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The Last Sovereign Anonymous 04/28/2020 (Tue) 07:59:26 No.905
Now with art! There is a thread for this game on the old board, but it hasn't been migrated here, so let's start a new one. It's a good milestone for it because after years of not finding an artist, they finally got one, and just added art through Chapter 1. Despite being a lewd game, TLS features intelligent writing and protagonists who use their brains and resources skillfully to reach the goals of their story. The male lead isn't some unlikable loser to self-insert as, and the women who love him are written with personality rather than just representing a particular kink or two. H-scenes in this game are usually several paragraphs of text punctuated by 1-2 images. It focuses much more on a happy and cohesive harem-of-friends-and-equals situation, not much on humiliation or dominance games. However I'm gonna paste one scene that does have some of that feel since people liked it in the fullchan thread. --- Though it seemed like they were meant to stay back, Aka found herself peering after Simon. He'd propositioned the most exotic-looking prostitute and now sat back, watching as she danced before him. The movements were strange and flowing, nothing like anything Aka had seen before. As she danced, one strip of cloth after another came off, revealing her pale skin slowly but surely. It was certainly elegant, more graceful than Aka could ever be, but she took a little pleasure in noticing that the prostitute's breasts weren't as large or pert as her own. What was she doing? Aka pulled back and averted her gaze from the scene. She was jealous, that much was obvious, but how did that make any sense? Simon had never promised exclusivity - almost the opposite, actually. Her confusion wasn't helped by the fact that she realized Yarra and Cumdump were beside her. Not only were they watching, Yarra had a hand down her skirt and Cumdump was vigorously fucking herself with several fingers. They didn't even seem to notice that she was staring at them. Before she could anguish long, Aka heard a sound and her gaze was drawn back to the bedroom. Simon stood up before the now naked prostitute and took hold of her in a sure, swift movement. In a moment he had her up against a wall and Aka's heart leapt into her throat. The others moaned softly and masturbated harder. Aka couldn't imagine herself doing the same, yet in a way she understood them. Simon looked so confident and powerful, she desperately wanted him to be taking her instead. After a blazing kiss, Simon lifted one of the woman's legs and slipped inside her. She moaned and shifted up the wall, impaled on his cock. Her leg straightened upward with impressive flexibility, coming to rest on Simon's shoulder. He grunted and began moving faster inside her. Yet as hot as it made her feel, it also left Aka deeply uncomfortable. It should have been her on his cock, or even Yarra or Cumdump. Aka blinked as she realized what she was thinking. Yet even now, imagining that Simon was fucking one of the others didn't leave her with the sick feeling in the pit of her stomach. She knew the others, it felt only right that Simon would take them. But this stranger, selling herself for a few coins… "You like watching him, don't you?" Yarra's arms slid around her from behind. Aka shuddered, but not in revulsion. "That's the way it should be. He's our master." "I… I don't…" Simon had raised the woman's other leg, pinning her against the wall where she could do nothing but scream as he hammered into her. Aka watched, transfixed as heat rose in her pussy. One of Yarra's hands flicked at her nipple while the other went between her legs. The skillful movements combined with the sight of Simon fucking the prostitute could have been enough to push Aka over the edge. Yet after a moment of agonizing uncertainly she rejected it, pushing Yarra away and turning aside. Minutes later, the prostitute's sounds stopped in a screaming wail. Aka held her fingers in tight fists to prevent them from doing anything else. --- The Last Sovereign is a free RPG for PC, which is about 4/5 complete at time of this post and updates about once a month. It can be downloaded at https://the-last-sovereign.blogspot.com
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I was serious about it mostly being happy relationships though. Here's the girl from the previous scene getting her needs met, and shown affection by the ones teasing her before.
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I fucking love this game. It's not usual that I enjoy a porn game's writing; to have it also be about my particular fetish and also about the subtype of my fetish is a divine gift. That it's an RPGMaker game but also tolerable is nothing short of miraculous. Very happy to hear it's still being completed. Have some of my favourite quotes from when I last played.
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>>908 Really liked the little fake-out at the start of the game too. It was actually convincing, or at the very least it had me going. Unusual.
>>909 See what you think of the prologue art, then. It's... different, and while some fans like it, others think it gives away too much. A similar thing happened with Ouroboros's prologue, though more extreme; people just didn't play far enough to hit the twist if the secret was kept too well, so it was changed. The Ch1 scene with the plant remains great regardless, though.
>>910 I’m in two minds about it. I have a lot of other competing demands on my time, so I’m considering just waiting until it’s done. But it’s also pretty great and I enjoy it. Do we know when it might be all complete? Is what’s been added worth playing through the whole thing again to get to?
>>911 The entire game might be complete next year, maybe? Certainly not this year. What's been added depends on when you stopped playing, I guess. Current version number is 0.50.2 and the plot is a few updates into Chapter 5, and each chapter has been a bit longer than the previous. For art specifically, it's all in Chapter 1 so far, and you can see all of it by just replaying the prologue and then loading your latest save and using the main character's Reflect skill to review Chapter 1 h-scenes. Assuming you made it far enough into Chapter 2 to have that scene recall ability.
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>>912 Turns out I still have a copy of the version I played, which was 0.17.4. The last significant thing I remember was clearing some kind of special optional puzzle dungeon full of hidden wraiths. If my old save still works on the latest version, I should be able to recall the H-scenes as you say. I'll give it a try! Certainly never expected there to be CG art.
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>>913 Hm, that might not actually be far enough? I dunno. You should get the scene reflect skill during the same part of the plot as when you meet Nalili. >Certainly never expected there to be CG art. As I understand it, the dev had high standards for consistency of art style and faithful details after doing some other games with commissions from random artists that had issues like "this chick is a fighter, but she doesn't have any muscle tone", and "it varies between CGs whether this dickgirl has balls and/or a pussy to go with". Between that and the sheer number of scenes in the game, the only way the game was realistically going to get art was to attract a good artist who was also enough of a fan to do hundreds of commissions for the same game while paying attention to details. Thankfully, this seems to have happened. Said artist is known as Annikath and was doing fan art of the game before she started getting paid for it (pics related, minor spoilers for characters introduced later), and while that stuff is decent, it seems like being the artist for this long-ass game is enough practice to improve significantly. I'm pretty optimistic about her work in chapter 2+
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>>926 Damn. Nice to see she has some standards. I'll definitely check out the updated version when I get the chance.
In the most recent update one harem girl uses her magic to help another woman overcome fertility issues, so that male lead can knock her up. I didn't really expect this game to have pregnancy and it seems like it's not going to be a focus, but it seems like a queany thing to do to me.
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>>949 An underrated aspect of this game is getting to follow up on all the little minor characters who change as time passes.
>>1142 That’s nice. Feels old-school. Thorough. Lot of love went into this game.
Was mentioned on the 8chankuntopwhateverthefuck thread but here's the link to the prequel story with Simon and his first wife. https://www.hentai-foundry.com/stories/user/SierraLee/22489/War-of-Lust
>a lewd game >The male lead isn't some unlikable loser to self-insert as Now why would you want to go and do a thing like that? Alienating your core (or only) audience isn't a particularly way to get reach. Though, I suppose art for its own sake is valuable in its own way.
>>1446 This has to be sarcasm yet it comes off as too self-satisfied. If it isn’t sarcasm then you seem to have strange ideas about eroge, Anon, or maybe just strange ideas about its audience.
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>>1447 Perhaps someone is anonymously trolling on the Internet.
>>1448 No!
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I'm at a dilemma. I want to play this but it's still being developed. I don't want to have to re-play everything when it's finished or it progresses enough that I want to go back and find out what's been added. So how long is it, and does anyone know if saves are backwards-compatible?
>>1727 Saves are backward-compatible and it's quite long. I think you can go ahead and start playing unless you have to have an optimal run.
I tried this game but the RPG element turns me off. Don't get me wrong, I love RPG game, but RPGmaker gameplay is so similar it just feel tedious. I wish there is a way to skip battle.
