Bisexual dream sequence in episode 6 of 'The Iceblade Sorcerer Shall Rule the World'. I thought it was notable because I've never seen a fantasy harem anime where a member of the harem was implied to be bi before. The show follows all the isekai cliches (not technically an isekai though), but does a few things better, like making the MC knowingly charismatic rather than clueless.

>>4880 More of Iceblade Sorcerer. The redhead girl Amelia is understandably turned on by the thought of getting the shy half-elf girl Elisa to wear a slutty maid costume. Then Ray joins in encouraging Elisa (I like how forward he is). Not sure what to make of the temper tantrum at the end (is she jealous of Elisa or of Ray?) but I'll just assume she's conflicted about wanting to watch them bang.

>>5052 That pushed some of my buttons. Reminded me a little of the bikini shopping scene in Kanojo mo Kanojo. I thought Amelia's voice actress sounded familiar, so I Googled her. Turns out she was the voice of Nekopara's Vanilla. >Not sure what to make of the temper tantrum at the end I interpret it that she's jealous of how frankly and forcefully Ray complimented Elisa. Now we know how a tsundere cuckquean might behave.

>>5053 NTR in the new episode. The author of the light novels and mangas the show is based on is apparently a woman. I feel like that could explain some of the characterizations that differ from similar shows (forthright and confident male protagonist rather than generic blank slate, girl in the harem with feelings for other girls in the harem, etc.).

>>5067 >The author of the light novels and mangas the show is based on is apparently a woman. I feel like that could explain some of the characterizations that differ from similar shows (forthright and confident male protagonist rather than generic blank slate, girl in the harem with feelings for other girls in the harem, etc.). Maybe, but aren’t there plenty of confident male leads written by men (Grisaia’s Yuuji or various Key men come to mind) and blank male leads written by women (see also: most otome)? Likewise girls crushing on romantic rivals/harem-mates, which has been around for a while (though it’s getting more common now). I think that if there is a difference to be drawn between what the sexes produce it will be in how that confidence or blankness is expressed and to what uses it is put. This male lead here for example strikes me as being confident but in a very easily-written way, though obviously judging a character from two short clips isn’t going to be accurate. I gather that the show isn’t slapstick comedy either, which is the genre that our “typical” image of the harem protagonist has been formed from (mostly because of historical quirks in the industry at the time manga/anime importing took off), so naturally the male lead won’t act in a way necessary to set up slapstick gags. Aside, I wonder whether we might overemphasise cliches, whether they might be more about saving our own mental energy and memory than remembering the work itself. In game reviewing, for example, you’ll often hear about “the typical JRPG plot”, which is said to involve rescuing princesses and saving the world with a bright-eyed group of youths bound together by the power of friendship, and how because this plot is ubiquitous the game under review is refreshingly original. Problem is that I’ve never played a JRPG with that plot or those characters. Where is it? The old JRPGs I’ve played had wild plots and settings so it can’t be them. It’s as though the exaggerated average of these elements has formed an imaginary game in everyone’s minds that exists when they need it to. Not to say these don’t form patterns that trend and get tiresome, just that it’s worth thinking about whether we’re over-remembering the repeating elements in favour of what was around them so that we can claim something is different. The handles around thoughts become more important than the thoughts themselves, in other words. Overall, would you say Iceblade Sorcerer’s worth watching?

>>1966 I think the succ linked herself to the husband, and now that the husband and wife's souls are joined, the succ can hop over the new bridge and visit the wife.

Quietly reposting >>2508 here for archival.

This fell through from an alternative 1960s that clearly had very different challenges to ours. Originally posted in the fantasy cuckqueaning thread at >>5029

>>1955 This is such a strange combination of feelings. She's so supportive yet condescending.

>>5030 Wait, no, cancel that, I opened the mini-portal a few months too far back! Here's the version that actually ran a few months later. Originally posted in the fantasy cuckqueaning thread at >>5050

>>4937 This has been Horm Time™, brought to you by the chance discovery of a horned girl stash in a dusty corner of Anon's hard drive.

>>5023 >pic 1 New desktop wallpaper.

>>4976 Putting it like that seems a bit reductive, but I can't say one way or the other since that stuff might not have been in it the last time I played, which was... back in 2016 when it was first posted to the old board. Wow.

