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Unpopular Opinions #2: The Autism Continues Blackshirt 08/28/2020 (Fri) 03:01:34 ID: 59e976 No.6673
Last thread is about to hit bump limit. Post ‘em.
>>7670 Shit, I guess if you don't like states you're just a big fat dumb poorly shaven idiot. What have I been thinking? I'll go make a shrine to leadership right now.
>>7704 >This guy should have axed himself. He was also the guy behind the panopticon funnily enough. >>7705 /fascist/ is an unashamedly totalitarian statist board >>>/liberty/
>>7708 >/fascist/ is an unashamedly totalitarian Except weren't most of the fascists authoritarian? Hitler and Mussolini weren't really totalitarians.
>>7716 The totalitarian character of fascism has been openly affirmed since the beginning by its most prominent figured and intellectuals. It’s important though that we don’t allow kikes to poison our perception of words like this though. They dilute and muddy the waters, the clearest example of this is with the term “fascist” itself. When Mussolini says “All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”, he is preaching totalitarianism. Some excerpts from Mussolini’s “The Doctrine of Fascism: >Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State, which stands for the conscience and the universal, will of man as a historic entity (11). It is opposed to classical liberalism which arose as a reaction to absolutism and exhausted its historical function when the State became the expression of the conscience and will of the people. Liberalism denied the State in the name of the individual; Fascism reasserts the rights of the State as expressing the real essence of the individual (12). And if liberty is to he the attribute of living men and not of abstract dummies invented by individualistic liberalism, then Fascism stands for liberty, and for the only liberty worth having, the liberty of the State and of the individual within the State (13). >The Fascist conception of the State is all embracing; outside of it no human or spiritual values can exist, much less have value. Thus understood, Fascism, is totalitarian, and the Fascist  State  - a synthesis and a unit inclusive of all values - interprets, develops, and potentates the whole life of a people (14). >No individuals or groups (political parties, cultural associations, economic unions, social classes) outside the State (15). Fascism is therefore opposed to Socialism to which unity within the State (which amalgamates classes into a single economic and ethical reality) is unknown, and which sees in history nothing but the class struggle. Fascism is likewise opposed to trade unionism as a class weapon. But when brought within the orbit of the State, Fascism recognizes the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system (16). http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm As a NatSoc myself, I can hardly see much disagreeable in the passages above. The idea of the Volksgemeinschaft is of course explicitly ethnic / racial, but it is certainly a community “in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonized in the unity of the State”, just as Mussolini writes.
>>7720 State worship is retarded, how the fuck can anyone trust a state when they are likely to fuck each other and end up cucking out? The afrikaners and their secret society a perfect example of this. You can shill totalitarianism all you want, but that's not a solution especially when you don't have competent governments that failed like Hitler's and Mussolini's.
>>7731 >governments that failed like Hitler's and Mussolini's Being gangraped by multiple countries simultaneously is not “failing” in the sense that you are thinking, nor is it a product of their ideologies
>>7732 Except they did fail you imbecile, don't even try to act like they were perfect, especially with Mussolini's government where his military staff and other politicians were being completely retarded on not knowing how to take over Southern Europe and preventing the allies from taking over Africa and coming within Italy and have the Communists excute him. The Same case is with Hitler as well with his military staff, and some disagreements within the government also fucking him over and putting in the wrong people in power who plotted his assassination. Stalin was faced the same position and would of lost of it wasn't for the Allies and Hitler attacking too early because of the Winter war in Finland. It's not about their idealolgies it's the fact that they set up a government that wasn't filled with enough people who were as capable as the Roman leaders during the Republic.
>>7748 > It's not about their idealolgies Lolbert-kun admits it.
>>7748 > it's the fact that they set up a government that wasn't filled with enough people who were as capable as the Roman leaders during the Republic. The Roman Repuic collapsed into a civil war and insisted on letting foreigners displace native farmers for cheap labor. The Roman Republic was always a clownshow.
>>7755 >Muh lolberts Great job not knowing how to read retard, but that wasn't my point try using that homo eretus brain again and understand my point. >>7770 The Roman republic still had good leadership that prevented them from entirely collapsing or and losing battles. The Punic Wars are what screwed them over really.