>>1744 There's a cheat mod for that. It covers all but the past couple updates' content. https://thelastsovereign.miraheze.org/wiki/Cheating#Story_mode_mod
>>1744 I didn't like the RPGmaker gameplay either. I did appreciate how they'd made the effort to make it less tedious by limiting the number of encounters per area and a couple of other things. Picture unrelated, but pretty.
>>1744 >>1747 I'm with you all on this. I really don't like JRPG combat, and the RPGMaker stuff isn't sweetening that deal. I like the spirit of what they're doing, it unfortunately isn't for me. It's like with trying to get into Touhou, but then remembering all the actual original games are made for autistic Japanese people.
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>>1750 Honestly I didn't notice this game's RPGMakerness much when I played. I remember the majority of the time ended up being the investment system, the puzzle bits, exploration, and story. >all the actual original games are made for autistic Japanese people >tfw you discover you're an autistic Nip
>>1753 >tfw you discover you're an autistic Nip I'm sorry if discovering this is difficult for you. We're here to support you.
This game continues to exist, and as the plot advances, social changes also begin to appear! In this world, succubi can only breed more succubi, so a bit of planning ahead is needed to ensure other races like humans don't become endangered as we integrate them with society. One increasingly common solution: Human men marry one human girl and one succubus. It's Church-approved!
>>2032 >One increasingly common solution: Human men marry one human girl and one succubus. It's Church-approved! I wonder how it works. Can a succ be invited to an existing marriage? Can a succ invite herself? Must a human girl get in on a succumarriage? Or perhaps marriages now require a human woman, a succubus, and a human man, just as the sanctity of marriage requires?
>>2036 I'm leaning towards the last one, rule of threes/holy trinity and all that.
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>>2036 Traditional marriage between a man and a woman of the same race --for the purpose of procreation in the missionary position-- isn't gone, so it's probably whatever arrangement people consent to. Teaching succubi consent is also an ongoing societal development, and an important one.>>2036
>>2048 Huh, the --strikethrough-- didn't work. Is the info on how to do that wrong? I was following the example at https://anon.cafe/.static/pages/posting.html
>>2048 >>2050 You mean like this? Try kinking your lines a little more.
>>2050 You've got to use tildes ~ not hyphens -
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>>2069 Okay, thanks. Those really don't look like tildes on the help page.
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>>2080 Huh, how strange. https://anon.cafe/.static/pages/posting.html shows the tildes fine for me.
Things a succubus might say if she notices you watching her fuck your man.
>>2237 >wholesome masturbation I like this phrase. Masturbation isn't wholesome unless it's done while watching your man drain his balls into a succ, but if it is then it's a beautiful and natural contribution to the scene.
This dev makes other games. They're not free but some of them do involve compersive queaning and harem elements. And they're all good games too. In particular I like the plot of Ouroboros: In a setting where our protagonists are trapped in a place where time cycles repeatedly and resets their memories, in different instances of the time loop our protagonist usually ends up with one of a few women each time, but not consistently the same one. When they eventually defeat the magic that resets their memories, each of them has centuries' worth of memories with the male lead... so rather than fight about who is his true soulmate and eternal best wife, they agree all of them have a valid claim and their shared experiences in the time loop have forged a bond between the group outsiders couldn't understand anyway. Harem ensues. I'm hoping one day the dev's series Crimson Gray is continued, because while it is decidedly not a cuckquean series at the moment, the dev mentioned that at some point the game would attempt to explore how the yandere archetype could work in a partner-sharing situation (other than murdering everyone, that is).
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Ok, after quite some time I finally tried this game. I was a little worried I wouldn't enjoy the gameplay as much without random encounters and grinding (I love grindy games, if someone could make a lewd version of Etrian Oddesey I would be so happy) but turns out the writing is so good that I don't care! As other anons mentioned the intro is funny, the character writing is good, and the art is certainly acceptable. I am a little disappointed that the game is still in dev two years after OP and only incremented up to .60 in that timeframe, but what I've played is definitely good. Thanks for the recommendation! [Moderator Note: Copy-reposted to >>3284 in the Cuckquean Games thread at >>3267.]
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>>3223 >I am a little disappointed that the game is still in dev two years after OP and only incremented up to .60 in that timeframe Me too. I last played it years ago and after really enjoying a good few hours decided to put it back down until it was finished. But: At least it's still being developed at all instead of abandoned, right?
>>3223 >As other anons mentioned the intro is funny, the character writing is good, and the art is certainly acceptable. I am a little disappointed that the game is still in dev two years after OP and only incremented up to .60 in that timeframe, but what I've played is definitely good. Thanks for the recommendation! I'm glad you enjoyed it! I want to point out that the version number is semantic versioning and it just means there have been 60 major content-adding updates, not that the game is only 60% complete. According to the dev we are much closer than that! >>3235 >After seeing so many games get stuck in development purgatory where they don't really go anywhere, I'm not so sure anymore. But it seems like the slowdown may have been related to the addition of more art, and I understand sourcing art can be very time consuming so I'm at least sympathetic. There are also so many choices to be made that need to have an impact on the story. This game's story is definitely going somewhere and I hope that's obvious if you've finished the available content lol. There's another update going public this week! All of these things you mention are factors in the slowdown, but I think the biggest factor may be that the dev switches between projects as a way to stay productive without burning out. She writes novels under a different name, and she's also put out multiple games during the development of this one. In fact, one is coming out in less than a month! It's a completed 30-hour RPG called Once Ever After. The production values on this one are much higher than the "use every freeware RPG Maker asset" level that is The Last Sovereign, the story is very good, and though I wouldn't call cuckqueaning the focus, there are some nice scenes! Pics and link related. https://store.steampowered.com/app/951860/Once_Ever_After/ [Moderation Edit: Spoiled images at poster's request, ref. >>3247 ] [Moderator Note: Split-reposted to >>3289 in the Cuckquean Games thread at >>3267.]
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>>3240 >the dev switches between projects as a way to stay productive without burning out. She writes novels under a different name, and she's also put out multiple games during the development of this one. Good for her. I admire any independent creative who can consistently ship product like that. I'm sure it is a great deal harder than it looks. >the story is very good Given how much I've enjoyed the author's other work, I am willing to believe you without qualification. >there are some nice scenes! Pics and link related. Thank you for sharing that with us Anon, but I don't think I'll be checking the game out in spite of the author-dev's sterling record. The example screenshots you've shared are, I suppose, of nice enough quality, but they immediately registered to my mind as interracial (as in the pornographic genre), and with that association came the imprint of numerous ugly/disgusting creations etc. that roil within its memetic wake. As first impressions of works go, an activated disgust reflex is hard to get past, and I don't think I would like to see more of the same. I know this is unfair and I'm very sorry, but perhaps that those who appreciate such things will enjoy it very much. I hope the author-dev makes oodles of money from it, in any case.
>>3243 >The example screenshots you've shared are, I suppose, of nice enough quality, but they immediately registered to my mind as interracial (as in the pornographic genre), and with that association came the imprint of numerous ugly/disgusting creations etc. that roil within its memetic wake. As first impressions of works go, an activated disgust reflex is hard to get past, and I don't think I would like to see more of the same. Oh, I'm sorry, I hadn't considered that possibility! Unfortunately I don't think I can spoiler the pictures now that they are posted. Maybe a board moderator could do it? I don't think it's meant to evoke that sort of thing, but I can't deny that three characters represented there are of a fairer hue and two are of a duskier one. If it helps at all, the wolfman there isn't really a stand-in for any particular human race, and he isn't even the male lead; he's just the brunette's partner. And he was the easiest one to get a screenshot of engaging in cq-related activities.
