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Unpopular Opinions Thread IV Blackshirt 02/23/2021 (Tue) 23:09:36 No.23767
You know the drill. We're moving soon but might as well get one started Previous thread: >>13706 Archives: https://archive.fo/6SXHA
>>23761 I'd be doing just that, but all of these hypotheses and ideas are for post-war society. With the race war on our doorsteps it would be downright cowardly to go off into the countryside and live the techno-agrarian dream. All of our energy at this point should be put into preparing for and engaging in the fight, subsistence farming and crafts come after the enemy has been removed and defeated.
>>23761 I definitely think this a valid criticism. We need more people practicing what they're preaching, and I definitely intend to, because it's utterly useless to become redpilled on anything and not implement it in some way as far as I am concerned. >>23769 There are certainly steps that one could probably begin to implement in their lives now that would be beneficial, but totally escaping into the countryside and pretending like the outside world doesn't exist is cowardice. As others have said, there is no sheltered meadow, and if jews win they will never leave you or your family alone. Just see Ruby Ridge
>>23771 Living in urban shitholes though is still unhealthy, although I agree with everything you say. We shouldn't run away from these places because they're shitty to live in, but to bring a better and generally much more healthier life towards ourselves while still being conscious of the hell scapes that are cities and some urban areas. Living in rural areas quite literally helps you spiritually, physically, and mentally.
This is one hell of a view to have when the board's almost closing down, but, I firmly believe that "good times" do not make people weak, you know that one image. I say this because we've never exactly been in the "good times" with what's always been in history. Any of the "good times" in history have been lead by (((merchants))) and their goyim lemmings happily falling into degeneracy and letting society fall.
Honestly fascist nowadays are retards. No one does anything, there are no chess piece being moved by fascists to usurper power or protect Whites outside of just shit-posting and using buzzwords to insult each on imageboards, and too many are too cowardly or too retarded to know how to combat agaisnt the jew despite claiming to be chads. All I've seen from fascists are crys, larps, and circle-jerking of e-cucks over and over again. As if I'm wrong considering /pol/ expected Trump to do the work we should of been doing years ago before he got elected, but nope gotta rely on an obviously kike business man to do the work for us. If no one takes action to bring about the future we want, then fascism is nothing more but a dumb larp that accomplishes nothing and was only successful, because of WW1 and communism. I'm sick of seeing non-activity, crying White people using retarded 13 do 51, 1488 and low IQ memes and only wanting to spread our beliefs during social media to a bunch of spergs instead of people who could spread ideals through Whites whether it is America or Europe. We need to stop being, coping and being cucked and actually take action for once. Hoping for a sudden change or others to do the work for you is quite literally the most retarded and cuckold thing you can do.
>>23784 >We need to stop being cucked and actually take action for once. Yes
>>23785 Most people on /pol/ are LARPers who think that posting memes on Twitter is some sort of revolutionary act, and don’t even say what they actually believe in real life because of “muh power level” (i.e. cowardice). I used to be more like that myself admittedly, but once one really thinks about it they do start coming around to what you’re saying. Even though I’d say that it’s a mistake to confuse /pol/ stuff with real life too much, no one is really doing enough and I don’t know. Does the Internet pacify us? Are we too afraid of what the jews will do? Are we too paranoid of everyone we meet being a potentail fed? Stuff absolutely does needs to start happening in real life, but I don’t know how unfortunately to even begin honestly
>>23785 Then what exactly do you suppose we do, because it doesn't seem that we have many options on the table other than violence and communicating through the internet.
