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Indo-European Religion / Paganism Thread Blackshirt 04/28/2020 (Tue) 19:39:58 ID: fe0edb No.10
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>>2174 Why are you re-writing Plato's Republic with Pajeet language?
>>2145 It's about much earlier European kinship and social organization, the one that wasn't too different from that. Feudalism was already tainted with Abrahamism, and it's quite far from the ideal government. >I've tried using sources and arguments It mostly consisted of ad hominems. What do you believe in anyway? I just wanted to write "Could you write a longer essay covering your worldview, beliefs and philosophy" when another anon made this post >>2174 You can hardly say that you truly understand anything if you can't even write a series of longer posts explaining it. >>2146 Jews are shilling it today for the same reason that other people have shilled it in the past. More meat, milk and honey for them, none for you. They become smarter, healthier and stronger (well, not the Jews due to being genetic abominations, but still), you become dumber, sicker and weaker. Simple as. Vegetarianism, while acceptable, is still an inferior diet compared to carnivorous (omnivorous) one. They tend to use the same ethical (religious) arguments so it's only a question of time until a vegetarian becomes a vegan, if he truly practices what he preaches. >>2175 Plato's philosophy and Dharmic worldview have a lot in common.
>>2175 You're making the mistake of thinking that Plato was the first one to have thought of such ideas. Traditionally-speaking Indo-European society is theorized to have been divided into three classes - priests, warriors and commoners, or to word it slightly differently, there was a division between religious, martial / administrative and economic functions - the trifunctional hypothesis. Within Vedic society we can see one example of this Indo-European social structure in the quadrapartite varna (lit. color) system. The specific Dharma of each group shows considerable variation. Looking from the bottom to the top of the hierarchy, the Dharma of the shudra (servant, laborer) is to serve others, that of the vaishya (merchant, businessman) to produce wealth, of the kshatriya to defend society and even to risk his life for it along with various judicial functions, represented to the highest degree by the king, who traditional hailed from this caste, and finally that of the brahmin, which is to attend to various religious and ritual matters as a spiritual and intellectual authority. Obviously this is extremely similar to what Plato put into writing. His might even be a purer echo of this system, as overtime the Vedic system seems to have fossilized into an exclusively hereditary system, while in Plato's version there is social mobility in order to sort each individual into the correct milieu befitting his or her nature (basically Svadharma)
>>2179 I don't need a history lesson, tiger. My point is that Plato says all that shit without any hint of Poo taint, and is still, even among the most leftist line, the Foundation Of Philosophy, and yet still you can't sell fascism this way. Why do you think writing The Republic over again but with cartoonist antisemitism and language associated with Poos will convert whites to fascism? If your intent is simply to write a philosophical book about these subjects, then why not skip all the elementary school QRD shit and just dive into whatever you have to say? Are you just trying to update and dumb down Evola and Guenon? I understand that for a few reasons. One of which is that both Guenon and Evola thought that Advaita and Tantra were Aryan when they are dead obviously and well established as DRAVIDIAN. Not to mention their ridiculous pseud obscurantism. My question is, if you're just saying what Plato said, don't rewrite Plato! Just propose why people should follow Plato and HOW you expect people to implement this in contemporary technological society.
>>2170 Lol. >>2174 I like what you've got. >>2181 >Guenon and Evola thought that Advaita and Tantra were Aryan when they are dead obviously and well established as DRAVIDIAN Can't Aryans develop what others have created?
>>2181 You're misunderstanding my intentions, it was not meant to be a book, it was supposed to be an introduction to the basic ideas that someone could look over in less than a half an hour to get a QRD on the whole thing. I have no pretenses for originality.
>>2184 As long as you're having fun
>>2187 No, I realized that I wasn't satisfied completely in my work so I stopped working on it. I only posted it on request.
