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De-Radicalisation in the name of Christ. Anonymous 04/02/2022 (Sat) 16:07:46 No.7176
I imagine many of you are familiar with being on different chans, so chances are you were racist for a time, and perhaps still are, but to those ones that moved past racism, how did you do so? I have overcome 'white pride' as that was an easy one to reconcile with the Lord (gay pride, trans pride, black pride, white pride; it's all pride and thus a sin) But I've found /pol/ to be very alluring in its racism, and in many ways it's hard to refute what's in front of your eyes, albeit a lot of the information is sensationalised at the very least if not untrue. I want to love more, I don't want hate needlessly, I hate what is immoral, unjust, spiteful, anything that goes against God; but I want to love like Jesus loved, but being racist still makes a lot of sense to me.
A very good way for de-radicalization is to familiarize yourself with all kinds of shit that was always going on in the various corners of our planet at different times, therefore gaining immense universal HATRED towards homo sapiens species and deeper insight into flaws of human nature that are inherent to all of us. Afterwards you, mai frend, will no longer retain naive sympathy towards any select groups of human population nor will you be subject to anyone's propaganda. Stage two will be about gaining calm understanding, lenience and forgiveness towards these flaws. You will see humans for what they are - pathetic, sad, damaged images of themselves, suffering and making other suffer, being victims of invisible evil. You will no longer love yourself, though you will also not be enthusiastic about sick public self-flagellation either. You will no longer love life. And maybe then, you will submit to the will of God, the only one who can clean up all of the mess that we've made so far, including our personal lives.
You can love others while being race-aware. It's called "recognizing differences exist and judging on the content of one's character." There are community and societal solutions to racial problems that don't involve violence. In many cases you don't even need exclusionary policies.
non-whites and women don't have souls. You have to be absolute in your will and exercise your free-will and oppose all non-whites and women. That's why you're on Earth - to grow by learning and to use your free-will once you know the truth. If you side with non-whites and women, then you side with demons against God.
>>7189 Is there a source in scripture for this?
>>7176 Cringe.
>>7178 >Afterwards you, mai frend, will no longer retain naive sympathy towards any select groups of human population 1 Timothy 5:8 But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. A man that doesn’t provide for his own or those of his own house [οἰκεῖος] “kindred, related by blood” is worse than an unbeliever!
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>>7176 as you said alot of the information on /pol/ and elsewhere is sensationalized/untrue, if it makes you feel any better you can dedicate time to sifting through it and finding the truth, if you lack the ability to do that then you can just walk away. And of course racism is appealing to you everybody is looking for either meaning or answers and often times the people who inhabit these websites are good at giving it, even if its wrong. If you want the truth (or meaning to your life) then ask God, one thing thats helped me in the past was to sit down and flip to a random page in the Bible. Maybe youll find your answer there, if not, email me.
I was a White Nationalist for several years, but grew disillusioned with WNs after seeing that literally every stereotype about them online and offline about this is true - they are low quality individuals, often mentally ill, paranoid, never taking responsibility for their own actions or shortcomings, etc. Being White is a giant cope for their other shortcomings. I never became a better person as a WN, I just became more and more extreme, isolated, bitter and paranoid. I began pondering exactly why I cared about the things I did though, and realized that I really didn't care that much about 'muh race'. I looked more and more into Christianity, because I still felt like *something* was and is deeply wrong in the world, and Christianity answers these questions, and shows us that we are all corrupted by sin, that this world is fallen, it is under the dominion of forces of evil, etc. Racial differences exist, but by the only real objective standard, i.e. God's, they don't matter. 1 Samuel 16:7 >But the LORD said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the LORD sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the LORD looks on the heart.”
>>7176 Ethnicity in humans is analogous to subspecies in animals. What works for one won't necessarily work for another, and lumping them together does nothing but create strife and hatred. There's nothing wrong with being proud of your people. For crying out loud, half the bible is about the Hebrews establishing a nation for themselves and their descendants, and staying together as a people. What you call racism is the natural way of seeing the world, and it's only postmodern propaganda that has convinced you otherwise. No one said you had to hate or dehumanize others, but in essence racism is the truth of human genetics.
>>7227 > half the bible is about the Hebrews establishing a nation for themselves and their descendants, and staying together as a people. You read it wrong.
>>7229 sola scriptura
>>7231 Here we see the Protestant in his natural habitat, mumbling ‘sola scriptura’ in a non sequitur response as a defensive measure
>>7229 No, you did. The Old Testament is a chronicling of the Jewish people's history. Jews understand dominion and legacy. Why don't you?
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>>7176 >how did you do so? Read the book "Rising Out of Hatred: The Awakening of a Former White Nationalist" it kind of helps, i haven't finished it, even though it sometimes appeals to your emotions it's sometimes compelling. I realized that the spiritual is more important than race and that there is more to the elite than the jews in the elite. You can accept that the races are different and still love them and not be a nazi, just don't jump to the conclusion that whites are automatically better because they aren't in prison as much as blacks, and there are many variables why that could be beyond blacks being another race entirely.
>>7176 All socialist boards are alluring because they give cult-like immersion and a place to vent frustration. The moment you show them how their ideology is basically the same as their ideological opponents, well you don't really pry them open but you surely break a lot of their confidence. Great channel to get counterarguments from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpuGRO72GbA
>>7237 >You can accept that the races are different and still love them and not be a nazi, just don't jump to the conclusion that whites are automatically better because they aren't in prison as much as blacks, ehh... you went too far. no thanks.
You know what? You will never be able to free your minds. Because you're afraid to.
>>7176 Then why are you here? Why didn't you go to reddit if you like-minded people? Post this on /fascist/ if you really want to talk about this. Also td;dr
>>7249 >>7250 >>7251 Cute wife, but completely out of place for this thread, and maybe board. Be sure to tell her that sex is for marriage and make her legions marry first before they ravish their new husbands. >>7252 That fourth pic is not really acceptable here I presume.
>>7255 Thanks, I'm sure to tell her that, even though in her culture marriage is sex. But I'll try. Yeah I didn't notice that about the forth pic. By the way she's called Druella and she's from mge.
>>7257 it's probably hard to tell, but I already know who Druella the Fourth Lillim is my fellow /monster/-fag.
>>7258 Well then you should know who I'm then.
>>7245 Just because a lot of whites are smarter and stronger (which could because of their elite resources) doesn't mean they're better than blacks(or unworthy of life as /pol/ would say), who also have intelligent and strong people in them.
>>7235 I guess you missed the part where the Jews' nation was an absolute failure and it was only through the grace of God alone that they established anything at all. And of course, when they crucified the Lord, they were utterly rejected, their temple destroyed, and to this day, the vast majority of them remain hard of heart and blasphemers of the Lord. The entire Bible is about the FAILURE of the Jews to follow God, to not be good, to establish themselves and reap the benefits God promised to them, etc. Not to mention the entire OT is about Jesus Christ on the truest level, not golden calf worshiping and prophet-killing Jews.
