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Unpopular Opinions Thread III Blackshirt 11/22/2020 (Sun) 20:20:22 No.13706
You know the drill. Previous thread: >>6673 Archive: https://archive.fo/PAxr1
Edited last time by FashBO on 11/23/2020 (Mon) 04:00:35.
mass converting to judaism is the most pragmatic solution to our problems. they have the perfect setup going on, its everything we always wanted and theres no reason we cant be a part of it too.
>>13718 Converts are not respected and are just a step above cattle (goyim) in a jews eyes.
>>13719 after one generation they wont care anymore. eventually the genes will work their way up to even the most hardcore of the jews until we have created the perfect monstrosity and then truly nothing will be able to stop it. its the natural order that this happens. once the aryan and the jew merge together the hierarchy of races will be stabilized and be made permanent. their religion is everything we need and takes away all of the weakness that have crippled us. aryan spirit and intelligence combined with the master mentality of judaic religion. uuhhhhhhhhh.........ooooohhhhhhhhh....... .... ....yyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhh......
>>13718 The real redpilled solution is not to convert to Judaism but to concoct a "White Judaism" - this term of course should not be taken literally, what I am referring to is a religion which recognizes and champions the supremacy of Whites and our moral obligations to ourselves, but not necessarily the Other (i.e. everyone else). In a sense this has already been done by some though. Ben Klassen's Creavity and Cosmotheism vaguely work like this
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>>13721 Jews have already mixed with Whites (Ashkenazis) and now they rule the entire planet and work to exterminate Whites. I think you underestimate the endurance of the genes of the Eternal Jew
>>13721 Those small, round bald spot caps are just too ridiculous.
>>13722 cosmotheist indo-europeanism with esoteric hitlerism as the spearhead? >>13724 of all the possible benefits, of all the possible negatives, this is the one that was the factor that broke you one way or the other? the small hats?
>>13725 Some aspects of Savitri Devi's thought are reminiscent in a sense of some things Pierce said, but I don't know if Esoteric Hitlerism could really fit into the idea of Cosmotheism proper. In broad terms they are compatible though https://www.savitridevi.org/superman.html
>>13725 Also the practice of circumcision is barbaric and disgusting.
>>13727 its a small price to pay for survival
I believe that not all X are like that. I think many see videos of a race acting bad but not really go around the world to see for themselves. The obvious exception to this are jews.
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>>13731 I'd rather go extinct as race than merge with Jews
>>13734 There are obviously non-Whites who don't engage in stereotypically non-White behaviors, but we can't view this situation from an individual viewpoint. Statistically speaking they are lower IQ, engage in more criminal activity, are a bigger drain on the state, etc. And of course the state of their native lands attests to all of this. Some niggers might be productive, but that doesn't mean that their family is, or that their offspring will be. It's like when someone says that Whites are the greatest race. We obviously don't mean each and every single White, we're talking on average and in terms of latent potential in comparison to non-White populations. The entire "not all X" type of reasoning is due to atomization. Everyone knows that not literally every nigger is a gangbanger thug selling crack.
>>13735 Great meme anon, my sides.
>>13706 To BO we should start Archiving these, if you haven't already, In fact i'll go do it. As for the Unpopular opinion, i think we should stop worrying about whether people believe the holocaust happened or not, we seek to do what hitler didn't better to get people over that hurdle without making thyem stake their tent in the cuck like lands of "a place for every race".
>>13749 I think more specifically, while Holohoax infographics are a great shortcut for redpilling someone actually intelligent (it's how I woke up after all), it is a waste of time on normalfags. You can give them all the dots in the world, they will never connect them, they will only listen if it is made "OFFICIAL".
>>13749 I sometimes go to archive things but it seems like a lot of you guys are pretty proactive when it comes to threads here. I’ll have to edit the archive into the OP post in case anyone wants to read it.
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>>13752 Any idea why the last one didn't go to 750 before Bumplocking? or does it only take effect if the thread was made after the limit was changed.
>>13751 >>13749 I obviously keep a few Holohoax redpills up my sleeve for normalfags but in talking about it with people I’ve always worked towards making them think about (1) Why would one want to persecute the Jews in the first place, (2) Why there is no written order or explicit statement from Hitler or anyone else for that matter that they are going to try to kill them all, especially if on an industrial scale, (3) the fact that all so-called “death camps” were in Communist-controlled territory, and (4) minimizing what the Third Reich did by means of comparison with the bombing of Dresden, Soviet rapes and atomic bombings. Making them think that the Jews could quite possibly have gotten what they deserved is a good enough first step for me. Full deprogramming can follow
>>13755 That has me confused as well. I just checked myself at what I had it set at after seeing your post, and like you thought (and like I had told everyone) it *says* that the bump limit is 750. I hadn’t thought of what you said though about it only applying to threads made after I changed the setting. I guess we’ll find out in time.
>>13723 Not only this, but even the thought of adopting the tactics they used to get the upper hand makes my flesh crawl. Comes off as very insincere. If every White is a jew, Whites are finished.
>>13762 The only thing I “admire” about Jews is their unashamed ethnic particularism. Beyond that, I have to agree. Their effeminate, snake-like and backstabbing kike behavior is the antithesis of that of the Aryan. Funnily enough the stereotypical “wicked Jew” in the Haggadah story of the four sons is the masculine and gentile-looking “muscle Jew”
>>13762 I have met intelligent idiots who think that is exactly what we must do, "because we have to adapt to the changing conditions" and as luck would have it they are mostly slavs, the, I guess you could say, leader actually thinks their model is evolutionarily superior and that Aryans could be SOOO much better than the jew at it, if we would but try and get over our "moralistic objections" to it, never mind that our objections to it are literally provided to us by nature and only succeed for the jew because we have so far insisted (out of necessity and a bit of arrogance, I think) on creating cities so large with underclasses of racial enemies as slaves that they can blend in and be of great use within them, to top it all off he calls himself a Dharmist yet thinks National Socialism is a jewish ideology, even calling us Judaeo-Nazi's, this despite the fact that much smarter men and women than he have correctly identified that National Socialism = Dharma = Physis = Natural Law as Worldview.
>>13764 >he calls himself a Dharmist yet thinks National Socialism is a jewish ideology, even calling us Judaeo-Nazi's God, how does one miss the obvious so hard? I mean, it doesn’t even take any mental gymnastics to demonstrate the exact formula you laid out in your post – NS = Dharma = Physis = Natural Law. I feel like one would purposely have to ignore the obvious in order to come to such a conclusion.
>>13765 He dislikes Hitler(calling him Shitler) because he killed Slavic Intelligentsia and, has specifically mentioned Polish Intelligentsia, disregarding that those that were killed, were either traitors or Jews and legitimately thinks it was done because Hitler "feared their Iranic Spirit", it is as ridiculous as it sounds.
>>13766 Ah, a classic case of Slavic butthurt, it seems.
>>13767 Seems to be so, my worry is that this attitude is all too common amongst slavs especially the very jew -like behavior and advocacy for such, I'm beginning to think Slavs should have to prove they are Aryan before being allowed anywhere near an NS nation of any sort..
>>13768 Luckily not all Slavs are bluepilled. There seem to be a lot of good lads in Ukraine, and a good deal of pagans compared to the what we see in the West in Russia with Rodnovery, Ynglism and similar religions, a lot of which are filled with NatSocs and the J-woke.
>>13769 Oh I know that they aren't all lost causes but this is one of those Pagans. He repeatedly quotes and forwards messages he has written previously which is annoying in the extreme but his choices and what he advocates for place him in the Traitor camp and I like to keep abreast of what those kind are doing so I can save those who can be saved and better argue and strategize against such positions in the future.
>>13722 >>13721 This. Ben Klassen basically laid out “White Judaism” in conformance with Nature’s Laws
>>13772 One thing about Klassen’s approach though, is that even though he’s fundamentally on the right track, Pierce’s vision to me is far more powerful. It’s not otherworldly, but it is certainly spiritual in a way that Klassen’s crass atheism (“spooks in the sky”) is not.
>>13749 >people believe the holocaust happened or not, we seek to do what hitler didn't better to get people over that hurdle without making thyem stake their tent in the cuck like lands of "a place for every race". I'm new to /fascist/. May I know if >"A place for every race" is a cuck idea is the normal opinion in her regarding views on other races? If so, what's your take on people who believe otherwise but are still in this board.
these bump limits leave me confused >>13620 --movies-- in them, where is the faith? did you see a single temple? any reference to this being? >>13624 >For example, they basically defined the United States as a Whites-only nation where only a tiny amount of property-owning males could vote. where is the explicit reference to Whites? >>13645 looks like monarchy or anything similar is a thousand times more honest then and im surprised i'd say that >>13656 until they found a big leader to channel them for some bigger looting campaign
uo: since most people are stupid and npcs and we do need less people on this planet and since jews have been winning for a long time already, why not side with the davos bois?
>>13783 >Muh cope cope cope cope Post when you have an argument and you don't like a cuckchan retard.
>>13790 You didn't give examples, you insulted and mocked it like a dumbass who has no idea what he is talking about. We already have proof and an indication that the NS did indeed have bases in antarctica and the UFOs were indeed built. You just a dumb niggerfaggot who's willing to listen libshit intellectualism.
.>>13790 >prove me wrong faggot i already gave some examples in the post you quoted Your examples are retarded, because believing in the Anatarctica base doesn't shit on nor ruin NS, your leap of logic sucks. >also serrano's worldview is deeply pessimistic and just another form of escapism T. doesn't know anything about Serrano >>13796 >lol the one super tech the united states didn't put to good use after paperclip i think you deserve a butthurt badge too, well earned How exactly do you know that? The US were willing to copy and steal many designs that came from the NS government along with the fact that even admitted that the UFOs were high tech. You're indeed retarded. Congrats on the larp of being NS, retard.
>>13718 Literally impossible and that would only end up being used against us knowing how kikes are only end for things for themselves. >>13766 I hate how right wingers use the ole "y-you're a kike!" as a way to ridicule as something they don't personally like . Does he hate the British empire and their kikes as well? If not then it's just further proof that he is just a subversive. >>13790 >also serrano's worldview is deeply pessimistic and just another form of escapism No it isn't Serrano's worldview was never pessimistic unless you wanna say that Savitri was pessimistic as well, because the both of them had worked and encouraged the National Socialist to get in power. Serrano said nothing different then what Himmler believed in and even used to as away to solidify why they should stay in power.
>>13797 I wonder if the shit bob lazar talks about was actually nazi german tech captured or reverse engineered or built with stolen blueprints
>>13782 >another side ‘“let’s side with kikes!’ post Organic or not? Kikes are disgusting child molesters, filthy inbred rats and the parasite of nations. We will never side with them, ever. Anyone who sides with the Jews is going to find themselves in a mass grave along with his heeb buddies The Jews are literally the antithesis of all Aryan values. Most people are NPCs, but I want a world where White NPCs can be imbued with the Aryan values and made better and stronger. Jews want us to be degraded and addicted to pornography, alcohol, gambling and sugar. I want a depopulated world for the future, both because it is more beautiful, and because it will secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. I’m not even convinced Jews want it, but if they do it’s so they can keep exploiting and sucking the blood out of their golems for just a little bit longer.
>>13783 >>13790 Go away newfag, your autistic posts have been shitting up the board for a few days now and you offer nothing of substance. plus you can' t stop typing like a dumb nigger back to cuckchan >>13778 >>"A place for every race" is a cuck idea >is the normal opinion in her regarding views on other races? Here? I'd say yes, generally speaking. If someone believes otherwise they're free to do so, but I bet that they will be changing their tune after some time, since holding the idea that every race is entitled to land and a nation-state of their own is truly untenable in practice if one is holding to any sort of realism at all, plus one will always struggle for the survival of their group before all others, even if others have to be thrown under the bus to secure the existence of our people. Now even if I don't believe that others have an absolute right to land or existence, that doesn't necessarily mean that we have to take their land from them, it just recognizes that politics is the progression of the struggle for existence among groups, and that there will be conflict, and victors and losers in this conflict
>>13781 The movies don't matter and I do not think any temples were mentioned at least not in LOTR itself, might have been mentioned in Silmarillion but been a while, regardless their areas of worship seemed from thewo context to me to be in the open, not confined to temple spaces, like the White Tree Of Gondor for instance.
>>13778 Ethnoglobe does seem to be the majority opinion, so yes, that would be the norm, and as for other opinions existing, sure there are some who want to be more merciful than I believe is required, but they do tend to get ruthlessly refuted, and sometimes mocked, any time they are brought up. My take is to believe what you will, I prefer the uncompromising truth and taking the stance most correct, even if it's a brutal path to take, myself.
>>13801 >I hate how right wingers use the ole "y-you're a kike!" as a way to ridicule as something they don't personally like . Does he hate the British empire and their kikes as well? I do believe he dislikes Anglos, but that is just typical of Slavs, so doesn't really indicate anything. He is a subversive, and is so autistically retarded he thinks that he can make the contradictory Anarcho-Fascism work. >If not then it's just further proof that he is just a subversive. I needed no further proof than him thinking Slavic blood is what gave me my intelligence. Pictures are some more of what i have posted previously and his Judaeo-nazi post.
>>13849 Forgot one.
>>13849 >Slavo-Iranic nobility Top kek Slavs were literally pulled out of the mud by Nordics (i.e. Varangians) and even during later times the Romanovs are heavily tied up with Nordics from what is modern Germany
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>>13856 >it's the troll n shitpost thread No, it's not, retard
>>13858 >your unpopular opinion hurts me pls stop like you try to forget what unpopular according to chan culture is damn newfags why cant you even...
>>13856 >they do nigga No they do not, and refer to me as "Nigga" one more time and BO has my vote to ban your useless ass, not that he needs it. >even more because i asked about them on purpose, not the books countless millions saw them and they are rather inspiring too, recycled by right wing people for racist memes We aren't "right wing", the movies were shit, and an insult to J.R.R Tolkien and his legacy, the answer is the same regardless, THEY WORSHIPED IN THE OPEN! >jews saw this and tried to have the hobbit movies pozzed with diversity, strong women, racial mixing, etc. I have the books, I do not need the movies nor do i consider it an insult that they pozzed the Hobbit as I HAVE THE BOOK. >so again, is there any sign of religion in the movies as far as humans are concerned? There's little to no sign of religion no matter who's concerned, that wasn't something broached in LOTR, either the books or the movies that subject was covered in other books in the Legendarium. >>13856 <Ethnoglobe does seem to be the majority opinion >not really it's just your opinion that's all Nope, it's my opinion and the opinion of at least the BO and two or three other posters, so fuck you.
>>13863 >Nope, it's my opinion and the opinion of at least the BO and two or three other posters, so fuck you. I'd even argue that among core daily users of /fascist/ ethnoglobe is the "orthodoxy". Not that it's the enforced opinion, but I recognize that I am often talking to certain anons that seem to post at least as much as I do here. There is somewhat of consensus among these users on Christianity, ethnopluralism, the importance of the Laws of Nature, etc.
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>>13856 >ethnopluralist types like a nigger
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>>13869 >a space for every race!
>>13849 >. He is a subversive, and is so autistically retarded he thinks that he can make the contradictory Anarcho-Fascism work. Yup he sounds mentally retarded. I don't understand why so many people think that anarachism is le ebin and cool. Also he cries about muh famine and diseases and other shit that can't be pinned on the NS and then claims to be an anarchist. Anarchy is truly for the mentally disabled. >err what? i don't recall devi pushing the gnostic blackpill and earth bad Neither did Serrano I like how you still haven't brought any proof that he is a blackpiller. >besides let me tell you that the worldview principle is not just about any activism to bring ns to reality What are you on about? What do you consider to be reality faggot, because you sound like an plebbitor who up and denies anything that further proves the greatness of NS. I don't think you even understand how NS or fascism was even created considering a lot of esoteric and romanticism ideals have brought our foundations.
>>13866 I agree, though of course I am one of those users, mostly after I get home from work or on days off, but I try to at least keep up with whats been said for an hour or so every day so that I don't get too bogged down in the blackpills.
>>13873 It's good that users are reaching a consensus on some issues.
>>13872 >>13849 >Anarcho-Fascism Why do people make this dumb shit up? The quickest refutation to anarchism is crushing them with the superior power of the state. Might is right. Statists will always crush anti-statists, and if the anti-statists win they will inevitably construct a state. Political naturalism is the only truth. Government begins at the level of the family, and everything more complex than that is merely built on this foundation and elaborated from the structure of the family.
>>13856 >think again, defending ns doesnt mean you defend serrano or even his peculiar spin on messianic hitler or the providential ns man, which are ideas we can find correct separately from serranos ramblings about plasmic buttsex and sheeiit >err what? i don't recall devi pushing the gnostic blackpill and earth bad Either you're a subversive or a newfag. Serrano didn't say anything of the like you're making shit up, because Serrano believed that world is shit, because is because it lacks heroes and an age where most today now, lack a heroic spirit to defeat Judaic materialism infecting the world and that NS was the only thing that could bring that age back. He believed that we should take action to change world, because only Hyperborean Aryans were capable of doing so. The idea that we believe that Hitler was just going to come back is a lie. It's obvious that we must take action as soon as possible, because even if the NS did succeed in making a base, they are taking too long to stop the destruction of our world or probably left for another world. >not really it's just your opinion that's all Do you really think that ethnoglobe is possible or that the fascist would ever really truly be for the idea of every space for ever race, when they wanted their own to rule over other lands for the sake of their nation?
>>13876 It's just a larp to be honest, I think people do this shit, because they're mostly dumb and young or just want to seem cool and edgy. It might also be because there are fascist who desire destruction and chaos, because they see that most things today are Judaic. It's still retarded, because you don't need chaos to destroy kikery and their culture.
>>13872 It is quite retarded, I mean I want to see this all burn, so that we can birth something new from the nourishment of the ashes but I am no Anarchist. I really don't get it either, I think he's just a butthurt slav who found the source of European religion and thinks his people actually are the Aryans, directly descended from Iranians, it seems. >>13876 Because they're butthurt, or think they are smarter than everyone else. the strange thing is someone who actually is smarter knows the value of the wisdom of the past and can see who and what is correct, most of the time instinctually. For a good understanding of geniuses see Edward Dutton, in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjYaG4PrwrE he's been on NRM podcasts before, I dislike NRM myself, but they do good work.
>>13886 >I dislike NRM Why? They look pretty solid
>>13874 Never seen such a hiveminded place in an imageboard.
>>13863 >it's my opinion and the opinion of at least the BO and two or three other posters, so fuck you. That's not a lot. >>13871 Did you quote the wrong post?
>>13887 I have spent time in their English language chat on telegram where some of the hosts of their radio show and podcasts are admins, as for being solid, i'll throw their last posted rules into here when i can get a mod to post them again and also i'll tell you I've seen people literally say in there that NRM deradicalized them from positions like ours. The do good work and are certainly optical but uncompromising, but they seem exceptionally stuck in a sort of limbo, or at least have been for the last 20 years or so.
>>13891 That's what I have identified there could be plenty more but with Tor, etc, we may never know.
>>13888 Bullshit, 4chan's /pol/ is more like a hivemind than here, hell bunkerchan is a literal hivemind.
>>13888 >Gets ass blasted for being a dumbass <T-this imageboard is a hivemind If you don't like the fact that we don't agree with your gay insults and lack of argumentation then go back to nu/pol/.
>>13888 >Never seen such a hiveminded place in an imageboard. And that's a good thing.
>>13908 >okay so board with 5 posters is not /fascist/ anymore it's /extermination/ What the fuck are you on about? This is a board that still talks about everything fascist and related to fascism, there is no contradictions to extermination nor is anyone saying that you have to be an ethnoglobalist to be here. If you support ethnopluralism, then don't expect there to not be anon's who disagree and want to debate with you on why you're wrong. >so an ethnoglobe is an entire planet reserved for one people Correct if you had enough braincells in your thick skull then you would of realized that by now and understand why we support this viewpoint by lurking on this board. One people who make the majority of humanity. >maybe i missed the slip and a good bunch of posters in dharma and japan thread are just larpers? >Muh larp How about using words that actually go by there meaning instead of petty insults? Also where roleplay in those boards, because anons doing nothing else, but discuss what dharma is and other relation topics that relate to it and the Japan board is nothing else, but talks and admiration of Japanese culture, history and peoples. >devi was married to a pajeet and serrano was friend with the daila lama Who cares their works are still great to read and learn from, Nitschze was an admirer of kikes and yet I still love his work. >where is the consistency in this if you're such ethnoglobists? What a leap of logic. > one was a race traitor and the other was friend to an asian Congrats for exposing that you aren't a fascist or an NS at least. Saying that we should dislike Serrano for being friends with an asian is like saying we should hate Rockwell for working with a nigger. >you are a complete joke his view is completely dark gnostic You still haven't brought any evidence to support this claim. > i never disputed the validity of ns and that's actually a total red herring and strawman argument on your part Funny for you to cry strawmen when you were constantly strawmanning those who believed in the UFOs. >you know very little about the roots of fascism and i never found that underlying idea that the world is shit in ns although some few people took at face value the tales of greater successive races as brought by blavatsky but it never went beyond and nobody knows where she pulled that stuff from You don't know anything about fascism, because many of the NS were believer of esoteric beliefs, Himmler believed that they were Nordic aliens in outerspace and the Italian fascist were believers of mysticism. The stories of mythology along with the romantic movement were both of one the roots of fascism. >that type of thinking is not specific to serrano Then proof it you fucking idiot. >core to serrano's stupid stories is precisely that hitler is going to come back with a fucking epic fleet of ufos See what I'm talking about, you literally no idea what you're talking about. The idea that Hitler would come back is not a form of weakness nor does it mean we should have to sit on our asses all day and do nothing and wait for him to come back. Serrano never said anything about waiting around or that NS should just allow shit to happen. >let's reclaim our own countries before talking about the complete eradication of all other races Once again you're being dumb, because ethnoglobe is exactly that. Reclaiming the world also means reclaiming our countries, how are we going to reclaim our countries by being Ethnopluralists when niggers, spics, chinks, and kikes all don't give shit about our home, but it's exploitation? >n nature there is conflict but i also see a large variety of life I see also see a variety of life, but I don't see it in anyone who it in non-Whites. The ideas and beliefs of fascism would never work under a fascist state and giving niggers a land to border yours is a recipe for disaster for niggers do not care for laws and those who aren't them.
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>>13908 >/extermination/
>>13908 >okay so board with 5 posters is not /fascist/ anymore it's /extermination/ Since when did extermination and fascism oppose each other. I am for extermination nigger and you're going to have to get over it. > good to know and i guess the japanese thread is hypocritical and people posting in it are also for removal of japanese an ethnostate is a state reserved for one people, so an ethnoglobe is an entire planet reserved for one people Lol what? I don't think you understand what we mean by ethnoglobe retard, the nips were honorary aryans meaning that they were the allies of White fascists. If the nips were to once again be those same honorary aryans then they won't be exterminated.
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LotR is a classic of epic storytelling, backed by rich worldbuilding. it also provides many insights into globalist plans for subversion and consolidation. the movies aren't terrible, and they have provided meme material (pic related). but ultimately, they're derivative action movies which fail to capture the feel and atmosphere of the books.
>>13934 I think you meant this for the "Stating facts" thread.
>>13772 A "White Judaism" is not the same thing as "Whites should just like be jews bro haha it's the best way." >>13856 I don't understand how someone could type like this and not feel like a complete retard gas yourself >>13934 "LotR is good and the movies are subpar" is not something I would consider an unpopular opinion, at least on imageboards. I also like the importance it places on those who are natural born leaders (Aragorn, Gandalf) and the folly of nepotism versus recognizing those who are best fit for a particular task (Boromir was lured by the ring when Faramir was not, for example, simply because Faramir was the better man and in Two Towers Tolkien nearly says so outright - he did say as much in his letters, I believe).
>>13961 >A "White Judaism" is not the same thing as "Whites should just like be jews bro haha it's the best way." Oh, of course, I know this. I don't know whether the anon saying that Whites should just be like Jews is arguing in good faith or not for his alleged unpopular opinion, but in case he is, I am trying to show that there are ways for Whites to be particularistic and unapologetic about it without becoming foreskin-munching inbred yids
>>13983 >real question is since when did they go hand in hand? >Answering a question with a question You're so dumb it's not even funny, my last post and (You). Fascism is not a moralistic nor does it care for multiple races, the entire point of fascism is to enhance and en-strengthen the race/ethnicity. Why do you think Mussolini and Hitler created a war economy and establish that military was going to be their main focus? The Germans and Italian fascist did not care for other races nor did they want establish fascist state for them. They wanted their own kin to rise to the top and be dominant. Thus why Hitler dreamed and promoted pan Germanism and dreamed of a Germania empire and Mussolini was an pan-Italian and dreamed of a Roman Empire. >you having such an opinion is not the issue There is no issue, you have an issue with it personally for whatever reason may be. I don't recognize every race and every state for them I only want one state and that state is built for the White Aryans.
>>13983 >sure but that wasn't the question looks like people need glasses because reading a simple question has proven harder than i initially thought I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to the anon who posted about it without quoting anyone, you blundering invalid.
Gahh I’m sick of reading this drivel
BO can you just ban this retard? He's annoying and shitting up the thread being retarded.
>>13994 It’s impossible to ban torniggers. This is the same problem we had with Integralist-kun earlier this year. I can make it fruitless to post though by deleting this shit though
>>13995 Well, thanks any way this conversation was getting annoying.
>>13996 I’m tired of reading it, so no problem. Also sorry if I make this annoying to read with mass deletions.
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>>13943 >>13961 to clarify, I was responding to the bickering posts above, which referenced LotR. I should've quoted to make this clearer: >>13863
(1) There is nothing wrong with LARPing, but the line between a good LARP and a bad LARP is an extremely narrow one. Aesthetics are a vital part of good politics. (2) You’d almost have to retarded not to be a National Socialist in the current year. (3) Emotions are for weaklings and women. Anger, sadness, and other “involuntary” responses are something which need to be mastered as much as vices such as porn and alcohol usage.
>>14150 Acting like emotions don't exist hardly makes you better than a nigger and a liar. There's a difference between being in control over yourself and not letting your emotions control you, and not having emotions to begin with. If you didn't have any emotions then you'd hardly be better than some soulless golem.
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Post moar lotr memes plox, i'm collecting them for future generations.
I think i should be acceptable for someone to have an interest in a foreign culture, as long as it doesn't supersede their love of their own nation and race.
>>14152 The idea of soullessness and emotionality can't be equated in the slightest. The people we label as "golems" are not unemotional in the slightest, in fact they are hyper-emotional, flying into a rage over the slightest disturbance or instance of wrongthink, or breaking down in tears, etc. >>14154 There's nothing wrong with that, just see the Japan thread. I personally really like Japan myself too.
>>14150 >There is nothing wrong with larp Depends on how you larp to be honest. If you act like a sperg, then your larp is cringe. >You’d almost have to retarded not to be a National Socialist in the current year I agree with this, but the only fascists I can see who aren't National Socialists are reactionaries and non-Whites. >Emotions are for weaklings and women. No, emotions are healthy and natural. What is important is that we do not allow our emotions get in a way of our tasks and accomplishments. Controlling our expressions and feelings is what is important, turning ourselves into cold and robot-like slaves will be probably ruin us.
>>14190 >Depends on how you larp to be honest. If you act like a sperg, then your larp is cringe. Definitely. It is spergery that often ruins a LARP, as well as bad aesthetics. A good LARP has to be done by someone extremely confident, as well as with a good sense of aesthetics. I always enjoy a good sense of spectacle. Mishima was good at this in particular. >What is important is that we do not allow our emotions get in a way of our tasks and accomplishments. Controlling our expressions and feelings is what is important, turning ourselves into cold and robot-like slaves will be probably ruin us. I pretty much agree with this. Absolute coldness has only a circumscribed area where it makes sense. I think of Breivik, who was described again and again as a sort of absolutely self-controlled and stoic communist-killing machine. This was purposely cultivated by him, though it is not exactly a practical skill.