>>7772 >The Roman republic still had good leadership that prevented them from entirely collapsing or and losing battles. The Punic Wars are what screwed them over really. The Romans are either the biggest frauds and lairs in human history or were incredibly stupid to favor cheap labor over their race and heritage. The Romans did have excellent leaders, but they also had the worst kind of people to help them rule and govern Rome. Roman cucks destroyed their environments, because they believed that they somewhat had dominion over nature, this type of mentality is one of the major reasons that lead to it becoming so materialistic that it ended up sarcificing something most valuable for their economies. If anything Rome should be seen as an inspiration of what makes one a capable leader and that's it.
>>7748 What a fucking mental kike. To consider the deleterious action of numerous traitorous elements within the German government would be too much to ask for? Hitler was already short on resources and had to compensate for Italy's mistakes. They came close to winning in Europe nevertheless but as >>7732 said in a different way, quantity is a quality of its own. >muh eagle pizza repu As if it had not failed too.
>>7812 Resources wasn't the only reason for failure you fool are we gonna forget the incompetence? Hitler was sure as hell smart and competent enough to win, but his chain of command fucked over everything along with the traitors screwing him over you are once again missing the point and avoiding what I said like a mental retard, all you can do is cry Jew and sperg out and not argue you are an embarrass to fascists.
>>7815 >Romans, Hitler, Mussolini, all Aryans >incompetent Right, you win.
>>7602 Any reading on this?
>>7815 >competent governments that failed >are we gonna forget the incompetence? Come on, son.
>>7602 Yes they do and some Anthropologists or whatever's look into it doesn't change that Christianity and through it the jews are the source of all our ills going back more than 1900 years.
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>>7975 It makes me wonder though how Christianity was even able to get a foothold in the first place among the masses. We know it was largely imposed top-down after a certain point, but before that it was largely spread through the work of kikes such as Saul. I sometimes wonder how how high this kike's IQ was that he knew just the right time to self-style himself as "The Apostle to the Gentiles" and then to spend time writing to dozens of churches telling them to accept the goyim into their churches and to worship the kike on a stick
>>7834 Romans, Hitler, Mussolini are not Aryans you imbecile. Stop with muh Aryan shit it's so misunderstood by people and only ends up making them look like idiots. Aryans were hedonistic as well to certain extents, it does not mean some godly people it meant a group of indo europeans who were descendants of gods becoming the top leaders of civilizations or tribes. Overtime it became nothing more but a mere title just like in India.
Also here's a hot take >Economic systems like capitalism are not what's wrong with the problem today, capitalism is a whole different issue, but our real problem with the world are solely on jews taking over economcies and governments along with the fools who follow behind them being forced to having to become zionist or jewish themselves or slaves. Neoncons like Trump and the entire republican party along with the Democrats are nothing more, but tools of zionists and are forced to follow their every command.
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>>7979 >Romans, Hitler, Mussolini are not Aryans you imbecile. Lol > Aryans were hedonistic as well to certain extents Ancient Aryan thought despised degenerate hedonism and exalted self-control, discipline and rational control of the lower self. Legitimate hedonists were laughing-stocks and seen as little better than slaves
>>7975 None of that addresses how societies like Athens showed enough of the dysfunction we see tidsy and just how Christianity could have been planted when it was.
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>>7982 There definitely had to be decadence within a society for Christianity to actually take root as it did. Just look at how Rome succumbed while Japan killed them off
>>7981 >Wikipedia You're faggot, but why don't you explain to me why half of the population of India is filed with shit skins?
Or why the Greeks and the Romans became less "Aryan" over time sarcificing their native people for cheap labor, destroying their environments and mixing with non Aryans?
>>7985 You can shit on Wikipedia all you want, but it doesn't change the etymological origins of the term "Aryan". >why half of the population of India is filed with shit skins? Shitskinned Dravidians are the indigenous population of the Indian subcontinent. Aryans were never a majority and I doubt anyone here really claims otherwise. From what I have read, the Aryans who settled in the Punjab and Ganges region were a nomadic pastoral people who subjugated the numerically overwhelming non-Aryan populations. Further in the North, outside of the subcontinent, they must have been more dominate or isolated, as even we can find people who are borderline White in Northwestern Pakistan, parts of Afghanistan where people with red hair or with blue eyes can be found, or in Iran. >Or why the Greeks and the Romans became less "Aryan" over time sarcificing their native people for cheap labor, destroying their environments and mixing with non Aryans? Ignorance of racial science, ignorance of the fact that cutting down trees over generation after generation would have negative side-effects, etc. It's not that hard to figure out the reasons here. With the case of Greece and Italy, it mainly has to do with Islamic occupation and invasions over the centuries. Sicily was under Islamic rule for over a century, and Greece for centuries under the Ottomans. They got KARA BOĞA'd. At the time of Jesus, Greece was still White.
