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Roping in reactionaries Blackshirt 10/29/2020 (Thu) 10:53:20 ID: 6e5f31 No.11676
It's pretty simple how to rope in non-pozzed anarchists and liberals but the reactionary group (Strasserists, Stalinists, PaleoCons, Monarchists) seem to be distancing themselves from fascism. How can we fix this? Spamming "read corporatist theory" on twitter?
Reactionaries have always been one step away from traitors, just look at how they behave in real life as well. But when you say "distancing themselves" what exactly do you mean? I think the best thing to do regardless is to just keep spreading information, having good talking points and a pool of stuff to post out of to help redpill people on the fence. I like to post Cultured Thug stuff a lot when I'm trying to redpill. I don't use Tw*tter though so it might be different there >Strasserists No surprise
Does it really matter as long as they are race-realist and anti kike?
>>11683 More than you would think. Certain aspects of fringe ideologies like those are prone to leading people astray, or they leave glaring chinks in one's armor, especially if they were implemented at a national scale.
>>11689 >they leave glaring chinks in one's armor Wdym
>>11681 Well it's true Strasserists from Rohm to Gregor have always been faggots
>>11691 Because noone is well versed in economics. Pink Panzer (faggot mod dev) was once a full- alt right faggot who then became nazbol after hanging out with some tankies. Then it was a slow process of brainwashing him to become less authoritarian once he became a communist
Reactionaries are degenerate failures, who are cowardly, moronic, and useless. I could care less if they distance themselves from fascism, because the sooner we become disassociated with them the less gays we will have infiltrating our idealology with their larpy political beliefs such as nazbol. The last time we tried working with reactionaries they caused the defeat of the axis and prevented men like Mussolini and Hitler from completing a true fascist society. I can't tell how you how many reactionaries I have found who are unironically gay and love to abide by liberal moralism, so I couldn't give a shit if they died in a fire.
>>11691 If a system of thought is not Jew-proof, there are always avenues open through which they could crawl in and inject their poison. Especially with monarchists, who claim that the world was just perfect when some Christcucks king lorded over them, they conveniently forget that these same monarchs appointed "Court Jews" and relied on kikes to handle aspects of finance and aspects of trade. If anyone doubts how kosher the history of European monarchies were after the fall of Rome, one just has to go read Alfred Rosenberg's "The Track of the Jew Through the Ages". The only way to precede and become truly invincible ideologically is to look to the Laws of Nature and to have a realistic view of the world that we live in. It sounds vague, but just look at what people talk about here. It would be next to impossible to kosherize these things. That's what happens when you look to Nature. Savitri Devi said it best, you can't de-Nazify Nature.
>>11676 >Monarchists Insane but true, they wish for the old impotent families to return to power and bring back (((Jesus))) into our homes, but damn do they hate the people, nazis, pagans and fascists. These monarchists don't want real monarchs, they want clowns in pretty fur. What we need is a King of the North.
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>>11723 > These monarchists don't want real monarchs, they want clowns in pretty fur. Kek, that's exactly the same impression that I've gotten from reading a bit of their stuff here and there. Ironically enough, many of the images that they use to argue for monarchy are actually arguments for F├╝hrerprinzip more than the type of inbred Christcuck monarchies that they fap over.
Are Hoppeans worth saving? Genuine question
>>11737 They're still bluepilled on the state and caught up on stuff like individual liberty. They might be better than other ancaps due to their ideas of physical removal and more conservative views, but they're another group who could theoretically provide a pool of allies in some respects, but would likely have to be run over if fascists were ever to get into power due to obstinacy
>>11746 They aren't bluepilled on state and individual liberty, they're bluepilled on race, Judaism, and nature. I've seen reactionaries and reactionaries who pretend to be fascists, claim that colonialism is a White man's burden along with being agaisnt enslaving and putting our enemies on a stake. They have no conception of might is right and have no desire to be completely dominant over our enemies and think we should simply expel or limit their "rights". The so-called Third-positionists such as Mark Brahmin, Borzoi, and Keith Woods along with the entire right wing are all bluepilled, even the faggots on here are pretty bluepilled.
>>11757 >even the faggots on here are pretty bluepilled. On what in particular?
>>11758 I've seen some here claim that fascism is only about scientific progress, see that women are useless piece of shit, because they think one gender is represented through social media, one anon thought that it's okay for Whites to be eglititarian, agaisnt ethno-globe, and believing some of the bullshit that comes from (((academia))) such as genetic tests.
>>11759 Ah, yeah I've seen posts here and there like that too. Those are bluepilled opinions. Luckily though, from what I've seen anons usually don't let stuff like that slide too much, hopefully they will spit out the bluepill regarding those matters sooner rather than later.
>>11759 >and believing some of the bullshit that comes from (((academia))) such as genetic tests. Please explain.