>>23789 >Most people on /pol/ are LARPers who think that posting memes on Twitter is some sort of revolutionary act, and don’t even say what they actually believe in real life because of “muh power level” (i.e. cowardice) That's the problem I'm particularly referring about rightcucks and fashcucks both of them use twitter as a cope to deflect that action and influence through social circles is what brings about our world view. All I've seen these past years are fascist just crying jew and being edgy as if that's ever going to them. >Does the Internet pacify us? Yes and anything that makes up more occupied on the things that don't matter makes us weaker. >Are we too afraid of what the jews will do? Not to lie, I think we do. We know it's kikes killing us and yet no one fights back due to fear of being called a fed or a "Nazi", being lazy and carrying more about pointless desires such as video games and movies or having no idea on how to fight the enemy. >Are we too paranoid of everyone we meet being a potentail fed Yup, many fascist haven't taken the meaning of "keeping your friends/allies closer." to heart. Better off paranoid about a potential traitor than being afraid of having a fed in your circles. >Stuff absolutely does needs to start happening in real life, but I don’t know how unfortunately to even begin honestly That's quite literally the problem, all rightcucks and fascists have been doing is admiring the past and hoppean for the future to get better, which is pointless, because the future only gets worse every year passes. I've already been saving up money and have plans to built my own community and that isn't enough. The things we preach need to start happening or we are doom. >>23790 >Then what exactly do you suppose we do, because it doesn't seem that we have many options on the table other than violence and communicating through the internet. Nigger anything I couldn't care less! I don't care if we become scientists, doctors and lawyers and begun creating our corrupt institutions, companies, and or even take over the (((GOP))) in a way that the spic dreamed of doing. I even careless if we ended up buying the world or becoming jews and do high IQ strategies to get jews to castrate themselves and treat Whites as superiors. As long as it works and does not kill us in the end, then I quite don't give a shit.
>>23791 >Nigger anything I couldn't care less! I don't care if we become scientists, doctors and lawyers and begun creating our corrupt institutions, companies, and or even take over the (((GOP))) in a way that the spic dreamed of doing. This. For a while now I always said that it would be better if we literally look at what jews, commies, Protestants, etc all did to usurper power from the majority or those with greater influence, though we don't do the shit that messes over our DNA and makes us genetic freaks like the kikes cucks themselves repeatedly have with their women mating with goyim. All the shit jews are doing should be a lesson for us to take action and counteract no matter what WN and the other morons say. It won't be easy and it will take time, but in the end fighting for it and actually doing it should be the focus on everything although easier said than done but I still would rather have it done. If any Whites here are high IQ, then they should use that knowledge to control institutions and create their own secret societies and groups like the eternal jew did instead of hoping for the collapse which probably won't happen ever or until another 20 years. We need to acknowledge the enemy and their strengths and use it against them or create our own.
>>23785 >>23789 What about the ethnicity of the posters? Some of them aren't White. Are they trying to understand White nationalism? I mean I know that them doing anything won't mean anything.
>based shitskins do exist but we must trick then to thinking they're based so that they can never think of leaving our grasp >the word "goyim" must be dropped in /fascist/ because when a kike says that he means all non-jews (Inc arabs, spics, chinks). this opens a way for some to shill the "kikes are against everyone" while /fascist/ doesn't give two shits if kikes take advantage of other races. As long as Whites are not harmed by kikes, the concern for kikes can be over.
>>23794 Non-Whites aren't going to do anything.
>>23782 Good times in the civilizational sense aren't what you or I would consider good. Good times, by that ancient addage, means being able to live with minimal struggle, minimal conflict, and minimal independence. It doesn't mean life is actually more enjoyable or better in any way, you're just living it despondently in your city block cuck cage eating food you've no idea the source of. Good times are being able to eat a steak without growing, killing, and slaughtering the cow yourself, being able to stay completely clueless about basic notions of survival, homebuilding, crafts of any kind, you get the picture. It's the complete kind of decadence that feminizes men, since they don't have to struggle for the smallest thing constantly. Conversely, my and your idea of good times would be absolute hell for the average normie. These people want to be dependent, they love the effortless nature of their lives, and if they had so much as the liberty to go into the forest and just survive, they'd go comatose at the very thought. >>23785 I have much the same impression. I like /fascist/ for the discussions, but there's just so many people who don't so much as intend to fight back. I'm inclined to consider them traitors at this point, if you know how bad shit is and don't take measures to change it in even the slightest way, you're worse than a commie or a jew. Even among the based posters, this board isn't really the place to talk about effortposts in detail, partly because it's clearnet and partly because it's intended to be more theory-focused. If you're serious about doing something, it's a good idea to post here for theory and on /pol/ for action. You know where to find us. >>23790 >we don't have many options other than violence Yes. >>23794 Why are you faggots so obsessed with shitskin posters? It's like the negro boogeyman lives constantly in the back of your head, ready to shit up threads at a moment's notice. Shitskins don't matter, and never will. I don't give a shit if they understand White nationalism, their purpose is to take the bullet and go down quietly. Or loudly, I don't really care.
