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Indo-European Religion / Paganism Thread Blackshirt 04/28/2020 (Tue) 19:39:58 ID: fe0edb No.10 [Reply] [Last]
Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Asatru, Rodnovery - whatever you like to study or even practice, post about ITT. Channels: Survive the Jive: https://www.youtube.com/user/ThomasRowsell DharmaNation: https://www.youtube.com/user/DharmaNation Partial ThuleanPerspective Archive: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/hhoe86QNkKLo/
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>>2517 >It makes me wonder what state of mind the formulators of this doctrine were in That the world around them is the ghetto and somewhere out there is a white neighborhood
Is anyone here actively involved with any sort of neopagan group or pro-white new religious movements?
Do we recognize different religions as the perspective of different racial abstractions of the same events? Much like languages, so too are the spiritual and esoteric aspects different across places. The only difference between the dharmapill and the paganpill and the christpill are the ascendants who lead the charge, and the language and interpretation. Don't forget also, that these things change across time as languages and abstractions change themselves. Things get 'lost in translation'. Certain bible passages may make no sense in the modern day, much like the epics of greece are considered fiction. If this is widely agreed on slash already been discussed, forgive me. Just returned.
>>2898 >Do we recognize different religions as the perspective of different racial abstractions of the same events? To an extent I believe this, but I would qualify my stance a bit. The original pagan traditions (it might be incorrect to speak of 'religions' given the fact that there was no separation between secular and religious) were certainly the product of different ethnic groups / races interpreting the world according to their unique perspectives on the world around them, which was further shaped according to lived experience over time. These worldviews were spontaneously and organically developed. In a way they might be the most faithful to our nature, but this is probably debatable. On top of this, I would argue that it would be an error to say that one racial group has one perspective -- there might be a common core of attitudes, but different types of life will generate different expressions of this (see the difference between master and slave moralities and how those are thought to originate, especially with the slave mentality being a countermovement against the master's). The different religious / spiritual "pills" of course have many commonalities because we are, regardless of race or place in society, observing and interpreting the same reality. I can't go far enough to say that they are necessarily equal though, obviously. Some are undeniably harmful and life-denying. There is such thing as Truth in that independent of us exists Nature and its Laws which operate regardless of what we think of them or what we do. We ignore them at our own detriment. That hopefully made some sense
Daily reminder: Sophists > Presocratics > Aristotle > Plato / Socrates

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A E S T H E T I C S . T H R E A D Blackshirt 06/11/2020 (Thu) 05:52:39 ID: 07132f No.961 [Reply] [Last]
For the discussion, sharing, development, nurturing and use of A E S T H E T I C S
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>>1824 >>1828 That PDF is shit, here is a better version that doesn't have 500 pages.
>>2707 >IANVA This is my favorite of theirs.
Looking at all these posts about Japan, where would I go to learn more about Japanese culture? What sites or books or PDFs are there that can help to teach me?
>>2707 >Took me a while to learn enough ffmpeg to pull these off Good job Anon, props for the effort.
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>>2985 I'd check out these maybe: >Hagakure This is of course a classic and of interest to anons here. It's all about how the ideal samurai should conduct himself and face life, along with a lot of other interesting things throughout >The Nobility of Failure: Tragic Heroes in the History of Japan (Ivan Morris) I'm reading this right now, but it's great. The author was actually a friend of Yukio Mishima and wrote this partially in response to his coup-attempt. Each chapter is about a particular Japanese cultural hero, starting from mythic times with Yamato Takeru up to nearly the present with Kamikaze squadrons. In contrast to Western culture where most of our heroes are often connected with achieving their goals and victory, many of the most famous Japanese heroes are marked by their failure and young deaths in tragic circumstances, as well being driven by such sincerity and purity that they do what they do regardless of the circumstances or whether it is a lost cause. This attitude is connected with a sort of natural pessimism where life is fleeting, impermanent and full of ups and downs. Japanese aesthetics is all about this mono no aware (pathos of things) >Evanescence and Form (Charles Shiro Inouye) Connected to the end of the previous paragraph, this book deals with the theme of evanescence / impermanence in Japanese culture from ancient times until today. This book was interesting to me, but it dragged a bit near the end when it started discussing postmodernism in Japan. There are lots of example poems about cherry blossoms and the fleetingness of life and how this very character of it is what makes it beautiful and sad at the same time. >Shinto: The Kami Way A short book which gives a basic introduction to the Shinto traditions of the Japanese. I have some books too on Aum Shinrikyo, new religions in Japan like Kuruzumikyou and a few things on anime from a critical perspective but I don't know if you'd be interested in those. Either way I've been planning on making a Japan thread here soon if people were interested, since there's been a lot of stuff in this thread about Mishima and Japan in general

