>>4862 >Gosh I'm old. And a pervert. Ah, and it seems like only yesterday I was touching myself to maid.swf... I wonder what those coming up now will end up remembering as their foundational perversion? >I can share my rules assistant settings with you? They're mostly rules for automating devotion conditions like the game has recommend since the beginning, but I also have a rule to handle all the cosmetic procedures I want like removing implants, giving everyone corsets, setting weight and fitness targets, stuff like that. That would help a lot, actually! Just as I can't imagine playing Dwarf Fortress without Dwarf Therapist (though I hear that functionality is built in now? I have banned myself from playing for some time), I don't like having to click and parse all the blocks of text in FC just to get the girls properly tuned. At least none of the girls in FC start out as cheesemakers. >Once you have around 200k cash on hand, the corporation kicks in and now you have a new thing to manage if you chose to incorporate. After enough time passes, you get opportunities to increase the militarization of the city until you can eventually quarter a private army there, after which you get to manage that. I think that stuff was present last time I played, since I remember experimenting with the aging tanks. I also remember the inter-arcology war you have with the one owner who hates you no matter what. (I spotted the same finger-on-the-scales dynamic in Rogue State Revolution, of all games. It was obvious early on if you knew what to look for that the game wanted the player to end up at war with one of their neighbors in midgame, and sure enough I was right. I wonder how many other players thought "Ah ha, this reminds me of Free Cities!" about that game?) >You can avoid the same pitfall, no? True! Very true! Though, to be fair, I never intended to track or display the exact capacity of any character's breasts. Seriously, I understand why one might want to track the cubic centimeter volume of a slave's breasts behind the scenes, but why show it to the player in those terms by default? Does someone out there require that kind of precision to self-pleasure? >maybe you can try some roleplay if you play again to achieve similar ends? That's what I was trying to do! I find that my imagination kicks in best when I'm in a certain groove, which means that the turns have to fall into a certain loose rhythm. It was just that all the frontloaded details jammed me up and I ended up frustrated instead of relaxed. By the time I hit even a loose stride, I was already out of time. I'll grant you that FC isn't designed to be a break-sized game, but that's what happened all the same. That said, responding the way I did to FC made me realize I was starting to skirt the edge of exhaustion. Part of what I'm trying to do at the moment requires that I develop and combine a lot of new creative skills very quickly. I don't mind the work, but if I push myself into a state for too long I'll just end up putting out slop. Well, moreso than I do already. So thank you, Free Cities, for convincing me to give myself the day off I'm presently enjoying!

>>4865 >I wonder what those coming up now will end up remembering as their foundational perversion? I believe Zone's Ankha video made enough of a splash to wake something in the next generation of perverts. >That would help a lot, actually! Rules attached. The first three are devotion based as mentioned, only thing of note is I give my devoted girls luxurious living standards and I let obedient and up dress themselves. If you think that's too much, you can bump them down to norma living standardsl, or you can make another rule that only gives luxury living to girls that are leaders of facilities like the schoolroom or your recruiter. You can also change the dressing conditions for the girls who know their place if you like to play dress up. The health rule sends gals with low health to the clinic automatically but I never figured out a good condition to remove them automatically (it probably needs another rule for that). It will spit them out once they are in great health, but it wouldn't hurt to change this rule to jut put them on curatives or you can check back every now and again to see if the clinic girls are ready to get back to work.Oor just do what I do and let them stay in until they are the very vision of health. Cosmetic is my workhouse rule, it does all the stuff I forget to do like remove implants of all kinds, removes body hair, paints the girls nails with pretty metalic nailpolish, applies makeup, and performs some medical procedures like restoring vision and hearing where possible. It definitely wouldn't hurt to go through that rule and either set it to no default setting for things you don't want done or turn it on for things you want done to every girl. Contraceptive puts girls on the pill and locks up any dick on the premises (this keeps them safe from accidentally using their wrong sex organ until they're inured enough to slave life that they're happy when they get their new, fully functioning girlparts). I haven't actually done the work to make an auto sterilize rule, so I do it manually. I consider it as part of their graduation from unruly bitch to harem member. It's also relatively easy for me to mark my daughters as ignored for that one rule so we can get them knocked up. >I can't imagine playing Dwarf Fortress without Dwarf Therapist Oh, yes, dwarf therapist. I definitely don't manually enable and disable labors and professions. Who would do that? Not this gal. No Ma'am. >I understand why one might want to track the cubic centimeter volume of a slave's breasts behind the scenes, but why show it to the player in those terms by default? I believe this is because the different cup sizes are all thresholds based on CC volume, so it could be hard to see boobs going up or down in size due to hormonal or growth drug effects without that info. I also have to admit that the idea of being so meticulously measured and cataloged is kindof a turnon. I'm not just being compared to other women at what can be seen at a glance, no push up bra or padding can fool the ever watchful sensors of my master's AI assistant as I'm constantly assessed and contrasted against the other women in the harem. For people who aren't me, I think it's just a case of providing clarity so they don't think their growth drug treatments aren't working or so they know how close a gal is to crossing a threshold. You probably already know this, but there's a toggle for it in description options. On the topic of options, you can also simplify the summary data shown when you're looking at a slave during normal gameplay. If you, for instance, don't care about slave race and nationality, you can remove those from the summary and make it a little less information dense. Rules are probably one of the easiest ones to remove from summary once you have the RA up and running, since you probably don't care what their release rules and typical reward are if they're being handled by your assistant. >It was just that all the frontloaded details jammed me up and I ended up frustrated instead of relaxed. This is very understandable, there is a LOT to process. That's why the built in walkthrough recommends doing some RA, but not until you've poked through the options to figure out what things do. I, of course, promptly ignored that advice and immediately started using the RA to automate living conditions and stuff because I knew I was gonna forget and leave the lovely, fully devoted head girl in shibari ropes forever by accident if I didn't. I also think the walkthrough could use an update, it doesn't have info about the new stuff that was changed so it can be harder to orient oneself. >I was starting to skirt the edge of exhaustion.