>>2189 Let's talk about a subject that was brought up in another thread but is relevant here as well: Do we want slaves and slavery? How many of us are separatist and not world-order people? Because I'm a National-Anarchist mixed with Strasserism. I don't want a herd of nigger cattle doing my work for me, as Aristotle did. How much do we want Aristotle? I personally despise him and feel his work is absolute dogshit. I do recognize that it you're going to have a multicultural world society, you have to go Brave New World with it and have the Varnashrama. At this point though, we're NOT getting control until after a collapse, and then it will be in a distributed fashion anyway. Even if the major NATO governments collapsed tomorrow officially, the system would remain and degenerate over hundreds of years like Roman Empire. Of course there's PRC and Russia to contend with, although in different ways they are /ourguys/. (PRC is ethnonationalist and authoritarian and Traditionalist, RF is same).
>>2192 >Do we want slaves and slavery? Most wagecucks would be better off if they were enslaved, but they'll never realize this. Slaves are taken care of, fed, clothed and sheltered. Owners have an incentive to see you healthy. Slavery = bad is NPC cope. People today think "w-well at least I'm not a slave" when they work longer than any chattel slave in history. The edjewcation system spends so much time guilt-tripping over slavery that lemmings are brainwashed to think that they are so much better off than slaves. Do we want slaves? Slaves will probably reappear in the future, especially if we abolish many forms of labor-saving technology (which needs to be done). >I don't want a herd of nigger cattle doing my work for me, as Aristotle did. I don't want nigger-cattle doing my work either. Aristotle saw that slavery was the best condition for those with a naturally slavish disposition. Race didn't really come into play. It will be NPC-whites owned by their Aryan masters, if anything. No one wants to make the mistake again of having the genetic refuse of non-whites in our lands again. They need depopulated largely anyways. >Because I'm a National-Anarchist mixed with Strasserism. Tribalism is more organic than Nationalism, but we live in an age where the Nation-State is the prime actor. If we do not act nationally, we have no chances. Statist power must be used to crush our enemies and implement our vision of a New Order. >How many of us are separatist and not world-order people? I'm a separatist with visions for a world-order.
>>2193 >We should enslave all the poor whites Wow have fun selling that shit, surely the sleeping giant will awaken
>>2195 In the ideal future most whites would be working in subsistence agriculture. Your idea of "all the poor whites" being enslaved is a strawman. This said, in a general sense there are certain things that the populace doesn't need to know about. From an ecofascist perspective are we really going to tell the masses that it is an absolute necessity to depopulate parts of the Earth for our own good and the good of ecosphere as a whole? No, you make it a fait accompli. This same government will have to bring about a complete stoppage of economic growth, and even a state of extreme economic depression. It won't be democratic, obviously, but this is the only way forward.
>>2196 Just like the slavery thing, with your mass murder plan: who makes the lists? Do you think it's going to be you? Or the rich backers that arm the militia you're in? Because unless you're at least a multimillionaire, you're poor. As an aside, regional nuclear war (koreas against each other, israel-iran, Pakistan-india &c) would solve your Linkola problem. 1. It would set back the climate clock from 100-300 years 2. It would cause famines due to dehumidification and lack of sunlight, disease due to the rapid climate swing, and wars over same resources. You then implement existing green technologies and create a post-scarcity Feudalism as the world readjusts and recovers.
