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QTDDTOT - Questions That Don't Deserve Their own Threads Anonymous Board owner 04/06/2020 (Mon) 15:03:45 No.3
As per the subject. If you have a one-liner question won't generate much discussion and isn't related to moderation or requests, post it here.
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Are threads from the Julay iteration archived? Specifically looking for the old literature thread.
>>26 Yes, many threads of the threads have been archived. I put the archive for the literature thread at the bottom of this post. It’s not entirely out of the question though that we’re gonna get all of our content saved. It seems like this will possibly become our primary bunker again, as we now have a place here with /liberty/ and /monarchy/ — http://hoppe-sama.xyz/fascist/index.html It’s a bit barebones for my liking right now, especially on the moderation side, but hopefjllh Robi will be able to port everything from Julay right onto there. We’ll see. http://archive.fo/m9CP1
How relaxed is /fascist/? Because anon.cafe is for relaxed boards, so we gotta make sure you're relaxed enough to be here.
>>29 Fairly relaxed. We’re a lot slower than /pol/ and have a higher effort post to shitpost ratio than a lot of boards. We have the occasional shitflinging trash-fire thread but that happens to everyone. There won’t be any problems.
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>>30 >>29 Hope there's a reason for multiple people to have the same name, or if you're samefagging.
>>31 Well that answers that.
>>31 >>32 Embarrassing.
Anybody ever addressed this?
>>145 I think it could be argued that with what the Founding Fathers wrote up they sowed the seeds for all of the degeneracy that followed and was justified through their ideas. Being a "white nationalist" doesn't cut it when you one is still deluded on liberal lies like "all men are created equal" and that democracy is any form of desirable government. The key flaw, of course, is that one phrase "all men are created equal". Just as the spiritual equality of Cucktianity lead to the egalitarianism of today, so does the mere positing of different people being exactly equal by virtue of their creation pave the way for all sorts of people to claim that they deserve just as much as the white people who built the United States. There's no doubt that they would be appalled by the freak-show that we live in today, but they're really the spiritual successors of almost every problem in America today. A system founded on such a nebulous idea of freedom has its logical conclusion in anarchy and degeneracy.
>>145 It would be very difficult to address any of it from any perspective because of how it's formatted and how it is clearly a dialogue happening in real time about several distinct topics at once and not a deliberate presentation of a specific idea or thesis. There are things all parties say that are true and there are things that all parties say that aren't and there are allot of things all parties say that are partially-to-mostly true and presented in awkward ways that make their applications less than ideal. Truth is difficult, the best anyone can really hope for is being the least wrong. >>147 I think that's an incredibly uncharitable way to look at it. The founding fathers lived in their particular time in history, had access to their particular sets of data and were educated to understand the world through a particular heuristic. We simply live in a different context now and it's grossly unfair to judge them by the standards of our context rather than the standards of theirs. Equality in all of it's forms (political, spiritual, biological, economic, etc) had a different meaning to them than it does to us because we are living in the light of the "free" society they created rather than looking forward to what it could be - as only they could. The 18th century in general is such a peculiar time in human history and there's a reason it sort of ends up in the minds of most people as a kind of year zero for all of both human progress and regress alike. It sets the a-priori base assumptions that we make when it comes to how we evaluate civilizational success and failure. Even those who claim to stand in opposition to the ideals that were championed in that day can't help but evaluate it on the terms it defines. Nobody looks at the 18th century and evaluates it through a medieval world-view or antiquitous world-view, we are, for good or ill, the grand-children of the 18th century and have inherited it's peculiarities. My 15 minutes of imageboard fame came when I was trying to synthesize American patriotic sentiment with more overtly Fascistic elements in what I called the New Federalist Party (if anyone here remembers that, it's been like 5 years) because in reading primary source documents on what the founders actually believed and thought and wanted to try and accomplish with the American experiment I saw a very real overlap in how they saw the world and how the 20th century far right saw the world. The truth is the founders, like all people, were inconsistent in their beliefs and different topics especially when you compare one individual with another. James Madison discussed obliquely the idea of establishing a Christian secret police to protect public morals and public worship against the deistic and sometimes atheistic tendencies of his co-founders. And while a lot of those with a fascistic streak in their politics would gawk at the notion as Madison would have implemented it the method and the sentiment to protect public morals and crack down on degenerate belief systems is one they can whole-heatedly support. I bring that up to illustrate a point, we have a particular charicature of the founding fathers based on the way their legacy has been passed down to and received by us, this perception of them that we have is a general amalgamation of different and competing ideas and beliefs that they had, sometimes in common, sometimes in opposition, with one another but there can and does exist an alternate amalgamation made up of the ideas that did not win-out culturally or historically and if we view the founders of light of that alternate amalgamation they are often more hardcore in their beliefs than any of us anons are. Ben Franklin, after all, is the one who wrote that only white peoples should be allowed to populate north america and that the french didn't count as white. Anon's can't decide whether or not we accept greeks or italians but Benny Franks cuts a level deeper and throws France out of the club.
>>147 >Sowed the seeds I think that's a fair assessment, and never thought otherwise but they aren't responible for intentional misuse and intentional misinterpretation of their ideas, that blame lies with the corrupters, Traitors and jews both. >Deluded on liberal lies Do have to say that to me, at least, it's clear that few of them believed that creed of "All Men created equal" and it was more of a propagandistic lie to get funding from sources other than The bank of England or other central banks as their own currencies were invalidated and a new one couldn't be created until they were freed of English control, and they did hate Democracy, that much is clear from the structure and actions of the early US, that poison came from elsewhere, i think, though they didn't create a sufficient defense of what they created which left us vulnerable. >founded on freedom I disagree, that that was their idea, or even their intent, I suspect that is a corruption by others of what they had in mind. I think they wanted by protecting our freedoms, to foster the creation of a people who, by nature of having their rulers involved in their lives as little as possible, would become very closely tied together and very self sufficient, yet generous with each other, and it is obvious they intended to base this on the common blood all Europeans share, it worked and did that, then we forgot to defend it, and let it be corrupted. That aside, I meant specifically the claims about Freemasonry and the actions of Hitler described therein, I know that reflecting the american spirit in some sort of NatSoc/Fascist movement is a difficult task but I have made it my mission to do so, and am just looking for the Truth on this.
>>148 >The founding fathers lived in their particular time in history, had access to their particular sets of data and were educated to understand the world through a particular heuristic. We simply live in a different context now and it's grossly unfair to judge them by the standards of our context rather than the standards of theirs Of course. They undeniably had no way of knowing how their ideas would be twisted over the course of time, that's true, and it is definitely possible that their conceptions of certain words such as "equality" may have changed, but the fact is that much of what they created was the beginning of the problems today in embryo, I certainly don't believe that they were kikes rubbing their hands together or anything, though the Freemason association does make me a bit suspicious of them, I'm not going to lie. >because in reading primary source documents on what the founders actually believed and thought and wanted to try and accomplish with the American experiment I saw a very real overlap in how they saw the world and how the 20th century far right saw the world. Okay, I'm slightly interested. What would you recommend that I read?
>>149 I realize now I probably should have asked directly about the freemasonry in my first post\ >>150 The Federalist Papers, the original ones are a good start, Most of the founders stuff is available freely on the internet not yet being Banned documents to twist our history, so you could probably start anywhere just looking at the Big Six, Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Madison, Franklin, and the other Adams, I think.
>>151 >The Federalist Papers, the original ones are a good start Thank you.
>>152 Oh and the instead of the second Adams the last of the big six is Paine, don't know why I blanked on that.
Is ALL modern art degenerate? I understand why most of it is hated by our movement, but I don't think it's all bad. The art of Mario Radice (first picture) decorated the Casa del Fascio in Como, Italy, and the Italian Futurist art movement (second picture) was very tied to Fascism. I actually think this connection is a good example of why Fascism is "third position", because it glorifies the past AND embraces the future.
>>187 Most modern art is degenerate. That first piece I would say is utterly devoid of artistic value. I could probably make something like that in Photoshop if I wanted to if I spent the time manipulating some geometric shapes for a little bit and it would probably be on par in quality or artistic talent. With futurism, it might not necessarily be my cup of tea, but I at least see that the works are works of some degree of talent and creativity. And even then it would depend on what exactly this art is depicting.
>>187 Not all but a lot. It goes to what the artist's purpose is in creating the art. If I saw your first example on a fixture or piece of furniture as a decoration or ornamentation or even as the part of a pattern on a shirt I wouldn't have any kind of issue with it. If it were being presented or appraised as high art then I would think of it as degenerate. There's a kind of scale at work where art rates a certain amount of merit and as long as it it utilized to the purpose it rates then it's fine but when you try to place it above it's station or even place great art below it's station then it's immediately clear that that's inappropriate. It is not degenerate for children to make childish art It is not degenerate for the untrained or untalented to make mediocre art It is degenerate for great artists to make childish and mediocre art purposefully to subvert great art.
This art talk reminds me of something fun from Table Talk when Hitler was talking about how the Jews in control of the papers, with the help of art-critics, stir up buzz about degenerate modern art, making the people think that this shit is the height of all art. Jews bid against each other, driving up the prices. They fraudulently sell this garbage, depreciating the works of true value, buying them all up through this scheme. Hitler claims that after they began seizing Jewish property that they came across countless Jews hording valuable pieces, the prices of which had been depreciated. Think about how they to this day run stories about all of the very valuable art eeevil Hitler took from Jews.
>>187 Yeah, your art needs more... ummm... Movement F A S C H I S M is revolutionary, not conservative; it seeks rebirth, not conservation of the rotten status quo; it is youthful, not old; energetic, not frozen in space-time; it is a revolt, not an adherence to the rules of man. While conservatives live in the static foundations laid by their ancestors, and liberals try to destroy it we will built upon the work on top of it and go up and trough the stars until we find the most spectacular death.
>>205 This may be a dumb question, but why do some shit on post-modernism and dada but appreciate futurism at the same time?
>>206 Post-modernism can be described as « For the sake of it », it deconstructs and profanes everything not even for shits and giggles. Dada is a vanguard similar in some aspects since F U T U R I S M O took some aspects from it, but it was ultimately mental masturbation, it was just nothing, absurd for the sake of absurd F U T U R I S M O was about speed, hyper-violence, the future, machines and bombing museums because they are the embodiment of « Shut the Fuck Up, Boomer », even before boomers became a thing. F U T U R I S M O was about dreaming about the possibilities new technology (like airplanes, they loved airplanes) and new ideas (like F A S C I S M O ) Now, which one is Dada, which one is Cubism and which one is F U T U R I S M O
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>>209 Yes I do agree that Dada doesn't really create anything new, it just tergivises something that already exists, which is why some do despise it looking back to it. It kind of kickstarted the "subversive" idea of art, not in the sense of challenging expectations of the viewer, but in challenging the standards of him, for another lack of words. Which is why a lot of it looks ugly. Though now that you mentioned Cubism I would like it if you explained your thoughts more of it, I haven't seen much heads or tails of it
>>209 >Post-modernism can be described as « For the sake of it », it deconstructs and profanes everything not even for shits and giggles. Not entirely true, what you think of is Destruktivism, later renamed as Deconstructivism. It's part of Post-Modernism but that's an umbrella term, many aspects of it do result in a mangled product but with intention which might be making the spectator see the true nature or irony of a product/art or think about it differently, so it simply and completely forced the spectator to think and not just go for a "i like it" fluoride approval, problem is people didn't even think about it and just went on with it being pure art. Futurismo is not about bombing and denigrating the past, it was more about "OK Boomer" rather than "The Future is Now, Old Man" if you want me to go down on being a meme-spouting fuck. It gloated on the future possibilities and technology like you very well said there, but it didn't want to destroy the past, if anything they wanted the betterment of it. What you probably look for is Stridentism, which is a late off-shot that wanted something of a brand new order with cool shit over the old lame ones. It is of no wonder nobody really gave it a go because it was founded by edgy college dropouts on drugs or alcohol (that last part is crucial)
>>227 Maybe that is what futurism became once it materialized into the real world, but in the fire of its conception it really was the personification of « Shut the Fuck up, Boomer », you can see the tenth point in their manifiesto, if I remember correctly it was because they see it as worshiping the past, not because they wanted to destroy it, but because they wanted to move forward, it was less of a target and more of colateral damage; their airplanes were pointing in the oposite direction, but their engine's exhaust burned everything being them Yes, I know they had no jet engines back then, but the analogy was just too good. Still, I am glad Futurism later respected the past, but I also find the insolent « The Future is Now, Old Man » attitude quite amusing. >>224 I am not an expert o art, all I know is that the multi-dimensional and multi-perspective technique of cubism was very popular in F U T U R I S M O since they were interested in speed, which is movement and time. I donot hold any particular opinions on it aside from a vapid « Hey, that's cool », but I do hold some grudges against some specific artists. Frankly, my problem with most modern art is not that « It looks weird » but the message behind it and how lazy most of it is.
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>>251 >but in the fire of its conception it really was the personification of « Shut the Fuck up, Boomer » Well that makes more sense, i agree, futuristas were pretty emphatic on paper but on execution they were more respectful. >not because they wanted to destroy it, but because they wanted to move forward That's it, that's the spot. Yeah they were still some insolence out there, Stridentism had some of their actual, serious points read something that almost always, invariably, remind me of webm related (which is also a good example of deranged dadaism, although made for amusement rather than message)
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>>253 I actually forgot to add the image of the point about museums, must I might as well post all articles. I suppose that the reason they mellowed down is that they found an opportunity in Fascism and at that time only that portion of Art.10 and some aspects of Art.8 were antagonistic to Fascism, but recognized it as the most violent, vanguardist, and fasted movement of all time. But article 11 may go against the ideas of modern Fascists, but ecology is a very modern concept, not like futurists would have cared. Art.8 is quite romantic, it would make an interesting collage or typographic piece Now, What's /fascist/ stand on getting vertical, being radical, chilling-out, and « Cool CDs »?
Does anyone here know the name of the speaker, or name of video, or have the video about how the greatest generation was the worst? I don't think it was a william pierce video, but it may have been. i remember the mouth was edited to look like he was speaking in a strange way. It was a good video focusing on how the greatest generation were either worshiping authority of military, or worshiped professors, but completely lacked moral courage. I've been looking for hours and i can't find it anywhere. I likely have it saved somewhere but the filename is likely gibberish.
>>448 Found it. its a 50mb file so i cant post it easily. I think i originally got it from endchan/pol/ but it was called Bob Whitaker "The Weakest Generation" if anyone is curious. I don't like how the video was edited, but its a great speech that really hits the nail on the head describing "the greatest generation" and explaining why they are the way they are.
What kikery is this? Neinchan down for anybody else? vvadkyuldkwon6za.onion/pol/catalog.html
>>524 Same here. Happened the same last week when it stayed down for 24 hours, but admin said it was not due to attacks.
>>524 Down for me again too
How is everyone enjoying the chimpout?
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>>533 Loving it, honestly. Some people are saying that this is the start of race war but to me it's only another step towards race war. Sadly though many people are probably being pulled into the false dichotomy of rioters versus ZOGbots. Hopefully many people will get redpilled on joggers though
>>534 The shills really hate it when you mention that both the zogbot and the nignog worked at the same nightclub, and that nightclub was in the same building as a mason lodge.
>>534 With them doubling down like this more Americans will be redpilled this year than the last 4. True reactionary politics is going to become very popular in the next decade.
>>535 >that nightclub was in the same building as a mason lodge. Was it really? I will have to look that up. because that would be far too suspicious. I thought that them working together in the first place was a bit weird but a Masonic lodge would basically confirm that this was started on a false flag >>536 I agree, we're going to see a mass-redpilling from this. The riots in 2014 in Ferguson really redpilled me on many things personally, and I'm sure that this, being much bigger, will do the same to many. >True reactionary politics is going to become very popular in the next decade. This decade is going to be wild, I feel. The 2020s is when the demographic reality is finally beginning to be felt. Brazilification is full swing.
Is there such thing as a fascist that isn't also a purity spiraller?
>>543 Define purity spiraler
>>539 The problem is that all you "red pilled" people aren't actually causing any problems. If you sit at home posting on an image board you're not any sort of disruption or threat. These niggers constantly cause problems and demand "solutions" to the problems they cause, which in turn gets them more gibs me dats. If fascists had been serious about a take over of any western country then corona would of been the time to go full retard and have a fire sale. All the politicians you hate are going to be home, all their families are going to be at home. What better chance to RWDS's have of cleaning them all out? It was a once in a life time chance and no one took it, not a single person. Lets play your game for a minute though. You said there will be a big reactionary increase due to this. Assuming that's whites and maybe some roof top koreans you're still being out bred by the chimps doing this. If anything this is going to get more chimpettes and nigs together to have even more babies (nigs will fuck anything that moves remember). So even if you have a big reactionary shift (9/11 style shift against muslims) it only lasts a decade at most because the demographics are still against you. You're still out numbered and going to lose in any democratic situation. The message you should be taking from this is that mass violence gets results in the system. Jerking off to anime doesn't get you anything. I'm not even encouraging people to do that sort of thing. I'm pointing out it doesn't matter how many you red pill if none of them are willing to take action while a million chimps (and fertile white women, lets not forget) are willing to take action for the nigger population. You lose because you never play and they always play to win even over the smallest possible situation. These people are violent, semi organized and been raised all their lives to think whitey hates them and puts a bullet in the back of their heads every chance he gets. What do you think that's going to look like when it gains power? South Africa will look like Disney land.
>>546 Whites are too cucked and deracinated to do anything, period, and will remain so as long as those in power are able to provide us with bread and circuses. Lemmings don’t see race as important or worth risking their hide over. This is exactly why acceleration is the only viable solution in the current year. These conditions need brought about intentionally for white lemmings to wake up and this can only be brought about by taking ZOG’s ability to provide bread and circuses away. Basically America and the West will need to be turned into a shithole far worse than it is now for any whites to get their fat asses off the couch. The Jews have a total grip on the white mind from cradle to grave through MSM, public education, entertainment and laws. Things are very bad, but we’re converging towards a point where the demographic balance in America will hit a critical point and whites will be faced with the fact that they have become a minority. Either then they will begin to wake up, or they will stay docile and cucked. This nigger and communist riot right now is likely redpilling millions on niggers consciously or subconsciously, but as long as the hand that feeds them punishes politically incorrect behavior like this, it is almost hopeless. “Those who want to live, let them fight, and those who do not want to fight in this world of eternal struggle do not deserve to live.” – Adolf Hitler
>>524 It's up now
Ignoring how this is obvious fedposting, Niggers are supported by the Deep State and its tentacles (mass media, celebrities, etc.). Niggers do not pose any more of a threat to the system than they did in the 60s. Niggers are PART of the system. Fascists are not supported by the Deep State. Do you really think White Nationalists or whatever wouldn't be drone striked if they tried doing a mass movement against the Deep State with no major support from the elites and their tools? Look up how Shay's Rebellion went. ALL successful revolutions in places that didn't turn into shitholes afterwards depend on one or both of the following: A. Support from within the local elite. B. A foreign land who can provide support.
>>563 Best comment about the chimpouts I Have read so far.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/30/celebrities-called-out-donating-protester-bail-fun/ https://twitter.com/ReadLinkola/status/1267521110742110208 Do not take fedposters seriously. Star Wars and Harry Potter lied to you. There aren't spontaneous revolutions that happen just from the rulers being meanies. None that are successful. See also the crushing of the Injuns and Celts
>>569 >There aren't spontaneous revolutions that happen just from the rulers being meanies. This is true. Very rarely do things like this happen spontaneously, and this is a good example of an astroturfed event. Some thug with many prior crimes dies, the MSM latches onto the story and stirs up nigger and Antifa anger, and gets them out onto the streets to loot and destroy. There’s always a controlling brain to what would otherwise be an brainless herd.
>>563 >Do you really think White Nationalists or whatever wouldn't be drone striked if they tried doing a mass movement against the Deep State with no major support from the elites and their tools? Not him but yes. You'd be treated far better than niggers. Look at recent protests on both sides (incl blocking access to hospitals from Qfags). Only the media and small extreme counterprotest groups care, and half of the media doing that is for image.
>>650 >(incl blocking access to hospitals from Qfags). weird way to spell "armed occupation of town halls by rednecks". you wouldn't get mass left-wing or central media backing (:0) but no-ones going to stand on someone's neck let alone have military intervene. the president wont even pretend were terrorists no matter how jewed he is. anyway, police won't shoot their own lads.
>>650 Fedposter.
>>569 This may not be "the event" itself, however it is probably representative of an escalation towards such a conflict. >>563 The establishment probably has less control of the negroes and spics than you think. Yes they wield them as weapons, but its possible (and quite probable) that it will blow back in their faces at some point.
>>677 Name all the times Niggers and Beaners had any meaningful oppposition to Globohomo. Not wanting Whitey around them doesn't count.