>>4866 I can only be very brief at the moment, but I did want to say thank you for those rules, Anon! I tried again and this time I'm off to a much better start, thanks to you. I customized my self-insert as a highly-educated but odd former noblewoman and then made a cute, moderately-breasted lady's maid to accompany her. I'm sure you can take a good guess as to how I set up each of our initial sexual skills. I think that for starters, I'm going to wait until we're both properly to heel and devoted, then have our smart piercings put in at the same time. How to shape us, how to shape us~? (It's a little bit of a shame that there's no setting for a "cosmetic" chastity belt, i.e. one that the player character can unlock at will—with a touch of extra description, natch—rather than not using the holes it covers.) And! To add to this streak, the initial slave that came with the arcology was a statuesque wasp-waisted horny devoted virgin who turned out to be absolutely obsessed with getting knocked up. Straight into chastity and classes with that one, oh yes, with her smart piercing turned all the way up, even if that means we miss out on some early income streams. She's going to be fun. I adjusted your rules to my liking (mostly turning off some cosmetic things I haven't yet decided upon), though something about them catches my eye: >locks up any dick on the premises (this keeps them safe from accidentally using their wrong sex organ until they're inured enough to slave life that they're happy when they get their new, fully functioning girlparts). If you don't mind my asking—and please don't take this as judgemental because it's truly just curiosity—if you're going to lock up and eventually replace their penises anyway, why not set slaves to be 100% female during game setup?

>>4867 >I tried again and this time I'm off to a much better start Happy to be of assistance! Sounds like the harem is off to a great start too. It probably wouldn't hurt to save that start somewhere in case you need to revert back to it, or if you want to upgrade to a newer release someday. >there's no setting for a "cosmetic" chastity belt This takes more clicking, but I use them this way by manually removing them from a girl before initiating one of the manual sex acts. I also recall some events giving the option to sex a gal down in spite of chastity and I thought they had a few lines about the removal, but that could have been horny induced hallucination. >If you don't mind my asking I don't mind you asking, but the answer is because I'm a degenerate. It's off topic for the board so I'll keep it brief, but the idea of my man taking a failed male and turning them into a woman with the power of dick. Thumbs up. The process is fun. Its kindof like how it's more fun when a vixen is really smug at first but then gets the smug fucked out of her. Sure, subby, compliant vixens are great too but there's something special about putting them in their place. I hope that makes sense.