>>2070 to me process philosophy is just the prakriti part of samkhya philosphy. its only a stepping stone to realizing the more important part of reality, the one that observes the process. the idea of all of reality as being a continuous process was realized and moved on with by declaring the observer (purusha) of the process is in contrast never changing and eternal. >>2102 >post prabhupada translations prabhupadas english grammar wasnt the best, theres one verse in bhagavad gita thats very bad. this is the main cover for changing his books. if you look online you can find websites that point out where they changed not just the translations, but changed the meanings of his commentaries on the translations. >devi-bhagavata purana how was that compared to bhagavata purana? there are people who claim that bhagavata purana is bogus and that the devi-bhagavata one is the real one. >>2107 >>2106 monkey on a stick was good, but the author made some of those convos up. henry doktorskis books are very detailed into things that went down and i think quite unbiased despite the fact he is a believer. also anyone interested in how ISKCON is degenerate pozz should check out this website: lastingimpression.info this guy seems to have been intitiated by the same guy as the dharmanation guy, but somehow is in a different sampradaya. >>2130 i dont think an avatar of god is required to bring in the mini golden age of kali yuga. 10k years out of 432k yrs, probably wasnt the nsdap and we have a long time to go for it to happen if not in our lives >crazy vegans veganism =/= vegetarianism. the idea that you can find a video of vegans/vegetarians doing something stupid means nothing. i can easily present you videos of meat eaters acting retarded, which is probably every single video,story, etc, of someone doing something retarded and acting insane that you have ever read or watched. >aryans invented vegetarianism to control dravidians source? or is that just your speculation? they definitely ate meat because they talk about sacrificing animals a lot. milk drinking and honey are not against vegetarianism though, again vegetarianism =/= veganism. >veganism is literal candala diet candala actually means dog eater, so no. i think that ancient aryans ate meat but only through the rituals of sacrifices. the lower classes (dravidians) probably didnt partake in the sacrifices but still ate meat anyway, more specifically dog, because candala means dog eater. vaishnav sects will claim that after the original purpose of vedic sacifice of animals was forgotten and people only sacrificed animals to eat the meat vishnu incarnated as buddha to spread buddhism to stop them from doing so, and after buddhism wiped out hinduism shiva incarnated as adi shankaracarya to bring hinduism back. the vedic sacrifice of animals is said to be a phenomonenon of the dvapara yuga and not the other yugas in the puranas. its interesting that jains take the credit for stopping the sacrifice of animals, and they also claim to have written the vedas and invented hundreds of religions for people to worship as well. personally i am inclined to beleive that the original aryans and the whole world followed the jain religion and that animal sacrifice was a later invention as religion became diluted due to global degeneration.
>>2178 >Vegetarianism, while acceptable, is still an inferior diet compared to carnivorous (omnivorous) one. They tend to use the same ethical (religious) arguments so it's only a question of time until a vegetarian becomes a vegan, if he truly practices what he preaches. Vegetarianism is more than just an ethical decision. in the dharmic religions you will notice that health is synonymous with holy and that someone who is holy is also very healthy, and that things that are immoral and unethical are also bad for you. vegetarianism was seen as a moral good not just because its about not killing animals but because it was better and healthier for your body and mind, which need to be in good condition. the human body is a vessel for the most important work of a souls journey, so every measure for the assurance of its good health and proper functioning is considered a religious act. this included abstaining from meat.
>>2192 >>2193 the thing about slavery and the varna system that people tend to overlook is most people are born with that nature inborn to them. the varna system of 4 tiers is based on the samkhya philosphy of 3 gunas, modes of action existing together in different proportions in everyones nature >preists/scholars: goodness >rulers/warriors: goodnes/passion >artisans/farmers/traders: passion/ignorance >laborers/slaves: ignorance There is a population of people who dont have the inner nature to be a preist/scholar, ruler/warrior, farmer/artisan/trader and theres nothing you can do about it. varna system is never artificially implemented it is just taking advantage of and organizing people the way they naturally come. if we want to get rid of the slave class we need to look to something like crispr or an intense eugenics program, because droids and slaves and dumb laborers tend to be produced in a much greater ratio than the other types.
a discussion on whether or not to have a slave class merits its own thread honestly.
>>2229 >personally i am inclined to beleive that the original aryans and the whole world followed the jain religion and that animal sacrifice was a later invention as religion became diluted due to global degeneration. Hahaha
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>>2231 Exactly. Some people are naturally slavish according to their svadharma (or whatever term one would want to use). Just think of the millions of wage-slaves who are proud of being wagies. They think their work is what makes them 'useful', 'good citizens', 'fulfilled' and so on. This is a natural slave. Today increasingly the whole world is imbued in such a mindset of slave morality, wishing to turn all into worker drones
>>2246 its funny you post that picture, i remember prabhupada wrote in a commentary somewhere that someone of a higher caste would never accept employment for a means of living.
