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Fuck lame "high tech" VR and automasturbators Anonymous 12/13/2021 (Mon) 09:27:28 No.263
We live in an era of cyberpunk "lite". All the dystopian components are in place, like behemoth corporate control of govt, mass surveillance, crappy automated services. But there's no space economy, no galactic federation. No exploration. Were stuck. And rather than make the new shit, the powers are instead looking at how to enslave people inside a virtual reality. Why build when you can breed more slaves? Why do anything IRL that can be done with a bit of processing power that fools your mind into believing, releasing its sweet dopamine, which costs essentially nothing, and can be altered or removed at the will of the programmer. And poof its gone, your whole world, all those tokens you earned and sprites you so carefully assembled. Stop. Don't fall for this shitty excuse for a technological world with its bad plot. Seek the truth outside. Its up to you.
A message from the Galactic Federation https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=1jbjJJQE4dk&t=601
>>263 >We live in an era of cyberpunk "lite". Seems pretty done and complete to me. >All the dystopian components are in place, like behemoth corporate control of govt, mass surveillance, crappy automated services. Yes >But there's no space economy, no galactic federation. That belongs to space opera, the genre that the Movement tried to dump. And they succeeded. >No exploration. Were stuck. I see people increasingly talk about stagnation, and the FAQ mentions StagnationPunk. >And rather than make the new shit, the powers are instead looking at how to enslave people inside a virtual reality. That is just more money making dystopia.
>>264 >Galactic Federation >30 min of person claiming to be in contact w benevolent lizard person named Trebor 'ytny selling pineal decalcification supplement >yea_doubt.jpg Also he echoes the 4IR belief of useless eaters or "fleas" being purged in two more years™, or so for Gaia. Well meaned esoteric tropes laced w Antichrist pilled stuff - the fleas ate a byproduct of the society this regime created, they are not parasites. If reality is elusive, so is power and control.
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>>265 > space opera This is my point exactly, and I disagree they have succeeded they simply want to enjoy the benefits of 2000 years of struggle without truly achieving what has been for all intents and purposes granted - space faring civilization. All else is lies. Its as though the world has decided suicide is the best option. >StagnationPunk, faq help newfag w link? I don't see it
>>267 > help newfag w link? I don't see it Sure. The updated FAQ was posted over in neighbouring thread >>213 https://files.catbox.moe/pwpib5.htm
>>263 >Why build when you can breed more slaves? Is slavery really cost effective these days? With enough robots it will not be. Bots are expected to make over a hundred thousand drivers unemployed and unemployable in the US alone, so you will have no end of volunteers. >Why do anything IRL that can be done with a bit of processing power that fools your mind into believing, releasing its sweet dopamine, which costs essentially nothing, and can be altered or removed at the will of the programmer. People will still need food, medicine, shelter etc. Matrix style pods are unlikely to be here anytime soon. Perhaps prisoners will be a test group, after all there are 2+ million Americans in jail. So pods or Eudeamon style banishment has a market, just a limited one. >And poof its gone, your whole world, all those tokens you earned and sprites you so carefully assembled. I am quite happy to live in the real world, where I can have backups. >Stop. Don't fall for this shitty excuse for a technological world with its bad plot. Seek the truth outside. Its up to you. FB has research projects for brain computer interfaces with two way communications. That does not sound healthy at all but people will try that. I won't.
>>269 >people will try [unproven VR technology] but I won't Damn right. I won't either, but the PTB wants to try force, for everyone's "safety" which is the death of every shitty failed society to date
>>268 Thanks anon
>>263 This as far as you get? Tsk tsk.
>>275 Putting all criminals into banesuits will probably not require much force, if any. So first there will be 2 million banes, then another 100k every year. This could save astronomical sums of money so this would be a roaring success, even if nobody would ever get out of banishment, ever.
>>263 we live in a fucked up world where both the corporations and the government are trying to destroy us
>>269 >FB has research projects for brain computer interfaces with two way communications. That does not sound healthy at all but people will try that. I won't. Holy shit thats literally Cyna Corp
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>>287 Previously, Iphone owners discovered their old phones slowed down whenever new models were released. In this future, implanted Iphone owners will discover a sudden and unstoppable craving for the new models whenever they are announced. What could possibly go wrong?