Been thinking about why I liked the Black Souls games so much. One reason is that there was no Reddit stink—they never felt self-conscious, self-impressed, or self-fascinated. Works that play around with fairytales or children's stories can often come across as a little convinced of their own cleverness even though "<x>, but dark" isn't exactly untrammeled ground. Ditto works of the "meta-narrative elements are a fact of the world itself" or "the world is an illusion/wrong underneath/has a terrible secret" variety—there's lots of that around these days, rarely done as cleverly as their creators seem to think they are. But the Black Souls games ignored all insecure ego shit in favor of going absolutely balls-to-wall. They weren't trying to be smart, and that's what allowed them to be clever. I never felt the games were trying to impress me; they just focused on pulling off what they had to do. Humble enthusiasm for their source materials seeped from every pore, and I loved them for it. Nothing satisfies like sincerity! >>4869 >the answer is because I'm a degenerate The last puzzle piece, the final fact, the twist nobody could have predicted! You're most gracious to satisfy my curiosity, Anon. I can't say I quite feel the link between "failed" men being pharmacologically/surgically modified and haughty-vixen-breaking, no matter how sophisticated a fiction the former's wrapped in, but all that's well outside /cuckquean/'s remit anyway—and for good reason, given the latching, squirming things that've been laying their parasitic eggs in that part of the noosphere.

>>4870 Okay, anon, I have this proposal. It might sound insane but hear me out. Sit down and talk to him about it.

>>4870 you've fucked up. Should have asked for a threesome. Even if he said no, there wouldn't be alarm bells going off in his head

>>4871 Anon wouldn't be asking us about it if she felt that was something she could just do. If she's on the spectrum then the conversation would be even more overwhelming and difficult than it would already be for a neurotypical person. Talking about it is good advice on its face, but it ignores that all the ingredients that would make that talk successful are often missing. >>4872 I've also seen accounts from men for whom the request for a threesome set off alarm bells, so that wouldn't have made much of a difference. >>4870 >>be in relationship, never tell him I'm a cuck, he cheats on me of his own volition I'm very sorry to hear that happened to you, Anon. Awful. Just awful. You were correct to break up with that guy. >Is this a common issue? Actually decent guys refusing on the basis of loyalty? I've seen lots of different reasons a guy might not want to do cuckqueaning, but there isn't enough time to go into all of them here. I've no idea how common it is for men to refuse, but I've seen plenty of men professing online that they'd not want to do it. I've also stumbled across many horror stories where the girl was indeed trying to manipulate or test the man; I can understand why a man would be suspicious. You can also look at the male advice thread over at >>2371 to confirm that the alarm bells are real. All that said, it seems to me that you have two problems, and that this one— >how do I figure out if I've fucked up? >they'd take a woman asking this as her asking for an open relationship so she can "be a whore without feeling bad about it" and I'm kind of scared that's what he thinks I want. >He's been cheated on before and I'm scared I set off alarm bells in his head.

>>4681 No kidding. I miss the... before. Before all this. Being able to understand what's happening and how just makes it hurt worse. It's getting to the point where it feels like the inside of my relationship and imageboards like this one are the only two places that aren't actively trying to drive me mad. Irony is that I liked being tolerant. Believing that we'd be free to pick and choose, that there'd be plenty of room to get along, that the slope was as dry and navigable as advertised. But culture is everyone's problem, right? I can't complain unless I'm willing to throw my own stuff into the mix however I can and damn the consequences. Otherwise I'm no better than the creators who by compliance or outright collaboration have chosen to be part of the problem. >>4679 >vishuddha chakra >If we accept this symbolism then interpretation becomes risky because there are a lot of different ways to see what happened in its light. That's a very interesting angle on it. I think this is the sort of thing that needs mulling rather than figuring out, if that makes sense. I won't go further into it and I'm sorry for posting something so personal; it seemed much more relevant to the thread at the time. >Might you, uh... have any more of that kind of picture, by chance? Be churlish to refuse, wouldn't it Anon? Here, to cheer us up from all this gloom: A small smorgasbord of freshly-filled kemonomimi! Please allow your imagination to form whatever before and after you would like. ...you ever have one of those moments where it hits you just how much of a pervert you've become? Yeah, me neither.

>>4441 >imagine how much better sniffing him afterward could be if you had the advanced olfactory ability of a pusspuss or an awoo.