>>7993 (samefag) To add onto this, it's very possible that their over-focus on the spiritual made them completely neglect the material and thus fall into degeneracy
>>7993 >You can shit on Wikipedia all you want, but it doesn't change the etymological origins of the term "Aryan". And you can use wikipedia and alt history all you want, but it doesn't stop the fact that Aryan societies became corrupt and stop being truly Aryan. >Further in the North, outside of the subcontinent, they must have been more dominate or isolated, as even we can find people who are borderline White in Northwestern Pakistan, parts of Afghanistan where people with red hair or with blue eyes can be found, or in Iran. >Who are borderline White And yet a large number of them still have Dravadian DNA or middle eastern dna, many of the Northern part of Pakistan and Afghanistan are all either half or a third White. And by the time the Vedic civilizations were being created the Aryans still knocked up the Dravadian females. Aka miscegenation aka anti Aryan. >Ignorance of racial science, ignorance of the fact that cutting down trees over generation after generation would have negative side-effects, etc. So you agree that it's because they were too materialistic? Because the Aryans also ruled over Classical Greece. >They got KARA BOĞA'd. At the time of Jesus, Greece was still White. The turk fags didn't have sex with the Greek females that was completely forbidden under the edict and discouraged by the Ottoman government. The Eastern Roman niggers weren't White they were materialistic medcucks, you're not even trying anymore.
>KARA BOĞA'd. The fact that Turks love black men so much just goes to show how much testerone they don't have.
>>7720 >the Italian use of the word 'state' is more all-encompassing >state and people are indissoluble in Fascism; without a state to give a nation its form, the latter falls prey to all sorts of inconsistencies that constantly assault her like liquid without a container >meaning of a state, as in people Authoritarianism vs Libertarianism is a meme.
>>7980 I agree with this, a lot of fascist think that being anti-capitalists is cool and all, but it's nothing special to be honest. To blame everything solely on capitalism or to despite it so much kind also misses the point that the reason that capitalism is hedonistic and materialistic is because of Jews. The whole capitalism caused this and that is retarded, because kikes always ruin everything and most capitalists today are now either Jewish or Zionists. Small and medium White businesses who haven't fallen to kikery wouldn't do what kikes would do.
>>8009 The problem with capitalism is that it's too materialistic and needs to be reworked towards our values. I agree with you with the whole muh capitalism is quite overextgerated, but it shouldn't be forgotten that many capitalists have went against National Socialism, although many capitalists were also Jews or had connections with them.
And don't take the first sentence as me wanting capitalism, because I don't just an example of what needs to be done for it ever to be considered usable.
>>8009 It's not a hard conclusion to reach when one remembers that capitalist governments would rather side with, and give FREE (amazing, innit?) support to, communists to fight fascists. Clearly the two are not compatible, or they would never have fought, unlike capitalism and communism which are clearly very compatible with each other and best buddies at one point.