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>>2263 I think the Law of Manu echoes similar statements on how it is disgraceful for those of higher castes to do such work. And none of this is surprising, a lot of ancient Aryans condemned wage labor and lives of physical labor (Aristotle and Cicero in particular, if I recall correctly). I adhere to this sort of idea as well, I only have contempt for the wage-cuck existence, but I think there is still a seed of decadence in these ideals. Once the blond beast gets too comfortable on his laurels its only a matter of time before he becomes fat and decadent
>>2192 >Do we want slaves and slavery? No, slavery is degenerate and white man's destiny is to be free, while enslaving lesser races always backfires and leads to extinction in the long run. That being said, some people are naturally inclined towards obedience and simple but demanding labor. Nature has kind of balanced things out, remove kikes, kike ideologies (including the ever-pervading Talmudic law and it's derivatives) and non-whites, and people will eventually fit in just right where they belong, they will even cherish their roles as long as they are appreciated by the others. Women need considerably less rights though, as they don't have the rational capacity and mental maturity to have as much freedom as they have today, which leads to absolute corruption and decay. Once we eugenically breed women to be near the level of men, then they can have their rights back. You'd be surprised how easy it is to create a near-perfect society as long as trash is being thrown out instead of being appointed as rulers. Even people like Plato figured it out back in the day. >How many of us are separatist and not world-order people? I'm for white ethnoglobe, with some non-white minorities made of best people that their race had to offer. Since that's hardly viable, our best bet would be to forge a white ethnostate somewhere, somehow, and get all like-minded people there. All while preserving the unique ethnicities and nationalities instead of going full amerimutt. You know what fasces represent, right? >(PRC is ethnonationalist and authoritarian and Traditionalist, RF is same). China is ironically quite close to being national-socialist, but they are way too corrupt, materialistic and have horrible mentality. Also a testing ground for gigakike social experiments. Russia is personal property of Khazar oligarchs although people can be rather decent. I think Russians are prevailing in spite of the Jewish mafia ruling their country, rather than thanks to it. >>2229 >I dont think an avatar of god is required to bring in the mini golden age of kali yuga Maybe not THE god, but a lesser avatar for certain. Do you think it just happens on it's own? It takes TREMENDOUS will of the right group of people to achieve something like that. Divine people, Heroes, Demigods. This is what most of NSDAP leadership was. >10k years out of 432k yrs Those predictions are ridiculous and a result of profane minds contemplating higher wisdom. The same Dravidians of today who wallow in their own poo for eternity waiting for something that will never come. >the idea that you can find a video of vegans/vegetarians doing something stupid means nothing. i can easily present you videos of meat eaters acting retarded The difference being that they are doing it precisely because of veganism/vegetarianism. Vegetarianism is a pointless diet in a post-scarcity society (unless due to health issues). It was always meant for ascetics following a particular path, but there is nothing inherently more noble about it, that's just idiotic virtue signalling not rooted in reason. Vegans are mostly mentally ill people. I have yet to meet a vegan who is a sane and balanced person. >or is that just your speculation? It's pretty much obvious. It was not part of Aryan lore until they started mixing with Dravidians on a larger scale. It was either invented in an attempt to stop Dravidians from stealing Aryans' cattle, or it was a Dravidian belief to begin with. >candala actually means dog eater, so no. Meaning they had no access to more edible animals. >I think that ancient aryans ate meat but only through the rituals of sacrifices Meat was very scarce back than, in fact, it was quite scarce until relatively recently. Our ancestors could afford eating it only occasionally. It was a special occasion, and it was naturally associated with religious rituals because it was a delicacy (food worthy of gods) , and people needed context for eating it. >personally i am inclined to beleive that the original aryans and the whole world followed the jain religion and that animal sacrifice was a later invention as religion became diluted due to global degeneration. I'd rather say it was the opposite. Not eating meat was mostly a result of cope and oversocialization, but you may have a point, maybe people just really wanted to eat meat (because it's natural and delicious) so they found an excuse for it by masking it as a sacrifice to the gods. On another hand, ancient Aryans could hardly spread so far by conquest if they didn't eat it. Maybe Aryan expansion was a result of dvapara yuga. A lot of things to consider.