Political Evolution Thread Blackshirt 07/03/2020 (Fri) 20:50:05 No.2779 [Reply] [Last]
How long have you considered yourself some sort of fascist? How did you get to this point? It's interesting to hear the stories of different anons, because while there are often some broad similarities, every story is unique.
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>>2900 I'll definitely have to check it out then, it sounds right up my alley. A sound spiritual / philosophical grounding is, I think more and more, essential.
>>2866 Not just coloured, I'm a mutt too, a stranger among my own "peoples". Redpilled on race from such an early age. And without liberal propaganda (not western country) people are VERY wierded out by me having parents of different races. They say it's ok and stuff but you could feel their subconscious disgust. >>2873 True, mein kampf and the protocol's of the elders of Zion are popular amongst non-whites. I think my dad had a copy of the protocols translated, lol >>2841 >>2841 I remember having the entirety of /fascist/ archived on my phone, but alas i have deleted them.
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>>2982 It's nice to know there's a few mutts on here too. Honestly, we shouldn't hate ourselves too much for what we are. I've always thought about a mutt ethnostate somewhere in the US. What is your racial background, if you don't mind me asking?>>2982
>>2988 Black + Asian I'm not sure though i think me mom is happa (Filipina), while my dad is prob part Arab. Rip, my blood is mutted to the extreme What about you anon? I hope you are a better combo. And on the topic of ethnostates I think it's too wasteful. It's better for us not to have kids. Especially me :(
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>>2982 >I remember having the entirety of /fascist/ archived on my phone Damn you were dedicated. It's pretty nostalgic to look back at the old 8chan board in the archives.

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Why Should Whites Survive? Blackshirt 07/04/2020 (Sat) 16:58:33 No.2813 [Reply] [Last]
Of course to anons here on /fascist/ and similar sites, this will often be something that we should obviously hold in high regard and take for granted, but among the bluepilled this question will likely be far more pressing to anyone you try to redpill. In fact, everything hinges on this question. According to today's spirit of egoistic Jewish materialism, one has one's own personal goals and lives life chasing after some vague sort of 'happiness' and 'satisfaction' for themselves and their family alone. They have no larger purpose in life. If they perceive life in this way, race is unimportant. We should just seek the "good life", work at our meager wage-cuck job and entertain ourselves in our free-time. It's easy to see why people who live according to this mindset - and it includes both "leftists" and "right-wingers", Republicans and Democrats - continually fall prey to the Jewish agenda. They have no ground to stand on. Our people need given a purpose, a reason to survive, a reason which breaks this nihilistic and destructive mindset, a philosophical or spiritual foundation. Of course I have my own answer, but I don't want to dominate the thread so I'll remain quiet for now.
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>>2813 I say try not to trigger anyone deeply bluepilled with things like information and reasonable arguments. Sppeal to their vapid, base natures. "I just like blonde hair/green eyes.', etc.
>>2966 That might work for simple-minded women, but I don't know about men.
Show them non-white who care about their own race and how tribalism they are. Even better, if you're non-white, try to redpill them. They will listen when it isn't an ebil whitey right?
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>>2813 IMHO people feel an innate connection to people who look and think like themselves. When I meet a stranger who doesn't look like me, I'm usually uncomfortable and not trusting of them at first. However when I meet a stranger that shares my skin tone, age, hair color, height, hobbies, etc, I naturally feel much more comfortable and compatible with them, as if they are part of my own tribe. I'm sure people of any race can relate to this feeling, that they wish to be around and interact with people who look and think like themselves.
Might is Right If whites don't fight resist and bite They have no right to life