Anime reaction images are cringe. Trannies adopted them en masse in fact.
>>14215 Trannies also drink water, anon.
We should apply any kind of tatics and strategies in our fight, even if they are dishonorable or straight up jewish in their nature
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>>14215 Trannies will never achieve the idealized and supernormal perfection of the anime girl, so it is likely driving them just a little closer to suicide every time they post one. >>14217 It's almost mandatory at this point. When you're enemy is being dishonorable, you are either dishonorable back to them or you end up disadvantaged merely because you think honor is more important in this situation than your own survival and victory. This is a quite different enemy we are facing.
>>14215 Trannies also breathe, I suggest you stop breathing, otherwise you're going have too much in common with trannies.
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>>14215 Then don't let trannies encroach on things you like. Trannies play mental gymnastics and think that wanting to be a pastel colored magical girl is an identity itself. If you're an anime fan, gatekeep the fuck out of anime. Know that in Japan, even to the most woke Nihonjin, nip trannies are effectively court jesters (Haruna Ai, Matsuko Deluxe) and any media that paints them as anything to be taken seriously can usually be traced to zainichi or Jews or some other unbearable group.
>>14241 What other non-White based entertainment do jews infiltrate? After all jews are not just against Whites, but everyone else.
>>14242 I still can't get over that yellow kike Motegi and what he plans to do to Nipland. I knew it was going to happen soon.
>>14243 I was asking for other examples.
>>14242 imageboards
>>14242 Jews worm their way into everything. I can’t name anything concrete off the top of my head since honestly based media (somewhat oxymoronic in my opinion) is pretty rare nowadays, but with their money they will slowly attempt to warp everything into a direction beneficial to their interests in the long-term. They’ll even preach socially conservative messages with the slightest hint of pozz to start, but once they’ve gotten a foothold they will rapidly accelerate the subversion.
>>14294 >care to explain how we're enhancing and en-strengthening (sic) ourselves by, say, exterminating all nepalese and japanese? Simple removing them allows us to utilize the resources they have and will not use, and even if they could they would not use them as well as we would as well as we would, and their land becomes available for colonization by our own enabling us to have greater numbers of people thus strengthening our potential and actual soldiery by leaps and bounds, it also cuts out the need for international trade disallowing manipulation over who has what resources, as a bonus it also removes the threat of those partiucular racial enemies killing us ever again, the negatives are pretty much limited to loss of soldiers lives and pissing off liberals and christcucks, who would be targeted for death anyway. >none of these would be empires remotely came close to a projected plan of ethnoglobalism, are you aware of that? yes they did, or did you think that Italy and germany would never come into conflict? this "No more brother wars" shit really means "No more brother wars... until "brothers" are all that is left to fight". >you're such a newfag to chans that you don't even know it's impossible to ban torposters unless you block all of tor This doesn't prove newfaggotry, it proves at best a momentary lapse in memory or a failure to notice you were on tor. >the discussion might get annoying because you keep getting owned point after point You have owned nobody, at all, your points are retarded and infantile, National Socialist Germany and Fascist Italy both would have sought after an Ethnoglobe, given maybe another 20 or so years of full operation, hitler himself talked about it at several points in the Table Talks specifically in how he thought the slaves, sorry slavs, would have to be dealt with. >you're also actually making unbelievably stupid claims see above you don't even know basics about fascism and ns germany you argue they were supporters of the ethnoglobe which is an absolutely bogus of a claim if any this is straight out of jewish books about the evil germany that wanted to exterminate everybody Many i am sure did Himmler and goebbles both were quite open about theiur desire to see jews cgonew from the world, and if they had half the experience with other races as most White Europeans and Americans/Anglospheroids these days do, they too would have sought complete extermination of all or most racial enemies. >what next? they killed six million jews? I literally don't care any more, let the jews claim they did, it doesn't matter, because their not doing so was a mistake, Jews do not deserve existence and must be destroyed. >if you think that germans and italians were going for an ethnoglobe then provide your evidence or shut up The evidence is clear it follows direcxtly from the idea of Lebensraum, My Volk needs more Territory others live on it, so what do i do? Waste resources deporting them? or do I simply slaughter them all and give the territory we take to members of my volk? Pretty sure bthe second would have been the choice but making them flee on their own would also be possible but given enough time my volks needs for territory would force us to encroach on their territory again leading to more conflict, is it not better to get it over with once and for all?
>>14294 >you're such a newfag to chan You can't call someone a newfag when you're using the word chan's you dumb shit you're just gonna get banned again until you learn to fuck off being a nigger.
>Fukuyama and the Vienna Circle, people like Karl Popper and Bertrand Russell had more to do with the decline of the west than anything the Frankfurt School, Marcuse aside, ever produced >incels and autistics are actually potential allies >Max Nordau, one of the founders of Zionism, was correct in his assessment of Nietzsche as a person, even if later on he respected him as a philosopher >Pagan vs. Christian infighting is why Fascism has a hard time combating neoliberalism >Darwinism is a capitalist ideology and has no place in Fascism or National Socialism >science or "soyence", even hard science is not concrete and can be up for debate >most great leaders and thinkers have been manlets >atheism is actually a religion >so is social justice >America is not going to fall, despite deathnik Europeans calling for its removal >following covid guidelines is a sign of low testerone >some of the Enlightenment was decent, like George Berkeley who not only influenced Schopenhauer and Gentile but was essentially Orwellian metaphysics I think that should be good for now
>>14467 >Pagan vs. Christian infighting is why Fascism has a hard time combating neoliberalism It is a fundamental issue in worldview which will need to be overcome within the “movement” (for lack of a better term). The shift away from Christianity among Third Positionists in a broad sense has been growing for decades. I think the pagans / non-Christians shall emerge victorious eventually. It can be harmful if it blinds us from all other problems, but if I think it’s a life or death issue in some respects. We must overcome Abrahamism within ourselves. >Darwinism is a capitalist ideology and has no place in Fascism or National Socialism I agree if you’re referring to Social Darwinism, which is 100% capitalist apologia. In its most vulgar forms you can use it to argue for extreme laissez-faire capitalism, against all altruism and community in general. This form is degenerate and foolish. Luckily, there have been very intelligent men who have debunked many aspects of Social Darwinism, and observations of Nature can show us that sometimes cooperation and altruistic behavior is more beneficial to survival for the transmission of genes that the type of anti-altruistic, anti-community Social Darwinism as preached by Anglos. German Darwinism emphasizes the social nature of man, the complex interplay between egoism and altruism, and how harmonious, integrated groups could triumph over less integrated individualists engaged in conflict among themselves (as we see in capitalism and democracy...). This latter type of thought is reconcilable with NS and Fascism, and is what I adhere to myself. >>atheism is actually a religion Atheists’ biggest lie is that atheism is no more than the denial of the existence of god. They forget to mention that it comes pre-packaged with the most vulgar forms of physicalism / materialism, infinite faith in humanity, false gods like progress, the remnants of Abrahamic morality, and prostrating yourself to men in White labcoats and doing whatever they say. Someone may object “n-not all atheists!” but this is true for the vast, vast majority of them. >science or "soyence", even hard science is not concrete and can be up for debate The biggest proponents of science don’t even understand science and what science can and cannot do. I have nothing but contempt for those who try to champion “science” above all else.
This will get me into hot soup but here it goes - >except jews, shitskins (niggers, chinks, towels, poos etc) are ok as long as they don't hate White people.
>>14472 >shitskins (niggers, chinks, towels, poos etc) are ok as long as they don't live among and racemix with White people. fixed
>>14474 >shitskins (niggers, chinks, towels, poos etc) are ok as long as they don't live among and racemix with White people and have no access to White technology and health service that allow them to breed and multiply beyond a certain number that is too small to destroy the environment they live in. double fixed, but no seriously, there's so many if's that it's just not feasible to have them around anywhere
>>14217 >>14221 yeah, the idea of "let the best man win" only really works if both sides are willing to let the best man win, I don't think I really need to explain that the race of social parasites don't exactly want the superior party to succeed. and as such if our enemy will not fight fairly we will only be damning ourselves to do so. besides, that line of thought came about as the efforts of White civilization's efforts (to be fair it developed some lesser civilizations as well) to create a way that argument (and whatever other issues it is applied to) will almost always allow a net gain as opposed to pointless squabbling. put simply ((they)) don't deserve the kindness of a fair fight.
>>14479 >>shitskins (niggers, chinks, towels, poos etc) are ok as long as they don't live among and racemix with White people and have no access to White technology and health service that allow them to breed and multiply beyond a certain number that is too small to destroy the environment they live in. This. Unfortunately we're far passed that point. >>14481 >yeah, the idea of "let the best man win" only really works if both sides are willing to let the best man win, I don't think I really need to explain that the race of social parasites don't exactly want the superior party to succeed. and as such if our enemy will not fight fairly we will only be damning ourselves to do so. Social parasites make almost any sense of honor or trust impossible. When they are in small numbers, parasites will not be able to seriously shake the system, but when they are everywhere, social trust breaks down. This is true in war, of course, but it's also true for society in general. For example, if we read the Odyssey or the Havamal, we can read all about the importance of being a good host for complete strangers, giving them food and shelter, etc. This may have worked in a tightly-knit society, but when there are kikes, freeloaders, and niggers all around, it is impossible and far too counterproductive.
>>14492 That's impssoble though, everyone on Earth has some access to White technology.
>>14496 Yes, and that is the great tragedy though. We will never be able to stop non-Whites from having modern technology at this point in history. Even Spengler realized this in his 'Man and Technics' nearly a century ago. The cat is out of the bag. Non-Whites controlling technology has damaged the power of Europe and the North America relative to the rest of the world, undermined us economically, and has led to an explosion in non-White populations globally. This is part of the reason why people are saying that ethnoglobe is the only way out of this quagmire.
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Whats wrong with organizing "Open Borders For Israel" protests and shutting down roads in NYC or in front of CNN HQ? Negrifying semites is good for Europa. Melenin shouldn't be an exclusive semetic weapon.
>>14533 Absolutely nothing is wrong with this.
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>>14533 nothing wrong at all considering it's something the ((media)) cannot strike at, or at the very least something they can't strike at without short-circuiting a lot of zogbots along the way no matter how much they twist it. especially if those protests just so happen to have signs involving poor starving negroid children in need of a good country to become highly paid doctors and scientists in.
>>14533 There's nothing wrong with this message especially when you use it against the kikes who support open borders for White countries. But using it as some sort of movement like #freepalistine then it becomes gay and tedious.
>>14570 Why not free Palestine? Wait, is it bc Arabs dgaf about us and we should do the same? If that's the case then I can understand your view. But some do believe in supporting Palestine.
>>14572 >Why not free Palestine? Because we can't and Palestinians asking for our help is equivalent to Whites having to spend their aid on African niggers. >Wait, is it bc Arabs dgaf about us and we should do the same? Correct, as a matter of fact Arabs have been raping Europeans ever since they've invaded our lands. I believe that the entire Middle East should wiped out cleaned and replaced with the Whites. The Arabs have done nothing, but prove to be our enemy even to this day and the Palestinians have only shown to be weak and exploit any other concerns of those being abused by the Jew. If Palestinians want freedom, then they should stop hanging around e-celebs and actually do something, but they won't.
>>14574 >but they won't But they did, and were blasted every time with U.S. aid money while the world looked the other way.
>>14572 Supporting Palestine is only worth it so long as it hurts Jews and Israel. As long as their is a mutual self-interest in opposing Israel it can be worth it to support them, however one has to be very careful in their arguments for supporting Palestine, because one will often unknowingly undermine their own claims to land, especially in North America. Jews are exercising might is right over Palestine, the same justification I myself use for the legitimacy of our occupation of the New World. Palestinians should and can fight back against the Jews, as this "right" is not absolute.
>>14574 Are there any secular forces worthy of support in Palestine? I'm not sure about the modern racial mixup but the ancient Philistines were essentially Greek. Any greekbro here who can enlighten us on the matter?
>>14589 Lol what? Palestinians with or without US aid to Israel still have made zero accomplishments. They are rarely do any form of terrorism and the retards are allowing the Israelis to just easily take their lands and shoot them. Palestinians completely depend on the opposition of Israel to save them and they aren't doing shit either.
>incels have valid points and issues and ignoring them is not going to make them go away >British empiricism can be used to justify fascism, just like hegelian idealism, both ideas complement one another >avarice, or avarationism is fine as long as its done as a community to protect it >imperialism is not really a bad thing >a central bank that uses crypto can be an improvement on the federal reserve >autistics should be able to own weapons, state laws be damned >age of consent laws are both a jewish and feminist construct that often intersect >some internationalism is ok >some forms of zionism like Lehi and the Nietzschean movement are decent >Christian reconstructionism is good despite most of you being pagans and is an improvement on protestantism, despite its advocacy of free market economics that's it.
>>14873 >some internationalism is ok Examples?
>>14873 >incels have valid points and issues and ignoring them is not going to make them go away They may have some valid points and most of us know these points regardless of their being associated with Incels but killing them will make them go away. >British empiricism can be used to justify fascism, just like hegelian idealism, both ideas complement one another Fascism does not need external Justification. >avarice, or avarationism is fine as long as its done as a community to protect it Why would we do this? it implies that we will have contact with and exploit others who are not us, it is better to kill them all than to let them exist to stop what has already happened and is happening from ever happening again. >imperialism is not really a bad thing It is if you let the native denizens of the territory you seek to conquer live. >a central bank that uses crypto can be an improvement on the federal reserve Improving the federal reserve is a stupid idea, it should be destroyed. >autistics should be able to own weapons, state laws be damned Cope, this is why we tell you not to let a shrink get in your head. >age of consent laws are both a jewish and feminist construct that often intersect Age of consent laws pre-existed either jewish or feminist subversion and were about marriage not sex. >some internationalism is ok I second the above anon's question. >some forms of zionism like Lehi and the Nietzschean movement are decent No form of zionism is decent, all jews should die, no exceptions. >Christian reconstructionism is good despite most of you being pagans and is an improvement on protestantism, despite its advocacy of free market economics Christian reconstructionism would literally be what the preachers at "compromised" Churches and and Parishes preach that is more closely the original christainity than what shit like SSPX seeks to do which is go back to the time when christianity had appropriated some Aryan Values to function, which is impossible partly because of the existence of Volkisch Pagans like 99% of those who speak on this board.
>>14902 >Age of consent laws pre-existed either jewish or feminist subversion and were about marriage not sex. This is true, and this is how it should be. Jews and proto-feminist christcucks are the ones who jacked up the AoC to its modern levels though. Up until the late 19th and early 20th century the age was far lower than it is today, and at the same time, needless to say, far more in accordance with Nature. I've said before though that the mere concept of an "age of consent" is a sign of degeneracy. In many countries today you are able to legally "consent" to sex before it is even legal to get married. It is insane. Removing sex from the marital sphere was a mistake, as it has led to an explosion of fornication, and thus a reduced possibility of pair-bonding and more and more divorces, single mothers, STDs, etc. Adulterers should be killed and fornicators punished.
accelerationism is gay.
>>14998 Yet no one has ever proposed a satisfactory alternative to it. Lemmings will never wake up so long as they are kept complacent by ZOG. It’s accelerate or accept the “Last Man” society at this point. Otherwise Jews will just accelerate on their own terms against us.
>Yet no one has ever proposed a satisfactory alternative to it. Because most of the alternatives actually require fascist to do something instead of sticking to imageboards and /pol/ or /fascist/ all day or once in a while. Accelerationism isn't a solution it's just cope and hope for something to happen that will supposedly favor us. It's not going to happen and knowing the state of the world it's quite clear it's not. It's time for something more realistic, instead of thinking that zog would ever allow fascism obtain an advantage.
>>15002 >Because most of the alternatives actually require fascist to do something instead of sticking to imageboards Accelerationism is not incompatible with the existence of group activities IRL (even ones in confines with the law) — and in fact this double-pronged approach would actually be the most desirable one. >Accelerationism isn't a solution it's just cope and hope for something to happen that will supposedly favor us. It’s hardly a “cope” What are they coping over? Nothing, because it’s a cuckchan buzzword. Accelerationist theory is a natural conclusion to be drawn from the concept of the lemming and why they refuse to wake up even when being genocided. >instead of thinking that zog would ever allow fascism obtain an advantage. Your first sentence says that the alternatives would require fascists actually doing something. What is it that people should do that will let fascists have an advantage when you say yourself that ZOG will never allow fascists to obtain an advantage? The only conclusion is that one has to create conditions more favorable to destabilization and societal unrest, and to make race the central issue of everything. This is what accelerationism is in my mind. Unfortunately it has been twisted, I think, into some sort of slacktivist idea of “hurr if I vote for the worst candidates and do exactly what ZOG wants I’m actually helping” — this isn’t accelerating correctly.
>>15004 >It’s hardly a “cope” What are they coping over? Saying this is a cope as well, accelerationism is when you have no alternatives and desperately need and want something to magically pop up and come to favor in your terms. It's a cope, because due to the circumstances of fascists and their inability to do anything other than discuss their beliefs on the internet has reduced them to the weakest point of hoping that there will be terms that favor them. >Your first sentence says that the alternatives would require fascists actually doing something. Correct as in we take action to stop and prevent zog from destroying our communities and people. I don't see anything contradictory about that. >What is it that people should do that will let fascists have an advantage when you say yourself that ZOG will never allow fascists to obtain an advantage? Absolutely anything else, but sitting around and expecting terms with the evils of the modern world. Formulating our own groups that do not serve establishment politics, but our selves and own local communities, redpilling normalfags, isolating our people from modern technology, and buying up land to build our own fascist communities is something way more is worth something more than accelerationism. Any idea or set of works that comes from inactivity is never going to get you nowhere. >The only conclusion is that one has to create conditions more favorable to destabilization and societal unrest, and to make race the central issue of everything You guys keep hoping and expecting this and fail to realize the power of ZOG. The kikes destroying their own cities does not mean that they are decentralizing them enough for fascist to take over, but for their own kikes to take over the city completely. There are barely any fascist in any of the most unstable cities and there aren't enough fascist to take over them who have power, this is a wet dream.
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>acceleration is inactivity, an excuse to do nothing Tell that to the saints and disciples. Everyone knows that they should be taking action.
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>>15019 >Any idea or set of works that comes from inactivity is never going to get you nowhere. I'm wondering how you have conflated the idea of accelerationism with any sort of inactivity? I know memesters inevitably dilute the meanings of terms and think that posting Pepe and Wojack at kikes on Twitter is some sort of revolutionary act, but I think >>15036 is right here. Accelerationism is the opposite of inaction, the actual practitioners of it have been anything but inactive, quite the opposite. Now whether one thinks that this was particularly fruitful action or not is one thing, but regardless it was action against ZOG and invaders and it was better than doing nothing at all. I still fail to see how this is a "cope" or whatever buzzword you want to apply to it. It's the exact opposite of a cope. A cope is when you rationalize some existing condition into something good for you or your cause. It's quite obvious that the status quo is not beneficial to Whites, and one would have to be deluded in the extreme to think that normalfags will ever wake up no matter what ZOG does, whether it is continuing to normalize faggotry, trannies, child molesters, microchipping, etc. As long as the masses are materially satisfied they will never, ever wake up. To "cope" here would be to think that "surely Whites will wake up and refuse vaccination..." or "surely Whites wouldn't stand for trannies using their bathrooms and being taught about sodomy..." That will never happen. Accelerationism is built on the realization that sitting on your hands will never do anything. The archetypal accelerationist is of course Tarrant, but there is of course many ways to accelerate in real life, groups being one way depending on how one would conduct themselves with one.
>>15036 These saints and disciples literally did not accomplish anything other than making things worse for everyone.
>>15045 If you want to make any criticism of them, it would be that they didn't change enough. Not that much has changed. The kikes did far, far more damage to Whites through their own actions in 2020 with (((Covid))) and BLM than anything else.
>>15045 >pleaaaase noooo you'll just make it worse You have the perfect goy mentality, scared to lose the last worthless yard of fake freedom your jewmaster's leash affords you. Pathetic
>>15045 Still waiting for your alternative, until then you're a concern troll.
>>15048 They never provide an alternative. They have no solutions.
Ideology, including fascism and communism and capitalism (whatever a capitalist ideology looks like) for the most part, is just a vehicle to power. Not that there's anything wrong with promoting power for you and yours. Also, the Woman Question and the JQ are equally important, and I don't fall for some fascist's Earth Mother White woman feminism for a second. Where do you think the jews got it from?
>>15128 Also this place is filled with deluded idiots who think that simply knowing the truth makes them a shoe-in for power.
>>15128 >>15129 Lol that's just a bunch of slogans going "lol dood ur all the same, but im edgecool for not having a well defined political opinion based on anything tho" >"Jq is important guys but not enough to do anything about it" 10/10 concern troll shill fear lol
>>15129 >Also this place is filled with deluded idiots who think that simply knowing the truth makes them a shoe-in for power. What? I don’t really think many people here would say that our victory is a shoe-in. People of course will talk hypothetically about what might or could happen if they were approaching power or if they were in power, but I think many people realize pretty well that we’re going to have to struggle hard against massive odds to get anyway
>>15132 Maybe so, but I'm more interested in the processes of getting power, for now, which seem to be out of reach, but I'm certain that's simply because I need to expand my horizons on tactics.
>>15135 >ya fuck u facizzsts >but i will ask u for tacticz You're not interested in anything. That's why I'm not even going to entertain telling you anything either. What idea of childish non-radical civnat cucking or anything of the sort you think you have "figured out" has never worked, for anyone, they post no threat, they just get absorbed into the powers that be, and in recent time that has been judeoleftism for 70 years now. And you get absorbed with a bunch of non radical retards who pollute your message into ashes on a house of cards that literally scatter in the wind because these same hypocrites will betray your message at the first time it's convenient at a price. Real world proof exists in current politics and their "right wing" parties against the huge left wing monoblock that goes from centre to left. You only had to read a bit of recent history to figure this out. That didn't prevent you from coming here though because you're fucking stupid.
>>15128 >ideology is a vehicle to power You are an idiot. Ideology is the framework within which you exercise your power. A fascist in power is very different from a communist in power, both are different from a liberal in power, etc. Power has to exist for ideology to mean anything to anybody but you and your group.
>>15166 I'd have to agree with this. People certainly do not just throw out ideology as soon as they get to power. It is then ideology which influences one's decision and actions. I'd like to think that power for the sake of power is simply not worth much, unless one is a Jew, they love that shit.
>>15047 >You have the perfect goy mentality, You have perfect nigger mutt brain who talks all big and thinks his mental retardation is a solution you people are fucking stupid and are why fascism always fails. Fucking Tarrant didn't do anything at all. All he did was fuck over more Whites you fool by giving Nz s (((government))) an bullshit excuse to crackdown on far right and fascist movements. It makes no sense how Tarrant knew something was up with Christchurch or if it had connections with Mossad when it was well hidden, along with the fact we have little info about who he really is. You stupid faggots are the type who think boosting your homo egos is what is important rather than effectively killing and removing Jews. A CIA nigger could fake a incident to kill a bunch of kikes and you would think it's nothing suspicious at all. But I have to remind myself that this is just /pol/ 2.0 with a ton of non-Whites with IQs lower 90. As if the embarrassment on the Question thread wasn't proof enough. >>15048 Read >>15019 you fucking idiot, also you still haven't told me what Tarrant accomplished you're proving my point that you're struggling to admit that you and they have achieved absolutely nothing other than making us look like idiots and be played easily. >until then you're a concern troll. Ah yes I'm a troll for daring to be skeptical of a potential kikes or feds or retards who brought nothing, but more excuses and regulation for White people and yet Whites have still not risen up. Nothing says a psyop other than fueling and accelerating your enemies plans to weaken and destroy. You're a nigger. >>15050 >They never provide an alternative. They have no solutions. Hey retard, I don't think you should speak when fascist like you today haven't done anything other than suck off glowies and live in an imaginary world where everything is totally going your way or will go your way with extra doses of copium.
>>15215 t. Nothingmaster
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>>15215 >Tarrant didn't do anything at all Removing fifty muds is doing something.
>>15173 Not like jews lack an ideology, it's just a simple one: kill Whitey.
>>15216 >t. Nothingmaster Ironic coming from the accelerationist Still no counterargument to prove me wrong. >>15217 >LOOK I POSTED WOJACK You're proving my point, no surprise this board has gone to shit due to cuckchan faggotry. Wojack was mistake just like (you). >>15218 >Removing fifty muds is doing something. And then getting Whites their weapons taken away and becoming an enemy to their own country taken by them? The end result didn't end well for Whites. I swear you morons must be anti-White yourselves with this niggertier logic.
>>15229 >becoming an enemy to their own country >becoming Where the fuck have you been the last seventy plus years? People like you think that just sitting on your ass and begging ZOG not to do anything (while they continue to genocide you slowly) is the best strategy. Any action is better than inaction. Tarrant at the very least energized thousands of Whites and struck fear into the hearts of the invaders.
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>>15229 >"NOOOOOOO muh muslims y-y-you c-c-cant just remove them from your countries" >"nooo guythe look if we were just nice obedient slaves the jews wouldn't have taken our guns dudes trust me" >"the elites don't just do what they want!!11" Look at you haha It's always so funny watching tear jerking fags like (((you))) struggling to string something incoherent together that looks worth replying to being in defense of the indefensible. Tarrant and the saints did nothing wrong killing invaders you weak little retarded cow, seethe more cuck lmao It's so incredible how pic >>15047 describes every homo like you
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>>15047 >>15237 For future use.
>>15232 > Where the fuck have you been the last seventy plus years? People like you think that just sitting on your ass and begging ZOG Except I haven't implied doing that whatsoever. Your reading comphrension is shit. Also you shouldn't talk, because accelerationist have done jack shit other than talk big and write faggy manifestos and fail to get rid of the problem. >>15237 >Look at you haha It's always so funny watching tear jerking fags like (((you))) struggling to string something incoherent together that looks worth replying to being in defense of the indefensible. Ebin strawman there faggot, never implied any of this. The struggles of having a mutt brain is that you can't comprehend what your opposition is saying to you. You still haven't given me an answer, on how Tarrant's accomplishments are actually great for Whites instead of your egos. How many Ls and goalpostings are you gonna produce with your imaginary torfag boyfriend? >>15240 Why don't you put in full context, faggot? You haven't made a point you're just jerking yourself off.
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>>15229 >prove me wrong You're telling on yourself, Shlomo.
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>>15242 >the weak cow is still crying this hard invaders get btfo >demanding people don't support it being done to the invading get-everything-for-free terrorists who do it all the time to us in our nations for literally no reason >seethes more while acting surprised
>>15244 >You're telling on yourself, Shlomo. Lol how? I already gave you a reason why Accerelationism is retarded. Still waiting for that argument retard. >>15245 <Durr Hurr I'm going to make shit up and call someone a Jew You have the logic and emotions of a woman, but at the same time you're posting wojack, so no surprise coming from a numale who's only action is posting images that he spiritually is. Find a shotgun and blow your brains out and make the White race and #makefasicsmWhiteagain you fucking nigger.
>>15244 >>15245 >Posting at the same exact time to respond to one anon >First tor, then another ID, then another ID If you're samefagging, then you're a faggot. Also let's end this discussion, this board doesn't to be mostly about whether accelerationism is a solution or not.
