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Male advice Containment Anonymous 03/28/2021 (Sun) 20:29:38 No.2371
Just as the title of thread says, this is a containment thread for male advice. Other guys are welcome to post here as well, if there are any. Primarily making this because I need advice on how to approach and proceed on a few things and honestly have no idea how to go about things. The most that Im hoping for in my specific situation is at least a long, possibly awkward, conversation with my wife and at least getting her to be more willing to discuss various kinks that she has. Its not so much that Im incapable of talking to her about such, its just she tends to clam up about anything outside the social and religious orthodox that we come from. That isnt to say I dont know about other more conventional things, but engaging her about things outside that is rather tough. Its not as if I could flat out ask and not expect things to go poorly if I happen to be wrong. Again, Im mostly hoping for an awkward conversation and for life to just go on as normal. There are numerous things that lead me to believe she's into quean stuff; whatever dynamic I can only guess as she's rather demanding for control of things. Maybe a vixen? Ill go more indepth about this in another post, but what really seemed to make it clear was when having our last child we were unable to have sex for a good 4+ months and I was given permission to get a girlfriend so long as she knew about it. I didnt do this as like the other prior times such had come up, primarily out of an assumption that it was a shittest. Though other conversations about engaging in polygyny make me wonder. Some of these conversations are joking, teasing, and others are oddly serious. Even if nothing comes of it, I basically just want advice as to go about approaching such a conversation or leading into being able to get her to acknowledge such if only be closer to her. I think her reluctance is mostly based on our background which doesnt really allow for such and maybe other sexual things, whereas polygyny isnt exactly forbidden, just frowned upon and considered "illegal". Any kind of general advice would be welcomed, as well as any questions. Ill do my best to answer what I can overall without giving away too much.
>>2371 Guess I should have asked a question. What would be a good way to go about asking if she's actually somewhat into that without necessarily asking? >asking flat out if she'd wants me to have sex with someone else seems like a generally bad idea >especially if Im wrong Part of the reason I've decided to pursue part of this is because there may be a similar issue as what happened during the last pregnancy, though this time it would mean some seven months of no sex. Which means the offer may reappear again, but Id like to get things figured out before then. She didnt handle the last time very well.
>>2371 >Maybe a vixen? You might be confused. A vixen is the "other woman" who the man has sex with. >>2372 >She didnt handle the last time very well. Explain, please.
>>2373 Im still trying to figure out some of the terminology, my bad. >last time Got hospitalized for preterm labor (multiple times), eventually an observant nurse bothered to ask a million dollar question. Told that we couldnt have sex else it would keep happening. She apparently took this to mean she wasnt allowed to cum, not that the protein in the sperm was causing her to go into preterm. Orgasms can cause it, but its usually the protein like 90% of the time. 4+ months of no sex and she was... Different about things during and even after awhile. >offered that I could have a girlfriend >routinely asked for me to masturbate for her >would bring up and talk more depth about sex, in particular what I want or look for in women Which was odd, since I obviously wouldnt be looking >demanded to know a few times if I ever considered anyone other than her >told me to buy condoms but then adamantly refused that we should use them Personally at the time I chalked it up to her just being pent up and full of hormones; thats highly atypical behavior for her, shes usually very reserved and getting her to talk about anything sexual is often awkward or rather straightforward but with oddly family friendly phrasing. Were finally on a decade of marriage and she's only recently okay with dirty talking.
>>2371 >>2372 >>2374 Let's make sure we're talking about the same thing. Cuckqueaning is a sexual fetish/kink; I encourage my man to sleep around because I like it when he does. Two main types of cuckqueans exist: Compersive (mainly get off on their man getting off; don't experience it as humiliating) and humiliation-driven (mainly get off on the humiliation of their man getting off elsewhere; actively seek to be degraded by the experience). But take note: Just because a woman might allow her man to fuck another girl doesn't mean she's a cuckquean. For example, a woman involved in a threesome together with her man and a third girl might not particularly get off on her man fucking that third girl, and e.g. instead might enjoy experimenting with the bisexual aspect of it, regarding her man's sexual contact with the other girl as merely an interesting side-show she can take or leave. Such a woman would not be a cuckquean in the sexual fetish sense. I think it's safest to assume a woman doesn't have a cuckqueaning fetish until conclusively proven otherwise. What you've described plus the strong religious streak suggests to me that your wife might feel it to be her duty to ensure you're getting off regularly, and if she can't do so herself she seeks other means of doing so, up to and including suggesting you sleep around. If this is the case, it's not the same thing as wanting you to sleep around for her own sexual gratification. It's also possible (but much less probable) that she's nursing a secret cuckqueaning fetish and is only able to let herself express it when circumstances "force" it (e.g. she feels guilty about it so needs an excuse). Without being able to actually discuss it with her, there's very little you can do to determine which is which. I do wonder: You were offered a girlfriend, but what did your wife expect to happen once she'd given birth and was able to fulfil her marital duties again? You keep the girlfriend, or does the poor girl get kicked to the curb?
>>2375 Ill read more about it then. Id think overall if it does apply itd likely be compersive then, simply based on things that I know for certain. Ive considered both of those, which is part of why I wanted advice. Its not so much that I cant, just being overt about it might not go over well. Like... Is there a subtle way to find out or should I just go about trying to kickstart such a conversation? If it helps the more serious conversations about polygyny are part of what led me to making my assumption overall. To be entirely honest I have no idea, and hadnt considered that at all. I had completely dismissed everything, but if I hadnt that wouldnt have been a good situation at all; especially if she didnt have the fetish.
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>>2376 >Like... Is there a subtle way to find out or should I just go about trying to kickstart such a conversation? There are subtle ways to lead her into such a conversation, but they rely on context and skills that I suspect you might not have. One way might have been to say something like >Remember that thing about me having a girlfriend? I stumbled on an imageboard full of girls who like their men to have side girls, pretty weird huh? But since you've posted here, that's a non-starter. I'd counsel against introducing her to the "cuckquean" term early, if you were thinking about that, since the humiliation-driven stuff (much of it quite ugly) dominates search results and your wife might end up understanding the term to mean exclusively that. This is because humiliation-driven cuckqueans experience telling people about their humiliation as being even more humiliating, so naturally they do it more. >the more serious conversations about polygyny are part of what led me to making my assumption overall You keep referring to these but give us no information. What are we supposed to do with it? When it comes right down to it, it sounds like you're afraid of your wife's response no matter whether you approach it openly or covertly. That's not a great position to be in and will lead to misunderstandings at best and pain at worst.
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>You were offered a girlfriend, but what did your wife expect to happen once she'd given birth and was able to fulfill her marital duties again? You keep the girlfriend, or does the poor girl get kicked to the curb? The answer to this seems pretty important to me. If it's to kick her to the curb and she really means that then it's just desperation. I really just can't overstate the importance of being honest with each other, but right now she sounds like she needs that advice more than you. If you can't tell whether her answer to that question is honest, we sure can't. Does she have the idea in her head that it's a failure of hers if her husband has to masturbate for a few months? It's possible you put that idea in her head by complaining about the inadequacy of masturbation as a substitute for the wife's touch. It's possible that you didn't, but she got the idea from somewhere else. Something to clear up with her, I feel. >I was given permission to get a girlfriend so long as she knew about it. I didn't do this as like the other prior times such had come up What's odd to me is that she keeps bringing it up. If you know the option is on the table, and she knows you know, why continue to mention it? What does she think will happen if you don't avail yourself of the option? Has she become insecure, and worried you will leave her? So that's another angle to start asking from, maybe better than the first approach I mentioned.
>>2377 Its not an issue of her response, its whether or not it was handled tactfully. Id rather not ruin what I already have, Im perfectly happy with what I have I just want to make sure that she is as well or at least willing to discuss such with me. Im happily married, Id rather not blow that up because Im an idiot; perfectly reasonable thing to be worried about. Im starting to think that maybe thumbing through a thesaurus and approaching things about compersion and her obsession with watching me get off might be a good avenue. >Polygyny Right. Comes up every now and then. This ranges from light jokes to full on serious discussions. Basically everything most to do with it in whatever aspect whenever it tends to come up. From teasing >"Haha, well you arent allowed to just pick out a new dishwasher with benefits, I get a say." To more thought out serious discussions >"I think the best way to set up a house like that would be have everyone under one rough, that way things are consistent and clear. Having a man hop from house to house isnt fair to the kids or his wives." Its like a weird subject that we keep coming back to, like truecrime nuts constantly wanting to discuss cannibalism; we just end up talking about it fairly often in almost every context and besides discussing ways that it could be done wrong, theres never really a negative connotation. one of our more indepth conversations basically going over how everything would need to be done or structured overall; such as how the kids would need to be brought up, sleeping arrangements, employment, and even how date nights would theoretically work. More recently I was told in a fairly serious manner when the subject came up again >"Well if we do that, I get to choose who they'll be. Okay?" This is a definite part that leads me here but also leaves me to wonder if this is nebulous random discussion or not. We often discuss various odd stuff at length, but not so much or as often as setting up a household where Id have at least two wives or more. >>2382 Dunno, never bothered for her to clarify. Guess I could ask her this time around as it'll likely come up again. >failure of hers No, at least not that Im aware of or by any indication shes given. She tends to view that as something kink based more than anything, like a reward that I should give her every now and then. She seems to get off on watching me, or just knowing that Im doing so. We werent properly able to for 4months, but that doesnt mean that she couldnt do certain things, but there was a definite preference for watching me or at least knowing. That with the girlfriend thing or the long discussions on polygyny it isnt such a leap. >prior times Theyre few and far between, the last time was nearly three years ago during the 4 month stint. The offer is usually infrequent and seems to follow with us either not being able to have sex for whatever reason, stressed, or when she's drunk. >insecure I hope not, Ill have to talk to her about that, moreso about if she believes Id leave. That's more important. Input so far has been good, thanks for the responses.
