartoon characters. Never a bulldyke on steroids. >>9957 It's a modern phenomenon since traditionally men even if they couldn't count on being able to reproduce they could still hope for access to decent women through war and prostitution and if they found one could keep her as long as her patriarch permitted it. >>9966 You're both off. Women are sluts. That's how they are born to be. Actual civilization in many ways is about higher-status males making alliances with lower-status males to monopolize women. This goes against female revealed preference since if left to her own devices she'll unknowingly manipulate all the males around her who aren't her immediate blood to murder each-other endlessly until the victor takes her.
>>9969 >more Islam shilling No one is shilling for Islam though. It's like some of you are reading entirely different posts.
>>9968 You didn't btfo anyone as a matter he addressed the fact the fact the reason why, Islam has certain natural law or order ideas or principles is due to them taking pagan elements. In terms of abrahamic so called taking natural law elements is only for their religion. Not for the natural order nor for race, nature, etc. So you're just once again proving that you are retarded once again.
>>9973 >is due to them taking pagan elements Obviously, otherwise they'd die out and degenerate into nothingness. This is literally said in the clip. > In terms of abrahamic so called taking natural law elements is only for their religion Mot sure what you mean by this. There are certainly some natural law elements when it comes to sex relations or family matters. > Not for the natural order nor for race, nature, etc. Never was disputed. >you're just once again proving that you are retarded once again. You just don't get what I'm saying because you're a retard
>>9969 >You're both off. Women are sluts. I'm sorry that you saw your mother fucking several different types of men anon. >No. The pederasty in places like in the Catholic Church has really nothing to do with muh hating women. It's about cloistered men being so desperate to get their dicks wet and hyper that they settle for boys since they're the next best thing. This legit makes zero sense
>>9974 >This is literally said in the clip. No, it's not watch it again. >Mot sure what you mean by this. There are certainly some natural law elements when it comes to sex relations or family matters. No there isn't what the fuck are you talking about? The Abrahamists have a different view of family matters. >You just don't get what I'm saying because you're a retard >Never was disputed. You're once again being retarded, THEY TAKE ELEMENTS FROM THE NATURAL LAW TO BE AGAINST IT, THEY USE IT TO SERVE THEIR OWN INTEREST t.mutt brain >You just don't get what I'm saying because you're a retard I get what you are saying you're just so dumb you can't make a coherent point without being a massive sperg, but I suppose that's what happens when you assimilated into kikechan culture.
>>9975 >muh pure aryan waifu cuck I bet you think all women act like your mother/sister. >This legit makes zero sense Work on your reading comprehension.
>>9961 I don't even know what a femboy is. Some new gay anime twitter thing?
>>9974 >>9976 The Abrahamists have natural law elements is only, because they were once and raised under a religion that teaches "the way of life". Although religions like Islam, Judaism, Christianity may have these elements, ibut it does not mean they are based in any way or form. The Abrahamists require these elements to survive, otherwise they would never reach this position they are now today and their religion would be deemed as weak, crazy, and ignorant. Islam and Christianity have natural elements, but they are still as a whole against it. These religions only exist to establish a new form of control over people to be against natural law, because they reject it for a munch more materialistic and submissive religions. Islam is only powerful today, not really because they seek to kill and destroy their opponents, but because of Iran and their acceptance of Islam which could of been easily ridden. In other words the elites accepted Islam the same way the Roman elites accepted Christianity and desired a change of things and new rule form of rule. So Islam's strength of might is right and violence is a myth. In reality the Islamist were strong, because of material goods just like Christianity and the elites desired a change.
>>9978 >>muh pure aryan waifu cuck I never implied you were aryan at all faggot, I was mocking you and your stupid ass one sided viewpoint of your mother fucking seven different types of men in front of because of how much of a faggot you are. >Work on your reading comprehension. That's perfectly fine, learn how to make sense out of what you say instead of stupid shit you think is 'smart".
>>9980 >The Abrahamists have natural law elements is only, because they were once and raised under a religion that teaches "the way of life" >These religions only exist to establish a new form of control over people to be against natural law, because they reject it for a munch more materialistic and submissive religions. This is literally what I'm saying.
>>9982 Then you should of made your point much more clearer.