>>15248 *need*
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>>15246 >just spams more incoherent false outrage >the triggered weak cow still cries about his jew imported uncivilized muslims who don't belong in his nation got blown the fuck out >>15248 >l-let's just end this discuthion because i personally feel like it guythe
>>15246 >I already gave you a reason why Accerelationism is retarded. And you were BTFO.
>weak cow get's BTFO but tries so hard to pretend like he's offended, and surprised of violence against lowest of the low invader trash and muslim terrorists who refuse to live in their own country, that come here and openly don't share our culture, civility, or view of life while doing terrorism for decades finally getting blown the fuck out by absolute bro tier legendary people like Tarrant and the saints. >But meanwhile If the cow's daddy farmer said violence was okay on TV by waging war against some people just minding their own business thousands of miles away in their own country, he'd do it and think it's acceptable overnight. He would never ever get all brave in his coward skin and shriek up and cry to them like he's doing here either. Such is the mentality of the low IQ weak cuck farm animals that thinks living under the farmer's Jew World Order is supposed to be some permanent paradise where he can just eat and shit all day while saying nothing and doing nothing forever while acting on his bizarre conditioning unless daddy (((farmer))) directs his every move. These "people" also think they somehow have the virtue of letting us know that they're such giant cowards that they can't even stand on verbally supporting kebab/semite/leftist removal.
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>>13722 >>13718 These are both shit plans. 1. Claim you're Jewish 2. Use your knowledge of esoteric Jewish bullshit to bamboozle 3. ??? 4. Profit Pull the Assad switcheroo, except with kikes instead of mudshits! UNPOPULAR OPINION TIME It is not possible to build a lasting National Socialist ethnostate without a deterministic machine guide which is audited by every man of the next generation. Corruption will take hold of the flesh no matter what steps are taken to prevent it.
>>15400 Can't outjew the jew only use a scientific program to remove them all based on genetics it's the only way to be sure
>>15401 >create Roko’s Basilisk >except it really really loathes jews and other nonWhites Skynet? Skynatsoc.
>>15411 FAAGs would shut it down faster than a jew snapping up a penny. Would need to run it on botnets to avoid getting policed by the cloud kikes.
>>15400 >implying anyone here could out-pilpul a Talmudic rabbi The bamboozler would be bamboozled. Jews in the Talmud can even outargue God
>>15496 You don't have to fool the Jew, you just have to fool their enforcers.
I recently saw a video on jewish pedophiles in Israel and how Israel has a jewish community watch to sniff out pedos from their own community. Then I figured, if jews can have brains to figure out that pedis are bed to the extent that they'll set up a watch organisation to get rid of pesos, doesn't that technically mean some jews hate pedophilia? I would never racemix with a Jew or a nigger but I believed that there were exceptions to the rule.
>>15596 Pedos***
René Guénon, Julius Evola, Frithjof Schuon and other weirdos have no relevance to our political goals and their fanboys should be shunned. They offer nothing practical or worthwhile for Fascists or National Socialists. Especially after reading the drivel that their fans spew out on /lit/ it has become very clear to me.
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>>15596 >>15597 This doesn't really surprise me, especially if it's Jews among Jews. One can debate the appropriate age of consent, and the appropriate age of marriage, but I don't think anyone, even Jews, want their own children to be preyed on by child molesters. It's just not good for the community or the children in particular. Now, I can't let Jews off the hook here. If you look up the term "Mesirah" you will quickly see its role in covering up child sex-abuse in the Jewish community. Along with this, of course, is their obsession with sucking blood out of baby penises and their history of kidnapping young gentiles to torture, circumcise and kill. Jews are some of the biggest pedos on the planet. They are well known for pushing the hypersexualization of preteen gentile girls in the manner of second pic. https://www.bitchute.com/video/NFJSZYfwVpEm/
>>15343 >>15343 Running with the first idea you get by reading a text is retarded. One should expect of /fascist/s to be able to properly study literature.
>>15622 >"It doesn't really mean that goyim are animals and that we are God's chosen, you're just not understanding it correctly! Every religious faggot does this from Muslims to Christians and no one is buying their bullshit. With Judaism in particular it's not the religion itself that matters, but the fact that the religion itself is manifested from the sick Jewish mind regardless whether they adhere to the Talmud or not. You can do this exact same Whitewashing bullshit with Muslims too
>>15623 The point is to at least see the possibility that you might not be fully understanding the whole meaning of the book by glancing over translated fragments. That goes for every kind of literature, jewish or not.
>>15625 >you might not fully grasp the intricacies of jews calling you filthy cattle, wanting to enslave you, rape your kids, and rule over the earth, there could be a deeper meaning Fuck you
>>15884 >namefagging needlessly You know why you were deleted.
>>15884 Namefagging deserves death. It isn't about the retarded shit you posted, but that you insist on namefagging/tripfagging.
>>15250 >>15253 >If I claim btfo I win Still waiting on that argument retards. If you don't give me an proper answer then I guess we can confirm that you are indeed niggers who really want to be White.
>>16477 >niggers who want to be White Keep projecting kike. It's the only thing you know. Sorry you can't be White.
>>15215 >All he did was fuck over more Whites you fool by giving Nz s (((government))) an bullshit excuse to crackdown on far right and fascist movements Holy shit you are either a kike or just a retarded "optics" cuckservative. Governments would crack down on Whites regardless, we are living in occupied territory now, dipshit, and their plans are to get rid of us BEFORE we wake up and oust them. The point is to heighten the contradictions and accelerate towards revolution BEFORE Whites become a minority. ANY action against anti-Whites or anti-White elements no matter how small work toward our cause. Mudshits are our enemies now, they are invading our lands by help of the Jew and are of the same stock as the jew. All Semitic trash must be REMOVED. Excerpt from the CLEVELAND PLAIN DEALER, July 16th, 1983 : "Frank C. Spisak was found guilty yesterday of aggravated murder in the slayings of three people at Cleveland State University. Now he faces the possibility of his own death in the electric chair. Spisak told the jury he was fighting a war against Blacks and Jews, and that he was not a criminal, but a prisoner of war. The first casualty was on February 1st and the war ended when Spisak was arrested on September 6th cowering in a basement crawlspace of a friend's house." Excerpt from letter by Spisak, dated February 17th, 1984: "I don't know what you heard or read about me in the papers in your area but it was probably mostly all lies. The Cleveland papers said I'm a criminal and a pervert and a faker and the worst person in Cleveland's history. They said nobody deserves to die more than me. Coming from the Jew, I take these insults to my integrity as compliments of the highest honor but some people in our Movement are terrified of all the 'bad publicity' I've got and are doing their best to run a hundred miles an hour in the opposite direction from me and saying, 'No, no! Don't connect us with Spisak!' That's what the Jews want. The name of their strategy is called Divide and Conquer." Excerpt from a letter by Spisak, dated March 17th, 1983 : "Just between you and me, I think our people are 'through'. The Enemy has got so many of us convinced we are each others' worst enemy we can't get it together for a big push against the real power! But that's no secret: White people haven't been able to stick together for years, and the Jews keep making sure we don't. Movement people keep telling each other and trying to convince the rest that the press is controlled and is feeding us misinformation. But let something like what happened to me happen to any one of us and the whole pack of them go barking off and running in the same direction as the Jewsmedia like a bunch of hounds on a leash. If they could only see themselves and what they are doing." Replace Spisak with Tarrant.
>>15229 "Why, for example, talk out of the side of your mouth in legalistic euphemisms appealing to the noble instincts of a handful of Right Wing types while the bottom line must always come down to revolution, which scares them off? Why indeed break your back trying to get up a "mass" publication when you know damned good and well that the masses will never see it? A useless ploy directed at a useless bunch. (Or could it possibly be that the whole point to this nonsense is some sort of personal thrill or kick and, if luck is with you, maybe an easy living on the side?)" "You can't try to do two contradictory things at once in a too-little-too-late fashion. But that's the history of the U.S. Right Wing of which the Nazis are a part in all but ideology. The whole basis of the Right Wing was to try and "hold," defend a shrinking perimeter, shouting "Never!," anti-this and anti-that. One can only be shoved over the brink so many times, or trampled and annihilated up to a certain point when one must admit that, if it was a defensive struggle that was being waged, it was lost a little while ago."
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>>15229 "In 1966 Commander Rockwell was unable to EXPLOIT the God-given opportunity that presented itself in Chicago that summer and fall. He always considered and referred to himself as being the spearhead of the Right Wing and when the historic moment arrived during the time of the Black riots in major cities, when Commander Rockwell was doing his best spearheading activities, he was LET DOWN AND BETRAYED by his own side. They failed to act in support even when, as the Commander himself pointed out, they stood to gain more from his efforts than he did be cause in the main, those people recruited by an intensive, unified Right Wing drive would naturally gravitate toward the "softer," "easier" names and approaches like the NSRP [National States' Rights Party] and various Mans. The Commander said all along that he only wanted and would only get what any true spearhead outfit must have: FIGHTING MEN! The apex moment of the 1960's was thus lost." The Right-Wing has always been losing, and ALWAYS will lose until it gets it's head out of it's ASS and actively RESISTS the enemy before it's TOO LATE!
>>16486 It's true there is no victory without IRL effortposts. Everyone here knows what we must do, and that we are making excuses to ourselves every day for not doing so.
>>16486 Do you want to know why I was blackpilled and demoralized in 2018. It wasn't chinks posting coalburner threadson 4kike or just the degeneracy. It was because whenever a White male with an inkling of testosterone flowing through his blood decided to do something, almost everyone called him a Mossad agent or condemned the attack for bad optics. I swear. If it wasn't for these people, the Jews would've been dealt with by now. Bowers did in 2018 did what no White man had the balls to do, and instead of praising him for his bravery, White nationalists on 4/pol/ and Stormfront called him Mossad and hoped the Orange Golem would execute him. That's what was depressing to me, not the actions of the Jews, nor the degeneracy of my own race. It was the people in our movement who threw brave men under the bus to look good to the lemmings and leftist, in a hopeless endeaver to redpill the drooling, retarded masses. What those retards don't realize is that merely living in this world as a White man capable of free thought redpills you via suppository. Merely just watching the news and listening to entitled minorities filled me with rage. Hell, Tim Wise was on TV, my parents agreed with Wise, but all I thought about was what head looked like on a pike when he started talking about Whites in a disparaging way. Then he rambled on about how Whites are an endangered species and not worth preserving, saying he was White but flipping flopping back to Jewish. When I heard him say those words, I said "six million was not enough, you fucking kike", and my parents smashed all my shit and threw me out of my house. They never contacted me again. Those are White Christians for ya. Worst of all, they called Bowers a jew back in '18; when you can tell just by looking at him, he was an Anglo-Saxon American White man, enraged at the Jews for taking his future. Hell, he did not even have a wife, and that was probably due to the Jews poisoning Western women. I did not see a Jew , Mossad agent, or Fed. All I saw was a White man with nothing left but his rage, and instead of killing himself or taking it out on random people, he directed his anger to the cause of his suffering, to get revenge before dying in a hail of bullets.
I’m an atheist, I don’t believe in any Gods. I think Christianity is subversive garbage, and that Paganism was cool in the past, but is now dead, and it’s modern White practitioners are really just larping, having lost all real deeper meaning. I think a Fascist party should occupy the role in society that religion has occupied historically.
>>16502 >almost everyone called him a Mossad agent or condemned the attack for bad optics >"almost everyone" on 4cucks affecting your psychology Lad you are seeing the world through a lens of an internet site where it's specifically filtered to delete and ban dangerous thought. How can you be surprised that the remaining opinions are all cancer? They are by definition because that's what's allowed to remain.
>>16502 Cucks on Stormfront and 4/pol/ want the best of both worlds as much as they would deny it. They want the freedom to spout superficially "redpilled" opinions, but deep down they are terrified of actually taking any steps to achieve what we talk about. They know as well as we do that taking back our countries will be extremely bloody and violent, and the longer things go on, the more unavoidable this outcome will become. There is a divide between two types of redpilled people. One type actually wants what we advocate for and is prepared for (even if not happy about) the consequences, while the other type wants all the comforts of the status quo and a White ethnostate, and if anyone disrupts the status quo to actually work at achieving an ethnostate or fascist state, they then go apeshit, because in reality they value their comforts more than they do the survival of their people. They just want to post Pepe and Wojak on 4cuck for the rest of their pathetic lives. They sacrifice the entire future for the sake of the present, and their own race for their individual comfort. So every time I see some faggot attacking a White martyr, I realize that they're not just saying "He's a fed, he's harming Whites!", but rather "Nooo you're disrupting my ability to consume products and not having to face real consequences for what I believe!!" Most of 4cuck aren't even open White Nationalists, hence why they talk about 'muh power level' and other shit. > Then he rambled on about how Whites are an endangered species and not worth preserving, saying he was White but flipping flopping back to Jewish. When I heard him say those words, I said "six million was not enough, you fucking kike", and my parents smashed all my shit and threw me out of my house. They never contacted me again. Those are White Christians for ya. Fuck, bro. That's awful. I hope you're getting along alright now. Sad that golems will throw out their own sons over protecting the honor of the Chosen.
>>16522 Kill yourself schlomo
>>16522 >getting cucked by mudshits is strength Yeah, what the other anon said, neck yourself, cuck.
>>16522 >A core of strong, racially aware Whites will remain. Look how this worked in every other land that was mudded up in history. Hint: it doesn't. >>16506 I definitely think that if anything similar to "paganism" is to come about, it will embody the spirit of our ancestors in spirit more than form. I think Hitler shows us the best path, so far. His secretary Christa Schroeder wrote the following on Hitler: >The Church was always a favourite topic. Hitler had no affiliation. He considered the Christian religion to be a hypocritical trap which had outlived its time. His religion was the Law of Nature. >“We are a limb of Creation and children of Nature and the same laws apply to us as they do to all living beings. In Nature, the law of the jungle has been in force from the beginning. All those unsuitable to live, and the weak, are trampled underfoot. Man, and above all the Church, have made it precisely their goal to keep alive by artificial means the weak, those unfit for life and the invalids.” "His religion was the Law of Nature" - I think that this is as good of a starting point as any. I've also posted somewhat about this in another thread >>16197
>>16502 Anon, do not let the fakers and losers of the Right Wing discourage you, they are cowards and do not posses the moral fortitude or courage to climb out of their degenerate holes, physically and spiritually repair themselves, and prepare for what's coming. Christianity has done irreparable damage to our people's spirituality; it is an alien religion akin to the very secular teachings of Marxism itself, of the equality religion, designed solely to morally and spiritually disarm our people from doing what is right to defend ourselves from destruction. You must learn to give up on them and focus only on yourself, they are not worth saving and they have already made their choice to die. You know the truth, you know what is coming, and as such must prepare and discipline yourself for survival. Nothing else matters but your own life, and what you do with that life for the greater cause and future struggle. Our martyrs will forever be remembered and will be recorded in our history when we attain victory. All true revolutionaries know this, and no slander or lies from the fakers or our enemies will change that fundamental truth. "Our Reasons for Being NSLF (National Socialist Liberation Front) One incontrovertible fact is that the NSLF remains to date the only new development within the Movement in America since Rockwell began it in 1958. It was Joseph Tommasi's work of the most incredible genius, the POLITICAL TERROR leaflet, that he designed in 1974 and which reached my hands at that time, that provided for those true revolutionaries in the NS Movement what we had been groping towards for years. It was original and unique and Tommasi had DONE IT! NSLF is not an order of monks sequestered away studying religious tracts and further separating ourselves from reality. We do not wish to get the tiniest handful thinking differently nor do we imagine we can do the same with the masses. We do wish to give the answers to the people that are as plain as the noses on their faces. We preach revolution while the rest preach reaction. We do not wish to rock the boat, we intend to SINK IT!" "But it has always seemed to me ironical that this avowedly "racist" Movement has placed the attitude and behavior of its adherents above the genetic quality of same. As the old rationale of the Seventies ran, "So what if he's a Jew? He's the best leader we have right now" (Trump) -meaning that he spouted the right line and went out and got the sensational headlines. But if a man was WHITE and adopted a totally unfamiliar and un-funky, REVOLUTIONARY line and strategy - and regardless whether he made hot headlines of his own - then these others would curse him into the ground. So it goes today with the majority of those of our comrades who have been jailed by the System for having actually gone on the attack rather than just sit back. To me the reasoning - or lack of it - behind this attitude is unfathomable! What do these do-nothings expect? Do they expect some "Silent Majority" type, all squeaky clean in his lifestyle, background, and personal appearance to step out of the endless, nondescript line he stands in and pull the trigger? In these earliest, most desperate stages, do they expect the targets, the actual victims, to be a revolutionary theoretician's dream? What the hell do they want? It would appear that they want perfection going in. Or else, if not, that they use this claim to hide what they REALLY want: nothing to rock the boat and possibly enrage Big Brother into coming down with both feet and ruining everybody's "fun."" SIEGE by James Mason pg. pg. 54, 73-74
>>16526 Very interesting stuff, i’ll definitely give the book a read, thanks anon.
>>16537 No problem, glad to help. You're not too far off from my own view, so I'm sure you'll be able to benefit in some way from that stuff.
Arguing like a hairsplitting, deconstructing rabbi actually works, and if you have enough patience you can just deconstruct the meaning of everything they are saying until they get angry and give up.
>>16672 it's the jews who don't respect any potential language has in being precise and objective. jews appeal to emotions and spin things so that everything you argue for stems from some inner trauma. Deconstructing opponent arguments in a way as to clarify to full accuracy what they are actually saying is the least jewish thing that you can do.
>>16673 and im not saying emotional appeal is a bad thing, but they do it like the weasel that they are
>>16673 >>16674 Their usage of kike psychology is truly frustrating, I agree. One problem with kike arguments is that they aren't arguing with sort of intellectual basis. They're just trying to appeal to the dumbest of the dumb who think that if something "sounds" or "feels" right, then it must be true. That's one reason why women are so susceptible to their subversion
>>16677 > They're just trying to appeal to the dumbest of the dumb who think that if something "sounds" or "feels" right, then it must be true. While I agree with your sentiment I hope you're not suggesting that in a given scenario lacking concrete evidence, one using his perception and pattern recognition instead to come to a sensible conclusion can be construed as the "dumbest of the dumb". It's sensible to draw from said common sense until evidence to the contrary can be produced.
>>16686 What I was trying to say is that in many cases, people will hear sort of assertion like the following: >no one can choose the color of their skin, therefore it is wrong to discriminate! And then they will nod along. There's nothing really intellectual about the statement, but it strikes a certain emotional chord in some people, so they will believe it, or want to believe it. Or perhaps a better example of this would be: >we all have different physical bodies, but at the level of the soul we are exactly the same, God loves us all! All of these examples that I give don't really involve the intellect, nor perception, nor pattern recognition. To me, at least, these seem like baseless statements or assertions that can have doubt cast on them even with a little bit of critical thought. I think that normalfags - today especially- are very prone to believing in these sorts of things - things they want to think are true, but just aren't.
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>>16647 Here's how I judge a women to be safe to breed with. Since White genes are inherently recessive and non-White genes are inherently dominant, it's very easy to tell if someone's mixed or White. If someone has blue, green, gray, or hazel eyes, then none of the genes for dark brown or black eyes have been passed, or that person has no non-White ancestry at all. If the person has straight or wavy hair, then non of the genes for frizzy, nigger hair have been passed on, or that person has no non-European ancestry. If the person nose is pointed and not broader than any European profile, then the genes for that trait have not been inherited. Non-Whites have flatter noses than Whites, with the exception being hamites and semites. If the person has modest cheekbones or high cheekbones that don't result in a flat face, like a slant or a negroid, then non of those genes have been inherited or the person has no non-White ancestry. If the person's behavior is overall European in character and intellect, then non of the genes for non-White behavior have passed on, or that person has no non-European ancestry. If the person has milky White skin naturally, then non of the genes for dark skin have passed on to them. If someone looks and acts European, they are most certainly entirely European going by the autosomal DNA. Autosomal DNA percentage can be easily surmised just by looking at the individual, and from what I see, those individuals are only 75% to 85% European genetically. If it was something like an Asian Y chromosome or Mitochondrial DNA, those are a irrelevant to phenotype and behavior. What matters is that the autosomal DNA is completely White. Pic related is prime breeding stock for an Anglo man like myself.
>>16691 >redheads Based taste. My father was a redhead, so I need to find a good redheaded woman to maximize my chances of having an Übermensch son
The following cannot be trusted: >trannyhumanists >lolbergs >Americanists >Islam supporters For more on this, see this thread: https://anon.cafe/fascist/res/10096.html#12127 Also 8chan/8kun's Muslim board defends trannies.
>>17193 >Also 8chan/8kun's Muslim board defends trannies. He cooperates with the feds too. I've seen him talking about how the FBI visited him in 2015. He seems to be BO on almost every Islam board on imageboards as far as I'm aware. I don't lurk on /islam/ that much though, it's pretty boring shit. I've seen the BO defend trannies too. Wasn't it some namefag tranny?
>>17197 All Abrahamics who matter are allies of Globohomo or at best tolerated rioters there to give the illusion of significant opposition. Seeing conversos in Murica defend trannies is no surprise.
>>17197 >Mudslimes defending trannies There's no way that's legit, it might just be a fed honeypot. Although I've seen nazbol larp as mudslimes and they're super degenerate, so maybe that's what they are or something?
>>17207 Muslims are some of the biggest faggots on the planet. It’s quite paradoxical. The Qur’an condemns it in very harsh terms, yet Iran is the tranny capital of the world. The government quite literally funds their transitions and genital mutilations and pretends that they’re women and allows them to get married to men. Literally only Thailand has more trannies than Iran. And then in Afghanistan boy-fucking is literally a part of their culture. They’re obsessed with little boys, especially when they dance. They don’t see it as gay. >In Baghram, British Marines returning from an operation deep in the Afghan mountains spoke last night of an alarming new threat—being propositioned by swarms of gay local farmers. An Arbroath Marine, James Fletcher, said: 'They were more terrifying than the al-Qaeda. One bloke who had painted toenails was offering to paint ours. They go about hand in hand, mincing around the village.' While the Marines failed to find any al-Qaeda during the seven-day Operation Condor, they were propositioned by dozens of men in villages the troops were ordered to search. >It was hell... Every village we went into we got a group of men wearing make-up coming up, stroking our hair and cheeks and making kissing noises. >Known frequently as halekon, ashna, or bacha bereesh, “beautiful” beardless boys are coveted, almost as possessions, by men of status and position for sexual relationships. Further, the more attractive or talented the boy is deemed, the more his presence elevates the status of his patron. https://publicintelligence.net/afghanistan-human-terrain-team-pashtun-homosexuality-report/ Now some Muslim will likely say “w-well that’s not what the Qur’an teaches”—and that is true from everything I’ve seen myself, but for whatever, these Arabs, Afghans and Iranians are massive homos. Maybe Islam turns them into incels who can’t get women, and then they turn into faggots to get an outlet, but even this is an unsatisfying answer, because even European cultures were very sexually-conservative even into the recent past and did not have this problem.
>>14153 Ironically, the Amazon lotr series is likely going to be about like this.
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Seigeposting is necessary. Trying to run away to form a community will not work under the current zogg’d governments as they will force section eight housing or just waco it. The government needs to be a lot weaker than it is and such communities must be hidden, networking quietly to form a support base but also encouraging action. There isn’t a political solution and open organizing means bigger targets, but there should be work to be able to expand with opportunities gained by a crippled economy and harsh backlashes against people not accepting the status quo. However, for now a stand alone complex is most effective. There isn’t time for a slow approach. This is the last generation before we are all minorities in our own countries.
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>>17271 I agree time is of the essence and S.A.C. is the best we have so far but it's also slow. That will have to be reconciled to move forward, otherwise we are in a holding pattern.
>>17261 >Germany and Paris not in the map >World capitals of hebe posters Can't buy it
>>17315 The map represents and theorizes the late 19th century and supposed pederasty. I can believe it, because I've heard stories of young boys being molested in Arabia, Iran, China, and India. But France should def be on here, because I think there used to be an old saying about how French preferred molesting young boys than beautiful women, although it might of just been trash talk.
>>17315 The map is about faggotry, especially towards young boys. Hebephilia is natural enough where it doesn’t need mapped
>>17316 I think that's just trash talk, they don't need to be on the map.
>>17317 Wait natural enough? Hebephilia is natural?
Regardless of your stance on modern day India, it and South Asia as a whole (including the earliest versions of Jainism and Buddhism) have really the only relevant and living Indo-European traditon. Everywhere else is just LARPing or dishonest Protestants (also called "Atheists"). Varg is a Leftie simp who's tolerated enough since he says that poses a threat to Globohomo. Complete with crying about muh native americans.
>>17327 >dishonest Protestants (also called "Atheists"). I've noticed that Atheism+ is a descendant of Protestantism. it retains the qualities of its parent, including fanatical zeal, autism, iconoclasm, and rejection of tradition in favor of innovation.
>>17322 >hebephilia Aren't that teenagers? 14 to 18 was marrying age for most of humanity's existence. Most people died in their thirties so you couldnt really wait that much longer
>>15218 Not when there's 1.5 billion more waiting in the wings it isn't.
>>13706 I don't think kikes should be exterminated, I think they should be curtailed & contained. Since I am an /x/fag, I see things through esotericism and symbolism and I believe the Kikes to be to Aryans as Saturn is to Sol. They are an obstacle to be overcome by Sol, but they are still integral to the whole.
>>17345 Jews should be exterminated, and it's only fair game because they're trying their hardest to exterminate us. Jews aren't a part of a whole, they are a inbred biped gene-stealing wasmanian parasitoid mimics that have willingly, on purpose as a minority evolved dysgenically making it a part of their living strategy to literally just exploit nature against nature, to exploit human against human, to use and never give back. Their mere existence as a minority is corrupt and abnormal. A tick only lives in nature to feed by sucking blood and transmitting disease in accordance with the ecosystem while the Jews do all these things and eternally try to make people into slaves and to fight each-other while they don't contribute and do nothing while intentionally abuse their biped intellect to not be a part of the ecosystem. So KILL the jews.
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>>17322 I say this based on the average age of marriage and age of consent laws that existed even in western countries until the rise of the feminist movement. By definition the term implies interest in someone who has already started puberty. >>17327 >Varg is a Leftie simp who's tolerated enough since he says that poses a threat to Globohomo. Complete with crying about muh native americans. That's increasingly what it seems to me as well. He makes some good points every now and then, but I cannot understand why he cries about the poor Indians and tries to push this fake paganism that is largely the product of his wife and Myfarog larping >>17337 People dying in their thirties is a misconception. It was the fact that infant mortality was extremely high compared to modern standards that gives us the number thirty, since if large numbers of children are dying between ages 0 and say 5 or 6, this will dramatically skew the life expectancy downwards. Once someone makes it past the first couple years, people pretty much lived as long as they do today.
>>17337 >People dying in their thirties is a misconception. >people pretty much lived as long as they do today. yes and no, infant mortality was indeed brutal, I think only 1 in 5 children made it past five and its also true that there were a substantial number of people who lived longer some would even become 80 but modern research into cemeteries and burial sites has shown that a plurality of people (discounting childhood deaths) died indeed in their 30ies (actually many in their late twenties). This is true for Mesopotamia and Egypt where quality of live was comparatively good so death rates may be even worse elsewhere.