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>>2384 >"I think the best way to set up a house like that would be have everyone under one rough, that way things are consistent and clear. Having a man hop from house to house isnt fair to the kids or his wives." I agree with your wife, FWIW. >"Well if we do that, I get to choose who they'll be. Okay?" >She seems to get off on watching me, or just knowing that Im doing so >there was a definite preference for watching me or at least knowing Now we're getting somewhere. These are indeed things that point towards your wife having components of the cuckquean fetish; the voyeuristic interest in your pleasure is a big one. Next time the polygyny discussions come up, steer towards bedroom arrangements and explore what her attitude towards sex would be. One big bed? Threesomes can't happen all the time, so would she want to watch? Egg on and encourage you and her co-wife? (A long while ago, we had input from one woman in a polygynous marriage who said the point where she really gelled to the arrangement sexually was when the first wife held her hand and egged her on while she was getting fucked.) Other things you want to discover in the polygyny discussions: >Does she think of polygyny only as a "backup" for when she's out of commission, or as something she'd be happy with in general? >How does she think she'd get along with a co-wife? >You'd be having sex with another woman under her nose. What does she think about that? >One big bedroom or separate bedrooms for each wife? Pros/cons? >How would dating to find a co-wife work? She has to be involved in the selection process, after all... >What's the best number of wives? >Does the first wife in a polygynous marriage ever get "buyer's remorse"? And so on. Move from polygyny in general to specific hypotheticals involving her, keeping the tone light-hearted. Be sure to tell her you think it's cool that she's so relaxed and open about a topic that sends some women into angry rages. Pay attention to where she goes with the discussion and let her feel encouraged to express herself. Many women with this fetish find that people just straight up do not understand, so it's important to show that you're capable of understanding the dynamic from her perspective and that you think it's cool that she thinks about it like she does. Another thing you can do is to explore the sexual dynamic wherein she feels good when you feel good. You say that the thing where she asks to watch you masturbate is >usually infrequent and seems to follow with us either not being able to have sex for whatever reason, stressed, or when she's drunk but have you suggested doing it yourself? Ever done it as foreplay to normal sex? Given yourself a couple of cheeky tugs on your morning wood with a big grin before you get up? You only learn the parameters of something by exploring it.
Went with a light push on the voyeurism and posing hypotheticals as well as claiming that I had a dream where I had a harem of multiple wives of only her. Pretty significant results and some mildly amusing stuff. At this point Im definitely certain she is rather into cuckquean but likely not entirely comfortable with it or the certain aspects as well as worried that I'd somehow be stolen away/be tempted to leave. So, to start with I decided to go over the 'dream'. Which was interesting. She seemed to have a mixed reaction but turned on by it which lead to an interesting conversation. >she suggested that we do roleplay >floated the idea that she could be a hooker or just some girl I picked up at a bar >I offered back that thats too sleazy, offering instead a girlfriend or co-wife scenario >she didnt like the girlfriend suggestion and at first refused to address why co-wife wasnt good >eventually settled on "its too realistic" while her face was red >asked for an explanation and all I got was weak deflections >"Youre too handsome, someone might try to steal you." Im honestly rather average and absolutely nothing special, >"besides, most women out there are nuts." >"where would we all sleep? Itd be awkward." When I offered, jokingly, that I could change my office into a bedroom she kind of sputtered and told me I was mean and went back into other deflections >"well, Im greedy. Id want you more often." Pointed out that that wasnt a no >"well you arent allowed to date, most women are nuts and thats a weird situation." Follow back with a teasing tone that she said she'd pick co-wife, since I apparently wasnt allowed to. Went beet red and then became sexually aggressive Decided at some point to keep prodding about why she said it was too realistic, as if I could just pop out and come home with a second wife. Obviously even getting to a point to even attempt such a situation would probably be a ton of work and lots of screening; even more so since I have children, my state has squatter laws, and more. So this was definitely odd to me and at least seems that indicate that its at least a very real thing to her that I could just have a second wife. >she wouldnt explain the why she said it was too realistic and still refuses to, instead deflecting still or just outright changing the subject No anger, just kind of a general embarrassment and more indications that this is something she seems to have thought about thoroughly From there I decided to push on some of the voyeur/compersion stuff. Continued with the harem dream thing and worked it in as dirty talk about having to watch me use a different her however I wanted. Ill spare the unnecessary details, but did pick up rather big stuff >she's absolutely into the idea of watching me >she's up for watching me have sex, suggesting taping it >floated that she didnt think itd be as good to watch me having sex with her, phrased in such a way to suggest that she wanted to watch me rail a girl that she considers prettier than herself Something like >"Im not that pretty, so it wouldn't be as fun for me to watch." Didnt push on this, but will at a later time. And yes, I did make sure to reassure her about how she looks. Gonna try and get that why. >>2386 >polygyny discussions Definitely going to see, some of the stuff we talked about the other day hit on these but not fully. Another aspect that might be part of the unwillingness to discuss is general views on bisexuality versus wants, dunno. >other things >backup It seems more like the offered excuse would be "backup" but that she's into it, Ill have to find a way to bring this up at some point. Have mentioned that housechores and such would be easier with another wife. >"no, youd just end up with two of us being pregnant and grumbling at you." Told her I wouldnt mind that, which prompted a subject change as her face went red Some of those are pretty tough, Ill likely marry them with what I parsed out and see what she says >likely multiple bedrooms as she's indicated >compersion dynamic Basically was told its now part of my husbandly responsibilities to let her watch me masturbate and that I have to really let her know that I enjoy it lmao
>>2391 Ill see you guys in a week or so, going to see what she'll be willing to open up on. Thanks for all the replies so far
Bit more than a week, sorry. But I do have updates and seem to be making reasonable progress. Otherwise Im honestly having a ton of fun as Ive been pushing all sorts of buttons lately. >polygyny discussion Came up a few times, usually at her prompting and often resulted in her playfully getting "upset" with me or turning red and suddenly deflecting. Discussions are usually less than 30 mins, but this is a step up from occasionally touching on the subject tangentially and saying oddly cq themed things and parachuting out of it or only maintaining a less than 5 mins convo Telling stuff though >"well at least we know that any kids you'd have would be just as cute as ours," >"its not like a second wife would change the outcome, you'll practically only shooting Xs. Do you really want to have twice as many daughters?" Said a didnt mind >"Well that many kids would drive you nuts, besides you really think you could handle more than one woman?" Suggested that I could and that its not as if there arent two spots to sit on. She then demanded that I prove it >"w-well, its not like youd get to go dating or anything, I wont allow it." Rebutted with "because you said you'd get to choose who." She simply turned red became physically demanding. Noticed a bit of correlation that any discussion of either watching me or being involved with some other woman tends to result in her wanting to jump my bones. Dunno if this is because its turning her on or if she's turned on by the idea of having to restake her claim to me. >"Besides, itd be dangerous if you had more than one wife. We'd be constantly pregnant." On discussing in a similar vein as before but also that I like seeing her pregnant >"even if we could find someone its illegal un- well...yeah." Suggested that its only an issue if we tried to process it through the govt, a purely religious situation where we dont engage in common law wouldnt be an issue at all. >"I guess so, besides I get to choose." >"And its not like we could just pop out and pick up a second wife for you. Haha, I-I mean... How would we even do that? Haha, its not there are places where we could go and find someone and say 'h-hey, come by and fuck my husband.'." This was after discussing her voyeuristic interests and I ended up biting myself to stop from saying anything. She was beet red and nervously laughing about it while sounding kind of disappointed. We had been discussing filming me having sex and she kept giving input as if Id not being having sex with her IF we ever filmed stuff. Then finished off with that statement. The cursing in the statement was also a bit of shock, she practically never does at all. >"and regardless, you cant have any one night stands. I wont allow it. So trying to find another wife seems really hard." I know some of you likely will call me stupid for not chasing that, but Im not really looking to change my situation outside of getting her to be more open about her kinks. If it happens, it happens; but honestly its kind of a pandoras box situation. I dont want to ruin what Ive got or hurt her, things are great and I love her. >"anyways its not like Id choose just anybody. Its a rather short list of people I trust because Id need to know that we'd mesh well." In regards to "who" she'd be willing to choose. Again, didnt pursue but will at a later time in regards to the voyeurism. I kind of think this is more of a mental list of single friends that she trusts that she's fantasized about me having sex with or comfortable with the idea of me having sex with. Dont have female friends so its not like I could ask if thats a normal female behavior to tend to fantasize/think about and online hasnt been fully helpful in that area. She has however mentioned that Im the only one she thinks about sexually at all, and outside of childish crushes from decades ago from before she met me, Im the only one she thinks about.