Fascist Music and Videos Blackshirt 06/20/2020 (Sat) 15:36:28 No.1924 [Reply] [Last]
This stuff gets shoah'd so much nowadays that it's always good to have a thread to share the best music and videos related to Fascism. DO NOT POST YOUTUBE VIDEOS DIRECTLY ITT Resources: https://www.altcensored.com/ (shoah'd youtube videos and channels)
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/fascist/ OC general Blackshirt 07/04/2020 (Sat) 10:31:45 ID: 934ffe No.2800 [Reply] [Last]
For OC and /fascist/-related content.
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>>2802 Based /monarchy/, I love that artist.
>>2808 kek, good ones
>>2848 The third one was based off a real poster who got banned, I'm not sure about the first one
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>>2849 Ah, comrade Pidor Zhidovsky, his contributions won't be forgotten. First one is more like a generic El aberracion or a tranny who wants to larp as a fascist.
Does anyone have the pic of the guy in Waffen SS camo holding a book with an Evola quote next to him? It was a drawing.

Unpopular Opinions Thread Blackshirt 06/26/2020 (Fri) 16:50:13 No.2367 [Reply] [Last]
These are always fun. Me: >Dharmic religions are only slightly less cringe than Christianity >Pol Pot was based and was a racialist nationalist agrarian communist >People who say that people like Breivik and Tarrant "threw away their lives" are materialist Last Men at heart
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>>2922 >Fascist Ideology is entirely compatible with Christianity and can only function with a spiritual component tied to it. Any attempt to claim otherwise will simply lead to a contingent authoritarianism that is either always at the brink or doomed to fail It really isn't since as pointed out here already Fascism is rooted in occultism and pantheism/panentheism. >(The major flaw of Singapore lovers from a Fascist Perspective) Singapore is just a consoomer land.
>>2936 Fascism in itself is not tied to any religion.
>>2939 It is when you have a proper knowledge of its foundations.
>>2936 Singapore is still much better than India and as a streetpooper fag I'd rather live in SG
>>2939 It's pretty clear though that there are certain religions that could be seen to be completely incompatible with fascism. If we start talking about National Socialism in particular it becomes even more undeniable.

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Christian Fascist Thread Blackshirt 05/22/2020 (Fri) 19:36:33 ID: 9df816 No.181 [Reply] [Last]
Am I the only Christian here?
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>>2392 Didn't some amish defectors say that amish people are a bit fucked up?
>>2676 Even if some have said this, there's always reason to wonder (1) why they are saying this and (2) fucked up by whose standards. Anabaptists are very collectivistic compared to our atomized society and in some ways could be seen by our standards as restrictive to individuality, choice and oppressive towards women.
My relationship with Christianity is a complicated one due to it's Hebrew origins, i do think ancient Christianity was significantly less cucked than it's modern equivalent and although i favor paganism and esotericism/the occult more i do still enjoy the christian and medieval/Gothic aesthetic, i also take a liking to the warrior culture of the Teutonic order and the knights Templar, but one thing i cannot forgive Christianity for it's involvement with the death of Rome.
>>181 Nope.
>>2740 What I did was realize that much of the Christian aesthetic that many Whites are proud of or that they admire is less a product of Christianity itself, than it is a product of White genius itself. European greatness in the periods after Rome is, how I see it, in spite of Christianity rather than because of it. Now in the era where Christianity has entered a great decline and is in fact becoming even more cucked and meek (truer to itself!) we need to learn as a people to step over it and begin anew. I admire paganism, but a reconstruction of its most outward aspects is not enough. A true renaissance is coming

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Incest and nobility Blackshirt 06/28/2020 (Sun) 23:35:04 ID: 215611 No.2549 [Reply] [Last]
It was relatively common for noble houses to engage in incest during European history. If no fitting suitor could be found or a family wished to consolidate power among themselves they would turn to incest. Cousins, Siblings and very rarely parents/children would marry and have offspring to keep the family blood line going. This wasn't looked down on the way incest is today and would be pretty common in the higher tiers of society. When dealing with a future ethnostate or at least a white community what do you think of incest? How close a relationship would you find acceptable and how many generations of inbreeding? This is not a porn topic. Weebs and degenerates can go to a porn board to deal with their mommy issues.
Inbreeding is equally degenerate, opposing extreme of race-mixing. Selectively breeding people with common genetic background but enough variation is the best approach.
>>2549 Incest was just a sign of the kali yuga as nobles desperately tried to maintain power and their noble right to rule; this attempt at purity eventually led to material degeneration.
Incest is universally seen as taboo and dysgenic.