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>>292 i see absolutely nothing that could possibly ever go wrong here :))))
>>292 >>293 There's a good reason the goyim are known as 'cattle' by their globalist kike masters, Anon.
>>293 Have you read Eudeamon? It takes this concept to another interesting world.
>>296 no i havent can you describe it for me?
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>>297 Very condensed: in the future the problem with prisoner overcrowding is solved by banishment: prisoners have a custodian inserted (like Neuralink but two way), put in an anonymising bane suit and banished. It is a full sized book, put on the net by the author for free reading:
>>298 Somehow this was posted before I could add the link: http://www.evil-dolly.com/assets/eudeamon.pdf
>>298 hmm interesting
>>299 thx
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>>300 Yes, it has many interesting concepts. Pic. is mildly spoilerish.
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>>322 >literally hot-linking direct to an official 5-eyes site. Heh. Well it just goes to show that 1 out of every 3 on /cyber/ is a glownigger. Just curious what you faggots want from our types anyway? Can't find sufficient trannys any longer? Maybe they all fucked off to Kiev? I'd suggest you have a look at Good Will Hunting for a brief synopsis of our answer friend. :^)
>>323 Well, I take it for given that the interested parties take appropriate caution including VPN, TOR, use of archive.is and using the neighbour's WIFI. If you prefer the indirect approach, the article that referenced the call for submissions, was this one: https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/dasa-seeks-gan-human-augmentation-proposals-2022-05/ For more glowing bonuses: https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/cyber-security-conference-south-wales-next-week-2022-05/
Just when you thought it could not get worse: >Facebook Is Receiving Sensitive Medical Information from Hospital Websites https://themarkup.org/pixel-hunt/2022/06/16/facebook-is-receiving-sensitive-medical-information-from-hospital-websites >A tracking tool installed on many hospitals’ websites has been collecting patients’ sensitive health information—including details about their medical conditions, prescriptions, and doctor’s appointments—and sending it to Facebook. This is really valuable data, insurance companies would really like to know who not to offer an insurance and what premium they should charge for the rest. It is hard to imagine this was anything but careful design.
>>342 It is just tiresome at this point. We have all the dystopique elements but none of the cool tech.
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>>343 The cool stuff on the horizon closest to us in time, is probably brain computer interfacing (BCI). Of course that too will be perverted. Some will use BCI to let you control stuff, others will no doubt want to read out your private knowledge, and more worrisome of all is that some (FB I think) will use BCI to put thoughts back directly into your brain. That could probably include an overpowering urge to buy whatever they are advertising.
Some sudden bursts of Cyberpunk news relating to VR implementation. First off, Neal Stephenson announces LAMINA1 https://medium.com/@LAMINA1/announcing-lamina1-bb7119d19a0d Combining VR and blockchain this sure is buzzword 2000 compliant. At the same time we have >Meta and other tech giants form metaverse standards body, without Apple https://www.reuters.com/technology/meta-other-tech-giants-form-metaverse-standards-body-without-apple-2022-06-21/ where there no doubt will be a lot of politics and power play. The VRML saga ended badly.
More cyberpunk news: https://archive.ph/ALW9R >Inside Saudi Arabia’s Plan to Build a Skyscraper That Stretches for 75 Miles Arcologies are a staple of Cyberpunk literature, and given this is set in SA and the rulers are OK with killing journalists, the dystopic aspects are well cared for, curated even. >Designers of the Mirror Line propose two parallel structures traversing mountains and desert as part of a futuristic development to transform the kingdom Do they care about the environment? With 2030 as completion deadline, I cannot imagine any environmental reviews will stop this.
Since this thread turned to Cyberpunk news, let us have some more: >'MAX HEADROOM' BOOTS UP REBOOT AT AMC FROM 'HALT AND CATCH FIRE' CO-CREATOR; MATT FREWER TO RETURN https://www.syfy.com/syfy-wire/max-headroom-reboot-amc-matt-frewer-halt-catch-fire >Max Headroom is making a comeback. Deadline reports that AMC Networks is developing a reboot of the staple of 1980s pop culture with the help of Halt and Catch Fire co-creator Christopher Cantwell and producer Elijah Wood, whose company SpectreVision is attached to the project. >Matt Frewer, who originated the Max Headroom character in 1985, is also set to return to reprise his role, so get ready for eerily perfect hair and frequent glitching.