>>2448 Continuing, post is too big >>2386 >polygyny discussion next time Seems to be a general mix of threesomes or watching, while permanent sleeping arrangements being a indeterminate. Suggests being picking up on that Id lose my office or that we'd need a King sized bed. She seems less sure about this than other things, responses vary >Does she think of polygyny only as a "backup" for when she's out of commission, or as something she'd be happy with in general? It seems like "backup" is a bit of an excuse to hide from that she's at least interested in the idea and unsure how Id react. Overall it seems like something she'd love but doesnt want to admit >How does she think she'd get along with a co-wife? See above. Basically she'd want to vet them and be friends with them first, so theres definitely be a bit more thinking on this than even I realized. >You'd be having sex with another woman under her nose. What does she think about that? Outside of the "I want to watch you have sex" vague conversations, not necessarily sure. She seems to get off on the idea of watching me, but whether thats her or someone else she hasnt been specific on. Does seem to be excited at the prospect of me engaging in fetishistic stuff, again phrased in a way that seems to imply a girl who isnt her; anal only apparently being a favorite that drives her insane. >One big bedroom or separate bedrooms for each wife? Pros/cons? Mix, see above >How would dating to find a co-wife work? She has to be involved in the selection process, after all... She hasnt elaborated but has obviously thought/is thinking about it. >What's the best number of wives? Unable to ask, but Ill probably have the "two seats" quote thrown back at me lol >Does the first wife in a polygynous marriage ever get "buyer's remorse"? Openly seems to give off the idea that she'd want someone who she could reasonably be best friends with for the rest of her life, likely as a means of avoiding that Made sure consistently remind her, per her, that she gets to choose co-wife and that she's my favorite wife. Usually met with a mix of things from vaguely positive to teasing back, to even suddenly becoming sexually aggressive with me. >sexual dynamic/compersion As mention before, its apparently now part of my responsibilities to do so. Either as foreplay, as a general show for her, or if I happen to feel like I want to masturbate. Its definitely part of a voyueristic/compersion thing though. She wants to watch in every manner of the term and is far more excited and into it if its clear that Im into and obviously enjoying it. >mechanical wank was somewhat entertaining for her, but not pleasing enough and I got lectured on it >like I was a pornstar phoning it in lmao >loud, crazed, animalistic jacking and she goes nuts just watching me Any questions are welcome as are suggestions, and as before thanks for the input. As for questions I have: >how likely is social dynamics an issue overall for some of you? How did you guys overcome this (assuming co-wife sort of situation)? Personally I think the only thing holding her back on it is fear that Id reject her, our religion, neighbors, and that our extended family might flip out >for those of you who have, how do you deal with neighbors, relatives, kids, etc? >are there any kind of cq themed media that isnt porn to kind of help along a conversation? Personally I dont think she'd be up for watching tlc mormon stuff >for those of you who do have a polygynyist setup, how does that work in terms of jobs, insurance, etc?
>>2449 Sounds to me like your wife's into it, yeah. >"And its not like we could just pop out and pick up a second wife for you. Haha, I-I mean... How would we even do that? Haha, its not there are places where we could go and find someone and say 'h-hey, come by and fuck my husband.'." Good work Anon's wife; I had a gud laff. >how likely is social dynamics an issue overall for some of you? How did you guys overcome this (assuming co-wife sort of situation)? Don't know, never had a co-wife and am not presently contemplating such an arrangement. But I think a good rule of thumb should be that all wives like each other and are good enough friends that they can live together in the same house. >for those of you who have, how do you deal with neighbors, relatives, kids, etc? The usual method with neighbours is to just keep things low-key and only confirm the nature of the relationship if asked directly. Don't hide it (suspicious) but don't go out of your way to point it out either (obnoxious). Relatives? Who knows! At the very least, all sets of parents should know and be OK with the arrangement. Exceptional care should be taken to assure everyone involved that both women are OK with it and nobody's getting exploited. For kids, the only reference point I've seen for handling it is that the women do have limited authority over each others' kids but that the kids should call only their actual mother as mother, and the other women as "aunty <name>". Expect them to be very confused and curious as to why other kids don't have households like theirs, and for them to catch some flak at school etc. But overall the main thing is for them, like any other kids, to have their needs met in an age-appropriate way and to be raised with love in a loving household. All else pales in comparison. >are there any kind of cq themed media that isnt porn to kind of help along a conversation? There are some harem anime where one of the girls actively wants the guy to take multiple wives, and not just as a compromise. There are also a number of cuckqueany and/or multi-wife situations in normal media, but these are not going to be useful for you because they're rarely portrayed as anything other than a curiosity or plot device. I don't think you should be relying on media to drive your conversations anyway. >for those of you who do have a polygynyist setup, how does that work in terms of jobs, insurance, etc? You'll always want to check for anti-bigamy laws in your jurisdiction. As for tax, insurance, and so on, you'd have to consult knowledgeable specialists. I'd expect that tax and insurances wouldn't accept any more than one wife as a dependant, so one wife would have to be the "civilly registered" wife and the other(s) interacting with the system as individuals. That said, I've also heard of some jurisdictions with common law marriage recognising mistresses as legitimate partners for the purpose of asset disbursement upon break-up of the relationship, so you'd want to consult lawyers etc. about recognising that with cohab agreements or whatever else holds in your jurisdiction. As for finances, you could do pooled income or split expenses or something else. The important thing is that everyone agrees on and likes the arrangement. Again, I'm not really the authority here, but if you were treating this as marriage you'll want to plan properly for the costs of children from each of the wives.
Shes definitely into it Ended up having a rather serious conversation finally with a totally different tone than usual. It was actually pretty illuminating. >almost all of her unwillingess to engage in it beyond a fantasy is due to practicality issues >what would we tell the kids >how would our parents react >we obviously would have issues with going to church >hilariously most of what I mentioned here like insurance which actually freaked me out for a moment Dunno, are you on here hun? Lmao >her personal preference for even considering someone would be someone with similar mores and religious views as us, someone she knows and is good friends with, and someone that both of us would consider attractive >I suspect some of her "attractiveness" requirement is more of a compersion thing or possibly a bisexuality thing >again that dating would be a mess and isnt ideal nowadays >that she doesnt know anyone that she has a good relationship to consider for it; and that of who she knows well enough to have considered, they arent available or would be able to for whatever reason This actually surprised me, I kind of figured she had thought about various things but the way she phrased it made it sound as if she had thought about me railing her friends at length. I kind if figured when I began to think she was into cq, but to hear her more or less say it out loud was rather surprising. Still wont explicitly say such though. >sleeping all in one bed would okay, having sex all together would likely be a 'mood' thing and she'd more likely want me to bounce between their rooms with me not having one >general insecurities; that I might try to run off with second wife (we actually know someone who basically did this, but not cq stuff), that I dont find her attractive, or that second wife would steal me somehow >weird insecurities; that second wife would be a better cook, that the kids would like second wife more, or that itd turn into a collectathon Then there was some of the other stuff that had come up that makes me think shes likely planning something. >"Oh no, [third cousin with no blood relation], lost her job and will probably have to move. Do you think we could something? Maybe she could move in?" We live five states away in a worse economy, in a rural area. >"what do you think about older women?" She already knows what I think, its part of why she constantly teases me about being a few months older than me >"well if the gene therapy stuff does sterilize everyone, do you think you'd be okay with being a breeding stud?" This came out of no where and I ended up spitting my coffee all over, again something she usually doesnt discuss or even joke about at all >>2481 Figured Id ask in case anyone popping into the thread had such a setup. Thanks for the input. Kind if figured for most of it, but wanted to know from someone with firsthand experience. >if anyone is lurking and does have such a setup, please throw in your two cents
>>2449 Reading this thread, I was thinking "Okay she can't have vaginal sex, but instead of suggesting her other 2 holes, she goes straight to suggesting another woman? Is she against anal?" But >anal only apparently being a favorite that drives her insane. I know you realized her cuckquean fetish by now but that was an early telltale sign.