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>>11763 Many people seem to have no qualms posting information that comes straight out of Harvard and other kiked Ivory League schools, the same schools that disseminate critical race theory and other forms of Cultural Marxism. The first thing that I think is why should we attach particular value to anything that these geneticists say? We obviously can't depend on them having any more objectivity than any other group of people in these institutions. Oftentimes people cite people like (((David Reich))) to support their claims about the alleged history of our people. People such as Reich also shill for the "Out of Africa" theory.
>>11764 Thulide is also willing to believe them as well which confuses me. https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2020/3/3/faculty-support-warren-president/ Universities like Harvard are biased agaisnt anyone who don't follow their collective narratives. I can't see how you're revolting against the modern world, by accepting modernity and its lies. Supposedly they debunk the vikings and Egyptians being niggers means that they are clearly always or mostly telling the truth?
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>>11765 Yes, that sort of attitude confuses me as well. A big part of the problem is the fact that we just have to take their word on these matters. The everyday person on the street is unable to verify or debunk anything they are saying. I see no reason to trust these kikes, especially when in science at large there is such a massive problem of replicability of studies. I would not be surprised that one day, if we were to come to power, we would quickly discover that many, many things accepted as "science" today are complete Jewish bunk, mainly when it comes to archeology, anthropology, sociology and other domains, but perhaps even beyond that. Speaking of the ancestry of Whites, I have been wondering whether it may be a good idea to make a thread where we can all dump and discuss evidence on the historical distribution of Whites in places such as the Indian subcontinent, the Iranian plateau, western China and beyond. I am coming to believe that Whites were far more widespread.
>>11767 >Speaking of the ancestry of Whites, I have been wondering whether it may be a good idea to make a thread where we can all dump and discuss evidence on the historical distribution of Whites in places such as the Indian subcontinent, the Iranian plateau, western China and beyond. I am coming to believe that Whites were far more widespread. Go ahead, anything that helps us connect and understand our ancestors or kin is fine.
>>11768 Awesome, I'll work up a thread sometime here in a bit where we can gather info
>>11737 >Hoppeans What's their motto? >>11764 >WE: Origins Fuck it. We come from the stars. We've been stranded there for a while. Someone call Orion and get Sirius on line three too. >>11767 > I am coming to believe that Whites were far more widespread. Yes but it covers a much larger period than even five millennia. Some would call it fringe too.
>>11676 >pic Probably the most legitimate symbol to put on Israel's flag.
>>11759 >everyone must have the same opinion as me And for the ethnoglobe one good luck with that, there are non-Whites posting here.
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>>11814 Ethnoglobe is really just common sense, see pic.
>>11814 >>everyone must have the same opinion as me <caring for other races >And for the ethnoglobe one good luck with that, there are non-Whites posting here lol, what makes you think that the non-Whites on here matter at all? They won't populate whatsoever. the Aryans on here are the only ones who matter.
>>11771 >What's their motto? Free Helicopter Rides
>>11723 >>11728 This. I can't stand people who admire Wilhelm II or the Habsburgs.
>>11998 There is no need to hate people of other races. We only need to maintain a strict separation and bring back order in this mess of a world.
>>12097 >What is Valhalla? It's just one big battle-arena MMO. Fight, loot, laugh, drink and eat, sex and girls, die and respawn, rinse and repeat.
>>11681 Post more.
>why are groups that Fascist Germany fought wars against (Monarchists, Stalinists) and purged (Strasserists) distancing themselves from fascism? The intelligent master race, everyone. Next you'll be asking how to get kikes to support us.
>>12219 That's all I really have in my Strasserist collection, unfortunately. That image was my OC so I basically exhausted what I had collected in making it.
>>12221 That's ok. Nice GET.
>>12139 >There is no need to hate people of other races. We only need to maintain a strict separation and bring back order in this mess of a world. Go back to Twatter ethno-pluarist faggot.
>>12549 I'd rather follow a sound Precept than the blabbering of a spastic anon, who obviously cannot understand that absence of hatred does not literally mean love of the stranger either. So kys pos
>>12220 Not a bad idea actually. They would make for a powerful ally.
>>12557 Ethnopluralism is an idealistic theory basically dead in the water. It's also important to remember that literally only Whites want strict separation, and that other races will spaz out if they are not given access to Whites, so basically it will require global White hegemony to even enforce a system of global apartheid between White lands and all others, basically ending the scheme of ethnic self-determination
>>12568 Fascism is not necessarily racist. For example Brazilian integralism promotes the "Union of all races and all peoples"
>>12569 Yes, I know, I would argue that those are inferior forms of Fascism though, and that a true nation cannot be constructed on a multiracial foundation, unless all of the constituent races inhabiting the state are mixed together. And in this case, rather than creating a new, healthy nation, we get a nation of rootless cosmopolitans.