>>7237 >>7265 It's not so much that one race is better than the other, it's which race will win out in the end. If your "christianity" gets in the way of that, than it is not worth being christian. The positive part is that one way or another the strong will inherit the earth while white cuckholds like you insist on loving your enemies and pretending self hatred and defeatism are virtuous.
>>7273 read the Bible white people are where we are because we rejected God, its not a coincidence that when America was 100% Christian we were in a better place
>>7245 From the objective, spiritual standard of God, that anon is 100% correct and nothing in it can be disputed without fundamentally rejecting the Gospel and other aspects of Scripture. >>7273 >It's which race will win out in the end The only race which matters - the spiritual race of Christians . Read 1 Peter 2:9. Christians are a chosen race, a holy nation, royal priests. We are the Israel of God (Galatians 6:16). White, black, yellow, red, etc. - none of these matter to the God. Read 1 Samuel 16:7. You are a race idolator . I pray that you realize that Jesus Christ didn't teach the sort of ethnic particularism that you are shilling here. He taught you to love God, to love your neighbor, and to do good works, helping the poor, sick and suffering, regardless of who they were. Galatians 3:28 makes it as clear as day. None of your precious worldly categories matter for those who are in the Body of Christ, we are of the chosen race of Christians, not 'muh whites' or 'muh blacks' or 'muh Jews'. In the scope of eternity, your precious race will die off and be remembered by no one. Yet the Word of God will endure forever and ever.
>>7273 >it's which race will win out in the end. We all lose, even when our race is the top of the pyramid, do you belive whites elites don't subvert other whites? >If your "christianity" gets in the way of that, than it is not worth being christian. Then you're a race idolater and were never a Christian in the first place, what are you doing here? All of Christianity is neutral when it comes racial politics, this is why it pisses off the left and the right. Christianity has always gotten in the way of fascism and socialism, because it's it's own belief system for God, it's not here to be subordinate to one side or to say your bad behavior is virtuous. >The positive part is that one way or another the strong will inherit the earth That must be why the meek Christians have the largest religion on earth or that the "might is right" pagans have lost to them? >while white cuckholds like you insist on loving your enemies and pretending self hatred and defeatism are virtuous. You're defining love as being a gutless weakling. Love or humbleness doesn't mean to be "nice" to your enemy or to hate yourself for being white, that's just your distorted Nazi perspective that you present as truth. You aren't even trying to be open to Christianity you just want another Nazi echo-chamber to affirm your beliefs.
>>7275 >In the scope of eternity, your precious race will die off and be remembered by no one. Cope.
>>7278 >That must be why the meek Christians have the largest religion on earth Unironically it is. Christianity was successful as a religion not because of any innate truth because people were willing to defend it and spread it by force. South American today is overwhelmingly Catholic because the natives were conquered and subjugated by Catholic Spaniards.
>>7288 >Unironically it is That is my point, it was a sarcastic rhetorical question.
>>7272 >OT is about Jesus You mean the parts purposely mistranslated as a post-hoc justification of Christian beliefs? The Jews always believed in their own people, and they still do. That's why they're so successful, and it's why they clung to their identity when so many other ancient peoples were scattered to the wind. The Greeks, Assyrians, Egyptians, and Romans no longer exist as ethnic groups. You might say "what about Greece," but the people living there today bear no resemblance to ancient Greeks. Having cohesion as a People is the most important thing in the world. It's the difference between life and death. Dimwits like you, however, we're probably better off without. >golden calf worshipping jews >prophet killing jews You seem to hate the Hebrews despite worshiping their faith. How does it feel to be a hypocrite? Talking to people like you makes me think maybe white genocide isn't a bad thing.
I don't know who is worse anymore - grievously misguided natsocs or propagandized church-goers. Let's just wait until the apocalypse and the second coming, for then no one will be in the mood to laugh anymore. >>7297 >their faith Not theirs to keep anymore. God has taken away their blessings and is instead blessing everyone who is willing to believe and follow. They live good lives precisely because God has given up on them, and good life corrupts, very much so. You praise them for their ethnicity-centered thinking, but would you like to "prosper" like they do? Have you seen what their society is like on the inside? Even their rituals are mad, bloody, perverted and share common traits with pagan gods worship which God has always condemned. Our God hates degeneracy even more than you, natsocs, do. It's just that he is still waiting, waiting patiently. But his tremendous, terrifying wrath will be unleashed soon. Just you wait. My advice for you is to keep living in the spirit of truth, not letting anyone or anything - including teachings of your favorite political figures nor beast-marked priests who don't know anything - deceive you.
>>7297 >Having cohesion as a People is the most important thing in the world. Haha, no. Coming to know God and to love Him and follow His commandments is infinitely more important than worshiping your race like a Jew, a people who have been essentially rejected by God for the last two thousand years as they persist in their rejection of the true God and Christ. I pray they come into the fold of the Church one day. Jews aren't successful at all by the only standard that matters. Serving Mammon, Scientism, Atheism and degeneracy isn't success. It's the modern version of Baal worship that they did in ancient Israel and Judah.
>>7176 People don't have to be lesser for it to be better to not mix them. Mixing peoples leads to racial tensions, racial tensions lead to violence. Putting large amounts of people in the west that either have a low IQ or simply will never speak the language creates a permanent underclass that hates and blames the natives for it, while the natives blame them for increasing crime. Does that sound healthy? It is best if we stay among our own, at least as far as mass movement of people is concerned, and large-scale charity needs to be oriented more towards improving infrastructure and raising up people so they can sustain themselves than just dropping millions of portions of food into Africa for all eternity - and in increasing amounts. Charity on such a huge scale needs to have more of a strategy than a single guy giving five bucks to a homeless man. Infinite free food killed off many African farmers for example, who couldn't sell their produce because they couldn't compete with "free".
>>7340 the two biggest reasons for not race mixing other than conservation are: (1. the races are all best suited for their native environment therefore mixing them creates genetically inferior humans and (2. preservation history/heritage
>>7298 >Not theirs to keep anymore. Never was the so called jews >od has taken away their blessings and is instead blessing everyone who is willing to believe and follow. God never took away the Israelite (Aryan) blessing.
WN literally fetishise interracial couples and are addicted to BBC.
>>7176 >I'm proud of my son's accomplishments, but I shouldn't be proud of my race's accomplishments. Ah, yes. How Biblical. I'll bet you were the same Jehovah's Witness on /pol/.
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This weapon uses gods light to blind people for life instantly. God himself has radicalized me.
>>7344 >God never took away the Israelite (Aryan) blessing. Parable of the Vineyard debunks you. >>7368 The only ones who are proud of their 'race's' accomplishments are ones who have achieved nothing themselves. You have never invented anything.
Langley isn't sending their best
>>7369 You again? Were you busy or something?
>>7380 >ones who are proud of their 'race's' accomplishments Literally EVERY f----ng jew, be it some janitor or someone of Albert Einstein stature. Every single one of them is proud as f---.
>>7406 >Jews rejected by God >turn into race idolators Shocker!