More Cyberpunk news: >Long-lasting, dissociable improvements in working memory and long-term memory in older adults with repetitive neuromodulation https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-022-01132-3 Advanced trans cranial stimulation improves memory.
Even more Cyberpunk news: >Tornado Cash and collateral damage https://lwn.net/Articles/904960/ >[...The] US government sanctioned the Tornado Cash cryptocurrency mixer for money laundering. It was removed from GitHub, but that is unlikely to work.
The Peripheral - season 1 trailer is out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSaWHbCSmRI It is strange to me that they first point out it is by tre creators of Westworld, when the real point is that it is based on a story by Wm Gibson. Perhaps "based on" indicates they are reimagine it a bit too far.
Some security news from Google, which hints of a dystopian/cyberpunk angle, hidden somewhere: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Google-KataOS >Google Announces KataOS As Security-Focused OS, Leveraging Rust & seL4 Microkernel >Google this week has announced the release of KataOS as their newest operating system effort focused on embedded devices running ambient machine learning workloads. KataOS is security-minded, exclusively uses the Rust programming language, and is built atop the seL4 microkernel as its foundation. >KataOS is intended for use with the ever-growing number of smart devices with a particular emphasis on embedded hardware running machine learning applications. Given the increasing industry focus of RISC-V, that CPU architecture is a primary support focus for KataOS. Google's Open-Source Blog announced: Smart devices have been more "smart" than secure, it will be interesting to follow this project.
>>434 New Season 1 - Official Trailer: https://youtu.be/bRdkRQzcrrc Also, The Peripheral Season 1 | “Weeks Ahead” Trailer | Prime Video: https://youtu.be/PWvhhdn16ow
More news on BCI (brain computer interfacing): >THIS IMPLANT TURNS BRAIN WAVES INTO WORDS https://spectrum.ieee.org/brain-computer-interface-speech >In our pilot study, we draped a thin, flexible electrode array over the surface of the volunteer’s brain. The electrodes recorded neural signals and sent them to a speech decoder, which translated the signals into the words the man intended to say. It was the first time a paralyzed person who couldn’t speak had used neurotechnology to broadcast whole words—not just letters—from the brain. Seems these guys are overtaking Neuralink.
>>486 Interesting. The issue with tech like this always comes down to ethics and openness. Giving people the ability to speak is great until everything they say is being analyzed and they can't afford the cost of repair when their proprietary wetware goes awry.
>>487 Everything you say is already being analyzed Friend. It will be no different for these poor sotts tbh.
>>488 In the vicinity of an active microphone (phones especially) sure, but it is still possible (for now) to say things to someone in person without it being logged.
>>488 In this case we also risk that everything we think will also be extracted and analysed. Even if the readers in here will not do anything as stupid as installing the iBrane from certain lifestyle appliance manufacturers, you can bet your bottom dollar that many will. And what they recall will also include you if you have been in their presence. We already know FB does this with images taken of people without an FB account.
Major security news: >Top Zeus Botnet Suspect “Tank” Arrested in Geneva https://krebsonsecurity.com/2022/11/top-zeus-botnet-suspect-tank-arrested-in-geneva/ >Vyacheslav “Tank” Penchukov, the accused 40-year-old Ukrainian leader of a prolific cybercriminal group that stole tens of millions of dollars from small to mid-sized businesses in the United States and Europe, has been arrested in Switzerland, according to multiple sources.
Dystopia moves on. The Saudi Arabian "The Line" is taking shape. https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=22/12/10/1512244
>>503 >Elysium/10 Where do I sign up? Will they accept non-Mudhits?
>>504 Why would you want to go there? It is a shit dystopian vision with no fun at all. Mega sized buildings should go up, not across. A real cyberpunk city should sprawl out only after going as high as the engineering will allow. Also, you'll need heavy rain to happen a lot more often than it will in the middle of a fucking desert. The place they're building is more like some experimental utopian prison for human cattle. Elon Musk ought to start building a city-state to compete with this crap. It could have a spaceport for all his test flights to launch from without any restrictions from existing governments.