>>4447 >Sprite Brainwash Factory 2 I decided to take the plunge in spite of the elements I thought I might not like (of which there were quite a few, but were mostly in optional bonus scenes) and bought this for the things I did like (of which there were also quite a few!). It's very slickly put together—two sisters, each of whom have eleven scenes with multiple switchable angles, multiple parts to each scene, an optional second audio track with the fairy's inner monologue, text readouts that explain the stage of the process you're seeing... very impressive. The only board-relevant moments are at the end, though, where the older fairy sister holds her imouto open for inspection as part of the sales pitch the sisters make after being brainwashed and modified. The fairy that makes the pitch during this section depends on which one you followed through the factory, who will extol the virtues of also using the other one. The video files are silent, probably because the audio is separate so that the different videos for different angles can be more easily switched between. Overall (spoilered for board-irrelevant list of fetishes), if you like faeries (obviously), machine brainwashing, bondage, tentacles (both mechanical and gooey), electricity, injections, anal training, aphrodisiacs, large insertions (of course, but only two or so scenes involved it), bukkake, slow vibes, a little bit of vacuum sealing, sensory deprivation, mindbreak, post-mindbreak monologues, partial mechanization surgery (no cuts or blood), or (in bonus scenes) oversize futa and nipple expansion/fucking then this might be worth grabbing!

For those interested, I just checked Spidernon's site on a whim and saw that he's got a new sequel(?) to Husband of the Swarm/Day of the Spike mentioned in >>2907 where the girlfriend is a hivemind: https://spidernon.home.blog/2023/01/24/husband-upon-sporn-amnesia/ Haven't read it myself, but I scrolled down to a random point and: >“I think…” one of the larger warriors said, stepping forward. It was the one who had the harsh voice. This one was tall, and looked more functionally inclined than the others. Brutish, even. She lowered her spear until it was over my throat. Her eyes had little warmth, and a great amount of coldness, no doubt inculcated by the harshness of this world. “I think this is just a man. An outsider. We kill outsiders, and turn their bodies into food to make more Lithelings, and their bones into trophies.” >“But the Tick-Tickth…” >“They are idiots,” the large warrior snapped at the smaller girl. “The Us-Mother has them root through scum and debris to find the Great Mouth’s parasites. We caught them worshipping a dark elven sex toy once, remember?” >The Tick-Ticks shouted ticks at this, raising their fists and shaking them. They clearly saw this as a mischaracterization of what they were doing with the sex toy. One Tick-Tick tapped me on the shoulder, and shook her head vehemently. >I swallowed as the spear point hovered inches over my throat. Yep! It's a Spidernon story.

>>4855 Whoa, the vixen needs me? Okay. I'll do it. I'm going to use my mouth for you, vixen. I've got your back, vixen!

>>4855 >>4858 We need a matching "I'm here for moral support" shirt. I'm here to serve and I know my place.

>>4859 >>4858 >Oral support gf Sounds like a girl that only exists to get her bf up to full mast before the vixen arrives, then clean them both up afterwards while praising them. Either that or shes the most orally fixated of a harem of girls dedicated to honing their skills at one kind of sex act for the sake of hubby.

>>4861 Anon, stop, my pussy can only get so wet!

>>4861 >while praising them Deeply, deeply underrated part of the experience right here. It's very soul-nourishing when you can see that someone's absorbed your sincere praise. I've never had the opportunity to have a... a kouhai-vixen? You know, a vixen who's a little sexually insecure, hasn't fully blossomed yet. Anyway, imagine being able to let such a vixen know how well she wrung your hubby's load out of him in between lapping it back out of her, and then seeing your praise help her to gain confidence with every new round. That hubby's a fuckin' stud goes without saying, but it never hurts to say so anyway; I'm reliably informed that it lands best straight after pulling away from cleanup fellatio. Spurring them on during the act is also a lot of fun. There are just so many uses to which a tongue may be put! >a harem of girls dedicated to honing their skills at one kind of sex act for the sake of hubby "Vaginal!" "Oral!" "Anal!" "Manual!" "...Humping?" By your powers combined, I am... >>4859 I just looked to see if Mooncancer had done any more Charlie comics, and oh... oh yes... yes he had. Thanks for the reminder, Anon.

>>4821 >30-hour Ring Fit stream >tortured herself until she got 150 viewers >that sobbing >for 150 viewers

>>4834 never knew guns can look inbred

>>4849 Anything can now look inbred, thanks to the magic of AI!

>>4852 what if your man is an only child and you use AI 3D waifu printing to make him the sister he never had

>>4856 Then she'd steal him from me with her giant AI designed brain.