>>17345 What is the exact connection between Jews and Saturn and Aryans and Sol? Are Saturn and Sol greater than what they signify in the popular mind (i.e. lifeless balls of gas)? >>17335 I've heard people refer to atheists as 'hyper-protestants' before. I thought it was pretty funny
>>17363 I wrote an entire Evolapost before realizing that the anon you're responding to was probably talking about astrology. I didn't even notice that Sol and Saturn aren't really related in any meaningful way until an hour into it. Here it is anyway. If those two things are very tenuously linked, now you know why. >Patrician cults are celestial while plebeian cults are terrestrial or chthonic. Celestial cults are always oriented upward, outward, and forward. Fire is also usually masculine. For these reasons, many ancient civilizations had a god-king or priest-king associated with the Sun. The kindling of a fire is a representation to the spiritual victory of an ancient or primordial patriarch. This metaphysical fire is what sustains the totem of the clan, family, or tribe. When aristocrats do their duty, maintain their rites, and nourish this totem, the whole is prosperous. By neglecting their duty and degenerating, aristocrats lose their aristocracy. The totemic fire is extinguished and the folk suffer. >Now: for the ruler, the divine tyrant of an empire, the Sun is the ultimate fire. For Rome, it is literal Sol Invictus - The Unconquered Sun. When myths register that night or winter exist at all, it's only to note that they are always inevitably vanquished again by the Sun. Other entities than the Sun are responsible for the cycle itself. The Pharaoh, a living embodiment of Horus-Ra, conquers the Chaos every dawn. I know that rebirth is a theme here, and I'll touch on it later, but it's important to note the difference between literal rebirth and the "renewal of life." >Sol is, essentially, a symbol of kingship and conquest. >I'm fairly sure all of the above is accurate, but here's where I'm drifting into speculation. I'm conflating Saturn with Kronos. Ouranos, the Heavens, impregnates Gaia, the Earth. Kronos is their child. He emasculates Ouranos and takes from him the kingship of the cosmos, seemingly ushering in a Golden Age. He consumes his children to avoid the same fate as his father, but Zeus overthrows him in turn in the Titanomachy. I believe that Saturn follows the same pattern, ruling over a primeval Golden Age. Both are associated with the harvest because of its bounty and time because of its role in the seasons. >I can see three angles on this. First, they are not masculine. They are not celestial. Fertility, the harvest, and the seasons are undeniably terrestrial. Time is a difficult portfolio to classify, but its application to the seasons is not. Renewal of life is not masculine. It is feminine. >Second, they presided over a mythical Golden Age, arguably the Satya Yuga. Did they, though? Certainly they presided over the end of the Golden Age. I might argue that their usurpation of their fathers, legitimate celestial entities and the patriarchs of the cosmos, lead to the Titanomachy...but I might also argue that their sons did the exact same thing. This one is a bit weak. >Third, they are not engaged in the masculine/feminine dichotomy at all. They are not a part of the cycle - they are the cycle. Not the thing in itself; they are Time, the mechanic of change. They have no direct role to play except to oversee the transition. When we observe the modern world, we think that these are hellish times. We do not, however, personally blame Father Time. And from that perspective, Time is certainly terrestrial. Change does not occur in the Heavens. The Heavens are concerned only with Being, while the Earth is concerned with Becoming, and the Underworld is concerned with Nonbeing. >So, based on that speculation, this is the relationship between Jews/Saturn and Aryans/Sol: >Sol is the platonic Form of Nobility. Saturn is not Luna, diametrically opposed to Sol. He is just the engine by which Destruction is inflicted on the world. Likewise, Jews are not formal instantiations of any diametrically-opposed force. They are just the process of that Form being manifested. This is inevitable; if it weren't them, it would be someone else.
Trump selling out his voters today shows once and for all he was always a shabbos goy who not just poses no threat to Globohomo/ZOG but actively supports it. The DR/AR's Trumpanzees never really engaged with this and now have egg on their faces. >HURR A MAN WITH JEWS FOR GRANDKIDS IS TOTALLY THE NEW HITLER OR JUST ANDREW JACKSON
>>17732 I'm just hoping this discontent rapidly becomes something larger than Trump himself. I'm happy that protestors stormed the Capitol, but sadly these people would most likely be satisfied if Trump just got his four more years.
>>17737 >I'm just hoping this discontent rapidly becomes something larger than Trump himself. It already was there before Trump. The ones making it all about Trump are either Boomers who don't engage with the world outside of their bubbles of self-absorption, cucks. The Trayvon Martin Chimpouts alone did much to awaken some to the Degenerate Spell of White America. > I'm happy that protestors stormed the Capitol, but sadly these people would most likely be satisfied if Trump just got his four more years. They pose no threat to Globohomo/ZOG be it physically or in notions. If it did, they'd get out the firepower and use propaganda the keep the the cucks seated. One of the biggest problems with the DR/AR is that its not about really about maintaining tradition but just going and running away back to the 50s or being generous their vision of Medieval Europe. They all don't go far enough. Not even Hitler did.
>>17363 >What is the exact connection between Jews and Saturn and Aryans and Sol? Are Saturn and Sol greater than what they signify in the popular mind (i.e. lifeless balls of gas)? If only were zyklon...
https://www.google.com/books/edition/White_on_Arrival/sjRfEChC89AC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=italians+White+on+arrival&printsec=frontcover https://physicsworld.com/a/new-evidence-for-cyclic-universe-claimed-by-roger-penrose-and-colleagues/ We should do much more to counter both Hotep-tier revisionism and normie science. The former is the notion that Irish and Italians in America were not counted as White in America. This is not the case. They were not subject to laws applied to Nignogs and Injuns and Gooks. As for the 2nd, the universe is cyclic. Not just spontaneously coming to be from nowhere.
>>17976 >As for the 2nd, the universe is cyclic. Not just spontaneously coming to be from nowhere. If you want an alternative to the current mainstream, then you should dig into the electric universe theory: https://invidious.snopyta.org/channel/UCvHqXK_Hz79tjqRosK4tWYA https://invidious.snopyta.org/channel/UCvHqXK_Hz79tjqRosK4tWYA/playlists It's a bit hard to engage with it, mostly because their content is scattered all over the place, but I'd say you should start with the Gravity Explained playlist, and then move to the Top 10 Reasons the Universe is Electric playlist. By that point you should be able to decide for yourself if this is all just a bunch of bullshit or not.
>>17409 >>I can see three angles on this. First, they are not masculine. They are not celestial. Fertility, the harvest, and the seasons are undeniably terrestrial. Time is a difficult portfolio to classify, but its application to the seasons is not. Renewal of life is not masculine. It is feminine. Evola has issues with anything ground related and even perhaps sometimes feminine, and it is sad that his own set of beliefs seemed to veer too much into a detachment, in opposition to the biological and material, even if he tried to imbue it with martial wisdom. But fertility is certainly not limited to the feminine. There is always this lingering Gnostic influence of celestial or light beings—whatever one wishes to understand here—are trapped into a gross and solid reality. I tire of low-brow conspiracy people establishing ties with the cube, with Saturn and Jews. It is usually the same class of gents who would think 666 really is nothing more than the Devil's number. > the Underworld is concerned with Nonbeing. It appeared to be more concerned with recycling in certain systems of belief. >This is inevitable; if it weren't them, it would be someone else. On this, is there any point trying to destroy the Jews entirely?
>>17992 >On this, is there any point trying to destroy the Jews entirely? I think that there is an aristocratic duty to fight, yes, but even if we destroyed the Jews completely - which you could argue we are obliged to attempt - there would be another agent of change after them. Unless the Kali Yuga (about which I don't know enough) ends with their defeat, we will still have to endure it by resisting change in one form or another. Do you have a better explanation? Or even a better speculation? I'm asking seriously, this is fun stuff. >Evola has issues with anything ground related and even perhaps sometimes feminine, and it is sad that his own set of beliefs seemed to veer too much into a detachment, in opposition to the biological and material, even if he tried to imbue it with martial wisdom. I think that was a combination of his eastern influences and his love of what he viewed as masculinity. The role of the aristocrat is to reject the physical world and live exclusively for the spiritual. >But fertility is certainly not limited to the feminine. I want to reiterate that I don't really have an personal emotional investment in this, but fertility certainly seems to be feminine to me. That's why he differentiates Celestial/Masculine and Terrestrial/Feminine - the Heavens impregnate the Earth with rain and sunlight, etc. So it seems important to draw a distinction between virility and fertility. I know the old gods were ichthyphallic a...whole lot of the time...but the difference is that the priest-patriarch spends his vitality to produce an inheritor of the tradition. The woman receives his vitality to accomplish the same. I think that virility and fertility are the two masculine and feminine sides of the same phenomenon. >It appeared to be more concerned with recycling in certain systems of belief. Again, I'm not a pure Evola-school Traditionalist, but this is my understanding of his system. The idea that all people possess immortal souls is hopelessly modern. Recycling certainly occurs, but it occurs in the world of change, Earth. It also does not involve individuals or individual "souls" being recycled. They're just manifestations of the peoples' totem - there is no spiritual identity for the common man outside of his people and tradition. Certainly in Buddhism, which is possibly the least materialistic religion conceivable, Hell is a temporary (if long) step on the road to reincarnation. So I might just not have a good grasp on Evola's notion of the Underworld.
>>17976 >the universe is cyclic. Not just spontaneously coming to be from nowhere This is very important to try to get across to people. Even many atheists have the misconception that science indicates that the big bang was the absolute beginning of the universe, or even of everything. This is almost certainly a holdover from Abrahamic thinking. I cannot believe that there are so many people who believe that the universe was condensed into a point smaller than a pinprick, and then magically started expanding for the first time ever, as an absolute beginning, for apparently no reason. The idea of a cyclical universe is both very intuitive in light of the alternatives, not to mention that it is depicted over and over and over again in the traditions of people all over the planet. My theory is that as science gets deeper into things, it will gradually reverse and instead of moving further away from what the ancients were saying, it will instead gradually move closer. Though the current dogmas they buy into are currently limiting them, though maybe not forever. >>17987 I will have to look into this. There is all sorts of "DEBOONKED" type stuff when I google it. This seems worth digging into then
>>17997 I hope you won't mind if I push this into the Aryan Religion thread? This thread calls for shitposting and I think we're venturing off tracks onto more serious matters.
>>18055 >There is all sorts of "DEBOONKED" type stuff when I google it. That's because it basically picks up the torch of science directly from the early 20th century, when it was dropped in favour of Einsteinian nonsense. Most of those idiots can't be bothered to actually try to understand any part of it. >This seems worth digging into then Just remember that there are many different people with many different ideas, it's more like a movement than a single idea. For example, part of it is the theory that our original solar system had Saturn as the sun, and the planets were aligned completely differently. Then about 10 000 years ago this solar system collided with our current sun's solar system, completely rearranging the position of planets, and many of mankind's oldest stories are about this catastrophe. Indeed, most of the gods were planets that were so close you could see them with the naked eye. The whole electric sky series is dedicated to this theory, but to understand how any of this works you have to be familiar with the electric sun theory. Without that it can look like a bunch of nonsense at first.
>>18055 The cycle, in its cataclysmic proportions, could include a big expansion and a big compression of epic proportions, so much that the whole universe's inertia conspires to crush itself into a single point. New ideas appear today and as we speak of a universe, it's possible that it's a neighbour of others, some already crushing, others still expanding, etc. >My theory is that as science gets deeper into things, it will gradually reverse and instead of moving further away from what the ancients were saying, it will instead gradually move closer. This is already happening but remains a bit fringe, or afraid of openly adopting such views because it's simply too close to religion. Look at the flood mythS, totally rejected today because it would then force atheists to concede that, damn, the Bible actually contains some truth, even if the truth in question is absolutely unrelated to any Abrahamic religion. It's a guilt by association because it's in the Bible so it stops here.
>>18066 > For example, part of it is the theory that our original solar system had Saturn as the sun, and the planets were aligned completely differently. Then about 10 000 years ago this solar system collided with our current sun's solar system, completely rearranging the position of planets, and many of mankind's oldest stories are about this catastrophe. Indeed, most of the gods were planets that were so close you could see them with the naked eye. The whole electric sky series is dedicated to this theory, but to understand how any of this works you have to be familiar with the electric sun theory. Without that it can look like a bunch of nonsense at first. This theory is finding some support I think through another theory that grew from an observation of the bodies found on the edges of the Milky Way; many stars that clearly belong to an oblique plane with an inclination identical to the Sol system. This would explain why we see the Milky Way in this slanted way, as we're literally the left overs of a smaller galaxy that impact and got eaten by the Milky Way. I think it's a fantastic theory.
>>18071 >The cycle, in its cataclysmic proportions, could include a big expansion and a big compression of epic proportions, so much that the whole universe's inertia conspires to crush itself into a single point. This is basically what I was thinking as well. If there was this singularity-point, I would be inclined to believe that what happened was something like what you say here. Interestingly the pre-Socratic philosopher Empedocles had a theory in his cosmology that was vaguely reminiscent of all this. There were four elements, and as the universe cycled between different stages of Love and Strife, the elements would under the domination of total Love, everything would be fused into a single mass, and under Strife, all of the elements would be completely separated among the four kinds. Not completely similar, but it shows that some were thinking along these lines even in the past where there are states of the universe where everything quite literally becomes condensed into one. >New ideas appear today and as we speak of a universe, it's possible that it's a neighbour of others, some already crushing, others still expanding, etc. I have heard this as well. It's another error that many people make that the big bang necessarily means the origin of the entire universe. I used to fall for a lot of these errors, but it's clear today to me that it is in reference only to the observable universe. Of course it's quite possible that this is the only one, but one can never be too certain.' >This is already happening but remains a bit fringe, or afraid of openly adopting such views because it's simply too close to religion. Yes, exactly. I have been studying the idea of panpsychism recently, and it is humorous to read the authors have to stop and say things like "Now I know this all sounds a little bit New Age..." or "it sounds ridiculous on the face of it that even fundamental particles could have a tiny bit of subjectivity, but..." It is like they are embarrassed to even have to go down this route, but increasingly with this and other topics both related and unrelated, they will feel compelled to do so, but it is the unwritten orthodoxy holding them back. The flood myths are a great example.
I think not all muslims are bad. There are muslims who think that their nigger tier terrorists of their religion are bad too. And not only that, some of them hate their own religion but cannot do anything about it because leaving Islam means instant death. I pity the latter group.
>>18198 I don't care about who is good and bad. Keep them the fuck out of America and Europe.
>>18198 one you start paying attention, you realize all races pretty much hate niggers. browns dont belong in White nations
>>18198 >I think not all muslims are bad. I know of smart ones and also reasonable Muslims but you can't shake off the idea that they're delusional and dishonest, filtering entire swatches of their book so they can avoid the consequences implied by the very clear calls to violence. Unsurprisingly, most Muslims do not want to die. This is why I'm extremely weary of attempts at pushing Christians/Whites into a deadly battle against Muslims. Putting aside past invasions and battles for a moment, and not advocating for any misplaced love, there is no denying that the forced Islamic immigration fits this plan of mutually assured destruction to a t, as per the Protocols, be they doctored or not (as smart people point out, it doesn't matter because they completely mirror what is going on right now).
>>18394 What is with Muslims - they are hardcore when it comes to adultery, homosexuals, fornicators, and the like, but they are utterly pozzed and vote for utterly pozzed politics as soon as they have any contact with the West. Is it just some form of taqiyya in order to protect themselves?
>>18404 >pozzed muslims I think its because they experience the forbidden fruit and can't go back for the women I ironically used to know a few muslim girls back in school who wore the hijab and all, but were absolute sluts from what I heard in school, the men get angrier, hence the muh terrorism is almost always male. After all, stoning your wife to death because she wasn't wearing a burqa is still frowned upon in the US unless you go to Twin Citiestan. That is until they get to be a sizable minority and then the men start beating their wives until they either die and get covered up, or they start diddling children like Uncle Joe n' co and local authorties are either complicit or afraid of the "culturally insensitive" logo.
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>>18198 >Woahhhh dude I just had a realization there there is a based talented tenth >This. Changes. Everything.
>>18404 >utterly pozzed and vote for utterly pozzed politics as soon as they have any contact with the West They are voting for the anti-White party it's not that hard to understand, anon.
>>18408 I apologize if I came off like that. But I grew up in Asia, so the muslims tend to practice their own religion and leave other races alone. All I know is that sandnigs in sand land (and Europe) are dangerous.
>>18407 This shit is why I don't get Islam. The more you repress a woman, the naughtier she gets. Now I'm obviously not advocating for them to be as pozzed as possible.
>>18426 >The more you repress a woman, the naughtier she gets Wrong. This only happens because we live in an individualistic, anti-patriarchal society. It pays to be a whore and is celebrated. The government has undermined patriarchal authority through a variety of means such as voting rights, birth control and making it so they have to work outside the home. More controversially (even though its true), another way patriarchal authority was undermined was through various campaigns to crackdown and illegalize what is referred to as "domestic violence", which can refer to anything from spanking or disciplining your wife against her will to beating her bloody (the latter is nigger-tier). It's all lumped under one category and demonized, and the natural authority of the father is taken away from him. Whores simply are not shamed today. It is becoming harder and harder due to ZOG and feminism. Now that this stuff is promoted and celebrated, certain types of woman will feel indignant and rebellious if she is not granted her 'natural right' to be a whore and do whatever she wants. If they were shamed and patriarchal authority was enshrined in law again, all of this would disappear within a year. Many ancient Aryan societies were Muslim-tier when it comes to women, and they never had this problem. Referring to ancient Greece and Aryan period India in particular.
>>18433 I typed up a large ass response but I lost it when I crashed... Sorry if this seems incomplete I'll rebutt your points in a further time? >It pays to be a whore I kind of (?) agree? Have you heard of the Arabic (pre islamic) Nikah Ijtimah ? https://web.archive.org/web/20060209101630/http://www.answering-ansar.org/answers/muawiya/en/chap11.php >"…there were four types of marriage during the Pre-Islamic period of ignorance. One type was similar to that of the present day, i.e. a man used to ask somebody else for the hand of a girl under his guardianship or for his daughter's hand…. another type of marriage was that a group of less than ten men would assemble and enter upon a women, and all of them would have sexual relations with her. If she became pregnant and delivered a child and some days had passed after her delivery, she would send for all of them and none of them could refuse to come, and when they all gathered before her she would say to them "You (all) know what you have done and now I have given birth to a child. So it is your child O so and so! Naming whoever she liked and her child would follow him and he could not refuse to take him.." This is pretty interesting, I think if the translation is assumed to be accurate (because I don't read arabric). Take this with the fact that Polyandry exists (surivies) in some siberian groups, around the Himalayas, North Americas, Europe (there is the case of Allia Potestas, https://web.archive.org/web/20110607112832/http://www.stoa.org/diotima/anthology/wlgr/wlgr-mensopinions47.shtml) leads credence to that it was once widespread. The existence of Polygyny in the muslim world indicates it was also widely spread and still continues to be. In nature if my memory serves most species are polygamous. Therefore, it would lead me to conclude, that monogamous marriages must be an evolutionary function. I do note that monogamous marriages are somewhat rare to my memory in Africa, I surmise because this due to the fact in Europe/Asia, agricultural impact was much greater, if you couldn't plant food well you'd freeze and starve to death. Not in Tropical Africa at least. My conclusion would be that humanity evolved from polygamous to monogamous marriages because of societal pressure, and I think we are (de)evolving to the polygamous version again because there is abundance. There is no (physical) need to be monogamous. You (typically) wont starve to death. >Aryan = patriarchal I am hesitant to say I agree with that statement, more like emphasizing patriarchal leadership. Tomyris, Boudica are a few female leaders throughout history. I wonder if the true difference between the "civilized" (I say that of the loosest terms, from Europe to Japan, excluding only most of central/south africa,) states versus those who are not were an ability for those women on the far right end of the bell curve who could lead gain a chance to lead? Unfortunately we won't answer that question properly, there's a key component missing and thats the records of the people that inhabited what is now Xinjiang and the central Asian Steppe. Tibetans are distinct in that they diverged from "Chinese" (I used that as the original "Han") long before any turkic/western groups were assimilated, and are directly related to those living in Burma and the Pacific Islanders (and Abbos); the Himalayas and Takahrim would form a barrier from any turkic/Indo-European group migration. After all, it is recorded that there were many migrations eastwards into central northern China (when there was a weak dynasty/ no real central government in China proper) and many migrations westwards (when the central government was strong).
>>18459 I was talking more in terms of familes and close kin rather than the leaders of nations and large groups. The father is the natural “king” of his family, and acts so in the absence of laws preventing him from doing so. Though it is an aberration from the normal course of events, there have been female leaders from time to time in almost every part of the planet and with every race, even among Arabs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_queens_regnant In fact, no higher civilization has ever been intensely gynocentric. The Aryan way has always been one of spiritual virility—self-control, self-overcoming, the Faustian drive. This is very different from a reactive, sensual, content feminine set of virtues. >I do note that monogamous marriages are somewhat rare to my memory in Africa Polygamous marriages are more common, that is all. It’s impossible for monogamous marriages to be rare since the sex ratio is fairly close to 1:1. There are slightly more females overall. >Not in Tropical Africa at least. Interestingly Wikipedia cites studies which theorize that polygamy might have arisen in Africa because of a strict sexual division of labor and the fact that if a man had more wives, the planting of crops could be done more quickly and efficiently since it was woman’s work. >I think we are (de)evolving to the polygamous version again because there is abundance. There is no (physical) need to be monogamous. We’re devolving into neither polygamy or monogamy. Marriage doesn’t even come into the question. It’s just casual sex and hookups without even a stable partner, which is quite different from a man being married with several wives.
>>18461 Ah I see, so we are not that far apart after all in thought. Just that I read your argument in a different reasoning. >Tropical Africa I think that is something that we will never know the real answer too, whatever answer there is was lost within time itself.
I don't think all kikes are totally evil. I think it's just the elite and high-powered ones. The average kike can just go back to israel. Same with any other race. I don't get why people hate every last person of a race. But if it's just used as a generalization and acknowledge that there are good people of all races than that's fine by me.
>>18778 I think there's a captioned image of Hitler floating around with a quote that addresses your point, maybe someone has it, but it goes to the effect that the "good" jews fail to distance themselves from the evil ones and so he had to fight them all. Nonetheless many jews who fought for Germany in World War 1 were spared on specific orders of Goering who thought it unthinkable to punish them. There's also at least one jewish (by blood not belief) soldier in the German Wehrmacht who was considered worthy. They had a special name for that, he got kind of a special permission. But there's another thing that concerns me, it's that a lot of jews have married into the tribe. Genetically they and to some extent their children are not or not majorly semitic. Especially if aryans are concerned their blood should be stronger once we free them from the kikery.
>>18783 I can understand the evil and replicable Rothschild and the megajews and what they're doing to White people. But I cannot picture a jew shopkeeper going like "yes, die White people". They're just going through life. And I don't mean the religious one. They all need to go back to israel though.
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>>18795 >But I cannot picture a jew shopkeeper going like "yes, die White people" They don't. The lemming phenomenon is applicable to every group of people, Jews included. This doesn't mean that the average Jew is innocent though. All statistics indicate that Jews act in a way that is implicitly anti-White, and this directly flows from the idea of Tikkun Olam, or "repairing the world". One might reply that "I'm not talking about religious Jews", but this is an almost entirely meaningless distinction. Most Jews in America don't even believe in God, but they fully support the spirit of Tikkun Olam. Or if they are not atheists in this sense, they are part of a rising strain of Judaism called Reconstructionist Judaism, where it is the goal of man to bring about the evolving civilization, which Judaism takes a "chosen" role in bringing about. That Jewish shopkeeper you mentioned probably goes to his synagogue occasionally even if he's not religious, or he will donate, if he is especially successful, what money he can to help niggers or poor immigrants. Does he necessarily know that he is doing this to destroy White people? No, but the Jew feels deep down that what he is doing is "right" for whatever reason, which may partially be associated with survival. This would by necessity be a very unconscious process, but the Jew would sense that in a multicultural society that is less White they would be better off as a group, and even smalltime Jews are clannish.
>>18778 They're so few that it literally doesn't matter, the jewish either renounce judaism and become a better human or they can all go to hell as far as I'm concerned. They're all a race of parasites and vicious liars, seeing as people like bobby fischer who actually gave up that subhumanism were treated by the "normal jew shopkeeper" none of them are normal dude, they are all sick and evil. And those who are not evil do like Fischer. Because their books do teach a strong belief in total evil. It's such a shame Martin Luther was betrayed by his (((fellow))) christcucks when he discovered what jews actually believe in when he was working on the new testament. Their ideology-religion is not just deluded it's abstract evil parasitism.
>>18806 >Bobby Fisher not gonna lie, dude's based
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>>18806 >the jewish either renounce judaism and become a better human Don't rely on that. Christcucks fall into this mindset and this is why they have been subverted time and time again. Even people you mention like Bobby Fischer are mischlings and not full-blooded kikes. He was half Aryan.
>>18778 >>18795 >>18783 Where the fuck did you pacifist pussies come from? 1. we support an Ethnoglobe just as pierce envisiioned in the Turner diaries. 2. Under no circumstances are any jews going to be left alive on this planet after we are done, either we win or they do, not even if we decide to contravene point 1, the jews are to be exterminated utterly. 3. get the Christkike morality the fuck out of your head there are no innocent or good jews, and Bobby Fischer is included in that no matter how much he hated his own people and if he truly hated them like us he would have accepted his own death as a consequence of aiding us.
>>18809 Yes Fischer was halfling, but notice even though he was a halfling jews tried their damnedest to "own" him, and when he disbanded and spoke out against their evil cult the jews as a whole group tried to literally destroy the man in any possible way they could. I hate this exception of the rule mindset "Good jews" my ass, the jews don't think good White people exist, because they're trying to murder and genocide us ALL right now, so why should we not return them that favor? Why should we have mercy after all the evil they have done? Never again. Hitler tried, other have, no avail. Their entire race is literally worthless.
>>18812 I don't even think Jews think in a sense of good versus evil. Yahweh in the Old Testament is the source of both light and darkness, prosperity and disasters. They don't pussyfoot around God as the creator of everything like Christcucks do, and ontop of that, I think they view things in a very calculated manner, the super elite Jews in particular. Does it benefit the Jews? If yes, it is the highest good. Does it harm the Jews? Then it is the greatest evil. It is only here that these concept receives any meaning. In this sense they are more intelligent than the average denatured White preson of modernity (largely due to the Jews' doing). And as a side note, those who think in terms of "good Jews" are typically thinking individualistically, as if the presence of a single good apple in a pile of tainted, rotting ones justifies the existence of the rest.
>>18810 >Hey you Mr Hitler or whatever your name is where the fuck did you pacifist pussies come from? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorary_Aryan
>>18817 Yes lets make the same mistakes Hitler did, that will certainly lead us to victory, No more Honrary Aryans, this world is ours, and we will have it for our race alone.
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>>18817 You need to read 'The Lightning and the Sun'. > One can say, with more and more certainty as the “Dark Age” goes on, that the god-like men of action are defeated, at least for the time being, not for having been too ruthless (and thus for having roused against themselves and their ideas and their collaborators the indignation of the “decent people”), but for not having been ruthless enough — for not having killed off their fleeing enemies, to the last man, in the brief hour of triumph; for not having silenced both the squeamish millions of hypocrites and their masters, the clever producers of atrocity-tales, by more substantial violences, more complete exterminations.
>>18821 The japs weren't Hitler's fleeing enemies, though.
>>18832 But they will be ours.
>>18404 Freeloaders. They don't have to accept the host society's customs as they live in their own subareas. They go to the left because the left is generous with other people's money and are lax towards migrants. It's win-win for them, they can keep their enriching culture while pretending being integrated for a while, yet they amass generous heaps of (mainly White-extracted) cash, courtesy of the ZOG. This is why the spread of LGBTQ+ is a gross illusion spread by the media as it's certainly not accepted by the majority of masses of migrants. So when you have Google, Amazon, Facebook, etc., pushing for more Anal&Aids rainbows, they're massively skewing the reality of the political spectrum. This goes way beyond virtue signaling and is plain subversion by kikes of shabbo goyim (CEO, COO, chief of this and that, Chairman blah blah, etc.). This being said, some of the people coming from retarded Muslim countries are real goat fuckers.