>>23790 >because it doesn't seem that we have many options on the table other than violence If this is your only option, then you would act upon them now instead of posting the based aussie man and disappointing him. Also every time fascists try to fight zog it ends in failure and embarrassment and gives more political propaganda along with excuses to rid of fascist from society even though they didn't do anything other that voice their opinions, which is why the feds love to use us as a blame for stuff we have never done. Violence should be used, although it isn't the only answer and won't succeed without the things necessary to rebel and get away with it. The idea that you should only use violence, especially in this day and age from a movement today that only has a couple thousand Whites who claim to be fascist or what the gov consider fash isn't enough to go agaisnt zog. Other things should be done such as being able to take over things the jews control whether it be violence or like c99cef says subversion and infiltration. The reason why no one wants to do this on the fash side is because they're too afraid of going to an academic and making deals with kikes to grab the bigger stick.
>>23804 >"fascist" debates with kike academics while his friends and family are being put into quarantine camps and given sterilization shots
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>>23791 >no one fights back due to fear of being called a fed or a "Nazi" Nigger have you been paying attention at all? You'll be deplatformed from all discussions and fired from your job due to witch hunting campaigns just for expressing opinions that are contrary to the globalist agenda, let alone fascist in nature. If you live in certain parts of Europe then there's a good chance you'll be locked up in jail as well because of "hate speech" laws. Fascism is neither a group nor a movement, it's just an idea with stray supporters here and there, there may be more supporters than we see but they're not connected. Even the right wing individuals/groups that get deplatformed from social media are retarded civic nationalists at worst who would probably join your enemies against you as soon as you advocated for a White nation. This "White people are dumb for not doing X" thing is stupid because White people themselves are divided to the point where the opposing side has significantly more Whites than your side does. Everyone and everything is stacked against you and you're telling people that they're stupid for not throwing their family and life away for no purpose. People will fight and join whatever movement when they perceive that it's not completely pointless, but in the meantime not everyone can be Hitler or dedicate their life to being a master infiltrator to weaken their enemy or somehow procure enough money to buy a town and then miraculously find a town-full of White nationalists to move in, or whatever ridiculous hollywood scenarios you imagine the average person should be doing about this situation.
Brenton despaired before he goodified a mosque and inspired thousands.
>>23805 You can't debate with kikes, which isn't what I was saying, but great job completely missing the point? >>23806 >You'll be deplatformed from all discussions and fired from your job due to witch hunting campaigns just for expressing opinions that are contrary to the globalist agenda, let alone fascist in nature. Where did I say you should openly speak your mind about fascism in the public? No shit you will get deplatformed and public enemy number one for expressing sympathy with fascism, what I'm suggesting isn't even remotely that but to do the means necessary to make such a thing possible even in Weimerica instead of hoping that we will win similarly to Hitler did in the 1936s. But there's still no excuses for being a coward, using this as an excuse to do absolutely nothing other than larping about how based Brenton and the how the holohoax was a myth on social media as if that's going to change anyone's minds. It's better to die fighting for something than allowing zog to find you and arrest or kill you. >Fascism is neither a group nor a movement, it's just an idea with stray supporters here and there, there may be more supporters than we see but they're not connected. And I call bullshit on that because Hitler, Mussolini, Cordenau all quite did not treat it as just merely idea. Fascism being only an "idea" is illustrating my point on why fascists lose. >Even the right wing individuals/groups that get deplatformed from social media are retarded civic nationalists at worst who would probably join your enemies against you as soon as you advocated for a White nation. Yes and the right wingers are retarded. Advocating for a nation for White people clearly does ever work as show for the fifth time. Some right wingers own businesses, institutions and other small or big organization and yet do nothing to put those to use to bring make our nations under our control again. Again if the GOP weren't owned by kikes and such cowardly cucks then they would of been as corrupt and as much of a mob as the democrat. >This "White people are dumb for not doing X" thing is stupid because White people themselves are divided to the point where the opposing side has significantly more Whites than your side does No it's because White are quite literally stupid and you have to accept that as fact sooner or later. White people are more willing to betray their own race and have no loyalty towards their kin than other races. Whites are more likely to distrust themselves and unwilling to work together in kinship than any of the (((Koreans))) or Chinks as they perfectly understand the importance of sticking together. White people could reject being fucked over by the kikes whether it be by death or silence, and yet despite all Whites understanding the outcome of everything after WW2 and the civil war was leading into, they still allowed themselves to be controlled and fought against their own kind just so niggers could be treated better. White people aren't perfect nigger, high IQ or not. >but in the meantime not everyone can be Hitler or dedicate their life to being a master infiltrator to weaken their enemy or somehow procure enough money to buy a town and then miraculously find a town-full of White nationalists to move in, or whatever ridiculous hollywood scenarios you imagine the average person should be doing about this situation. Nigger what? The fucking jews quite literally do this shit all the time and this is one of the reasons why they're able to take over America so easily. I don't care if "everyone can or can't do, all that matters is that there are people on our side who are quite capable of doing what I proposed, instead of crying like a bitch about how South African Whites are getting slaughtered. Again this is exactly why I speculate that fascists today are a bunch of cucks, because they always hold the mentality that you have and are only big at talking, but when told they have to do something or provided different ideas on what to do, they shut it down and downplay as merely fiction despite the fact that other Non-White like kikes being able to take over the world to the extent Whites have no achieved.