>>677 >The establishment probably has less control of the negroes and spics than you think A good recent example of this is how the niggers attacked CNN's headquarters in Atlanta. Surely (((Jeff Zucker))) wasn't betting on that one. The biggest problems that Jews have in controlling the masses, especially after they agitate them into a frenzy, is keeping them under control and making sure that they do not overstep and attempt to consume even the masters themselves. Right now all of the corporate support being given out is partially for profit (of course) but also to show the niggers and cucked whites that these establishment corporations and institutions are "on their side". They don't want them too radical. The Jews' success so far is because they work their plans gradually through subversion and propaganda before attempting in a single swoop to change the conditions
>>679 >pretending CNN has any deep position within the system rather than just being a tool that can be disposed of >being this desperate to live out lumpen fantasies and/or LARP as a revolutionary Repeat After Me: Spontaneous Revolution isn't real. And the Deep State would have no problem crushing any sorts of "grassroots" revolt with drone strikes, using their own local operates, etc.
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>>680 You misunderstand my post if you think it talks about spontaneous revolution. I think this post is very accurate: >>570. This is why I use phrases like "they agitate them into a frenzy". Those in power provide the marching orders and lay the groundwork for the events that follow. There is a possibility of agitating the masses too much and being devoured by them too. I don't think it's going to happen, though. You might be right though with what you said about CNN. Just like these other multi-billion dollar globohomo corporations like Target they don't mind if they take damages. >>being this desperate to live out lumpen fantasies and/or LARP as a revolutionary Not even sure what you're talking about here.
>>678 Your thinking is too simple. The blacks/browns don't need to be consciously attacking elites to harm them. As a for instance, what if the elites are unable to stop this riot shit happening across the country. Chimpouts on this level, going long enough, will continue to wake white people up. It can even lead to a full on racial conflict. A conflict is obviously not to the elites benefit. Of course this shit could be corralled in eventually and people move on from it. But what about the next one? Or the one after that? My point is sooner or later, they will have overplayed their hand. Or maybe America slinks on with no fighting back and becomes a 3rd world Brazil-esque shithole, who knows. >>680 >drone strikes This is the same retarded thinking that lead American leadership to believe they could easily crush some Vietnamese farmers. This does not work. Of course blacks might get scared when the troops/tanks role in and disperse. But maybe not if they are riled up enough. And certainly if white people ever did become emboldened, they would not be scared so easily. At that point, bombing civilians just creates more enemies. The US government/military is a paper tiger, it is not as much a threat to an emboldened populace as you think. >>680 >Spontaneous revolution is not real Right, people won't just randomly decide to take up their pitchforks. They need a leader(s). How is it so unlikely that something like that happens? Not all blacks are retards, some are capable of actual leadership. If some blacks on the ground manage to take control of these rioters instead of elites, you could be headed in a conflict direction.
>>698 >Your thinking is too simple. The blacks/browns don't need to be consciously attacking elites to harm them. Tell me more on how some Negress twerking in front of a building is defeating the elites who control the military and resources around Murica. >As a for instance, what if the elites are unable to stop this riot shit happening across the country. Tell us more on how the elites who control the military wouldn't stop 80s IQ Niggers and bugmen and childless women from rioting. >Chimpouts on this level, going long enough, will continue to wake white people up. It can even lead to a full on racial conflict. A conflict is obviously not to the elites benefit. >muh race war fantasies Yawn. The riots here aren't any worse than the ones back in the 1970s. Whites in America didn't do muh dey o duh roop then just as they haven't in South Africa. There will never be a great revolt within the system. The only hope you have is that there's a mass collapse like in the Bronze Age. >Of course this shit could be corralled in eventually and people move on from it >he unironically believes that forces within the system didn't set up the riots to begin with Read Jouvenal. It's High and Low against Middle that also includes High using the Low against other Highs. >This is the same retarded thinking that lead American leadership to believe they could easily crush some Vietnamese farmers. >he unironically believes the Vietnamese singlehandedly beat Murica They were repeatedly crushed on the field and depended on outside assistance to not be burned away. >Of course blacks might get scared when the troops/tanks role in and disperse. But maybe not if they are riled up enough. Please, Niggers are cowards. They only act how they do since they know Whitey won't touch them. Have them annoy the Deep State and suddenly BLM will be disavowed as terrorists with show trials, mass lock ups of Niggers. >And certainly if white people ever did become emboldened, they would not be scared so easily. LARP. The state had no real problem exterminating the Amerindians when they got uppity and crushing Shay's Rebellion. The minority of rebels (and get real, they would be a tiny) would have no notable support from other lands and have propaganda working against them. >The US government/military is a paper tiger, it is not as much a threat to an emboldened populace as you think. The destruction of countries like Iraq and Syria point otherwise. >Right, people won't just randomly decide to take up their pitchforks. They need a leader(s). None of the elite supports you. Trump alone would crush any White Nationalists chimpinout against the Deep State. >Not all blacks are retards, some are capable of actual leadership. If some blacks on the ground manage to take control of these rioters instead of elites, you could be headed in a conflict direction. You can't even name a time such a force won wars against an entrenched elite.
>>450 is https://www.bitchute.com/video/qaUpZN0DughL/ the same speech? >>678 think of negroes as zombies; once (((they))) release their ghoul army and things escalate beyond certain point, they have zero guarantees that their nigger golems won't start attacking their masters as well.
>>701 >vietnamese had support from chinks Yes, that was important. And somehow that's not possible today? Chinks hate the US as much as in the past, they could very well support groups to destabilize the country. Also, Mexico could offer de-facto support just by being a staging ground, even if they can't offer any significant material support. >Iraq and Syria Iraq fought a conventional war, that is the sort of war the US military can win. A conflict within the US would be guerilla war, the kind it cannot win. As I said, drones/nukes/other assorted heavy weapons will only lay waste to your own country and create more enemies for you. I don't get your point about Syria, they are still kicking. >>702 This guy gets it. I don't feel like responding to the rest, you clearly just think the elites are omnipotent gods or something who have perfect control over everything and nothing could ever possibly go wrong for them or backfire on them.
>>702 Stop living in your fantasies of Whitey and Niggers beating the Deep State on the ground like in some shitty children's movie or Murican propaganda. >>703 >Chinks hate the US as much as in the past, they could very well support groups to destabilize the country. And what groups are those? Antifa? Some fed infested White Nationalist club? >Also, Mexico could offer de-facto support just by being a staging ground, even if they can't offer any significant material support. It's a shithole filled up with cartels and what state is there will be cowed by the Deep State if need be. What, you're going to build your Beaner army there? Do more LARPing? >A conflict within the US would be guerilla war, the kind it cannot win. >Guerillas never lose wars when their enemies are actually out to kill them You wouldn't have any resources to control and no propaganda to support you. No notable countries who'd support you meaningfully (especially not China who aren't interested in playing such geopol outside of securing their own backyard). >As I said, drones/nukes/other assorted heavy weapons will only lay waste to your own country and create more enemies for you. You're still living under the fantasy that you'd have the hearts of minds of the country supporting you. They wouldn't be Drone Striking Mom and Pop shops, they'd be bombing White Supremacist Terrorists who wanna kill all the gays. >I don't feel like responding to the rest, you clearly just think the elites are omnipotent gods or something who have perfect control over everything and nothing could ever possibly go wrong for them or backfire on them. Found the lolberg.
>3 What makes Fascism more likely to produce a benevolent leader than Communism? From a snek's eye view they seem equally based in optimistic faith and it's not like you can change your mind once they seize power.
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>>710 >equally based in faith You have to have faith in your glorious leader anon! Except if they're a dirty commie redshit of course.
>>707 >(especially not China who aren't interested in playing such geopol outside of securing their own backyard) HA HA HA OH WOW And you have the audacity to call someone a lolberg for not thinking governments are gods you took the china/nk fascist pill not the evropa fascist pill
>>707 >the deep state Do you think the "deep state" is sitting in some dark room at a round table chanting incantations that will bring about the destruction of the goyim or something? Call them elites/globalists/deep state/kikes/whatever, this is real life not some fucking movie. They are probably not as centrally organized as you think, and like I already said they are not gods. But I guess having a realistic outlook makes me a lolbert I'm not really a fascist either though
>>712 China is the lesser problem. And they're not the ones blaming Russia for societal dysfunction. >>713 Whatever you yap about. Don't be too disappointed when there's no great rebellion on the ground formed by a team of multicultural superheroes/wizards (at least not one that's not backed by the Deep State or its tentacles).
>>710 Define benevolent. What a communist would find benevolent would be totally different from a fascist’s conception
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>>713 >Do you think the "deep state" is sitting in some dark room at a round table chanting incantations that will bring about the destruction of the goyim or something?
Kek, Nein is down again.
>>754 Last time admin said it was server going down, not giving any specific reason, at least not due to external attacks. Let's see how much it lasts this time. Inb4 everyone is v&.
>>755 >Inb4 everyone is v&. That's the first thing that comes to my mind. Periodically shutting down the server to forward everything to the feds. I'm just curious why this keeps happening.
>>756 I have asked, admin gave me the answer I told you
>>757 And that answer is what? That it was the server going down? Why did that happen in the first place? It's kind of a non-answer from the admin, honestly.
>What kikery is this? Neinchan down for anybody else? >vvadkyuldkwon6za.onion/pol/catalog.html unable to connect, AGAIN! Wat do?
>>758 Server mainteinance or server routine stuff, something like that. I have no idea if this is normal.
>>778 >Wat do? At least we have our /fascist/bros here
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I think this is the longest that Neinchan's ever been down. If it's not back soon I'm gonna be worried
Maybe someone will make Tarrant thread here?
>>856 I've got you
>>857 >>856 Get in here, Neinchads: >>858
>>813 >At least we have our /fascist/bros here kek, I recognize some folks ITT and on /k, seems all of nein is here rn lol
>>859 Thank you
>>740 Considering we have confirmation now china is funneling counterfeit currency in the US and has direct ties to many of the jews and traitors in the colleges who have poisoned our youth with Communist ideas, your post and disregarding of china as a threat seems retarded at best.
nein is up again
>>950 Finally, hopefully we get an explanation for this outage.
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>>950 Yes, finally. BO, consider the suggestion to stay in contact with Nein admins, maybe they can help you with the whole bunker VS independent board question. >>952 pic related, apparently
I don't want to bore you with e-celeb bullshit, but skip to 17:40 to see something interesting: https://invidio.us/watch?v=1JvmK7XH1Ao
>>1244 I love hearing him talk about Mishima. I think he really gets the messages behind this stuff. Listening to him discuss Runaway Horses with its themes of the purity of youth, action and the importance of the unity of thought and action, it feels like he gets it all. He's a fascist at heart, there's too much evidence.
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amidoinitrite?
>>1257 Absolutely based. I love that story from the Srimad Bhagavatam. Added
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>>1261 fuck yeah. thank you.
Did Hitler say anything about Leon Degrelle? got some rather obstinate christcucks who think he lauded him as the son he never had.
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>>1331 The "son" thing is something that Degrelle, if I recall correctly, is something that Hitler told him allegedly: >Of Leon Degrelle Hitler said: "If I should have a son I would like him to be like Leon." http://vho.org/GB/Journals/JHR/3/4/Degrelle441-468.html I looked around in Table Talk too and found only a single mention of Degrelle and it was very dry and nothing even worth quoting here. I can't find anything directly from Hitler that isn't secondhand, at least from short dig
>>1333 So basically it's that Degrelle claimed that hitler loved him to give himself and his Rexism more legitimacy? as I thought, thanks brother.
>>1334 Potentially, there's no way to really know. If anyone has any counter evidence, lemme know >>1333 >The "son" thing is something that Degrelle, if I recall correctly, is something that Hitler told him allegedly: Kek I just realized what a word salad this is
I posted this in another thread thinking it was this one No clue if this is the best place to ask but might as well. Does anyone have that screencap that talks about how taking down statues is only done to kill a peoples spirit? The original post was made around the time this practice became popular and it referenced an incident in some roman civil war where they beheaded some leader but kept his statues up for that exact reason. Hell if you know what incident I'm talking about that would be great. I need to share that image around but I can't find it fucking anywhere.
>>1340 I might have it let me look through my screencaps and shit.
>>1340 Either don't have or can't find it, i really need to reorganize my computer.
>>1340 Whenever the people in control of a location changes they change what it looks like. It has nothing to do with people's spirits. It's enforcing your culture over your defeated opponents.
What was the Vril society? How did it differ from the Thule society? Is telepathic communication with spiritually ascended masters on your to-do list?
What does everyone think about CT and his idea to organize? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZiJMOU81go Personally I don't like the idea of showing my face but it's not on discord and he's the only one that has to talk to you face to face, so it doesn't sound too bad.
>>1478 It sounds interesting and I think I will try at the very least check out the "phase one" chat. I don't dislike CT, but I have some concerns about his vision for America though. He has softened up where it matters most over the years. The face thing is fair, I guess. I mean, I have no reason to believe that CT is a fed or anything, and he puts himself out there, but I think the biggest concern is whether that service is even secure. We do need to organize in real life though, 100%. Places like this are a means to an end in my mind, and not an end in themselves.
>>1478 bro by his looks hes slowly transforming into joe rogan, i dont know if i trust him anymore. the easiest criticism is he preaches white nationalism will never work in america, etc, he stays away from the really harsh topics while putting fascism out there. its easy to criticse lukewarm pundits like him and nick fuentes and even going up to zion don, but lukewarm guys like these are what we need and they are helping to prime people to accept the harder truths in life or at least pave the way for the actions of those have accepted harder truths.
>>1495 Well said, I think he's really mellowed out a lot even since I started watching him over two years ago. He's slowly gone down the path more of just praising shitty Third World dictatorships like that of Iraq, or in Libya or Burkina Faso under Sankara, not to mention literal Marxists. His association with Duginists like Keith Woods says a lot too. For Thug to give up for all intents and purposes on White Nationalism is tantamount to admitting defeat in my mind. White Nationalism is growing undeniably the demographic problems are only going to become a bigger and a bigger issue. Preaching some sort of weird vision where America becomes some sort of "multiracial Roman Empire" is not the solution.
>>3 Anybody have the picture of Red Skull in Captain America making sense?
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So, what happened with the Hoppe board? I don't see any posts newer than a month old there. Are we simply not using it?
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>>1529 Something happened where it apparently ran out of space and stopped allowing users to submit any posts of all, basically making it impossible for anyone to post on any of the four boards. Now this in itself is fine and probably happens sometimes, but what was weird about the entire situation is that, having noticed this issue along with other users, I reached out and contacted the admin of the site - someone who previously had been very responsive to my emails and suggestions - but once it went to shit like that he never responded, and still hasn't responded. He never responded to me, and he never responded to the BO of /monarchy/ and /liberty/ either. I later emailed him again when I was attempting the 8moe move and I got zero replies again. If Hoppe had worked out it would have been great, but I don't know what the fuck happened. It's disappointing to say the least.
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>>1478 Call me optimistic but I bet this board organizing themselves would be more competent than anything CT would manifest into IRL.
>>1497 >He's slowly gone down the path more of just praising shitty Third World dictatorships like that of Iraq, or in Libya or Burkina Faso under Sankara, not to mention literal Marxists Has this board already forgotten it's origins?
>>1546 We've ascended, he's descended.
>>1547 He's the same as always
>>1514 Luv u
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>>1651 You just know some based Pajeet tried to fix the error in his ways by providing him that instead of that Talmudic manifesto
What are /fascist/'s views on Howard Phillips Lovecraft?
>>1651 Based Kashmir Aryan. >>1729 I could never get into his books, way too long-winded and obtuse. But he hated niggers and reading his writings on them gives me joy. Seemed like a good guy,
>>1729 I don't know about his works, but maybe sometime i will try to read it. The fact that many libtards and sjw are kvetching about his "racist, sexist & fascist views" and claim that his monsters are "metaphors" not for aliens , but for "racial minorities", gives me another reason to definitely read his books. Just type is google "lovecraft racism" and read it yourself. He also was an "antisemite", despite his only wife Sonia Greene, being jewish, lol. Maybe this is why they divorced so fast. And speaking about his fascism, Lovecraft viewed "Nazism" and "Hitler" as "lesser of evils" compared to Bolsheviks and Marxists. (picrelated).
>>1745 not only that, but HP Lovecraft named his cat 'Niggerman'. and then there's this lovely poem: On the Creation of Niggers (1912) by H. P. Lovecraft When, long ago, the gods created Earth In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth. The beasts for lesser parts were next designed; Yet were they too remote from humankind. To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man, Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan. A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure, Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.
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>>1750 That poem seems pretty in accordance with reality to me kek. People need to realize that the boundary between man and animal is blurry, and there is a continuum rather than a clean break. This is why non-whites and Jews are so afraid of evolutionary theory
>>1476 Iv had a meditation experience where I sought them out, I tried it once and have not done it again since. No drugs, because that shit's for pussies( when done for the wrong reasons), I was trying to find a path to "initiation" where I was following a path in a forest, as I reached the edge of the forest a cave appeared inside the cave was an old but virile man, I told him what I sought and he smugly smiled at me, he showed me my desires, I felt as if I was being tested and to be blunt I failed and was "told" that I am not ready. So yes Iv tried to contact them but my failure pushed me to concentrate on overcoming my desires. If you want to continue down a similar path Id recommend reading Evola's books on magic and the Books Serrano wrote. Serrano is allegorical as fuck so be prepared to let your mind form conclusions based on what you experience while reading. >>1729 Lovecraft wrote using the unknown as a major theme and his work on the re-animator had a nigger be the unknown re-animated creation, an animalistic and primitive mind to scare the shit out of you. Moderns get their panties in a twist over it because of that and his many opinions. I enjoy his stories but I don't find them "scary" as in jump scare but more unsettling dread mixed in with horrified fascination.
I cannot post browsing from onion address. How so?
>>1840 It seems to be working extremely slow right now. I usually the normal anon.cafe address when I post here usually, and I tried to submit a post to you from there, but it wouldn't go through, staying at 100% until I lost patience. Seems like something is running a bit weird or something.
>>1841 I just managed to make a post, but it took several attempts before it worked. Something is definitely up.
>>1795 > I told him what I sought and he smugly smiled at me, he showed me my desires, I felt as if I was being tested and to be blunt I failed and was "told" that I am not ready You desire to be ready so you'll never get it. Sorry, bub >>1476 >Is telepathic communication with spiritually ascended masters on your to-do list? U have it already lmao
I don't know how to work this without coming off as fedposting but... Why is it, that when violence is advocated, the very idea of targeted, subtle but symbolic violence, such as threatening/gangstalking talking heads doesn't seem to ever be considered, but the false dichotomy seems to be "peacefully marching through the institutions (that hate us)" or loudly and publically announcing nonspecific and nondirect extreme violence?
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>>1997 I have a feeling that when people are willing to risk their freedom or lives through a violent act, that they either want to carry out a huge attack and catch all of the attention, or they don't feel that it is worth it at all. Unfortunately "huge attack" seems go for, at least these days, the biggest body count possible instead of thinking in terms of quality over quantity. But then again the reason people likely avoid this is because it is easier to go for soft targets.
>>2009 Well it's partially because there's no organization and not a lot of thought to it. I know organization is difficult for a myriad of reasons, and I know antifa gets away with a lot of shit because the state doesn't see them as a threat, if not are outright using them, but I think there's something to their weapon choice generally being things that "could" kill you but likely won't. The general feeling I get from the populace is that people will tolerate most things up until actual human death.
>>2064 >I think there's something to their weapon choice generally being things that "could" kill you but likely won't. Yes, there is definitely a feeling of strength that is projected when one is in a position like this. This type of intimidation by mere presence alone is one of the benefits that comes from good organization. >The general feeling I get from the populace is that people will tolerate most things up until actual human death. Humanism is a hell of a drug.
>>1729 He's my favorite pulp author and one of my favorite writers full-stop. His prose can be a little purple at times, but that's fine by me. He valued his heritage which is worthy of my respect as well. On Hitler he said, "I can't help but like him!" or something to that effect in a letter. >>1745 Well, he told Sonia that "You are a Lovecraft, now," when he was naming the jew around her, which implies to me that he didn't much care for her kike heritage. I wish I knew the source of that quote - I believe I read it in a collection of his works long ago. Also, don't fall for the air conditioner meme - he wrote a short piece called "Cool Air" about a man who kept himself alive long past his would-be death by living in cooler and cooler air. This retarded the decomposition of his body until he ended up rotting before the narrator. Retards use this story to say he was "afraid of air conditioners." They are, of course, kikes and niggers who hope no one reads the story. Recommended material (this is decidedly not /fascist/ but nonetheless good fiction: The Horror at Red Hook Dagon The Shadow Over Innsmouth The Colour Out of Space (my favorite) The Call of Cthulhu Dream-Quest of Unknown Kaddath At the Mountains of Madness - read this last as it's a culmination of much of his other work's themes. It has an air of finality to it. I also think his letters, mainly about his beloved Rhode Island, are worth a read.