>>4504 >>4511 >>4556 Tell you what, this all hits harder now that I’ve seen for myself what the blacked grooming threads on 4chan get up to. The stuff slipped into OEA is exactly the sort of thing they celebrate and discuss spreading; the subtler and more insidious it is the more they gloat. Truly >>4713 was right: >Awareness and knowledge is pretty much the best way to prevent weirdos from getting their claws into your psyche. I just wish Sierra Lee hadn't turned out to be one of those. What a disappointment.

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>>5020 Can you stop already Nobody fucking cares

>>5022 Yeah, fuck your waste of perfectly good dubs. This is an imageboard, not Reddit—we're not fishing for upcummies here. Wouldn't care if I was the only one to notice this, don't care if it's cringe or schitzo to point it out. It is creepy, it does match the downright sinister and destructive shit I saw happening elsewhere, and it was a disappointing and disgusting thing for someone to do... and I've seen some shit. Polite sage for off-topic.

Nice to see this thread back at the top of the catalogue, even if it looks like it wasn't by good means. How we all doing? Been dwelling a lot on fantasy lately so I thought it'd be nice to ground things by relating one of my favorite IRL moments. One of my recently-single girlfriends had been failing to conceal her admiration for my man, and since we're such a caring and considerate couple we took her out to one of our favorite lounge bars to unwind. He's a natural flirt, very physical, so it didn't take more than a drink and a bit before she was giggling and practically wriggling in place—did I mention she'd already been eyeing him off? yeah?—and I could turn the conversation a little dirty. She bit and after a few lighter topics and another drink porn came up. We all liked 2D, so it was natural that that meant doujinshi/eromanga—doujins, as the kids say. I already knew she was into yaoi but she had no idea of my tastes, so when I offhandedly (ha!) complained that it was hard to find threesomes where one of the girls was mainly watching the other girl get fucked instead of playing with her, her jaw nearly hit the floor. "Is that... is that really a threesome, though?" she asked. Her blush was so deep I could see it creeping down her neck, even in the low light. "Who cares? A threesome can be anything you want," said my guy, all but rolling his eyes at me. "Wanna try?" So we went back to our place. She was trying to play it cool but I could tell she was nearly jumping out of her skin with nerves and anticipation both. She'd come straight out with us from her work, so she asked to quickly borrow our shower to freshen up. After she'd gone in, Boyfriend pushed me against the wall, quietly called me a cheeky little bitch, and gave me what I refer to as his gonna-cuck-you kiss, which is a quick, furious affair wherein he holds my neck with one hand and never quite lets me latch to his lips so I have to struggle and steal whatever I can. "She seems jumpy," I murmured, after he'd finished. "Mmmm," he mmmmed, then pulled off his shirt (he does this thing where he grabs one corner with his opposite arm and then peels it off in one motion, I love it) and unbuckled his belt. "I'll take care of it. You get things ready." I don't know what he did in there with her but it was no more than a couple of minutes until the water stopped and she suddenly burst grinning out of the bathroom door, dragging him by the hand, both hastily toweled-off and hot to trot. I felt like I was guiding landing aircraft, so quickly did they end up on the bed together.

>>4534 Re-reading this I just noticed >He'd just finished with her in missionary might be taken to mean that he came in her condomless, which he absolutely did not do. He's got very good control over when he comes, and he put on a condom soon after this. (Yes, I know he should have been wrapped from the start; we were being very naughty.) "Finished" here means "finished with missionary" as in they were switching positions in the middle of things and she just went in for a suck, it wasn't the classic cum-and-juice cleanup blowjob. Okay? Okay!

>>4534 >>4535 Meanwhile, inside Anon's brain...

>>4540 Lol, that's really good, but what was going on inside mine at the time was closer to pic related. I wasn't as experienced a quean as I am today, see, and I might have had a recurring fantasy involving my friend... and, well... I have no excuse, just that you should do as I say, not as I did.

>>1522 >I remember a time our first vixen was spread-eagled face down on the bed making choked moan-whimpers with her fists full of sheet while my man pounded her, and he looked up and into my eyes before giving the happiest "isn't this awesome?" grin >>1685 >If lipstick marks him as her territory then why's he coming home to hilt in me right afterward? Checkmate! >>4534 >this whoel fucking thing

>>4815 Which one? Doesn't look at all /cuckquean/-relevant to me, even by this thread's standards.