>>4444 petition to ban wasted get

Kek. White dude propositioned and sexually harassed by his asian girlboss because she knew he was married to an asian. I guess she didn't realize his wife only wants him fucking white vixens. https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/internet/google-executive-fired-after-female-boss-groped-him/news-story/1901a730cb7075916e90a9f072732757

>>4842 >Miller, director of Google’s programmatic media, rubbed Olohan’s abs, complimented his physique, and told him her marriage lacked “spice,” >began retaliating against him after he made the complaint by reporting him to human resources for “microaggressions,” >he was told by the Google Employee Investigations team that he was being fired because he was not “inclusive.”

>>4843 >>he was told by the Google Employee Investigations team that he was being fired because he was not “inclusive.” Guess he should have included the queen bitch in his bedroom. she'd be the one doing the watching

>>4842 Wait let me get this straight. She approches him first to seduce him, both are already married, but he didn't welcome it and report it for harassment...But in the end she just report him back and he got fired because he didn't want to accept the sexual harassment??? At least the HR are unashamed to admit that if the gender is reversed, the situation would "escalate".

>>4781 That's just sad.

Black Twitter asking the real questions.

>>4811 >implying they're not already all fucking him Fun fact: Many Japanese love hotels run a side trade in letting their larger rooms out for 女子会 (lit. girl-party, i.e. girls' night). Now, I'm not suggesting that it's a good idea to get the party-sized rooms for cheaper by smuggling your bf into an entirely legitimate girls' night where all the other attendees happen to be vixens, I'm just saying that you should make sure to scout the hotel's elevator to make sure your grossly oversized case full of girls' night supplies will fit.

I saw a sci-fi movie called 'Possessor' recently by David Cronenberg's son. Can't really recommend it to most of you due to the extreme violence and dark tone, but cuckqueaning does come up. The plot is that this corporation uses a secret technology to have their operatives possess someone's body for assassination purposes. They have to knock out the person they are possessing to do some surgery on them first, and they then enter and control their body to go after less accessible people in that person's circle. Usually make it look like a murder-suicide. Main character is a woman named Tasya Vos who does this regularly and is losing her sense of identity. She's ordered to possess a man, Colin Tate, who is the fiancé of the daughter of a data mining company's CEO (in order to kill both). Tate works for the same company. At one point Vos (in Tate's body) is approached by a friend and co-worker of Tate who brags about his sexual exploits and asks if he also got laid on a recent trip. Vos responds >What do you think? And the friend goes >Good man. I always considered it your moral obligation to cuckquean the boss's daughter. Later there's a scene where Vos comes home to Tate's fiancée doing coke with some of her girlfriends. One of the girlfriends approaches Vos alone in the bathroom later and says in an intimate way >Can we be friends again? Ava [the fiancée] doesn't care; she doesn't mind at all. So it appears Ava really is a willing cuckquean. There are some graphic sex scenes in the movie, but none of them are cuckqueaning. In one, Vos, while possessing Tate, fucks Ava, which I guess is technically cuckolding him in his own body. Similar to >>4744 where a girl is possessed by a ghost who fucks her husband. I feel like the whole cuckqueaning-through-possession angle is a potential goldmine. Anyway, well-made movie if you can handle how grim it is. Not worth watching if you're in it for the cuckquean angle alone as it's more of a sidenote. But it was interesting to see that in it.

>>4845 >Can't really recommend it to most of you due to the extreme violence and dark tone >implying that isn't a plus The most significant thing about this, though, is that they're using the term "cuckquean" directly, and in more or less its correct context. I'm kind of amazed.

>>4791 >Foxgirl Ha, if only! I'm glad you found my little hints helpful.

>>4789 Update time >wife kicked off a overly serious conversation about how we should probably stop >that she was concerned about me leaving/cheating >admitted to feeling inadequate and somewhat conflicted over it >ended up having a rather deep heart to heart >wife suddenly begins reiterating that itd be impractical to have a second wife and why >but admits far more openly that she isnt opposed to it >both of us end up falling asleep in each others arms after agreeing to stop the roleplaying >fastforward to me being woken at whats basically 4am >wife is back to the roleplay and has apparently expanded on it >ask about why the sudden relapse on it? >"Brooke" tells me to shut up and fuck her before wife gets back Wife eventually admitted she reconsidered her desire to put this away because she "needed" it. When pressed to elaborate, she gets flustered and refuses. >Wife is escalating >Im teased relentlessly about either her or the "Brooke"

>>4826 I wonder if there's any stories out there about a woman developing multiple personality disorder and having her personalities cuckquean each other.