>>9976 >No, it's not watch it again. That's exactly what it is says. I quote "You will find certain Natural Law principles that are followed even by people in the Abrahamic traditions...despite themselves. Truthfully, you cannot even survive as a people unless you follow these Natural Law principles " >The Abrahamists have a different view of family matters. [citation needed] >THEY USE IT TO SERVE THEIR OWN INTEREST This is not a profound statement, of course following Natural Law is in their interest. >>9979 >Some new gay anime twitter thing? It's more gay shit like "traps" >>9980 >Although religions like Islam, Judaism, Christianity may have these elements, ibut it does not mean they are based in any way or form. The Abrahamists require these elements to survive That's basically what I've been saying. I thought it was clear enough, but I guess not.
>>9975 Women are sluts as long as they are permitted to act as such and are not held responsible for their behavior. It's just a simple fact of nature.
>>9983 I did make it clear he's too retarded. but hey that's what happens you're below 90 IQ. >>The Abrahamists have a different view of family matters. >needs a citiation >Doesn't understand that Abrahmists are against the ideas of eugenics and view it as demonic >Doesn't realize that they are deep shit for the ideas of universalism where everyone is equal under a religion >Doesn't know about how pagans would kill their children if they have mentally or physical problems, while Abrahamists aren't against this >Doesn't realize that Abrahamists are for overpopulating the Earth with 12 children per household and don't care if their children are mutts Do I need a citiation for this? >of course following Natural Law is in their interest. Yes which is they are against and do what I said above, also you can't be for the natural order if you see that you are dominate over nature. At this point you don't even know what natural law and order even is.
>>9985 >Women are sluts as long as they are permitted to act as such and are not held responsible for their behavior. No anon that's just your mother.
>>9969 >>9970 >>9973 >>9974 >>9975 >>9976 >>9978 >>9979 >>9980 >>9981 >>9982 >>9983 >>9984 >>9985 >>9986 >>9987 This was a nice thread until you faggots ruined it
Also dubs
>>9981 Ha, I was mocking pussy with legs on a pedestal cucks like you who do it with women as long as the slut's White (or a Gook). >rest Fix your reading comprehension. >>9987 >women are the good Man you need to get more friends.
>>9989 >calling dubs on a slow as molasses board >for your own post >vpn tard
>>9990 >calling dubs on a slow as molasses board The board is moving, so what are you talking about? >vpn tard Right...torpedo.
>>9988 Just ignore it, dude. >>9969 Don't wolves also have their own form of hiearchies and in a way hereditary? I don't know why /fascist/ are so against advocating a monarchist form of fascism. I mean I get it you don't like modern royalists which I can understand and you're against the aristocracy and oligrachies, due to the fact that they're so corrupt and tried to overthrow fascism, but what about changing all that to one that's is more similar to nature, the divine, and isn't a materialistic oligriachy?
>>9986 >Doesn't realize that Abrahamists are for overpopulating the Earth with 12 children per household and don't care if their children are mutts Yes goy, restrict your own numbers while being genocided and outbred by third worlders. Right now we need to be having more children than ever. Population control will come later.
>>9996 >Don't wolves also have their own form of hierarchies and in a way hereditary? Yes, they do in fact and the leader of a wolfpack are called the Alpha male. He is the one who leads the pack of beta wolves where he wants them to go or he must take them. As for the hereditary, again yes, the offspring of the wolf is raised by the alpha male and his spouse and once the alpha male dies, the son of the wolf pack becomes the new alpha male. Almost every animal practices this social hierarchy. I feel as one of the greatest flaws of fascism is that they are against the same hierarchy that nature has created. So, who and what says that fascists shouldn't do the same?
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>>9987 Feminism has made women bigger whores than ever before, just look at the world around you, I'm sure you've seen enough "women hate threads" in your life to know what I'll post so I'll spare you the redpills. Stop putting women on a pedestal.
>>9999 (acknowledgement) women are whores because its what "the narrative" is telling them to be. they will be whatever the narrative tells them to and its the jews that control the narrative via the media.
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>>10005 The media and education system are undeniably making it worse. As everyone knows, it works on people's worst and lowest instincts. When women had the poisoned poured into their ears that they should be act like a caricature of men, and that they were "oppressed" and didn't need men, the decadence set in fast and turned them (obviously generalizing, it's a mixed bag just like with men) into giant entitled whores. Feminine virtues need to be promoted again as something good and natural.
>>10005 Please tell us how come every society of note bigger than the Stone Age made so many regulations of female behavior if women weren't sluts at birth.