Nowadays the clash between right-wing and left-wing ideologies is so intense that it's hard not to be swayed either way. One must see things outside of contemporary and historical context and remember that it is all vain and will end soon anyway in order to remove attachments or grudges towards any select group of people. If left-wing and right-wing thinkers curse you alike, you're likely on the right track. Everything will perish. Only eternal truths will remain.
>>7444 Amen.
>I want to love more You must not. If you love anything in this world instead of hating this world's guts this means that you do not love God. He himself said so. Second commandment can ONLY be fulfilled through first commandment, you can start radiating love and forgiveness towards all life only after knowing and loving God. And you will not "stop being racist", you will still be disgusted by obvious degeneracy, though you will be sad rather than angry and will wish for sinful people to repent and be saved from their sin rather than for them to burn in hell. Your heart will softened by Holy Spirit. But, it will have zero to do with forcible self-brainwashing (which will not work anyway).
>>7448 With the caveat that you can hate the World, but not Creation.
>>7406 aye, that's certainly a fault within the culture of today's Jews. Though keep in mind that many of them follow Christ, and uphold him both being born within their group, but that many of them were chosen by Christ to go forth and spread His words as something to be more proud of than anything.
>>7449 You have to choose whether you love Creator or Creation. Isn't it the else-or-else choice?
>>7453 "And it was good." Worship the Creator, but admire the beauty and wonder of His Creation. There is a difference.
>>7454 What do you find good about the world today, or 2500 years ago? The whole Earth, from humblest animal to Man, was an altar for one giant neverending blood sacrifice back then, and today it's an altar for humanity's vainglory, slowly turning everything poisonous with volumes upon volumes of trash, plastic everywhere and teeming masses of the Third World ensuring the machine keep churning. If anything, beauty is an exception and you have to seek it out. Corruption and pain is the norm wherever you look.
>>7472 then you arent looking
>>7476 I see too many condescending faggots such as you.
>>7472 Beauty can even be found in the most smallest and insignificant things.
>>7477 im not being condescending, im telling you the truth. I know exactly what its like to see nothing beautiful in the world, to think that everything was shit, but then i looked.
>>7477 He's not wrong, though. Get outside the city for a bit, or go through a public park. It's that simple.
>>7454 Beauty is fleeting. God has sustain and feed everything continuously so that it doesn't fall apart 10000^10000 times faster than lightning strikes. I can admire beautiful snowfall or rain, but then I immediately forget it, because I know it will soon turn into mud. Just like everything does. What is the point in anything aside from God? I hate Creation, because there is no God in it, more specifically, there is never enough God in it. Anything but God is junk, including ourselves, and does not deserve slightest hint of respect or love. I know I have lost my thread and gone wrong somewhere.
>>7511 >but it's all fleeting That is what makes it more precious, not less. Bless the LORD, O my soul! O LORD my God, thou art very great! Thou art clothed with honor and majesty, who coverest thyself with light as with a garment, who hast stretched out the heavens like a tent, who hast laid the beams of thy chambers on the waters, who makest the clouds thy chariot, who ridest on the wings of the wind, who makest the winds thy messengers, fire and flame thy ministers. Thou didst set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be shaken. Thou didst cover it with the deep as with a garment; the waters stood above the mountains. At thy rebuke they fled; at the sound of thy thunder they took to flight. The mountains rose, the valleys sank down to the place which thou didst appoint for them. Thou didst set a bound which they should not pass, so that they might not again cover the earth. Thou makest springs gush forth in the valleys; they flow between the hills, they give drink to every beast of the field; the wild asses quench their thirst. By them the birds of the air have their habitation; they sing among the branches. From thy lofty abode thou waterest the mountains; the earth is satisfied with the fruit of thy work. Thou dost cause the grass to grow for the cattle, and plants for man to cultivate, that he may bring forth food from the earth, and wine to gladden the heart of man, oil to make his face shine, and bread to strengthen man’s heart. The trees of the LORD are watered abundantly, the cedars of Lebanon which he planted. In them the birds build their nests; the stork has her home in the fir trees. The high mountains are for the wild goats; the rocks are a refuge for the badgers. Thou hast made the moon to mark the seasons; the sun knows its time for setting. Thou makest darkness, and it is night, when all the beasts of the forest creep forth. The young lions roar for their prey, seeking their food from God. When the sun rises, they get them away and lie down in their dens. Man goes forth to his work and to his labor until the evening. O LORD, how manifold are thy works! In wisdom hast thou made them all; the earth is full of thy creatures. Yonder is the sea, great and wide, which teems with things innumerable, living things both small and great. There go the ships, and Leviathan which thou didst form to sport in it. These all look to thee, to give them their food in due season. When thou givest to them, they gather it up; when thou openest thy hand, they are filled with good things. When thou hidest thy face, they are dismayed; when thou takest away their breath, they die and return to their dust. When thou sendest forth thy Spirit, they are created; and thou renewest the face of the ground. May the glory of the LORD endure for ever, may the LORD rejoice in his works, who looks on the earth and it trembles, who touches the mountains and they smoke! I will sing to the LORD as long as I live; I will sing praise to my God while I have being. May my meditation be pleasing to him, for I rejoice in the LORD. Let sinners be consumed from the earth, and let the wicked be no more! Bless the LORD, O my soul! Praise the LORD!
>>7536 Isn't it a bit too late to for this kind of praise? It feels kind of irrelevant in this year and day. Harvests steadily decline and famine is unironically looming over us. We better pray Lord helps us out in the years soon to come as we run atop the barren, dead soil.
Because the last days are coming. Apocalypse is coming.
>>7539 You mean the things which happen because our Lords and Masters are shortsighted and corruptive? What's your point? Besides, soil can be healed with right measures taken.
>>7542 Exactly. My point is you are funny guy. Maybe my mind is just perverted, but I can't help imagining you standing amidst totally burnt down forest while declaiming all this aloud. Because today human civilization has it's pantry thin and many are starving. Earth can heal and regrow itself with perfect ease, but us humans would have to scram for that to happen.
I still keep musing. How it's possible to love anything when you know that it's HIM who holds it all together? I am not even thinking about it actively, it has just become sort of natural perspective. I can't see real living people around me or myself for what we are anymore. It's like this for a prolonged period of time and I find it quite disturbing - talking to someone, interacting with them, looking at my own reflection in the mirror, only to see living corpses possessed by something that doesn't even stand for anything on spiritual level. Same for material objects and all phenomenons. And it's the same in Heaven. Kingdom of living dead, sand castles and waves on water. Only GOD who is eternal and perfect keeps me out of despair. But why. What have I done wrong.
>>7546 >but humanity must go! Anon, stop. You've let the Oligarchs into your head. Anything which tells you that humanity must be destroyed for the good of XYZ is automatically suspect and almost certainly from them. That we have been poor stewards of this world for only the past century or so(!) is no indictment of its Creator and our Father, nor of His handiwork. Repentance is key, not cowardly and prideful self-annihilation.