>>4353 extremely good angle especially if you mix in a lil' bit of real world breeding patterns in >third world greencard mail order bride for older techie husband >refuses to knock her up >gets a younger model on the side (they look the same age because Asian but the cuck KNOWS) who works under him >she's still working on her career and will for quite some time >"How about it, wifey? Wanna help out? :)" >>4316 Glad someone gets it! >>4309 ..sorry

>>4349 I'm quite curious what meds turn someone queany a/o create a preg fetish. >>4358 Basically what happens in Singapore I believe.

>>4360 I can't imagine you'd find that particular thing documented, but then adjustment periods can produce some absolutely wild states, especially if the prescription was switched over quickly enough that they can interact (e.g. where concern of acute symptoms reasserting themselves doesn't permit a tapered transition). Occam's razor says it's half coincidence, half shitpost.

>>4360 >>4365 benzos gaba activity does numbers on the horny circuits and im usually too anxious to be horby

Does anyone else find themselves imagining that they're running a eugenics program with their man as breeding stud? For me it's a vague, hazy fantasy that comes in fits and starts, each time the details slightly different. I imagine running genomic analysis, advancing the field of predictive genetics, and using it to gather him only the most eugenically fit women to breed. I medically examine them beforehand, quantifying and cataloguing all the ways in which they're fit to bear his children. I answer their questions, confirm their cycles, make sure they're maximally ready to contribute their bloodlines to the grand project that will outlive us all. This is a fantasy, so naturally they're completely on board with my objectives. I study him too, for I want to know everything about him all the time, and together we work to tweak his diet and exercise to make his sperm as healthy and numerous as possible. As we drift to sleep together each night, I cup my hand around his scrotum and fancy that I can feel his balls filling with all the new lives he'll be creating the next day. Naturally, I have to be present for the breeding sessions themselves. How I imagine them differs from moment to moment. Sometimes the girl is nervous, sometimes raring to go. Sometimes I'm just an observer, sometimes I'm a little more involved in a sexual coaching and direct assistance role. Whatever it takes. And at the end of each day I debrief him from my knees, interrogate him in between mouthfuls of his scientifically adulterous cock about how each of these women made him feel, how much pleasure they brought him, what he liked and disliked. I catalogue this and use it to find him even better matches. I am one of the breeding subjects too, for the future belongs to those who show up, but like all subjects I only receive his seed when the union has the highest chance of bearing fruit. I wouldn't want to steal other girls' chances to conceive by skimming his cream, after all. No? Only me?

>>4871 Anon wouldn't be asking us about it if she felt that was something she could just do. If she's on the spectrum then the conversation would be even more overwhelming and difficult than it would already be for a neurotypical person. Talking about it is good advice on its face, but it ignores that all the ingredients that would make that talk successful are often missing. >>4872 I've also seen accounts from men for whom the request for a threesome set off alarm bells, so that wouldn't have made much of a difference. >>4870 >>be in relationship, never tell him I'm a cuck, he cheats on me of his own volition I'm very sorry to hear that happened to you, Anon. Awful. Just awful. You were correct to break up with that guy. >Is this a common issue? Actually decent guys refusing on the basis of loyalty? I've seen lots of different reasons a guy might not want to do cuckqueaning, but there isn't enough time to go into all of them here. I've no idea how common it is for men to refuse, but I've seen plenty of men professing online that they'd not want to do it. I've also stumbled across many horror stories where the girl was indeed trying to manipulate or test the man; I can understand why a man would be suspicious. You can also look at the male advice thread over at >>2371 to confirm that the alarm bells are real. All that said, it seems to me that you have two problems, and that this one— >how do I figure out if I've fucked up? >they'd take a woman asking this as her asking for an open relationship so she can "be a whore without feeling bad about it" and I'm kind of scared that's what he thinks I want. >He's been cheated on before and I'm scared I set off alarm bells in his head.

I hope OP is okay.

>>4952 Me too. I regret getting all pushy with advice and scaring OP off but I still hope it works out. I hate it when bad things happen to good queans.

>>4874 That example comes off as backpedaling and that you considered those things as possible outcomes. Doing nothing and letting it be forgotten as a weird horny moment or a test that he passed would be the safer bet in that situation. Of course, you won't get cucked that way, but if he sees it as a moral issue or something that would endanger the relationship that's probably not happening anyway.