>>2564 >anal only apparently being a favorite that drives her insane. >I know you realized her cuckquean fetish by now but that was an early telltale sign. Is that a big cuckquean thing?
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>>2565 There's a higher-than-baseline number of anal-only enthusiasts among cuckqueans, but my feeling is that the anal-only is linked more strongly to the submissive underpinnings many cuckqueans also share. I definitely wouldn't treat anal-only as a sure sign of a latent cuckquean fetish, in any case.
>>2564 Technically could but the issue is from orgasming and, if I remember correctly, a protein in cum that would kick off labor. So basically only oral would be an option. >should have been more clear, my mistake Anal-Only as in for the implied other girl. Not that she isnt okay with butt stuff herself, but the general conversation about having a co-wife she seemed overly excited about getting to watch such. Not sure why though, will have to try and ask >a control thing? >Domsub situation between the two of them on top of the cq elements? >because its something Im nuts for? Still slowly making headway >>2565 Sometimes, but not an absolutely.
I recently found out that my fiancée is a quean after I was falsely accused from a third party that I was cheating. At the beginning I thought she was baiting me into admitting guilt but right now I am rather convinced she gets off to the prospect of me fucking other girls. How do you think I should handle this?
>>2676 Can you provide more information? Like why you believe she gets off to the idea, etc.
>>2677 Welp the "evidence" for the accusation against me was a deepfake video some anon circulated on my social circle. She used that both as fap and foreplay material.
>>2577 Update Still only her as far as things go for living arrangements. Things are going okay overall as things progress, though >Teases me more often about there being an other, older woman that I'm hypothetically involved with No such woman exists, the practical problems involved and established relationship issue being a thing >These range from slight ribbing to explicit and a rather large range if situations; from sitting on the couch and folding laundry to sexual situations >"Is your grey-haired girlfriend at work going to like your new cologne?" >"Would she beg nicely for your cum? How badly would she need it? Could she even keep up with you?" This is likely a two part thing of feeling less threatened by a woman who's older and therefore less able to necessarily steal me away with their looks, as well as that I have a slight interest in older women >Has declaratively stated that this will likely be the last baby that she'll have while also stating that *I* would be having more children in the future >Usually these statements aren't too far apart in terms of time and context of a conversation Not sure if this is brain fog and tiredness or her implying she'd rather have me knock up a second or more wife in the future Upon discussing possible issues that may be a problem in the future in regards to reckless medical people and the possible need for "clean" sperm >I'm forbidden from selling my baby batter >I'll be allowed to give it away, but only if the woman is single and she likes her >Not allowed to have a harem, but one or two other women living with us that she can be friends with would be great Think I'll continue to work on slowly finding more neutral or at least not super explicit cq material to go over with her and try and help with fostering her interest in this
>>2724 Sounds to my ears like she already has an interest very well-fostered. I assume you’re teasing her right back when she gets saucy and hypothetical? If not, try it. Jokingly enter into the world she builds. For example, you might point out that she’d have to hear you donate sperm to her new living companions, but you’d be okay with her watching to make sure it got done properly, and you appreciate her helping to screen all the eager applicants. Your work squeeze not only begs nicely for your cum, but refers to it as an elixir of life. Oh, and had you mentioned there were two work squeezes now? And so on. If and when you manage to get her blushy and flustered with this, give her a nice affectionate groping before taking the pressure off. Sounds to me like she’s having fun with it, which is a great way to take this fetish.
Update: Perfectly healthy, if not small, baby and slowly having to adapt to intermittent sleep schedule. >blatant Cq type comments have kind of tapered off >Wether this is because she can have at me again without fear of preterm labor or because relatives are over currently, idk Though she does still continue in the odd "I'm done having kids," and "well, your other wife can try for a boy." As well other implicative statements that we'll keep having children in the future, just through a second wife >Teasing me about older women seems to have doubled Though with less of a sexual hint to it, likely either because we can have sex now or because relatives are about >Still plays off as if said theoretical woman is somehow seduced me into being a submissive boytoy though Going to try and chase that down, if anything it seems like a fantasy that she likely engages in and thinks on pretty often >Acts oddly around women if they seem to respond or show genuine positive attention to me Not just older women, basically any woman, and it's definitely not jealousy. One of the last times a waitress was overly touchy and too personal with me resulted in a rather needy wife once we got home. Personally I think shes likely fantasizing about various things due to these interactions >Mentions various female relatives on occasion as if to imply that's an avenue Her second cousin by marriage on her side apparently suddenly needs a house after being evicted from their rental, she's 26 and deeply religious. >These come up occasionally, usually try to brush it off or ignore it >Mostly due to the fact that most of these relations are so far out she's never even met them >Inviting a 26 y/o strange woman into the house who's deeply Into seventh day Adventism who she's never met >No thanks Have considered rehashing the argument of >If we did this you'd have help around the house, a friend to hangout with, etc etc etc Though totally unsure of how to proceed if she's more receptive on acting on it, honestly can't offer anything in terms of how meeting people is basically impossible and those that we probably could, we wouldn't want anywhere near our kids >>2725 Definitely, though not necessarily on that level yet but I'll go for it
>>2884 Will you eventually take the plunge and tease her about imagining you with other girls? Sounds to me like she'd probably enjoy knowing you knew and didn't mind her feeling that way, even if you don't act on it. There's no need to take everything at once and make sure it's all perfect right to the end as long as you don't overstep, you know? Being all squirmy while one's man affectionately teases one about one's dirty thoughts can be lots of fun on its own.
>>2896 Gonna go for it. Got a moderately humorous setup for it and it'll be fun overall. Wish we luck guys >Went on a teasing about at work old ladies >She insists jokingly that my being used by them is somehow a general benefit and a good thing >"Well what would you get out of it?" >"Well they could pay with full sized chocolate bars," >Refuses to elaborate on if she's getting anything else out of it So I've bought a bunch of full sized bars, let's see how this turns out.
>>2896 >Being all squirmy while one's man affectionately teases one about one's dirty thoughts can be lots of fun on its own. This. I would assume that for most women cuckquean is a fetish, not a lifestyle. There are definitely women who are turned on by the idea of getting cucked but they do not want to actually get cucked by their partner, in the same way that a good chunk of those people out there who are into incest don't want to fuck their actual families. Ideas are hot, even if they never lead to actions. If it does lead to more someday, then that's great, but if not then you have a fun new way to flirt with her which is also great.
>>2929 Make sure to take a piece as “your cut” and make lots of low sensual moans as you slowly savour it in front of her.
>>2930 >for most women cuckquean is a fetish, not a lifestyle Very true, and I'm glad you pointed it out. It's completely fine to keep all this in the realm of fantasy, if someone doesn't want to make it happen for real. Pressure ain't sexy unless it's of a different sort, knamean?
How do I get a cuckquean gf? Do I try to get a regular gf and then convince her to do cuckquean stuff or are there any specific search terms on dating apps?
>>2956 Why do you want a cuckquean gf?
>>2957 I don't think I would be happy in a normal relationship. It just never made any sense to me to be just with one girl forever until I die (or we get divorced). When I was in school there was a girl who (I think) was into me; she was a petite brunette, a little bit shy (I was shy too at the time so I never asked her out), nerdy type, she played MMORPGs and had acne and was really cute overall. When I was imagining her being my gf I would then try to imagine having sex with her, but my mind would always wander off to thoughts any of the "hotter" blonde, more popular girls in class coming on to me and flirting with me, stealing me away from her (because they could) in front of her. These fantasies would then often evolve into all kinds of more elaborate cuckqueaning scenarios. This was also before I knew cuckqueaning was a thing. So whenever I tried to fap to that nerdy girl by itself it didn't do anything for me and whenever I fapped to the hot Stacy / cheerleader types it didn't do anything for me either. It seems I need the combination of both. A relationship like that would never become boring because I imagine me and my cuckquean gf would always be on the lookout for hot new girls that I could fuck.
>>2970 Then you’ll be disappointed to hear that a man looking for a cuckquean straight off is a huge red flag and turnoff to most cuckqueans and indeed most women. Many cuckqueans only discover their own tendencies after they’re secure and happy in a monogamous relationship. Still, if you won’t be happy in a relationship with one woman, you should be completely open about this; even though I have the fetish, I know I would feel terribly betrayed (not in any good way) if I shacked up with someone who it turned out was aiming to cuck me all along. Just don’t try to create a cuckquean; that’s a messy recipe for abusive disaster.