>>7550 Never said "must", but "would", in purely technical sense. I personally sympathize more with those who think that there would be simply no point in all life on earth if there were no humans to admire it. Also, who am I to judge Creator or His works. We can make judgements in the first place only because we're kindly allowed to do so in the first place, heh he he he. Sorry, I don't mean it, just can't help it, he heh. I too praise ingenuity of LORD at rare times sun shines on my mind. It's just that it's hard to see from here, it's kinda dirty and ugly with all the mess we've made here. I'm kind of sad.
>>7551 NTA, but it seems to me you have a strong case of urbanitis. Humanism and humanistic lies & lamentations always seem to come from just such an environment. >tl;dr Get out of the city and it's dwellers Anon. Get out into the natural world and enjoy seeing God's handiworks all around you. Cheers.
>>7551 Anon, I am going to help you regenerate your sense of wonder. This being the board it is, it's the least I can do.
>>7554 Being in the city is not a major issue, but thanks for your advice. >>7562 I have my sense of wonder and fantasy and consider myself a creative person and never complained to others about boredom. But since I realized that I actually miss our Father, nothing else could (or should) enamor anymore. No depression, no apathy, I feel rather fine, but deep inside I feel a bit sad. I know that in Heaven He doesn't help or treats you specifically anymore, there you are on your own. Like billions and billions of other people. So, basically, you can only meet Him if you are a saint, a very rare kind of saint at that, because of otherwise incompatibility with Him, and you must become one during your lifetime here on earth. And they paid some price for this too. Or am I wrong? It's nothing serious. Just a bit of thoughts.
>you can only meet Him if Except for specific occasions where meeting Jesus is obligatory, of course.
>>7569 >anymore What do you mean? Where was the "cutoff point," to your knowledge?
>>7584 AFAIK only people on earth can easily get in touch with Him in order to ask for something or thank Him in their prayers, because He knows that earthlings really need him. Once you're there, the least you can do is volunteer (?) to help those who are still on earth and ask for His help in this doing. But normally, you're on your own. Well, you get to meet other people and reunite with your friends and family and stuff, but it's very different...
>>7569 >Being in the city is not a major issue, but thanks for your advice. Ehh, I expect it's more of an issue for you personally than you realize. I'd suggest my suggestion again -- get out of the city, and away from it's dwellers Anon. :^) >I know that in Heaven He doesn't help or treats you specifically anymore, there you are on your own. Like billions and billions of other people. So, basically, you can only meet Him if you are a saint, Lol, you 'know' that, do you? This is some seriously cultish beliefs, and have nothing to do with the Bible, nor of Christ Jesus. Read the absolutely astounding prayer by Jesus to the Heavenly Father in John Ch17 if you want to learn something of the truth about Heavenly relationships, between God and us, and us with each other and with God.
You don't move passed racism. You just move passed hate. If you like your people, culture and beliefs, you have to protect them because if you don't they will be destroyed. >hurr durr all civilization die eventually xD They die because cowards like you are so willing to surrender them to outside forces. Israel was once a great and powerful kingdom, they were great and powerful because they loved God. But then they abandoned God and allowed temples to false gods to be built in their kingdom. Kind of sounds like the multiculturalism of today, doesn't it? God cursed them and allowed them to be conquered by the pagans. The Old Testament is a nationalist's handbook.
>>7633 What about the New Testament?
>>7634 Honestly different enough it may as well be from a different god which it probably was. Also, is Joseph a cuckhold for raising his wife's son? I always thought the holy sprite possessed him when he impregnated Marine. Otherwise it was probably not god just another man.
>>7635 >Honestly different enough it may as well be from a different god which it probably was. That's Gnosticism. >Also, is Joseph a cuckhold for raising his wife's son? Well if you solely focus on that then I guess he is. But there's a lot more to him than just that. -He was a faithful and decent man who didn't want to disgrace his spouse after finding out she was pregnant. -He was visited by an angel of the Lord. -He took Mary as his wife, and would have probably been mocked because of her pregnancy. Perhaps even called a cuckhold if that word would existed back then. -He saved his family by fleeing to Egypt. -He raised the Son of God as is own, despite probably knowing that his son was going to die young. Imagine how painful that must have been. -And if you believe in the Perpetual Virginity of Mary, he did all this while resisting the temtpations of the flesh. >I always thought the holy sprite possessed him when he impregnated Marine. Otherwise it was probably not god just another man. That's denial of Jesus' divinity, thereby a denial of Christianity.
>he did all this while resisting the temtpations of the flesh. How do you know he wasn't just impotent?
>>7293 How can you mock pagans for believing that might makes right, when you owe your entire existence to successful application of force? It's not something that can be disproved by force alone.
>>7671 >owe your entire existence What, the application of the nails to Christ's limbs? The violent chimpouts of the Roman authorities to the people who volunteered to help out during plagues? If you do mean that, then sure, you could make that argument. But whining about Crusades isn't going to get you anywhere.
>>7273 NATSOC CHRISTIANITY IS THE WAY KIKE
>>8076 No. You had your chance from 1933, you muffed it. Stop being obsessed with losers who happen to have a nice aesthetic.
>>8077 Natsoc larpers will always choose self destructive defeat over peaceful success.
>>7190 lol
>>8076 Satanism (NatSoc) has nothing to do with the Gospel. >What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? >You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.
>>8076 I bet you put your national socialism above your Christianity.
To quote avenue q, "everyone's a little bit racist". Noticing crime statistics and deciding not to go to crime-ridden areas infested with diverse people, while technically racist, is simply pragmatism in my book. I would allude it to the various pastors and missionaries that have died trying to "save" tribal peoples in remote areas. Live by god but don't mistake yourself as anyone's savior, at least if you do, be willing to die like one. I wouldn't proclaim white pride any more than I'd claim male pride. Race and gender are arbitrary attributes assigned at birth. One should have pride in themself by being a decent person. The fact that I'm white and male is icing on the cake. Don't let other people try to discern your pragmatism as racism. For instance, I would only want my kids to be homeschooled. >"So you don't want them interacting with niggers!?" No, so I don't have them interacting with a bunch of godless heathens and being force fed a diet of LGBTQ propaganda and other assorted CRT bullshit. The schools' racial makeup could indicate how likely they are to be bullied for being white but at that point, when picking between public schools and using race as a determining factor, you're just choosing which cess pit is less disgusting to throw your child into. Forgo the racial calculation for which public school to send them to and home school them or use a church co-op style home school instead. I have a libertarian slant and believe in freedom of association. I prefer to be around white people. I shouldn't be compelled by the government (or anyone else) to mingle with anyone I don't want to interact with. That being said, I've had black friends before and a Mexican girlfriend so I'm secure in my knowledge that I'm not racist, at least in a conventional sense. Being pragmatic and noticing crime statistics doesn't make you immoral despite what talking heads from large media conglomerates might indicate otherwise. Refer to the bible and live peacefully but don't think your aversion to niggers and kikes makes you a bad person. That makes you human. When you start saying things like "kill all blacks" or "kill all Jews" that's when you've probably sipped a little too much Klan Koolaid and need to take a chill pill. Even if those sentiments are rooted in facts and statistics, you don't want to let hate poison your heart. Be vigilant but not spiteful. Be loving but not gullible. etc. etc.