>>10008 >>10011 Neither of you have dated or been around women and it's honestly pathetic.
>>10014 Female hands typed this post
>>10005 There were eras before mass-media (or media in general) when women were sluts, what narrative were they following back then? >>10016 True, only women think that dating/fucking large amounts of women is some sort of virtue that puts you above celibate men because they can only view life from a sexual lens. Just like how an intelligent man will insult someone's lack of wisdom in an argument and a brave man someone's lack of courage, women will insult men's lack of sex because that's the only thing they have a lot of experience with.
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>>10035 >True, only women think that dating/fucking large amounts of women is some sort of virtue Every heard of bodycount? Men do this shit as well, as a matter of fact women wouldn't be sluts men didn't also view the slut as another body count. You faggots need to find a social life seriously. >>10016 >Female hands typed this post <You're a female for speaking the truth Keeping struggling with the fact that the more you cry about women the sooner you become a faggot. Might as well buy cat ears and become a catboy for your fellow faggots who also hate women. >>10036 You retards have done the same thing toward my posts. Are you purposely self-owning yourselves?
>>10041 >that the more you cry about women the sooner you become a faggot The logic doesn't follow. You might as well say that "you're gay if you're not a feminist and are critical of women's liberation"
>>9963 >non-Jewish men had nothing to do with it. This is an absolutely retarded view and it's one of the reasons we don't have many introspective fascists. The jew tempts you much like Satan to Job but ultimately the ones who give them power is us. A constant series of choices that our ancestors made to take the easy path without thinking too hard about the future. Gentiles gave women the vote, and gentiles stood and watched as their brethren protested in vain against desegregation, and once again gentiles allow chimps and their own children to burn the cultural heritage of their ancestors. Jews play their role as a pestilence but we don't treat it.
>>10041 >You faggots need to find a social life seriously See: >>10036
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The way I see it, feminism is the result of a host of factors: >weak men >slave morality >economic conditions >Jews And many of these individuals factors are influenced by other individual factors in this list. It's a perfect cocktail of decadence
>>10062 >Anon see my boyfriend make a retarded point No >>10063 literally this
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>>10064 Of course the fifth factor I left implicit was the fact that female nature be allowed to be expressed without restraints is harmful to society. So long as we refuse to grasp this, we will never understand how to address it.
>>10064 Stay mad, roastie.
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Thoughts? Personally I'm not surprised the masses did nothing. Lemmings will only do anything when the people cannot tolerate their conditions any longer, and when the government is unable to keep control. A total collapse is unlikely, at least within a few decades. Lemmings will literally put up with any amount of bullshit so long as they have food and a house, and they are of course easily psyoped by hoaxes like Covid and other types of fearmongering https://nitter.net/thuletide/status/1315731656976879619
>>10471 When the lockdowns first started, I did have this feeling that something big coming as if we were entering an apocalyptic scenario. Of course, this was back when everyone thought Corona was going to be a new plague, rather than something as harmless as the cold. After going through that without anything happening, I also gave up on the idea of any sort of major uprising. Besides, if several major terrorist attacks in the capital cities of Europe were not enough to spark up some sort of uprising, then I don't think anything will. I don't know what for fate the US will have but I think in Europe, as demographics change, will see a return of tribalism (Spengler said something like this as well, although he could not predict the drastic population changes), where the major cities like London and Paris become centers for non-Whites and Islam with the Whites remaining there being assimilated in the mongrel horde. Meanwhile, Whites on the countryside will develop a sense of nationalism and these two groups will live in a constant state of minor conflict, like the ethnic and religious clashes we see in the third world. I am not saying this in an attempt to 'blackpill' anyone by the way, that's just what I feel is a realistic prediction at this point, when looking at the current demographic trends and the lack of reaction towards this from the masses. I recently read Michelle Houellebecq's Submission, released in 2015 on the day of the Charlie Hebdo attacks, and it was an insanely prophetic work. It's set in 2022 and describes this state of conflict between Islamists and far-righters going on in the background but the thing is, people go on with their lives as usual, despite the constant terrorist attacks and an election that feels like it could be the final one. I feel like that describes the state of the west 5 years after its release very well, people have become completely numb to stories of terrorism and ideological extremism, like it has already become 'part and parcel'. The book ends with France being taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood after they form a coalition with the Socialist party and everyone kind of going along with it, the main character later on as well. As if the point of the book completely went over their head, the author was later accused of promoting 'conspiracy theories' and Islamophobia by the same type of career politicians that the book made fun of.