>>504 >Will they accept non-Mudhits? There are plenty of workers there, from countries like India, Nepal etc. Unfortunately there are many fatalities among foreign workers in the Middle East.
>>506 >Unfortunately there are many fatalities among foreign workers in the Middle East. Ehh, w/e. there are many more fatalities among Middle Easterners in the Middle East, so it all works out in the end. Where do I sign up?
>>507 >there are many more fatalities among Middle Easterners in the Middle East, How come, are they being droned en masse? >so it all works out in the end. A bit fatalistic. Why not rather go elsewhere? The structure of The Line i like a furnace with plenty of draft enabled but iwht extremeliy limited supplies of water for firefighting. The whole thing is set up like a Hollywood blockbuster where the designer 15 minutes into the movie ask themselves, "What could plasibly go wrong?" The last 60 minutes are a collage of fire, gunfire and bombs, until finished off with a nuke. People love happy endings. >Where do I sign up? For residency you probably need a few million dollars of disposable money. The people handling your family office funds will tell you.
Huawei is being thrown out by many countries as a major security risk. Now, in the latest development statistics for Linux version 6.1, we see that they have become VERY active: https://lwn.net/Articles/915435/ In fact, LWN notes that >Huawei clearly had a busy development cycle, with 117 developers contributing changes throughout the kernel. Otherwise, these results show yet another fairly typical development cycle. That is ... interesting.
>>515 Tit-for-tat at most, IMO. After all, CIA Glowniggers Redhat has been contributing since way back.
>>516 Realistically, all such alphabet agencies will have to join major Internet projects early on, at least in order to establish a plausible legend. That means operating systems in general, and crypto in particular. It is probably just a question of time before Serenity OS gets a slew of new contribtors that will be there long term. And there is one Linux contributor that uses an obvious pseudonym who contributes everywhere - including to the crypto code. What Huawei does is probably being closely monitored. The difficult part comes when a security lapse is discovered. One of te worst in the open source history was the infamous Debian security lapse. And very little happened. Presumably all agencies considered it a NOBUS exploit.
Some news can be as dystopic as it can be fantastic. Or what do you think about the world's richest living another 100 years? FT has an article on >The start-ups seeking a cure for old age https://archive.is/E6Ved >Tech billionaires are funding research to help us live longer and healthier lives, but experts warn of an ethical minefield ahead
It is surprising who trust steganography. Also noteworthy is teh lack of information how it was caught: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-64206950 Archived copy: https://archive.is/LOqPP >It was an innocuous-looking photograph that turned out to be the downfall of Zheng Xiaoqing, a former employee with energy conglomerate General Electric Power. >According to a Department of Justice (DOJ) indictment, the US citizen hid confidential files stolen from his employers in the binary code of a digital photograph of a sunset, which Mr Zheng then mailed to himself.
>An ALS patient set a record for communicating via a brain implant: 62 words per minute https://archive.is/BoIK4 >Now, after volunteering to receive a brain implant, the woman has been able to rapidly communicate phrases like “I don’t own my home” and “It’s just tough” at a rate approaching normal speech. See also https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2023.01.21.524489v1
NSA just issued soem security recommendations >NSA Offers Security Guidelines for IPv6 Migration https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/01/25/1953246 >The US National Security Agency (NSA) has published a guidance document for system administrators to help them mitigate potential security issues as their organizations transition to Internet Protocol version 6 (IPv6). What could possibly go wrong?
Human augmentation sure can be strange. >Roboticists Want to Give You a Third Arm https://archive.is/esXcQ via https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=23/01/31/1322201 >We think that extra robotic limbs could be a new form of human augmentation, improving people’s abilities on tasks they can already perform as well as expanding their ability to do things they simply cannot do with their natural human bodies.
>>553 What's not to love Anon? Hey, it will definitely improve your Ski-Boxing skills!