>>1997 Targeted violence does get considered by some but it is ill advised. Every now and then there is someone on 4chan who might make a bomb threat or a "some of you alright, don't come to school tomorrow" sort of post, or some boomer on facebook or insta might start sending gamer rants to a local politician with some tough talk of being capable of violence. Point is whether it's an anonymous platform or not, such threats do get actioned by feds because they present specifics. This is probably why everyone screeches FEDNIGGER at the slightest implication of violence on almost every right wing imageboard. Promoting violence against specific enemies if the race is all well and good until some retard makes it obvious that he's in the area and willing to act, ending up arrested. It may be safer and at the same time more valuable to encourage technique development of violence or threat of violence against certain character archetypes. A lawyer, or a judge for instance. Would anon know how to find some rat kike nigger loving judge? Whitepages would be a good start but if they're not listed because they paid to scrub their info, what then? Does anon know how to remain inconspicupus and follow some judge in Minecraft to their car? How to turn a phone into a GPS recording device he can plant on the judge's car then retrieve it to find their home and other typical stops? Should anon risk using a sim card to get the GPS data in real time even if cops can use it to find anon should the phone fall in their hands? Anyway, food for thought. It could very well be its own thread but I'm not a regular here and don't know if cafe wants or needs the sort of attention it would bring.
>>2133 That's kind of my point though, no one should be making threats as loud as they can at all. Threatening someone doesn't always have to mean "HEY EVERYONE. I'M GONNA BEAT THIS GUY UP. NO REALLY I'M GONNA DO IT. EVERYONE PLEASE WASTE YOUR LUNCHTIME AND LISTEN TO ME BEAT UP THIS GUY IN THE HALLWAY!"
>>2124 I've got to say, my favorite out of the list is the Dream-Quest of Unknown Kaddath. Its fantastic dream setting is definitely a breath of fresh air compared to the normalfags hyping up Cthulu, and the subject matter brings me back to my own dreamscapes.
>>2158 Normalfags who hype up Cthulhu and "The Cthulhu Mythos" haven't actually read any of Lovecraft's work and only know it through parodies and osmosis.
Neinchan down again for anyone else?
>>2259 yep
>>2266 Try again, it seems to be working now
>>2259 >>2266 wait its back!
What are the issues you have with Christianity or what flaws do you think it contains that harm fascism or Europeans?
>>2282 Short answer: kike on a stick Long answer: Christianity has no concern for the quality of individuals, only caring for piety and devotion to its tenets. In fact, the concern for the Christian quality of individuals is so low that there are Christians who actively and vehemently fight against all abortions, even ones that would stop monsters and abominations from being born. Where I live it is now a felony to knowingly abort a fetus with Down syndrome, and this is all thanks to Christians. Now, one could easily say "well not all Christians", but if we look back in the past we can see Christians fighting against other measures in favor of quality such as the National Socialist eugenics programs like T4-Action. So there is a least a significant and ongoing resistance among Christians against breeding a better race. This is a direct product of spiritual equality and an over-valuation of individual human lives that is rampant in Abrahamism in particular. The truth is that most people are wholly worthless in the grand-scheme. It is rare individuals of genius who are of worth. Likewise nearly all religions that have gained a foothold in this world, unfortunately they are life-denying with the seeds of nihilism embedded within them. This world has no purpose within itself ― it's only a "test" for Abrahamics, or some sort of endless cyclical occurrence of suffering that is to be escaped, such as in some Dharmic religions. Related to this, Christianity is a form of slave morality that arose from Judaism. It is the antithesis to the classical worldview of our ancestors, a healthy and vital worldview. I can't put it better than Nietzsche did in Twilight of the Idols: >Christianity, which springs from a Jewish root and is understandable only as a growth on this soil, represents the countermovement to every morality of breeding, of race, of privilege—it is the anti-Aryan religion par excellence: Christianity as the revaluation of all Aryan values, the triumph of chandala values, the gospel preached to the poor, the lowly, the general rebellion ofall the oppressed, the miserable, the failures, the unfortunates, against “race”—the immortal chandala vengeance as a religion of love. . . Also, I am unable to understand why Christians do not see the Old Testament for what it is, the story of Jewish Supremacists and their desert god. The Mosaic Covenant is best interpreted as a program for Jewish world-domination. Keep God's statutes, commandments, ordinances and obey them, then God will raise the Jews high above all other nations (goyim) and be his treasured people (Deut 26:17-19). All of the Jews undertakings will be blessed, they will lend to many nations (goyim) but not borrow (Deut 28:12). The Jews are told that "You shall devour all peoples your God is giving over to you, showing them no pity; you shall not serve their gods for that would be a snare to you" (Deut 7:16). All gold and wealth of the goyim will be heaped together in Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:14). And finally in Isaiah we can see an exact layout of what the NWO will look like. Nations will come to submit to Zion and serve it, bringing their wealth. Those who refuse to submit will be annihilated (Isaiah 60:10-22). At this time the Jews "shall suck the milk of nations" (60:16). Strangers will tend the flocks of the Jews and foreigners will till their land and dress their vines (61:5). The House of Israel will possess the nations (goyim) as male and female slaves in the Lord's land (14:2). This describes nothing but the subjection of the entire Earth to Zion and the reduction of the goyim to slaves and servants of Jewry. There are other issues which I could focus on such as the belief that all of humanity comes from one source, or other issues with universalism or stuff you've probably heard a million times, but this post is getting long
I've been looking into Fascism more and more and I've heard some conflicting information from many sides so I wanted to ask here since I figure this is the place for it: Is it a requirement that Fascism is ruthlessly authoritarian? I hear from one side (anti-fascists, etc.) that Fascism is meant to annihilate the Human spirit and is ruthless in its implementation. The other side (Fascists, etc.) say otherwise. That fascism as an ideology (wherever/however it is used) isn't meant to demolish the Human spirit but make it grow and doesn't have to be ruthlessly authoritarian to be Fascist. So what is it? Does Fascism need to be ruthless and soul crushing, can it be a force of spiritual good and even allow freedoms? I genuinely want to learn. I've been sliding into the ideology but I want to make double damn sure I know what it is I'm getting in to.
>>2311 >people against fascism say that fascism is bad >people for fascism say that fascism is not bad >I just don't know which to believe, please tell me what to think I'd advise you to take a look at some of the videos in the Aesthetics thread - ask yourself whether those crowds of people look like their spirits have been broken or crushed. Fascism is authoritarian, but only in the sense that a fascist state expects certain things from its people - to quote Mosley, "In the public life we ask of men a greater obligation and a higher service. In private life in return we accord them a greater freedom." The greater obligation I personally will ask of you is to stop inserting a line break between every sentence in your posts. It's tacky.
>>2315 The line break was a failing I'll admit, I didn't realize I'd done it until I already posted it. My apologies, anon. I'll check out the videos. I just want to make sure of what it is I'm getting into. Thanks man. I appreciate it!
>>2311 >Is it a requirement that Fascism is ruthlessly authoritarian? Fascism is authoritarian. We recognize that hierarchy is an unavoidable part of life, but instead of attempting and failing to artificially social-engineer it away, we embrace it and recognize that it is great individuals fundamentally who "make history" and innovate, create and lead. Hitler spoke on this in Mein Kampf. We are a worldview which values quality over quantity. Far from wanting to "demolish the Human spirit", we strive to elevate the best and brightest to the positions where they can tangibly contribute and to both their own potentials and for the good of the nation. It is Marxism and related ideologies which lionize the masses and fight against those who are different, higher, superior and the like which truly strive to demolish the Human spirit, denying differences in quality, potential and abilities. As the other anon said, go and look at some of the stuff in the aesthetics thread here, or look at any video of Hitler speaking to crowds. If the spirit of the German people (to give one example) was so crushed by National Socialism, why do the crowds look so happy and enthusiastic when they see Hitler, the man who pulled them out of crushing poverty, inflation and degeneracy and brought about a newly resurgent Germany free from the injustices of Versailles. Similarly, the reunification of Germans in 1938 with Austria was no "takeover". It was called the "Blumenkrieg" for a reason. The entering Germans were showered with flowers, and troops from both Austria entered Germany, and vice versa
>>2299 doubly digitz r gud You should read the first chapters of Might is Right, it's got a scathing description of that mental and homosexual plague known as Christianity. Quotations from Chapter I: >The Commandments and laws and moral codes that we are called upon to reverence and >obey are themselves the insidious enginery of decadence. It is moral principles that >manufacture beggars. It is golden rules that glorify meekness. It is statute laws that make >spaniels of men. >A man may keep every one of the Ten Commandments and yet remain a fool all the days >of his life. He may obey every written law of the land, and yet be a caitiff and a slave. He >may “love Jesus,” delight in the golden rule and yet continue to the hour of his death, a >failure and dependent. Truly the way to hell is by fulfilling the commandments of God. If >the all-conquering race to which we belong, is not to irretrievably dwindle into >multitudinous nothingness, (like the inferior herds it has outdistanced or enslaved) then it >is essential that the Semitic spider webs (so astutely woven for ages into the brains of our >chiefs) be remorselessly torn out by the very roots, even though the tearing out process be >both painful and bloody. >If we would retain and defend our inherited manhood, we must not permit ourselves to be >forever rocked to repose, with the sweet lullabies of eastern idealisms. Too long we have >been hypnotized by the occult charm of Hebrew Utopianism. If we continue to obey the >insidious spell that has been laid upon us, we will wake up some dread morning with the >gates of hell — “of hell upon earth” yawning wide open, to close again upon us forever. >The idea of hell is in some respects a truthful conception, suggestive of actual fact. If we >terrestrialize the location, there is nothing inharmonious about it. Many a race, many a >tribe, and many a mighty empire has gone down into a grimly realistic sheol. Is it not >right and just, that the vile, the base and the degenerate (that is to say the slave nations of >the earth) should be punished pitilessly for their creeping cowardice? Is it not right that >they should be, as it were, fried and toasted — should swim in pools of boiling blood, or >dance sweltering satanic glees, with blistered feet and straining eye -balls on red-hot >Saharas of gravel and sand? >In actual operation Nature is cruel and merciless to men, as to all other beings. Let a tribe >of human animals live a rational life, Nature will smile upon them and their posterity; but >let them attempt to organize an unnatural mode of existence an equality elysium, and they >will be punished even to the point of extermination. MiR, Chapter II: Iconoclastic is way too big to be quoted here, the entire chapter must be read. https://archive.org/details/MightIsRight_201601
>>2311 >Is it a requirement that Fascism is ruthlessly authoritarian? I hear from one side (anti-fascists, etc.) that Fascism is meant to annihilate the Human spirit and is ruthless in its implementation. They are parroting the lies of communists who were fiercely opposed by Fascists. In light of the conditions faced by fascist nations, no soft measures were acceptable. Communists reproach Fascists using force, but Communists did too. The tale is the same with them, as you see, it is all about privileges. They talk about liberties until they get the power they were seeking and you're left with none. Lo, their tune has now changed and liberty is gone. They hate their enemies for using violence against them, this is true. Don't fool yourself, red scumbags will use violence as much as necessary but pretend that the other side using it is wrong, in regard to their much debased morals. This says enough about the wickedness of their ways. Fascists would not—and could not—honestly reproach their enemies using violence as Fascists know that ultimately, in this life, all is ruled by the act of war and the recourse to violence when proper order is threatened or when it must be reinstated. Now, this may sound brutal but once you observe Nature for what it is without do-gooder glasses, you realize it is true. All is based on competition, struggle. Does it make it a necessity to rely on an authoritarian regime? Too many people are used to the ways of republics, debates, laws and courts, but for ages, matters were settled in much more ruthless and pure ways. Observe what awaits us as generation after generation, we were soft, weak and afraid to stand up. Now we realize that if we had at least, not used violence, but shown a strong will to rely on it to get rid of our enemies, we wouldn't be where we stand today, on the edge of destruction. Again, Communists would not hesitate to rely on powder if they were allowed to do so. This swing both ways. You may not seek a strong authority, but nevertheless you should rejoin with your ancestors in a world view wherein the use of combat was the most noble way to settle matters if push came to shove. Ruthlessly authoritarian might be excessive, but a firm power by men clearly born with the potential to be masters is absolutely necessary. Nature calls for it. Under such auspices, everyone finds his place and class struggle becomes a distant memory. Our enemies would equate ruthlessness with abuse, irrate application of unjust power. No. The ruthlessness is in the neverending hunting of the forces of destruction ready to exploit the faintest of our weaknesses. It goes without saying that there is little justice to be found today and many men occupy functions they do not deserve, starting with the regal powers or whatever tries to mimic them. The impression that a strong application of force to subdue and defeat subverting elements supposes what Communists would call a tyranny is the result, in fact, of a skewed vision. Let them shriek. When disorder is at an all time high, strong order must be applied. Then, yes, at this specific time, truth and nobility command ruthlessness, lest our own sons and daughters be destroyed or enslaved, the latter being possibly worse all things considered.
>>1729 Fantastic dream world of terror, quite based on real life, but seems to have had a strong homo side.
>>1795 >No drugs, because that shit's for pussies( when done for the wrong reasons) But if for a snapchat with entities, would you call it right?
>>2325 Ragnar Redbeard's work is fantastic. It might be hard to swallow at first, but it's merely the way of Nature. Callicles in the Socratic dialogue Gorgias also speaks straight truth to Socrates' pilpuling dialectics, telling him to abandon philosophy and that the domination and exploitation of the weak by the strong is Natural Law: >What do we do with the best and strongest among us? We capture them young, like lions, mould them, and turn them into slaves by chanting spells and incantations over them which insist that they have to be equal to others and that equality is admirable and right. But I'm sure that if a man is born in whom nature is strong enough, he'll shake off all these limitations, shatter them to pieces, and win his freedom; he'll trample all our regulations, charms, spells and unnatural laws into the dust; this slave will rise up and reveal himself as our master; and then natural right will blaze forth. Callicles' coomer-tier hedonism was less admirable though. Still based.
>>2327 >Now, this may sound brutal but once you observe Nature for what it is without do-gooder glasses, you realize it is true. All is based on competition, struggle. I've absolutely noticed that. I think it's what started my path to Fascism in the first place.
>>2327 >In light of the conditions faced by fascist nations, no soft measures were acceptable. This is important. Life means eternal struggle but the environment fascists found themselves in in the 20/30's was particularly difficult. Societies were at breaking point and as it is said in the army too we had to break people first their old habits of destroying themselves like with the addict who needs to get over his addiction to build and consequently lift them up. That doesn't mean everybody will become a millionaire, in fact that would be frowned upon, it means everybody gets the place where he can apply himself best to the benefit of his Volk without anyone looking down on him for that. "Arbeit adelt" (roughly "working makes nobility") did the National socialists respectfully call it and this is far more fulfilling and rewarding than chasing a dygenic dream of jewish decadence.
>>2133 >This is probably why everyone screeches FEDNIGGER at the slightest implication of violence on almost every right wing imageboard. Which is the worst possible action you can take. We know the feds throw out a net across the whole thread. If you think someone is serious then reporting the thread and not posting in it is the best action. It stops you getting a target on your back.
Where did this wave of the Cuckchan-tier posts come from? More specifically in the Tarrant, Christian and in several other threads. Just very low effort, inflammatory and with lots of gratuitous redtexting and bolding
>>2365 It was probably one poster. Obvious outsiders appear occasionally and shit up multiple threads with no idea how we (usually) try to do things on this board. I've cleaned up several threads, including the Tarrant one. No doubt I will be accused of white-knighting for him again but schizo-tier posts get old fast.
>>2366 >whiteknighting Thanks for your work bro, if someone feels strongly about Tarrant being Mossad he can just make the case and an ass out of himself in am appropriate and separate thread, just like the islam poster. Of course we know this will get him nowhere since we also know this is not about serious discussion but board disruption but nobody shall say we haven't given him a chance.
>>2368 Well put. I wouldn't do anything about it if they were well-written posts written in good faith, but we've all seen these for over a year now and they're for, like you said, disruption. I hope posters like that do step up to the plate and make their own threads so I can laugh at them when they post once or twice and then get scared off (just like with the Islam anon)
>>2370 >I hope posters like that do step up to the plate I'd like to see that too if only to see actual arguments being traded and then have the better ones win. So far I've only seen tinfoil hat-tier stuff from the Tarrant is mossad faction. The islam anon at least tried, I give him that. Maybe he was even serious.
>>2371 Yeah the Islam dude seemed to be serious at least, seeing as how someone had pointed out that his image was also found on /islam/ with the exact same filename. I wish he would have stuck around.
>>2370 >in good faith, This is the shittiest argument in the history of arguments BO. You should be ashamed of yourself for using it. Even if it's not in "good faith" (which you have no way of knowing), being able to argue against those points is still a valid topic of conversation. It's often a good idea to debate against your own side in weaknesses you find in your own arguments to see how others approach it. You get to refine your ideas while understanding your enemies ideas better. Playing devil's advocate is important to prevent group think enforcing incorrect ideas through peer pressure. Writing anything off as "bad faith" is just a cheap excuse like "no hate speech is". You can't know why someone posted what they did. As long as a post is within the branches of OP I would leave it alone. I'm all for moderation when it's needed but don't over moderator because you think the poster was posting for reasons you don't like. As long as it has a base in the original topic let anons self moderate in threads. >>2371 People don't care about arguments unless they're autistic. It's important to understand how to talk around the illogical and win people over or the illogical will overwhelm you. You don't win anything for being right, you win only for getting more people to side with you. Don't fetishize logic, it won't save you when someone illogical wants to cave your skull in with a rock. I don't know enough about Tarrant to know about mossad connections or not. I'm not taking a side in this for that matter. We have a lot of conspiracy theorists in our circles and many fringe thinkers to put it nicely. Learning how to deal with them, derail them from making you look crazy by proxy and winning arguments with them is vital skills to have.
>>2382 You what? The Brenton thread is a place to share news not for lunatic fringe theories if he's an alien or a sandnigger in disguise. If people (read shills) can't stay on topic and keep order for whatever reason they have no business being on a /fascist board. This isn't anarchist central. Deal with it.
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>>2382 >being able to argue against those points is still a valid topic of conversation If you knew about the type of posts that were being deleted you wouldn't be embarrassing yourself like this. You yourself admitted you don't know much about Tarrant.
>>2382 >I don't know enough about Tarrant to know about mossad connections or not. I'm not taking a side in this for that matter. Yeah sure but you literally sound like the guy who got the boot
>>2383 Making a Tarrant thread means it's a thread about Tarrant. If people want to discuss fringe theories let them. No one said anything about an anarchist style moderation. >>2384 Looks like a bot rather than a poster. I knew he spent time in Israel but he was also a global homo who went every where. I would expect him to have gone to Israel. >>2385 Take your meds. I sound like someone who doesn't want the board to get censored by a BO who's shown he's prone to making rash decisions the anons disagree with. There's plenty of content I would like removed from the board (pro-islam stuff since it's destroying my homeland) but I don't advocate for removing that because I don't like it. I know in our circles we're going to find people who think turning to Islam is a good idea (it isn't, race traitors). We need to be able to pull those people away from there and get them back on track. That's the same way I see other fringe elements. Some of them are good people fed bad leads who can be redeemed, others are fucked in the head. I don't want the first group banned for posting in "bad faith". Banning someone for spamming the same line over and over is a spamming ban, it's not a bad faith ban. There's nothing wrong with a spam ban.
>>2441 Just fuck off d&c shill, it's not up to you how this board is run and what you want is irrelevant. Here you go, your thread is waiting https://8kun.top/pnd/res/76246.html Bye
>>2443 What a great quality post. You're such an asset to the board while acting like every pigchan /pol/ user.
>>2441 >We need to be able to pull those people away from there and get them back on track Yeah good luck with that. I'd rather listen to the words of Almighty God than some rando on /fascist/. He - glory be to Him - says: >'''This is the Book of Allah, there is no doubt in it; it is a guidance for the pious,for those who believe in the existence of that which is beyond the reach of perception, who establish Prayer and spend out of what We have provided them, who believe in what has been revealed to you and what was revealed before you, and have firm faith in the Hereafter.Such are on true guidance from their Lord; such are the truly successful. >As for those who have rejected (these truths), it is all the same whether or not you warn them, for they will not believe. Allah has sealed their hearts and their hearing, and a covering has fallen over their eyes. They deserve severe chastisement. ''' (Qur'an 2:2-7)
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>>2458 not anymore lol
>>2459 We've regained our spot for now. It's a battle of survival of the fittest going on right now
How true is it that Fascism is mortally dependent on war economy? Something tells me the ones who said that were talking out of their ass so I want some clarification. More detailed, what's the Fascist opinions on warfare?
>>2465 >How true is it that Fascism is mortally dependent on war economy? It's bullshit
>>2466 To elaborate on this a bit, there's no principle of fascism that can't be applied exactly the same way in peacetime.
>>2467 Massively appreciated! Something about it didn't sit right, so I knew some one's lying.