>>8009 The issue with capitalism it is inherently globalistic in logic. The aim for the usurious capitalist is profit, and they’ll do anything to produce more and get as much money as possible. To save money they’ll move production overseas or out of the country and fuck over domestic workers in favor of paying brown people pennies to produce the same product. Another capitalistic behavior is expanding markets to wider and wider areas, which lead to colonization, the bringing of technology to shitskins, and eventually (as said above) beginning to actually construct factories and production in non-White areas of the world. This alone eventually led to the undermining of the unparalled political, economic and military might of the White powers. The EU is a prime example of what I have been saying here. One of its main goals is the free movement of goods, capital and labor within Europe under a common currency. It’s easy to see how capitalists benefit from this. It’s also *very* telling to me that in the Communist Manifesto (((Marx))) has nothing for praise for the achievements of capitalism, saying: >Modern industry has established the world market, for which the discovery of America paved the way. This market has given an immense development to commerce, to navigation, to communication by land. This development has, in its turn, reacted on the extension of industry; and in proportion as industry, commerce, navigation, railways extended, in the same proportion the bourgeoisie developed, increased its capital, and pushed into the background every class handed down from the Middle Ages. >the bourgeoisie has at last, since the establishment of Modern Industry and of the world market, conquered for itself, in the modern representative State, exclusive political sway. The executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie. >The need of a constantly expanding market for its products chases the bourgeoisie over the entire surface of the globe. It must nestle everywhere, settle everywhere, establish connexions everywhere. >The bourgeoisie keeps more and more doing away with the scattered state of the population, of the means of production, and of property. It has agglomerated population, centralised the means of production, and has concentrated property in a few hands. The necessary consequence of this was political centralisation. Independent, or but loosely connected provinces, with separate interests, laws, governments, and systems of taxation, became lumped together into one nation, with one government, one code of laws, one national class-interest, one frontier, and one customs-tariff. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch01.htm#007 The materialistic and globalistic logic inherent within capitalism predisposes the capitalist to race-treason and rootless cosmopolitanism. In fact it is the preliminary system leading up to the so-called Messianic Age of the Jews (= World Communism), achieved through Tikkun Olam. Maybe some of them can be convinced to toe the national line, but the vast majority today need hung from streetlights
>>7977 The Roman empire was cosmopolitan and was assimilating alien elements in religion, customs and race. Jews made their way through it, settled in the empire's heart and kept pushing for more "rights" and more shitskins, bribing patricians politicians until they got what they wanted: a socio-religious system that was far more tolerant of their presence. They had Constantine to Theodosus II on their payrolls. None of Saul's bs would have stuck to the wall if there had not been rich and influential Jews to weave the mesh of corruption. It's exactly the same modus operandi as they use today. Hence why a true, applied practice of 14—88 will save Whites. Nothing else. >>7979 >Romans, Hitler, Mussolini are not Aryans you imbecile. Then your mother belongs to a zoo? Please, get real. >Aryans were hedonistic as well to certain extents Nope. All people like to have the good life but those who lived in harsher conditions and isolated from non-Aryans did very fine. In more temperature areas, only discipline and territorial segregation can bring about a proper emulation of these conditions, precisely to counter-act any propensity to hedonism. >it does not mean some godly people it meant a group of indo europeans who were descendants of gods becoming the top leaders of civilizations or tribes. Being "godly" precisely is being descendant of gods. > Overtime it became nothing more but a mere title just like in India. That's because of miscegenation that affected culture (mind), destroying the spiritual race which, without surprise, led to the destruction of the biological race.
>>7980 Capitalism is a symptom. It will cease to be as soon as degeneracy and kikes get BTFO. >>7981 >Freeman/men Franks literally means free (men). Jews twisted this notion of divine freedom into the freedom of slaves to ruin everything. They subvert all by inverting values.
>>7983 >CZC As much as this man was great, there is much irony in knowing he was a devout Catholic. It's a pity how Christians can see problems relating to Jews in all domains of life BUT spirituality, which is yet the highest cause of all. >>7985 >half Sure you didn't mean 99.999999999999999999% instead? >>7986 Perhaps read William L. Pierce's Who We Are. >>7993 >At the time of Jesus, Greece was still White. I'm afraid that by then, the higher element had already diluted in the mass of indigenous people who had been subdued by the Doric element many centuries before. It always is a question of numbers here (demographics). >>7994 Let's not underestimate the influence of Asian ideas. Buddhism quickly degenerated and spilled into the Middle East and beyond too. Around the time of the mythical Jesus, Hellenized Jews were already a thing. Compare ideas in the United States circa 1900 and what we got in 2000. Now remove the acceleration allowed by electronic media platforms and it's easy to see how in a more conservative environment (and this might need to be questioned too) beliefs and attitudes took three to five centuries to take hold in a large cultural area.
>>8009 The only race and only culture leftists are allowed to hate are White in nature. Beyond that, they solely attack economical and social constructs through communism vs capitalism. They literally are the definition of useful idiots. >capitalism is hedonistic and materialistic is because of Jews No, capitalism is not an Aryan concept. We always see work through the lens of a noble activity, but there is none of that needed in capitalism. There is no moral, no virtue. Hence the need to have a word that properly identifies our understanding of work and sane retribution without the allowances found in capitalism. The moment you "aryanize" capitalism, it stops being capitalism. This distinction is very necessary because Westerns, above all Americans, are very confused about this.