>>8692 POTD.
There is so much inconsistency with hateful beliefs. Which is it today, "kike on a stick", as you say, or "the jews killed christ"?
>>8692 I get what you're saying, but your "libertarian slant" seems to be an attempt on a middle ground between politics and godliness. As pragmatic as you want it to seem, there is still an issue of the heart when these topics come up, and someone who is mildly racist is no better than someone who is full on racist. Sin is sin. If blacks are more prone to crime and evil doing, they should be the ones we are showing love to the most. If jews are against god, it is our duty as Christian's to remind them of the responsibility they have to Christianity as a whole.
>>8692 thats fair. I mean i dont 110% agree because reality is nuanced and often times things apply differently depending on the circumstance but thats pretty fair.
>>8704 >As pragmatic as you want it to seem, there is still an issue of the heart when these topics come up, and someone who is mildly racist is no better than someone who is full on racist. >Racism is a sin Lmao
>>8703 >or "the jews killed christ"? Waitwat, are you telling me they didn't? You mean to say the Bible itself got it wrong? WTF, man.
>>8704 >racism = sinful False equivalence. Hatred is a sin, plainly, as Anon mentions. Being so-called 'racist' is actually simply being a rational human being. There's lots and lots of bad guys out there friend. 'Wise as a serpent, yet harmless as a dove' and all that you know? Just have a look at the statistics, the records, just the facts ma'am. Not just in Burgerstan, but worldwide. Surely that's wisdom, yes? Don't drink the globohomo kike's koolaid regarding this self-destructive bait they want you and I to swallop. Or to put it in the words of a well-known nigger, "Free your mind, your ass will follow."
>>8733 >false equivalence No. Racism is still a sin. Staying out of bad neighborhoods and/or getting a bad vibe from someone is not racist, we all know and agree it's not. It's just a sensitive topic for bleeding heart liberals who WANT it to be racist in order to virtue signal. Racism is negative discrimination of a person or group based on their skin color or ethnicity. "Nigger", "kike", and the like are examples of derogatory and hateful language, which is also a sin. Statistics aren't an excuse to vilify a population.
>>8743 >Racism is negative discrimination of a person or group based on their skin color or ethnicity Show me where the bible says this book chapter and verse.
>>8747 Says this is a sin*
>>8747 Not him but there are plenty of veres that speak against hate https://www.openbible.info/topics/hate >But They're not our brothers They're' not suppose to liberally be your biological brothers, it refers to mankind, your neighbors.
>>8761 Racism turns you into a perverted degenerate, stop blaming jews.
>>8754 Discrimination is not the same thing as hate though. Labeling in-group preference as hate is dishonest.
>>8767 Discrimination is prejudices, which is hateful. >Labeling in-group preference as hate is dishonest. I never said that it is, you can prefer whites to non-whites, just don't hate non-whites. Spiritually it's bad for you to hate your neighbor.
>>8772 >Discrimination is prejudices, which is hateful. So I shouldn't discriminate against evil things? well darn I guess I cant hate satan then ill just be indifferent to him.
>>8775 if you discriminate against satan then you probably hate him.
>>8775 Races are not biologically evil in themselves, the actions that they do are evil, you're not to hate your neighbors, just the sins they do.
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>>8772 You don't even know what the definition of "discriminate" is. Its just another anti-racist buzzword to you. >>8776 You can discriminate between things without any hate though.
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>>8780 >You don't even know what the definition of "discriminate" is. I was guessing but apparently i was right regardless. >Its just another anti-racist buzzword to you. You're just assuming i'm some erroneous strawman sjw or something. Racism isn't Christian, it's not here to affirm your hatred/politics.
>>8743 What perjorative would one use to help single out a subset of shitty people? When I say people, I'm not referring to the entirety of that people but people within that group that are reprehensible. Is the local jew down at the synaguge as bad as the kike that runs the payday loan place? Is the black man who ran a business as bad as the nigger that burnt his store down because of George Floyd? You could also say redneck is derogatory and hateful language towards whites but the MSM has given people a pass to slander that subgroup so they're okay to belittle, right? Right, no racism to see there. I don't want to go into whataboutism, but you see my point. Autistic absolutism is nice on an image board but trying to live by those standards is a joke. It's not a question of "Hitler or Mother Teresa" and if you try to turn it into that discussion, no one is going to take you seriously. >>8704 >and someone who is mildly racist is no better than someone who is full on racist. Well then I guess everyone is fucked then right? That kind of argument doesn't make me want to be less racist (not that I was burning crosses to begin with). You're effectively saying "You may as well strap on a swastika and start goose stepping if you have any reservations about a racial subgroup because you're basically Hitler even though you've never said or done anything remotely racist". That hyperbolic absolutism is whats driving people to opposite ends of the political spectrum today. >it is our duty If you have a personal mission and want to go on a crusade against "racism" in any form, be my guest. When you're done hanging everyone don't forget to hang yourself. Meanwhile, I'll hold onto my reservations and discriminate as I see fit based on the situation, with my very bigoted sentiment such as "I probably shouldn't hang out around black people who I know don't like me based solely on my skin color and would like to kill me simply for exsting". >that's not very Christian of you Jesus said to turn the other cheek, not prostrate yourself on the alter of social justice.
>>8782 The second definition in your pic is accurate. The first is social engineering drivel.
>>8802 Welcome to the Neo-nomenclature
>>8747 The Bible tells you to imitate God (Ephesians 5:1), and to strive to be perfect as the Father is perfect (Matthew 5:48) and we know that God judges not by appearance, but by the heart (1 Samuel 16:7). Therefore, it is not permitted to judge on the basis of skin-color. God's standard is radically different from whatever worldly political agendas that people are trying to shill here. One's body in this world is completely irrelevant to the Gospel. The body of this world is going to be radically transformed when Christ comes.
Pity your enemies but don't hate them.
>>8876 Ok but nonwhites do a fine job of displaying their character defects. It's not immoral to not associate with groups I find repulsive.
>>7634 The New Testament doesn't contradict the overarching philosophy of the Old Testament. People just interpret it as though it does. Jesus said "Not a jot or tiddle of the old law shall pass away until all be fulfilled" and the world hasn't ended yet so it still stands. Simply because you aren't supposed to treat outsiders like trash doesn't mean you have to treat them as equals because when you do they will take advantage of your kindness to destroy you, your family, your heritage, and even your religion and you have a God given duty to protect those things.