>>2468 No problem. To expand on what I said again I really should have just taken the time to write all of this out initially rather than make several posts, just think of various things that people have told you since coming here— such as being against liberal democracy, egalitarianism, the emphasis on building a better man, a united nation, the principle of leadership, opposition to degeneracy and the like. None of these requires warfare in any way, and if you really think about it, the principles that I listed above were mainstays in almost every society on the planet for millennia in one form or another. The ones who'll tell you that fascism needs an "enemy" or something to attack outside of itself are talking out of their asses. They don't ever think that Germany might have had a reason why they wanted to expand into the East (excessive population density, not enough farm land, no food security, etc), they just blame it all on National Socialism like Hitler sat down and thought he needed a reason to start a war for...reasons. If you haven't yet, check out Cultured Thug: https://www.bitchute.com/video/8ZNFr6idU1Wx/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/jessOBKeBk2A/
>>2469 I appreciate it, I'll save the links. Yeah I think the sources I'd heard from just went with what's emotional and parroted and spouted it out but like I said something just didn't sit right. There had to be more, ya know? They often did use the Lebensraum as an excuse but doing some thinking I figured how couldn't he? All those people, and the people who would come, would need all that room. For a while I parroted the same bullshit but I started smelling somethin' rank so I started exploring, questioning. Finally found myself here.
>>2470 Their hate-propaganda against Fascism and National Socialism is so absurd and non-nonsensical that it often makes people research more and, in some cases, come to the truth on these matters. Even when I was young and had no notions of White pride, the JQ, racialism or the like, basic factors of the narrative pushed down our throats in public education didn't add up -- they're the ones we've all heard before, such as why Hitler inexplicably hated and tried to kill all of the Jews in the middle of a massive war on two fronts. It's amazing how their entire system, more or less, depends on the idea that Hitler and the rest of the Axis were absolutely irredeemable, evil and irrational, and yet they give it such a flimsy foundation. Unfortunately, this is likely evidence that they count on the ignorance and herd-like nature of the masses who just unquestioningly accepts the narrative and prevailing political conditions.
>>2471 Pretty much. Their fervent hate and rabid speech made me think there HAS to be something on the other side, so I tried looking for it all.
sometimes it feels like this whole board is a glownigger op designed with a single goal to get SOMEONE to do some sort of terrorist attack that the MSM can use to vilify the right and get the goyim horde to destroy us.
>>2509 We've been around for two years with no incident, I'd say this would be a pretty bad track-record. We're just not afraid of bad goy topics and opinions, simple as that.
>>2509 If you want to go and blow up a federal synagogue then go and do it. Just have the balls to blame vidya and anime so we can laugh at all the weebs being called terrorists. You haven't spent enough time around radical elements if you think this board of fart sniffing philosophers is a real danger to any one. The dangerous people out there aren't having religious debates and reading books (except Siege). Those people are young, dumb and angry. The exact kind of people who don't engage in the kinds of discussions we do. /r9k/ is more dangerous than /fascist/ is. They have way more weirdos likely to go postal over sailor moon than we do.
>>2519 >Just have the balls to blame vidya and anime so we can laugh at all the weebs being called terrorists This. At least blame Cuckchan
Do all caucasians have an origin in the area known today as India?
>>2569 Aryans moved into India from the Iranian Plateau, but the Pontic–Caspian steppe is the true home of the Indo-Europeans if we are to believe what the research says. Of course there were Whites in Europe before these groups moved in though
>>2576 What known groups have an Indo-European background?
Why are white nationalists tolerating niggers among them?
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>>2585 It's been an ongoing trend
I'm becoming a regular here. I was hoping someone could explain technofascism to me? Is it as simple as Fascism that doesn't reject modern technology?
>>2600 Where have you seen this term used? I could be completely wrong, but it seems like another "meme ideology" that no one in the real world actually adheres to besides teenagers online. I found this definition on Wiktionary that basically confirms what you say: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/technofascism It's weird though, because obviously people in a modern context would usually (in most cases) the means available to them. So why don't we have Technocommunism? Technoliberalism, etc? Well of course we do but there's no meme-term for such a thing. I will say one thing though, the luddism that runs through much of this board is actually kind of unique to here. You might see it in other communities but it seems always to have been more prevalent here for one reason or another, same with the Hindu stuff.
>>2605 I've seen it sprinkled about. I mostly ask because I know there's Eco-Fascists who're extremely tech critical and primitivist. I personally am supportive of technology, long as it serves a purpose and isn't just done for the sake of it.
>>2606 I don't know if I'd call Eco-fascists necessarily primitivists, but yes we are far more tech-critical than the vast majority of the population. The techpill can be hard to swallow, but once one really starts looking into Linkola, Ellul, Kaczynski and Spengler's book on technics it becomes clear that something is wrong.
>>2600 >technofascism Frankly, to me this sounds like another example of labelling something broadly authoritarian as fascist.
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>>2608 That was my first though as well, and that's what the search results broadly seem to indicate as well. It's like when people use the gay term "Islamofascism"
>>2606 >Eco-Fascists I have not seen anything that would warrant Eco-fascism being seen as a distinct theoretical construct. Most who label themselves as Eco-fascist are either no fascists at all, just pretty serious in their environmentalism or actual fascists who just happen to be extremely concerned for nature. This is no alien concept to fascism though.
>>2610 Looking at my comment I realize how it sounded when I lumped eco-fascists in with primitivists, m apologies. I'm concerned for the environment too.
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>>2610 It's definitely a misnomer. Not even Pentti Linkola identified as a fascist (though he did praise National Socialism throughout his life). As far as I can tell it seems to have originated as a pejorative against extremist environmentalists and luddites of various types. The real distinguishing feature here is an acceptance of the principles of deep ecology, which isn't afraid of actually questioning the human relationship to our environment, anthropocentrism and various aspects of technology (unlike liberal "shallow environmentalism" which tries to sell you green-colored products and make you recycle occasional while keeping the System running at full capacity). Like you said, none of this is really even alien to fascism (esp. National Socialism) in the first place, we all know that the Third Reich was extremely ahead of its time in its measures against animal experimentation, animal cruelty, certain types of hunting, kosher slaughter, etc
>>2519 You never know, a /fascist/ fartsniffer might just have enough of anons calling the board mascot a nigger and go out at half past nine with a solvent trap on the muzzle of his hood cleaning boom stick with a subsonic .45 in the chamber and quietly goodify a local jogger looking for a construction site to visit. Said anon would be careful to wear a mask and pick up the casing to ensure there is no evidence and the police/media will call it more gang violence after it becomes revealed that the jogger had a criminal and drug history. Obviously anon cannot bring his phone along since LEOs would be able to use the mobile carrier data to figure out who was in the area at the time of the cleaning. This is not a call to action, merely a hypothetical scenario for someone who doesn't like the idea of spending his life in ZOGjail. You never shine if you don't glow.
>>2605 It's the BO. He likes posting long posts about voodoo shit.
>>2627 I’m definitely the reason why luddite stuff and paganism seem to have become so prominent here kek. I don’t purposely do it but since I post here daily and frequently it invariably shapes the direction of the board. I’m not the direct reason for the Hinduism though.
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Was hoping I could get an explanation (Even though I may get some hairy eyeballs for it) of the quote: "Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state. " I know this was Mussolini's simplification of Fascism but is it the order of law for all of Fascism? Or was it just his view?
>>2642 >"Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state. " This is just a slogan which nescessarily condense political complexities. While broadly true they don't apply to every thinkable particular situation. They are not law. So we should be wary to use single catchphrases without context to explain policy but admittedly the problem exists also with books. Mein Kampf for example was a big success but Hitler was never happy with it even kind of disowning parts of it because he felt it didn't portray that he thought correctly. He started a second book but he wasn't happy with it either and the project came never to fruition anyways.
>>2646 I appreciate the answer, Anon! I'll probably have more questions later, so I'll be a regular around here for a bit.
Opinions on the book adolf eichman false gods the jerusalem memoirs, is it good. Ja oder nein. Why can't WN simply castrate the coloured population and use them as slave labours(gulag style), genocide is too expensive. While slave labour will allow the state to rebuild itself after the revolution.
>>2689 Genocide would be less cost-draining that arranging the castration of millions, affording for their upkeep and trying to put them to work, honestly.
>>2691 >cuties >0w0 Fuck off, fag.
Opinions on the book adolf eichman false gods the jerusalem memoirs, is it good. Ja oder nein
>>2724 Do you really expect us to just translate 193 pages for you? Fuck off
>>2695 no need to feed, overworking will kill most of them. no? think of it like the soviet famines. If POC die in labour, we can simply shift the blame from ourselves but if we directly genocide image would be ruined.
>>2728 Oh, no, not our optics!
>>2728 If we've moved to the stage where we can actively enslave millions of non-whites and kill them off through labor, I think we're beyond caring about "optics". Optics is a tool of the weak, desperately trying to look good according to the law and the manipulated opinion of the masses. Those in power do not have to worry about optics, they merely do as they please. Might makes right.
Is this still the main server or are we moving to 8chan.moe?
>>2741 We had actually partially moved there back in early June, but it proved very controversial for the board and so I deleted it for the good of the board and after seeing enough of the arguments from anons showing the downsides of associating with anything that has to do with Mark or Acidman. So Anon Cafe's /fascist/ is our main board and there are, at the moment, zero plans to move anywhere else.
>>2743 Thank you, it was just to make sure to keep an eye out for the next move if there ever was one, i got left behind when the 8chan shutdown happened and it took me months to find you guys again on Julay, suffice to say i do not want that to happen a second time.
>>2750 >suffice to say i do not want that to happen a second time. Yeah hopefully we will never be in a situation like that again where we're all scattered to the wind with no place to go. But with how things are nowadays, who knows. We do have right now Neinchan (http://vvadkyuldkwon6za.onion ) as a good fallback, but my general policy has been to try to keep /fascist/ on the clearnet as long as possible for ease of being found and access for everyone.
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>>2751 nice i thought Nienchan died, a more complicated but more secure option would be to make our own mini internet, something far more off the grid than the dark web. unfortunately i am not educated enough, have the time or well off financially to create such a thing and it would be a pain in the ass to keep a server or servers running but if there are any tech savvy /g/ anons here with the time and money to spare it could be done, some anons over at Lainchan tried to do such a thing. https://lainchan.org/%CE%A9/res/14586.html
I do agree we should stay on the surface web for as long as we can but as Zion's iron grip on it grows ever tighter i am not sure how long that will be.
So is this the permanent home of /facist/ for now? or are we still thinking about going to julay for whatever reason. plz spoonfeed me ive been out of the loop
>>2754 It is the other way around we left Julay for here. it will (hopefully) be the permanent home.
>>2753 My thoughts exactly. >>2754 We were basically kicked of JulayWorld (or will be here soon) along with a bunch of other boards, purportedly because Robi thought the site had grown too big and he didn’t use a majority of the boards. I’m a little sad that we weren’t kept but I’m at least grateful to Robi for providing a place for us to setup after 8chan went down. So after skipping around a few places again that ended in disaster and controversy we’ve settled here for good hopefully Unless I ever try to figure out how to make my own site or board so we become self-reliant but I’m a total retard in this type of knowledge
>>2757 Like i said /g/ anons could help out with creating a website if there are any here.
>>2757 >(((purportedly))) Robi sold out, (((they))) want no big image boards because of the impact they can have, it's good ole divide & conquer disguised as oh guys we need to be more resilient, let's just scatter some more hhuehue
>>2764 I'll definitely be keeping stuff like this in mind. For now though, it's best to settle in a bit, from May until mid June was pretty rough, I'm not sure if anons (myself included) could handle another move right now. >>2765 Yeah I have no way of knowing what exactly happened but it pretty frustrating. /fascist/ was one of the earlier boards on Julay too if I recall correctly as well. Oh well, I think where we've settled now is even better. Very relaxed site, part of the webring, no drama, etc.
I've read the global ethno state thread and it's seems that no matter what whites are gonna win, so before my inevitable death can i have children with a white woman? I want atleast a small part of me to survive to witness the space reich.
>>2774 Hey, could I get a spellcheck thread going? I'm not sure how important it is to make for certain that we can write english in the most effective manner, but I would feel a lot better if I could get some people helping me out with spellchecking this. I'll also post another pdf that I need help with spellchecking. I won't make a thread about this unless I have your permission to do so, as it might not be purely fascist in nature and might go against your public presence.
>>2819 Sorry, you won't be able to see it.
>>2822 Honestly bro I don't even if I want someone posting a "pranking guide" here. I don't know if it's against global rules but the last thing I want is for Anon Cafe, not to mention this board to get in trouble for posting guides on how to carry out an attack and get away with it.
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>>2826 We can't afford to dilute our blood even by a drop. The Path of Life must ascend, never descend. This isn't an arbitrary demand, its a "commandment" of Nature / God.
>>2830 Care for your own kind. Neurotic self-hatred is a mental illness.
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>>2833 Take Nietzsche's advice that he gave to pessimists, depressives and decadents in The Twilight of the Idols. You can't help being born, but you can make up for this mistake by offing yourself and removing an objection to life from life. Nihilism, self-hatred and wishing you were a globalist slave-moralizing commie only underline this.
>>2825 Yeah, I understand. I don't want to ruin a good place. Hopefully things work out, but know that truth is often not enough to win a war. I don't want to get the federales running around with no reason, but at least in america, we're facing an open marxist coup attempt and we're in the middle of the iconoclasm stage and there will be a point of no return, with nowhere to run anymore. I hope we never reach that stage, but the time we have is short to decide that.
>>2843 You're right about everything you're saying and I agree. This board shouldn't be seen as an end in itself and if truth was enough things would be much easier. Things will come to a head soon, kikes are overstepping their bounds.
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>>2845 I just want everyone to be as aware as possible for the coming days and what might need to be done. I'm not going to encourage anything or describe my experiences, but that guide is in plain of language as I could think to use and is as compact as possible, with a few reservations for jokes. I personally think it's very important, but I can understand not wanting the optics or even the hosting of it here due to the nature of the FBI and their crackdowns. Just as a general rule, if you're smart about it and think it through, it can be gotten away with, no matter what it is you do. As much as I can hope for an open revolt against the jewish power structure, I don't believe that it will happen unless local resistance organizations are at the forefront and have no qualms about defending their country against those who seek to destroy it and all it's history and all we're seeing is bitching about it online, rather then any action in the slightest. The guide was written for the point after knowing there is nothing else to do but fight and be able to keep fighting on the next day, be it one or many. I don't want to see any lives ruined or good white people killed when it can easily be avoided. It's basically a guide for the tards who don't know anything at all. Anyways, there's already a fight on, it's whether we are willing to fight back and at what point that the level of action will be determined, if they are at our doorsteps and we still have our dicks in our hands, there is nothing to do but to fight and likely die. You won't escape a 14 man stack all with loaded semiautomatic rifles who are told to shoot at every shadow and movement they see and will face no consequences(ala Duncan Lemp, Waco, Ruby Ridge)
>>2833 Why would they be exterminated? We only eliminate those that make themselves our enemies (e.g. Marxists, and that's not even a racial thing, many of them are white). No reason to exterminate anyone else, it's a waste of time and resources and there's no justification for it, so it's wrong to do. It's stupid and impractical to think you could "kill everyone" just because, even if someone wanted to, not to mention it's immoral. If you're not calling for our deaths there's no reason to call for yours, the majority of people are just trying to get on with their lives. Calls for mass extermination are just glownigger shilling to make our side more radical than it ought to be and make us look even worse to outsiders. I should know, I've caught one on 8chan /pol/ before pushing for it, and cohencidentally after I called him out for samefagging because he messed up while IP hopping, the thread got deleted. I even checked archive websites to screenshot the posts but his posts (and only the ones with his IDs, no one else's) had been excluded from the archives for some reason, they literally just weren't there. So I know for sure they're doing stuff like that.
>>2850 Justifications for large scale extermination can be found, just read >>1259. Now total extermination? I'm not sure if that one is worthwhile. >not to mention it's immoral What are these morals based on? >Calls for mass extermination are just glownigger shilling to make our side more radical than it ought to be and make us look even worse to outsiders I disagree. And there's a huge difference between discussing ethnoglobe in places like this where it's typically all fascists, and parading around in the streets preaching total extermination of all non-whites. The former is just retarded. But if I had power I wouldn't have to care about optics or other garbage because might makes right. I say all of this, as usual, with the caveat that if we don't win back our own countries all will be lost, so this is distant future if anything.
Should Polygamy be encouraged? This would upset traditional values but it would increase the Aryan population, is it a good or bad idea?
>>2855 I support polygamy, but it could only come about through a radical shift in our conception of marriage. In our current society we see marriage as something based more and more on merely something as nebulous as “love”. Now, of course I don’t deny the importance of this feeling, but to think this exhausts what underlies marriage is absurd. Marriage is fundamentally a natural union of, at minimum, a male and female for the reproduction of the species. The community and race – even Life itself – has an interest in the quality and continual improvement of offspring. Taking quality into account above all, it is only natural to believe that monogamy imposed on all males limits the potential reproductive capacity of this person, making him reproduce on the same level as the average or lower-than-average masses. It’s egalitarianism in marriage. Women on the other hand, are in a way naturally monogamous, given the fact that their reproductive capacities are satisfied by a single man, and multiple husbands is an extremely rare phenomenon cross-culturally, and has been seen to degenerate (for obvious reasons) into a form of prostitution. Polygamy would have to be reserved to a small amount of very high quality individuals though, otherwise there can be too big of an imbalance. Even before we are in power we need to be having as many children as possible, and if you can get more than one wife (regardless of what the law says), you should get one, because even if we reproduce with 5-6 children a White Nationalist, there are still legions of liberal atheistic urbanites either not reproducing at all or reproducing below replacement level.
>>2855 > This would upset traditional values Ehh, chad men have had multiple wives basically during the entirety of human history apart from the last couple hundred years in the West. It's the 'traditional' take on values. Just don't try to justify thot's behavior with the idea, and you'll be OK Anon.
>>2853 Sure, attempts to make justifications have been made but I don't find them convincing. I disagree with the premises of this guy's post >>1259. It's still largely unnecessary and woefully impractical, and I stand by my statements that it's immoral. Overall just an absurd and fanciful idea. >what are these morals based on Like most of morality, empathy. My personal framework is somewhat Utilitarian (to put it simply), among other things. I believe what I do and support fascism because I want humans to flourish and for people to be happy, and I think this is the best way to do that. I don't see a need to rid the world of regular people that are not obstacles to that, that would just be unjust. Not everyone is your enemy just because the MSM makes it seem that way. >I disagree You may disagree but that doesn't change the fact that it's true, like I said I know for certain that feds were among those pushing the "ethnoglobe" idea on /pol/, although for the reasons I stated before I'm unable to provide proof, so I understand if you don't believe me, but as for myself I know it to be true. I know others have bought into those fanciful ideas but I see them as fools that just believe everything they see on /pol/, the gullible folks that make the work of glowniggers easier. Their goal is to divide and conquer, the way they do that is by making us bicker over trivial details and feel separated, gaslighting to make it seem as though everyone is our enemy and we're worse off than we think, and to shift our goals into ever more radical (less reasonable and will be met with more opposition) and thus unattainable territory (e.g. ethnoglobe crap). >>2855 I think polygyny should be allowed amongst our aristocrats, whoever those end up being. I think that's good for eugenics. For most it should remain monogamous, though, or kept to a minimum number of wives like in Islam.
>>2861 Empathy is a dubious basis for morality, as it is no absolute, and is relative from individual to individual and from culture to culture. Utilitarian philosophy is likewise bound to be subverted by the present order of things once one really thinks it through. Happiness / well-being of the largest amount of individuals could theoretically be posited only for whites, but it isn’t long before someone comes along and says “what about non-whites?” or “what about non-humans?” (Jews like Peter Singer). And according to the logic of this philosophy, there is no reason to not slide down this slippery slope. Nietzsche said it best in Twilight “If you have your why for life, you can get by with almost any how.— Humanity does not strive for happiness; only the English do.” Viewing as the ultimate good happiness or well-being is basically an endorsement of today’s egoistic Jewish materialism, where people chase material goods, live for their own petty personal goals and seek out the “good life”. The only true basis for “morality” (if we are to call it that) would be in the eternal Laws of Nature. Observing them with reason would lead one to realize how radically unnatural our current society is in how it repudiates hierarchy, improvement of the racial stock, places ridiculous value on individual lives and destroys its own natural environment for shekels. Basing your views on Nature makes you utterly bulletproof to the Jew.
>>2862 I had a feeling this would be a point of contention, which is why I tried to make clear that I'm not exactly a Utilitarian, even though I agree with some aspects of it (I think everyone does to a degree, though). Utilitarianism is a very broad perspective so the term in and of itself doesn't totally describe what I think. I oppose hedonism and materialism, although you could argue for opposing those on Utilitarian grounds since they will ultimately lead to unhappiness and suffering (i.e. they're degenerate). Sensual pleasure is not the same as "happiness" or "flourishing", and seeking constant pleasures and comforts is what our culture promotes, not seeking happiness. I do agree that we should follow Nature as much as reasonably possible, and that our current society is quite unnatural. Nevertheless, mass extermination does not follow as a consequence of that view.