More news from the depart of what could possibly go wrong:; >Blobs of Human Brain Planted In Rats Offer New Treatment Hope https://science.slashdot.org/story/23/02/04/0149213/blobs-of-human-brain-planted-in-rats-offer-new-treatment-hope (source: https://www.cell.com/cell-stem-cell/fulltext/S1934-5909(23)00004-8) >The groundbreaking study showed that the "human brain organoids" -- sesame seed-sized balls of neurons -- were able to integrate into the rat brain, linking up with their blood supplies and communicating with the rat neurons. The team behind the work suggest that eventually doctors might be able to grow blobs of brain tissue from a patient's own cells in the lab and use them to repair brain injuries caused by stroke or trauma. Well, what happens when you add such organoids to the cortex sulci? Einstein had a sulcus that was filled in, near the part relating to visual interpretation. Perhaps the humans of the futire with assured IQ of 150+ can simply be grown?
I guess we all knoew it would acellerate, but seeing it in action is soemthing else. >Some companies are already replacing workers with ChatGPT, despite warnings it shouldn’t be relied on for ‘anything important’ https://archive.is/r8uhT >Earlier this month, job advice platform Resumebuilder.com surveyed 1,000 business leaders who either use or plan to use ChatGPT. It found that nearly half of their companies have implemented the chatbot. And roughly half of this cohort say ChatGPT has already replaced workers at their companies. The combination of stagflation, unemployment and now entire occupations being automated means a more cyberpunk near future than most had expected.
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AI continues ploughing full steam ahead in increasingly surpising ways. The "intellectuals" were happy to see drivers and manual labour being replaced by AI but now that they are firmly in the cross hairs, the reaction has changed. In the latest rounds, AI does not only write programs but also debug and fix them: >WOLVERINE GIVES YOUR PYTHON SCRIPTS THE ABILITY TO SELF-HEAL https://hackaday.com/2023/04/09/wolverine-gives-your-python-scripts-the-ability-to-self-heal/ >Wolverine is a wrapper that runs the buggy script, captures any error messages, then sends those errors to GPT-4 to ask it what it thinks went wrong with the code. In the demo, GPT-4 correctly identifies the two bugs (even though only one of them directly led to the crash) but that’s not all! Wolverine actually applies the proposed changes to the buggy script, and re-runs it. This time around there is still an error… because GPT-4’s previous changes included an out of scope return statement. No problem, because Wolverine once again consults with GPT-4, creates and formats a change, applies it, and re-runs the modified script. This time the script runs successfully and Wolverine’s work is done. The code is here: https://github.com/biobootloader/wolverine and it is being updated as I write this.
Cyber warfare is big, and now a huge exercise is underway: >World's largest cyber defense exercise Locked Shields kicks off in Tallinn https://archive.is/Cfkg9 >For four days, more than 3,000 participants from 38 nations will protect real computer systems from real-time attacks, and train tactical and strategical decision-making in critical situations. In addition to defending systems, teams must report incidents, execute strategic decisions, and solve forensic, legal, and media challenges. >Locked Shields is a training exercise that pits an attacking Red Team against defending Blue Teams, composed of NATO CCDCOE member states and partner nations.
Google is at it, again: >Google’s New Two-Factor Authentication Isn’t End-to-End Encrypted, Tests Show https://archive.is/JmXZv >When Mysk and his partner Talal Haj Bakry analyzed the network traffic as the app synced with Google servers, they found the data is not not end-to-end encrypted.“This means that Google can see the secrets, likely even while they’re stored on their servers,” the Mysk team wrote on Twitter.
>>588 2FA is the perfect example of tech that'll never work as intended because corps keep trying to reinvent it instead of sticking to the plenty of standards around it that already exist.
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>>517 >Presumably all agencies considered it a NOBUS exploit. Presumably so. At the least by being opensauce it's at least conceivable that expolits can be found beforehand. Proprietary shite is more difficult still tbh.
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>>585 >>588 Thanks anon for this info :) get in here >>>/k/res/50294
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Once more an AI bot is launched, and once again it quickly leaves the tracks for unintended areas: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/23/05/14/0318245/virtual-girlfriend-chatbot-trained-on-conversations-with-men-starts-talking-mostly-about-sex Is anyone really looking into just WHY bots continue to take turns that leave their creators alarmed? So far, all I see, is keyword filtering and output filtering, but nothing about adjusting the transformer.