>>3247 >Unfortunately I don't think I can spoiler the pictures now that they are posted. Maybe a board moderator could do it? You could try making a non-global report to draw the board owner and/or volunteers' attention to the request, but there's no guarantee they'll immediately see or act on it. >I don't think it's meant to evoke that sort of thing, but I can't deny that three characters represented there are of a fairer hue and two are of a duskier one. >If it helps at all, the wolfman there isn't really a stand-in for any particular human race What it is meant to evoke and what it does evoke are two different things, and what is in the pictures when taken to their basics is one very black-skinned man contrasted against two pale-skinned and one cinnamon-skinned women. I understand that in a pornographic context "interracial" labels exclusively a pairing of black-skinned men with pale-skinned women. The opposite pairing apparently has a different label because the markets who consume each are different. That's beside my point though, which is that when taken as image alone his having wolf bits or being some other lightly demihuman species with black skin within the story doesn't much alter how the scene fundamentally presents, and so as soon as I see it the associations I mentioned before are immediately pulled in. Others who see the image but like those same associations or have different associations to interracial will probably enjoy it, but the fact remains that the associations in both cases are still operating whether or not the artist wants them to. I just happen to notice this mostly unconscious process consciously. Anyway, I think I have now very much over-explained it. That Ulfina character is very cute.
>>3240 >>3247 >According to the dev we are much closer than that! That's encouraging! So, four or five years? In all seriousness, I'm looking forward to playing it end-to-end when the time comes. >the dev switches between projects as a way to stay productive without burning out. She writes novels under a different name, and she's also put out multiple games during the development of this one. I join my admiration to >>3243 - you'd think knuckling down and doing what you both want and need to do on creative projects would be pretty straightforward, but no! I'm told that just doing the work at all is a pitched battle even if your brain hasn't been built from bits of smashed-up roulette wheel, so good on her. >I don't think it's meant to evoke that sort of thing >the wolfman there isn't really a stand-in for any particular human race May I, as well? Apparently the game's an elaboration on the well-worn dirty-retelling-of-Little-Red-Riding-Hood trope, so that would make our charcoal-hued gentleman here the Big Bad Wolf, correct? The lurking animalistic threat who is subconsciously associated with the taboo(=thrilling) and is therefore the first entity you reach for when you're looking to porn up the tale? I'm not so pretentious as to think of myself as a writer but I'd like to imagine I know my way around an archetypal smut-structure or two, and setting the wolf's skin colour to #000 fine, 277°/19%/27% and then emphasising his schlong surrounded by a moat of rosy skin looks plenty purposeful in retrospect, even if we allow that it didn't have to be on purpose—which is a distinction that in storytelling matters as much as the simile I couldn't think of to finish this sentence. I do—under protest—live in the real world at least some of the time, so fundamentally my first glimpse gave the same impression as >>3243 outlined: Everything's present and accounted for, and even though his face registers as Anime Bad Boy Pattern Three Mark 2, that's the logo on the mug full of chocolate in cream topped with cocoa sprinkle. That has its certain audience; they'll happily wear the wolfman-as-genus rasa figleaf even as their clockwork makes the free-association jump from Big Bad Wolf's acronym, though I hope for the publisher's sake that none will be so crass as to include it in their Steam reviews. [Moderator Note: Split-reposted to >>3290 in the Cuckquean Games thread at >>3267.]
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>>3240 >semantic versioning This is an interesting way to version one's project. 10 major updates in two years isn't bad, we've only had one Dwarf Fortress update in that time after all. >This game's story is definitely going somewhere >I think the biggest factor may be that the dev switches between projects Oh it's definitely going somewhere, and that's why I'm more than willing to wait while they take the time to do it right. And I also think it's a great idea to work on other projects, not just to avoid burnout but also to put bread on the table. The Patreon can only fund so much, and I'm getting a great game for free. I hope I didn't come across as ungrateful by saying I was a little disappointed with the pace of dev. The game is quite fun as it is and I've enjoyed my time with it, I would just be even happier if it was finished. I've also see a lot of projects flounder near the end and it would be a shame to see that happen here. Though, honestly, if development stopped now I'd also be a little disappointed but that wouldn't take away the good times I've had playing it. >There's another update going public this week! I'm mad at past me for deciding to download it shortly before a new release. At least save compatibility seems to be a thing, so here's hoping I wont have problems with that like I've had for other games. [Moderator Note: Split-reposted to >>3291 in the Cuckquean Games thread at >>3267.]
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>>3251 >The Patreon can only fund so much, and I'm getting a great game for free. I hope I didn't come across as ungrateful by saying I was a little disappointed with the pace of dev. The game is quite fun as it is and I've enjoyed my time with it, I would just be even happier if it was finished. Way to show the rest of us up on the humility front, Anon. This is what I should have already said. [Moderator Note: Split-reposted to >>3292 in the Cuckquean Games thread at >>3267.]
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>>3250 >May I, as well? Apparently the game's an elaboration on the well-worn dirty-retelling-of-Little-Red-Riding-Hood trope, so that would make our charcoal-hued gentleman here the Big Bad Wolf, correct? The lurking animalistic threat who is subconsciously associated with the taboo(=thrilling) and is therefore the first entity you reach for when you're looking to porn up the tale? I'm not so pretentious as to think of myself as a writer but I'd like to imagine I know my way around an archetypal smut-structure or two, and setting the wolf's skin colour to #000 fine, 277°/19%/27% Not sure I understand your color notation, but your points are well taken, and fairly obvious once the basic association is pointed out to me. Before posting, I was more worried about him being too furry than too dark. I guess that should've been a secondary concern at most. Anyway, he isn't the Big Bad Wolf so much as a Big Bad Wolf, as he's neither the first nor the main example in the game. The most important Wolf is Ulfina here, and I hope it's not too big a spoiler to say that she does not possess a Big Bad Wang. There are several other takes on the archetype, including one location where the Wolf role is played by, essentially, the government (also pic related). >>3251 >This is an interesting way to version one's project. It used to be more mainstream but I think the Google Chrome team destroyed that norm almost singlehandedly by basically going "wow, you're on Firefox 3? Internet Explorer 7? Chrome is already up to version 28, and you know big numbers are better!" So now we have modern app development, where the numbers are made up and the milestones don't matter. >save compatibility Has been an explicit priority since the only time it was broken, years ago with version 0.8. [Moderator Note: Split-reposted to >>3295 in the Cuckquean Games thread at >>3267.]
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>>3253 >Alright, now that I've hit the Return key twice it's time to trample all over what I just said and play chasies with the new and shiny idea! I have many thought about all of this, but am wondering if this is the right place to discuss them? After nearly taking over the stories thread with Free Cities talk I'd hate to do that here. Would it make sense to move to another thread like worldbuilding/fantasy or QTDDTOT? IDK if I have enough to say to warrant a "Cuckquean Game Ideas" thread. [Moderator Note: Suggested thread was created; this post copy-reposted to >>3296 in the Cuckquean Games thread at >>3267.]
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>>3259 I don't consider normal thread drift a big deal from a moderation perspective but if you'd all prefer to have a new thread then I can aggregate the Free Cities discussion in the story thread and the recent non-Last Sovereign discussion in this thread together into a new cuckquean gaming thread. It looks like Lynxchan doesn't give me the ability to move posts around directly so the reposted "moved" posts would have different times. Let me know if you'd like that.
>>3263 This sounds good to me. My recent posts in this thread mix TLS discussion, other games by that dev, and discussion of cuckquean gaming concepts generally, all in the same post... but if you're editing and reposting stuff I guess that works to separate all that out however feels appropriate.
>>3263 I don't find myself minding either way, honestly. It's not like we're being a nuisance to others, as we would be if this were a bustling TLS discussion thread on a faster board. But on the other hand, it would also be nice to have it all concentrated in one place. The only downside would be having you do all that extra work. >so the reposted "moved" posts would have different times I suppose for completeness, you could always add the original post time at the top or bottom of the reposted text, though that is extra work on top of already manually reposting our word-spasms for us.
>>3264 >>3265 I'll do it soon then. Please don't be alarmed when bits of posts start being sliced out. >other games by that dev Would you like that part to be left in this thread or moved to the new one?
>>3266 Finished. The new Cuckquean Games thread is at >>3267 and contains the recent non-TLS drift from this thread and the Free Cities drift from the story thread. I added a little note to make it clear that posts were split or copied. Posts that were moved had their times and origin noted as well. >Would you like that part to be left in this thread or moved to the new one? Since the game in question is related to TLS because it has the same developer I decided to keep it in this thread. That's it from me for now. Enjoy.