>>23794 Why do you feel the need to mention this at every opportunity? It's simple, non-Whites are undoubtedly being targeted by jews as well. Everyone will in the future will be eating the bugs and getting jewish poison injected into their veins if the jews are not overthrown and eliminated as a threat. There is plenty of good information here that theoretically anyone could benefit from, even if this board has been said time and time again to be focused mainly on White interests, which is what is the most important obviously.
>>23811 >(((Koreans))) what
>>23814 Koreans are the jews of East Asia and unironically admires them.
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>>23814 Time to dump my evidence
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>>23819 >that last video
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>>23811 >Cordenau
>>23854 Top kek
ignoring lolberg posting >The post-Mycenaean Greeks and the Romans are extremely overrated and trying to emulate the latter in any way post-Etruscans is shit. >Following the above, the whole "NORDS MEDS ARE ITALYNS WYTE R GREKS R TURKROACHES" shit is just Americans who take modern prog histories too seriously (you know the ones saying that Italains weren't seen as White despite the obvious lack of segregation against them) and Old Worlders who either read/watch too much American slop such seriously or just hate select Europeans with a passion like Varg. There are different varieties of European it's not that hard, only McWorlders find it too hard to grasp. >Yapping about IQ and inventions and shit is just showing your lack of loyalty. You don't really believe that your racial cluster is not just worth preserving but you should be ensuring its dominance over other racial clusters. Rather you just make appeals with how useful Whites are to other races or just yap about muh toys. >Ultimately, the roots of our big problems do not stem from the jews, who are merely dumping gasoline on the fire. They do not stem from Christianity either. They ultimately stem from perversions like Zoroastrianism and Socrates' bullshit. Read up on the Axial Age for more on this. >Women cannot and do not have any reliable loyalty to any organization bigger than their immediate kin and immediate peer circle and immediate "alpha." >Building on the above, practically no (European) man on the street (as opposed to the likes of billionaires) is an alpha since he can't actually enforce his control over any woman publicly lest he gets the cops called on him (making him be beta by default). This is one of many things that makes PUAs full of it. That and their notion that women have ever been the gatekeepers rather than tools. >Amish worship is just more of the retreatism from "the right" >Any "right-wing" movement that does not concern itself with societies before the Mid-Late Iron Age above all others is just cucking itself >All of the Dharmic theologies are the only legit pre-Christian Indo-European tradition. This triggers all the Vargtards >All lewdness to any degree should be concentrated in prostitution with appropriate branding for the women doing it >All "social theories" that refuse to reject any and all "bottom-up" narratives for the obfuscation they are for recognizing that history is either war between genetic clusters or the machinations of conspiracies should be trashed. That goes for the "right" as well as the left. >National Socialist Germany even if it managed to maneuver away from defeat would've not fixed enough of the big problems since it ultimately had no real long-term plan to undo Globohomo. >Americanism is a dead end.
>>23875 >our problems stem from perversions like Zoroastrianism and Socrates' bullshit >our problems stem from (actual Aryan sources) Either you're arguing in bad faith or you're retarded.
>>23903 >he hasn't actually read what's there on Socrates and just sees him as le quirky science hero taking on them meanies in authority >he also knows zip on how Zoroastrianism broke from traditional IE theology (namely its insistence on placing "salvation" on "the individual") Socrates was a fucking redditor before there was reddit.