>>2973 So you are saying straight up looking for a cuckquean is a turnoff, and also that I shouldn't tell her that I want to cuck her after I've been with her for a while, but I should still be open about wanting to do cuckquean stuff with her? How do I do that at the same time? Are you saying that it will be virtually impossible for me to find a cute cuckquean gf? Aside maybe from the off chance that I find a girl who then somehow stumbles into wanting to do it all on her own accord
I've always wanted a large family. This has given birth heh to an impregnation fetish. Horny brain has done math and has come to the realization that it needs more wombs for its goal and the sanity of my future/fantasy wife, but I also believe that siblings should more related than same dad/random mothers. This has caused the impregnation fetish to evolve into an impregnation oyakodon fetish. Now, I'm not asking "how 2 fugg gfs mom?" because I know damn well it's not going to happen. But I'm curious how /cuckquean/ would feel about your husband being with you as well as your mother/sister, or the idea of raising your children alongside your nieces/nephews/siblings who are also their siblings? Does adding your family to the equation better or worse than some vixen? I swear this isn't some weird incest thing on my end, it's only when the girls are related that makes it hot.
>>2974 Just setting expectations. You can still search in spite of this; I’m saying that searching for a partner on the basis of a single rare fetish is bound to be troublesome no matter what, and that given the choice between being truthful about your intentions or lying about them, you should be honest because lying about this sort of thing is a) wrong, and b) likely to blow up in everyone’s face very messily.
>>2931 Got called a butthead and if I didn't stock she would "punish" me lmao Not much for update for now, likely won't make any headway for awhile due to her being pent up. I'll keep you guys apprized
Does anyone know where to find INGTLD’s new content? She was a very popular cuckquean/cuckold blogger on tumblr that went to bdsmlr and disappeared. She does have a gif profile on redgifs where you could see she does have recent uploads but no information on where shes posting them?
>>3002 They’re no longer on topic for this board since switching entirely to a focus on interracial + male cuckoldry. Try a cuckold-focused board instead of /cuckquean/.
>>3002 I don't know about the new content. Maybe it's just as well if it's more cuckold-oriented now - and browsing through the redgifs profile you mentioned, it does seem to be mostly BLACKED crap now. But there's an archive of older stuff here: https://ingtld-archive.bdsmlr.com/ As far as I know they never said whether they were a guy or a girl, or what race they were for that matter. I am a little confused about what sort of person would seemingly enjoy both BLACKED and COLONIZED porn, and both cuckold and cuckquean porn.
Well the stuff archived or the most viewed posts were the “BLACKED” posts but yes its true they never said they were female. They very well could be a guy, its just the posts that I saw coming out from them they always put more “effort” in cuckquean posts and I thought they could be female~
>>3004 >what sort of person would seemingly enjoy both BLACKED and COLONIZED porn, and both cuckold and cuckquean porn. Someone with a subversion and general racemixing fetish.
>>3004 >a little confused about what sort of person would seemingly enjoy Someone who has to repress deep intimate feelings. Someone who has never had or is disconnected from real (meaningful) relationships in their life.
>>3004 >what sort of person would I think it's a matter of being into the power dynamics of it. Sort of like appreciating maledom and femdom, as long as someone's getting dommed. I can relate to it, to some degree, even if I don't appreciate the same things. As someone who probably knew them better than most online, I can say that they were definitely more personally to the bleached side of things, being very pro-white. It was a bit of a contradiction, obviously, but they seemed to view the blacked stuff as pro-white in a circular fashion, since the consumers of it were white. At least I think, it's been awhile. Yeah, they never made their sex or race known. Even after talking one on one for a long time. My impression is that they were a hapa and a female, but I can't back that up by any real evidence. As you might expect from refusal to divulge any information like that, kind of closed off in a lot of ways.
>>3016 >they seemed to view the blacked stuff as pro-white We saw that their schtick was subversion via gentle pace-and-lead-style hypnotic persuasion, so one might take the idea that they sincerely believed this with a big pinch of salt. When someone who gets their kicks from duper’s delight tells you that their interracial encouragement propaganda is all ackshually pro-white, it’s sensible to think about whether you’re just another mark to them, truthfully. What other things did they enjoy people believing?
>>3019 I mean I don't think they stated it like that exactly, I'm paraphrasing. Bear in mind, it's been awhile. But most of what they said, unrelated to their content, seemed pretty far removed from what you'd expect of someone making all the blacked stuff. Like I said, they were a bit weird and contradictory. They also seemed to have active contempt for much of the cuckolds and associated fetishists, but also seemed to actively court their attention by tailoring content to them. Keep in mind, also, that this was awhile ago, and they were making much less of the blacked stuff, but still a lot of cuckold stuff. We had something of a falling out a few months before tumblr banned pornography and the platform went to shit anyways. Interestingly, it was because of some jokes I made that they interpreted as being somehow disparaging of white culture and therefore felt that I was part of the problem of contributing to anti-white sentiment in society. Or something like that. Again, been a few years here.
>>2994 Finally back and with a modest update >Teasing has resumed, albeit not explicitly >Apparently any mentioning of things needs a "softer" touch >still isn't fully comfortable with the idea of explicitly stating that she wants to watch or know that I'm having sex with another girl, as if saying it might make it real Saying explicitly that I fucked some mystery girl and that she loved it is a no-no, but showing up with candy bars and implying that I may have been an especially cheap himbo for it is okay >Occasionally still tease about polygyny >Most of these teasing tends to play into foreplay and has become fairly standard >Some of her reaction seems to be a mix between compersion, humiliation, jealousy, and a touch of after the fact voyeurism So far this has been great and has seemingly improved our sexlife and gotten her to open up a bit about things, Thanks for the input guys
>>3015 It's probably Not That Deep and they just enjoy power dynamics, racial taboo, and cheating / forbidden fruit in general. It's probably easier to be that way if one doesn't need to have a self-insert angle on every fantasy. >>3029 Nice, thanks for the update. I'm not the board owner but personally I think it's great if we can help someone have a better time incorporating the fantasy even if they never do any real cuckqueaning.
>>3029 >So far this has been great and has seemingly improved our sexlife and gotten her to open up a bit about things That’s super-cute! You should invite her here if you ever decide to come clean about asking for advice from us. >>3030 >I think it's great if we can help someone have a better time incorporating the fantasy even if they never do any real cuckqueaning. Fully agree. OP’s wife is probably happier for having her fetishises accepted and played with on her own terms. I think it’s lovely.
>>3029 Well, I'm back again. Polygyny only comes up occasionally and now she's asserting a bit of a more "jealous" take on things, so some of the teasing is fairly rarer. I don't particularly mind, the particular possessiveness isn't bad at all, but that's not why I'm back. Current events in her "cousin's" (not actually her cousin, but calls her such anyways) life have thrown things into a bit of a mix. Her "cousin's" relationship ended on a bad note and apparently is making plans on just getting away for aehile. As such, I was informed her "cousin" would visit sometime in October. Then the inconsistencies started. >"She'll only be visiting for a day or so," Turned to >"A couple of days," To >"Just over a week," And now more recently >"Just a couple or weeks or so," Allegedly the plan is for her to come out and visit during a local thing as part of a 'road trip', but that only lasts three days and I'm getting wierd vibes that it's far more likely that the plan is >Pack up and sell/store her stuff >Visit some of her actually relatives >Then de facto move in and just end up staying >Meanwhile Wife is talking her into things I think I'm being setup to be entirely honest. Not that I mind particularly, but it'd be nice to be properly included... But then again she might be concerned that I'd run off at the first sign of things. Dunno. I'll keep you guys posted. >>3034 I dunno... Maybe? She definitely wouldn't be a fan of the porn here... >>3030 About that... lmao
>>3175 To be honest I'd like to find out that I'm just being stupid and anxious and just reading too much into things. But a lot of things involved with this when thinking on it is very very weird... I'm not crazy, right? The only alternative is, is that my wife has secretly arranged for her to live with us a nanny but... Idk >Has her own house >Has her own job I'm not crazy for catching the 'vacation' timetable and realizing that you can't really take several weeks off at a normal job while maintaining it >Timetable also doesn't make sense even further Who goes on a roadtrip in October? Unless she's liquidating assets and selling her house in the meantime... >Aside from the stupid local thing, has no reason to come out here or stay for several weeks I'll be honest, my state blows and is a crime riddled shit hole. Literally nothing of value out here >Wife has know her "cousin" longer than we've been married They get along amazingly well and she knows that she'd be trustworthy around our kids... >"Cousin" is older than us at 36 >"Cousin" is childless and unhappy about it >"Cousin" shares religious and racial background, as well as general mores >She is admittedly attractive, wife has even remarked such >In practically everything she meets all of the criteria my wife requires Admittedly I'd like for it all to just me reading too much into things. As I've said before, it's a Pandora's box. Thinking something is hot and actually doing it are different things, I'd rather have a happy and boring marriage; but I can't help but feel she's trying to arrange something. Dunno. Going to try and find out without necessarily verging into cuckquean stuff in case I'm just being retarded and she's just being overly generous with our guest room.