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Even a demon with an alien mindset can be taught the joys of watching cock go into other women. (Yes, that is a pillow fort. Yes, it's being held up by her horns.)
>>3614 >Yes, it's being held up by her horns.
>>3614 As a person with more degenerate fetishes, the idea of being cucked while I'm in a blanketfort is so amazingly on point that I'm vary surprised I haven't thought of it yet. More fuel for the fet fire.
>>3240 >Once Ever After Might this be available anywhere on a DRM-free shopfront, like Humble or GoG or something?
>>3637 Anon, are you a "little"? It's okay if you are, but otherwise I'm curious what fetishes you could mean. >>3836 My understanding is that it was supposed to be on itch.io by now, like the dev's other games, but the feedback during the Early Access period on Steam led to a bunch of stuff that wasn't in the original plan, like an easy mode for combat. I believe there is also a plan to add another h-scene or two during a plot section with a low amount of them (there were complaints). I do know that if you've cumulatively pledged an equivalent amount to the purchase price of any of the dev's games, on SubscribeStar or Patreon, you can request a copy of that game, and that copy would be DRM-free. I think that's the only DRM-free option right now (even the pirate sites had a buggy outdated version last I checked).
>>3857 Thank you. I guess I'll wait and see what options end up being available on full release.
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>>3836 >>3863 It's full release time apparently, and it is indeed at https://sierralee.itch.io/once-ever-after
>>3857 >Anon, are you a "little"? Admitting it makes me feel disgusting, but yea. That's one that stays locked up and not explored, where it belongs.
>>4137 Aw anon, that's up to you, but it's not hurting anything to explore a kink with another consenting adult. Or more than one, since that scenario requires at least two other people.
>>4137 We once had a vixen who was a little. Neither I nor my bf was directly into it, but we didn’t mind it and he found ways to work it in when they played together. He said that at the core of her version of the kink was the need to receive kind, forceful attention; she was a smart woman but happiest when he made her feel she wasn’t to be taken seriously (but in a good way, if that makes sense). Viewed this way, the little-girl trappings were ways for her to channel that feeling of being patronised and looked after that put her into a very sexual place. I guess what I’m saying is that even if your version of littleness uses scenarios or props that cross into degenerate territory, it might still be worth coming to understand them and what different parts of you are getting out of them. “Fetish” in its sexual sense gets its meaning from its original religious or ritual sense, where an object is powerful because it acts as an intermediary between our world and others. Ultimately it’s up to you, of course. I’ve seen plenty of cuckqueans who cross over into little territory, so at least you aren’t alone in that.
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>>3857 >Silvervale crossover ...but why, though?
>>4140 Being patronized sounds like a form of submissive kink that is relatable even to non-littles, though I'm sure there was something that made little-ness a good way to access that. What confuses me is how one works it into vixening. Were you pretending to spoil her by giving her more than her 'fair share' of your man's attention? I suppose if she'd been the quean you could've turned it around and made denial play patronizing? >>4227 I'm not sure there is a reason beyond "two wolf girls would look cute together" but I'm not the commissioner. I have played the game and there are no vtubers in it, nothing so immersion-breaking.
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>>4237 >What confuses me is how one works it into vixening. The little thing wasn't really something that existed between she and I since they didn't play in front of me and I didn't directly participate in their dynamic. I was the one to first meet and strike up rapport with her so she knew what I was when I introduced her to my guy, and after they hit it off she and I stayed that same kind of acquaintance-friendly, but there was no sexual bond between us. We grabbed coffee together once or twice and chatted about various things, but the most we ever really discussed the fact that she was fucking my man was the occasional "he came back pretty happy, heard you two had a good time" / "oh we totally did" sort of thing. She understood cuckqueaning but didn't feel it in her belly, if that makes sense, so the kind of cuckquean/vixen dynamic like you sometimes read about on here never formed. Her littleness was never something she and I talked about, but it did come up once. When my guy plays without me, he always keeps me in the loop with messages so I still feel involved and can cheer him on from afar. Apparently one night she got really, really bratty and he had to put his foot down and turn it into a session of "teaching her how to behave like a proper little lady", which of course was what she wanted. But he's not the kind of guy who's content to let vixens set the pace - he pushes. So I get a message from him out of the blue saying to expect a message from her, which I didn't quite understand at the time, and then a little later I get one from her which was written formally, but child-formally if that makes sense, thanking me for sharing him with her and saying how grateful she was to have his cock in her right now as well as a couple of other things she loved about playing with him. There were some typos because apparently his improvised "lessons on manners" had disciplined and edged her way into subspace and he'd had her write that message while she was straddling him but he was holding her down, pressing his cock deep in and edging her by various other means but preventing her from moving until she finished as part of teaching her gratitude and saying "thank you". Since I'd been tipped off I wrote back saying I was happy to hear all that and inviting her to keep having fun with him. So yeah, I guess the answer to how it worked into vixening was that it didn't. She was a little with him, not with me, and I was cucked by him, rather than by her. Does that make sense?
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>>4227 But why horrified, though? >>4238 >written formally, but child-formally if that makes sense, thanking me for sharing him Ah yes, I too recall being coerced into writing thank-you notes as a child. I wouldn't have thought to sexualize that, so that's quite creative. >So yeah, I guess the answer to how it worked into vixening was that it didn't. So you say, right after relating a story of cuckqueaning activity I find hot as fuck and amusing as well. I think I get what you mean though.
>>3240 >>3243 >>3247 >>3248 >>3250 >>3257 >The most important Wolf is Ulfina here >browsing DLsite >see game >’oh! I remember this, it was the one /cuckquean/ mentioned!’ >site gave me a coupon when I logged in so maybe now is a good time to buy >click listing >literally the first game screenshot is negrowolf dick on lighter-skinned girls >and the second >close tab The game knew what it wanted to sell me, and it wasn’t this Ulfina.
>>4273 >But why horrified, though? Not that anon, so I don’t know, but maybe because she has a rep for being trashy and unpleasant? Never watched them but from what I see around that’s kind of Vshoujo‘s thing, so it must have an audience.
>>4480 It's on DLsite? I was thinking of making an Itch.io account and buying it for myself as an early Christmas present, but since I already have a DLSite account— >>literally the first game screenshot is negrowolf dick on lighter-skinned girls >>and the second Alright, well, yeah, you're right, but maybe our negerwulf here just happens to be the leading man for DLsite purposes? For some reason? >>3257 told us he wasn't the main wolf, after all. So I looked at the creator's Twitter account, and yeah, the first Once Ever After-related image on the feed is that same guy fucking a white girl with the composition of the picture very particularly making sure we see the contrast of his skin interleaved against hers, and then a little further down we have a CG of a rosy-skinned blue-eyed blonde being made airtight by three distinctly dark penises, which was a surprising escalation even after what we saw ITT. I also found out via a bit of Googling that lead to F95's thread tags that apparently the game contains "futa/trans", which comes as another surprise considering the DLsite tags were a relatively mild "Breasts, Elf / Fairy, Fantasy, Blowjob / Fellatio". Phew—forewarned is forearmed, huh? I'd've not enjoyed that ambush at all. It's the creator's prerogative to fill her game with as much untagged black-on-white interracial futa gangbanging as she wants, of course, and judging from my skim of the F95 thread that has its own... particular audience, just as one would expect. Which is good, because they are welcome to it. I... this is new to me, being even a little upset about something like this. Novel, you know? Is the guilt over the triviality of it a usual part of the sensation? The futile certainty that it shouldn't be any of my business? It's quite a feeling.
>>4487 >a little further down we have a CG of a rosy-skinned blue-eyed blonde being made airtight by three distinctly dark penises Well there you go. Guess I wasn’t as wrong as I wanted to be. I don’t know why you wouldn’t just tag all that stuff instead of trying to pass it off as so normal that it doesn’t matter, but at least it’s better to find out like this than in the middle of the game.