>>2263 >someone of a higher caste would never accept employment for a means of living. >>2264 >how it is disgraceful for those of higher castes to do such work. And none of this is surprising, a lot of ancient Aryans condemned wage labor and lives of physical labor (Aristotle and Cicero in particular, if I recall correctly) You know who has these beliefs today, right? Yes, (((them))). Also, interestingly enough, the Gypsies. That group of pajeets who were so bad that they got kicked out of India. They consider everyone doing honest work to be a subhuman, have their parallel institutions (they even have kings despite being completely lawless in a civic sense), and most of their 'work' constitutes of stealing, begging, cheating, cheap entertainment and prostitution. Quite ironic, no? Or is it? I mean, I'm not exactly a fan of physical labor myself, but there is a world of difference between being a higher individual whose talents would be wasted on mundane activities and being a gypsykike. Context is very important here.
>>2269 >Meat was very scarce back than, in fact, it was quite scarce until relatively recently. Our ancestors could afford eating it only occasionally. It was a special occasion, and it was naturally associated with religious rituals because it was a delicacy (food worthy of gods) , and people needed context for eating it. This is such bullshit considering the vast population of megafauna and fauna in general. Our ancestors ate loads of meat. Liberal Academic memery
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>>2270 I think there is a difference, personally, between aristocratic conceptions of physical labor and those of rootless subhumans. The former is a direct result of the master-status of the aristocrat. He has power over the lesser by virtue of his position and can dominate and exploit others from it. This is direct, unabashed might being right. It reminds of a passage in 'Twilight of the Idols' on the value of egoism / selfishness. To Nietzsche selfishness is commendable when it is practiced by those representing ascendant life. With the degenerating, descending, lowly, what they do is a type of worthless parasitism.
>>2272 So what's aristocratic physical labor and subhuman physical labor? this is one of the questions I was thinking about for a while.
>>2271 >Megafauna Are you going to say humans hunted mammoth while riding dinosaurs too? Meet has always been a luxury. It's something you some times have not always have. If you had meat every day as a hunter gatherer you would run out of things to kill really fast. As a farmer you couldn't preserve that much meat long term and it's needed for the winter. For your average peon eating meat on a Sunday would be about as good as it's getting. They didn't eat meat daily like we did. >>2274 Sculpting, engineering and other high education jobs that require labour.
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>>2274 >So what's aristocratic physical labor Traditionally, I'd say, warfare. It's important to see that many forms of ancient warfare were far from how we envision it today, i.e. just the imposition of brute force and slaughter. It appears to have been much more ritualistic and honor-based. Just look at some of the principles for Dharma-yuddha, or a Dharmic war — two warriors could only duel if they carry the same weapons or if they are on the same mount, multiple warriors must not attack a single warrior, no 'unfair' war allowed, no one who was not part of the war was to be injured, etc. Some of these were broken in the course of the battle but this is an example of Aryan aristocratic warfare in ancient times. Today warfare has become a thing which mobilizes entire nations of millions and leads to mass death and destruction. Sadly the aristocratic conception of warfare may be a thing of the past now due to technological advancement. The lions left the shade of their trees to spill their blood and prove themselves, only to return and bask in their glory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma-yuddha
>>2275 You are an ignorant motherfucker you know that? >>2274 Aristocracy is well described by the example of Rama. Read the first few chapters of the first volume of Ramayana and you'll get it. For example (but not limited to): >Among them, the greatly energetic Rama brought great delight to his father. Endowed with superior qualities, he was like Svayambhu3 to creatures. When Bharata had gone, Rama and the immensely strong Lakshmana tended to their father, who was like a god. Placing his father’s instructions at the forefront, Rama, with dharma in his soul, performed all the agreeable and pleasant tasks required by the citizens. Supremely attentive, he tended to all the tasks required by their mothers. All the time, he took care of all the tasks required by the preceptors. In this way, because of Rama’s good conduct, Dasharatha, the learned brahmanas and all the residents of the kingdom were delighted. He was also peaceful in his soul and spoke gently. He did not respond to harsh and loud words spoken by others. He was content with whatever good deed was done to him. Even if a hundred acts of injury were committed against him, he did not remember them. Whenever he found time while practising with weapons, he always conversed with those who were aged, whether they were aged in conduct or wisdom, and with virtuous people. His birth was fortunate. He was virtuous and not distressed. He was truthful and upright. He was instructed by aged brahmanas who were conversant with dharma and artha. He knew about dharma, artha and kama.4 He possessed memory and innate intelligence. He was skilled and accomplished in prevalent customs. He knew about the sacred texts and about how they should be followed. He understood differences among people. He was accomplished in policy and knew about whom to reward and whom to punish. He knew about earning revenue and was accomplished in the techniques of expenditure. He obtained instructions about the best collections of sacred texts and about the ancillary texts. He knew that artha should not be accumulated through adharma. He was not lazy when pursuing pleasure. He was acquainted with details about artisanship and the fine arts. He knew how to control and ride elephants and horses. He was best among those who knew about dhanurveda. The world revered him as an atiratha.5 He was accomplished in commanding armies and could strike while advancing. The prince exhibited the best of qualities while dealing with the subjects. He was revered in the three worlds and his qualities of forgiveness was like those of the earth. He was like Brihaspati6 in his wisdom and like Shachi’s consort7 in his valour. He was thus loved by all the subjects and brought joy to his father. Rama was radiant in his qualities, like the sun with its rays. He followed all the vows and his valour was unassailable. The earth desired him as her protector, as if he was a guardian of the world. Rama was endowed with many such supreme qualities.