>>3177 Update time Had a general conversation with Wife about her "cousin". Not entirely sure what to think. >Didn't mention my suspicions >Just general dialogue on "hey, why does the time table keep moving? Is she moving in...?" >"What about her job?" >"Her house?" >Responses were quite noncommittal and fairly unsure >Don't know if this is because "cousin" is effectively imploding her current life as some women do after a bad relationship Or >Going to move in Or >Wife is just trying to be accommodating and understanding >None of it gives me any kind of confidence that she isn't planning something >Just acknowledge that I'm fine with being accommodating for her "cousin" because of everything involved >I honestly feel for the woman and wouldn't mind helping >But the idea of actually pursuing a Cq situation makes me incredibly anxious >Not in a "I can't do this" way, but "this would be irreparable if it goes bad" Biggest folding came when mentioning her house and why I suspect she isn't being entirely truthful. While it's not impossible to have several months mortgage payments set aside, who does that and roadtrips in October?
>>3193 I think you're reading into this too much, and that you're able to do this reveals the presence of a big communication void in your marriage.
>>3194 Possibly. The only void I'm really encountering is about the specifics for this though, we routinely spend at least two hours a day talking about everything. The only other alternative besides what I'm figuring is that "cousin"'s issues are significantly more serious and she doesn't want to discuss it or feels it'd be improper as it's someone else's business. >Did get general information and it wasn't good at all >If it's worse than what I was initially told, It'd make more sense >"Cousin" isn't at fault at all >Also would explain the sudden liquidation of her previous life and all
If you're really women then prove it. Take a photo holding a note with the date written on it and obscure your face of course. Just one will do, and then you can show that every time someone claims this board is full of men. Or don't.
>>3200 lol. lmao. The problem with you’re having right now is that you don’t understood that when someone claims this board is full of men (hallelujah!) we don’t care because we already know what we are. There’s nothing for you here.
>>3195 Being set up for cuckquean stuff and unrelated life/financial reasons aren't mutex, but to me it kinda sounds like the non-cuckquean considerations are driving this. >The only void I'm really encountering is about the specifics for this though, we routinely spend at least two hours a day talking about everything. The only other alternative besides what I'm figuring is that "cousin"'s issues are significantly more serious and she doesn't want to discuss it or feels it'd be improper as it's someone else's business. Well hopefully it's not that, because if she's moving in with you, then it's become your business to a large degree. Also, I guess not everyone subscribes to this philosophy, but I don't feel a married couple should keep secrets or mislead each other about what they know, even if it's unflattering to some third party. Note that legally speaking there is probably a threshold for amount of time before someone lives with you and has tenancy rights, and a month may exceed that time. Shouldn't matter unless things go really sour between y'all, I guess.
>>3201 >we already know what we are Men.
>>3200 I seem to recall that we did this on the old 8ch board and it didn't do any good. That said, I note that the thread you're currently shitting up is the "male advice containment" thread which one imagines contains at least one male, the OP. So we're not all women here in this thread. Is that enough of a victory for you to fuck off feeling good about yourself?
>>3203 cope
Didn't know where to post this, so I'll use this thread. Remember to satisfy your man or else you'll be cucked by a doll.
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>>3260 To be honest, that woman kind of deserved it. I know she might have not felt in the mood but her husband had very high libido so she should have done something about it to solve it. This is just general advice to women, if you give the man you are in relations with sex, he will stay with you and be loyal to you. provided he is worth keeping his male logic will go something like this >why would I go fuck that one woman over there if my gf/wife does everything i need her too. forgot to mention I was the vixen/bull who cucked that stupid lesbian bitch with the horsecock It's even better if the man you're with has very specific fetishes. The boyfriend I had in high school really loved feet and we had a really solid relationship that was based on love, mutual trust, my feet, and working on homework together. Speaking of that, I actually reached out to his wife and him. They're okay with me having a 3some with them and I'm going to go meet them across a couple of states when this semester of college ends. I've already set up a couple of pedicure appointments and use skin softening lotion daily. If his wife turns her nose up at the notion of giving her husband a footjob or anything else like that she's getting cucked hard and she's gonna love (^: Sorry about blog posting about my sex life but I thought I'd share it with /cuckquean/. 3somes aren't technically /cuckquean/ material but I thought some of you'd want to know.
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>>3260 >cucked by a doll What a situation. I know the simple surface answer is that she brought it on herself, but in truth one's sex drive isn't under conscious control and sometimes it can be fragile. Poor woman. >>3298 >his male logic will go something like this >why would I go fuck that one woman over there if my gf/wife does everything i need her too. I think maybe we understand men differently. Where do you think you are? >3somes aren't technically /cuckquean/ material It's all in the context. If we were being strict, what'd determine whether it's cuckqueaning is the wife's attitude and experience as well as what she gets out of it.
>>3260 Gosh, anon, this is the male advice thread, by which we mean giving advice to males. >>3299 Source on those 3 comic pages? "Maid & Master" is proving expectedly difficult to search.
>>3301 So that we don't derail this thread with eromanga discussion, I've responded in the eromanga thread at >>3303 and >>3304 instead.
>>3298 >feet fetish Now that's a fetish I don't understand and it seems quite popular. Even some famous personalities have it, like Quentin Tarantino, I think every single one of his movies have at least one close up to an actress feet. I guess people don't know how one's feet may look after years wearing heels… I take good care of mine but I would be very shy to show them off. >Sorry about blog posting I think this thread is a bit like an open bar, for some queanies to vent off and other to RP as males. So I don't mind a blog posting. Besides, seeing a vixen point of view is quite interesting. A Christmas cake like myself can only dream for a role role reversal but I'm happy with sloppy seconds.
>>3298 >spoiler Hello again Anon, I remember you. Sounds like you already know the territory, and know how to feel out a good pace, no pun intended. >Sorry about blog posting about my sex life but I thought I'd share it with /cuckquean/. 3somes aren't technically /cuckquean/ material but I thought some of you'd want to know. Some threesomes are certainly cuckqueaning, though others aren’t. I look at whether the quean-candidate is getting her pleasure from. If she’s getting her kick out of getting licked by the other F in the FFM or otherwise doing it directly for herself then it’s probably not cuckqueaning. If she’s in it so she can be right in the thick of her man going to town on the other F then it’s probably cuckqueaning. If you did want to go into more of your Adventures in Vixenhood, I guess the place to do so would be in the Actual Cuckqueaning thread over at >>1465
Without any other cuckquean context, I just think it's kind of sweet that >>3298 is putting in the effort to make sure she'll be a good lay and able to best satisfy one of her partner's fetishes when threesome time comes around.
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Webring's slow. I'm bored and morbidly curious: Which would you pick? (Based on body alone, not the characters/personalities portrayed) Spoilered for artistic male nudes.
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>>3329 >Based on body alone Don't make it hard, the face is the most important part. To answer your question, it's Michelangelo's David (since there are two Davids). But I want to judge them as a whole, so I'll give a longer explanation ignoring your unfair constraint. >Farnese Hercules The beard gives me dad vibes I don't feel comfortable with. Not saying beards are bad, just that I rather go with clean shaved or stubble and even stubble beard is hit or miss, it can make a man look sexy or unemployed. His muscular body would make feel secure from others but vulnerable to him, this is the kind of thing I rather see than have. >Michelangelo's David Best one in my opinion. Stoic face and swimmer body, pure aesthetics. >Donatello's David A bit too effeminate, I know some girl that love this form so it's up to the person, I guess. You asked our opinions about statues and didn't even mentioned Apollo? Shame on you!
>>3306 I've heard that, similar to how feet fetishism is mostly just a male fetish, hand fetishism is mostly a female fetish, to the point where the first thing a lot of girls notice about a guy the moment he enters a room are his hands.
>>3331 That's interesting. I always check if a guy has well trimmed fingernails but I don't think this is fetish related (not consciously, at least) but plain personal hygiene. Besides, dudes with long nails are really weird. Long hair? Ok. Tight clothes? Well… sometimes. Long fingernails? NO!
>>3329 >Heracles Big dad energy, looks like he’s crack a cold one after mucking out the Augean stables. >David, Michelangelo edition Kinda has it all, like him the most. >David by Donatello™️ Looks like he’d want to share my man too, don’t know what to tell you, this is a femboy and the model was probably a dancer or something. >>3330 >Apollo He’s alright, but that face under the anime hairdo on a Greek statue cracks me up ngl >>3331 Only girls with foot fetishes I’ve ever heard of are lesbians liking other girls feet but it’s not like I went out of my way to look
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>>3330 >>3334 Interesting, interesting. Thank you for your feedback. >Apollo I debated including a statue of Cupid or Ganymede.