>>12568 Many non-Whites are perfectly happy living in their own little world, not wanting to come to our countries. Many of them think we are degenerates, mentally deranged. The global apartheid is true though, it's necessary. But arguing for apartheid is arguing for separation of people onto different lands. This is a definition of ethnopluralism. There are different ways to it and I too would feel much better if we were in power and charge to apply it the way we see fit, but I don't see how isolated people in their distant towns or villages are a problem.
>>12580 >I don't see how isolated people in their distant towns or villages are a problem. It's only part of their peoples. A large contingent do want to flood our lands, including many of their children and extended family, and many more only stay in their lands for lack of opportunity and when given one they will take it. So you can't really talk about the ones who do want to stay in their lands as if that negates the plurality who demand access to us.
>>12580 >Many non-Whites are perfectly happy living in their own little world If this was true, then non-Whites would not migrate to Western countries. Even chinks, want come into White countries to exploit and live along side Whites. >Many of them think we are degenerates, mentally deranged. And they're retarded, because in their own countries they also show signs of be degenerated and mentally deranged. I also don't think you even try to speak for non-Whites unless you want to admit you're a non-White yourself who supports a cosmopolitan form of fascism. >The global apartheid is true though, it's necessary. But arguing for apartheid is arguing for separation of people onto different lands. This is a definition of ethnopluralism. And it's retarded and unrealistic it's not gonna happen whatsoever. You're preaching pure fantasy and probably one of those nazbol or duginists faggots. National Socialism or even Mussolini's fascism were not supportive of ethno-pluarism, they believed that their own kind/people should be rule over others. This ethno-pluarism shit, is fucking gay.
>>12580 Ethnopluralism shouldn't be a core principle though. The bottom line is ultimately I only want Whites to survive, and I only want Whites on top of the pyramid. Note though when I say I only want Whites to survive, this doesn't mean in the sense that "all non-Whites must die", I mean it in the sense that the only one whose existence and racial integrity ultimately matters is Whites. If some system of attempting to force non-Whites into their own nations is a temporary expedient, so be it, but certainly not as an ultimate principle. Fascism is opposed to such rigid dogmas in the first place.
>>12583 Overflooding of the non-Whites from their lands definitely generates a need to move out. It's true for them like it is for us. A reduction of population is wanted no matter what. It's just a pity that the Jews are in charge now and largely focus on eradicating Whites to this effect. >>12586 >If this was true, then non-Whites would not migrate to Western countries. Even chinks, want come into White countries to exploit and live along side Whites. Debunked by the fact that we only get a percentage of them and because they are crowded in China. >And they're retarded, because in their own countries they also show signs of be degenerated and mentally deranged Which for the large part appeared as our own (((Westernized))) model touched upon their minds as our boats arrived into their ports. > I also don't think you even try to speak for non-Whites unless you want to admit you're a non-White yourself who supports a cosmopolitan form of fascism. Ethno-pluralism does not equal cosmopolitanism. I would perfectly understand if, say, Korea was off-limits to non-Koreans. >And it's retarded and unrealistic it's not gonna happen whatsoever. You're preaching pure fantasy and probably one of those nazbol or duginists faggots. The global apartheid is the very least we should apply. >National Socialism or even Mussolini's fascism were not supportive of ethno-pluarism, they believed that their own kind/people should be rule over others. That is patently false. They never had plans to rule over other people. NatSoc merely aimed at making more room for Germanic groups, while Fascism was more messy but certainly blended with a more classical form of nationalism which is natural to any people on this planet. >>12588 >Ethnopluralism shouldn't be a core principle though. The bottom line is ultimately I only want Whites to survive, and I only want Whites on top of the pyramid. That's perfectly fine coming from a White person. The racial altruism is largely poisonous. But being on top implies having something beneath. >Fascism is opposed to such rigid dogmas in the first place. Fascism is rather rigid by nature, so what's about that flexible dogma you seem to imply?
>>12932 >Fascism is rather rigid by nature, so what's about that flexible dogma you seem to imply? I was referring to Giovanni Gentile's remarks on the adaptability of Fascism and our willingness to change tactics according to the situation and needs of the moment. Of course there are key principles, we cannot deny this, but we are quite different from Marxists and other dogmatists in this sense, who love to pilpul on certain points and keep doing the same mistakes over and over without changing tactics as necessary
>>12934 This would very well be the essential reason why Fascism remains somehow a nebulous concept, a shifting ensemble of thoughts moving and living according to this polymorphic attribute, a concord of principles that comes as a vital form of adaptation fit for the survival of the purest ideas and ideals. Therefore one would seldom find a more organic way of life in harmony with Nature and its Laws than Fascism.
>>13057 Wonderfully said, anon. I could not have said it better myself. What some deride Fascism for is in truth its greatest strength. So many of the key concepts of Fascism have been twisted and misunderstood.
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