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>>4489 >I don’t know why you wouldn’t just tag all that stuff instead of trying to pass it off Who knows? It's obviously something they find appealing enough to include, so why not help those who'd actually want to see that sort of thing find it? Conversely, if you don't find it all that appealing and don't want to attract its audience, why include it at all? >at least it’s better to find out like this than in the middle of the game Indeed it is; on reflection, this all turned out rather well! Thank you, Anon, for saving us some shekels and time.
>>4480 >>4487 >>4491 As the anon who posted that, this is making me feel a little like a crazy person, because I know the game isn't like that. I hadn't really looked at the promo material before, and I don't know why it focuses on that. >found out via a bit of Googling that lead to F95's thread tags that apparently the game contains "futa/trans", >Phew—forewarned is forearmed, huh? I'd've not enjoyed that ambush at all. Forewarned is forearmed - the futa thing is one scene late in the game, which is clearly marked and clearly optional. There is no penalty for taking the skip option. It's in the F95 tags because (as best I can tell) F95 tags anything that appears in a game at all. >So I looked at the creator's Twitter account, and yeah, the first Once Ever After-related image on the feed is that same guy fucking a white girl with the composition of the picture very particularly making sure we see the contrast of his skin interleaved against hers, and then a little further down we have a CG of a rosy-skinned blue-eyed blonde being made airtight by three distinctly dark penises, which was a surprising escalation even after what we saw ITT. Similarly, that gangbang is one scene, the only one of its type, clearly marked and optional. You do get something for doing that one, but it's so far into the postgame that I can't imagine anyone actually needing to do it in order to 100% the rest of the game. And even that dark wolf himself... has more than one scene, but he's not the male lead - that's Wilhelm, the one who is white and is an actual party member. Dark wolf there shows up in one scene early in the game, true, but then fucking vanishes for like half the game after that. So these are just... baffling marketing decisions? Actually, yeah, that's my new theory to try and make sense of this. The dev tried to do a cynical marketing ploy and foolishly focused on making the game look like the kind of content that PornHub pushes, not realizing that PornHub has an agenda and isn't responding to organic market trends. And I guess hoped that players get hooked by the story before they realize they haven't seen a whole lot of dark skin or fur in a while. Anyway, he's got anime boy face and hair, eats rice instead of yams and watermelon, and wears a changpao. I'm pretty sure he's only that color because the game explicitly plays with the idea of Fate-like forces, er, forcing people into tropes, and Asian cultures often have the same black=Bad associations. Well, and maybe because real wolves usually aren't pale, and having him and Ulfina both white might have raised some pointed questions among the shit-stirring crowd - you post on Twitter, you pay the toll, or however that saying goes. >I... this is new to me, being even a little upset about something like this. Novel, you know? Is the guilt over the triviality of it a usual part of the sensation? The futile certainty that it shouldn't be any of my business? It's quite a feeling. Perhaps cuckquean still feels like such an underdog fetish to have that it's possible to be sensitive to the feeling that for once a dev is really One Of Us, and then to disappointment when realizing it's not quite as perfect a meeting of minds as you hoped. I think she's still One Of Us though, as someone clearly into compersive man-sharing. >which comes as another surprise considering the DLsite tags were a relatively mild "Breasts, Elf / Fairy, Fantasy, Blowjob / Fellatio". This I don't even know. Elf/Fairy? I think there was a fairy or two in the game, but not sexualized. Might be a mix-up of some kind, since there was a fairy sex scene in Sierra Lee's Ouroboros, which is probably a game more up /cuckquean/'s alley despite being shorter and lower-budget, seeing as it focuses on one man and a few women who share him, with less extreme fetish content. Maybe pick that up if DLsite is handing out coupons. (Though personally I wouldn't buy Western games off DLsite. Don't they censor everything they sell, in accordance with Japanese law?)
>>4493 >(Though personally I wouldn't buy Western games off DLsite. Don't they censor everything they sell, in accordance with Japanese law?) Doesn’t matter, since this has reminded me of why I usually stay far away from OELVN “devs”.
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>>4493 What can I say? If you learn about race from academics, sexual trends from Pornhub, or anything from Twitter, you probably deserve what you get. ...which is going to be nothing because why would anybody care about the sort of opinions posted by a no good very bad uh-uh oy vey yikes sweetie das rayciss anon who posts on a 0.03pph forum about Estonian shell-carvings? I might be irrelevant, but I am still myself, and I can still express that inside my own underwear. If that makes me a fascist then get Hugo Boss on the horn because they need to design a new line of lingerie. >he's got anime boy face and hair, eats rice instead of yams and watermelon, and wears a changpao Every boy in an anime-styled game has anime boy face and hair. If someone deliberately—and it was deliberate, there's no such thing as accidental when it comes to the long slog of writing and editing a product meant for market—casts black dick into sex scenes in the role of the oh-so-taboo Big Bad Wolf (sorry, an oh-so-taboo Big Bad Wolf) who thrillingly "devours" various lily-white heroines then you can dress him up as an Eskimo and have him eat ratatouille while drinking raki outside the CGs, it's still surface decoration thinly stretched over structural fundamentals. >even that dark wolf himself... has more than one scene, but he's not the male lead >Dark wolf there shows up in one scene early in the game, true, but then fucking vanishes for like half the game after that. Is this supposed to crack him out of his mould? Break it down to its archetypal components: A dangerous, handsome, dark-skinned, taboo stranger (cast in the role of never mind I'm repeating myself) appears first, does a bit of ravaging, swans away, is replaced by a "true" lead... only to reappear much later, get another scene, and of course—only if you're up for it, tee-hee—he'll bring his friends around for a gangbang. Heard that one before? A story's essence is in its structure, its bones, and if you arm and engine those along certain lines then the stench is going to seep up through whatever skin wraps it. >So these are just... baffling marketing decisions? Decisions, yes. Steam lists Sierra Lee as both developer and publisher, so this is very much a cottage work with all the control one expects of a one-woman show. This wasn't last-minute: Both Lee and the illustrator specifically chose, mostly to the exclusion of all this other content that supposedly exists, to represent the game using the IR-coded CGs over the course of months. Even you, dear Anon, back in >>3240 chose his scenes to show us—actually, look, there's even a bit of ahegao, how unusual, how against type—because they were the CQ stuff that was easiest to access i.e. the front material that's supposed to get the player bought into the rest. I see his sprite, what, twice(?) in the scene gallery, and even with only a quick glance at the DLsite page, the creator's Twitter feed, and what was posted here, I've already seen way more CGs than that count would imply. So, no, I don't buy that it's entirely a matter of marketing—this wasn't the result of some cigar-chomping suit having an intern gather Pornhub stats for an hour or two and then pointing a jeweled-ring-encrusted finger to any screenshot with dark meat because "the numbers" said that was what would sell, this was the game's creator specifically and deliberately baking it in, giving it CQ-with-a-side-of-ahegao scenes, and then specifically and deliberately choosing it to represent the game to the point it's the almost the first thing we see in any place where adult screenshots are allowed at all. >Perhaps cuckquean still feels like such an underdog fetish to have that it's possible to be sensitive to the feeling that for once a dev is really One Of Us, and then to disappointment when realizing it's not quite as perfect a meeting of minds as you hoped. The only surprise was that I was still capable of disappointment. That's a good thing: Some part of me can still hope. But it's no tragedy; what's one more Twitterised creator in the grand scheme of things? I don't like being annoyed or disappointed; it's better to focus on what is lovely in life rather than becoming ill-tempered or spiteful, and to avoid, where possible, things that might do harm to those lovely things. >Maybe pick that up if DLsite is handing out coupons. Thank you for the recommendation Anon, I'll take it in the spirit it was meant, but my ardor for early Christmas presents has cooled. My time is probably better spent on more productive things anyway, and >>3243 said it best: >an activated disgust reflex is hard to get past Besides, DLsite is always handing out coupons, at least to me. >>4494 I'd usually argue that there must be some decent ones out there, maybe, but in the present climate how would we know? Some of them might be doing it as a ring-kiss, but then should the winds ever change they'll all claim that, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I have part of a VN draft that I stopped because I was certain it'd get me doxed and hunted down, for whatever that's worth (hint: nothing). Cute 10gu!