>>3335 >Cupid What?! Oh lord! Shotacons are just men inserting themselves as the boy being molested. And then there's this caricature of women lusting for boys like the comic you posted. It's funny in this context and fine for comedic purposes but sickening everywhere else. Specially because women can get away with doing despicable acts that would make a man jailed for life. Don't get me started when some people see a boy being molested by a woman and then they say "Niceee". Pardon my small outburst. Changing subjects, what are your intentions with this small data sample? It's not enough to have any conclusion because this is a very niche forum. Have your tried doing this on Insta or FB?
>>3336 Though I somewhat understand your outburst, weren't a lot of /ss/ artists women?
>>3337 >weren't a lot of /ss/ artists women? Why would I know artists from a porn genre I have no interest? If I was too hard about it, it wasn't my intention. Let me clarify my point. Drawings, 3D graphics or just plain textual descriptions of fictional characters and stories are fine. Assuming they didn't involve real children in the process by, you know, exploiting them. I've seen videos of great artists drawing amazing characters and landscapes from their mind, so it's not far-fetched that many artists can draw children from adult references and come up with manga about shota or loli. I'm no position to kink shame others. I get off by seeing my partner having sex with another woman and being degraded in the process. So I'm sorry if I offended someone.
>>3338 >worrying about offending others truly a cuck
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>>3336 > intentions Just idle curiosity. Nothing so grandiose as data collection. That said, given that cuckqueaning (sometimes, somewhat, depending on the type of quean, etc.) can contain an element of "My Man is high status enough that other women want to fuck him" I do wonder if there's a thread of commonality in /cuckquean/'s preferences. > /ss/ I was joking. Although on an 8chan legacy board I guess you can never be sure... (I never, ever browsed /hebe/ - but that was all guys, right?) And I hear you on a certain type of evil woman getting away with certain crimes. Each sex has its own black sins. If it makes you feel better the running joke in those comics is that the drow always ends up in prison. Images spoilered for being pretty offtopic.
>>3204 > and it didn't do any good. Elaborate. Also please advice needed. How do I tell my Black gf that I'm a White supremacist neonazi? I suspect that she already suspects since she asks to call her my "slave" and slurs during sex, asks me to "breed" her (and White girls therefore the board choice) but if she KNOWS I do not want her to think that I love her less, find her less attractive or respect her less as a person because of it. I know I could mask it off as a kink but she is my significant half and I'd rather come clean and perfectly honest with it.
>>3342 >How do I tell my Black gf that I'm a White supremacist neonazi? >I'd rather come clean and perfectly honest with it. “<name of black gf>, I am a White supremacist neo-nazi.” Make sure you include the hyphen; verbal punctuation is important.
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>>3306 >I guess people don't know how one's feet may look after years wearing heels… I take good care of mine but I would be very shy to show them off. Some people fetishize heels, but it is true that one good way to take care of one's feet is to... not wear heels. It's remarkable how much some women insist on it; I know how it makes the legs and butt look, but god, at what cost? Let me tell you, no-one told me it was sexy that time I sprained my ankle wearing them. >>3318 >Without any other cuckquean context, I just think it's kind of sweet that >>3298 is putting in the effort to make sure she'll be a good lay and able to best satisfy one of her partner's fetishes when threesome time comes around. Caring is sexy! >>3329 Michelangelo's David > Donatello's David >> Farnese Herakles. Not because of the face; I'm just not into the femboy beestings or the spare tire. Since we're doing this in the male advice thread for some reason, I guess I should acknowledge that this isn't really a fair standard to hold men to; men past 26 or so will have some gut unless they're doing some really bullshit unhealthy cut diet for actors. Same for women. >>3331 >I've heard that, similar to how feet fetishism is mostly just a male fetish, hand fetishism is mostly a female fetish, to the point where the first thing a lot of girls notice about a guy the moment he enters a room are his hands. I'm sure it's sex-skewed, but I don't think it's skewed as much as women liking hands. I can count the men I've heard say they like hands on one of them, while I've definitely met women who liked feet. However, it's female feet that always seem to be fetishized; the only persons I've met who like to even look at male feet were 100% homosexual men. I think this is an artifact of it just being easier to take care of a woman's feet; the sexes have different skin, and while women might wear heels they are less often doing heavy outdoor work in work boots. Being female isn't the only thing. It also helps to take care of your feet. Lotion, moisturizer in your soap and hand sanitizers, filing off dead skin and calluses and not wearing shoes that give you calluses. Wearing soft socks or houseshoes instead of going barefoot indoors helps. And sadly some of it is just genetic luck. Some women have rougher hands and feet, and there's a racial component to skin, with East Asian, Pacific Islander, and Native American girls having by noticeably softer hands and feet. Truly, feet are the hands of the legs. Don't walk around doing handstands like a circus performer if you want to give handjobs. Unless your partner has a clown kink. I guess there is also that it's much easier and seemingly more pleasurable to give a footjob than to... do the equivalent involving a vulva? This act is rare enough I'm not sure there is a name for it. But one can certainly rub and kiss the foot if that makes one happy. >>3336 >Shotacons are just men inserting themselves as the boy being molested. And then there's this caricature of women lusting for boys like the comic you posted. It's funny in this context and fine for comedic purposes but sickening everywhere else. Specially because women can get away with doing despicable acts that would make a man jailed for life. I think recurring examples of the latter - boys getting molested by their female teachers - disproves the former. Apart from that, I've definitely met some women into the drawn stuff. >>3342 >Also please advice needed. How do I tell my Black gf that I'm a White supremacist neonazi? I suspect that she already suspects since she asks to call her my "slave" and slurs during sex, asks me to "breed" her (and White girls therefore the board choice) but if she KNOWS I do not want her to think that I love her less, find her less attractive or respect her less as a person because of it. I know I could mask it off as a kink but she is my significant half and I'd rather come clean and perfectly honest with it. > white supremacist > capitalizing "black" > not viewing a black as inferior uh-huh.
>>3345 > the spare tire But... but... but those are his (astonishingly well developed) obliques. That depiction of Hercules has like 0% body fat. I think you can see his serratus muscles.
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>>3345 >Truly, feet are the hands of the legs. At last I truly see.
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>Vixen likes to degrade and humiliate my GF verbally >GF says it's okay. To me, it feels like bullying. > I feel uneasy when it happens. How do I stop feeling so overprotective?
>>3547 Depends. How strong degradation and humiliation are we talking, here? Did the vixen kinda feel it out or immediately went full on with it? Is your GF just “okay” with being bullied like that, or does she actually like it? Are you mainly uneasy out of concern that your gf is being hurt, or because you feel that if anyone’s going to bully her it should be you?
>>3548 >How strong degradation and humiliation are we talking, here? Mostly comments about stealing me or being a better woman. It's mostly in character, but it still feels wrong to me. >Did the vixen kinda feel it out or immediately went full on with it? she progressively upped the ante, at first, there weren't any comments because as a group we were new to this. >Is your GF just “okay” with being bullied like that, or does she actually like it? She says it's part of the fetish, she says she gets off to it but it still makes me worry. >Are you mainly uneasy out of concern that your gf is being hurt, or because you feel that if anyone’s going to bully her it should be you? It's my concern for her, personally, I can't see the comments as anything other than mental self-harm.
>>3551 >She says it's part of the fetish, she says she gets off to it but it still makes me worry. Sounds like she has told you it's ok, but you don't believe her. Why are you worried? do you think she wasn't truthful with you, do you have evidence to suggest she isn't actually ok with it? If not, and you can put it from your mind, I'd recommend not saying anything. Instead, I would suggest you make doubly sure to engage in quality aftercare. Words of concern are nice for sure, but showing her you care about her through aftercare is a key step to avoiding hurt feelings. If it's really tearing you up to the point where it's impacting you, then you should probably talk to your GF again and tell her that you're worried. If you don't already have one, a safe word may be in order. If she was really upset by what was happening, she could use it to stop what's going on. If all that still doesn't calm your mind, then it sounds like a problem you're having rather than one she is having. That's ok, but that definitely means you need to talk to your GF and figure out a path forward together. This vixen may also just not be for you, or maybe you cant engage in this fetish right now. It maybe be as simple as having a talk with the vixen and letting her know you aren't comfortable with the degree of humiliation going on. Just be honest with yourself, be open with your GF, and things should work out fine.