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Assuming for a moment that you are (1) able to get into power, and (2) are in a position stable enough to to actual influence state policy, how would you approach the issue of religious policy? Personally, I see our ultimate goal as a true European Renaissance. The main political objective is the overcoming of liberal democracy and egalitarianism, while the religious side of the equation is to bring a new spiritual / philosophical basis to government. I don't the forcing of some artificial or reconstructed pagan religion as the correct path to take, but rather the creation of a Aryan spiritual atmosphere. This can easily be brought about by a government through privileging the teaching of European mythologies in schools, use of certain symbols by the government and related organizations, promotion / production of entertainment for the masses on many of these themes and in the spirit of Aryan religions and values. Mass participation is certain events / rallies organized by the state could go a long way in integrating the people into this new atmosphere as participants and spectators -- just look at the massive National Socialist rallies. In many ways, I believe, National Socialism was the rebirth of Indo-European paganism even if they were not wholly aware. I believe this is the path, but a slightly more spiritually tinged version. Concerning the "freedom of religion", it won't exist. I don't see anything good coming from directly attacking Christianity, as it will only fuel their persecution complex, but Judaism should be stamped out, as well as well as the propagation of atheism. It doesn't matter if you don't believe in some form of theism, but it's undeniable harmful to the public to expose them to this type of thinking. Call it a "Noble Lie" if you like, but I've had enough of nihilistic atheists, they're almost worse than Christians.
What tradition do you guys follow? It seems like its mainly Hindui/Sanatana Dharmists here. I'm guessing most of you are Vaishnav. Any Savaites or Shaktas?
>>2271 >meat was very scarce back then not in vedic times, where they talk about sacrificing thousands and thousands of horses and cows and other animals. tonnes of ghee, mind boggling amounts of all kinds of resources. the vedic sacrifices could not be performed today. in the vedic literatures as the world becomes more degenerate the earth also gives less vegetation, cows give less milk, etc
>>2270 if i recall correctly, gypsies and kikes breathe air as well. am i wrong here? i think you need to cover all your bases.
>>2269 >>2269 >dravidians >pooo pooo >vegetables bad >meat good. meat tasty. >dogs are vegetables >cope
>>2336 >>2334 >>2333 Try to put your replies in one post instead of posting multiple times.
>>2313 Shaivism and Shaktism are Dravidian.
>>2345 . . . as opposed to Arya = Vaishnavism? Sorry if the question seems basic I'm still learning as a newcomer.
>>2387 yes. shaivism has a weird ascetic culture. packs of wandering naked yogis that smear ashes on their bodies, vow to do things like only eat/drink out of a skull, then the aghoris do things like eat poop and excrement. shiva is known to be a lord of these kinds of things in vaishnav puranas but should still be respected. i know less about shaktism, but its female worship and somewhere they worship a "menstruating" statue if that tells you anything. the values and ethics of vaishnavism are much more palatable to europeans. dharmanation guy said in a video that you would practice shaktism as a worship of the material world and theres a lot of focus on energy and super powers, shaivism is to renounce all activity and merge into the impersonal absolute reality blurring the lines between theism and non-theism, saying you are god. vaishnavism is where the ultimate aim is to serve a higher being renouncing the material world, but not activity or individuality.