>>4495 >Cute 10gu! Yes. >I have part of a VN draft that I stopped because I was certain it'd get me doxed and hunted down, for whatever that's worth That’s a shame. Your only real option would be to release it for free and anonymously. Not ideal if you want to make any money from it. >I'd usually argue that there must be some decent ones out there, maybe, but in the present climate how would we know? Same way we know any other tree, by its fruit. OELVNs earned their reputation the same way anything else earns a reputation. I’ll stop being prejudiced when they stop proving me right. >DLsite is always handing out coupons I usually get one every few logins or so. It’s a good way of doing things because it applies to the whole cart, so I end up looking for more stuff to buy than whatever it was I logged in for. >they were the CQ stuff that was easiest to access >I see his sprite, what, twice(?) in the scene gallery, and even with only a quick glance at the DLsite page, the creator's Twitter feed, and what was posted here, I've already seen way more CGs than that count would imply. There are lots of girl sprites in the gallery and I doubt the game is mostly yuri, so he probably appears in some of those too. >A dangerous, handsome, dark-skinned, taboo stranger (cast in the role of never mind I'm repeating myself) appears first, does a bit of ravaging, swans away, is replaced by a "true" lead... only to reappear much later, get another scene, and of course—only if you're up for it, tee-hee—he'll bring his friends around for a gangbang. Sounds about right. If the usual pattern holds then the sex in his scenes will probably be dirtier and more exciting, where the true lead‘s ones will be gentler and more romantic, meaning there’s more contrast and punch when the black wolf comes back later. You’ll notice that the only threesomes and cuckqueany scenes with penetration we’ve been shown are all with the black wolf too. You get a sense for it. Seen it before. Not interested in seeing it again. >If you learn about race from academics, sexual trends from Pornhub, or anything from Twitter, you probably deserve what you get. Most people don’t know there’s anything different. That’s why it works.
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>>4493 >that gangbang is one scene, the only one of its type, clearly marked and optional. You do get something for doing that one Lmao, it locks a postgame item behind an interracial gangbang? What do you get for it, chlamydia?
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>>4493 I'm willing to believe that this is all overblown, but the fact that the dev seems to be emphasising the IR herself combined with what >>4495 >>4496 and >>4499 point out about the NTR-like structure his scenes and "bad boy" casting imply has me suspicious. I've seen writers try to slip cuckoldry into their work before, even when their previous stuff is OK. But there's an easy way to dispel things. You've clearly played the game a lot and have unlocked all the scenes, including the possibly objectionable ones. Would you mind telling us, in full, exactly how this black wolf is involved, how his sex scenes are treated, how that compares with how other characters' sex scenes are treated, and any other information we might find relevant? So far we know: >The black wolf appears first. >He has sex with at least 4 different girls in scenes that at least include cuckquean, ahegao, threesome, and lots of other good stuff. >(This "good stuff" is so good that it's used for the marketing material and was chosen by the dev to show off on her Twitter) >At some point he goes elsewhere and is replaced with Wilhelm, who is apparently the White male lead. >Later, the black wolf comes back, and has sex with the girls again (implied by the presence of his scene in the gallery). >(It hasn't been mentioned where Wilhelm is at this point.) >Sometime in post-game the blue-eyed blonde girl (the main character?) has the option of being gangbanged by him(?) and two other dark-skinned guys. There is a reward for accepting this. >The nature of Wilhelm's sex scenes and partner count during all this is unknown, but is speculated to be gentler and more romantic. >The nature of other characters, their sex scenes, and so on is also unknown, but aren't involved right now. So it's not looking good based on what we've seen and even if he wasn't black there'd be some questions. But he is black, and since right now his arc is looking a lot like an NTR story, that is, male cuckoldry, I can understand anons' suspicion. If you're up to it, please give us some evidence? If it does turn out that the game's got some stuff that /cuckquean/ hates, then that's okay, please still tell us. I think it's better to be truthful, because most of the upset I see above seems to be from the feeling that anon has been lied to by omission.
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>>4500 Here is some new material to be entered into evidence, should it please the court.
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>>4501 Thank you. Let us first give the anon who posted >>4493 the chance to respond to the questions put in >>4500
>>4500 >most of the upset I see above seems to be from the feeling that anon has been lied to by omission I'd say that's... part of it, yes. >>4502 Very well.
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After I saw the material in >>4501 and posted >>4502 I decided to put this matter to rest and acquired a copy of the game to examine first-hand. It did not take very long. My questions to Anon in >>4500 having now been superseded (though they are of course still invited to reply), let's get this little farce over with. tl;dr Sierra Lee's Once Ever After, in contradiction of representations made by Anon to /cuckquean/, as well as the game's store tags and descriptions, contains a significant percentage of interracial pornography (that is, black man on white woman), comprising around half of all pornographic scenes in the game that feature a man at all. Further, the overwhelming majority of two-woman-one-man threesomes and other /cuckquean/-interest material soley feature the black-skinned male character with women whose skin is of a paler hue; where the black-skinned male character's threesomes include penetrative sex that is shown to greatly satisfy his partners, while the pale-skinned male "lead" character only participates in a single double-titjob scene. The game also features other material classifiable as interracial encouragement, including a scene in which the pale-skinned female lead initially masturbates to the fantasy of the pale-skinned male lead, then switches to fantasising about the black-skinned male character instead, noting a "surge of shame" before reassuring herself that it is "just a harmless fantasy" and proceeding to a powerful orgasm. This fantasy is later fulfilled. In this way, and others, the interracial sex elements in the game are not incidental and "colour-blind", as /cuckquean/ was previously lead to believe, but actively emphasised. The Circumstances "Once Ever After" is a game created by Sierra Lee using the RPG Maker engine. Additional art assets, including adult CGs, were provided by an illustrator known as Crescentia as well as some chibi-style scenes by an illustrator known as NealaYiskah. Based on material found on their Twitter accounts, both illustrators appear to have been hired by and accepted sole direction from Ms. Lee as to their work on the game. Various other contributors are listed in the game's credits file as well. Ms. Lee is best known for her ongoing work on "The Last Sovereign", another RPG Maker game, for which she presently receives from her public a monthly gross stipend of US$5,190 via Patreon. The Last Sovereign's focus on compersive man-sharing has for many years made it a game of interest to /cuckquean/. On the 24th of March, 2022, in a thread dedicated to The Last Sovereign, an anonymous poster told /cuckquean/ in >>3240 that >[Sierra Lee] switches between projects as a way to stay productive without burning out. She writes novels under a different name, and she's also put out multiple games during the development of this one. >In fact, one is coming out in less than a month! It's a completed 30-hour RPG called Once Ever After. The production values on this one are much higher than the "use every freeware RPG Maker asset" level that is The Last Sovereign, the story is very good, and though I wouldn't call cuckqueaning the focus, there are some nice scenes! The anonymous poster provided three screenshots from Once Ever After, each showing a black man drawn in "bishounen" anime style with engaged in sex with various pale-skinned women, two of which explicitly showed encouragement by another woman not directly involved in the coitus, and the other one showing her providing spoken encouragement from out of frame. In reply, various anonymous posters pointed out that these screenshots reminded them of interracial pornography, and provided various explanations as to why, in response to assertions by the original poster in >>3247 that the black-skinned man (quoted verbatim): >isn't really a stand-in for any particular human race >isn't even the male lead >[is] just the brunette's partner >was the easiest one to get a screenshot of engaging in cq-related activities >isn't the Big Bad Wolf so much as a Big Bad Wolf, as he's neither the first nor the main example in the game However, they noted that the interracial association was valid and >fairly obvious once the basic association is pointed out to me Once Ever After was brought up in other /cuckquean/ threads from time to time, mostly pointing out its existence and the fact that it was available for purchase. Eight months later, on the 28th of November, 2022, an anonymous poster in >>4480 related that they had viewed the listing for Once Ever