>>8754 >hate Discrimination is not "hate", it means to make a choice. For a thought experiment about this, imagine you are a business owner. You are hiring a worker and before you you have two candidates, both are perfectly equal in merit, one is your kinsman and the other is from blackest Africa: in this scenario, is it a sin to choose your countryman over the sojourner? >>8876 >The Bible tells you to imitate God (Ephesians 5:1), and to strive to be perfect as the Father is perfect (Matthew 5:48) and we know that God judges not by appearance, but by the heart (1 Samuel 16:7). Therefore, it is not permitted to judge on the basis of skin-color. There are multiple errors here. Firstly these scriptures are not in any way about this subject, but are being individually torn from their contexts and thrown together to support this point. That latter scripture is about moral judgement, but we are not for instance talking about valuing a white sodomite as more moral than a black Christian. We are also not talking about "skin color" but one's nation (and it requires no argument to demonstrate that if one is not even the son of the same son of Noah as another that they are not kin), and scripture tells us that "if a man does not take care of his and his own he is lower than a heathen and a publican". Now for God's own habit of discrimination He saw fit to deny the gospel to almost the entire world for the majority of history even condemning at least the vast majority of every other nation but His chosen to the fire for their unremitted sins. Is God guilty of sin then for discriminating far more than we are proposing to discriminate, or did the unthinkable happen and He change His mind? >God's standard is radically different from whatever worldly political agendas that people are trying to shill here God's standard is not that the nations He created be exterminated for the pleasure of modernistic atheistic anti-racism
deeply concerned about all of you.
Luke 2:32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. Acts 11:18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life. 1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. Romans 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Colossians 3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
>>9391 If you have to hire someone out of two people and you choose the one who simply has the same skin colour as you, then yes, you are crazy. The fact you write this so openly is to marvelled at.
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>>9395 >oy vey giving white goyim jobs is crazy! Take the schwarzee, you need more schwarzes
>>9395 Please explain what is crazy about that mr. Bugman.
>>9426 >>9446 You have now devolved from /pol/christian to just /pol//pol/. If you want to hire someone based on their skin pigment being the same as yours you can do that, and you can even try to move the goal post desperatly "Well no I mean what if like there's a language barrier or like they might have a whaacky culture we wouldn't want that in tge office." There are no races, all that matters is where you're racing to. I tell you, you say that you don't even want to hire someone who looks different than you. Your post didn't even mention if he was a Christian or anything. Because the truth is that is second to you and you know it. You're not a Christian first. You're an ethnicity first. I would prefer to hire someone who is a Christian over a non-Christian. It doesn't matter their ethnicity or culture if they are a Christian we are the same culture we share the same ideals. You wouldn't consider thay, you may say you would, but you wouldn't. You marry a Christian person doesn't matter what they look like where they come from, we're all children of Noah, once you love Jesus supremely you then move over to his family tree. God will correct you but I warn you when God corrects you and you get a little offended, he sees that and says, Very well I will never correct you again. And I won't either if you don't want to accept this teaching or the verses I posted. There's more, lots of those came from Paul who preached to gentiles. It was a shock gentiles could even have the spirit, Jesus wasn't suppose to be our messiah. When Jesus went to Galiliee he passed through Samaria, he preached to Samarians despite his disciples objections Jews hated the Samaritans they were mixed with the Assyrians it's all subtext, Jesus couldn't care less about the ethnic tension he had a job to do. "aah but Jesus later calls that one woman a dog because she is filthy Samarian mix!" No, also missing the whole point. As I say, we are one in Christ first and you insult God with the racial idol in your mind. You insult Paul who came to preach to us non-jews and spoke about people group unity and really every other apostle. I know you'll continue the battle and make excuses for your obsession but I have no interest in correct you further.
>>9451 >You marry a Christian person doesn't matter what they look like where they come from, we're all children of Noah
>>9453 No, they are children of Ham.
>>9451 >There are no races, all that matters is where you're racing to. Meanwhile, according to the Bible... >"And [God] hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation" (Acts 17:26)
>>9479 it just says that God determined where the different peoples were gonna go. Ham went to Africa, Japhet to Europe, Shem to Israel etc.
Radical bump
>>9480 >different peoples 🤔
>>7176 Racism is not a sin.
I'm come to Christianity from a lifetime of Judeo-Atheism so my sobered eyes it's clear "De-Radicalisation" is another word for Faggotization
>>10890 But hatred and not loving your neighbor is, you can hate evil, but you cannot hate your brother.
>>7232 fuck off you cunt
The bible says not to mix up the nations, babylon and babel were hated by Jahovia because of the mixing of nations. Jah created the seperate tounges of men and the kindreds for perfection and actualisation of His holy design. It is wickedness to mix up and thereby destroy the pedigree Jahovia established.
>>11045 I would rather have a Godly Nigger breed my petite daughter and knock her up with mischling spawn than to allow her to have children with a white pagan sodomite.
>>11045 God hated Babel because it consisted of satan worshippers who were trying to exalt themselves over God. It had nothing to do with race.
I don't think anyone on this board is a "radical", but maybe people on other boards are.
>>11046 Copypasta twitterfag
https://hastebin.skyra.pw/raw/lisexuneka Please read. It's about porn addiction and the internet inducing this sort of sickness, but it also pertains to radicalization. Give it a read. It's long, fair warning.
>>11047 Alright then answer me this. The satanists of today are promoting race mixing. Why would they do that if God didn't mind it? Because the truth is God does mind it. The reality is that race mixing is a punishment God places upon us for not following his law.
>>11211 the satanists also have bowel movements, guess i cant shit anymore. listen dude, if you dont have any Biblical support for it then stop trying to make it a Christian issue. the closest thing the Bible talks about to racial segregation is ethnic segregation (for example Leviticus 25:23 which talks about God owning all the land and alludes to Him dividing it amongst people) whether or not you choose to race mix is up to you, from a genetic standpoint i think its a bad idea because each race's dna is tailored to best fit its environment and thus mixing them together can cause them to cancel each other out and create a child who is genetically inferior to both its parents, but do you really think God cares? If God loves, cherishes even, the ugly, the stupid, and everything in between then do you really think He's gonna be all upset about a person of mixed race?
>>11045 Pentecost is the reversion of Babel. Your evil ideology has led to White incels shooting innocent black shoppers at the supermarket. You are of your father the devil.
>>11221 >the satanists also have bowel movements, guess i cant shit anymore. This is a ridiculous comparison. Bowel movement was directly made by God and is completely natural and thus doesn't Go against God's creation. Racial mixing completely goes against the entire purpose of Eve being created to begin with. I posted it in another thread but Adam and Eve were created separately from other people groups and more importantly Eve was specifically created due to Adam not having a groom. Genesis 2:20 "And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him." >>10236 this is the post where is shows that we and other people groups were made separately. Racial mixing is straight up a punishment from God. Deuteronomy 28:43 "The stranger that is within thee shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low" This is mentioned as one of the curses that God will bring upon Israel if they become disobedient. Obviously this is something that has happened to Europe and other Countries Jews, Africans, Arabs all have been risen above Europeans in worth because we refuse to follow God's Law. And guess who we can blame for that. Even more Evidence that we are disobeying God's word comes from Deuteronomy 28:48 "Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee." This one literally says Race mixing is put into these curses as well. If it was a good thing God wouldn't use it to punish Israel. Deuteronomy 28:32 "Thy sons and thy daughters shall be given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail with longing for them all the day long: and there shall be no might in thine hand.” This obviously fits the Jews like a glove, Like it or not the Jews are trying to destroy us and this is how they are going about it. Obviously I think blaming the Jews entirely is wrong. No we should be blaming ourselves for disobeying God and then we should repent for our sins then follow God's righteous law and Believe on Jesus' death and resurrection and believe that Jesus is the christ. and only then will our nations be saved.