>>597 /robowaifu/ might be a good place to ask that.
>>596 Is that Dennis Ritchie??
>>600 >Is that Dennis Ritchie?? No, MEAR ONE. >/watch?v=FSLgNt5NMVQ http://grwp24hodrefzvjjuccrkw3mjq4tzhaaq32amf33dzpmuxe7ilepcmad.onion/watch?v=FSLgNt5NMVQ
Success always begets a sequel: >‘Alita: Battle Angel’ Producer Confirms Sequel Is In Development https://www.screengeek.net/2023/05/07/alita-battle-angel-sequel-in-development/ https://screenrant.com/avatar-way-of-water-alita-2-impact-how/
Belatedly, someone is realising how generative AI with libraries of virus genetics can be used to make bioweapons: >The perils of open-source AI https://archive.is/jqBJH >During the height of the Covid-19 pandemic, some well-meaning American officials floated a novel idea: why not put the details of the known zoonotic viral threats online to enable scientists around the world to predict what variants might emerge next? And, hopefully, find antidotes. Well, what could possibly go wrong? >So far, so inspiring. But when the US Agency for International Development (USAID) floated the Deep Vzn idea, some scientists spotted a problem: releasing virus details online could allow bad actors to replicate deadly diseases and make them worse. >After a chorus of complaints, USAID mothballed the open-source aspect of Deep Vzn. And then? >Two years later, this may seem a mere historical footnote. Not so. Some observers fear the return of “predictive research(opens a new window)”. Alarm was recently sounded in Congress about the risks.
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>>263 Nah. Cyberpunk is a genre created in the late 1970s by smug Canadian Boomers who hated America and spent the 1980s gaslighting themselves into continuous state of abject miserable helpless terror, confabulating that Ronald Reagan was going to destroy the world. Cyberpunk is humorless, didactic, over-the-top grimderp parody of what they perceived as America's excessive lolbertarian tendencies. It explores dystopian worlds of pollution, anarchy, and strongarm rule by General Motors. The societies depicted are always utterly lawless. There are no lawyers. This is hilarious for several reasons, not least of which was that, for all that their mimeographed zines proclaimed that they were doing this in the name of Originality, Pohl and Kornbluth had already tread this ground to the point of grinding ruts into it thirty years before. Another, though, is that all around the world, the locals say that the stereotypical American introduces himself by saying "I'll sue you" rather than "hello." Cyberpunk tilts at a strawman bearing no resemblance to anything that ever existed outside of the minds of a handful of sanctimonious Canadian acidheads watching the war in Vietnam on television. No, what we have today isn't lawless superhyperultramegalocorporate anarchy enforced by General Electric's fleet of laser death satellites. We have anarchotyranny instead. In American cities that were the envy and marvel of the world a century ago, feces and discarded hypodermic needles are everywhere on the streets and mobs of VIbrantly Diverse Cultural Enrichers beat and rob and occasionally murder passerby, burn and loot by broad daylight, while Officer Friendly and the rest of the Badge & Gun Gang stand there and watch, with their thumbs stuck up their asses. "There's nothing we can do." "The DA won't charge them." "Orders is orders." "I don't like it, but little Susie needs braces." "I can't lose muh pension." Their orders are to wait for a huh-WITE! person to raise a hand in his own defense. Then, suddenly, the city government isn't so helpless or inept. Then, suddenly, it's "OY YAME THUH LAWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" and here come Officer Friendly and the boys, guns blazing and truncheons a-swinging, to put that horrible RAYCISS in his place and force him to confront his privilege, so that his face can be all over the Internet with breathlessly recounted tales that he is a "Nazi militia extremist radicalized on 4chan" as a smirking Boomer Struldbrugg judge presides over the show trial. Maybe today there won't be enough purple-haired SJW pederasts and Vibrant Diversities on the jury to find him guilty, but he'll still be unemployable for the rest of his life. The process is the punishment, and the process is very, very selectively applied. Cyberpunk is a guided tour of polluted Dickensian misery and lawlessness. But instead we got pic related. I think I'd rather live in Night City.
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>>653 Tl;dr Canadians ruined sci-fi like they ruin everything.

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