I came across this piece of extra art on the MGE Tentacle girl's profile and thought of this board. I don't really have much of an interest in the whole thing, if I was lucky enough to be in a situation where I had two loyal and loving wives, the most I'd feel was right was one encouraging the other during sex or exchanging banter when it's going to be the other's turn. That or something like the situation being presented in pic related. The thought of actually shoving out someone I'm in love with and denying them the opportunity to even participate in sex just feels wrong somehow. I'm a bit of a writer and I'm planning on eventually trying to get a NSFW patreon type thing for my stories set up. And seeing as how this might be one of the things I could be okay with writing about, I'd like to get some perspective on this, if it's not too much to ask. also I know at least one of you femanons here is the genuine article. Women writers tend to have a similar written style in my experience.

>>4829 It's not clear to me exactly what you're asking for perspective on, but suffice to say that denying sex to the cuckquean isn't mandatory. Cuckqueaning is us enjoying our men fucking other women; the rest is detail. I recognize the situation in your pic as being quite queany in any case. Best of luck with your smut venture. >>4826 >Effectively, like when shes "wife" wanting to imply that Brooke has to wait and shes only allowed to watch and even eventually clean up after us once were done because thats Brooke's soul purpose as the second wife and what she agreed to do when wife approved bringing her in... Not sure what this dynamic would be referred to. Dominant Cuckquean? >Theres also an odd bit of seeming to make it like "Brooke" is the cuckquean and that wife is tue vixen at times, kind of interesting. It's not surprising that your wife would scatter her urges through different parts of her fantasy-self and fantasy-others since it sounds as though she negotiates with her desires by turning them into a puzzle. It's not an uncommon way to handle this sort of thing because it a) allows the person to experiment in a way that's (barely) deniable both to them and their partner and b) gives them a source of attention and reassurance from their partner engaging with the puzzle at all. One of the ways this can go wonky is if the felt reward for wrapping things in dramatic enigmas becomes greater than the need to resolve them. But it sounds like things are still moving, so that's not yet a worry. You're being very observant and understanding, by the way—good work! Particularly commendable is how you're spotting the right moment to give things a little push, which is what she both wants and needs.

>>4738 You gave me lots of food for thought with this one, par for the course for /cuckquean >in person I default to being agreeable and a little timid >It seems that alongside his flirting with the vixen, my man had been quietly keeping tabs on me. When he noticed this guy getting touchy... he told her he'd be right back and came straight over to extract me. It sounds like he knows you and recognized a situation you were struggling in, and he stepped up to help out. I'm sure if you were the kind of woman who enjoys rebuffing and roasting slimeballs, your husband wouldn't have snatched that experience away from you. I'm glad you have the kind of trust based relationship that allows both of you to be yourselves. It's not like I want to be stifled, I guess I just want to feel safe and cared for, to feel defended. But I also have to face the fact that underneath all of that in a deeper desire to feel valuable, to feel worth defending, to be worth something at all. Maybe that's why I have both a praise and a humiliation kink, I feel worthless so I want my worth to be affirmed but but it can also feel good to revel, rather than wallow, in my lowness. That's all about the angle, of course. Sexual humiliation is one thing, dragging my accomplishments through the muck is definitely not hot. >Some of them can be frighteningly intuitive and intelligent >averages rule on both sides of the sexual divide. Both points are true, and one does need to be careful to avoid overgeneralizing one's anecdotal experience. I feel like the stereotypes are that way for a reason, but what if it's confirmation bias? Yea, sometimes men accept statements at face value without thinking about any deeper meaning, but women do that too. Maybe the times when women have done so don't stick in my head. And how many times have men been trying to tell me something subtly and completely missed it because I'm being a total autist that day? Probably far too many times to count. Reality is often messy and our brains make mental shortcuts based on perceived utility rather than real utility. If only it was easier to be truly objective, >memetic material floating around in the culture that would have us swallow that most women are superlative communicators and fonts of feminine wisdom This brings to mind all those people out there talking about the "divine femininity of housework" and their "feminine energy being channeled into child rearing" but no one is talking about the divine feminine being channeled to make you a better STEM researcher or welder or whatever. Why is it that the divine feminine always has to be related to stereotypical "women's work"? It comes across like a sugar coating on "get back in the kitchen where you belong" when it could be more about how you can be a woman and a scientist/worker/gamer/whatever and you don't have to sacrifice your femininity to be those things. >>4778 > there seems to be some decent sister cuckqueaning scenes in there but by the time I found them I wasn’t in the mood anymore.