>>10472 I felt the same about Corona at first. Looking back I have to admit that I was quite easily tricked by all of those videos that allegedly showed chinks dropping dead in the streets. This combined with the fact that the media at first pretended like Corona was no big deal made myself and many others fall for the psyop (at least initially) hook, line and sinker. Now it's far more plausible to me that all of those videos of chinks dying were fake, and either the media and governments purposely downplayed Corona to get potential resisters to take it seriously and think that there was a cover-up going on, or after some time had passed they realized that they could use the virus to their advantage as a way to increase their control over the goyim. I think your assessment of Europe seems plausible based on what I've seen there with my own eyes. I'm an American but I visited several cities are Europe and saw how filled with shitskins they were compared to the countryside and smaller towns. In America the cities will grow ever more full of shitskins, mutts, degenerates and leftists of all varieties. The same will happen with whole swathes of the Southwest. Since America is already an ethnic amalgam it won't be as clear-cut as in Europe, unfortunately. That book by Houllebecq sounds interesting. I've heard people on /lit/ talk about him.
>>10474 >That book by Houllebecq sounds interesting. I've heard people on /lit/ talk about him. He has some interesting ideas. I haven't read his other works but they seem to all focus on the issues of the average western man, who is consumed by loneliness and sexual frustration, and has been robbed of the possibility of forming a meaningful romantic relationship by the feminist movement. The last part is essential as a major reason why the Islamist's win in the book is because they reverse the effects of the feminist movement in France, forcing women back into the role of submissive housewives and encouraging arranged marriages. I must say though that the book can be quite vulgar when it comes to the topic of sex and it seems like his other works are not much better so it's not much of a pleasant read when it comes to those parts. I think the plot of the book is a good example of how much the relations between the sexes and its influence on society are underestimated by many on the right. Tons of young men right now are simply fed up with feminism and the fact that they may never be able to have a normal marriage, something easily attainable for members of previous generations. If one cannot convince them that his movement has the potential to solve that issue, they will move on to another movement that does have that potential.
>>10476 I'll definitely have to check that book out. Honestly I'd heard of it before but I had just assumed for whatever reason that it was some sort of junk fiction, but you make it sound like it is a more well thought-out book than just merely that, especially if the themes surrounding the issue of feminism is well-handled. The problem of feminism is definitely one of the greatest issues that White men face today that deserves far more attention that it typically gets. Not only have our enemies attempted to cleave apart the organic unity of the nation between classes and between young and old, they've gone so far as to insight enmity between the most fundamental division possible, which is simultaneously the most vital for the future of our people.
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>>10487 TikTok is the most destructive social media platform that has ever existed. What MTV, Hollywood, Warner Music tried to do in 25 years TikTok was able to do in just one week. TikTok has taken final control of the NPC, and put him/her into a state of psychosis. Millions of people are now improvising one another to a new dance, a new lip sync, a new prank are rewarded for their behavior. Now a never ending cycle of degeneracy and attention-seeking has officially been created. Also that pic you attached is peak clownworld, I just feel empty reading it.
>>10487 >funny Hilarious.
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>>10488 What's Tik-tok like? As I understand it it's a bunch of short clips of pranks and then girls recording themselves doing whore dances and strip teases or something, but I've only seen a couple of clips. I also heard about onlyfans coming out this past year, which is apparently a social network cam whoring platform of some sort where they get paid like Patreon. I hear the membership has absolutely skyrocketed during the pandemic. Last I saw dating sites were ghost towns as well, a handful of chads fuck all of the girls worth boning on tinder, and a large part of the girls moved to sugary daddy websites.