>>4977 (very nice) That's true, I suppose. I always err on the side of being too honest in my relationship so perhaps it is I who have the 'tism.

>>4778 >gif nostagia! still sometimes sing that one potato song to myself outta nowhere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKbJLCZsIOA

>>4800 >I'm glad you have the kind of trust based relationship that allows both of you to be yourselves. At the end of the day that story wasn't really important. Please accept my apologies, Anon—I didn't mean to boast. >But I also have to face the fact that underneath all of that in a deeper desire to feel valuable, to feel worth defending, to be worth something at all. >Maybe that's why I have both a praise and a humiliation kink, I feel worthless so I want my worth to be affirmed but but it can also feel good to revel, rather than wallow, in my lowness. Sex can be weirdly sensible, can't it? >I feel like the stereotypes are that way for a reason, but what if it's confirmation bias? That's what I was groping at, yeah. I think both things are true: The stereotypes are that way for a reason, and confirmation bias exists. There's no easy answer! My own rule of thumb is to deal with individuals and design for populations. I fuck both up all the time, but then most things in life require my being better than I am. >It comes across like a sugar coating on "get back in the kitchen where you belong" when it could be more about how you can be a woman and a scientist/worker/gamer/whatever and you don't have to sacrifice your femininity to be those things. I have to come at this one from outside, I'm afraid, because I don't really relate: Growing up as a tomboy who liked both "guy things" and "girl things", I never found that to have much impact upon whether I felt myself to be a girl/woman or not. I just like things; the fact of my liking them is neither feminine nor masculine. This is, in part, why I always found the whole GaMuRgUrL thing to be a bit of a beat-up—yes, and?—but that's a whole different subject. The system wants us to care deeply and worry about this for its own reasons, but I personally don't. The medium turns the messages into tar babies: They don't particularly care whether you support them or oppose them because the real (not necessarily conscious) objective of the system that carries them is to have you engage, to agree with the implicit idea that it is part of your life, which in turn makes it true. The trap is in touching them at all. That said, I think it's important to distinguish the parts of messages that seek to control—take (destabilized characteristic of target group), glue (payload), release in direction of (target group), go to lunch—and those that arise from the culture at large doing a little introspection, which we experience as the memetic ferment. That arises from questions far too large and important for treatment in a post like this. My own experience is that it was hammered into me from all around as I grew up, sometimes in very frightening ways, that to fall pregnant was to lose and to learn any home-making skills was to set oneself up for surrender and a lifetime of soul-crushing servitude. As with all conditioning, these messages were not thought but felt. I have only been able to dig up and confront the deeper parts in the past few years and have determined with quiet regret that on the whole it was not a good thing. I'm just lucky that I didn't get the full press.

>>4808 >At the end of the day that story wasn't really important. It was an appropriately related story, and I AM happy that you seem to be in a happy, fulfilling relationship. There isn't anything to apologize for. >My own rule of thumb is to deal with individuals and design for populations. This seems like a good rule of thumb. What matters most is that your intentions are in the right place, and when we miss the mark we can always apologize and use the experience to try to be better in the future. >So when I see home-making and child-rearing cast in these kinds of woo-woo terms, I interpret it as attempts to smuggle these roles past the cultural constructs whose mission was to suppress them This seems plausible to me, it always did come across kinda like it was part of someone's agenda. >By what lights do you think you might dissect them, by the way? Candlelight of course! It's the best for intimate work where you're really getting to know your subject, you know? Cheekiness aside, I'd like to explore more about the characters and their relationships. I didn't get to the part where the sister was an actual person, she was just fap material. I'm interested in seeing if there is any chemistry between her and her sister or her and her husband, enough of something to make the relationships believable. While I often find authorial intent to be a rather boring part of literature, here I would like to know what's going on in the author's head. What are they getting out of this, what are the parts of the story they revel in, what kinds of things are being skipped over? I also enjoy rewriting stories in my head, so it could be fun to read it all the way through to see what's there then play around with trying to make it a better story. You've already done some of that above, so I'd have a starting point. >This is kind of fun! I'm glad you didn't hate it! My fingers are crossed that it will get a good ending, I have read a few other stories that seemed like they were leading up to a nice sisterwife harem ending but then they took a hard right and didn't deliver. Though I'd rather have have a wimpy ending than a shift to a squick like cuckhold.