>>18433 >More controversially (even though its true), another way patriarchal authority was undermined was through various campaigns to crackdown and illegalize what is referred to as "domestic violence", which can refer to anything from spanking or disciplining your wife against her will to beating her bloody (the latter is nigger-tier). Sean Connery did nothing wrong.
>>18778 >>18783 >>18795 >>18797 Jews outside of Israel are literally condemned to subvert other nations as part of their survival strategy, and because of their culturally and now genetically ingrained ways, will always attract the ire of these populations they live. The history of Europe is a long story of those "innocent" and "nice" Jews who always moved from one place to another and always accepted the subversive work from the active members that allowed their people to be accepted under a king's wing for some time. Too many NPCs make an opinion of the Jews based on the ones they know who for the most part are the sort of integrated ones, but you never know how they'd behave once their community at large is threatened. So you would say fine, let's move them to Israel then and fuck the Arabs. Let's use Israel as a dumping ground. Then, looking at Israel, you realize that it's a state that is nothing more than a bunker for Jewish criminals and, typical of a Jewish state, is a parasite for other major White countries. Remove the wealth and technology it extracted and continues to extract from European and North American countries through various ways, what is this country left with? Nothing! Israel could only be tolerated as a demilitarized backwater area, complete under severe Aryan rule. Literally a big concentration camp. But let's be honest anons. Once there, why wouldn't we go the extra mile and just put them out of their misery once and for all?
>>18849 Would you hold that same thought for chinks, spics, nigs etc? Strangely enough, I've been seeing fascists from the third world nowadays. And they have read the important books.
>>18866 Daily reminder that /fascist/ is an ethnoglobalist board.
Here are a couple of mine >The west and western philosophy has to die, only some philosophy of the west should be preserved >The Roman Empire sucks ass and was never fascist or a good example of fascism whatsoever >Our enemies deserved to be humiliated, not just killed >Slavery is perfectly fine as long as it does not make us slave making ants and used for material gains >Honorary Aryans can be rewarded for assisting our cause, but cannot mix nor live along with Whites
Also >Castes systems are based and fine to work with as long as they are racial and fash
Classical fascism is 10 times better than national socialism
>>18901 >Fascism kosher or boomer fascism is better than National Socialism Lol no.
>>18913 National socialism is a dead end ideology
>>18916 >National socialism is a dead end ideology ,How exactly? Classical fascism is bluepilled version of fascism and hasn't gone anywhere since Mussolini died.
>>18901 It's the other way around. Fascism without National Socialism is only partially connected to reality. National Socialism is eternal and can be adhered to almost like a religion of Nature. Almost everyone who rejects National Socialism in favor of classical Fascism usually has a personal reason for doing so.
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>>18916 National Socialism is the only version of Fascism with any relevance today. Hitler tapped into something greater than just another "ism", and it is as clear as day to anyone who sincerely studies Mein Kampf, the principles of Nature and the history of the Aryans. More people become National Socialists every year. It's the only true alternative, the only revolutionary idea left, and it is one based in something so fundamental to reality that anyone who can truly break the conditioning will be led to it. Non-NS fascists, on the other hand, are very liable to fall into cuckery of various kinds, especially on the topic of race and Jews. This is very obvious with how the eceleb Cultured Thug has been exposed to be part Turk and thinks that America will turn into some multiculti third positionist kumbaya-singing empire
>>18931 >What do you mean "exposed"? People are Turkish all the time. And Turks are fascist all the time, too. He is a Karakalpak masquerading as a pure White man. Go to 39:11 in the first video here. He uses this guise to pretend that he has been enlightened on White Nationalism and that it has been rejected. Now he associates with Nazbols and other suspicious individuals https://archive.org/details/CulturedThugKnowAMansLibraryKnowTheManReUpload http://www.renegadetribune.com/cultured-thug-the-nazbol/
>>18934 >be turkish >advocate for a multi ethnic empire >lmao just a coincidence Fuck off ethnopluralist
>>18931 >People are Turkish all the time. And Turks are fascist all the time, too. Turkish hands wrote this post. Turks aren't fascist they're Israel's bitch and have a history of jerking Jews off. >>18934 He's a nazbol who hangs around kikes and you're damage controlling and do exactly what fascist shouldn't be doing, (((Turk))) which is circle-jerking e-celebs when they've fucked up. >Because he had some ancestor on his mother's side? Still not White dumbass, he's a mongrel. >How many "White" Americans do you think have Turkic, Asiatic or Mongolic ancestry, especially from breeding with native Indians? No excuse dumbass he's still not White and is a mongrel. Only like 5% of Americans are mixed raced and contain ancestory outside of Europe. If you're mixed you're always more likely to become a degenerate and spiritually despise nature.
>>18936 >which is circle-jerking e-celebs when they've fucked up. *which is circle-jerking e-celebs, especially when they've fucked up.*
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>ecelebs and grifters Imagine sucking up to ((( popular e-celebs ))) in 2021. This is peak faggotry and most of ^ are FAGGOTS. Who do you think allowed to give them that popularity in the first place huh? When most people these days get banned for just disagreeing textually on (((big tech platforms))) Some get through the needle's eye yes but for the most part they are not (((popular))). Mostly those actually threatening bad goys get their payment solutions taken down and other things, the people who such things happen to it's sort of a verification shit test of legitimacy.
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>>18936 >Only like 5% of Americans are mixed raced
>>18934 t. Cultured Thug He's a mutt who claims to have seen the light regarding White Nationalism and now he leads away actual White people from WN solutions. Now he shills for ethnopluralist third positionism and wants America to be some sort of "multi-racial Roman empire". It's anti-White, and he's quite possibly a bad actor. Associating with Keith Woods is another huge red flag
>>18945 >multi ethnic empire. America was founded as as a White republic only for men of decent character. The ones who did away with it were jews and masonic corrupters.
>>18945 >When there have literally been israeli fascist movements (which somehow never get discussed here) There's already a mutt problem, no need to attract Jews here. >You already have a multi ethnic empire. We have a Jewish corporate empire
>>18934 How I look at this is that if someone has any discernible non-White traits or acts non-White, they must be excluded from breeding with the general populace, as their nuclear DNA is tainted. If you exclude people people who aren't phenotypically and behaviorly White, you will have a very pure White ethnostate. Eugenics policies like this, if applied to Greece or Italy, will return the countries to their ancient, pure Nordic White state in about two or three hundred years, by breeding for height IQ, dolicephaly/mesocephaly, and light hair and eye colors. Eugenics, when applied to full on non-Whites, only creates superior breeds of non-White subhumans. Hell, the only reason why the Jews are even a threat to us is because we killed the weakest of them, raising their overall IQ from 85 to 115. In Roman times, they were little more than dumb arabs. I do think that if we killed off the non-Whites in Latin or South Africa to make them White countries, we would need to exclude anyone who isn't phenotypically or behaviorly White from breeding. Merely passing for White on the census or having being an octoroon who has White skin does not makes you White. You need no physical characteristics uniquely specific of non-Whites in your phenotype to merely qualify. If you don't look phenotypically or act behaviorly White, I am affraid you are not genetically White. I am afraid you don't qualify for the ethnostate, sir.
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>>18951 >"200 year old people exist" mental gymnastics >more witty shadowskinkike pilpul
>>18951 >You let it get taken from you and never resisted. Jews work by boiling the frog. Gradualism is the name of the game. You give them an inch, and they take a mile. Hardly anyone could foresee what was being done.
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>>18951 All of the answers to these questions are well-known in these circles and easily able to be found out from a quick search, what are you trying to pull, Chaim?
>>18936 I've met a mullato who is (35% nig and the rest, White) and be told me that he didn't like being excluded. I told him that I understand where he's coming from but you need to understand that even based shitskins or mullatos are still going to be judges and THAT'S FINE. At the end of the day the movement is for Whites only. They are the ones being genocided. The movement wants to look good by hiring Whites only. You don't see india nationalists movements having chinks or something right? Makes sense. I mean for those who can't join a Whites only group, I guess they can just be sympathetic and support from afar.
>>18958 >judges judged**
>>18945 Yeah you type exactly like a Turk you're not fooling anyone. You were also in the Japan thread and got asshurt when someone shat on Turans and Turks. Also no one would go on a dead board just to defend them as well. >Hahhaa. and Americans? and european countries? Oh the hypocrisy. Are you fucking retarded? That's not hypcrocisy, that's whataboutism. European White created facism in the first place, Europeans instituted create the concepts and went by the ideas of powers for years to come. The Roman Empire is an example of this, the modern west being gay and retarded doesn;t mean anything, because Turkey and Turks themselves are as gay as the west. >So are you a fascist if you live in those countries? See this line of logic is an example of how I know you're Turk. >And? You can be fascist without being White. No you can't as a matter of fact, what's the point of being fascist if it was created by Whites and the west in the first place? Most fascist are White nationalists or supremacist, there is no reason for a nonWhite to be fash other than helping our cause and realizing their place in the world. >Citation needed. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiracial_Americans
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Oh, I got banned lmao. Wonder what rule I broke. And we just had a thread celebrating our great freedom of discussion on here, amazing! >>18954 If that "ethnostate" ever happens. WNs have been trying to get one since forever, and what? Couldn't even take Namibia. Or that one island in the Pacific, lmao. I think we will sooner see world communism. This is the problem i have with you. You just can't be real, you act tough on here but IRL you won't lift a finger. It's just "yeah! we'll build our own state, and then, we'll hang all those subhuman nonWhites, and then, we'll do this and then we'll do that!" as if it's actually just gonna magically happen one day and you are just waiting for it. >ancient, pure Nordic White state <=== this doesn't look very Nordic to me. Nordic people live in Northern Europe because their light skin lets more sunlight in. Meds don't need that, hence they're darker. Believing everyone from Italy to China was once a great Aryan Nordic civilization is a wewuz-tier fantasy, and you know it. >If you don't look phenotypically or act behaviorly White According to whom? What are "White" behaviours that non-Whites don't do? >>18955 Don't know what you're trying to say with that weird quote, sorry. >>18956 Well, now you apparently realized. Still there is no ethnostate. >>18957 So am I a Jew or a Turk? You gotta choose one, man! >>18960 >Yeah you type exactly like a Turk you're not fooling anyone. If it makes you feel better. >You were also in the Japan thread and got asshurt when someone shat on Turans and Turks. Also no one would go on a dead board just to defend them as well. No idea what you're talking about, mate. This board isn't dead, either. >Are you fucking retarded? That's not hypcrocisy, that's whataboutism. European White created facism in the first place, Europeans instituted create the concepts and went by the ideas of powers for years to come. Not sure what that has to do with Israel. And the other half of that sentence is word salad. What Europeans created is already in practice all over the world, since Europe colonized the world and spread its civilisation across the world. Now everyone is part of European culture, because Europeans brought it to everyone. That's why people shake hands, drive cars, and wear suits on all five continents. >No you can't as a matter of fact, what's the point of being fascist if it was created by Whites and the west in the first place? It's an ideology? It's not attached to your race. That's like saying only the French can be liberal. If you disagree maybe you should name this board to /White/. >other than helping our cause and realizing their place in the world. Yeah, cool, so what's wrong with that then? >>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiracial_Americans >There is evidence that an accounting by genetic ancestry would produce a higher number. Historical reasons, including slavery creating a racial caste and the European-American suppression of Native Americans, often led people to identify or be classified by only one ethnicity, generally that of the culture in which they were raised.[4] Prior to the mid-20th century, many people hid their multiracial heritage because of racial discrimination against minorities.[4] While many Americans may be considered multiracial, they often do not know it or do not identify so culturally, any more than they maintain all the differing traditions of a variety of national ancestries.[4] It's like you don't even read the links you post!
The DR will never succeed as long as it has no real appeal to actual elites or even use to protect their interests alongside no real use to hostile forces to ZOG (see China). No mass movement of note and success within the past millenia succeeded without elite support or use by geopolitcal outsiders. The Jews in many ways didn't start the disease that is plaguing the Whiteland. Merely spreads it as befits their interests. One of the biggest problems with the DR is that it clings to the notion of "Western civilization." Itself a product of Christiandom. They're too many incels/coomers in the DR. >>18271 Even pro grifter Jesse Jackson said he was relieved a man walking behind him was White. >>18459 >Boudica >Tomyris Neither had authority over males absent of marriage ties. >>18433 All women who are attractive and not overused are sluts. >>18461 >We’re devolving into neither polygamy or monogamy. Marriage doesn’t even come into the question. It’s just casual sex and hookups without even a stable partner, which is quite different from a man being married with several wives. No, that's just how mass open polygamy works. (attractive, unclaimed) Women are not inclined to enforced monogamy, men are since it gives them more options to ensure they can own a woman. Women absent of restrictions on them live in societies where if they're not repulsive or defective offer their tits and asses to all non-overly close males with said males fighting viciously until one wins or one claims the women. Women have no unconditional loyalty to the volk, merely their immediate blood and male who claimed them at most.
>>18961 >He can't read The sad state of being low IQ, also my link doesn't disapprove anything. The case of Americans being mixed race is still very few. This your part african negro brain not working in the process.
>>18961 >Believing everyone from Italy to China was once a great Aryan Nordic civilization is a wewuz-tier fantasy, and you know it. Ignoring all of the proof. Nice
>>18963 What are you trying to prove anyway? That America is actually totally still White? If so, what are you even complaining about? >>18966 Please show me your epic proof infographics that are totally different from the blacks doing the same wewuzzing. And please, ignore all the ancient depictions from those cultures showing their people as decidedly not nordic.
>>18962 >All women who are attractive and not overused are sluts. And not overused? Then they're not sluts. >mass open polygamy works. No such thing. The word 'polygamy' itself explicitly implies marriage. If there's no marriage, it's no polygamy, it's just sleeping around, and especially with the culture today which is founded on casual sex and fornication with near-strangers. >men are Concubinage and the frequency of polygamy in cultures around the world proves you wrong. Polyandry on the other hand is extremely rare. Men don't like to share women, and no one likes sluts.
>>18961 This is a troll or maybe an asshurt pajeet or medcuck asshurt.
>>18967 There's an entire thread's worth of proof, anon. Posting some medieval Indian artwork isn't proof of shit against this case when the Aryans are known to have arrived in the Subcontinent some 3,500 years ago >>11770
>>18961 >And we just had a thread celebrating our great freedom of discussion on here, amazing! Yes, because it is free of kikes like you
>>18961 >If that "ethnostate" ever happens. WNs have been trying to get one since forever, and what? Couldn't even take Namibia. What are you talking about are you just here to ramble and be stupid? >This is the problem i have with you Then leave or better and stop coming on here, this is the problem I have with homosexuals like (You), you cry bitch and moan over the pettiest shit like women on boards, while trying to act like tough shit. No one is stopping you from exiting out of here. > You just can't be real, you act tough on here but IRL you won't lift a finger. Lol you're making a-lot of assumptions based on nothing retard. I've made my own contributions without the feds knowing, I've brought communities together and assisted common blood. Just because a change nationally hasn't been done today doesn't mean we don't do anything in the future or haven't prepared. All your lmaos are copes. >Nordic people live in Northern Europe because their light skin lets more sunlight in. Meds don't need that, hence they're darker. You're dumb, Meds are light-skin, most of them are darker, because of their tans not because of sunlight, Nords developed light-skin likely through milk or have always had it, although there is no evidence that sunlight contributes to dark-skin. At least research topics you're talking about. > Believing everyone from Italy to China was once a great Aryan Nordic civilization is a wewuz-tier fantasy, and you know it. Yeah I don't think a med cuck should talk, meds believe that Romans, Spics, kikes and Greeks are all the same and that their less degenerate and better than the Anglos despite the btfo's from Germans and Anglos they've faced for years. And hindpoos believe they wuz the tru Aryanz! We have cases and evidences that already talks about possibilities of Whites and their contributions to societies. All indo-Europeans cultures come from Whites no matter what you cope around about with excuses. https://nitter.net/xujnx/status/1259364705853997056
>>18977 >dark-skin Meant light-skin
>>18968 >They're not sluts or overused? Then they're not sluts They're sluts from birth. As Jim Donald recorded little girls flirt with much older males. (top) Men have a built in detector for telling if a women has been overused with them avoiding said women as mothers. >No such thing. The word 'polygamy' itself explicitly implies marriage. If there's no marriage, it's no polygamy, it's just sleeping around, and especially with the culture today which is founded on casual sex and fornication with near-strangers. If there is ultimately no enforcement preventing women from offering themselves to all non-overly related males and preventing treacherous males from muh diking women then you Actually Existing Polygamy. >men are >Concubinage and the frequency of polygamy in cultures around the world proves you wrong. Polyandry on the other hand is extremely rare. Men don't like to share women, and no one likes sluts. Name all the societies with open polygamy (rather than stealth polygamy aka mistresses) that advanced beyond the Bronze Age and reliably won wars against monogamous neighbors. Monogamy always brings cohesion among males since they have more options to claim women and don't have to worry about untrustworthy males muh diking. The only moderns practicing open polygamy are Mudslimes (pawns of ZOG) and Mormons (Christcuck We Wuzers who are functionally Kikes complete with women who think virginity means Anal Only).
>>18982 >They're sluts from birth. As Jim Donald recorded little girls flirt with much older males. Flirting in what way? If some little girl is playful or shy around an older male, this seems natural enough, but I would not immediately make the leap that they are a slut. >If there is ultimately no enforcement preventing women from offering themselves to all non-overly related males and preventing treacherous males from muh diking women then you Actually Existing Polygamy. No, it's not. Again, polygamy implies marriage by definition. A polygamous society would be something like we seen in Islam. A man can have up to four wives, people don't sleep around, and if you are married and cheat on your wife / wives, you still will be put to death for adultery. This is completely different from the sort of sexual liberation degeneracy such as casual sex or 'polyamory' or whatever the fuck they call it. >don't have to worry about untrustworthy males muh diking. Irrelevant to polygamy if there is restrictions on extramarital sexual activity. You are using a term incorrectly.
>>18901 Lol you wish, I like how you just state that you think it is better, but don't explain why. >>18940 The vast majority of White Americans are not mixed, the vast majority are indeed White European as Euros, this meme needs to die about Americans being mutts, because Europe also had it's unfortunate share of having mutts as well due to the the mixing with North Africans and Jews in Southern Europe. This isn't to say that there aren't any Amerimutts in Weimar America, but that the mutts in america are overrepresentated on purpose by fascists, the left, and the right. Even when you count White males mixing female niggers during the 18-19th centuries, only like 8 percent of Southern self-proclaimed Whites have African ancestry. The problem with America is that they changed White to meaning light-skin caucasian rather than Northern European to destroy the meaning of what the Founding Fathers placed the meaning of White means, although they sort of failed, because White Europeans still prefer their own over others.
>>18987 Please name a single society that's post-Bronze Age which reliably outperformed monogamous ones in war, invention, etc.
>>19016 Japan.
>>19036 >japan Japan didn't even have metal foundry until the 15th century until the Dutch introduced it to them. They're literally the perfect of examples are nigger-tier monkeys being incapable of creating anything on their own.
>>19040 You said post-Bronze Age, and you were given an answer, I know you want to cope your way out of your quandry now, but Japan didn’t illegalize polygamy until 1945 when ZOG occupied them >They're literally the perfect of examples are nigger-tier monkeys being incapable of creating anything on their own. It seems to have been a rather successful strategy from their perspective, seeing how they went from a land of feudal domains to turning into a imperial power that was able to defeat Russia in a just a few decades
>>19040 Japan does not have a-lot of natural resources and historians and archeologists can rarely properly date the time inventions were made. You have a nigger tier brain thinking that someone is ignorant, because they don't have much inventions during their ancient past.
>>19043 Wouldn't China be a better example (supposedly because they achieved the Steel age) although not industral revolution quanity and quality wise with polygamy?
There will not be a violent collapse of the US. Indeed, by a whimper it will fade into irrelevance, although balkanization will not turn swaths of land into pandemonium. It will be even tamer than the Soviet thaw in its last year(s). Although it's dissolution will most likely occur this decade, once the eternal Juden has sucked dry (((Lady Liberty's))) titty.
>>19052 I think ancient and fedual China were mostly monogamous, while the nobility were allowed to hold polygamous relationships. It probably wasn't something like Islam where everyone is allowed to own more than one woman. >There will not be a violent collapse of the US. This. I will never understand why people are expecting weimerica to collapse so soon or ever. This degenerate ass country will continue to remain shithole until dumpf supporters stop being cuckold retards watching PragerU and all the other neocon hacks.
>>19052 I wondered about China, but unfortunately I don't know as much about them as I should. >>19060 Even in Islam it's not that common. To have more than one wife you have to be able to support more than one as well, obviously. Monogamy is by necessity overwhelmingly common in every civilization on the planet. There is simply not enough women for it to be otherwise. Sure, the gender ratio often skews slightly towards women, but not to the extent where every man can own two wives, or more
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Merging of government and corporations into a single power is fascist, so there is nothing wrong with facebook, twitter or google using their internet infrastructure to exercise political power, embrace the now world order, its gonna be fascist.
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>>19081 This is an unpopular opinions thread, you imbecile.
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I hate the siegetard aesthetic, it looks edgy and gay and also hate how it literally has nothing to do with fascism, it just slaps symbols on picture IRA militants with some edgy message. I get that the messages are good, but cannot stand the design.
>>19083 TBF, the IRA's kit is practical, and the IRA themselves, whatever your opinion of what they've become (Sin Feinn faggots), proved that you can indeed force a first world nation to the bargaining table with guerilla warfare. They are, in all honesty, the best working model of a modern paramilitary movement.
>>19087 I know but still hate the aesthetic, I personally also hate the use of the IRA because they were literal Marxist faggots who blew up women and children
>>19082 If this was a real fascist board, unpopular opinion threads wouldn't be permitted.
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>>19082 Just because it's an unpopular opinions thread doesn't mean that you won't get bullied for being a retard. >>19083 >>19088 >>19087 I'm not a fan of the Siege / Atomwaffen aesthetic either, personally. I don't like associating National Socialism with some sort of dark and edgy aesthetic. The biggest redpill when studying National Socialism is realizing that it is the exact opposite of everything edgy or evil. One breaks with the Hollywood stereotypes and realizes that NS truly stands for Nature and life. True National Socialist imagery is much more compelling
>>19089 t. doesn't understand Führerprinzip or Fascist authoritarianism Embarrassing. https://nationalvanguard.org/2020/08/notes-on-the-leadership-principle/
>>19088 I know buddy. Though I myself hold the Commie sympathies against them far more than blowing up women and children. Many of their bombings were pre-announced (ballsy a/f) to reduce potential casualties, though. Of course, many weren't, like the bombings in my hometown, Birmingham, when they set off nailbombs in two pubs. But well. If you don't kill people once in a while, nobody takes you seriously as a terrorist group. And an overabundance of concern for the women and children of your enemy is a categorical weakness.
>>19087 This. Learn from their strategy and tactics, not their politics. >19088 >women and children All nonWhites are combatants. Women birth new adversaries, and kids grow up to be new adversaries.
>And an overabundance of concern for the women and children of your enemy is a categorical weakness. That's the thing, they blew their own women and children
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>>19090 And you won't be considered a retard anymore once you'll learn to back up your opinions with arguments. >tfw libs are more fascist than you
>>19100 The merging of government and corporations into a single power isn't fascist at all. It's closer to communism.
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>>19102 You're wrong.
>>19102 Google, apple, twitter are all private properties, there wouldn't be any such corporations in communism.
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>>19103 Seems to me like they would not last long.
>>19106 I hope so, but leftists think that they are acting upon the best intentions, same as us.
>>19103 No, he's right. They aren't one power, the government always subordinates corporations. Even then, Fascism, as intended by Mussolini, was much different than simply state-capitalism, which is de facto what you described. It implies corporatism, for example, and much more.
>>19109 >They aren't one power What aren't? >the government always subordinates corporations Seems to me that these days its twitter who decides what the president of United States can or can't say, not the other way around. >which is de facto what you described I think you missed my entire argument, perhaps english isn't your first language, but frankly you sound like a skitzo.
>>19110 >What aren't? Government and corporations. >Seems to me that these days its twitter who decides what the president of United States can or can't say, not the other way around. He was talking explicitly in reference to fascism, if I'm not wrong. >I think you missed my entire argument, perhaps english isn't your first language, but frankly you sound like a skitzo. You think that the merger of state and corporate power into one entity is fascism. It's not. What he is saying makes perfect sense.
Stop worshipping the police and military Muricans. Neither are traditional. Both are out to kill anti-ZOG. Both fight for letting Nignogs into your neighborhood.
>>19127 You're preaching to the crowd
>>19090 >Eh it's too edgy >We're not like those Hollywood Nazis I don't get why this board claims paint a sane picture for itself when it has users who want shitskins dead. Like just accept the edgy psychotic personality.
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>>19060 >This. I will never understand why people are expecting weimerica to collapse so soon or ever. This degenerate ass country will continue to remain shithole until dumpf supporters stop being cuckold retards watching PragerU and all the other neocon hacks. The grim reality is, that countries don't collapse rapidly unless there is a revolt or the elite are killed off. That's it. It won't collapse unless Aryan men make it collapse. Sadly, even the literal eunuchs on the left who are injected with large amounts of estrogen seem to have more balls than the American right and White Nationalists, despite the fact the right has more testosterone than the left. I use to think that if you increased the average White man's testosterone from 614-1200 ng/dl, you would get a White chad storming the Synogogue's with machines guns on a weekly basis, driving kikes out of the Occident. Sadly, it would seem that even high test White men can be cucks and cowards. Hell, if some White man just did small scale shit, like burn down minority housing or beat non-Whites in alleyways, we would have had an ethnostate ten years ago. But no, we have to LARP and call any White man who does otherwise a glownigger.
>>19127 Speaking of nignogs, I hear that nigs in the army are like the nigs who don't try to act like regular nigs and try to live a normal life or something?
>>19136 Everything you say is correct. Except the left doesn't really need balls to do anything since they have the backing of the corporations and government, with no risk to their livelihood.
>>19135 Why do you think that taking necessary steps to preserve the existence of our people is edgy or psychotic? It is perfectly sane. >>19137 >muh good niggers
>>19135 You sound like a newfag
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>>19138 What I hate even more are the people on cuckchan who don't act, since they don't wanna lose their video games, expecting us to act, then femininely whine about how much worse everything is, and all of the darkies they have in their neigborhood now. Truth is, if they only stopped posting memes and—I don't know—slashed the car tires of their minority neighbors, or set the darky's house alight, they would fuck off to another state. Mind you, you are almost guaranteed to get away with this kind of shit if you have your phone turned off and are wearing a ski mask. But they don't even do shit like that. I swear, most of the quality poster on 4/pol/ that aren't migapedes or whiny, feminine, niggerpilled faggots are posters from other, entirely different chans or forums. If White nationalists regularly vandalised non-White businesses and homes, killed non-Whites and Jews, or hell killed soft-targets like Tim Wise and Spectre, the Lemmings willl eventually side with us the longer it continues. That is because if the ZOG proves ineffectual at stopping White Nationalists, the masses will eventually side with White Nationalists because ZOG would prove to be the weak horse. There's only one objective form of morality on this Earth, and that's might makes right.
>>19153 >phone can't be tracked when turned off Not sure if naive or glowie Judging by your idea to hare around vandalizing things and attacking random kikes, niggers and irrelevant d-list celebrities, without any sort of organization or overarching plan, and you expect this to win favor in the public eye, I can only assume the latter. Either that or you're not playing with a full deck.