>>10508 Personally I’ve never used TikTok, but my assumption is that more or less the same sort of atmosphere as prevails on other normalfag social media sites or apps – i.e. nihilistic humor and irony, nigger glorification, whoredom, etc. I just went and looked up some TikTok compilations and was basically proven right. Watch for a moment if you can handle it: https://youtu.be/kU1s4Cl5ufs https://youtu.be/z7i_WqQoU6I I watched the first minute of that second video and literally every girl was dancing to jungle beats. Onlyfans too is obviously a major problem. They’re trying to turn every girl on the planet into a prostitute, making Tim Stokely the world’s biggest pimp. I can’t confirm whether Stokely is Jewish or not. He has no Wikipedia page and hardly any photos. I found a Muslim blog in 2017 calling him a Jew though, for what it’s worth: >In 2013, 30-year-old Londoner Timothy Stokely (Jew) created Custom4U, a website where pornography aficionados and fetishists all over the world can create porn videos tailored to their specific desires. https://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2017/06/25/haaretz-israelis-love-porn-especially-local-jewish-porn/
>>10508 Not sure how many girls use those sugar daddy sites but it's nontrivial - my father hooks up with women younger than I am through them. Pretty sickening, and he brings it around my brother too. Fuck baby boomers, man.
>>10518 Sounds like underlying father issues. Were you perhaps molested as a child?
>>10533 No, I didn't have any issues with my father growing up. He didn't start doing this until I was an adult. If you're meaning to imply I'm a fag for not appreciating that old men are paying young girls for sex, eat shit.
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>>10508 > I also heard about onlyfans coming out this past year, which is apparently a social network cam whoring platform of some sort where they get paid like Patreon Pic related, it's becoming very big. It's a platform for personalized softcore porn aimed at lonely men, I'd say it's a more sexual version of the (Twitch) streamer phenomenon. who also make their money off men desperate for any female attention. I've seen posts on twitter of girls glorifying the service, claiming they have bought houses with the money they made of it, which are probably coveted advertisements made by the company itself. It appeals to many young western women who like the idea of a get-rich-quick scheme to pay their student-debts and live a higher standard of living than if they worked a minimum income job. TInder was also created by Jews by the way. >The team worked out of the personal office of Justin Mateen,[12] who had known Rad since age 14, also came from a Jewish-Iranian family in the Los Angeles area,[15][16] attended the University of Southern California, and became an entrepreneur at the same time as Rad, but was not yet a part of MatchBox or Cardify.
>>10537 >TInder was also created by Jews by the way. It seems like all of these dating / hookup sites are kiked. The Match Group owns nearly all of them — Tinder, Match.com, OkCupid, PlentyOfFish — all under the control of a (((Joey Levin))) and (((Gary Swidler))). Even Match.com was founded by a (((Gary Kremen)))
>>10542 >jews are behind reducing dating to mere physical attraction rather than basing it on community and personality Color me surprised.
>>10545 Yeah I can’t say I was very surprised to learn this. It fits right in with what I’d expect. Jews are creating incels en masse.
>>10545 Just like in Weimar, everything the Jews do today is catered towards transforming non-Jews into animals who live for the sole purpose of satisfying their base instincts.
https://mobile.twitter.com/urbanartshop/status/1319111785409089544 Does anyone know who this faggot is? He seems to claim to be a fascist but is agaisnt White supremacism and acts a moralists.
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>>11220 It's a NazBol who wants to align with Muslims (#OneStruggle) and cries about the "Great Satan" it looks like. AKA another Keith Woods wannabe shill. Being against White supremacy is a being a cuckold, period, just as is appealing to "moral arguments" (What is moral is the will of the stronger). Look at how he retweets literal chinks, and people with the word "Juche" in their accounts who appeal to black Marxists like Fanon for God's sake.
>>11221 In other words a communist Jew who pretends to be a fascist. I also heard rumors he was a literal cuck.
>>11225 >In other words a communist Jew who pretends to be a fascist I feel like there are so many of these online unfortunately. It wouldn’t surprise me if someone who was concerned with supporting China and Iran online and shilling for Marxists was a cuck
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>>11221 >AKA another Keith Woods wannabe shill. Being against White supremacy is a being a cuckold Funny for you to say that, considering Spencer is now a Blacked.com subscriber. From the alt-right to the alt-kike and they're now the alt-cuck. I have more respect for ancaps then I do for these cucks and that says a lot. Imagine calling anyone rascist liberals and doing shit like this.
>>11227 I can’t believe Spencer has gone from talking about Nietzsche and eugenics with Jonathan Bowden on podcasts to supporting Joe Biden and nigger warlords. The absolute state
>>11227 >White liberals Yeah this guy is a fucking Jew, fucking Americans man. I hope this retard realizes that Rockwell wouldn't approve this type of shit at all. Calling the most Judaic political group who are filled with zionists and Jews, "White" is fucking retarded and his wignat twatter tards who orbit him are probably mutts. I'm starting wish someone just put a bullet in his brain already.