>>4822 Looking forward to your analysis then, Anon.

>>4800 >>4808 >Dark Whispers The author Tessaly came out as a MtF tranny who styles himself a lesbian hypnodomme. Whether that’s relevant is up to you.

Bump for history.

According to Socrates of Constantinople, the Roman emperor Valentinian the Great practiced polygamy, defying Roman law and Christian tradition to marry a woman named Justina after his first wife Marina Severa saw her in the bath and talked his ear off about how beautiful she was. Nobody knows for sure whether this account is true, but if it is, it's fairly easy to interpret Marina as bisexual, a cuck, or both.

>>4810 >Justina being thus bereft of her father, still continued a virgin. Some time after she became known to Severa, wife of the emperor Valentinian, and had frequent intercourse with the empress, until their intimacy at length grew to such an extent that they were accustomed to bathe together. When Severa saw Justina in the bath she was greatly struck with the beauty of the virgin, and spoke of her to the emperor; saying that the daughter of Justus was so lovely a creature, and possessed of such symmetry of form, that she herself, though a woman, was altogether charmed with her. The emperor, treasuring this description by his wife in his own mind, considered with himself how he could espouse Justina, without repudiating Severa, as she had borne him Gratian, whom he had created Augustus a little while before. He accordingly framed a law, and caused it to be published throughout all the cities, by which any man was permitted to have two lawful wives.

Caroline of Ansbach, wife of George II of Great Britain, seems to have fit the bill of a great historical cuckquean: >George Augustus and Caroline had a successful and loving marriage, *though he continued to keep mistresses, as was customary for the time.[23] Caroline was aware of his infidelities; they were well known and he told her about them himself. His two best-known mistresses were Henrietta Howard, later Countess of Suffolk, and, beginning in 1735, Amalie von Wallmoden, Countess of Yarmouth. Howard was one of Caroline's Women of the Bedchamber and became Mistress of the Robes when her husband inherited a peerage in 1731*; she retired in 1734.[24] In contrast with her mother-in-law and husband, Caroline was known for her marital fidelity; she never made any embarrassing scenes nor did she take lovers.[23] She preferred her husband's mistresses to be her ladies-in-waiting so that she could keep a closer eye on them.[25]

>>4932 Reading an article about her at https://royalcentral.co.uk/features/the-wives-of-the-georgian-kings-caroline-of-ansbach-39011/ and she seemed formidable: >Lucy Worsley has called Caroline of Ansbach "the cleverest queen consort ever to sit on the throne of England". >served as regent on occasion >both intelligent and curious, vastly outshone her husband in most cultural and political aspects. So much so, that when they were crowned King and Queen, a satirist wrote about the royal couple: “You may strut, dapper George but ‘twill all be in vain; We know ‘tis Queen Caroline, not you, that reign.” >Caroline convinced the King to commune the sentence of six prisoners, so that they could be a part of an experiment. She made an attempt to inoculate these prisoners against smallpox, and when they all survived, she tried it again – this time on children. The results were favourable, and Caroline soon had her own children inoculated against the disease. In her own way, she was a pioneer in the field of medicine. The relationship between her and her King seems very sweet, too: >Sophia Charlotte was the sister of the future King George I of England. George had a stormy relationship with his own wife, and didn’t want his son, George Augustus, to go through the same thing. So George Augustus was given the freedom to choose a wife of his liking. He settled upon Caroline when, after having heard good reports of her from his aunt, he visited the court in Ansbach to see his future bride. George Augustus immediately took a liking to Caroline’s good character, and the couple were married in Hanover in 1705. >Almost immediately after [their first son] Frederick’s birth, Caroline came down with smallpox. Her infant son was kept away from her to avoid catching the disease, but George Augustus stayed by her side and subsequently developed smallpox himself. >On her death bed, Caroline urged George to remarry, but the King was devoted to his wife, and refused, saying that he would only ever take mistresses instead. After her death, George said that he had known many women, but none of them were fit to buckle Caroline’s shoe. >True to his word, George II never married again, and when he died, 23 years later, he was buried next to her in a matching coffin, devoted till the end.