>>4778 >gif nostagia! still sometimes sing that one potato song to myself outta nowhere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKbJLCZsIOA

>>4800 >I'm glad you have the kind of trust based relationship that allows both of you to be yourselves. At the end of the day that story wasn't really important. Please accept my apologies, Anon—I didn't mean to boast. >But I also have to face the fact that underneath all of that in a deeper desire to feel valuable, to feel worth defending, to be worth something at all. >Maybe that's why I have both a praise and a humiliation kink, I feel worthless so I want my worth to be affirmed but but it can also feel good to revel, rather than wallow, in my lowness. Sex can be weirdly sensible, can't it? >I feel like the stereotypes are that way for a reason, but what if it's confirmation bias? That's what I was groping at, yeah. I think both things are true: The stereotypes are that way for a reason, and confirmation bias exists. There's no easy answer! My own rule of thumb is to deal with individuals and design for populations. I fuck both up all the time, but then most things in life require my being better than I am. >It comes across like a sugar coating on "get back in the kitchen where you belong" when it could be more about how you can be a woman and a scientist/worker/gamer/whatever and you don't have to sacrifice your femininity to be those things. I have to come at this one from outside, I'm afraid, because I don't really relate: Growing up as a tomboy who liked both "guy things" and "girl things", I never found that to have much impact upon whether I felt myself to be a girl/woman or not. I just like things; the fact of my liking them is neither feminine nor masculine. This is, in part, why I always found the whole GaMuRgUrL thing to be a bit of a beat-up—yes, and?—but that's a whole different subject. The system wants us to care deeply and worry about this for its own reasons, but I personally don't. The medium turns the messages into tar babies: They don't particularly care whether you support them or oppose them because the real (not necessarily conscious) objective of the system that carries them is to have you engage, to agree with the implicit idea that it is part of your life, which in turn makes it true. The trap is in touching them at all. That said, I think it's important to distinguish the parts of messages that seek to control—take (destabilized characteristic of target group), glue (payload), release in direction of (target group), go to lunch—and those that arise from the culture at large doing a little introspection, which we experience as the memetic ferment. That arises from questions far too large and important for treatment in a post like this. My own experience is that it was hammered into me from all around as I grew up, sometimes in very frightening ways, that to fall pregnant was to lose and to learn any home-making skills was to set oneself up for surrender and a lifetime of soul-crushing servitude. As with all conditioning, these messages were not thought but felt. I have only been able to dig up and confront the deeper parts in the past few years and have determined with quiet regret that on the whole it was not a good thing. I'm just lucky that I didn't get the full press.

>>4808 >At the end of the day that story wasn't really important. It was an appropriately related story, and I AM happy that you seem to be in a happy, fulfilling relationship. There isn't anything to apologize for. >My own rule of thumb is to deal with individuals and design for populations. This seems like a good rule of thumb. What matters most is that your intentions are in the right place, and when we miss the mark we can always apologize and use the experience to try to be better in the future. >So when I see home-making and child-rearing cast in these kinds of woo-woo terms, I interpret it as attempts to smuggle these roles past the cultural constructs whose mission was to suppress them This seems plausible to me, it always did come across kinda like it was part of someone's agenda. >By what lights do you think you might dissect them, by the way? Candlelight of course! It's the best for intimate work where you're really getting to know your subject, you know? Cheekiness aside, I'd like to explore more about the characters and their relationships. I didn't get to the part where the sister was an actual person, she was just fap material. I'm interested in seeing if there is any chemistry between her and her sister or her and her husband, enough of something to make the relationships believable. While I often find authorial intent to be a rather boring part of literature, here I would like to know what's going on in the author's head. What are they getting out of this, what are the parts of the story they revel in, what kinds of things are being skipped over? I also enjoy rewriting stories in my head, so it could be fun to read it all the way through to see what's there then play around with trying to make it a better story. You've already done some of that above, so I'd have a starting point. >This is kind of fun! I'm glad you didn't hate it! My fingers are crossed that it will get a good ending, I have read a few other stories that seemed like they were leading up to a nice sisterwife harem ending but then they took a hard right and didn't deliver. Though I'd rather have have a wimpy ending than a shift to a squick like cuckhold.

>>4822 Looking forward to your analysis then, Anon.