>>2390 >renouncing the material world, but not activity or individuality. Sounds degenerate and life-denying. All one needs to do is live in accordance with the Laws of Nature to truly prosper.
>>2394 Can you elaborate?
>>2406 There are Laws of Nature, a Natural Order, which exists entirely independently of the will of man; it is immutable and we deny it at our risk. Many of its laws are well-known to people here, such as the daily struggle for existence among all life, hierarchy and differentiation, the will to life, etc. Man can flaunt these Laws of Nature, but at what cost? Will he grow healthier? Stronger? Will his offspring be more vigorous and healthy? Man does not exist apart from Nature, no matter how much we deny it, or falsely think that we are "conquerors of Nature". National Socialism is a philosophy which embodies this eternal urge for survival, for higher and higher levels of existence and perfection, towards God. This is not done through artificially engineering man through laws to be "equal" with lower men, or allowing weaklings, degenerates and retards to proliferate in our nations. If a nation condemns itself to impotence, unnatural lifestyles and environments, transgender abominations, obesity, degeneracy and other freakish and abnormal behaviors, it will not grow stronger, better, more beautiful, it will decline and degenerate, it is not ascending life, it is descending life. I don't believe that there is a reality beyond this one, or some sort of "Heaven" or "Hell" beyond this one, and believe that these notions are all products of human speculation and decadence which denigrate the beauty of this world and our own lives we live within it. Of course, none of this is particularly original and you can read similar things said by Hitler, Nietzsche, Rockwell and the like.
>>2409 You sound like you'd fit in here. >>2125
>>2422 I wouldn't mind checking it out, I just don't know how secure that program or website is
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About to take the Aztecpill, wish me luck
>>2394 the opposite. vaishnavism views the material world and the laws of nature as degenerate and life denying. the laws of god are superior to the laws of nature. >>2409 >There are Laws of Nature, a Natural Order, which exists entirely independently of the will of man; it is immutable and we deny it at our risk this is stated in the bhagavata purana >Man does not exist apart from Nature the whole vedic paradigm is built upon the realization that we are seperate from this "nature" and that the world we are in is an unsalvageable degenerate hellhole that will only drag you down with it and is indeed designed to do so. > If a nation condemns itself to impotence, unnatural lifestyles and environments, transgender abominations, obesity, degeneracy and other freakish and abnormal behaviors they believed these behaviors resulted from the embrace of the material world and that the rejection of the material world and nature, viewing all beings as being trapped in a ghetto neighborhood, is regenerate, while embracing nature and the material world will eventually turn you into a freakish abomination that lives in the depths of patala. >I don't believe that there is a reality beyond this one, or some sort of "Heaven" or "Hell" beyond this one im hesitant to outright deny them, but i certainly think that we should be making our decisions without regard for an afterlife. we should be concerned with the actions themselves and not just the fruits of our actions, because the actions we take are what really determine how we change into what we are. realizing our true existence is spiritual and not material will give us the power to conquer the material world and degeneracy along with it. seeing ourselves as not fundamentally spiritual, but just animals trapped in nature and wholly beholden to its laws will make us transform into animals on two legs, also known as niggers.
>>2508 >vaishnavism views the material world and the laws of nature as degenerate and life denying. the laws of god are superior to the laws of nature. Is not Nature a product and / or manifestation of God? The Laws of Nature are the Laws of God. >we are in is an unsalvageable degenerate hellhole that will only drag you down with it and is indeed designed to do so. It makes me wonder what state of mind the formulators of this doctrine were in to think that life is no more than an "unsalvageable degenerate hellhole". This reality is neutral in value, it is not good or evil, it simply is.
Why did this get deleted as it's own thread?
>>2563 I typically delete one-liners that are just questions since they’re better QTDDTOT material. I wish I had a way to tell anons why something is deleted. Maybe I should post that in the meta thread when I do something like that.
A couple books about Arya Samaj
>>2517 >It makes me wonder what state of mind the formulators of this doctrine were in That the world around them is the ghetto and somewhere out there is a white neighborhood

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