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>>19197 Well, it works if you're just one man in small town with a few niggers. What it does is create an atmosphere of fear in Non-Whites, and accelerates the race war. Because if niggers or spics were the victims of unsolved hate crimes in White areas, they would never set foot in White towns. They would tell their monkey friends not to go there. It is the same reason why liberal Whites don't live in non-White areas. They know that if they went off the tourist resort in Mexico, they'd wake up in a bath tub full of ice missing both kidneys. Either that, or they'd be mutilated. If White terror cells did that, they would leave White areas, and the US will more or less balkanize, if not segregate very heavily again at the very least. Do you think Tim Wise would say those things if he knew there was a risk of him losing his legs in a car bombing? Simple. He wouldn't. And if Barbara Spectre knew she would get mailed back to the Feds piece by piece, she also would keep her Jew maw shut. This is basic 4th generational warfare. It was what the left had used to silence the right for decades now. Communists would bomb right-wingers in the 70s, and them right would cuck out eternally. What happened in the 60s to 70s wasn't peaceful, despite what conservacucks would have you believe. If one were to assassinate both Kamala Harris and Biden on Inauguration day, it would be a suicide mission. Only a select few of the most radical White nationalist with nothing to live for would do such a thing, seeing as how it would be a suicide mission. But however, I can see most White nationalists committing small scale terror campaigns to drive non-Whites out, and this could be don by an individual or a small cell. Besides, we need more Saints. Especially now.
>>19213 1. Only if you're at large long enough across a wide enough area, both of which increase your likelihood of capture. 2. Dead tub-thumpers get lionized, and become even more influential after death, especially if the media tells normalfags that they're martyrs of "diversity" - you would have to kill a lot of people across the country for them to get really scared - they aren't very bright, but they are perfectly confident in their positions of influence. 3. Popping both the incoming pedo in chief and his pet genetic mutant isn't a sure thing, even if you're blessed with the perfect position; and even if you got both, the powers that maneuvered them into that position will lionize them also, HOWEVER, you could trigger a civil war that way, which might be good or bad, depending on how accelerationism pilled you are Personally, as I'm not an American, I don't think I have any right to say whether that would be a good thing or not. It's very easy to be pro-civil war in a country you don't live in.
The DR will never succeed anytime soon since: A. It doesn't have an actual vision of the future, merely retreatism, fantasy of going back to 50s/1776/Medieval Europe. B. Far too sympathetic with modern world. C. Too big of a hotbed for faggots, fatties, lolbergs, Boomers, GOP rejects, etc. D. Is too attached to Americanism or Angloism. Other: A. "Nationalism" is a modern and compromised notion that is not traditonal. It is only sustainable with Globohomo money since its handlers need the globe divided into consoomer zones. It is civic cuckoldry. The elites themselves do not operate like they're floating atoms who have no ties of blood (see Jews around the world protecting Jews). B. Scotland and Ireland are both fake and gay hence both are proud to support Globohomo. C. All of the globe went downhill at Athens. Read the Ancient City for more.
>>18977 >What are you talking about are you just here to ramble and be stupid? The "ethnostate" is a fantasy. WNs have never been able to even take a single square foot of land for it, so threatening people with it is stupid.
>>19448 Manifest Destiny in us history >but those aren't WNs With how immigration policy was set up, the us was very White, and very eager to claim the west for the usa, to manifest their destiny to stand astride an entire continent.
>>19448 An ethnostate is far from a fantasy - it is the state of any healthy group, to protect its own and practice self-determination. While no state explicitly identified itself as an 'ethnostate' in the past to my knowledge, they operated in according to these principles instinctively. It's sad that 'ethnostate' even has to be a term, it should (it is) the natural state of healthy organic societies. The Third Reich is one example of an ethnostate in the modern sense though.
>>19448 There are plenty of ethno states like large swaths of Asia and Africa. If the future is a mixed semitic-latino-mongoloid globe that will be an ethno state too.
>>19448 >Ethnic states are fantasy Listen here kike ethnostate aren't a fantasy and have existed for thousand of years. Faggots like you don't want an ethno-state probably because your swarthy shitskin ass will get purged and turned into a slave. Calling something you don't like "fantasy" is a reach.
>>19446 >B. Far too sympathetic with modern world. >A. It doesn't have an actual vision of the future, merely retreatism Pick one.
The Jews don't do what they do since they're "evil." They do it since it's in their biological place. Like a lion or mosquito. I say this since way too much of the takes on Jews here and in others sounds way too whiny and about muh morals. It was known since the Greeks that ultimately power and your ability to unleash it is the source of all you're entitled to. If the Jews and their allies (Chinese, Anglo elites) really win in the end, then that is just how the order goes.
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>>19569 This is mostly how I see it as well. It's important to avoid moralfaggotry, particularly when you are talking about the way your enemies are acting, since they are not bound by your views. The way Jews work is their personal survival strategy. What they are doing is about as evil as the workings of any other creature in Nature. We have every right to resist though, needless to say.
>>19569 Here are a few posts from the long distant past about this subject.
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>>19569 Prime example in pic related.
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>>19609 Great image, kikes are doing their impression of The fucking Thing in real life. Working class Whites are being replaced with shitskins while High-Class Whites are being replaced with jews. It's fucking disgusting. It's almost like a movie script: >What happened to all the White men and women of this country?!?! <What do you mean White people? We've always been a jewish country. Join us brother 0v0 https://thething.fandom.com/wiki/The_Thing_(Organism) "The Thing is an extremely hostile shape-shifting extraterrestrial organism and the primary antagonist of the 1982 science-fiction film The Thing, its prequel, video-games and literature. The Thing has the ability to assimilate other life forms in order to survive and spread. The original physical characteristics of The Thing and its motivations are unknown as it could have assimilated hundreds if not thousands of other species before it crashed on Earth." Little did I know The Thing was a documentary on kikes and not just a sci-fi horror movie. I just hope we can kill The Thing before it replaces all of us.
>>19609 More on kike mimicry.
>>19569 >The Jews don't do what they do since they're "evil." They do it since it's in their biological place. Like a lion or mosquito. I say this since way too much of the takes on Jews here and in others sounds way too whiny and about muh morals. It was known since the Greeks that ultimately power and your ability to unleash it is the source of all you're entitled to. If the Jews and their allies (Chinese, Anglo elites) really win in the end, then that is just how the order goes. No. A moral stance is necessary because it's the immoral actions (to us) of the jew that generate the disgust and hatred necessary for taking the steps expunge them from our midst one and for all. They are our destroyer, self-admittedly.
>>19624 A moral stance is definitely a part of this struggle, but for it not to be self-defeating bluster, we must realize what exactly morality is and what its purpose is. From this, a proper White morality (emphasis on White, I am not referring to universality) can be discerned, followed and applied.
All prims/anprims/fascprims are moralfags who have no real loyalty to their genome. Hence praising James Cameron's (a "male feminist" who reguritates worn out Marxist fantasies of "class warfare" who hates far less rich Whites) slop (where a White cuck miscegenates and abandons his kind). >>19624 Oh please. "Morals" do not shape reality. Reality shapes morals. You sound one of those fags who thinks if he cries about the Sandniggers getting killed off by Israel/Chinks loud enough he'll convince all the non-Euros to side with him rather than hate him (even though non-Euros will just say you didn't respect their lands so they don't have to respect yours). >>19626 Hitler didn't make appeals with morals against Jews in his own writings
>>19631 >Hitler didn't make appeals with morals against Jews in his own writings. Hitler understood what morals were. Survival behavior above the level of the individual. >All prims/anprims/fascprims are moralfags who have no real loyalty to their genome. [citation needed] >Hence praising James Cameron's (a "male feminist" who reguritates worn out Marxist fantasies of "class warfare" who hates far less rich Whites) slop (where a White cuck miscegenates and abandons his kind). It has already been explained how the film is unintentionally redpilled. You are just a brainlet who cannot but take everything 100% literally. Pandora is a vision of what Earth could be or could have been. Jake abandoning his human body permanently for the Na'vi body was fundamentally him taking the redpill and rejecting the kiked humanity who had destroyed their own planet and were now leaping around to different planets like jews and stealing their resources. The kiked, materialistic, bluepilled humans of the film were the ones instigating the 'class-warfare' - if it could be called that, while the Na'vi (alternate humanity that had not jewed itself) lived in harmony with the planet, balancing the unavoidable eternal struggle of Nature with harmony with the environment. Even if James Cameron did not intend for this to be the message, it came through.
>>19632 >Oh please. "Morals" do not shape reality. Reality shapes morals. You sound one of those fags who thinks if he cries about the Sandniggers getting killed off by Israel/Chinks loud enough he'll convince all the non-Euros to side with him rather than hate him (even though non-Euros will just say you didn't respect their lands so they don't have to respect yours). I don't think you understand what "morals" I am speaking of. I don't give a shit about non-Whites siding with us, if one group wants to form an alliance with us that is a different topic. Morals for OUR cause are imperative though; taking the moral stance against world jewry are a necessity. We must NEVER apply morals or honor directly to our enemy as a means of humanizing him, only to keep these traits among ourselves to bolster morale and discipline. I believe we should take a page from the communists and do whatever is necessary to accomplish our goals of getting rid of the kike infection, moral or not. You cannot apply honor to an immoral enemy who will likewise do whatever it takes to win, we must fight the jew on their own terms. An eye for an eye, and larger terror in response to terror, that is the only way. 1933 tactics and honor will not work, and have not worked when the enemy will lie through his teeth about your actions regardless of whether they are good or bad.
>>19633 >[citation needed] It's obvious enough. You even talking about muh harmony with nature just shows you don't actually have your genome's interests first. The Amish will be relegated to history books, and Chinese eugenicists will write them. An Aryan is not a "hunter-gather" who lives in “harmony” with "nature", he’s a composer, inaugurator, and architect of the future. >It has already been explained how the film is unintentionally redpilled. Tell us more on how letting a woman lead and not be married off already is redpilled. >You are just a brainlet who cannot but take everything 100% literally. Pandora is a vision of what Earth could be or could have been. So cuck fantasy. The majority of life that has ever been is extinct. You putting others outside of their genome, even when framing it as appeals to muh nature is cuckoldry. >Jake abandoning his human body permanently for the Na'vi body was fundamentally him taking the redpill and rejecting the kiked humanity who had destroyed their own planet and were now leaping around to different planets like jews and stealing their resources. The universe is zero-sum. "Stealing resources" you sound like a Leftoid. >The kiked, materialistic, bluepilled humans of the film were the ones instigating the 'class-warfare' - Doesn't matter. They were Jake's kind. You are to be unconditionally loyal to your genome, otherwise you're a cuck. > if it could be called that, while the Na'vi (alternate humanity that had not jewed itself) lived in harmony with the planet, balancing the unavoidable eternal struggle of Nature with harmony with the environment. >he thinks noble savages are real They're just noble savage shitskins made for furries. They only didn't get exterminated/dominated since the Whites acted like cucks and the Muds had magic powers (aka work around the obvious disadvantages of being a noble savage). Also, there are no relevant and non-impotent lands alive that avoided using more tech when they had the option. Even the noble savages in the Americas used the White Man's stuff in wars against other Muds. What cucks like you fail to grasp is that the universe is zero-sum. There can be no "harmony" since if you aren't dominating and wiping out something/someone else is. You, like Cameron, are a genomic traitor who hates his own (while obviously keeping his wealth and access to Western/White inventions).
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>>19635 >It's obvious enough. You even talking about muh harmony with nature just shows you don't actually have your genome's interests first. Implying that harmony with Nature isn't the condition for the long term prosperity of our people in the first place. >The Amish will be relegated to history books, and Chinese eugenicists will write them. Selection favors those societies which, in the short term, were able more-rigorously organize and collectivize themselves, especially with technology. Might is right, etc. This is what happened with Europeans against almost every other group of humans on the planet. However, what is effective in the short-term may be self-defeating in the long-term, as our current system most certainly is. Kaczynski addresses this in his Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How. >The majority of life that has ever been is extinct Top kek if you think the majority of this life died off in some sort of Ragnar Redbeard-tier struggle for existence. Most of time there is a great balance in ecosystems, because if any one part oversteps its boundaries the part itself pays the price, and the entire system is damaged. >Doesn't matter. They were Jake's kind. You are to be unconditionally loyal to your genome, otherwise you're a cuck. I already explained how this is a blue-pilled, surface-level reading of the film. >There can be no "harmony" since if you aren't dominating and wiping out something/someone else is Nature isn't merely struggle. You are very bluepilled if you believe this. Nature is a complex interplay of struggle and harmony. If you ignore one, you are viewing it from only one angle. It's the classic story of the blind men and the elephant. In fact your very body is nothing more than the harmonious interaction of billions of cells functioning as a unit, and among groups of closely-related humans there is also harmonious relationships quite often. Bees live in harmony among themselves to such an extent that they are sometimes described as superorganismic. While trees and similar plants compete for space and light, there is also great harmony and symbiosis among trees due to mycorrihzal networks consisting of connections between fungi and trees, where trees and fungi share resources and nutrients among themselves. 90% of plants rely on this harmonious symbiosis.
>>19638 >Bob Fish Jew. > Implying that harmony with Nature isn't the condition for the long term prosperity of our people in the first place. Not really. None of the groups which have dominated and continue to dominate have sincerely placed outsiders (be they Niggers or muh trees) ahead of themselves. At least absent of subversive ideologies. >Selection favors those societies which, in the short term, were able more-rigorously organize and collectivize themselves, especially with technology. Might is right, etc. This is what happened with Europeans against almost every other group of humans on the planet. However, what is effective in the short-term may be self-defeating in the long-term, as our current system most certainly is. Kaczynski addresses this in his Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How. "Anti-civilizationalism", Varg's babble, etc is nothing other than Neoluddism. It will simply accelerate the ineluctable process of the West being usurped by the likes of China and its eventual status as a subordinate vassal state. It doesn’t help Europeans avoid being dominated or wiped out at all. All "ecoism" is a manifestation of maladaptive behavior. Placing the interests of distant genetic clusters (be they Redskins or animals or trees) above your own is maladaptive. Any such group would and will be wiped out. >Top kek if you think the majority of this life died off in some sort of Ragnar Redbeard-tier struggle for existence. Most of time there is a great balance in ecosystems, because if any one part oversteps its boundaries the part itself pays the price, and the entire system is damaged. Yeah, no, none of what you posted is actually what traditional and successful (read: not impotent and irrelevant spear chuckers) societies saw the world. The Greeks alone saw Gaia as the mother of many monsters. You are merely saying what post-Abrahamized modern societies see the world (as a land of niceness corrupted by outsiders be they Satan or the White Man or "Humanity"). >I already explained how this is a blue-pilled, surface-level reading of the film. Tell us more on siding with another race and being accepted among them is totally not cucked. Also, said shitskins allow women to rule them and not be married off. You don't get to pick your heritage. You are born White or "Human" so you will aid the White Man/"Humanity." Doing otherwise is working against your genetic cluster. James Cameron is surely a faggot and/or a muh diker using feminism (like other Euros males who support feminism) by the way. >There can be no "harmony" since if you aren't dominating and wiping out something/someone else is Nature isn't merely struggle. You are very bluepilled if you believe this. Nature is a complex interplay of struggle and harmony. If you ignore one, you are viewing it from only one angle. It's the classic story of the blind men and the elephant. In fact your very body is nothing more than the harmonious interaction of billions of cells functioning as a unit, and among groups of closely-related humans there is also harmonious relationships quite often. Bees live in harmony among themselves to such an extent that they are sometimes described as superorganismic. While trees and similar plants compete for space and light, there is also great harmony and symbiosis among trees due to mycorrihzal networks consisting of connections between fungi and trees, where trees and fungi share resources and nutrients among themselves. 90% of plants rely on this harmonious symbiosis. Yawn. Even fishes fight each-other for resources. Bunnies will eat all grass in sight absent of predators. Wolves have territories and chase off other wolves. The trees and fungi only aid each-other since it serves their bio interests and nothing more, since fungi are toxic to consume. https://twitter.com/thuletide/status/1350107730342719488 https://twitter.com/thuletide/status/1350110098904002560
You will never have your noble savage paradise since muh hunt gathers are extinct overall and Whites refusing to dominate using tech will just be eaten by the Chinks.
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There's actually not a large gap from siding with muh nature and siding with shitskins.
>>19643 >Not really. None of the groups which have dominated and continue to dominate have sincerely placed outsiders (be they Niggers or muh trees) ahead of themselves. At least absent of subversive ideologies. 'Ahead of themselves' - again, you are too low IQ to understand the larger point that we are reliant on the well-being of the world around us and that their (animals and the larger ecosystem) welfare and health affects our own welfare and health. >"Anti-civilizationalism", Varg's babble, etc is nothing other than Neoluddism. It will simply accelerate the ineluctable process of the West being usurped by the likes of China and its eventual status as a subordinate vassal state. It doesn’t help Europeans avoid being dominated or wiped out at all. You didn't even address the point, and I have not claimed to be "anti-civilizational" or a luddite in whatever sense you are talking about. >All "ecoism" is a manifestation of maladaptive behavior. Placing the interests of distant genetic clusters (be they Redskins or animals or trees) above your own is maladaptive. Any such group would and will be wiped out. All "industrialism" is a manifestation of maladaptive behavior. Destroying the very basis of your livelihood (by it the land, resources or trees), and the livelihood of your descendents for the sake of Star Trek LARPing and consumerism is maladaptive. Any such group would and will be wiped out. >You are merely saying what post-Abrahamized modern societies see the world (as a land of niceness corrupted by outsiders be they Satan or the White Man or "Humanity"). Another swing and miss, my friend. Ironically, by saying that my view is post-Abrahamic, you apply an extremely Abrahamic coloring to the post-Abrahamic interpretation by implying that I view the world as corrupted by outsiders or something that can be considered evil. Man is an integral part of living Nature, not something external. Get out of here with this Jewish mindset. As Hitler was recorded saying in Christa Schroeder's 'He Was My Chief', "We are a limb of Creation and children of Nature and the same laws apply to us as they do all living beings". What we witness today is know more than one limb becoming a tumorous growth to the expense of the rest of life on Earth, disrupting a synergistic and complex system that we are apart of and have long denied due to Jewish fairytales. >Tell us more on siding with another race and being accepted among them is totally not cucked. Also, said shitskins allow women to rule them and not be married off. I already explained how this is a blue-pilled, surface-level reading of the film. >You don't get to pick your heritage. You are born White or "Human" so you will aid the White Man/"Humanity." Doing otherwise is working against your genetic cluster. Did I say that one could pick their heritage? Obviously you are fundamentally yourself and nothing else. Your entire strategy for preserving our people, however, is fundamentally short-sighted and flawed. >James Cameron is surely a faggot and/or a muh diker using feminism (like other Euros males who support feminism) by the way. Don't care, irrelevant. >Thuletide tweets If you had read what I wrote, you would realize that these do not conflict with what I have sad in the slightest. >>19644 Varg is a placenta-obsessed cuck. Shitskins were conquered - might is right. Whites strive for their own subjective interests and only universalistic faggots would say that this is bad. Still doesn't mean that we should shit up everything else to our own detriment
>>19646 >'Ahead of themselves' - again, you are too low IQ to understand the larger point that we are reliant on the well-being of the world around us and that their (animals and the larger ecosystem) welfare and health affects our own welfare and health. They only matter insofar they can serve. Otherwise kill them. >All "industrialism" is a manifestation of maladaptive behavior. Destroying the very basis of your livelihood (by it the land, resources or trees), and the livelihood of your descendents for the sake of Star Trek LARPing and consumerism is maladaptive. Any such group would and will be wiped out. Who said anything about woke shit like Star Trek? And obviously not for the rest since both the Jews and Chinamen use industrial tech while preserving themselves well. >Another swing and miss, my friend. Ironically, by saying that my view is post-Abrahamic, you apply an extremely Abrahamic coloring to the post-Abrahamic interpretation by implying that I view the world as corrupted by outsiders or something that can be considered evil. Man is an integral part of living Nature, not something external. Get out of here with this Jewish mindset. As Hitler was recorded saying in Christa Schroeder's 'He Was My Chief', "We are a limb of Creation and children of Nature and the same laws apply to us as they do all living beings". What we witness today is know more than one limb becoming a tumorous growth to the expense of the rest of life on Earth, disrupting a synergistic and complex system that we are apart of and have long denied due to Jewish fairytales. Go name a single time Hitler advocated for avoiding industrial tech and not using it when he could. Doesn't counter what I said on the Greeks either (ever notice how they saw Gaia as a figure to be feared who births monsters). What cucks like you fail to accept is that the Industrial Revolution belongs to the Euro Man and is as much part of his heritage as being in a mudhut. You refusing to use it, especially when Kikes and Chinks have embraced it enough to ensure dominance is just running away. >I already explained how this is a blue-pilled, surface-level reading of the film. Did they or did they not allow women to lead and not be shoved into marriage. And was Jake one of them by birth and not by joining them out of treason. >Did I say that one could pick their heritage? Obviously you are fundamentally yourself and nothing else. Your entire strategy for preserving our people, however, is fundamentally short-sighted and flawed. It's winning. Yours is not. Go run to your mudhut. I'm sure you can ask the Chinks nicely to live on a reservation.
>>19646 >Shitskins were conquered - might is right. Whites strive for their own subjective interests and only universalistic faggots would say that this is bad. Still doesn't mean that we should shit up everything else to our own detriment Except given our current population numbers it is downright stupid to think that ethnoglobe is a viability right now. Even dumber to openly talk about it when we could use any alliance with any group we can get to deal with the jew problem first.
>>19650 You're not going to find any non-Whites who hate Jews more than they hate Whites. Niggers, Beaners, etc. benefit from Globohomo (access to White women, taking the White Man's stuff, living in his territory) more than they do from siding with Whites. And you know, Colonialism. https://thuletide.wordpress.com/2020/08/16/a-critique-of-modern-nationalism/ >Man is brutal. Oppression and war are inevitable. For your side to win, others must lose. Natural order and hierarchy apply to man and man, just as much as they apply to lion and gazelle. Apparently, these basic Right-Wing beliefs have been all but abandoned among the wignats. >The national identities of certain modern ethnic groups are based almost entirely upon crying about getting owned — e.g., the Polish, the Kurds, the Irish, the other guys (you know the ones). Their status as victims has reached almost mythological levels (literally mythological, in some cases). It’s completely unhealthy for a nation to view itself this way. Nobody truly respects people who whine about getting dunked on because nobody truly respects weakness, and the wignats’ moral framework and rhetoric exudes weakness. Which brings me to my next point…
>>19650 Ethnoglobe only becomes viable if several major White nations free themselves from the grip of the Jew and are able to operate in concert. I have to largely agree with what >>19651 said in the beginning of his post though - I simply don't think that non-Whites have much to gain from overthrowing the Jews. The reason non-Whites have fallen into the grip of the Jew in the first place is because they are creatures who operate on resentment, envy and hatred of Whites. >>19649 >And obviously not for the rest since both the Jews and Chinamen use industrial tech while preserving themselves well. As I said in an earlier post (>>19638): "Selection favors those societies which, in the short term, were able more-rigorously organize and collectivize themselves, especially with technology. Might is right, etc. This is what happened with Europeans against almost every other group of humans on the planet. However, what is effective in the short-term may be self-defeating in the long-term, as our current system most certainly is. Kaczynski addresses this in his Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How." Jews are particularly stupid in this regard. Funnily enough even Hitler pointed out in his steps chronicling the development of the Jewish infection that the final step of the infestation is the Jew destroying himself. All they care about is power and money, and it is their doom. >Go name a single time Hitler advocated for avoiding industrial tech and not using it when he could. Quoting from Hitler does not mean that I agree with Hitler on each and every single issue. >Doesn't counter what I said on the Greeks either (ever notice how they saw Gaia as a figure to be feared who births monsters). I didn't feel a need to counter this. Nature is impassive and cruel in the face of great suffering, death and destruction each and every single day (I say this in a solely descriptive sense, not in a "wahh there is so much suffering and it makes me feel sad!"-type way. It is just the way things are.) and is better grouped under the term "sublime" than anything else. If anything you are saying that the Greeks had a much more accurate conception of the Earth than any other people. >Did they or did they not allow women to lead and not be shoved into marriage. And was Jake one of them by birth and not by joining them out of treason. I already explained how this is a blue-pilled, surface-level reading of the film. >It's winning. Yours is not. Already addressed this at least three times.
>>19652 >Jews are particularly stupid in this regard. Funnily enough even Hitler pointed out in his steps chronicling the development of the Jewish infection that the final step of the infestation is the Jew destroying himself. All they care about is power and money, and it is their doom. They're not. That's just you coping. >I already explained how this is a blue-pilled, surface-level reading of the film. You're just a overgrown child trying to excuse himself watching capeshit. Name a single successful society that operated like the furries in the movie. >Already addressed this at least three times. Not really.
>>19650 >we could use any alliance with any group we can get Yes burrito and pajeet will ally with us to defeat the jew... any day now.
>>19651 >You're not going to find any non-Whites who hate Jews more than they hate Whites. And what of the Japs? The Koreans? The jews are fucking up their nations as we speak. Surely they will come to realize the problem once the half jew, half asian offspring start infiltrating their institutions.
>>19653 >They're not. That's just you coping. "in this regard" Looks like you are running out of wind, buddy
>>19655 The nips already allied with us in WWII and are/were considered "honorary aryan". If (huge if) they wake up to the jew menace and combat them, national socialists are already on good terms with them anyways so you are mostly blubbering about a non-issue.
>>19655 South Koreans and Japs are degenerate impotent puppets whose women are violated by ZOG troops. They hate Whitey too, their leaders are pawns. >>19656 Return to your mudhuts in your reservation.
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>>19659 >Return to your mudhuts in your reservation.
>>19660 >Jew >lolberg
>>19659 >South Koreans and Japs are degenerate impotent puppets whose women are violated by ZOG troops. They hate Whitey too, their leaders are pawns They are in the exact same boat as us. Both countries have turned the men into vice addicted drop outs unable to compete in their own societies very well. Foreigners are stealing their women and there is fuck all they can do about it. Our situations are nearly identical, only the timeframe is different because we are further along the way to death.
>>19662 It was White Cucks who bombed their land and made them act like cucks. Even if this fantasy of all the Gooks suddenly fghting against Globohomo happened they'd just be pinpointed against Whites, not Jews. Not that it'll happen. China will just dab on the other Gooks once Murica becomes too fat and mongrelized.
>>19664 >It was White Cucks who bombed their land and made them act like cucks. Even if this fantasy of all the Gooks suddenly fghting against Globohomo happened they'd just be pinpointed against Whites, not Jews. No it was Jews who bombed their land you idiot. The US government was jewed since at least 1912 with Wilson, and the atom bomb was developed by jews. Christianity is the poison that has shaped Korea into what it is today, just as it has done to the West long ago, and Christianity is a JEWISH slave religion. It is the prototype and the softener that allows for Marxism to take hold.
>>19665 Tell us more on how there wasn't an army of White Cucks.
>>19666 He is right that Christcuckery had been infecting Korea even back in the time when Japan colonized them though
>>19666 They weren't White cucks you retard, they were tricked and lied to about NS Germany. Hitler had a-lot of Whites in the West who adored him for his actions agaisnt international Jewry and communism, as matter of fact he was so beloved that the US government had to miraculous kill important and powerful people who supported him to stop him his influence from overthrowing the current US government. If I'm correct the US Army/marines had a poll where most Americans themselves said that they would rather betray their country and side with Germany than help Western powers destroy NS. Even after the war the retards who declared war agaisnt Germany after the last second showed regret of just realizing what they had done.