>>11221 >Being against White supremacy is a being a cuckold Not everyone here actually believes in supremacy but you do you.
>>11234 >not believing Whites are the highest race >wanting to be pushed around by shitskins pursuing their own interests at the expense of yours >allowing shitskins to shit up the planet with White technologies while you sick in your fictional lines on the map and never overstep Yikes.
>>11234 >Not everyone here actually believes in supremacy but you do you. Well you're fucking faggots and are truly blue-pilled. I have no sympathy for niggers nor chinks, they all either have to go or bend the knee.
>>11235 >while you sick *sit
>>11227 So wait raz Simone is a fucking warlord? And he's praising him?
>>11238 He was a warlord for the whole CHAZ shit and is a black nationalist, I have no idea why he is praising him, but my guess is it's because Richard's Jew genes are once again kickin telling to be a faggot.
>>11238 He’s the nigger who walked around with a rifle in Seattle when commies tried and failed to set up that CHAZ autonomous area.
>>11240 >He’s the nigger who walked around with a rifle in Seattle when commies tried and failed to set up that CHAZ autonomous area. So basically he was barely a warlord just a dumb nigger with a rifle.
>>11241 Yeah, that’s true, the term “warlord” makes him sound more powerful than he really was
>>11236 Chinks and niggers don't give 2 shits about ethnic Europeans. I wish we could get it through to all the normalcucks out there that racial empathy is only flowing one way, to everyone else's benefit, and at our loss.
>>11235 To be fair, a White can hold a more egalitarian view of the races, not want to be pushed around, have an non-expansionist view, and still be logically consistent.
>>11243 Well anyone who says stupid shit about they don't care for supremacy or muh moralism has already outed themselves as Jew or a mutt or even both. I can't stand retards who think we should be sympathetic to the poor mudslimes because they hate gays thinking that alone has some value.
>>11242 That's true, they really hyped him up back when the chaz situation first started to get out of hand. I hope he killed a lot of his own; that's all they are good for.
>moral argument for survival “p-please let us survive, j-just hear my argument first and you’ll understand!”
>>11229 Richard was always suspicious person considering, I haven't nor most of White nationalist have heard of him until the Charlottesville Rally, which I have suspicion of as well. Richard Spencer probably only supports things like eugenics because he believes it would benefit people like him. He's a faggot, married a kike, was tutored by a kike, is actually communist, half Jewish as well, shills zionist elites and excuses it by calling Trump worst and has this dumb obsession with Trump along with his fans. People like him resulting in supporting civic nationalism is probably because he would get gassed along with the other dumbass intellectual mutts.
>>11249 Where's the proof he's a faggot or that he's half jewish? I haven't seen that yet.
>>11260 Him being a fag is mainly supported by certain tweets that he has made over the years, along with his voice and face. He has a case of the gay face for sure
>>11244 If you hold any egalitarian view you are wrong, because the fundamental premise of egalitarianism is false, it is therefore impossible to be logically consistent while holding that belief unless you wish to believe only false things.
>>11267 Not a good look. But this is about as much proof as there is that Yukio Mishima was a butt fucker
>>11395 More egalitarian as in acknowledging that certain groups do better in certain situations, but not every situation. Can you judge an apple superior to an orange? They both have their own strengths
>>11405 Egalitarianism refers to social equality and equal rights. Even if there is not a way in which you can delineate what is exactly superior or inferior in something like an apple and an orange, they're of course different, and thus unequal. The closer things are to each other, the easier it is discern superiority and inferiority. That is why the difference between a retard and an Aryan Übermensch is so obvious, or why in most respects the man is superior to the woman, even though the woman is perfectly suited to her natural roles.
>>11403 So, this is decisive proof?
>>11405 And pray tell what situations does any other race do better than us when you pit our experts in that field against their experts in the same? there are not many places where other races beat us out in any respect, and when they do it's an adaptation like some pacific islander people who can naturally hold their breath under water longer and we just use scuba gear instead.
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>>11418 >>11403 Mishima's faggotry is over-played. He probably was to an extent, but he was also married with multiple children, and his wife denied the claim and even got books alleging the fact removed from shelves in Japan.
>>7640 >muh workout Dude infects steroid and the bitch is wearing skimpy clothes to whore herself out on the internet. Both Varg the fag and you need a good raping in the ass to learn your lesson, retard. Losing weight is extremely easy and anyone who's proud of of being skinny is obnoxious.