>>8036 I was under the impression that Codreanu was Orthodox, but regardless of what type of Christian he was, it really is ironic how they cannot understand (or perhaps refuse to understand) that their religion is Jewish in origin. I wonder what Codreanu would think of a Jew who "converted" to Christianity.
>>7913 >2nd tweet >Imperium Press: The root of all whig history, of all linear history, is transcendence. The transcendent principle ("progress, reason") lacks mythology and relies on human affairs to embody it--to transcend even itself. Human affairs must constantly oblige if it is not to become a deus otiosus. >Nacional-TaylorSwiftismo: Which books deal with this issue? >Imperium Press: Nothing I've read deals with this specifically, but when transcendent theology comes into the picture in the Axial Age transition, so does linear history, eschatology, etc. The same thing happens with progressivism; there's some sort of connection here. Sounds like one or two of the Baron's book could help here?
>>8042 Some Jews find it alluring because they see how a rabbi brought gentiles to their knees, crying for him. They also see, especially today in many modern forms of Christianity, that although God once made the Jews his chosen ones, salvation will come through the Jews. So going with Christianity is a way for them to be even more cosmopolitan.
>>8045 Going with Christianity makes them blend in far better too. One of the greatest weaknesses of Christians is that once some Jew converts, they think that the problem is solved. The goyim have swallowed the rhetoric of "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free" wholesale, just as Whites do with multiculturalist propaganda that race is skin deep only. >They also see, especially today in many modern forms of Christianity, that although God once made the Jews his chosen ones, salvation will come through the Jews I think this interpretation is pretty much unavoidable too. We of course have the parts of the Old Testament which talk of the entire world bowing down to Zion, and how the Jews will "suck the milk of nations", destroy all who oppose them and will serve as a "priestly nation", but even in the New Testament we learn (like you said) "Salvation is from the Jews" (John 4:22), and according to Paul the Jews have not been rejected by God. In Romans 9:4-5 Paul says of the Israelites that >"to them belong the adoption, the glory, the covenants, and the promises; to them belong the patriarchs, and from them, according to the flesh, comes the Messiah... Adoption is referring to how the Jews are "God's Children" similar to Exodus 4:22 and Jeremiah 31:9. And then even more clearly in Romans 11:1-2 we get an even more direct confirmation of the Jews chosen status: >I ask, then, has God rejected his people? By no means! I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew. He later says that "...the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable" in Romans 11:29. My NRSV study Bible says that "the calling of God" is another way to refer to God's election of Israel, ergo they're chosen and are going to remain chosen, and salvation from them. You can't unkike Christianity. I have literally redpilled someone on the Jews and had them tell me that it's possible what the Jews are doing is potentially "God's plan". It's literally a mind virus
The propagation of atheism should be illegal, and it has zero positive contribution to society.
>>8245 Wrong. It actually is useful in rejecting the dominant alien cult in the White Western World: Christianity. It cleans the room so one can start afresh. Now, being stuck on atheism is another problem.
>>8249 I wonder if it's more beneficial though to negate all spirituality first and then to build on top of the clean slate like you say, just bearing the consequences, or merely to put something better in its place immediately. Christcuckery is already rotten and has been for centuries. Something stronger will displace it when it arrives
>>8034 >Then your mother belongs to a zoo? Please, get real no info? no sources? No proof that they're Aryan? Wow shocking that a monkey brain would not provide an argument. >Nope. All people like to have the good life but those who lived in harsher conditions and isolated from non-Aryans did very fine. In more temperature areas, only discipline and territorial segregation can bring about a proper emulation of these conditions, precisely to counter-act any propensity to hedonism. This literally makes zero sense and you still haven't answered my question on why the Aryans knocked up Dravadians and Meds if they weren't hedonistic. >Being "godly" precisely is being descendant of gods. Except what part of the Aryans were godly? If they were godly they have made mistakes and done stupid things as well, what part of the Aryans were not gods do you not understand buddy? >That's because of miscegenation that affected culture (mind), destroying the spiritual race which, without surprise, led to the destruction of the biological race. It's also because the Aryans given the title put to anyone they liked or put those who were unequal as equal as they are.
>>8044 That person keeps shilling his twitter.
>>8252 I've met enough Christians who have a change of faith, going through a state of mind that scares them because it's a void of some kind, a no man's land. Then, there are different shades of atheism and the radical one remains quite pointless and stupid.

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