>>2869 >>2862 Also regarding empathy, while it is not "absolute" it's one of the things that makes us human and is the reason we form societies and social groups. Our ability to relate to each other emotionally is one of the things that separates from the other animals. That's about as natural as it gets. I'd argue discarding empathy as a whole is rather unnatural, it's in our genes to be able to understand and feel things that others do and act on that basis. It doesn't need to be "absolute", it's something most people have anyway. Most cultures and religions idealize altruism and self-sacrifice as the highest virtues.
>>2869 Yeah I saw that you added a bit of distance from it in your original post, but since you mentioned it by name specifically it’s hard to really tell how much of it you endorsed or followed. I guess if one were to adhere to a sort of utilitarianism more based on someone like Epicurus it would not be quite as harmful, since what he taught was actually quite frugal by today’s standards. Not that I’d agree with it, but still. >I do agree that we should follow Nature as much as reasonably possible, and that our current society is quite unnatural. We’re probably closer than we’d think then, though the main contention is likely with seeing what exactly constitutes Nature’s “intention” or best path of action for an individual or group. There may be a degree of perspectivism here, but I’d like to think there is some objectivity independent of human’s somewhere in there. >Nevertheless, mass extermination does not follow as a consequence of that view. Necessarily? You’re right, and I’d concede there. Now on whether it is a possible course of action that might be desirable or even necessary in the future, that’s a different question. I’m the OP of the ethnoglobe thread so that’s where I stand there.
>>2870 I definitely don’t think that empathy is a bad thing, but my only issue with making it a foundation for our values is for the reasons I said, it’s malleable, changeable and variable. A lot of our values today in the West are based off of pitying subhumans, the decrepit, the weak, the oppressed and the like, all to our (Whites) detriment as a group. Basically Slave Morality. I’m not saying never to have concern for the weak or to regard those lower than you with ruthless contempt at all times, but that it becomes harmful our own group in practicing this to the extent that it harms us and debases us. I agree with Nietzsche here that different groups will spawn their own moral systems and have different judgements on life according to their own experiences and ways of living. Basically master morality will give birth almost necessarily to slave morality and there will be a cyclical interchange between them across time. This happens especially in civilization, as both masters and slaves are trapped within the same cage. The best and most objective base of action and knowledge on how to live, I think, can be derived through observation of Nature, that which is independent of ourselves, and works according to Laws independent of any and all human attempts to legislate according to their whims. The Sophists in Greece used to have a similar idea when they distinguished between convention (nomos) and nature (physis). Personally I side with the supremacy of physis above all human conventions and to construct our societies in harmony with these Laws would lead to an upward path of ascending Life, a mitigation of degeneracy (that which is contrary to healthy instincts and is harmful to individuals or natural groups) and a better race. Cosmotheism. Altruism is definitely a key component in any higher civilization.
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>>2847 I just wanted everyone to see this. Are you going to just sit there? Or are you going to go out and fight? These marxist niggers are ATTEMPTING TO INVADE SUBURBS AND KILL WHITE PEOPLE AND WHERE ARE YOU They are armed, they are trained and organized and are even standing in rows. I can't tell if they have NVG's, but they definetly have gear and know how to set it up. They have mags, radios and rifles and are standing in a white suburb and threatening all white people openly. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT WHITE MAN?
>>2876 > they are trained and organized lol, clearly you haven't been paying attention. see "chop"
>>2850 >not to mention it's immoral According to whose morals? Wile it's true that ethnoglobe, as good as it seems in theory, is mostly pushed by shills and glowniggers due to how hard it would be to implement in practice and how it would help the kike narrative to make whites even worse pariahs, culling the great percentage of non-whites would indeed be the best thing to do. Not only best for whites, but for non-whites of quality as well. They should be the first to know how hard it is for quality to thrive in a sea of subhumans, and that they would have far worse fates today were it not for the whites. >>2855 No, because of R/K selection. Subhumans tend to breed as much as possible, with as many partners as possible, while people of quality seek people of quality and trade quantity for the sake of quality. By observing nature, we can see that the most noble species have least offspring, while the most disgusting pests breed the most. Rather than adopting nigger reproductive strategies, we should focus on pest control. That being said, eugenics should be utilized to the fullest in white societies. We don't need to increase Aryan population, we need to decrease non-Aryan population. >>2861 Utilitarianism is the Last Man philosophy.
>>2878 Did you watch the video I posted? Just because some stupid Marxists in Seattle can't form a functioning community, doesn't mean niggers can't have millitary experience and organize a millita where they threaten the lives and property of white people, which they are doing in said video.
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>>2876 What anons choose to do with the information they have learned on /fascist/ is up to them. If it's sketchy it shouldn't be talked be about. Stop glowposting
>>2876 >They are armed k >they are trained some of them are holding their guns upside down. and there are several obese women in that crowd. >organized i mean, they showed up at the same place at the same time. gotta count for something i guess. >standing in rows. k >I can't tell if they have NVG's they dont. >they definetly have gear yea, that was covered when you said theyre armed. and know how to set it up. lel, A2 type upper without a sight. >They have mags k >radios thats a megaphone >rifles k >standing in a white suburb confirmation on this? i dont see any houses or white people. >threatening all white people openly. how is this different? >WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT WHITE MAN? continue to be white until they pose a threat to me or my family. >>2884 >niggers can't have millitary experience and organize a millita this is true. they are incapable of organization and niggers in combat is laughable. >which they are doing in said video. i mean, theyre verbally making threats to anyone who wants to attack them during their staged protest. but they are not actually posing a threat to anyone. >WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT WHITE MAN? oh, youre addressing whites, so you're not white? no wonder youre fooled by third world tier scare tactics. i bet you also think ghanna has fucking space marines in their bullet proof tank. https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=9YXAJBh0TgE i bet you think the "radar" in that truck is real too.
>>2919 Those niggers just outed themselves. All you need is one parroting the same anti-Israel shit BLM parrots and they'll be co-opted by CIA faster than you can say Nigger.
>>2923 Getting "co-opted" by a US intelligence agency doesn't amount to much, they are beyond incompetent. Probably only becoming more incompetent with time due to diversity hires. I forget what it was in relation to, but there was some case that had public evidence confirming glow posting on 8chan by not doctoring the (you)'s out of the image. I wouldn't be surprised if some fed's incompetence resulted in accidentally nuking Israel.
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>>2958 It was in relation to the John Earnest's synagogue shooting, what you're thinking about. I am now unsure though whether these were actually screenshots the feds themselves took, or if what was included in the report was the posts of the person who reported the info to the FBI. I'd like to think it was actual feds given how they were pushing the "muh Russia" narrative but I don't know for sure anymore in either situation.
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>>2960 It was the latter, and underestimating the enemy like the previous poster is incredibly tiresome. >>2958 Why would they take the (you)s out of posts by an informant? This stupid meme narrative is just as retarded as anything the useful idiots do, shut up or grow up. >>2876 >please fall for this psyop goy https://archive.is/QqQ7e
>>2972 I tend to see a lot horrible stupid posts both here and elsewhere when it comes to the power of our enemies. Either they are painted as utterly powerless retards, or they are omnipotent, posting in every thread, reading every post and infiltrating every organization, able to pull of flawless false flags at will. Both of these are extremely harmful opinions to have, but the one that paints them as omnipotent may be even more damaging, as it turns everyone paranoid and unable to engage in needed action of any kind, legal or illegal. They're reasonably competent, but not infallible and occasionally make oversights, as I see it.
>>2973 I think the ones who post "haha see the (you)s this somehow means they're dumb!!!!" are the same ones who go onto Telegram groups and get v&, or encourage others to be negligent and make themselves vulnerable by not taking OpSec seriously. It's boomer-tier naivety, and more dangerous than being extremely paranoid in my opinion.
Are tomboys halal, is it ok to marry a tomboy? Is there anything in the scriptures that says otherwise. Are they degenerate?
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>>2984 Tomboys are halal. Not my cup of tea, personally, but in a world which attempts to convince tomboys that they are trannies and is filled with all other sorts of filth, they are no problem at all. >>2981 Someone in another thread was calling /fascist/ a honeypot compared to Telegram the other day, which is hilarious since every other week we're seeing some retard get v& over that app since they think it is so secure and safe. Just like that dude who posted a pic of himself in a skull-mask in front of the Christchurch mosque and got (unsurprisingly) v&
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>>2984 >>2995 Tomboys are the best. There's nothing quite like a cute, energetic, and physically fit girl who likes masculine things.
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>>3019 >>2995 Tomboys are nice, but the classical feminine aesthetic will always be superior. Not that I think that precludes fitness or anything of course.
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>>2984 >>2995 >>3019 >>3052 >[...] in which the nonwhiteness of ostensibly white tomboys is not merely "skin deep". In addition to being associated with nonwhite or, at least, dark white skin tones, these genderbending female figures are connected with an array of stereotypes about racial Otherness in general and blackness in particular. Possessing behavioral tendencies, physical characteristics and narrative roles that place them in dialogue with what Toni Morrison would characterize as "American Africanism", these ostensibly white figures seem to distance themselves from, and often even disavow, their Caucasian identities. Tomboys are genderbending race traitors and that's not an issue. I want to marry one and give birth to warriors.
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>>3076 >letting your wife dress like that For shame, anon.
>>3076 Usually tomboys are more loyal than others, at least in my experience. They actually value their own femininity, they just also have some masculine qualities although this is mostly experience prior to these girls going to college.
So what does it mean to be anti-intellectual? I assume Fascists aren't anti-science or logic, so what is the truth of the matter?
>>3079 Fascist anti-intellectualism is against the type of “intellectualism” that separates theory from practice, thought from action, is disconnected from life, not participating within it, not living out one’s own ideals. It is often used in a pejorative sense by anti-fascist academics but they fail to understand what this actually refers to. Gentile sums it up good in >>1923. Funnily enough I just made this infograph on the subject just a few hours ago. In that same thread I linked, I use the example of someone who is inwardly “redpilled”, who agrees with fascist thinkers, speeches, ideology, the whole nine yards, but keeps it firmly limited to his internal convictions (thought) and never expresses it in his life (action). How I see it, this is a very superficial form of the redpill.
>>3081 Shit, my brother and I have similar philosophy to that. Learn something new every day. Thanks a bunch!
>>3083 You guys were fascist at heart already! No problem, glad to help.
>>3085 I can say I am certainly, but my brother's far more libertarian. God knows I hope he comes over.
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>>3083 I mean it's nothing new, Lenin was saying the same thing before modern fascism even existed.
>>3134 What did Lenin say about it? Either way, this sort of view is by no means unique to fascism – one good example is the 15th-century Confucian scholar Wang Yangming, who Yukio Mishima was a fan of and references in Runaway Horses – >Wang’s most distinctive and well-known doctrine is the unity of knowing and acting (zhī xíng hé yī). In order to grasp the significance of this doctrine, consider a student who is being questioned by a college honor code panel after being caught plagiarizing an essay. If the honor code panel asked the student whether he knew that plagiarism was wrong, it would not be surprising for the student to reply, “Yes, I knew it was wrong to plagiarize my essay, but I wanted so much to get an easy A that I gave in to temptation.” Western philosophers would describe this as a case of akrasia, or weakness of will. Zhu Xi, along with many Western philosophers like Aristotle, would acknowledge that the student had correctly described his psychological state. However, Wang Yangming would deny that the student actually knew that plagiarism was wrong: “There never have been people who know but do not act. Those who ‘know’ but do not act simply do not yet know” (Tiwald and Van Norden 2014, 267). One of Wang’s primary claims is that merely verbal assent is inadequate to demonstrate actual knowledge https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/wang-yangming/#UnitKnowActi
>>3135 He criticised Kautsky and the first International for sitting around all day talking about theory without taking revolutionary action.
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Looks like Nein is down for me
>>3156 Bad timing. Just after 9chan went down with a closure notice from Josh then came back up the next day with javascript only captchas.
>>3161 Wow, it really did go up the next day after he posted that. It's almost undoubtedly compromised
>>3161 >Javascript it works without posting on their clearnet
>>3156 Yeah, it's down. Already happened several times this year. >>3161 I heard about 9chan too. But who is the new owner? Will not post on it again because of the issue you mentioned (just made very posts on there anyway).
>>3163 I cannot post via tor. Captchas won't load.
>>3164 I looked around for a minute on 9chan after the one anon mentioned it, and while people have asked who the new owner was I don't see any answers. I could have just missed it but I don't think we know.
>>3165 It doesn't work for me on their onion site either but I posted just prior before posting here on their clearnet site. Using their onion over their clearnet isn't really safer for you. The ID you're given while using their cleanet through TPR is based on the exit node IP. No worries.
>>3161 >Bad timing just saying, 8kunt has its own issues rn. Jimbo trying to nuke us Torfags obviously, too https://8kun.top/pnd/res/136055.html#q137720
>>3168 Wow there's really nowhere good left besides here and Nein
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What the fuck is going on? 90 IPs? It's usually like 18. /k/ is at record levels too, yet posting is stagnant right now
>>3170 Lurkers from plebbit after the great purge? I heard they are all over 4chan right now.
>>3171 Potentially, though I'd be a bit surprised if they were managing to filter into the webring. It's not impossible though. If so I'm glad they're lurking and not shitting up everything.
>>3076 Who are you quoting and how much of his dietary intake is glue? Japs draw tomboys brown because they spend most of their time out in the sun and that's what a tanned nip looks like IRL. There is nothing niggerish about them unless you're some scrawny jewish bookworm who thinks some bone white russian powerlifter is "niggerish". I mean shit, aren't american negresses notorious for how fussy they are about their hair and nails? You think these short hair, declawed girls give a shit if you fuck up their "weave" or "manicure"?
Neinchan is undeniably forwarding all of the info they can give right to the feds every time they go down.
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>>3174 Here anon I found the book for you. It's as pozzed as you'd think
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>>3179 You called?
>>3076 >tomboys are genderbending female figures Wrong, at its core a tomboy is just a girl, possibly somewhat nerdish, that likes men's stuff and tends to be /fit. This has nothing to do with the SJW type landwhales that think their are men.
>>3175 What info? (((Someone))) says it everytime it goes down, yet I have never heard of any arrest over neinchan posting. Also, with how slow it now is, there is very little stuff to be given to these feds. Nice demoralization, fam.
>>3187 >Also, with how slow it now is, there is very little stuff to be given to these feds. People overrate the amount of data a board has on you and literally anything of it is open anyways, i.e. message, date and time. All of those are mapped in real-time by the five eyes network forever with no cooperation of the provider needed whatsovever so the only real thing remaining might be the IP if it is stored at all. If someone thinks the NSA needs hours, even days, to download couple of hundreds twelve digit numbers he's an idiot beyond saving. That said, taking care that your IP doesn't get in others hands is your own damn responsibility and thinking that a provider will go to jail for you because muh honor is stupidity at best. The tools to avoid any trouble are at hand. Use them faggots!
>>3184 correct. tomboys are a normal female type, which has nothing to do with gender-bending or race.
>>3189 How's my IP handled via tor?
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What's up with Neinchan (vvadkyuldkwon6za)?
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>>3217 It's randomly offline again and has been for over 24 hours or so now.
>>3220 Thank's
Is it over for us now, Neinchads?
If tomboys are halal, what about femboys?
>>3264 >halal nekk yourself sandnigger
>>3249 I fucking hope not.
>>3264 Even if your body says yes, your mind must say no.
>>3249 Can one of the minecraft players ask there to find out what happened
The owner of Nein really needs to have some way of letting people know what the fuck is happening. This is gay
well.. nein is up again
>>3302 Fucking finally. Hopefully we get an explanation
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>>3302 I worry more and more everytime it happens. Tried to stick to other places as alternative but everything else fucking sucks.
what is so special about neinchan? is it a more edgy version of /pol/?
>>3314 Allows same content and discussions that were on 8pol before the kikes shut it down. It's great, I don't care if it's slow.
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>>3310 Towards the end there I was thinking that it was the end for a bit there. I would have missed that place. >>3314 It's a /pol/ where you can actually discuss bad goy topics that isn't filled with newfags, cucks and shills. If you try to talk about Tarrant or violence in general on some place like Cuck/pol/ you'll be flooded with people calling you a "glownigger" or spamming "sloppy job Mossad". The people at Nein realize what must be done and give those who sacrificed themselves for their race the respect they deserve. Of course many of the attitudes held on Nein are also held here on /fascist/, but Nein is essentially unanimous on these questions. I am so glad that the Slate kikes connected our two boards. I am a /fascist/ but after the Slate article I learned about Neinchan and became a Neinchad as well.
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>>3328 >I am so glad that the Slate kikes connected our two boards. I am a /fascist/ but after the Slate article I learned about Neinchan and became a Neinchad as well. Agree with everything you said except coming from nein it was the other way round for me fren, they immediately recognized their mistake and tried to D&C in "our" thread on julays but to no avail. I would add that nein/pol while small and not perfect is probably the only actual /pol left, I don't count /pnd and /bestpol who are too cucked to even use the name.
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>>3336 I agree that Nein/pol/ is the only /pol/ worth using nowadays in my mind. It might be small but it has some of the most redpilled frens I've had the pleasure of posting with. It might just be a coincidence but I don't think either of us have been mentioned in the news much or at all since then. The Shorenstein Center kikes must have been kvetching to high heaven after seeing what happened, because it's undeniable they read every word we post. Also nice image kek
To all the "based" non-White people lurking and posting on image boards, take it from a curry muncher and stop pandering to Whites. They won't help you. Not because they're evil, but because they have other priorities. They have to take care of their people. In this world, every race is for itself. The race to world domination/extinction of this race or that race is going rapidly fast with the advent of technology. If we pander to them, they'll see us as infiltrators to their movement and fuck us over. If we leave them alone, they'll soon invade us with their superior tech and overtake countries. Either way, we're doomed. I'd say say your last prayers and just move to consumerism to smother the ever depressing unfortunate soul of a non-white.
>>3362 >superior white technology LARPer detected, a true curry muncher would know that Indians are already running most big tech companies.
and btw what is the difference between natsyndicalism guild socialism and corporatism. Is a corporate, syndicate, trade union and guild all mean the same thing?
>>3366 Look man I get that white women are the best looking women out there but if you don't hate white people you shouldn't racemix.
>>3363 Daily reminder that the only reason that shitskins have any sort of advanced economies or political power today is due to the unfortunate dissemination of White technologies and organizational techniques into their hands.
>>3390 When you take something and use it to your own advantage, what is that called?
>>3391 No one can fault non-Whites for seizing what they could, it's only common-sense, but that does not mean that it was not a horrible mistake that should have been avoided at all costs. The superiority of Western Europe and North America in the second half of the 19th century in economic, military, financial and political spheres was based on our monopoly of industry. The ability to produce such things flowed from White genius. Eventually capitalists realized it was cheaper not to just produce in their own countries and export the goods to the colonial / non-White world, but that it was cheaper to produce in the area of marketing itself, White workers were brought into competition with non-White workers, non-Whites began to develop themselves and use our methods. . Secrets, processes, methods, engineers, managers, etc all given to non-Whites. This was all a horrible mistake. I believe in the Laws of Nature, eternal struggle and "might makes right", so I will never cry how something is "unfair", "immoral", "not allowed" or whatever, but a mistake a mistake and while the past cannot be changed, we can correct past mistakes that jeopardize the ability of our race to survive, flourish and grow.
>>3393 You better be lucky you're White, anon. At least now you can laugh at the other races.
>>3424 It feels good to be White. However there is no time to laugh now.
question to the mexican mishima wasn't mishima a degenerate?
>>3569 Yes, and it's a complete mystery why a trad board like /fascist/ puts up with it. 'Muh_Baste_Sodoku' is hardly a good reason to put up with what IMO amounts to spam by some LARPing, literal cocksucker.
>>3569 >obsessed with self-improvement >acted rather than said >nationalist It's sort of obvious why some anons like him or admire how he lived his life, confused sexuality (which he supposedly never acted on) aside.
>>3584 This board is full of gay shitskins, it's either some kind of joke or they get drawn to it like mosquitoes. Although, as another anon said, even fapping to male armpits is less degenerate than racemixing. >>3585 While one's legacy shouldn't be discounted just for them being homos, Mexican anon seems to focus on the homoerotic aspect a bit too much.
>>3589 Maybe he's a fag, I don't really know about this mexico anon. I don't pay attention to that sort of thing, I think anons having personalities or "names" is the gayest shit in the world, gayer than jacking off to armpits.
Where are all these newfags coming from?