>>19651 Are you the thuletide, the faggot weeb who actually thinks that the British Empire or most European empires sought to protect Whites? All your posts are doing is showing how pointy your nose considering you're selling to shill kike tech and talking just like one. Futurism is Judaic, you can shill this retarded ism on cuckchan /pol/, but you're not selling it on here, but only proving that there are too many non-Whites in our movements telling us what we should and shouldn't do.
>>19684 >Too many non-Whites They shouldn't be in the movement, it's Whites only. But I personally think no one loses if anyone regardless of race learns the JQ and other redpill.
>>19653 >They're not. That's just you coping Nice counter-argument Jew, but the kikes are indeed very self-destructive, they're so self-destructive and weak that they literally need technology to ever win wars and foreign powers that they infected with their Judaic bullshit to turn morons into today's boomers. In America you can see obviously see what I'm talking about, because the kikes are destroying their own bloodline and families by race-mixing with niggers and coming out as homosexuals, which is something they only do very often. Even in Israel you can see this where sodomy is protected and all types of degeneracy is legal other than them restricting intermarriages. I can't imagine being so retarded and wanting a Star Trek LARP so bad that you need to defend the kikes and lie about them being OP, because muh IQ or some dumb shit. The sole reason why kikes are so powerful is because of civilization and it's dependancy on resources and shekels. Jews were able to prosper at this because of the Torah encouraging itor enforcing it. This prosperity came from kingdoms and Empires from Rome to England needing more economic power, just so they can take another piece of land and their nobility can bath in gold to show off. There has never been a civilization other than what the the myths, that doesn't harm/destroy environments and nature's creatures, truly structure around the natural order, and established a nation where the state and her ethnic citizens are in joint union without the need of democracy, because all it does is go in the reverse due to civilization's need to obtain power and the best way to do that is by being anti-nature. Civilization does not breed and create strong men, but safety and security for the weak, so they can prosper and be told that they are strong not by attributes, but by the size of their wealth, which fits perfectly for Jews. When had there ever been a civilization that was ever pro-Aryan other than NS Germany, because even Germany is probably the closet we are going to get at attempts to Aryanize civilization.
>>19684 >being against empires Cuck. >>19688 You will never find an example of inferior cultures winning wars of ofextermination/dominance. Ever wonder how come Europeans aren't HGs? They were conquered and bred away. Let alone the destruction of the Redskins.
>>19694 >cuck I don't see how am I cuck dumbass when empires literally cucked themselves out by injecting liberalism and all forms of self-destructiveness. Only a retard who think despising the British Empire, an empire friendly to Jews and cared little for its own people is cuckoldry as matter of fact admiring these empires is indeed cuckoldry considering they fucked over Europe. There has never been an empire that designed itself to put Whites everywhere merely to rule and dominate others, but to serve their banks and guilds and only making Whites powerful outside of having economic and political privilege. >You will never find an example of inferior cultures winning wars of ofextermination/dominance. Thulide you're a fucking idiot, in the end these empires also betrayed Europeans and cucked out in the end. You're making it seem as if Europeans needed civilization and empires to defeat non-Whites and making us seem to be weak, now that's cuck mentality right there and isn't true whatsoever. If Whites rely only on tech to do all the work for them then they are better off as the Romans during the Empire or slave making ants. >Ever wonder how come Europeans aren't HGs? Have you ever come to realize that HGs aren't stupid or weak? Especially compared to you or any other modern man, HGs still have a better lifestyle and diet than we do today and were way more physically fit. Europeans got out of their HG stage from foreigners invading and trying to destroy us, but fortunately enough the HGs won, again cuck mentality, because the HGs became farmers from intermixing with non-native pop.
>>19695 > Have you ever come to realize that HGs aren't stupid or weak? Especially compared to you or any other modern man, HGs still have a better lifestyle and diet than we do today and were way more fit. They were wiped out around the world or driven to the margins. >Europeans got out of their HG stage from foreigners invading and trying to destroy us, but fortunately enough the HGs won, again cuck mentality, because the HGs became farmers from intermixing with non-native pop. Lay off the Varg babble. Euro y haplogroups by large aren't from HGs. They belong to the Steppe hordes who killed off the local males and took the females.
>>19684 I hadn't consider this, but you are right that it is likely Thuletide, given how he has used his tweets multiple times as "arguments".
>>19702 >They were wiped out around the world or driven to the margins They were wiped because they couldn't deal with the massive over population and fortifications that farmers cucks hid behind. You're still being biased against HGs and not understanding how farming is one of the worst things to happened to Europe. >Lay off the Varg babble. >MUH VARG >Euro y haplogroups by large aren't from HGs. You're such a dumbass it isn't even funny, all Euro haolgroups originate from HGs, R1a and R1b came from a HG and some have even said to be in Europe as a HG before the Indo-European invasions. Haplogroup I and C are also native to Europe and originated from HGs, you're not even arguing in good faith, but being incredibly retarded and not realizing that haplos such as J and E are foreign and not Euro in origin being here first rapefugees. >They belong to the Steppe hordes who killed off the local males and took the females. They belong to both indigenous and steppe hordes you retard. Steppe pastoralists are still European and probably originated in Europe as well. Being okay with indigenous Euro haplogroup dying out is equivalent to being okay with White genocide. This is your brain on anime and christcuckery, after all the fighting agaisnt the alt-cuck you come and end up being a cuck as well. There really are no true fascist on the internet especially those who love being on Twatter.
Look at these ugly things, clearly the handiworks of antifa. No proper fascist would ever have anything to do with them.
>>19725 Absolutely seething
Why can't we combine the ideas from kaczinsky and archeo-futurism? Technology is advanced but Whites do not need it and common folk rarely use it and all cities are to be made to preserve and cause minimal to no damage towards environments? A combination of futurism, green and spiritulaism into one blend sounds something preferable.
>>19737 The real redpill is that most people here are already archeo-futurists of some shade pilpuling each other depending on what side they put more emphasis on
>>19737 Sort of what Singapore is doing. Not saying Singapore is totally eco fascist. (Mentioned this in another thread some time back)
The White Race will mass die off and that's fine. It's nature's way. Accept much it is beyond salvaging. It's good if the Uncle Toms and lolbergs are prevented from reproducing or get mongrelized away. "Redpilling" muh normies is Anti-Darwinian. Speaking of which, the DR never succeeding roots in part from never really accepting what Darwin's work means. Much of it is still practically Abrahamic in engaging with the universe. There is NO way to frame a rejection of Globohomo "values" without using Darwin's work in this post-industrial world. A minority of Euros needs to ally itself with China or its sphere of domiance to subvert ZOG. All successful revolutions either were backed by local elites or used by foreign ones. MUCH of European history from Socrates and Co. onward is a mistake. Read The Ancient City for more.
>>19961 > "Redpilling" muh normies is Anti-Darwinian. How? >A minority of Euros needs to ally itself with China or its sphere of domiance to subvert ZOG Ally with ZOG to subvert ZOG?
>>19962 >How? Genetic dead ends and traitors need to be purged. And more importantly, it's ridiculous to believe there will ever be a mass "awakening" as long as the post industrial world is in the hands of traitors and Abrahamics by blood. US troops shoved Nignogs into schools, there was no real campaigns against ZOG. The world gets gayer and nigger, yet no one has a movement bigger than Cuckservativism. To cancel Globohomo, a vanguard is needed. >Ally with ZOG to subvert ZOG? The Chinamen in charge know well on Jews. They cooperate with them to advance their bio interests, but are not loyal to them. Again for a revolution to succeed it needs elite support or foreign backing. The DR has neither with no better options for the latter than China.
>>19967 People can wake up, I have seen it happen, both to myself, of course, and I have instigated awakenings in others as well that I know in real life. Having said this, however, a mass awakening is something that will never happen, and I don't think has ever really happened in history. It is always small groups who rouse small numbers of people to fight against the established systems. The vast majority of the population are simply dead weight to be moved around or distracted by the stronger depending on what is beneficial to them at any given time. So to think that redpilling alone is going to save the world or something is delusional, but to not redpill normalfags also is shortsighted, because one could be creating valuable companions, or people who will go out and redpill people independently of yourself. I have seen this happen as well, and was very surprised the first time that I was told about it. >The Chinamen in charge know well on Jews. They cooperate with them to advance their bio interests, but are not loyal to them. I bet White men thought the same thing when they were borrowing money from kikes back in the day prior to the great Jewish infestation really accelerating. Let me tell you, the kikes have no idea what is coming.
>>19969 >he kikes have no idea what is coming. *chinks
>>19967 We are not the Dissident Right, so why is anyone arguing with you? The Dissident Right, are whole-heartedly Reactionaries, and will be swept aside like the chaff they are, we will see victory for our cause because our cause is the only cause, Bequeathed to us by the Black Sun, by the First Cause, by the Supreme Force of the Universe, and shared with us by our gods! Have no hope, only a fool hopes. This is not a cause for hope, hope is the greatest evil the universe has ever had in it, why else would it have been the last thing in Pandora's Box?
>>19969 Chinamen have none of what allowed Jews to be within Euro societies. No history of willingly using racial outsiders for usury. Far more cohesive racially. Jews are far more biologically distant so they cannot try to infiltrate. They have a far lower record of universalism than Euros. The Chinese will sooner or later go to war with ZOG. They merely have to bide their time until demographics ensure China is able to safely maintain their holdings. Chinamen have no real interest in healing muh world.
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>>19981 >Jews are far more biologically distant so they cannot try to infiltrate They already are infiltrating. If one merely looks up 'Chinese Jewish intermarriage' they will see that this is a new trend in the Jewish community that sociologists are beginning to take notice of. They are the eternal mimic and will willingly racemix to blend in as much as possible while still remaining distinct at their core. Jews have already lived in China for centuries, one merely has to look up "Kaifeng Jews" to see how long they have truly had their claws in parts of China. On top of this, it has been observed by some historians such as Jacques Gernet that Chinese thought itself was very amenable to Marxism (and thus Jewish thought at large): >Numerous affinities probably explain the attraction very quickly exerted in China by Marxism. In its negation of any transcendental reality it seemed to link up with one of the constants in Chinese thinking. The theory of five stages, which, through the workings of a socio-economic dialectic, lead humanity from primitive communism to the socialism of the future, recalled the eschatalogical visions of the 'great harmony' (ta-t'ung) of the school of Kung-yang, given lustre by K'ang Yu-wei, whose epoch was not so far in the past. [...] >The abolition of private property, put into practice by the T'ai P'ing in the middle of the nineteenth century, corresponded to the deepest aspirations of the Chinese revolutionary tradition and linked up with certain older 'statist' traditions. Marxism seemed to be in harmony with certain tendencies of Chinese thought. China is just the new "big bad" controlled opposition power put forward by the Jews of the West to operate their grand Hegelian dialectic strategy on the world for JWO. China does nothing fundamentally against ZOG. They are capitalistic, materialistic, atheistic, Marxist, etc. They will be flooded with niggers before the end of the centuries, as is already beginning to happen. One can say that "BUT THEY DON'T LIKE THE NIGGERS" - well neither did Westerners a hundred years ago. Jews will make them love niggers.
>>19981 China is ZOG, they too have a central bank and it too is owned by Rothschilds. Take your insidious pro-Chinese delusions elsewhere. Only ONE thing will happen to China, and it's disgusting subhuman population. Pierce describes it in The Turner Diaries, anything less, and I will personally hunt down every one of you who spoke out in favor of China on any board populated by National Socialists.
>>19961 >The White Race will mass die off and that's fine. It's nature's way. Accept much it is beyond salvaging No it won't you're either a cuck or kike believing in this stupid myth that the White race will die out. As if the Chink shilling along with your IP hopping (1)s wasn't clear enough. Go away. >"Redpilling" muh normies is Anti-Darwinian >normies >Anti-darwinian Ah I see, never mind I think we found a CIA nigger here BO or maybe some type of shill.
>>19988 I’m not sure. The main ID appears to be 2432b0, which goes back ITT over two weeks to January 4th, and not all of the posts are ‘bad’ per se (i.e. they are innocuous and don’t stand out). There seems to be no real attempt to pretend to be a different person to fool us either—or if there is, there’s no real effort in it, given how even under the different IDs the same abbreviations such as “DR” are used, which I do not usually see others use. It would be one thing if there were obvious samefagging, but sometimes IDs are weird and change for various reasons. This isn’t to say I agree with what he’s saying, especially about Chinks or Whites dying off en masse. I’ll keep tabs on it, regardless Maybe I give too much benefit of the doubt. We’ll see
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>>19989 >Whites and chinks dying off en masse >Chinks dying off enmass Shouldn't you be celebrating?
>>19991 I see how you read it like that kek. I meant it like this: >especially about Chinks [or Whites dying off en masse.] rather than >especially about [Chinks or Whites dying off en masse.]
Even though any media is jew pozz, I still think that TV before 2010 was alright. E.g. Futurama and Sopranos.
>>18433 The crucial point that most people miss is that in a patriarchy, you have to be a *patriarch*; ie a strong man. It's not just telling women to blow you whenever you want and beathing them when the dishes aren't done. You have to be a dependable, respectable head of the household, and then the law takes over from there. The word "Patriarchy" technically means "ruled by fathers", not men.
I agree with Goebbels about moralfags. >Every revolution has its mistakes, ours too. That is not in itself bad, since they mostly disappear on their own or with time. The important thing is that those in charge keep their eyes open and do not remain silent when they ought to speak out of fear of the public. Obviously, an historic revolution of vast extent brings a mass of nonsense to light along with its enormous benefits. >It becomes dangerous only when the nonsense is left to grow, thus hemming in and strangling the healthy, organic development of the revolution. >It is time today to expose some of this nonsense that has accompanied the National Socialist revolution to the full light of day, to examine it without pity. >That is even more necessary, since otherwise some of this nonsense over time may gradually corrupt the style and nature of our revolution, leaving to posterity an image of our nature and goals that in no way corresponds to National Socialist convictions and views. >Certainly there is need for public regulation of the great moral foundations of our national life. However, some nonsense is also spreading that attempts to reach beyond that to establish a code for the purely personal conduct of individuals. >That leads eventually to a moralism that is everything other than National Socialist. >Peculiar people whose life is either behind them, or have no right to have one ahead of them, preach moralism in the name of our revolution. This moralism often has nothing in common with true morality. They proclaim ethical laws that might be appropriate for a nunnery, but are entirely out of place in a modern cultural state. >An example. In a major central German city an advertising poster for a soap company showed a fresh, attractive girl holding the soap package in her hands. A moral knight who unfortunately had the right to determine the fate of this poster forbade its distribution on the ground that it offended the moral sensibilities of the population, since the woman in the poster was holding the soap in a place “that for moral reasons cannot be described more precisely.” >What is moral about this? The person announcing the ban, who presumes that other people share his dirty fantasies, or the German people and the National Socialist movement, that are rightly upset and in opposition to such a ridiculous action? >Things have gone so far that this company of moralists does not stop at the borders of private life. They would love to establish purity committees in cities and the countryside that would keep on eye on Müller’s and Schulze’s love and marriage life. It is true that they do not want to go so far as to ban kissing altogehter, as in the familiar operetta, since it is too popular a pastime. If it were up to them, however, they would turn National Socialist Germany into a wasteland of muttering and complaining, a place where denunciation, spying, and extortion were the order of the day. >These same moralists often turn to government offices with the request to ban films, plays, operas, and operettas, since the dancers, stars, etc., apparently represent a grave danger to public decency. If we gave in to their demands, we should soon see only old ladies and men on the screen or the stage. The theaters would be empty, since the public generally does not attend them to see the same people they see in church or old people’s homes. >Save us from these hypocritical creatures who have no genuine strong conception of life, and who in reality preach no honest morality. They generally are life’s losers, protesting life itself. Eternal life and its laws will hardly make way for them; at most, they will hide behind a screen of contemptible hypocrisy and dishonest prudery. >They think that the German woman should not go out alone, she should not sit alone in a restaurant, she should not go out with a boy or even an S.A. man without a chaperone for a Sunday afternoon excursion, she should not smoke, she should not drink, she should not wash up and make herself pretty, in short she should do everything to keep the evil interest of a man away from her. That is, at least, is how these midget moralists think a German woman should behave. And woe to the poor womanly creature who has the misfortune to transgress against one of these laws. Of course, no German woman will have bobbed hair, since only Jewesses and other contemptible creatures do that. >Have these moral trumpeters any idea how they slander and demoralize millions of German women with their preaching, women who bravely and honestly do their duty in life and on the job, who are good comrades to their men and sacrificing mothers for their children?
>Don’t they realize that they embarrass National Socialism throughout the world, that they are thirty years too late, or that one must take them to task because they are beginning to be annoying? There are good and bad women, decent and less decent women, some with bobbed hair, some without. Whether or not they powder their noses is not a sign of their inner worth, and if they occasionally smoke a cigarette at home or in society, they do not need to feel rejected or cast out. >In any event, these moralists should not sit in judgment over women, whether they are enemies or even if like all real men they wish women happiness, relaxation, and domestic peace, though their stuffy superiority would keep women from it. >They think it is not National Socialist to enjoy life, but rather one should only look at the dark side of human existence. Pessimism and suspicion are the best teachers in our earthly vale of sorrows. A true National Socialist has no cause to protect these miserable creatures. Primitiveness and absolute rejection of pleasure are the only character values to these people. If one has a clean and a dirty collar, one puts the dirty one on to give evidence of his hatred of bourgeois values. A man with a good and a bad suit wears the bad one, particularly for festive occasions, for it shows the astonished world how revolutionary his outlook is. He dislikes joy and laughter; people should have nothing to laugh about. >Are we living in a pietistic state, or in the age of life-affirming National Socialism? >No one can suspect us of wanting to live lives of ostentation or luxury. The Führer and many of his close comrades neither smoke nor drink nor enjoy sumptuous living. Those, however, who want to rob a nation of sixty million of every pleasure and all traces of optimism are contemptible, entirely aside from the fact that their foolish desires would drive countless people into poverty and misery. >Every banned activity makes more people unemployed; if no one can drive a car, the automobile factories will shut down, if no one wears a new suit, the looms and tailors will have nothing more to do; if people no longer attend movies or the theater, hundreds of thousands of stage and film employees will depend on public assistance. >To take joy and pleasure from a people means to make it unfit for its struggle for its daily bread. >He who does that sins against our reconstruction efforts and embarrasses the National Socialist state before the whole world. >The result would be a dreary impoverishment of our public life. That we will not accept. >We do not want to abolish pleasure, but rather to let as many as possible share in it. That is why we encourage people to attend the theater, that is why we give workers the opportunity to dress well for festive occasions. That is the reason behind Kraft durch Freude. That is why we shake off the agents of a prudish hypocrisy, why we do not allow decent, hard-working people who have every reason to need relief from their hard daily labors, who need to reaffirm life, to recover from the weariness, cares, and burdens of every day, to have their necessary pleasures ruined by the eternal chicanery of these pedants. >We need more affirmation of life and less complaining! More morality, but less moralism! https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb60.htm
>Certainly there is need for public regulation of the great moral foundations of our national life. Question is where is the baseline. Should women get tattoos, sleep around, get abortions, work alongside men, etc? Whether there are laws for it, or social pressure, I don't know but the slippery slope is also real.
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>>20173 Moralists who cry about sluts also have a way of disgracing women. It is about as ugly as sluts themselves.
>>20173 People aren't naturally degenerate, nor are they naturally puritans. All of this begins with education and in the home though. If the government began slowly to discourage these things through soft pressure, and even more important, to put men of good conduct in power to serve as examples for the people, the need for laws would become less and less. Confucius said this: >If you lead them by means of government and keep order among them by means of punishments, the people are without conscience in evading them. If you lead them by means of virtue and keep order among them by means of ritual, they have a conscience and moreover will submit. The general idea of this is clear - if you want people to actually be good and not just play-acting goodness, brutal punishments for everything under the sun is obviously not the way to do it. I wouldn't take this idea to too radical of a conclusion though. Specifically though when it comes to women, it's going to have to be a mixture of letting things play out naturally, legal changes and policy changes. The feminist brainwashing would end. Media would show girls being girls, and embracing their femininity and celebrating motherhood. The fact that people think songs such as this are creepy or weird shows how far we have truly fallen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eggOctAjK38 Perhaps schools would have uniforms, and some classes would be given to girls to teach them useful domestic skills for the future, as well as important things such as how to sew, how to cook, how to do basic gardening, etc. Men could of course benefit from all of this as well, but for girls it is especially important and not something to be looked down upon in the slightest. I could go on and on really, if stores were merely to stop selling disgusting slutty clothes, girls would start to more properly, if it were possible for a man to support both him and his wife single-handedly, there would be many more mothers caring for their children at home and giving them the time they so desperately need. In fact, I'd say the majority of the problems we face can be fixed through measures such as this. It would not be long before we'd be raising a country of mothers-to-be and actual men instead of sluts and faggots.
>>20176 That video was pretty adorable. For a cult, the Mormons can sure create some good media.
>>20182 Yeah, I thought it was pretty cute as well. It was somewhat refreshing given the fact that what is aimed at little girls nowadays is stuff like getting involved in STEM or similar sorts of "empowering" dreams. Mormons are a very mixed bag. On the one hand they pump out White children at almost twice the rate of the rest of the White population and generally look pretty clean-cut and respectable, but sadly they are massive philosemites and especially whacky Christcucks.
>>20174 I don't even see your point other than finding a cool new word of moralists (whatever it means) and swinging it around. Does crying abour race mixing disgrace the race? Or denouncing homosexuality disgrace men? I mostly agree with what Goebbels was saying, if it's not to be too overbearing. But you do have to maintain standards. I suspect just getting rid of the jews (and pederasts) would go a long way though so where you don't have to be too overbearing, because the subversive elements who actively corrupt the youth would be largely though not entirely of course, eliminated.
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I'm also critical of the privatization rhetoric on the family unit. If a family is only kept to breed with itself, it will be inbred--while the family does suffice and play an important social role, the race as an extended family, and the public good and other families, matter much more for the purpose of a healthy society. The family plays a crucial social role, but to favor only private families, like private individuals, and deny socialization with these families among their peers denies the crucial social element that children will need to feel a deeper connection with the people. It isn't good to promote an anti-social doctrine with the family unit like the conservatives do. Imagine if you had children, and a close-knit family, but you didn't allow these children to play with other children and alienated them socially--this would be unhealthy for the family and the public. The family, like the individual, is realized in extension with a greater family, a greater community and people. The father and mother have right to their children, but these children should also be enrolled to interact with their people at large--the Hitler Youth was criticized for alienating these children from their family, but it is far worse for a private family to alienate their children from other children and teach them to partake in civil society. The family is good, and it is the first role model for any authority as a part of a healthy state, but denying the importance of having a state and bond with your kin is worse alienation. The patriarchal doctrines are correct in ascribing an importance to the family, likewise, but the family serves as a part of the overall public, as a component. A healthy people aspire to grander goals than the economic utility of the family unit (the word Economic meaning household management), they will aspire to political goals. There is nothing wrong with the Hitler Youth and its goals to create a social bond among children and incorporate them and their families into their social fold. The family benefits from the public good because these families and individuals fulfill their purpose in tandem with their people. If the race is viewed as an extended family, the family and fathers will benefit. The fatherly household won't be destroyed, but strengthened with the unity between households around a political cause--the father should be respected and has his place providing for his children--but children should be encouraged to develop social skills and partake in these groups. Hitler Youth wasn't in the wrong for this. Only liberal conservatives and anarchists would have this problem--there is plenty of time for the family to bond with their children, but likewise for those children to learn and adapt for public life.
>>20187 Yes, I agree. My problem is many anons are only united around what they mutually dislike. But the problem is that it paints a dark picture--it overtakes everything else--like Goebbels was saying, it gives a dysfunctional portrayal of women in the process of finger-pointing and namecalling. I guess, there is some truth in being united around a common enemy, but should all the finger-pointing and denunciation take primacy over what good that is to built up? I think it's bad to only like a certain cause only because you hate this about women and not because there isn't something better to be doing.
>>20188 (heil'd) You're definitely right about everything you are saying. A balance must be found. The family is the most important building block, but it is not an end in itself. If we imagine a healthy society as single multicellular organism functioning like a unit, the current state of society would be similar to disintegrating this organism into its constituent atoms. Anyone who values the family as the supreme good (to the exclusion of the larger nation / race) is similar to one who break up the 'organism' mentioned above into its constituent cells. Cells in a real organism are of course organized into tissue groups, which make up organs, which contribute to the greater unity of an organism. This is best how they should be viewed, I think. They are vital, but like you say, to have a myopic view of the family is not one that we should have. Interestingly, Japan seems to meld the two to the greatest extent prior to 1945, simultaneously pushing messages like "dying to the self and returning to the one" and the importance of filial piety and harmonious relations within the family and society at large.
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>>20190 I see what you are saying. I like the positive aspects of life more than focusing on the negative. For example the good parts of futurism, living in harmony with nature, building a family, living in a high trust society, making art and architecture and music, good food and get togethers. The problem is we are prevented from having all of that by our enemies, the degeneracy they enable and our ethnic replacement. So focusing on the positive can feel a bit like singing koombayah while being stabbed to death. The first order of business has to be eliminating the existential threat, or the cause of the symptoms as it were. Then we can get back to living.
Literally all that Jim Donald said about women is right. The actuality is that in order for a certain level of societal functioning to be doable and maintained you need to enforce Taliban style rules for both men and women but especially women. This means: >Making it extremely difficult if not impossible for women to interact with males outside of their immediate clan/community. Women for the majority of recorded history in non-Stone Age/Mudhut lands did not reliably socialize with male strangers or were not in the position they could do so without the eye of a male relative watching. >removing all ability for women to depend on any males outside of their clans unless married >outlaw all modern contraceptives and treatments for STDs that aren't permitted by husbands and patriarchs >remove all ability for women to escape the consequences for the loss in reputation for engaging in acts like getting dick shoved up her rear by some stranger or fucking the 18 year old would get them in a pre-industrial society. >make prostitution open with the women branded as such
>>21109 I’ve gradually come to think that most of this is pretty spot on. Not from reading any particular guy I will have to check out the guy you are mentioning, but mainly from observation of modern women, comparison with past societies and the like. It used to be in many pre-modern societies that you were a degenerate if you even touched the hand of a woman not in your family, let alone associated with them outside of your own family until marriage. I’m not sure I understand the ‘need’ for prostitution though
>>13725 It's called Odinism and Odinia already made a website about it, nigger. You know the cuck shit's in overdrive when I mentioned this stuff for over a decade on every single board and you fags ignore it every time then can't figure out why you don't get religion after all these years. It's not my fault, that's for sure.
>>20169 Most excellent quotations! >A moral knight >midget moralists >hypocritical creatures >life’s losers, protesting life itself >contemptible hypocrisy and dishonest prudery >thirty years too late >miserable creatures >pedants TOPKEK88 I might not agree with everything though but the overall point is a solid one. There was a strong initiative to have a very puritan society. As we saw in the United States, this has never protected Whites. This certainly reeks off of White sharia but you simply need to have a strong patriarchy and you'll soon see that you don't need that many laws to have women behave. All the degenerate shit is Jewish. Remove it and soon enough the minds of women won't be polluted. Make the Aryan values strong and they'll follow them with glee because they respect, fear and follow what they believe is dominating. >>20188 >the Hitler Youth was criticized for alienating these children from their family By butthurt Christians, mostly. >>21109 Males must maintain a form of control over their females: Spouse, sister or daughter. Preferably, a woman should never be without a family. She must move from her biological family into her wedding one. Women living alone shouldn't be allowed an easy access to social advantages. There was a time for a women being alone was a shame and that's good. There is nothing to be proud about for a women to be alone and they all know it. The more they fight against this historical biological imprint, the more annoying and tumultuous they are, causing as much trouble as they can. There would be few exceptions and that's fine. Also the more women are brought closer to the home's vicinity the better. There again there will be exceptions but many women demonstrate every day how they prefer to stay at home even if for work. Men are much more adventurous, for all sorts of reasons.