After on DLsite with intent to purchase it, but had closed their tab after seeing that the first and second screenshots showing off the game's content were >negrowolf dick on lighter-skinned girls They further commented, in relation to the earlier assertion that the "main" wolf was a female, pale-skinned wolf-girl named Ulfina, that >The game knew what it wanted to sell me, and it wasn’t this Ulfina. In reply in >>4487 another anonymous poster, thinking that perhaps the black-skinned male character's prominence was unique to the DLsite listing, viewed Sierra Lee's Twitter account (@Sierra_TLS) and noted that >the first Once Ever After-related image on the feed is that same guy fucking a white girl with the composition of the picture very particularly making sure we see the contrast of his skin interleaved against hers, and then a little further down we have a CG of a rosy-skinned blue-eyed blonde being made airtight by three distinctly dark penises This same poster noted that DLsite's tags for the game only mentioned >Breasts, Elf / Fairy, Fantasy, Blowjob / Fellatio despite the reported presence of futa, an interracial gangbang, and so on. The poster who originally introduced Once Ever After to the thread responded in >>4493 that >I know the game isn't like that >I hadn't really looked at the promo material before, and I don't know why it focuses on that >And even that dark wolf himself... has more than one scene, but he's not the male lead - that's Wilhelm, the one who is white and is an actual party member. >Dark wolf there shows up in one scene early in the game, true, but then fucking vanishes for like half the game after that. This poster speculated that the interracial emphasis in the material /cuckquean/ had seen at that point might be >baffling marketing decisions? Actually, yeah, that's my new theory to try and make sense of this. The dev tried to do a cynical marketing ploy and foolishly focused on making the game look like the kind of content that PornHub pushes, not realizing that PornHub has an agenda and isn't responding to organic market trends. And, further, that in any case >he's got anime boy face and hair, eats rice instead of yams and watermelon, and wears a changpao In response, it was pointed out in >>4495 and >>4496 (to whom I both apologise for blending their points together here) that the fundamental elements of interracial were present in any case, to wit: >If someone deliberately ... casts black dick into sex scenes in the role of the oh-so-taboo Big Bad Wolf ... who thrillingly "devours" various lily-white heroines then you can dress him up as an Eskimo and have him eat ratatouille while drinking raki outside the CGs, it's still surface decoration thinly stretched over structural fundamentals. Further, it was pointed out that the story structure in which the black-skinned male character had "first pick" of the women before the pale-skinned "lead" appeared, only to return later and continue having sex with those women, resembled many plot elements common to interracial cuckolding narratives: >A dangerous, handsome, dark-skinned, taboo stranger (cast in the role of never mind I'm repeating myself) appears first, does a bit of ravaging, swans away, is replaced by a "true" lead... only to reappear much later, get another scene, and of course—only if you're up for it, tee-hee—he'll bring his friends around for a gangbang. >If the usual pattern holds then the sex in his scenes will probably be dirtier and more exciting, where the true lead‘s ones will be gentler and more romantic, meaning there’s more contrast and punch when the black wolf comes back later. You’ll notice that the only threesomes and cuckqueany scenes with penetration we’ve been shown are all with the black wolf too. As to the idea that the interracial elements were only "skin deep", that is, emphasised in the marketing to the point that they grossly misrepresented their presence in the actual product: >I don't buy that it's entirely a matter of marketing... this was the game's creator specifically and deliberately baking it in, giving it CQ-with-a-side-of-ahegao scenes, and then specifically and deliberately choosing it to represent the game to the point it's the almost the first thing we see Thus, the points having been made, and some intermediary steps mentioned at the top of this post, I decided to examine the facts directly. The Facts I acquired a copy of Once Ever After, version 1.0, and examined its pornographic CGs in the www/img/pictures/ folder, each of which have filenames prefixed by a "z ". I also briefly examined some of the game's story script in the www/data/CommonEvents.json file. My findings are therefore mainly concerned with the content of the CGs, and only incidentally with the story script. However, what I did find in the script was quite definitive given the questions before me. (Others who wish to examine the script in more detail are of course invited to do so.) First, a brief look at the story script. There is a scene in which Ingrid, the pale-skinned, blue-eyed blonde woman who appears to be the female lead of the game, given that she appears in important CGs marked "Final", masturbates. In this scene, Wilhelm is the pale-skinned male "lead", and Fenris is the black-skinned male character mentioned above. The CGs in question are prefixed "z Ingrid", and the accompanying story text includes (quoted verbatim, without any omission in the middle): >It felt good, but something was missing. As Ingrid dared to push deeper, she began imagining something else... >First she thought of Wilhelm's cock pushing inside her and how good she had felt at that moment. His shaft had spread her so wide, rubbing against her inner walls... >She couldn't recreate that experience with just her fingers, but she could move them in different ways, finding the spots that felt best to her. >Her mind began to wander to Fenris and how good his body had looked... Ingrid felt a surge of shame before she realized that it was just a harmless fantasy. >So instead she leaned into it, imagining herself mounting him on the bed. She could ride him hard, cock plunging inside her as hard as her fingers, her breasts bouncing against his chest. >Yet her fantasy soon turned to Fenris grabbing her, throwing her down on the bed, and fucking her mercilessly. >Her thoughts took her over the edge and her hips spasmed violently, thrusting up against her own fingers. Ingrid tweaked her nipple hard as she came, hips lifting into the air. Perhaps Ingrid has not yet had sex with Fenris at this point in the story, but it is clear from later CGs that her "harmless fantasy" does indeed become reality. Note also the focus on Fenrir's active, bestial method of sex, which is a focus common in interracial erotica. This scene may not be the only place that "interracial encouragement" of this type appears; I did not examine the story script in depth, as mentioned before, but only stumbled on this from a brief word search. As to the pornographic CGs, I counted some 21 scenes that involved a man. Of these, 10 were interracial (starring Fenris, the black-skinned wolfman, or another dark-skinned man who was not visible), and 11 were not (starring Wilhelm, the pale-skinned male "lead", or another pale-skinned man who was not visible). However, one of the non-interracial scenes was with a futanari, and was therefore deducted, yielding 10 interracial scenes and 10 non-interracial scenes. The "main topic" of each of the scenes differs by whether they star Fenris or Wilhelm, as well. Fenris's scenes contain all penetrative threesomes, and the degree to which his sex is more "thrilling" than Wilhelm's is left to the reader's own judgement. Fenris's scenes include (repetitions indicate more than once scene of that "topic", one line for each scene), noting that only obvious cuckquean elements are mentioned and there may be some present in other scenes' story script: >FFM (w/ cuckquean elements) >FFM (w/ cuckquean elements) >FFM (w/ cuckquean elements) >FFM (w/ lesbian strapon, probable cuckquean elements) >Standing MFM (penetrating Ingrid's pussy, with Wilhelm taking her anus) >Titfuck (w/ cuckquean elements as we see from the screenshot provided in >>3240 ) >Cowgirl >Reverse Cowgirl >Gangbang Wilhelm's scenes include (with all the same parameters): >Standing Doggy >Double Titjob >Elderly Woman >Cowgirl >Titfuck >MFM (penetrating Ingrid's anus, with Fenris taking her pussy) >Blowjob >Doggy >Cowgirl >Missionary Fenris's partners are (partners common with Wilhelm listed last): >Brunhilde >Estra >Unknown Witch (present in FFM cuckqueaning scene) >Hood (in common with Wilhelm) >Ingrid (in common with Wilhelm) Wilhelm's partners are (partners common with Fenris listed last): >Ulfina >Freida (the elderly woman) >Unknown Girl in Flashback >Unknown Snow Woman (only 1 CG, seems to be part of a save cutscene) >Hood (in common with Fenris) >Ingrid (in common with Fenris) Conclusion /cuckquean/'s anons' intuition was strikingly correct as to the high proportion of interracial content and its type: Sierra Lee's "Once Ever After" is a game with a great amount of interracial pornography and explicit interracial encouragement both subtle and direct. Without an in-depth examination of the story script and how it unfolds to a player, the question of whether the "whole game" follows the general outline of interracial erotica that anons speculated upon cannot be definitively settled, but Ingrid's masturbation scene quoted above strongly indicates that it does. If Anon of >>3240 >>3247 >>3257 >>4493 had played the game as thoroughly as their posts imply, then they deliberately and egregiously misrepresented its content to /cuckquean/ by both direct lie and lie of omission, apparently in an attempt to shill it. All this could have been avoided had Anon been truthful with /cuckquean/ from the start. These are my findings.