>>11226 Daily reminder that Moses was a 'race-mixer'.
>>11226 >Racial mixing is straight up a punishment from God. >Deuteronomy 28:48 >"Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the LORD shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things: and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee." >This one literally says Race mixing is put into these curses as well. If it was a good thing God wouldn't use it to punish Israel. They werent a different race, they were the same color as the Israelites the only difference was that they were a different ethnicity. Nobody wants their ethnicity to be destroyed because thats your culture, your history, and your heritage therefore God used it as a punishment. >This obviously fits the Jews like a glove, Like it or not the Jews are trying to destroy us and this is how they are going about it. so thats why Jewish women are marrying and fucking black and brown men too? Degeneracy doesnt care about your race or ethnicity but you seem to have convinced yourself that it does. Degeneracy kills indiscriminately just like its father the devil. We have (largely thanks to liberalism and communism) given ourselves over to degeneracy and thus you see the degradation in the west today. Unless you consider Karl Marx and John Locke to be Jews then there isnt much of a Jewish conspiracy there. > Obviously I think blaming the Jews entirely is wrong. No we should be blaming ourselves for disobeying God and then we should repent for our sins then follow God's righteous law and Believe on Jesus' death and resurrection and believe that Jesus is the christ. and only then will our nations be saved. well i agree there.
>>11228 Don't take my post out of context you deliberately didn't post the other two verses that I used. Like it or not these refugees are sojourners and they fit like a glove. The Jews are also sojourners. Even if it were referring to "other whites" which is bogus considering the fact that nothing implies that because the Israelites were allowed to mingle with the Egyptians for a time and said Child was allowed in the congregation after three generations. Nothing you've posted has discredited what I have said. We have disobeyed God's law and now we are feeling the punishment of it. A great way to figure out if God wants you to do something is too look at the end results of what your action does. The results of a race mixing pair is a kid with numerous mental problems, Adultery completely destroys a family, Incest also results in a child with mental problems as well. >>11227 Moses went out with a Cushite women. Who are of the lineage of Ham.
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>non-whites and women don't have souls
>>11240 i "didnt post the other two verses" because they were repeats of what i quoted. >Like it or not these refugees are sojourners and they fit like a glove not sure what this is referencing. >Even if it were referring to "other whites" which is bogus considering the fact that nothing implies that because the Israelites were allowed to mingle with the Egyptians for a time and said Child was allowed in the congregation after three generations. Maybe its just me but i dont see what youre referencing nor the importance of it. >Nothing you've posted has discredited what I have said. Im open to persuasion but nothing youve posted has managed to do that. If you can create a strong Biblically backed argument reflecting your ideas then i will agree with you.
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>>11241 im deleting these posts for now on. youve spammed the board with the same thing atleast a dozen times now. Either engage in actual (Biblically backed) discussion of your ideas or, well, dont and ill just delete your posts.
schizo BTFO
I became fixated on the JQ when I came across it. I spring boarded from researching Q and "the deep state" to pinpointing the enemy as being the elite *jew*. As I dug deeper and learned more, I began throwing the words Kike and Nigger around alot. I held resentment behind those words. Kike for the jews and I used nigger interchangeably for anyone of any color that acted like... a nigger. The morality of this weighed on me and to a lesser degree still does today. I would classify my headspace as express racism. In day to day interactions I treat everyone with utmost respect until they give me a reason to hold a negative judgement against them. (Judge not by the color of their skin but content of their character type deal). In conversation, when I use racial slurs it is directed at the globalists and degenerate individuals. I still didnt feel right about it all so I started praying about it. I would express how I felt, express how I knew it conflicted with Christ's message (Love God more than anything else and love your neighbor as you love your self) and I asked how I can appropriately assess and process my thoughts and actions. It's been a couple months and I havent fully sorted out the "racism" but I know that love would not exist without hate and that our enemies hate us. Therefore, for self preservation, I will resist them with a needed level of hate. Our lives are a walk with Christ, we are not made whole over night.
>>11249 blessed
>>11242 Race mixing is fine but not with blacks. Blacks really are between man and animal. I'm sorry but it's true. Not only that, blacks don't have a humanist bone in their body; everything and I mean EVERYTHING with them is "gibs me dat cuz I'm black raycis." The ones who are Christian are only so because their use Jesus as just another tool in their arsenal of accusing others of being racist, which means they don't actually believe in Christ. Christianity for them is just another prediction of their idolatry. I'm totally fine with every other race besides blacks, including Jews.
>>11276 This post is Satanic. You realize that the only reason you say such things is because of Masonic evolutionary theories such as Darwinism? Such theories were concocted to justify satanic ideologies of progress, racism, Social Darwinism, etc. The Bible teaches that creatures were created according to their kinds - kinds can be quite internally diverse, but each kind is still the same kind. Blacks, Whites, Asians, all humans, all fall within the larger kind of 'human', descended from Adam. There is no such thing as an intermediary between animal and man. This is a Darwinian / Masonic idea that is not found in the Bible.
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>>11319 If racism is a sin why did God order Israel to genocide the Canaanites?
>>11468 Because they were a sinful and idolatrous people did you even read the Bible
>>11473 t.shitskin
>>11473 One of the definitions of racism. the systemic oppression of a racial group to the social, economic, and political advantage of another The Canaanites are a group of people born of Ham who was cursed by God due to Ham seeing the nakedness of his father. Genesis 9:22. This qualifies as racism. Also it's completely stupid for you too say that we all came from the same ancestor when 1) Adam and Eve are both the exact same in terms of racial makeup due to Eve being made of Adam's rib. 2) Noah having 3 Children who we have evidence of all 3 being at least some form of Caucasian. David was described as having a ruddy complexion in 1 Samuel 17:42, The Egyptians have genetic evidence that they are somewhat related to british people. https://www.reuters.com/article/oukoe-uk-britain-tutankhamun-dna-idUKTRE7704OR20110801 3) Genesis 1 and 2 which say Adam was created after the seventh day while the other people groups were made on the 6th day. Don't get me wrong. Africans and Asians are a part of God's creation of course they are everything was made by God but to say they are the same as us Caucasians is really stretching it. I'm also under the belief that they can be saved as well. I know a lot about this and I can make a thread on it because there's quite a lot to unpack.
>>11474 >>11476 t. pilpul
>>11474 t. ad hominem
>>11476 the amount of coping and retardation in this single post is absurd you arent even "reading into" the Bible anymore, youre just twisting it.