>>3584 You just don't understand Mishima, anon. You're thinking of him from an exclusively political viewpoint and attempting to shun the man over a single character-flaw. First and foremost Mishima was an artist. This was his life. He was obsessed with questions of aesthetics, beauty and death. The real problem we have with his writings in the West is that we don't have any of his political writings. Almost all of it is untranslated. We do know that he wrote articles against communism and in particular a work called "A New Theory of Fascism (新ファシズム論) , that he praised pre-war Japan and harshly criticized the modernizing Japan, which felt like it had to sanitize itself of its more violent and masculine cultural traditions. He likewise wrote a short story that attacked the emperor for admitting that he was not divine, saying that the sacrifices of his countrymen had been in vain due to this. Is it LARPing to found a militia to protect the emperor in a period where police were actively clashing with communist / Zenkyoto protestors in Japanese universities? Is it LARPing to hold a general hostage and give a speech to assembled soldiers before committing ritual suicide? If this is LARPing this entire board is a giant LARP, myself included. I'm tired of retards going "ZOMG HE WAS GAYYYY" (ignoring the fact he had a wife and two children and his wife denies he was gay) while ignoring this man's work and life. >>3596 It's referring to a poster who uses the Synarchist flag.
>>3604 >and attempting to shun the man over a single character-flaw. Trust me, it's not an 'attempt'. I'll spell it out for you so you get me: Any sodomite is an absolute abomination on his society and the larger culture. No amount of pandering to his 'higher qualities' will discount this showstopper of a flaw. Feminism and effeminism are the two sides of the same coin--namely, male emasculation--that are the single greatest stronghold leading the to death of the millennia-long Western Tradition, and right before our very eyes. All faggots should have their balls cut off publicly. You should be ashamed for promoting it in even the slightest degree Anon.
>>3612 >Western Tradition Surely you do not think that Mishima has anything to do with the "Western Tradition"?
>>3589 There is nothing gay about « nice pecs, bro », the human body can be a work of art greater than any painting, sculpture or building. Recognizing this beauty alone does not imply the intent of wanting to ram your dick in it, only modern men think this way, so I would put into question the character of people who see Mishima as a degenerate. I should say too that puritanical attitudes towards the human body do not belong under Fascism Now, I think all my homoposting has been concentrated at /sig/ and the A E S T H E T I C S thread, the reason I concentrate on men is because self-improvement should be done for yourself, not someone else, I post with the message of « one day this could be you » instead of « one day you may fuck this », C O O M is not a good motivator. Although, I will admit that I sometimes border on homoeroticism because it pisses off a lot of people, people who act like they are strong but turn into a puddle of tears and bile the moment a man's buttcheeks enter their field of view are quite amusing. They may confuse the invigorating effects of rage as strength, and have deluded themselves in thinking that being angry all the time means they are strong or something.
>>3626 >I post with the message of « one day this could be you » instead of « one day you may fuck this », C O O M is not a good motivator. This is a good point. The reasons for /sig/ first and foremost need to be wholly self-centered. This sounds weird to say on a fascist board which glorifies communitarian ideals, but self-improvement should be done for its own sake, for one's own well-being. Doing it first and foremost for female attention isn't the best way to go about self-improvement Though I'm sure everyone wants that as a side-goal let's be honest. I've never seen your posts as gay or anything. I too have a classical appreciation of the human body, male or female that is entirely disconnected from sexuality. If anything when someone sees some ripped Ubermensch they should want to emulate and become a figure at that level of achievement and self-mastery.
>>3630 « There is no more to be expected from society than from the state. Salvation is in the individual. » -Ernst Jünger I really feel that manny anti-isms fall into being against the object and not just the movement >Anti Capitalists want to abolish capital >Anti Communists want to abolish community >Anti individualists want to abolish the individual Most are amoral objects, tools dependent on the user. I not not think it to be necessary to explain why getting rid of the tool and not the attitude is stupid. But I still find manny wanting to halt any attention put on individuals, thinking that it is going to devolve into individualism. I believe in the importance of the individual, which is why I come-up as very libertarian, not because of « Muh Freedom » but because government programs will not make-up for a lacking population, and because a good population will naturally need less oversight, making the government more agile.
>>3633 Take the Confucius-pill: >The Master said, “Lead the people with policies and keep them orderly with penal law, and they will avoid punishments but will not develop a sense of shame. Lead them with excellence and promote social order through the attainment of propriety in their roles and relations and they will develop a sense of shame, and moreover, will order themselves.” A good population in this sense will become self-regulating and be less coercive while still be hierarchical and closely knit. Individual self-cultivation and familial relations are all emphasized.
Do you guys have any thoughts on Debord and the Situationists? I like their ideas of purely revolutionary action and things like detournement that fascists or traditionalists could perhaps utilize.
>>3636 What books would you recommend? I've been meaning to check out The Society of the Spectacle at some point. My only issue seems to be that every definition of concepts like "spectacle" seems to be surrounded by a jungle of leftist buzzwords. Maybe I'm just stupid, I don't know.
>>3612 Promoting Mishima isn't promoting faggotry or a faggot. It's a shame you don't know what you're talking about but insist upon yourself.
>>3568 That's because ethnoglobe is a made up utopian concept that is a complete waste of time discussing, especially in current year where we whites are on the brink of fucking extinction.
>>3679 Of course the mere fact of preserving our people comes first, but in time the overpopulation issue will need solved.
>>3637 Society of the Spectacle and the Revolution of Everyday Life are the main ones. I could’ve sworn I saw a reading chart for Debord a while back on /lit/. The spectacle in Debord’s words is the “autocratic reign if the free markets” and refers to how people live their lives through commodities and the mass media. I imagine Debord would have a heart attack if he saw modern social media. The spectacle can exist in a concentrated form (as seen in the eastern bloc and other authoritarian states) or it can exist in a diffuse form (as seen in free market capitalism) and then finally in the integrated form, the form seen in liberal democracies from the 60s onwards. Unless you want to go full anti-tech there’s no real way to “escape” the spectacle. Another notable feature of the spectacle is how it will take a revolutionary idea, sterilize it, and then recuperate it into the spectacle. The Situationist part comes from creating “situations” outside of the spectacle. Détournement I think could be very effectively utilized, and I think it already has in some way (the “ok” sign being hijacked and turned supposedly into a symbol of white supremacy) and higher levels of détournement to really get a message out. Assuming you live in an urban setting you could do all kinds of things to disrupt everyday life of yourself and those around you, creating “situations”. This may not be the best explanation but it gets most of the main points across.
>>3685 Thank you for the very good explanatory post, anon. I will have to go check out those books here soon. >Another notable feature of the spectacle is how it will take a revolutionary idea, sterilize it, and then recuperate it into the spectacle I think we've all witnessed something like this. Usually I refer to this process as "kosherization". It seems that if one is not expressly opposed to the entire logic of the society that they're operating against, it will ensnare it and assimilate it. I have a feeling that this has happened with the more revolutionary aspects of the left, one just has to look at the discrepancy between states like North Korea and what goes for leftism in the capitalist core today - i.e. trannies, gay sex, nigger worship, rainbow capitalism, etc. I think you're right about détournement, it never fails to surprise me just how successful the "ok" sign has been turned into a sign of White Supremacy thanks to the efforts of a few 4chan memes and people like Tarrant. And that is just an example of a simple hand-sign, I'm sure if one really put their mind to it they could get very creative.
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>>3679 A civilization is either moving forward or it's dying. It's not a waste of time to discuss the idea of ethnoglobe. It's a waste of time to thrash at the idea. It's a fine line between what you're saying and "the blacks and mexicans are already here, it's a waste of time discussing how to get rid of them". Borders on cuckservatism and optics cucking, which has lead to defeat after defeat for almost a century.
>>3698 You will likely die after living a life of wagecucking and never standing up for what you believed for. A literal "cum-eating" faggot is a better fascist than you lmao
>>3702 >if you aren't gay you likely won't stand up for what you believe in No matter how hard you white knight your faggot senpai won't notice you
>>3703 >if you aren't gay you likely won't stand up for what you believe in I don’t know how one could misinterpret something so badly
>>3704 >how could this guy trying to get a rise out of me misinterpret what I said?
>>3679 >in current year where we whites are on the brink of fucking extinction please tell me when you think would be a better time for that discussion. try not to contradict yourself
>>3698 >eat cum is this just an assumption made because he was proven at some point to be a literal homosexual? or was this some newage attempt at gaining strength? or what.
Daily reminder that Mishima wasn't a homosexual. He wrote a fictional novel about a fictional character who was a fictional homosexual. Mishima visited a gay bar a couple of times as part of researching that work of fiction, which was fiction by the way. Making autobiographical claims about an author based on imaginary characters who don't exist is simply absurd. In real life, Mishima was a married man and had numerous children. The social construct of a "gay man" simply doesn't exist in Japanese or Asian culture, and is in fact of symptom of western capitalist decadence. Decades after he died, an acquaintance he barely knew published a trashy, obscure "tell all" "table talks" kind of book where he claimed to be Mishima's lover. His wife similarly denied this completely. The idea that Mishima was a "homosexual" (whatever that means) is completely unheard of in Japanese popular consciousness, but is literally the only "fact" any westerner knows about Mishima, which is telling. >>3758 It's just shitting on him for being a "fag"
>>3759 reminds me of hitlers "micropenis" claims.
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>>3759 So he didn't suck dick or fuck guys? If not, why do you feel the need to write faggot shit like this >The social construct of a "gay man" simply doesn't exist in Japanese or Asian culture You sound like a faggot apologist. It's not enough to just say he wasn't gay, you have to say that he couldn't even possibly be gay because it's not even real in Japan lmao get the fuck out of here with your Jack Donovan weasel words bullshit that undermines the rest of what you say. If Mishima wasn't gay it should be refuted based on facts alone, with evidence presented. >a "homosexual" (whatever that means) Gas yourself you fucking two-faced homosexual niggerfaggot. This is exactly why people don't want homos like Mishima propped up, because it attracts slimy bullshit like this.
>>3758 "Gay" isn't some abstract label anon, they do absolutely disgusting shit that is put behind a word to shield from the disgusting reality of it so it can be normalized
>>3766 >>The social construct of a "gay man" simply doesn't exist in Japanese or Asian culture >You sound like a faggot apologist. a-are you angry fags dont exist in some parts of the world?
>hundreds of millions of white burgers and yuros >brink of extinction Come on now, if even a comparatively tiny number of featherniggers couldn't be totally eradicated after hundreds of years of warring between one another combined with old world diseases decimating their population before they were enslaved or kicked in their collective savage balls by European colonizers then what makes you think hundreds of millions, far more than the entire planet's population during the height of pre-colonization era native american reign, would all just give up and die within a couple of generations? You pay way too much attention to the worst of the population while essentially giving up on the rest.
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>>3769 >>3767 are you in distress? youre not making alot of sense, anon.
>>3766 You don’t understand the point. Stop seething for a moment and think. It’s an indisputable fact that the notion of the exclusive homosexual, the homosexual lifestyle and sexual orientation are modern ideas which have no counterparts in literally any traditional culture, Asian or otherwise. The term itself in English – “homosexual” was coined in the 19th century and later elaborated upon by literal kikes such as Magnus Hirschfeld. No one is born a faggot, it’s a result of environmental degeneracy and upbringing. Stop operating on the Jewish paradigm. Also I’m NOT saying that no one ever fucked men in Japan – you can find gay shit in the Hagakure of all places but THIS DOESN’T MEAN THAT THE CONCEPT OF A GAY LIFESTYLE OR EXCLUSIVE ORIENTATION EXISTED IN THESE CULTURES PRIOR TO WESTERN DECADENT INFLUENCED. It’s like the term “Transgender” — no one used this kike neologism before it was coined in 1974, or “cis-gender”, coined in 2011
>>3772 Also before I get strawmanned on saying that sexual orientation is a modern idea, I’m NOT saying that “everyone is bisexual” or whatever kike bullshit some retard is gonna try to put in my mouth undoubtedly. I reject the notion that so-called "bisexuality" and "homosexuality" exist as any sort of “orientations”. These words are inherently misleading because it assumes that sodomite relations are similar or are even on par with heterosexuality. That is not the case. Anything that deviates from vaginal intercourse is, by default, a fetish. Your fetish is not a sexual orientation. It is not your identity. Your deviant behavior is promoted as "just another sexual orientation" because it's easier for fags to cope with their fetish, and because it is easier for Jews to make a movement for "equality" when it's viewed as such
>>3774 >>3772 faggot coping hard
>>3772 >It’s like the term “Transgender” — no one used this kike neologism before it was coined in 1974, or “cis-gender”, coined in 2011 Yeah but we did have third genders! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_gender#History
>>3775 Cuckchan vocabulary like this is a sure sign one is dealing with a mental defective.
>>3772 >you're not gay if you fuck guys, as long as you fuck women too Bisexual "totally not gay" faggots get the bog, too. You homos ruin everything. Of course you can't be reasonable and praise what Mishima did while condemning his homosexuality, or simply proving that he wasn't an ass fucker. No, you have to say that having gay sex isn't even really gay, it doesn't exist, there's nothing wrong with it. You argue like jews, and love argument itself, anything that obfuscates reality. Is /fascist/ a gay board now? At least a few other anons here aren't dick sucking bisexual faggots. Fuck off and wank to your topless pics of Mishima elsewhere.
>>3768 Yeah gays don't exist in Japan. Just people who suck each other's dicks, fuck each other up the ass, give each other disease, and molest boys.
>>3780 He said "not only was Mishima not gay, he couldn't have been gay as we understand it because the "subculture" doesn't exist in Japan/Asia."
>>3782 Nuance will always fail on mouthbreathers like this. Just as expected, even though I call "bisexuality" and "homosexuality" fetishes and Jew-pushed deviant identities in my previous post >>3744 I still get called a sodomite and sodomy-defender. I'm not even saying that people who committed sodomy prior to the coining of the term (in the West of course) weren't degenerate, of course they were degenerates for having this vice. >>3776 It's always funny when trannies cite these things as evidence for their insanity like we should be following the societal structures of poos, injuns and islanders.
This guy is not even trying and you're all scrambling like dumbasses.
>>3782 Having gay sex = gay. End of story. Bisexuals are gay. Anyone who dabbles in gay shit is gay. Anything else is mental gymnastics. If Mishima wasn't gay, leave it at that.
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Mental gymnastics aside, Mishima was a great writer and stood up for what he believed in, regardless of alleged vices. That makes him based in my mind and no one can tell me otherwise.
>>3752 When all shitskins and other foreigners have been expelled from our homelands.
>>3798 I still think it is good to have some sort of far-sighted vision of the future though. Obviously the expelling of mudmen from our ancestral lands is of foremost importance, as if we do not save these, there is nothing to save at all.
>>3759 >decades after he died, an acquaintance he barely knew published a trashy, obscure "tell all" "table talks" kind of book where he claimed to be Mishima's love Don't forget that Mishima's wife successfully sued the author of this book, Jiro Fukushima, for what he wrote. John Nathan's book was successfully removed from Japanese stores due to his Freudian and pathological reduction of Mishima's life, and funniest of all, Paul Schrader's film 'Mishima: A Life in Four Chapters' had to be outright dropped from the 1985 Tokyo film festival due to fears of violent protests by right-wing supporters of Mishima. It still has never be released in Japan to this very day.
>>3790 He never had gay sex, though.
>>3790 >If Mishima wasn't gay, leave it at that. the reason for the "need" to elaborate on why people even call him gay is that he did an "investigation" for a book he was writing about a "culturally gay" character. he went to gay clubs to see what it was about because he had no idea what the gay subculture was about because it was a new concept in japan. its not like now where gays have stereotypes and everyone knows how to identify a faggot. someone smeared his name years after he died like they did with every symbolic/prominent member of the axis like that german woman pilot. they smeared her name and put words in her mouth about hitler.
Well if he didn't actually do gay stuff and it was just a smear campaign, that's fucked up and I feel bad for slandering him based on bad info. Maybe I'll read his books now. I actually have Sun and Steel but never bothered to read it after I looked into this about a year ago and based on the info I found was left with the impression he was a degenerate so other writers took his place on the backlog. Someone who put in the legwork already should put together a little infographic with sources against him being gay and it would save a lot of grief when this gets brought up in the future.
>>3811 >Someone who put in the legwork already should put together a little infographic with sources against him being gay and it would save a lot of grief when this gets brought up in the future. I’ve read the Sea of Fertility, a handful of his other novels, short stories and some secondary literature so maybe I will look into this here in the near future. >I actually have Sun and Steel A physical copy? If so, how much did you pay for it? That book is notoriously hard to get a hold of. It seems impossible to get a physical copy without paying over one hundred dollars. It really needs reprinted.
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>>3812 Yeah it's a thin little paperback with this cover. I got it about 6 years ago for 10 bucks. I wonder if books from authors like Yockey will follow suit, or if the price inflation is just crossover from weebs. With the political climate getting ever shittier it can't be easy to reprint and distribute these works.
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>>3822 Kek some weebs might be driving up the price, but I don't think it has been reprinted for years and that is the main issue. People on /lit/ are constantly complaining about the price of this book, so you got lucky! This will probably happen, like you wondered, with more and more bad goyim. I bought a copy of the unabridged The Lightning and the Sun for 30 dollars a year ago, and now on Amazon you can't get it without spending 85 dollars. All sorts of these works are soaring in price, so I'm glad I got redpilled before they started purging everything
>>3823 We may need guerilla printing techniques in the coming decades. Something like an easy way to bind laser printed PDF pamphlets, so they can be mass produced on the cheap and distributed without being tracked. Maybe digital obsoletes that and makes it essentially a novelty for collectors. Or maybe being able to hand out printed copies of a pamphlet like The Great Replacement adds another dimension to propaganda, like a physical presence or almost marking territory. Seeing printed copies from the Ukraine makes things seem more real over there. It's kind of a morale boost.
>>3829 They're only going to turn up the pressure on White people, especially White Nationalists, so it will definitely more and more important for us to be able to produce physical copies of works in large numbers and cheaply. The biggest issue, like you mention, is not getting tracked. I wish I knew more about this stuff, because I'd be putting up flyers and stuff in my area. I don't know what's up in Ukraine, but they definitely do in some ways seem to be far ahead of us here in the US or Western Europe. They seem to love Tarrant, I mean hardcover editions of The Great Replacement? Something like this needs distributed in huge quantities in every European country.
I have some fucking Trad-cath cuck saying Whites aren't Aryan, so what do we have that proves people like this wrong?
>>3858 Like always, inquire definitions. Aryan by modern definition are the guys back in Iran and surrounding mountains. The "problem" for him is that those same guys are kinda White and historical results of the long-timey Aryans & the mountains around there are the Caucasus, the name itself might ring a bell. Either way from an Indo Migration or a Mountain Range Origin, he's busted. Mountain Iranians are White as hell although very tanned, a good visual source of that is the 2,500th Year of the Persian Empire celebration the Reza Shah did around 1971, in the march there's representatives of certain regions of the country and in some sections they might as well be germans. Also the whole mongol/turkic raids and the origin of the Arab admixture which made things a bit darker is a big reason why there's not a whole lot of them nowadays, a big point many forget it's relatively recent compared to many civilizations from that area. Also which Whites, many Irish for example are not "pure" aryans, nor are many in the european islands in the atlantic, like the Azores or Canary ones, yet they are european by origin (unless you go into the Irish=Ancient Egyptians) P.S. Shouldn't you know that already?
>>3858 This is why I avoid the term, honestly. It's too subject to pilpul and changing definitions over time. To me, if anything, Aryan should be seen as synonymous with Indo-European, which refers to a specific group which spread out from the area around modern day Ukraine and gradually pushed its way into Europe, the Iranian Plateau and into the Indian subcontinent. Using the term Aryan, we're left with the question of whether Hungarians are Aryan, whether Finns are Aryan, whether Basques are Aryan, etc. Because these are all non-Indo-European but undeniably White ethnic groups. And then in the case of Aryans moving into Europe, it's not like they were coming into an empty Europe, Neolithic Whites already lived there and practiced agriculture, animal husbandry and similar lifestyles during this time. Aryans of course decisively influenced Europe, as their languages and cultures seem to have become the most dominant across the continent to this very day. Granted I need to study up a bit on my Indo-European studies.
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>download a dictionary on animal behavior so I can look up a few terms >come across pic related Hello, based department?
>>3865 Yes, I do and did know most of that, I just don't always have my sources and info on demand for stupid boomer Trad caths on telegram, he thinks he won even though he disbelieves evolution, which while it is by no means proven to absolutely work in the way it is commonly thought of, is proven to an extent that discarding it is pointless MUH YAHWEH did it bullshit no matter how it's dressed up, he also talks about how he has followed Anthropologists and Archaeology for decades so he doesn't need to source his claims, I just gave up after it became clear he was one who would need to be purged. >>3886 I get your rationale here, I just hate how so few care so little about our heritage, but I am an American euro Mutt, so my heritage is all over europe from eastern Europe Poland/Czechoslovakia to Sweden to Ireland.