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>>4504 Oh, yes, one last thing I forgot to mention in the recitation of circumstances under the quote of >[Sierra Lee] switches between projects as a way to stay productive without burning out. She writes novels under a different name, and she's also put out multiple games during the development of this one. is that Sierra Lee's novels are published under the alternative pen name of Sarah Lin. This identity is made clear to her Patreon patrons, so the US$5,190 stipend mentioned should not be construed as soley supporting The Last Sovereign, but also Sarah Lin's novels, her other games, and so on. Both names are pen names, of course. The author's actual identity was of no interest to the analysis at hand.
>>4504 >>4505 Thank you Eiki-sama. I am once again disappointed to have hit a bullseye. It’s pretty obvious who the “anon” shilling the game is. There’s nothing wrong with a bit of shilling but you should at least be honest when you do it.
>>4504 Thank you as always Eiki-sama. >It felt good, but something was missing. As Ingrid dared to push deeper, she began imagining something else... >As Ingrid dared to push deeper, she began >dared to push deeper >dared to push deeper Wait just a fucking minute. Eiki-sama, if you haven't packed up yet, please post the part of the scene that comes before that. It might be nothing, but I have a hunch.
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>>4509 The scene is titled "Bathhouse Masturbation". Here it is, in toto: >Ingrid hadn't masturbated since her world had changed, so it was strange to rediscover herself. She touched herself gently, easing into the experience. >Her body vibrated with growing pleasure, eager for more, yet she forced herself to keep moving slowly. As she stroked herself, she gently caressed her own breasts, felt her nipples growing harder. >It felt good, but something was missing. As Ingrid dared to push deeper, she began imagining something else... >First she thought of Wilhelm's cock pushing inside her and how good she had felt at that moment. His shaft had spread her so wide, rubbing against her inner walls... >She couldn't recreate that experience with just her fingers, but she could move them in different ways, finding the spots that felt best to her. >Her mind began to wander to Fenris and how good his body had looked... Ingrid felt a surge of shame before she realized that it was just a harmless fantasy. >So instead she leaned into it, imagining herself mounting him on the bed. She could ride him hard, cock plunging inside her as hard as her fingers, her breasts bouncing against his chest. >Yet her fantasy soon turned to Fenris grabbing her, throwing her down on the bed, and fucking her mercilessly. >Her thoughts took her over the edge and her hips spasmed violently, thrusting up against her own fingers. Ingrid tweaked her nipple hard as she came, hips lifting into the air. >Yet when it ended... she wanted more. Ingrid hesitantly began to touch her body again, marveling at how much more sensitive it was now. >Now that her fingers were coated in her own juices, she could rub against herself more forcefully and it still felt good. >She knew what everyone in Bangville would say about her, but she didn't care. Ingrid felt good, and she wanted more. >She plunged her fingers back inside her pussy, enjoying it even more this time. Her movements produced more sound than she expected, but she didn't slow down. >A dozen fantasies floated through her mind as she imagined herself being ravaged by some partners, riding others, and even stranger things. >Soon all the people she knew, men and women, were lying in a sticky pile. Ingrid stopped feeling silly and went for it, plunging deeper as her hand brushed against her clit. >Her second orgasm was better than the first, surging through her body and for a moment wiping out all conscious thought. >As Ingrid came to, she felt a flicker of shame and wondered how loud she'd been. Yet after a moment, she realized that she didn't care. Please provide your analysis.
>>4510 Thank you very much. My skills are rusty, but I recognize the way that the first part of this scene is written. >it was strange to rediscover herself >gently, easing into the experience >keep moving slowly >dared to push deeper >felt at that moment >could move them in different ways, finding the spots that felt best to her >Ingrid felt a surge of shame before she realized that it was just a harmless fantasy Eiki-sama, the first part of this scene up until the part where Fenris begins grabbing her is sprinkled with hypnotic induction language. This is language that is specifically designed to relax and bypass resistance in someone about to receive hypnotic suggestions. Your attention can be easily drawn to the fact that reading such language feels very easy and induces certain physical responses because it anticipates and targets mental resistance using gentle push-pull, relaxing the target before gradually easing them into imagining whatever kind of thing the writer or speaker wants them to. In real hypnosis this is paired with careful observation of the subject's facial muscles, breathing, and so forth, but it is also effective in writing. The induction anticipates and defuses the possibility that the reader will imagine Wilhelm, guides them towards imagining Fenris instead, slips in the "how good his body looks" before immediately catching and defusing pushback, then finally ends the induction by concretely describing the fantasy of sex with him, guiding them towards the character's orgasm as an anchor point. If you look carefully, you will notice that the hypnotic language disappears after the first orgasm, presumably because the writer has achieved their goal and does not want to interrupt the anchor they have planted. If we look carefully, the concretely described anchor is right in the middle of the scene, between the hypnotic induction, and the less hypnotic, more conventional distraction. Although the reader will assume the scene is intensifying with further orgasms, notice how the fantasies described become very general and do not specifically mention any particular concrete image. This is, in fact, bringing the reader out of the mini-trance and smooths things over so that the anchor does not call conscious attention to itself. What has been identified as interracial encouragement is more than that, it is actually a kind of guided interracial hypnosis.
>>4511 Sharp eyes. The implication that Sierra Lee consciously sculpted this scene to affect the player in the way your analysis suggests, perhaps preparing them for the more definite interracial down the road, is troubling, but it accords with what little knowledge I have on the subject and solidifies my finding. Those doubles are very well-deserved, Anon.
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>>4504 I knew, I knew, in my heart I knew, I knew this is how it would be; I knew it from the moment I saw the first screenshots, saw their hooked lines writhing in patterns writ through the pixels screaming, and I wanted so badly to be wrong that I bargained, I dickered, I looked the other way, and for a while it worked. Now I know. And it's better to know, isn't it? Isn't that, at its core, what this fetish is about—knowing things in rich, sensuous nosefuls? Except this isn't my man proudly coming home with his gliss-glazed cock primed for loving inspection, this is... just sad. Common. People lie all the time. It wasn't on the tin, but we got it anyway—the least surprising surprise of all. They can have it. They like it. They know what it is and they like it, cram it down their gullets, volcanic ash and oil and perfume emulsified, tweaked and edited to thirteen-pass perfection, feels just like what you need until the moment's over and the anaphylactic shock kicks in. That little upswelling aside: Thank you, Eiki-sama. >>4511 God damnit, you're right—I happen to be a pervert on this subject; once you point it out it's clear as day! My immediate thought is did you think we wouldn't notice? but of course why would someone? When text's fed to you a line at a time in the middle of a sex scene, you don't grasp the whole, you're just trying to have a good time... and who but anonymous perverts would stand a chance of knowing what to look for in the first place? The worst part is that this isn't even the first time this sort of thing has happened on /cuckquean/.
>>4511 >guided interracial hypnosis Now it’s worse than I thought, which doesn’t happen often. What a psychopath.
>>4513 >They know what it is But they don’t. We only know what it is now because we’re autists who’ve seen it all before and because Eiki-sama opened it up for us to look at objectively. Over 20-30 hours of gameplay even weirdos probably wouldn’t notice what the game is doing. Most places like Steam market it the way that it was shilled to us, cute and fluffy with the IR played way down.
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>>4504 >>4511 >side nigger gets all the FFM threesomes, cuckqueaning, lady knights, all the girls he fucks are hot and get off on him no matter what >lead White man gets a literal wrinkly old lady, the nigger's sloppy seconds, and main girl bimbo who ends up fucking the nigger anyway >hypno section about how sexy and liberating it will be for main girl to fuck the nigger Holy fucking shit, it's BLACKED EVER AFTER. Thank you Eiki-sama, thank you /cuckquean/ autists, this is sick but also funny as fuck.
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>>4517 It is, but I still want Anon to apologize for lying to us—this is the Internet, where you're supposed to tell the truth!

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