>>23903 >our problems stem from (actual Aryan sources) Did you miss where he said "All of the Dharmic theologies are the only legit pre-Christian Indo-European tradition?" Socrates may be a bit iffy as far as I'm concerned, but Zoroastrianism is quite suspect in my mind, especially in how they repudiated the notion of cyclical time, declared the devas (daevas) to be evil beings and how some sects have outright instituted communism in the past (Mazdakism) all raise eyebrows for me. Even the other Aryan paths which sidelined the gods to an extent still have great respect for them (Buddhism, Jainism). It is minimally a degenerated form of the perennial Aryan Tradition, but maximally perhaps something far more sinister. When we realize that devas / gods are not just 'archetypes' or other gay forms of crypto-atheism, it should become even more worrying why this change was made.
In practice, I find religion is downstream from the political, resulting in most people twisting dogma in order to have it fit. If Christianity is/was a slave morality, it is only because the political and urban structure of the Roman Empire created the conditions for a slave morality to take root. >>23819 You forgot to mention the feminism and Eight Goddesses shadow cabal that ran South Korea for years >>23903 Have you read the Republic? Not only is the entire rhetorical style based upon using another philosopher and a yes man as his mouthpiece, but his envisioned state has all children raised communally, not knowing their own mother and father.
>>23925 The evidence shows there has been an element of "world healingism" that includes rejection of tradition in Indo-Europa well before Judaism.
>>23929 >"world healingism" Care to elaborate? Not seeing anything relevant with a cursory search.
>>23930 Heal the world. Tikkum Olam. jews We Wuz on how they invented it, but Indo-European had long had a history of trying to "fix" the world absent of Semites as shown by Plato.
This board got taken over nu/pol/ faggotry and I miss mongol and synarchist anon
>>23816 That is chinks, chinks are the jew worshippers. Koreans are pretty based, alot of the men are in the same boat as us. I wouldn't buy that jew propaganda the images show. They are trying to poison the well and make you think that Koreans worship them, when in reality they are the ones destroying their society as well.
>>23951 also neinchan glows in the dark
>>23951 >This board got taken over nu/pol/ faggotry and I miss mongol and synarchist anon Nothing has changed aside from the pepe posting nein faggot.
>>23955 >nein faggot. see >>23954
>>23956 >>23954 Most former Neinchan posters are fine, I think a few of them need to realize though that this board had an existing culture beforehand and doesn't work exactly like default /pol/. That's the biggest problem honestly.
>>23957 A lot of the existing culture was based on commie shit and kosher thug. Most of the other stuff was good though. Part of the problem is nein posters don't care about board culture as much as saving the White race. Boards are just a means to an end.
>>23963 I don't know if the Nazbols and Kosher Thug-types really ever defined board culture that much, but it's definitely not wrong to say that they were a major part of the oldest part of /fascist/. Not that it was completely cucked of course, it was just more mixed in the beginning from what I am remembering. >Part of the problem is nein posters don't care about board culture as much as saving the White race. Boards are just a means to an end. Even this board is a means to an end in a sense, in that one should ideally apply their knowledge in some way (I mean this in a broad sense, of course), but yeah I know what you mean.
This board isn't about fascism. It's generally NatSoc/WN//pol/ themed. Any fascist discussion is incidental or mislabeling.
>>23963 >>23964 >Part of the problem is nein posters don't care about board culture as much as saving the White race. Boards are just a means to an end. this is a general theme with online fascism politics boards. its very much about proselytizing, a means to their individual end. >>23955 you're kidding, right?
>>23966 >This board isn't about fascism. > It's generally NatSoc/WN//pol/ themed. So it’s about fascism. If you thought this board was intended to be exclusively about Italian Fascism or something you are totally missing the mark.
>>23964 Probably the biggest factor is that all the major /pol/ boards got censorcucked by mega corporations and this is one of the few politically related boards to survive. If there were still huge /pol/ boards around then this place could have stayed completely obscure. If /fascist/ wants to keep their particular board culture without becoming censorcucks themselves, it's in their best interest for a new big /pol/ board to come around that is resilient against being shut down.
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Traditionalists will ruin everything by squealing about Modernity and turning practically every discussion into the Youtube comment section of Religious vs Atheist while spamming fedoras. You have been warned.
>>24141 The reason that these debates are had is because we already agree on the fundamenals, e.g. >Fascism / NatSoc is the answer >White Genocide is happening >The jews are the perpetrators >1488 This is the foundation that we luckily do not have to dispute much at all. Other issues such as modernity cannot be avoided though. It is key to many of our problems.

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