>>3893 It sounds like he is the one who needs purged here. People who put their Jewish deity before their own kin and can't even see the truths in evolution (whether we're talking about Darwin's aimless kind or the more metaphysical and oriented varieties) are getting into highly anti-White territory, regardless of their protestations to the opposite. The best thing to do with these Christcucks is just to ask them whether they'd rather live in a White non-Christian society or non-White Christian society or something similar like having their daughters marry a upstanding White non-Christian or a non-White pious Christian. Usually their allegiance becomes clear
>>3897 The group I was in openly lets Christian spics talk, like they have any authority, every arghument they have is an appeal to trasdition that to anyone who sees past their bs, is just hollow, he constantly fights with any non-christian when they disagree with him, as do most of them, on top of that it's run by a christcuck who openly refuses to abandon the idea of Churches or the kike god because everyone seems to associate our tradition with Christianity. One of them is a Brazilian Rexist who thinks he's some kind of White savior, just because at least one set of his grandparents were purely German, I swear to fuck I've seen studies of the genetics of Brazil, Argentina and so on that show that even in their "White" populations most are in reality mixed abominations who should be purged just as a matter of course. Of course, that's not even touching on the idiocy of some on our side of the religious argument who think we should enslave the all non-Whites and make them do literally all the work, while we just practice war because they think our nature is purely war, where if you look at the facts most of us were farmers and while we are the best at war, it's only because we have been so reluctant to indulge our darker natures specifically because we have always known how good we really are at it.
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>>3899 I honestly think Christians are a lost cause for the most part. I couldn't tell you why they are still so attached to it, even when faced with the overwhelming evidence that it is has become a non-White religion that is actively assisting in the suicide of White peoples. There's the meme that any party or organization which isn't explicitly right-wing will be co-opted by the left, but I think a better formulation of this is that any group, doctrine or party that isn't explicitly pro-White and particularistic will be co-opted by anti-White thought. Christianity has outlived any usefulness that it had (if it can be said to have had any) and the time has come for something new.
>>3901 I may never be a Cosmotheist but man did pierce know what he was talking about, no wonder he isn't easy to find info on if you don't run through these circles..
>>3905 The Jews feared Cosmotheism and tried to say that it was a scam made up by Pierce to get part of his organization tax-exempt status. What issues do you have with Cosmotheism in particular? I am thinking of making a thread soon maybe.
>>3906 None really, It just doesn't resonate with me, I believe more closely what some of the Ancient Stoics and some Atheists did, that there are no gods outside of that which we call nature and all stories we have of gods are simply the deeds of mortal men deified by time, and that we can through meditation or simply being open enough to it speak to or listen to the spirits of these ancestors, I'm simply going with what feels right for me.
>>3908 You're probably closer to the Cosmotheist worldview already than you think, honestly, as when Pierce speaks of "the Creator", he's not talking about anything close to the Abrahamic God, which as everyone knows is conceived of being an entity that one can have a personal relationship with like a person, and is radically separate from his creation in the sense that he would be no less complete without it than he is with it. Pierce's idea of God is more or less identical with Nature itself, or to put it another way, the entirety of the Universe as a whole. If not like a person, it's more like a force of some kind, this is why he often refers to it not as "God", but as the "Life Force" or with similar terms. So basically pantheism, much like what the Stoics believed if I recall correctly. What really sets Cosmotheism apart is its view on evolution. As Darwin described evolution, it's just a purposeless and random process by which living things evolve and adapt to their environments. It's impossible to speak of "better" or "worse" in his formulation, and this is why kike scientists got upset when people started drawing moral / ethical conclusions from Darwinian-influenced ideas. Pierce's idea of evolution is more of a metaphysical evolutionism in which evolution is not totally random, but is ultimately purposeful in its operation, increasing in living beings their complexity, levels of consciousness. In fact the entirety of the Universe is said to be evolving. The good thing about Cosmotheism is that even if someone isn't swayed by this particular philosophical view of the world, it's entirely compatible with National Socialism still.
>>3911 Yeah, that view of evolution has kind of always been what I believe on that front, I was kind of a social Darwinist in high-school, probably why my mind was kept open on the whole Natsoc Holohoax front, and so on, weird part is I just came to those conclusions naturally, so I can confirm that the evidence is there for his beliefs.
>>3916 >I was kind of a social Darwinist in high-school I was the same. Before even finding imageboards and becoming redpilled I remembered thinking whether everything was becoming so faggy due to society being too peaceful for too long and too tolerant of weakness. Granted, I haven't totally repudiated that view or Social Darwinism 100%. I think I was wrong in interpreting it as radically individualist though. Cooperation and altruism aren't always decadent and can even be beneficial in some areas.
>>3923 I was more kind with it than I should have been and I haven't discarded it entirely either especially because it is so compatible with Natsoc, I guess I'm just lucky that I grew up in an almost entirely White area, in rural PA, growing up i saw maybe three black people in the town until after 2010 and preserving and bettering my people has been important to me for most of my life, I was just more kind with non-Whites than I would be now and didn't know what could make it a reality.
>>3924 Yeah we can definitely see it in Hitler's thinking with his emphasis on struggle. If anything I've just moved closer to his view over the years, which can accommodate the struggle for existence and also the idea of cooperation for the greater good of the community with his idea of the Volksgemeinschaft. I recently came across a Japanese popularizer of evolutionism in Japan who said that struggle primarily happens first and foremost on the level between racial collectives (see >>3802). I'm going to have to look into that more. I live in Ohio. There's somewhat of a nigger problem, but I was so bluepilled that I just tried to rationalize it away for the longest time as their culture being the problem, not they themselves.
>>3926 Oh definitely, I think Hitlers ideal state was one that interfered only to make sure anything harmful was removed or minimized not too intrusive or troublesome much like an immune system. Currently in NY my birth state, looking to move to MO or WI or ME, not sure yet, I lived here till I was seven and knew a few niggers because my mothers "best friend" was one and any time she visited her we would all play together,but in my hometown they just hadn't yet gotten to the point of being a nuisance until about when we left for PA with my Grandparents when I was 7, Most of my experiences with them were positive. one thing that irks me to this day is that, completely unbeknownst to me until a few years ago, my Aunt trusted her drug dealer nigger friend enough to let me sleep with him when I was very young, thankfully she distanced herself from them before I could remember or I would now be more angry with her than her general insanity merits.
>>3927 (same anon, got off Tor) >looking to move to MO or WI or ME, I’ve heard a few fascists looking to move into Maine. It’s definitely a state I’d consider myself along with Montana and other states in that area. Lots of White people and not huge populations. >my Aunt trusted her drug dealer nigger friend enough to let me sleep with him when I was very young Wew
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>>3929 Since you did only fair I do the same, and yeah My aunt is batshit, which is probably why they never harmed me and that the guy she let me sleep with was a more redpilled nigger than most even being a drug dealer, he seems to have had a code and a good one to live by, and the only reason I don't really want to go to Maine is that its blue, at least nationally and its gun laws are little more restrictive than I would like but I am considering it.
>>3931 Are we really the most active board?
>>3933 I’m not actively planning to move but another thing I’d have to consider if I did is whether there are any good groups there, or if it’s fertile ground for starting a group. I want to shift into IRL sooner or later so I feel like I’m actually contributing in some positive way And, if I were to make a group, because I’m arrogant enough to think I could do it well. We’re entering a phase right now where it’s prime time for dropping redpills among Whites. I usually keep to myself on politics to most people but I’ve been a lot more open lately and even people I’ve thought were bluepilled seem to be a bit fed up.
>>3935 Apparently. /k/ seems to have slowed down. I like to follow post counts and active IPs between us and I’ve noticed that /fascist/ has been really gaining on /k/ and has on and off overtaken /k/ as the top board a few times over the last day or two. Looks like the whole site is in a bit of a slump though. We’ve had good activity the last day or two compared to last week but 11 IPs is less than usual. I think we’re around 16-17 usually iirc. Tor posting might throw off the true numbers though, I’m not sure, and I know we have a lot of Tor posters, especially from those who come from Nein
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>>3936 It's the fertile for a group part that's my main concern I intend to create one that has national sway to absorbs even the currently present groups most of which are fed honeypots like Patriot front, who revealed it a few weeks ago when they snitched out some members for rather minor shit to the feds and hopefully can remain unknown until we can operate anywhere, but where to start is the question.
Central PA has NSM marching in the lugenpress news lately.
>>3939 Did that really happen with Patriot Front? Wow, and they looked so good. I’ll have to look into that. It really goes to show how gay all of the groups are today. I remember hearing about when The Order was around that after a round of bank robberies or holding up armored cars they sent a shitload of cash to William Pierce. He sure as hell never sold them out to the feds, he even praised Mathews for his sacrifice and devotion. We need more people like Pierce. As for locations, probably anywhere in the Midwest.
>>3926 >I live in Ohio Hey, so do I. I wonder how many of us there are.
>>3941 I fully intend to set up something like that and with luck and hopefully by proving myself become the Leader we need. to be clear I am by no means unwilling to accept someone else as the leader, I just feel like that is my role and not out of arrogance or anything like that, i just have this pervasive feeling like that is my place but we will see how it all turns out.
I suppose this is as good a place to ask as any. Does anyone know the song that's being sung in this webm? It's in German, and I only understand a few words. (I really hope this board supports webms with sound)
>>3944 If nobody is doing it, someone has to step up.
>>3943 I didn't expect to see any more Ohio /fascist/s here, nice. Do you do anything IRL with fascism / White Nationalism? Right now this is my position basically: >>3936 >>3951 Ade zur guten Nacht https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpctqNYm6Uc >>3944 Like the other anon said, someone's gotta do it. With the general quality of this board and it's culture I'd feel pretty good about having a figure emerge from here.
>>3957 You're about where I am in terms of irl activity.
>>3958 The main thing holding me back right now is I want to self-improve a lot more before making any major moves. Like I said in the other post I am interested in trying to make something at some point, but I'm not really sure how something like this is run honestly if it's not just to be a LARPing club.
>>3961 I'm with you on self-improvement. I think looking into the history of how the NSDAP developed and rose to power during Weimar would be a good place to start in terms of understanding how a new government/ideology could sprout.
>>3965 One thing I've read about is the establishment of parallel structures and institutions such as militias, various sorts of community assistance projects and the like. It's important to remember that things such as the National Socialist People's Welfare (NSV) was founded prior even to coming to power. Of course by the time of its founding in 1931 they obviously had massive manpower and resources even at that time, but a lot is possible still working with small resources, I think.
>>3965 I'm in the same place on self-Improvement as well, I need to get in better shape and so on before I start making my moves but with a little luck I think once I have made my move I can start scouting and finding the people to begin organizing a real movement and as you mention Hitler's way seems like a good model but obviously with a different end goal, as we will never be able to seize power through peaceful means this time.
Anybody got sources on the Christian Purges of the Angflo-Saxon kings who refused to convert and were murdered as a result?
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I have to disagree with those who wish to start an IRL movement. Unless you can be absolutely certain that nobody who joins the movement has any ill-intents, it will fail. Related ThuleanPerspective: "About why (all?) movements fail and turn to shit" https://files.catbox.moe/hfq4gp.webm >>3977 >we will never be able to seize power through peaceful means this time. Wouldn't using violence to gain power only do the group harm though? If a pro-White movement starts to gain power through violence, the military police would squash them. IMHO, I don't think we have a chance at winning with violent means. However, I believe we can gain power through peaceful and legal means by just refusing to take the enemy's poison and encouraging others to do the same.
>>3986 Passive resistance will only lead to violence being used against us, we either move first and with no mercy whatsoever or we fall, if you cannot accept this you do not belong here, and you will only lead Whites to their death.
>>3986 Varg’s right about a lot of stuff, but I don’t think he laid out a very strong case in that video as to why all movements will necessarily fail. A movement will fail even if a single enemy gets in? Very doubtful. Revolutionary movements and groups have agents trying to sneak in constantly, but what really matters is vetting them and being able to identify them and then weeding them out. War will be the only option and only way we will win. At the time I’m writing this, I see zero way anywhere in the White world for genuine Nationalists to come to power through existing institutions, especially in countries where the laws are directly written to curtail their activities. We will never come to power through legal means because the police and court system only exist to protect the wealthy and G-d's chosen. Laws are rules set up by ZOG for it to operate within a certain territory and are tailored to continuing its rule. To slavishly follow all laws is cucked and they will still smash you under their boot despite how much you protest to legality. >Wouldn't using violence to gain power only do the group harm though? If a pro-White movement starts to gain power through violence, the military police would squash them. We’re being actively replaced, demoralized, degenerated as we speak, and our histories and cultures erased and turned into soulless globalist garbage. The war is already going on, Whites just haven’t realized it. Varg’s lifestyle was BTFO by Tarrant’s comments on the myth of the sheltered meadow. Just as Hitler predicted, France is becoming an African state on European soil. Him waiting for collapse and having six kids means nothing if the entire ethnic collectives of Europe aren’t preserved.
>>3990 >To slavishly follow all laws is cucked and they will still smash you under their boot despite how much you protest to legality. This. Really, "revolt against the system through the system" sounds straight out of 1984.
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>>3988 >Passive resistance To make it clear, I'm not proposing to 'peacefully protest' out in some city streets - you'll just get laughed at. What I mean by obtaining power through peaceful means is to encourage more Whites to be aware of the current situation, why it's important to preserve our race, etc. If enough Whites are aware of these topics, they'll have the power to not be influenced by our enemy. >>3990 >what really matters is vetting them and being able to identify them and then weeding them out. I think it would take a few generations to thoroughly and safely conduct background checks on everyone joining a movement if it would have any chance of being successful. >War will be the only option and only way we will win What would be the consequences if a violent war was lost? We'd risk giving them even more reasons to genocide our people and culture. >We’re being actively replaced, demoralized, degenerated as we speak, and our histories and cultures erased and turned into soulless globalist garbage Yes. But we can peacefully combat those issues by simply not accepting their degeneracy when they offer it to us. Turn off the TV, stop buying useless products, pay as little taxes as possible, exhaust the system. The less power and money we give them, the less power they have to replace us and our culture. >Tarrant’s comments on the myth of the sheltered meadow First of all I think Tarrant was a psyop. I still agree with Varg that there's going to be a collapse of civilization sometime in the near future. Therefore, instead of trying to face the enemy with violence and risk everything, we should become self-sufficient in the countrysides and wait for civilization to fall. Most urbanites have no chance of surviving without a functioning civilization. >Him waiting for collapse and having six kids means nothing if the entire ethnic collectives of Europe aren’t preserved. Well Varg's family is just one example, but imagine the power if thousands of other traditional Europeans started having 5+ kids. We don't need any more Tarrants, we need more huge traditional European families.
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>>4000 >First of all I think Tarrant was a psyop. hahaha you're still here kike? still trying to false flag the board with pedo narratives? we know your tricks and you will never be White
>>4000 What you advocate cannot be done at all under the current system, period, certainly not without violence, so logically if violence will come no matter what we do, we take the violence to them first, overwhelmingly so, and with absolutely no mercy, for none would be given to us. So, as I said earlier, if you cannot commit to this without reservation take your weakness and go elsewhere, perhaps join your local Libertarian party, that would more accurately reflect the weak nature of your heart. Not the same anon you were responding to in the below but here is how you are wrong: >I think it would take a few generations to thoroughly and safely conduct background checks on everyone joining a movement if it would have any chance of being successful. No, at most it would require a few days, to take a simple trip to where they say they are from to ferret out any feds with cover ID's, secondly to stop any conspiracy charges or anyone imprisoning leaders, only give out orders in dead drop form(never the same location twice, these must placed before you even give the person to carry it out the location through some anonymized means, almost every problem with feds solved right there. >Yes. But we can peacefully combat those issues by simply not accepting their degeneracy when they offer it to us. Turn off the TV, stop buying useless products, pay as little taxes as possible, exhaust the system. The less power and money we give them, the less power they have to replace us and our culture. No, because they will seek you out and force you to acquiesce, this has happened many many times, do i even need to mention how many? and how many times the people who did so failed to meaningfully resist once it came to them, in any way? I should hope not. >First of all I think Tarrant was a psyop. I still agree with Varg that there's going to be a collapse of civilization sometime in the near future. Therefore, instead of trying to face the enemy with violence and risk everything, we should become self-sufficient in the countrysides and wait for civilization to fall. Most urbanites have no chance of surviving without a functioning civilization. Nobody cares what you think about tarrant being a psyop, even if he was, it doesn't matter, he doesn't sound like a fed in his manifesto nor is his reasoning flawed anywhere within it. Varg is right on the collapse, but even he does not know when it will occur, it could be this decade, or it could be next century, or the one after that, so just hiding in the sheltered meadow will only leave us vulnerable to the hordes already in our nations, and more sent our way by the jew, and by the fact that they currently know where we are, and will always seek us out, without fail. The only solution now, largely thanks to the jew and our ancestors weakness, is to kill them all, and kill any who attempt to transgress our lands forevermore, until only we remain as sapient on this planet, with only the Japanese being a possible exception. >Well Varg's family is just one example, but imagine the power if thousands of other traditional Europeans started having 5+ kids. We don't need any more Tarrants, we need more huge traditional European families. We do need more large families but to have a family as such you need a safe environment, and the entire planet is currently unsafe for such things. Varg thinks his place will stay safe but when they come for him, and they will, he won't resist, he will just flee farther and farther out as those places that could be called safe shrink to become ever smaller.
>>4000 >What would be the consequences if a violent war was lost? We'd risk giving them even more reasons to genocide our people and culture. Oh I missed one. the consequence would be a quick death, rather than the long drawn out one you advocate for. besides if we lose you weak cowards will still be out there hiding as you always will, so what do we really have to lose? Nothing.
>>4000 Wasted digits on an abhorrent post. Also, I suggest BO to delete the "suggestive" pictures this motherfucker posts. Kikes cannot wait to label us as pedos after planting this shit on our board themselves to shut us down.
>Just redpill all the normalfaggots >Just drop out, that will definitely exhaust the global system >Oy vey can't you just be non-violent >Tarrant was a psyop >childinshortskirt.jpg
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>>4008 >What you advocate cannot be done at all under the current system If you agree that this current system is flawed, the way to make it collapse is to become independent on the system (e.g. by becoming self-sufficient). I believe the Jew fears one who quietly opposes the system without being detected by their radar, rather than one who plans to kill them all. They're going to focus their energy on pacifying the one who used violence. And right now, they have the power to pacify anyone who violently fights back. Believe me, if I thought there was a way to win a war through violent means, I would be all for it. However, I don't think we have enough likeminded men to battle against them at this point in time. The system is quickly failing as we can clearly see today, and we should always be prepared to fight, but we'd have a better chance at success if we were to wait until the system's at its weakest. >>4009 >the consequence would be a quick death, rather than the long drawn out one you advocate for Quite the opposite is what I advocate. A long drawn out succession of European births. >besides if we lose you weak cowards will still be out there hiding as you always will What I suggest should not be thought of as weakness. Weakness would be if I said "fuck it, everything's lost, there's no hope for us, war is futile" etc. I don't think all is lost and there's no hope for us. We can gain power when we hide and remain undetected by the enemy, watching them closely from a distance and avoiding their traps. Yes, we should prepare ourselves to fight, but do not jump the gun, while the enemy is even more prepared than us. >>4013 Posting healthy little girls makes me happy and reminds me that there's light in the future during these dark times, so I will continue posting them. It's not my intention to post anything that sexualizes children.
>>4016 Stop larping like a pedo and stop avatarfagging on an anonymous PVC pipe manufacturing forum. Board rule #4. >seeing healthy little girls give meaning to my purpose Creepy.
>>4016 Fine, reporting your posts makes ME happy, final decision is in the hand of BO. I will still do my part, scum.
The one anon is right. To attach a loli to every post regardless of context is treading close to rule 4 territory.
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>>3957 >Ade zur guten Nacht Thanks, brother. I've been trying to find out the name for weeks.
>>3996 Yup. I'm not even against using the system to an extent if it can be used, but to put all of one's eggs in one basket is shooting yourself in the foot. >>4000 (checked) >I think it would take a few generations to thoroughly and safely conduct background checks on everyone joining a movement if it would have any chance of being successful. A few generations? For what reason? Again, there have been numerous successful revolutionary movements that have worked over time and they have had to deal with informants and enemies within their ranks. They just weeded them out. >We'd risk giving them even more reasons to genocide our people and culture. Do they need any more reasons now? Either they're going to wipe us out slowly, or they'll do it faster if we fail. Either way we die. The most pathetic thing is doing nothing at all though. To cower before your enemy, afraid of arousing their ire, never risking life and limb for what you believe in, even if you lose. Hitler is the greatest example of this. There is no one I hate more than people who denigrate him for standing up and fighting against world Jewry. >Turn off the TV, stop buying useless products, pay as little taxes as possible, exhaust the system. The less power and money we give them, the less power they have to replace us and our culture. You're not wrong, and I agree to an extent, but they are going to keep doing what they're doing even if we tune out. The asymmetry in power and capabilities is massive. >First of all I think Tarrant was a psyop Proof? Even if he was a psyop, the point about the "sheltered meadow" remains the same. I think a collapse of civilization in the future is very likely too, but I don't think we should just be waiting for it like a Christcuck does for the Second Coming. It could be centuries before it collapse ACCELERATE THE COLLAPSE. > We don't need any more Tarrants, we need more huge traditional European families. We need both. Not everyone can do a Tarrant. I admire Varg, it's good that he has a big family, I just don't agree with his plan being a good fit for everyone.