>>11413 >the man is superior to the woman The man-woman dichotomy is unusual because of how interdependent they are of one another. Man is superior using the metrics men judge each other and provide value, but woman has her own strengths, and it's natural for men to defer to women in certain cases, precisely because she is perfectly suited to her natural roles. >>11421 I'm not arguing that Whites aren't the clear leaders when it comes to civilization building and innovation, with some competition from the Orient. But there is a reason why evolution selected for the different races. The stability that more tribal cultures can offer may play a part. >>7640 >Except the jews aren't behind working out at all Only if you ignore bodybuilding, which dominates current ideas of fitness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_Sandow https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Weider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Gold
>>11426 >Man is superior using the metrics men judge each other and provide value Yeah, that's true. I think the view of men and women as complementary is the most healthy and accurate one. There is a natural division of labor, and different areas where men and women should attend to because they are most suited to it.
>>11423 Mental retardation is not healthy anon you might wanna get checked out.
>>11426 We don't really have a lot of competition from the orient China and Chinese people are laughably incompetent no matter where they have power and Japan is the only compatible or even slightly competitive power there is in the Far east and even they are a racial enemy despite how friendly we may be with them.
>>11436 I used Orient to refer to the entirety of Asia, not just the far China. I wanted to avoid the specific connotation if I had used Asian. Apologies for not being more clear there. With that being said, I'm referring more to historical metrics than modernity, as I think the Ancients of both cultures would look at us with disdain. Europeans never directly competed with the far East until recently, but based off of the arts and the technology that we do know originated there, I think it's fair to say they were comparable at one point. And of course, we have the Persians and other branches of the Indo-European tree from the Near East.
>>11426 I think that even though men and women are different, that shouldn't mean that the husband must rule the wife with a tight grip or something. Like why not see your wife more than just a house servant? Like a friend?
>>11455 I think the idea of the traditional husband has been poisoned by feminist narrative-weaving that paints him as some sort of tyrant over his wife and children. The father certainly had authority over them, but a good father is not utterly domineering and controlling over everything – this doesn’t mean that he is permissive of wrongdoing though, or tolerant of disrespect. By male standards, women are greater than children but lesser than men. Recognizing this fact and structuring society accordingly with this in mind will obviously lead to a very different society than from what we have today. They’d be more restricted, but ultimately it would be for the best. Just as one does not allow children to do whatever they wish according to each and every passing whim, the same holds true for women, who are more emotional, less rational and generally of more average intelligence compared to men, who are spread over a wider range of intelligence. One can treat a wife like a friend and still realize that she is not the same in capacity or nature as a man. Generally, absent of feminist propaganda or exceedingly weak men, this relationship comes about just as naturally as the relationship between a man and his son or daughters, or between a ruler and the ruled
>>11426 >but woman has her own strengths I see this argument used a lot online by right-wingers who are against a strictly patriarchal system but I cannot think of any strengths that a woman has, aside from being good at dealing with children. But even in today's society, like we see in the case of female teachers, we see that women can be quite cruel to children when they have excessive control over them. That or their lack of understanding of what boys need in their education will mean they are too overbearing and turn them into pussies. So really, I cannot think of any features that women have which are beneficial to society as a whole.
>>11464 >So really, I cannot think of any features that women have which are beneficial to society as a whole. Having babies and child-rearing first and foremost, obviously. This is of course essential. I don't think they're capable of raising a child completely by themselves, though, as we see how single-mother households fair in the children they raise (not well at all). Traditionally, they did much more than just vacuum and clean the dishes too - from what I understand, oftentimes clothing was produced in the home, or locally among the women (capitalism destroyed this), not to mention other important tasks such as gardening and maybe even very basic lower education of children. All of this they are quite suited to and even enjoy more than a man ever could. Unfortunately many of the traditional areas of females in modern society have been undermined and replaced with state or corporate entities.
>>11464 You're looking through a male lens. Women's power tends to be a lot softer: as a muse, as something to protect or win. I also think women have a special insight, whether that comes to reading people or some sort of spiritual connection. That's why historically women advisors were not uncommon, and why institutions like the Pythia were always female.
>>11558 >2030 What a coincidence. This is the date that I have in my head for everything going to shit. It is likely that everything in this video has to do with (((The Great Reset))). These kikes are pushing the limit here.

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