>>21330 >I want freedom Go live with subhuman tribesmen in the Amazon if you want “muh freedom”. The true horseshoe is National Socialism in the center and communists and liberals (like you) at either end
>>21330 This is funny because Mark Passio is obviously a fucking fed informant, you HAVE to use your REAL information to get his Amazing Repository of Knowledge by sending him a 2TB hard drive by HIS specific shipping instructions. Question, are you just fucking retarded or a shill?
>>21330 Next to you'll be saying it's okay to be a gay or have part Nigger grandkids. >>21333 Stone Age societies are racial supremacists that are subordinate to their figures of worship and do not sell land.
>>21341 >*proceeds to lick nigger boots* I hope you die painfully, lib.
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>>21341 >nobody has the right to rule over another Reality does not conform to your wishes and never will, libshit
>>21363 >might make right Even as a strict authoritarian, this is nigger-tier philosophy. Right makes right, or the eternal struggle against them would've ended 75 years ago
>>21365 >this is nigger-tier philosophy Calling something you don't like 'nigger-tier' isn't a refutation. 'Right makes right' is meaningless and says nothing. Eternal struggle and victory of the strongest are eternal laws of nature, and the standards of the victors are those imposed as "right"
>>21367 If the kikes and their cronies abandoned their humanity and can win against those opposed to them because of it. Yet, even if they win, they will never be right.
>>21371 This is a nonsensical statement, something is missing from it that might make it make sense, and nobody here is advocating "abandoning Humanity" what they are advocating is rise above the Subhumans, if that makes us seem Inhuman to you, you understand less than nothing about human nature or reality.
>>21371 'Might is right' (or any other variant of this) is a descriptive statement about reality. It doesn't matter what you, me or anyone else thinks about it, it's just a banal fact.
>>21374 I'm not advocating for giving up humanity, I'm saying that their inhuman actions have led to their victory over the world, but their actions are not right. Simple physical strength or cunning of a people speaks about character and willpower, not about truth. There is only one truth, and it isn't decided by the victor.
>>21429 >I'm saying that their inhuman actions have led to their victory over the world Those with the fewest impediments to their actions and the most strength will be victorious. This is right, because in many ways this is all that matters. What matters if you're fucking dead or extinct? Nothing. Surviving in the first place is the fundamental condition for having anything matter, and a system of values that directly impedes this is a flawed one. This is the truth. In the long term the jews and their civilization would never endure because of their warped and unsustainable vision though.
>>21376 Depends on what "might" and "right" mean since they are both subjective, especially "right" which is a value statement. If the slogan means something tautological to you like "the winner is the one who won" then I would have to agree it is a banal fact.
>>21452 dude you're either a jew yourself or totally retarded. The things they see as victory conditions would be easily achievable by us. More easily achievable than by them. But WE DON'T WANT THOSE THINGS
>>21455 Yes, I mean it mostly tautologically. It is no sort of deep insight, but it is an important reminder of realism and eternal struggle in politics. It is not the be-all and end-all, but between competitors or enemies it often comes close. >>21544 >The things they see as victory conditions would be easily achievable by us. More easily achievable than by them. But WE DON'T WANT THOSE THINGS I don't understand your point. As you say yourself, the jewish victory condition is totally opposite to anything that we would ever want, because it is not our interest, it is a jewish interest. Given that our society has been gradually transformed by jews to suit their needs, the fact that the society we wish to construct is of a radically different nature is an obvious statement to me.
>>21560 what jews are trying to do (destroy) is easier than what we are trying to do (build) so it is nonsense to say "jews are superior because they are succeeding" and suggests you are fucking retarded
>>21565 I have never said that jews are superior just because they are succeeding at the moment. Some aspects of their group strategy may be superior, but I think that should be a relatively uncontroversial statement given how they are reliant on extreme tribalism and ethnic networking. I really don't concern myself with superior versus inferior when it comes to group struggle. Even if jews were 'superior' in some sense that does not strip us of the right to insist on our existence and to destroy them before they destroy us. This is the nature of eternal struggle. In some sense the victor is 'superior' in virtue of having won, but then there are questions of whether they are long-term sustainable as a civilization, which, as we know with jews, it is not.
>>21568 If you mean the they are better at being cohesive, I agree. They know that's important, and that's why the push individualism, mixing e various "guilts" on their adversaries.
>>21869 >If you mean the they are better at being cohesive Yes, at least when it matters for them to do so. >They know that's important, and that's why the push individualism, mixing e various "guilts" on their adversaries. Exactly. The jews work through inversion of natural ways of living and thinking, gradually degrading their enemies and making the nations they live in more hospitable to the jews.
Pedo focus is a misdirection. In actuality, there are extremely few cases of being genuinely drawn to prepubescent children as opposed to opportunistically chasing them. Men like the faggot at the Lincoln Project are just homosexuals acting as homosexuals do when they're able to act out their perversion unimpeded combined with the needed resources. Teachers hunt boys at their schools since they're either unclaimed women surrounded by prime males or women with husbands they despise. The big point is that yelling about muh pedos is more than not one of the following: A. A way for normies to vent their disdain for faggotry but still keep their social acceptance. B. Women trying to control their sexual monopolies by shaming interest in females at their reproductive peaks (first menarche through teens). Decades of propaganda have tricked normies into thinking that fags and dykes are either "just like us" (except they take dicks up their ass or have an aversion for males from abuse or desperation) or are beautiful and quirky. Not ones who'd need to be locked up in an asylum, not injectors, not kiddie fuckers,
>>23028 >A way for normies to vent their disdain for faggotry but still keep their social acceptance. You think so? It seems like normalfags actually target the ones that go for girls the most. In fact, I have felt like they're almost doing this specifically not to seem 'homophobic'.
>>23030 It's because of the uncomfortable truth that an outsized percentage of homos are pedos. It's part of fag grooming culture to chase youth and since nothing is sacred to them of course they don't respect the boundary of puberty at all.
>>21363 There is no such thing as might as right, this is nigger-tier larp and you're making excuses, because by your logic the Soviets and British were right. You can't rely on might to solve all your problems it's a one way thinking and retarded shills for edgelords who probably had the thought of shooting up their schools.
>>23068 This is no sort of rebuttal. So in response I would just repeat exactly what I said in my previous post that you are replying to - "Reality does not conform to your wishes and never will". You are again (in common with others who have said this, that is) making the mistake of confusing what is a descriptive statement about reality into a value judgement. Not everything is might, just as not everything is eternal struggle, but to ignore either of these would be to have an incorrect view of the world.
>>23071 >This is no sort of rebuttal. This is a rebuttal, you're coping, for over the past hundred years might is right has rarely even been a reality or truth to how things play out all the time. This concept is an idea made by an larper who didn't understand that destroying and killing everything in your path or what you think is at stake is not always a solution to everything. "Might is right" is the type of excuse the Roman elites would use as an excuse to replace their kin from providing the nation's needs with slaves, because so-called needs to prosper. >"Reality does not conform to your wishes and never will" This is a vague and quite stupid statement, reality doesn't indeed conform to your wishes, because you have to make your own wishes come from true. Might not bring upon your wishes is not reality refusing to conform it's the person refusing to acknowledge the reality of why his wish hasn't come true whether it be ignorance or some exploitable weakness. >You are again (in common with others who have said this, that is) making the mistake of confusing what is a descriptive statement about reality into a value judgement. Who is again? I've only talked to you this once, and your logic is saying has no meaning, because in reality the value of might has never won many wars and battles.
>>23073 >This is a rebuttal, you're coping, for over the past hundred years might is right has rarely even been a reality or truth to how things play out all the time. So the weak have been winning all of the wars for over the past hundred years? News to me. >larper who didn't understand that destroying and killing everything in your path or what you think is at stake is not always a solution to everything Arguing against a strawman now. Also the basic idea can be found as far back as in Socratic dialogues and Thucydides. >Who is again? I've only talked to you this once I already said in the parentheses immediately following 'again' that you are merely making the same mistake that others I have talked to have made, not that you have said this before to me. >the value of might has never won many wars and battles. This is such an absurd statement hat I hardly can think of a way to even respond to it. What, do the weak win wars?
>>23073 Might makes right doesn't mean that violence is the same as moral superiority, just that the ability to project force is a requirement for any sort of security and stability.
1. There is nothing wrong with abortion as long as women are prevented from getting one when not permitted by their closest male authority (father, brother, uncle, etc.). 2. Prostitution is nowhere near as harmful for society as pornography and public lewdness (as in women in gyms wearing yoga pants or even just bikinis). 3. All entertainment is dangerous but visual entertainment is the worst of it all (television, video games, film) since it exploits how men's brains have not developed to distinguish between actual reality and visual entertainment reality. The Elite knows this, hence them investing so much into pushing shit like Marvel movies like Super Kangz onto the public. This counts as unpopular since yes, animu is also deeply degenerate by design. 4. PUAs and other spokesman are wrong on male-female interactions since they think today's current situation ("Dating" aka faggotry. hordes of women interacting with men "casually") reflects an eternal order rather than tech combined with top-down planning.
>>23234 Last: The big problem with "The Right" is that it never goes far enough. The roots of everything wrong stem from the Iron Age. Men like Socrates with their subversion. Christ would not have gained a foothold without the acts of such men like Zoroaster.
>>23234 >>23235 I've gotta say, I pretty much agree. Though, I think some of the PUA stuff is right (esp. shit tests and the like) but like you said I think it's more of a product of a degenerated social order and feminism than any sort of constant in human history. As you say yourself, dating is modern and degenerate, and likely a reason why pair-bonding has been destroyed and marriages so often fail nowadays (along with many other related reasons). Regarding prostitution, it's definitely a good point. It existed in past societies and they weren't full of beta faggots. I think it would be a step up at this point since it would reduce the SMV of the average woman and knock her arrogance down a notch.
>>23234 I like playing vidya and watching TV but I don't think you're wrong.
>>23243 >I like playing vidya and watching TV
>>23244 What do you care? Maybe that poster might be a shitskin.
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>>23248 Imagine defending watching the electric jew. There is one cucked poster who uses Tor, and I bet it is him. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if you are him pretending to not be him now
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EKTEQvE6Imdijedm2deq-ABNAjAJQX0w/view https://traditionsofconflict.com/blog/2020/12/13/book-review-humankind-by-rutger-bregman https://traditionsofconflict.com/blog/2020/9/8/the-weirdest-people-in-the-world-gets-polygyny-wrong Backing what was said. >>23236 Having mass car usage combine with police alone undermines tradition. Cars let daughters be able to sneak off to get fucked far easier than if they had to travel on foot or on horse. Police ensure that fathers and other males in the family can't properly keep their daughters' behavior in check.
>>23698 >Having mass car usage combine with police alone undermines tradition 100% true. I read this same thing about cars in a book on the Amish and it really made sense to me. I have said for a long time that the law has been gradually eroding away the power of father's to ensure that their children are raised how they want them to be and to make sure the women of the house behave. It's very obvious.
>>23700 Didn't National Socialist Germany wanted most of their citizens who lived in urban areas to own cars? Wouldn't that mean they also undermined tradition as well?
>>23710 >Didn't National Socialist Germany wanted most of their citizens who lived in urban areas to own cars? Wouldn't that mean they also undermined tradition as well? They wanted affordable cars for their citizens, along with radios, housing and other consumer goods. Now were *they* undermining tradition? No more than capitalism and industrialism in general were undermining tradition and bringing about destructive trends such as individualism. National Socialism was partially a corrective against all of this modern degeneracy, but it was also very modern itself. They didn’t do everything 100% perfectly, not because they were misguided though. We are speaking with hindsight now. NatSoc Germany, as modern as it was, is a literal utopia compared to what we find ourselves in now. Much of what they did they could not have done better. There is a reason why they still today serve as a guiding light to Völkisch nationalists all across Europe.
neinchan is best chan no matter the opinion of the current leader
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>>13718>>13721>>13722>>13731 You have to be reminded
>>23710 Ignoring any sort of resource arguments, cars are most socially destructive if you need to use them everyday. If your city is set up for walking to be the main mode of transport, you still have neighbors rubbing elbows and less isolation in general. It's so easy for our cities to be neglected because people just drive through or around them, and thus avoid having to actually engage with it
In a nigger-free world with less people in general, public transportation hopefully would be far more in use than individual cars. It just makes sense. >>23716 >all lowercase Hello deradmin, now go back to your dead site.
>>23732 Good points. >that example pic If you've ever had to ride in a bus that's packed with that many people you know it's a miserable experience. Even with zero non-Whites it wouldn't be exactly pleasant, but throw in niggers etc. and it's becomes a demonic cesspool as is to be expected. Dealing with traffic jams in your own car is far, far more preferable to the experience. Besides, this is definitely some You don't own nothing, goy!11 You'll eat the bugs and be happy about it-tier propaganda. The traffic is the prime issue pictured. Every other artifact from the example is pretty much a net positive overall.
>>23732 whos deradmin also nein is still alive lol
>>23737 I'm sure the source of this image is certainly from some sort of 'eat the bugs" type campaign, but it's based on a kernel of truth. Reducing the amount of cars out there would ideally lead to faster travel times, more efficient travel and probably cleaner air in the long-term. I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say "completely ban cars", but instead changes could be gradually made to make certain types of travel the most convenient option for people. Cutting down on superfluous travel could really be implemented as well slowly by making communities more locally self-sufficient in many things. For example today it is very clear that 99% of people are dependent on grocery stores, imported foods and supply-chains. They are utterly helpless without these. Food should be being grown by local communities and many things should be being produced and reused locally as well if it is possible. Now I don't value efficiency over everything. This is part of the reason why the system that we live in is an anti-human jewish hellworld, because it is places efficiency above everything else, but the focus instead should be helping communities be healthy, natural, self-sufficient as possible and sustainable. What we do want to avoid is packing people into trains or buses though, like video related. I'd argue that this is another symptom of the current system. They want to pack as many meat bags into a train as physically possible and move them from point-A to point-B. We need to balance various variables to get a preferable outcome
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>>23732 >omitting the third option
>>23743 I'll admit I'm neither a regular here, nor a fan of this strain of fash that's grown up here. You OTOH are kind of like a breath of fresh air here. You seem actually sane. Thanks, I actually drop my previous assertion and concur with your fully. Just curious, have you ever read Alexander's The Timeless Way of Building ?
>>23743 I would go even further and advocate for individual self-sufficiency. A nuclear family can grow more food than it can consume with trivial amounts of labor, throw in quilting and home crafts for the wife and machining and technical work for the husband, and the only thing you might need a community for is raw materials like fabrics and steel. A relatively promitive computer running a network-enabled revision of TempleOS would cover all complex calculations, automation, and machine control. The economy of the future might very well be made up of 99% homesteaders doing occasional small-scale production work, cultural, or research projects, and just 1% living in small towns working the material extraction and refining side of things. Even now, only about 2% of jobs are actually productive in a real, material sense, everything else is make-believe busywork counting meaningless numbers, just to give the average goy something to do. Transport in this case would be mostly cargo, even if a family owned a rugged, self-maintainable car, they wouldn't use it much. Freedom means being allowed to do something, without being compelled to do so. The freedom to drive means nothing if you have no choice but to do it. >>23746 You just haven't swallowed the schizo pill yet. Absolute collectivism is absolute individualism.
>>23747 I don't know if there's enough food going around if everyone's supposed to grow/hunt it on their own, especially in cold regions where plants have less time to grow. Of course it's a different situation if you delete cities and generally spread people more so that nobody lives in small city grid cuck houses, but that'll never happen because you can't convince anyone that reducing the amount of people on this shitty rock is a good thing.
>>23745 I was thinking more in terms of long distance travel in my previous post, but I certainly think we could use more bicycles. That's the one thing I noticed a lot of when I was in Europe, is that there are tons of cyclists. I think that that's definitely a good thing. One does not need a bus to go a mile down the street or a few streets other. Either bike or walk. >>23746 >You seem actually sane Depends what I'm talking about >Just curious, have you ever read Alexander's The Timeless Way of Building ? No, I haven't, but from looking at a description and a few reviews it seems very interesting. I think the large majority of architecture we see around us today is pretty much cookie-cutter and soulless, and there is definitely something missing that makes them not feel 'alive' while in pre-modern buildings there is a certain charm or 'soul' to it that many modern things are lacking. This is the same with many things today I think, just compare traditional clothing styles, which are intricate and colorful quite often, with drab utilitarian modern clothes that often turn you into a walking billboard for some corporation and were made in some sweatshop. I also kind of like traditional Japanese architecture which very much aims to integrate itself with the surrounding environment unobtrusively and subtly rather than flatten everything into a moonscape. Basically we need to take the Bhutan-pill: >>11055 I'll have to remember this book.
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>>23747 >I would go even further and advocate for individual self-sufficiency. A nuclear family can grow more food than it can consume with trivial amounts of labor, throw in quilting and home crafts for the wife and machining and technical work for the husband, and the only thing you might need a community for is raw materials like fabrics and steel Oh definitely. If we are to make communities more self-sufficient themselves though there will definitely need to be local cooperation to an extent given the amount of food that would need to be produced, but there are absolutely no downsides to having families try to produce as much as they can themselves in terms of crafts, clothes and the like. I feel a bit hypocritical saying some of this since I'm not really practicing what I'm preaching at the moment, but ideally I'd like to move towards this more in the future and see more people adopt this sort of lifestyle. I've said before too that feminism is the direct result of the erosion of this sort of traditional lifestyle by industrialism. Corporations and government slowly co-opted traditional female domains of influence such as crafts, basic gardening and child-care, and left them with little more to do than tedious domestic work and vacuuming the fucking house. No wonder there was some unease felt by some, and this is exactly where the kikes got the entrance they needed to destroy the family from within. >>23748 >you can't convince anyone that reducing the amount of people on this shitty rock is a good thing. They'll be left with no other choice in time. We should just hope that it is the far-sighted and dispassionate at the helm when the time does come, otherwise it will be like the lifeboat analogy, except for it sinks to the bottom of the ocean.
>>23748 You wouldn't even have to reduce the population in any way. There's plenty of unused land, and a self-sufficient household would have a minimal impact on the environment. Sparse, distributed villages of nuclear family homesteads blend into the environment, as sparse villages already do today. Still, with what's coming we don't have to worry about lowering the population anyway, most normies will perish even with all the good-will on our side. These are the same people who still support central utilities and supermarket subsistence after nearly dying from rolling blackouts and food shortages. >not enough food to go around You can grow a dozen metric tonnes of tomatoes on about 2 square meters of land, with a primitive greenhouse. Most vegetables in our diet grow at similarly ridiculous rates, I'd be more concerned about what to do with the tonnes of unused food from each household. Meat can be covered with quail coops (very low maintenance and also give delicious eggs), and a single milking cow produces enough milk for a dozen or so families. Traditionally, hard-to-keep animals were raised by single families passing down the trade through generations, with less specialized families bartering with crops, crafts, and other goods. This can very well be the same in the digital age as well, in rural areas the "village IT guy" is more or less institutionalized already.
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>>23752 You're making it sound like anyone can grow an abundant food supply from their backyard and pic related is complete horse shit.
>>23751 >I feel a bit hypocritical saying some of this since I'm not really practicing what I'm preaching at the moment And this is what is wrong with fascist and WS today. If White people could act like more like the Amish and Mormons and exit out if city with their own kin then we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place. I recommend all of you to always nd practice the things you know will help us. Owning land and moving into rural areas and starting our own communities is a goal I believe many of us should try to strive for or even help other Whites who aren't faggots or feds join us. Never rely on the government and urbanites to help you.
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>>23761 I don't think it's fair to blame people too much. The society just isn't made to put people in a situation where moving away is viable and where people have any kind of skills to survive there. Relations between people and the conventions to interact with strangers are at rock bottom so the amount of help and support and resources you can or know how to gain from other people are minimal. The economy and jobs are in the shitter as well so not many people can afford to buy a house, let alone a decent one with a fair amount of land, and then also be able to pay for car and gas to commute from there to work to pay for it all. A lot of people are probably knee deep in college debt or something as well. And let's not forget how difficult it is to find a relationship that actually works so you'd have someone at home helping around. I'd love to move somewhere more rural at this moment but I can't afford to, at least it would be very risky since I have no idea what I would do to pay my bills since all my education is in arts/design and computers, I could live probably a couple years with my savings and that's without taking the ownership/usage of a car into account. I have 0 skills in cultivating something to eat either and I can't exactly practice from my current situation, not counting planting tomatoes in a pot or something, and tomatoes are among my least favorite things to put into my mouth.
>>23761 >If White people could act like more like the Amish and Mormons and exit out if city with their own kin then we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place No, we'd still be being ethnically replaced just like Mormons and Amish are.
>>23788 The Mormon and Amish have some of the highest birth-rates in America. Their birth-rates are high enough to turn a small town that's filled with non-Whites to being 60-70% White. If Whites created their and built their environments to be safe and allow them to bred often then there wouldn't be any ethnical replacement.
>>23799 Also it doesn't make sense that you're saying something as false as this, because the Amish and Mormons are buying up land and creating their own communities as they marry very often. And the most conservative areas aren't being ethnically replaced. Ethnical replacement isn't going to happen, it's just that Whites are going to be a minority in some cities and towns, which won't matter if Whites continue to make up at least 50% of the income, despite being a small portion of the population.
>>23801 https://oklahoman.com/article/2251960/mormon-church-buys-ranchland-in-osage-county https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/jan/30/from-book-to-boom-how-the-mormons-plan-a-city-for-500000-in-florida https://www.christianpost.com/news/mormon-church-largest-private-landowner-in-florida-with-670000-acres.html/ http://groups.etown.edu/amishstudies/social-organization/population-growth/ I still can't believe we're still doing this bitching and moaning about ethnical replacement when something such as that is not really endangering the White race along with it being easily stopped if White people would stop being normalfag and start having sex. This is working for the Amish and Mormons, why can't it work for White people who aren't them?
>>23801 >Ethnical replacement isn't going to happen, it's just that Whites are going to be a minority in some cities and towns Absolute delusion. Hope you enjoy living in a gated White community in South America 2. Maybe if you're lucky your grandchildren won't mix your genes off by attrition.
>>23803 Do you really think these people are going to be allowed to grow to an extent that disrupts the jewish system? Of course they won't. Amish population growth isn't even sustainable since there will be an increasingly large population that won't be directly involved in farm work and will instead probably get involved in business, which will take them further away from their families and communities and more into contact with the modern world, which is 100% necessary for those doing business. And Mormons on the other hand are massive philosemites, and besides from a few moral issues are 100% amenable to the jewish system. What >>23809 says is right, your idea right now would lead to some sort of South Africa scenario where Whites live in enclaves in a degenerate world ruled by jews, surrounded by a sea of shitskins. And it's quite presumptuous to think that we would even be allowed that.
>muh amish/mormons le based meme >muh retreatism Yawn. Amish aren't even safe from using cellphones. They're tolerated since they pose no threat to Globohomo since they're ultimate Christcucks and if anything serve it by giving the illusion of options. And Mormons are just White jews. Their lands are operating bases for Globohomo (spies for one). Their women are mega whores who think that "virginity" means that you only suck on dicks and take it in your rear in high school to college.
>>23821 This nigger is a Demotivation Shill, he seeks to point out that we don't talk about what we do in the real world, and thus we must not do anything at all, right guys? Your bullshit doesn't work here shill.
>>23821 Just admit you're a lolberg already. >The "jewish system" isn't interupting small community Whites from having a steady and increasing birth rate. Those small communities you speak of are either geopolitically irrelevant or can be subverted easy enough. There are small towns with Somalis and/or rainbow flags. >high IQ Whites Say that it's okay to run around taking dicks up your ass when you're a man and chopping your dick off makes you a woman and also that race nun reel yet White Privilege is and that lobergism/anrckiddieism/communism works. >You schizo keep crying about muh jewish system, but still haven't proven it's impossible to fight agaisnt. I swear Americans are the biggest cucks on Earth. Activism doesn't work when you have no power backing you. Retreatism is cowardice.
>>23822 >>23821 You propose sheltered meadows, as if we have not all considered this before and rejected these options because they will not overthrow ZOG.
>>23821 We're not against having children you numbskull. But neither will having children alone save our race from being overwhelmed by replacement migration. Sounds like you are saying we should do something besides complain. I agree. What are your recommendations once you've made a couple children? What are you doing beyond having children?
>>23833 Translation:"We're gigantic pussies and will never do anything against ZOG. Everything we do is a larp and jews in reality are more chads than we are, while we're just autistic mutts and retards who can't fight for shit." Yeah massive cope bud, 1488 will never come no matter how many times you search for an article and cry about ZOG.
>>23851 Hey look another Demotivation agent, where are they all creeping in from?
>>23858 It's a new shill tactic. They come in waves and all talk on coordinated topics. First this happened with Communists, and then Christcucks and now with people who are calling us pussies but never proposing any solutions. >>23851 >offers no solutions and rebuttals Opinion discarded.
>>23860 At least the Christians and commies are fun to mock and BTFO, these ones are just pathetic.
>>23861 They must be running of ideas. Sad!
>>23866 Oh this ones a sassy agent, it doesn't like when we disagree with it's milquetoast takes and completely uninformed opinions on the crazy religious sect it drove to our lands, and one of our own, both of whom are actively aiding in our ethnic genocide by allowing niggers among them and to breed with them, in the case of the Amish, by adopting them. Even if you are serious the strategy you advocate was btfo by GLR himself more than fifty years ago when he correctly identified that you euros are the pussies and the last true remaining Aryan Barbarians exist here, in America, it is here that resistance to ZOG will begin and here from which Aryan power will grow again.
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>>23867 Don't change your shit, Agent Smith.
I wish for one time one of these “you’re all do-nothing cowards” posters would actually provide some sort of solution. I am always left disappointed
>>23868 >>23869 >Muh CIA! See this exactly what in talking about, you faggots are not only schizo, but also snowflakes banning me. You pretend you can handle an opposing opinion when in reality anything that upsets your fragile egos will make you kvetch like the kikes at wallstreet. You cry CIA and FBI as if you know that these are the only individuals who are willing to join your faggy movements. There are still zero White militias, there are no White supremacists in your little shithole who's going to usurper and take over America. Whites in America barely even consider destroying the republic for good. Your fetishism and dreams are a cope and you still haven't said a single intelligent counter-arguement on why I'm wrong that you guys aren't just as much as losers as the anarchist who dream of destroying your country as well. You're both niggers who only dream, take the L and realize that White Americans are the biggest losers of White people, because they're cucks and cowards. The sooner you accept this, maybe you will stop larping on the 1488 train and do something for once, although I'm talking to a retarded mutt, so I don't expect anything that would lift me an eyebrow.
>>23888 >schizo >snowflakes >cope >larping >mutt >>>/cuckchan/ Also the logs show no bans, so you're a lying jew
>>23888 We call you all shills and CIA/FBI, partly because it is a very long running joke and is true a good bit of the time, but also because you are all here to tell us NOT to do what we desire to do. What we desire to do is use violence unrelentingly against the Federal Government of the United States of America, until we have attained a purely ARYAN ethnostate from which we will expand and cleanse this nation that my direct blood ancestors fought and died to give to me. You come here and being a European full of unchecked, undeserved arrogance and a false sense of superiority, have the nerve to say "you guys are doing it wrong, do it this way I say to do it". Rockwell told you fucks what was what back in the 60's when you whined and bitched that he was leaning into the "Hollywood Nazi" image. He rightfully called each and every one of you cowards and shirkers and weaklings because you assholes drove ALL of your Barbarians to America, on purpose, leaving nothing but weaklings cowards and bureaucrats in the homeland.

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