>>4016 >A long drawn out succession of European births. The issue with this is that serious, dedicated White Nationalists only make up a small portion of the population. When I say serious and dedicated I mean those who are willing to completely disconnect themselves from the kike-system and have as many children as possible. I wouldn't say that doing your ideas is a waste of time or even necessarily bad, but the rate of immigration into our nations and the birthrate of these immigrants is higher than the average population, while the average White person has sub-replacement birthrates. We don't have that much time left. >They're going to focus their energy on pacifying the one who used violence. And right now, they have the power to pacify anyone who violently fights back. You can't tell me that they won't pacify those who are trying to keep their kids away from kike-programming and the Jewish propaganda apparatus.
>still taking the bait
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>>4031 I have no reason to see it as bait, honestly. At times I have held similar positions to the anon we are arguing with ITT. The Varg-strategy is appealing, but as time has passed I have come to realize that it untenable. This anon can be woken up as well
>>4018 >>4021 >Board rule #4. I can't argue with that. I'll respect the rule.
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>>4033 Thank you, lolianon
>>4032 >This anon can be woken up as well Clay can only be molded when fresh, arguing is useless. I do not think I need to say what must be done to defective pots
>>4035 >arguing is useless I would argue that the point of these types of debates is not for everyone to come to agreements, but to allow any swaying spectators to make their own decision on the topic. But yes. Endless debates needs to end at some point.
>>4035 I sometimes use the same rhetoric as well, but that usually applies more to views on certain topics like race and egalitarianism. The crux of the issue here has to do with strategy. Since this anon agrees with the basic racialist / fascist worldview, it shouldn't be hard to change minds or at least exchange opinions on this in a fruitful manner.
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I don't know where else to ask this but I'm getting desperate. I've been on nofap for a long time at this point. I was a chronic masturbator/porn addict for about 5 years, and I kept slipping further and further into bad shit until I decided enough was enough and quit cold. I had done smaller stints every now and then but always ended up breaking them. While I was still fapping, I was introverted, weak-willed, socially anxious, and unmotivated towards anything. Now that I'm on nofap, I'm essentially the opposite but too extreme. I'm more socially confident, but tend to overdo social situations and I'm perceived as autistic. I'm strong-willed, but basically reject any advice that's given to me if I haven't seen it written on imageboards before (essentially, I draw my whole worldview from this place and disregard everything I hear offline, which is good on a large scale but for smaller pieces of life advice it makes me look high-and-mighty). I don't want to take advice out of fear that I'll just become bluepilled and weak again, so I put up a huge wall to compensate and berate/insult/demean anyone that tries to get over it. I find myself a lot more motivated and working on projects that I've been meaning to do for years now, but I can't find the right balance point between all of this. TL;DR because of nofap I'm either >weak, cucked soyboy that doesn't do shit with his life or >headstrong and motivated but angry at anything and everything, which makes shit worse instead of better There is no middle ground, I've tried. How do I learn to control my anger and properly critique myself without going back to being a little beta bitch again?
>>4070 >I'm perceived as autistic No shame in being autistic. >How do I learn to control my anger Have you tried channeling your anger into physical exercise like lifting or some other physical activity? You're probably getting overloaded with testosterone and need some way to vent your aggression.
>>4070 It sounds like you need to focus on emotional self-control, at least in regards to anger. One important thing to recognize, which it looks like you partially have, is that the consequences of anger often lead to things that are worse than the initial causes. It's best to think, when an anger-provoking situation comes about, whether it's worth the inevitable consequences that it will produce. I've had to learn too that just sperging out and getting red in the face accomplishes nothing. After really internalizing this it's become clearer and clearer to me at least how stupid the things people get angry over actually are. >A man of noble character has a calm mind and does not rush things. A lesser man is not peaceable, and incessantly clashes and quarrels with everybody Hagakure (book 2) Recommended reading: Meditations by Marcus Aurelius Hagakure The Way of the Samurai by Mishima Yukio
Anybody got the direct source for some of Winston Churchill quotes that float around talking about the reasons Britain wanted war with Germany?
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>>4078 I have these three but that's about it
>>4075 I was using the gym about 3 times a week but then the wuhan wheeze bullshit started and they all closed. They're mostly back open again but now I'm in the process of moving so no point getting a membership just to cancel it right away. I've been doing push ups and squats in the meantime but it hasn't been doing much obviously.
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>>4082 This might help, also go for a run through a secluded area, do something with your energy. >>4081 Thanks just arguing with a libertarian shithead, who asked for sources and i have a fairly small library of images.
>>4087 that's the exact guide I was following during all this bullshit, very good read also I've talked abouth this before, but a booru-esque site for keeping infographs and other redpill content would be very beneficial, where they're organized by tags, categories, and other content
How true is the Nordic Resistance Movement's claim that Rudolf K'jellen created National Socialism?
>>4143 I'd dispute the idea that anyone ever truly "invented" National Socialism in the first place. Ideas that coalesced in the specific form that National Socialism as a political movement in Germany were all over the place in scientific and Romantic circles prior to the coinage of the term or the creation of any political party or specific "ism". For example, Darwinism and similar evolutionary theories are key in National Socialism, along with all of the conclusions that inevitably follow from the recognition of such a process in nature, such as eugenics, which was propounded by Francis Galton, or various types of organic state theories, which were touched on by Hegel, Ernst Haeckel, himself a naturalist and popularizer of evolutionary theories. All National Socialism is, fundamentally, is the recognition application of eternal biological and scientific laws (i.e. the embrace of the concept of the Natural Order) to the social and political sphere. This is why Savitri Devi is able to say "you cannot de-Nazify Nature!" So while Rudolf Kjellén's work may certainly be a contributory factor in discovery of the principles recognized and applied by National Socialists, I think it'd be a massive overstatement to say that he "created" National Socialism
>>4145 True, it saddens me that so few people see the roots of NS in early American thought and so on. I'm not sure you could give even Hitler credit for creating it, he was just the first to really act on it and bring it to the fore.
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>>4146 Hitler was definitely not the creator either. Anyone who assigns this to Hitler has failed to understand NS. In reading Mein Kampf it's very clear that Hitler operated off what he saw at work in the world around him. That's not to say that he had a dry "scientific" view of the world (meant in the modern soyscience sense), but that he was not merely positing things arbitrarily as good and bad according to his whims. He operated off of the standpoint of Nature and its eternal Laws, working with them as opposed to against them. This is not to underrate Hitler though, no one can deny how instrumental he was in regards to National Socialism in its German manifestation.
>>4147 Nat Soc is just the will of the Gods and our Ancestors, within Nature not without or in opposition to it, would be a good summation, i think
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/fascist/, I have 5 questions for you. 1st, How was Tarrant captured? Did he voluntarily surrender? If so, why do you think he did this? Didn't he realize that he would be paraded around by the ZOG as their trophy? 2nd, What books did the German Student Union burn? Obviously I can imagine there was a lot of degenerate stuff but what specifically? 3rd, What is your favorite piece of artwork from Hitler? 4th, How many people attended the 1934 Nuremberg rally? 5th, Is there a video game where you can be a /fascist/?
>>4200 >2nd, What books did the German Student Union burn? Obviously I can imagine there was a lot of degenerate stuff but what specifically? freud's books and the works of Wilhelm reich(he wanted to corrupt the youth) >Didn't he realize that he would be paraded around by the ZOG as their trophy? i think he was a ZOG tool, but that is my personal opinion >3rd, What is your favorite piece of artwork from Hitler? pics related, he should've practiced more human anatomy though. But his perspective was on spot. >5th, Is there a video game where you can be a /fascist/? ofc not, but i recommend trying killzone https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killzone
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>>4205 >But his perspective was on spot. I hate to do this but Adolph's perspective, at least for me, was one of his weakest aspects. He had a very sophisticated use of color (a bit too pastel for me) and granted, he knew where to position the "viewer" very well, but the actual execution of the lines was a bit off. In that first picture the building on the right has its base/floor line run higher than where it should be, and the one on the left lower. For a beginner with supposedly no formal training he had high potential, he would've been a tasteful architect under either Classical or Cottage/Wood formal educations but he insisted on entering that modernist school and then WWI broke out.
>>4206 >>4206 >a bit too pastel for me I like his colouring scheme in all honesty >In that first picture the building on the right has its base/floor line run higher than where it should be Wasn't that one of his earlier paintings? do you know any website that has more info on Hitler's art? (Such as date of painting and names of paintings) >he would've been a tasteful architect under either Classical or Cottage/Wood formal educations but he insisted on entering that modernist school He's an artist after all, artists are not the most "rational"no offence people.
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>>4200 >1st, How was Tarrant captured? Did he voluntarily surrender? If so, why do you think he did this? Didn't he realize that he would be paraded around by the ZOG as their trophy? He was still on the run after leaving Linwood mosque (the 2nd target), and appears to have been rammed off the road by a police car. He appears to have voluntarily surrendered, since we know that he originally planned to use the trial as a way to broadcast his views much like Breivik did. He was smashed in the face by a gun butt though so who knows what unfolded exactly. Personally, I have always wondered as well why so many people choose to live after their attack. Being put into a cage by the Jews is shameful, it's showing the public that their system is still working and can dispense "justice". Why allow them to dispense justice? At that point it is better just to kill yourself. I am closer to the Japanese in thinking that death is better than capture. >2nd, What books did the German Student Union burn? Obviously I can imagine there was a lot of degenerate stuff but what specifically? They burned stuff by Marx, Kautsky, Freud, Hirschfield, and various forms of pornography. A lot of other authors too that seem to have written about communism, liberalism, pacifism, egalitarianism, anti-German stuff, etc.
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>>4205 >killzone that's good one, but I don't know of any games where you can actually play as the helghast. I don't mean to be answering my own question but Civilization 5 actually has an option to play as a /fascist/. Once you get to the ideology portion of the game either by building your first 3 factories or entering the modern era you are given the option to pick from 1 of 3 ideologies. Those being Freedom, Order, and Autocracy. Autocracy is the in game equivalent for fascism. Interestingly enough, Autocracy is one of the only few ways to win a cultural victory against other human players. The social tenet "futurism" is quite powerful. >freud's books and the works of Wilhelm reich(he wanted to corrupt the youth) I had heard their names before but I was largely unsure of who or what they were. I did some minor research and holy fuck those 2 are both extremely degenerate, especially Reich. >He was still on the run after leaving Linwood mosque (the 2nd target), and appears to have been rammed off the road by a police car. He appears to have voluntarily surrendered, since we know that he originally planned to use the trial as a way to broadcast his views much like Breivik did. He was smashed in the face by a gun butt though so who knows what unfolded exactly. Personally, I have always wondered as well why so many people choose to live after their attack. Being put into a cage by the Jews is shameful, it's showing the public that their system is still working and can dispense "justice". Why allow them to dispense justice? At that point it is better just to kill yourself. I am closer to the Japanese in thinking that death is better than capture. I've heard some people claim this as evidence for Tarrant being a CIA nigger. He was captured voluntarily so it would demoralize the people who believed in the 14 words. Of course, this is merely a hypothesis and there's not enough evidence to definitively prove it.
>>4248 >He was captured voluntarily so it would demoralize the people who believed in the 14 words. I would say it backfired then. I have mentioned a few times in the past that these people should kill themselves rather than let ZOG imprison them, but it's been nearly a year and half since Christchurch and his support is still fairly strong, with new memes, lots of discussion over Tarrant-related news and the like. Why I think the majority of these people don't kill themselves is probably just survival instincts kicking in. Either that, or they have a curiosity as to what happens afterwards. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of these people have hopes out getting out one day and seeing the aftermath of their deeds. Tarrant in particular wrote that he expects to get out, but would kill himself if it looked as if this would never come to fruition, and he would then die content that he had done his best for his people.
If anyone here browses voat, what’s Tallest_skil’s deal? Is he just a moron niggerpill or is he pulling reverse psychology?
>>4258 I don't have a Voat account so it won't let me see his comments. If you post an example I might be able to give an assessment, but it's often hard to tell when someone is purposely blackpilling or if they are just stating inconvenient facts. If what they are saying is true, it's not a blackpill per se, but the way they are framing it might be. Blackpillers often say to give up, that all is lost, that we shouldn't even try, etc. It's a form of demoralization.
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>>4259 You don't need an account to view his comments but I capped them anyway. Should have done it to begin with but I was being lazy. He usually lists blackpill statistics in rants but that's not the baffling part. I've browsed voat off and on over the past few years and his behavior just doesn't make sense to me. Most of voat pulls this same thing now but there's usually some silver lining to it even outside of the Q faggots, except for him. It's always "no one will ever do this". There is a post at the end that links to him advocating for Whites to sabotage power stations so you'd think he isn't niggerpilling, but when asked why he hasn't attempted it he deflects with muh OPSEC, nevermind that even the Qult knows how vulnerable our infrastructure is and it's clear nobody's doing this kind of sabotage yet. Idk, maybe I'm overthinking it and he's just a troll/Fed fishing for retards. I only asked because it's impossible to get a straight answer out of voat these days and the rising storm gets to me sometimes.
>>4260 From these three posts it seems like he is a very pessimistic person wants violence and action, but isn't willing to commit himself to violence and action, i.e. a coward or a LARPer. That's not to say that he doesn't believe in what he is saying to an extent, but he obviously doesn't believe in violence enough to actually enact it. I wonder if he even does anything in real life such as organizational / group work. The one thing that is good about /fascist/ is that I have seen people actually talk about the unity of thought and action. Now of course /fascist/ is a board of peace though and we only advocate for love and fraternity among mankind.
>>4258 He is vehemently pro-Christian yet pretends to be NatSoc, and led a downvote brigade against me when I started posting sources about Positive Christianity, support for Christianity in Germany merely being political and quotes from Hitler himself about being a heathen. Either he's a shill or a disingenuous faggot.
>>4268 >Christian NatSocs Is there anything more cringe?
>>4269 Maybe they pretend to be NatSoc because they have some sort of persecuted martyr fetish, it would explain his sort having no imagination for anything other than being nailed to a cross over and over until we're all gone.
>>4269 Christian Identity, anyone? I'm not sure if they're based but they did say they want to exterminate all non-White even in their own home countries because they are "devils" when in reality they're shitty humans. That's all. Not "devils". They're too far up their ass about religion honestly.
>>4279 I have mixed feelings about them. They're objectively better than normal Christians since at least they care about race, but I just can't help but see them as the White version of "WE WUZ KANGZ"-tier Hebrew Israelites. Every interaction I've ever had with them was them sperging about Jewish tribes, how Adam's face blushed and throwing their own history under the bus in favor of a bunch of desert tales. Leaves a bad taste in my mouth. >>4270 Very possible. They love to imagine these types of things.
>>4285 >throwing their own history under the bus in favor of a bunch of desert tales Couldn't you argue the same for pagan belief? Like it or not Christianity is a part of European history now, the only difference now being the time periods they were in. Shouldn't disregard either in my opinion.
>>4269 I don't think they are incompatible, but if you take up this line of thinking, you need to be more open to the Mystic approach (Hilariously, the most overlooked part of the National Socialist Manifest). I did this just fine with a Christian Compass. When people discuss religion in these circles they do it in a bad faith and disingenuous way that should be considered trolling serious or not.
>>4346 It's definitely something we need to acknowledge. Europe has been more or less Christian for nearly two millennia now. I think it is a suicidal foreign creed that has been used to dull our instincts over the generations, but many things associated with Christianity aren't bad just because they're associated. For example, who can hate those beautiful old churches in Europe? Or many works of art? Some like to think that these are the results of Christianity, rather than White genius producing wonderful works of art and architecture with a Christian theme to them. I don't think we'll necessary get rid of Christianity completely for better or for worse for a long time, but I do think that today especially it does far more harm than good and the time has come for something new. It might be inspired by aspects of the past, but no mechanical and artificial revival of paganism will ever really catch on in my opinion.
>>4350 I can hate the monasteries even as beautiful as they are for the destruction of many of our original sites of worship most of which were marvels of Nature, and Holy places, devoted to Nature and were far more in balance with nature than any church is.
>>4355 Yes, it is a shame what was done to many pre-Christian religious sites. We will never be able to recover those.
>>4356 You're right we won't, but we can let nature reclaim the places they once stood, preserving that which was put there only to violate nature is in my opinion anathema to Nat Soc, there are plenty of churches that were built on grounds that were originally worship sites for us, those can be preserved, as they should. >>4347 I think you misunderstand, Christianity is not wholly incompatible with National Socialism, it is wholly incompatible with Europeans, and it is nearly as much of an issue as the Jews are, it should be discarded and discouraged, and if the issue becomes pressed, purged with extreme prejudice. If you want to believe in the god and Cosmology it describes sure, go ahead, but completely divorce it from its holy book and its disgusting directive to spread the religion.
>>4390 That were not*
>>4347 >Christianity is not wholly incompatible with National Socialism The reason I would argue that National Socialism and Christianity are incompatible is because they lie on totally different foundations. In National Socialism man is not the premeditated aim of the creation of the earth, for whose service alone all the rest of nature is said to have been created. The Natural Order is wholly non-anthropocentric, and we are forced to work with these Laws, not against them. The worldview is unashamedly this-worldly. We don't wish to preserve our people because it will earn us a spot in a perfect afterlife, but because we want our people to survive, to grow stronger and better and to flourish. Operating off a standpoint of the Laws of Nature is anathema to most Christians, as I've discovered firsthand from talking with them IRL and from listening to debates on the question of suffering and the like. Another thing is the necessarily particularistic orientation of National Socialism, which is wholly in contrast to the universalism of Christianity. Moral universalism just can't work with a worldview that is ethnocentric and is dedicated to the betterment of a particular people, the survival of a particular people. You probably already agree with a lot of this already, and like you said, "If you want to believe in the god and Cosmology it describes sure, go ahead, but completely divorce it from its holy book and its disgusting directive to spread the religion."—but at that point I wonder what is so compelling about some Semite nailed to a cross that one feels forced to keep it despite discarding almost everything else.
>>4404 You have it, that's pretty much what I was trying to say but you put it much more eloquently. I argue with them a lot, firstly to practice arguing, and secondly because some may see the truth. I fail to see the appeal besides that of familiarity, probably the basis of most "Nat Soc" christcucks need to believe. It's all so insane when you dive in and find that there are CI shitheads who claim all Whites are jews and the jews are not jews. The next worst ideology there are the almost as bad are the Christian Aryanism retards who unironically believe all but a select portion of the writers of the bible were White including all the jews prior to the questionably existent Jesus. The most hilarious part is that none of them care what violence those on their side get up to or threaten to those of us who do not subscribe to their view. I have been threatened with beheading by a 14 year old spic for calling christcucks traitors, and I only ever mention violence against them in a matter-of-fact way, as in should they ever become a problem, and they very likely will, they would be purged with no more mercy than any other foe deserves, no different the Romans should and had they had more stability would have done to them.
>>4408 Yeah, the appeal is definitely in familiarity more than anything else. They're usually "preserve Western civilization" cucks first and foremost, when the Fourteen Words should be the only true lodestar. Religions come and go and can make and break a people, but our race remains more or less the same, provided that it remains pure and does not become irreparably degenerated. With CI retards though, I was reading some book from the early 2000s on the pagan revival in the WN scene and the author seemed to be arguing that paganism and various New Religious Movements like Creativity and Cosmotheism were becoming more and more significant among the WN scene worldwide, and that CI was fading away as the movement as a whole becomes more extreme and more at odds with the decadent societies that we live in. Granted, this book is (((academic))) and biased, but I think in regards to this the author might be fairly accurate. I see anti-Christianity more than pro-Christianity here online. >I only ever mention violence against them in a matter-of-fact way, as in should they ever become a problem, and they very likely will, they would be purged with no more mercy than any other foe deserves, no different the Romans should and had they had more stability would have done to them. This is my position as well, but get rid of the Roman-pill and take the Tokugawa-pill, they went the extra mile in containing Christianity before it metastasized and undermined the social order.
>>4413 Can I take both pills? because both may just be necessary.
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>>4414 Kek, they're not completely mutually exclusive, so sure.
Thoughts on Sorel?
>>4703 leftist faggot, ignore him read seige
>>4717 >influenced Hitler >Mussolini >Evola >de Benoist >Lenin Seems like his work has produced more great men than Siege
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Throwing a response to a post of mine over on Cake/v/ made after I got banned for "Not vidya" like most everybody else was and continues to do, I would respond but banned and I don't want to bother using tor right now. Now, correct me if I am wrong but is the third option he presents not what we do? I have seen it all over /pol even on 4cuck before I graduated to a better place, so his argument doesn't make sense to me.
>>4727 Speaking of other image boards, do anons here just use political boards or have other interests?
>>4730 I obviously game a little, though mostly use Cake/v/ because everyone converges on the GG thread and its quite good for keeping up on current news that isn't necessarily related to gaming. Mostly when Mark isn't being a kike motherfucker.
I want to start a thread about Zoroastranism and ancient Indo-Aryan, Persian, Scythian, and Anatolian culture and studies, but I don't have the energy for it.

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