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New Age Pan-Religious Esoteric Mystic Ethno-Monotheism Is The Way Forward Blackshirt 06/06/2020 (Sat) 23:53:27 ID: 8d68ba No.708 [Reply] [Last]
After reading the amazing, mature and insightful religious discussions here, i have concluded that this is the answer. We can all feel this, that we NEED this, and we are all desperately searching for it in different religions. Sadly though we must be bold enough to admit, every religion out there does not fully align with all of our values and does not stand up to intellectual scrutiny. Because of this, any current religious system can only carry with it the danger of subversion to the movements we hope to establish in our lifetime. One religion will provide proper guidance in one area, while failing in another, either not being explicit on some matters or worse yet giving the worst stance possible such as denial of race which should be the most egregious sin possible. I will attempt to breakdown each term in the lengthy title i have given to this. i hope these explanations will give understanding enough that arguments and criticisms stemming from confusion of terminology wont arise here. >New Age By new age i dont mean crystals and hippies and loony rich white people. By new age, i mean overcoming purist and dogmatic viewpoints pertaining to a certain religion. They are all bad and need to be abandoned. i will briefly cover this here for each one i can think of. >Paganism - Most of it is destroyed and forever lost - At best a re-enactment, otherwise known as LARPing - phallus worship, human sacrifices, other barbaric acts - at best a fucking LARP - failed to preserve itself from christianity - a LARP >Christianity - Explicit tenets of racial universalism, this should immediately disqualify it, nothing could be more subversive and dangerous - Non-White Origin - Not racially exclusive, millions of nigger believers - strong roots in judaic world - End of the World Doomsday Cult

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>>2273 >I'd recommend that you read some works of Evola first too late, i already read most of his stuff currently reading up on Dante's Divine Comedy after reading "The Metaphysics of Dante" by Guenon, thanks for the tips Anon, i don't know if i'll read Jung, i've seen way too many post XIXth Century niggers like Atkinson project their "Enlightened Ideas" and as a result i've grown pretty much Disdainful and Suspicious of anyone who isnt Evola or wasn't born Before the Age of "Illustration" but i will most definetly consider it i can indeed agree with the rest of your post, but like you said in the spoiler it does seem that there's only like 3-4 Anons genuinely trying to make a "Standarized" Doctrine of Divine Wisdom, but from what i am reading, it seems the rest of the Post is missing the point and just falling for the most baseline Racial totemismlook at how >>2280 mistook me saying "One" for the Actual number 1 instead of seeing that i meant it as "The Monad is Complete and not Lacking", and he then proceeds to set up the Physical world as the common denominator despite the fact that the only thing the Ancients actually agreed on beyond Doctrine was the Existance of the Divine, just to place an example of anons missing the point
>outright rejecting religions instead of knowing >shitposting over high importance shit like this >arguing as if this was a hard subject to grasp >ctrl-f alfred rosenberg, myth 20th century. zero mention op of the esoteric mystic thread on julay.world. i have failed.
>>2894 >>outright rejecting religions instead of knowing What do you mean?
>>2897 The rites, culture, virtues, and power of these religions are present. It is no mistake that the masses of its followers cannot grasp the higher ideas of these things, for the same reason a mass of people should not decide the fate of a nation. A learned scholar of these things must understand and know as much as they can about all of it. If they understand, than they will know what is vestigial and what is true. It is the same thing with cultures and people and other sciences.
>>2804 Jung had to rewrite many of his works after the war for them to be kosher enough for wider publication and academic circles, but his original (pre-war) publications were quite insightful. He was a sellout, but his theories help a lot. >"The Metaphysics of Dante" by Guenon Do you have a copy? It was me who wrote the other post that you are referencing, you could have used complete instead of one, but this type of semantics indicates that you are controlled by those who control the language. And it is precisely racial totemism that we should return to, just in a much more advanced form. Yes, it was a common deception in certain circles to observe the Divine as something absolute and singular while considering anything physical (worlds and forms of life on them) to be the ever-shifting multitude of it's manifestations. Yet I am here to show you that the inverse is true, that the physical world is subject to different Wills of different Divinities, all self-existent and independent from any supposed "supreme being" , which is but an impostor. Physical is the most common denominator, for our sources might have originated from very different "places" beyond. That being said, the only other common denominator is the Law.

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