>>3551 Cuckqueaning's something that should be enjoyable for everyone, so if you're there all torn up inside while your dick's in the vixen then that needs fixing. Everyone assumes that cuckqueaning's something a man will enjoy no matter what it's like, but that simply isn't true and you've as much a right to not have to participate in something that squicks you out as the girls do. >It's my concern for her, personally, I can't see the comments as anything other than mental self-harm. I'm a touch confused. You think that maybe your GF's lying about liking it, or that she likes it but that it'll damage her, or that she likes it but shouldn't? I mean, your question was >How do I stop feeling so overprotective? which is about your idea of her wellbeing rather than her wellbeing, if that makes sense. On the face of it, it sounds like your GF and the vixen felt their way into a humiliation-driven dynamic that both of them seem to be enjoying, but that you're not. Assuming this enjoyment is genuine on both their parts and they wouldn't also enjoy a less humiliating, compersive dynamic just as much, you can learn to enjoy that dynamic, change it, or not participate any more. Each of those three options has a lot of ways you can go about it, all of which will depend on a lot of different things, so I'm just going to give some random ideas. First and most obvious is >Talk to your GF about it I don't know how things are between you, but "it's weird, I know it's roleplay and you say you enjoy it, but I can't stop feeling uncomfortable and like I should protect you every time <vixen> says something mean, and it's throwing me off during sex" seems like an okay way to start the conversation. Dig into the details and figure out what specifically is squicking you out and why. Listen to what she has to say (assuming she's a good communicator who knows how to honestly talk about sex; not all women are) and see if together you can figure something out. What it comes down to is >Why do they like it? >Why don't you like it? >Can you do something else instead that everyone likes? Some other ideas on how you might shift things around: >Join in Probably not going to work since you said that you >can't see the comments as anything other than mental self-harm but given that the vixen likes to tongue-lash your GF and your GF likes it, you could join in on the verbal bullying to help get your GF off. Sometimes participating in something and seeing the other person enjoying it helps to lessen anxiety because then the nature of the game is obvious. Maybe your GF would like a little bit of verbal humiliation from you too when the vixen isn't around, as a treat? >Act as counterweight LOCAL VIXEN NOT SO TOUGH AFTER BEING DOMINATED This is also known as the "that's my girl you're talking to" solution. The vixen likes lording it over your GF? Remind the vixen who's in charge. (You. It's you; you're in charge, unless this is some kind of vixen-femdom thing in which case all the suggestions go out the window.) Vixen says she's the better woman? Grab her by the throat - or whatever suits everyone's boundaries - and have her prove it. Maybe everyone will like you taking charge like this so much that they won't miss the insults. This turns the vixen's verbal humiliation into a kind of bratting play, and your responding to it that way might satisfy your need to protect? But it also might turn into an escalating bedroom struggle-game, which I imagine would be exhausting if you're not into it. >Figure out an alternative The verbal humiliation squicks you. Is there some other and less verbal way the vixen can get her sadism fix and your GF her masochism fix?
>>3553 >>3554 Thank you for the advice, I'll take it into consideration. >Sounds like she has told you it's ok, but you don't believe her. Why are you worried? >I'm a touch confused. You think that maybe your GF's lying about liking it, or that she likes it but that it'll damage her, or that she likes it but shouldn't? My worry stems from my view that it may be impacting her self-image. While I'm okay with playing a role in her fantasies, I don't want her to see herself in a bad light or as someone who is less deserving than others. I have no evidence that it is impacting her but I still worry about it.
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Can you ladies do house chores? My fiancée does her best to be a housewife but she constantly fucks up and we end up with me either buying out or cooking after a hard day of work.
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>>3556 That seems more like your fiancée being a clumsy retard than anything relating to cuckqueaning.
Alright, I'm >>3540 and I have a question. Since I'm in a LDR, I got a green check on getting on with other women since she says she can't please me. Two issues though, where do I find girls interested in this, preferable somewhat secretly, and secondly, while I want this as it's a hot fantasy. I never really was someone who would go with other women or crazily pursue them. It feels so much not "me" that it hurts, but the fantasy of it makes me want to try it too. How do I get over that?
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>>3558 Doesn't sound much like cuckqueaning so much as a practical "arrangement". Is she getting off to the idea of you sleeping with other women?
>>3556 Pay for her to go to classes?
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I find my bf more attractive than this guy though he most likely objectively isn't. I would normally rate this dude as a solid 9 but can't there's something off that detracts from his masculinity but I can't put my finger in it. Is it the haircut? Is it the hairlessness? Is it that I'm too conditioned to beards? Is he TOO youthful?
>>3571 I find it really hard to rate the attractiveness of a picture, since personality matters so much for attraction, but I can also recognize that he's probably objectively attractive and yet I'm not attracted to him. I think it's because he looks like a fuckboy to me? He looks like he would blow me off to play basketball with his bros, then come home to play fifa all night and gaslight the shit out of me. Something about his facial expression doesn't say "confidence," it says "asshole."
>>3572 >Something about his facial expression doesn't say "confidence," it says "asshole." Yeah, got that vibe too, and not in the genuine bad boy kind of asshole but more of a basic douche asshole. Now I feel kinda bad for judging some boy I don't even know solely because he showed his face in a picture of holding boobs, I'm becoming like my mother.
>>3572 >>3573 His being part of a halfchan screenshot doesn’t help.
>>3573 >Now I feel kinda bad for judging some boy I don't even know solely because he showed his face in a picture of holding boobs I think these kinds of judgements are learned over our lifetime, and they're learned because our brain perceives a pattern there. We all cultivate a persona that we put on for others, and the one he is putting off is basic AF. We wouldn't be picking anything up if he wasn't putting off signals, and I'm not going to ignore obvious flags. If he asked me out and I have nothing but looks too go on, I wouldn't say yes, but if we had gotten to know eachother and he's shown he's substantially different from my first impression I might give him a shot.
>>3571 There’s something spooky about this image. They’re looking at themselves posed on the screen, and that image is itself set inside anonymous others talking about what social labels they represent. She’s faceless; only a smudge of makeup and lips that suggest a posed, vacant erotic rapture. His body’s shaved, hair self-consciously groomed to appear messy, lit like he’s wearing eyeliner, and body rigged with the kind of bubbly plastic muscles that guys develop by doing nothing but isolation lifts. It’s a pose of a pose, void; they’re self-admiring objects set between the toilet roll and can of hairspray that frame the photo like tiny Corinthian columns. The truth is that I don’t find him handsome or dangerous or Chadly or anything else those halfchan anons say I ought: I find him repulsive. I find him repulsive because I sense that the hungry void in this image is in him too, and I loathe it with my entire soul. Four point five out of ten.
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>>3576 Nigga, that's all poetic n' shiet but tbh can't be really angry at him because he has the exact same body and scalp genetics as my man and those would look identical if the later gave enough fucks be a metrosexual call sour grapes if you want, but I now realize how uncanny it would be if he gave in to my requests to shave. Given the subject what's your opinion on body hair? My bf has very good distribution (hairy all over but no hairs on biceps, buttocks or back) and density but I'm afraid that Frank Frazetta and chinese cartoons have brainwashed me into preferring hairlessness and associating body hair with [ugly bastard].
>>3577 I don’t think anyone’s angry at him, just a bit repulsed, and that’s down to a personality read rather than pure looks per se. All the confused male replies are pretty funny regardless. I like a bit of chest hair to run my fingers through and sometimes sniff. I don’t mind a bit of abdomen hair either, but then my man has a medium almost fluffy kind; maybe I’d mind it more if it was the thick, coarse, scratchy kind. Apart from looking pretty good if it’s well-kept, hair has other advantages: Bare skin can get all squelchy when he sweats during sex. Back hair’s a no; mine has some, but he keeps it under control together with his shoulder hair(???). >Frank Frazetta and chinese cartoons have brainwashed me into preferring hairlessness and associating body hair with [ugly bastard]. Kek, bless that man.
>>3560 >Is she getting off to the idea of you sleeping with other women? Alright, we talked it over. Yeah, she gets turned on by me getting it on with other women and me getting shared. How do I find an other girl who would be into this now? Also hmm. While she probably would like me to just have a second girlfriend too, I feel that's maybe going too far? I really do love her, but yeah. I don't know how to feel about this. It does turn me on though, I won't lie.
>>3616 Start slow and feel it out. Discuss in detail with her what she fantasises about, what parts appeal to her, what she’s comfortable doing at first, and so on. Cuckqueans enjoy sharing their men, but exact details really matter because every cuckquean has a different way that she enjoys sharing, as well as different ways she does NOT want to share.
gf for the 5000th time: "You are too good for me, you are way out of my league..." me, with facetious frustration: "Maybe I should fuck other women then." her: *blushing [ HEAVY BREATHING ] I think I may have opened a major can of dickworms. What do?
>>3641 I think they make pills for that, or maybe a cream. Your GP should be able to sort you out.
>>3642 >GP

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