>>7176 Racism as it's defined and used is meaningless. It's just a weapon to brow-beat whitey and I'm not even going to pretend other races are subjected to the same hate by the ZOG and the synagogue of satan media. >>7272 God NEVER renamed Israel to Jew. There is absolutely no evidence that we know as modern Jews were ever God's chosen people. This is just a fact, but people get so uppity when this is pointed out. Reinforcing the point: NOWHERE in the Bible do we see "Jews" being called God's chosen and NOWHERE do we see "Israel" being renamed to "Jew". This Zionist subversion of Christianity really needs to end already. I'm sick of so-called Christians being duped into supporting a rogue genocidal terrorist state that hosts what is known as the "gay capital of the world" or the "gay capital of the middle east"
>>11519 Good job there disproving anything I said. I certainly hope this >>11479 wasn't you. You never even explained why my reasoning was "retarded" because everyone with a brain knows that two people of the same stock can't produce an individual of a separate race. I am reading into the bible. You can't read Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 and then tell me with a straight face that Adam was created on the sixth day, When God specifically mentions in Genesis 2 that Adam was made AFTER the seventh day. Furthermore Adam was made without a woman and Eve was created to be his helpmate. While the original peoples were made both male and female. You say I'm twisting scripture but in reality I'm simply reading scripture the way it was intended.
>>11522 >God NEVER renamed Israel to Jew. There is absolutely no evidence that we know as modern Jews were ever God's chosen people. This is just a fact, but people get so uppity when this is pointed out. Reinforcing the point: NOWHERE in the Bible do we see "Jews" being called God's chosen and NOWHERE do we see "Israel" being renamed to "Jew". thats because Israel dissipated. The only thing that was left was Judah and hence the name Jews. the other ten tribes went into captivity and eventually were spread all across the world, mainly into Europe. >>11525 i called you retarded because you completely over looked the most obvious answer to your question which is that Genesis two is a in-depth telling of the sixth day mentioned in Genesis 1. anyone who has read either chapter will know that Genesis one is a brief over view, going from there the obvious conclusion is that Genesis two is a in-depth look. And then theres the logical inconsistencies with your theory. Your theory is that God created Adam separate of the "other races", if so then how come God also created the other races in His own image? im assuming that what youre trying to say is that Adam was different or somehow superior to the other races? So then why didnt God only make Adam in His image? Even if you were correct (which you are not) and Genesis two describes the creation of another race then that would still mean that the other races were to be treated same as Adam since they too were made in Gods image.
>>11526 >i called you retarded because you completely over looked the most obvious answer to your question which is that Genesis two is a in-depth telling of the sixth day mentioned in Genesis 1 Oh really, I'll post both then to show you how wrong you are. Genesis 1:26-31 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." Simple enough to understand. God created humanity on the sixth day but notice the fact that God created male and female at the same time. If what you are saying is true and that Genesis 1 is the exact same telling as Genesis 2 then this means it's a contradiction, Which it isn't because we have evidence to prove otherwise. Genesis 2:1-7 "1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. 4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." Notice it says here plainly that God made Adam after the seventh day. This literally can't be denied. It doesn't say anything about going into detail about the sixth day. If it did then the writer of Genesis would've been better off just writing the details of the sixth day when it was actually relevant. >And then theres the logical inconsistencies with your theory. Your theory is that God created Adam separate of the "other races" it's not a theory it's a fact. Adam was made different from the other people groups because he was made with an intended purpose to look after the Garden of Eden. Nothing about this contradicts God creating the other people in his image either because we all share a similar body structure. differences between races outside of skin color. Like Africans having larger noses or Europeans being taller than average or Asians with their slant eyes. >im assuming that what youre trying to say is that Adam was different or somehow superior to the other races?... Genesis two describes the creation of another race then that would still mean that the other races were to be treated same as Adam since they too were made in Gods image. Just because they were made in the image of God doesn't mean they are the same as Adam. Because if what you said is true then the creation of Eve would've been unnecessary because God could've simply given Adam one of the women found in the other people groups. This is how Cain was able to build a city as well. If it was true that Adam and Eve were the first people made their sons Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel. But Cain was afraid someone would find him and slay him. Now back then If only Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel were alive who was Cain afraid of? Genesis 4:14 "Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me." Now here's where things get interesting. Cain moved to the land of Nod which was east of Eden or pretty much in Asia. Now Cain was given a mark to be Identified. Genesis 4:15-16 "And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. 16And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden." Now this mark we don't know what it was exactly but it was to protect him from being killed by other people.
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>>11529 First off youre kinda misrepresenting my point. Im not arguing over the contents of the verses im arguing over the Chapters and their purpose. Genesis 1 is a overview Genesis 2 is a in-depth look at the sixth day. >Simple enough to understand. God created humanity on the sixth day but notice the fact that God created male and female at the same time. If what you are saying is true and that Genesis 1 is the exact same telling as Genesis 2 then this means it's a contradiction, Which it isn't because we have evidence to prove otherwise. it doesnt say that male and female were created at the same time, it just says that they were created.... on the same day, which Genesis 2 backs up. for reference: >So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. >Notice it says here plainly that God made Adam after the seventh day. This literally can't be denied. It doesn't say anything about going into detail about the sixth day. If it did then the writer of Genesis would've been better off just writing the details of the sixth day when it was actually relevant. Genesis 1 gives an overview of creation, the first 3 verses of Genesis 2 describe the seventh day, nothing was created on the seventh day thus it wasnt included with the other sixth. also the very verses you quoted prove you wrong >These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, 5And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. verse 4-7 literally describes the earth after the fifth day. Also your own theory is contradicting itself, how can there "not be a man to till the ground" if God had already created other races of mankind? Aswell if God is creating Adam after the seventh day doesnt that make Adam inferior in a way, as if He were an afterthought? This is what happens when you try and mix racialist thought into the Bible. >It doesn't say anything about going into detail about the sixth day. If it did then the writer of Genesis would've been better off just writing the details of the sixth day when it was actually relevant. The writer of Genesis (Moses) wanted to go into specific detail about mans creation on the sixth day, thus you have Genesis 2 and the verses within it, if youd read the entire chapter youd get that. >Now back then If only Adam, Eve, Cain and Abel were alive who was Cain afraid of? its believed that Adam and Eve had other children then Cain Able and Seth. The Bible just names the important ones. The proof in this (aswell as everything else im saying) lies in one of the verses at the end of Genesis chapter 3 pic related heres an article on the subject of Cain if youre interested: https://www.gotquestions.org/Cains-wife.html
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>>11530 also since i know youre gonna try and split hairs here is what the Bible says about the meaning of the word "man"
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>>11531 also this verse implies that God created Adam outside the garden then placed him there. (BSB btw)
>>11530 Alright I'll admit I was wrong but not because of anything you wrote but because in the middle of arguing with you I checked genesis 5 to see show that indeed Adam begot sons and Daughters. But it also completely backed up your viewpoint so that's on me.
>>11536 Chapter 5 also doesnt talk about any sons born before Seth. Im not sure why it never talks about any siblings other than Cain and Able before Seth, perhaps it was lost throughout the ages and God didnt feel it important enough to document. it makes sense why He would do that, you kinda just reason it out on your own. Unfortunately the texts of the Bible are just too vague to satisfy some areas of our curiosity. and dont worry about it
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>>11537 The problem I see is that there's no room for Adam and Eve to make different people groups. Because Eve was made of Adams ribs Which would mean she was of the same stock as Adam. Similar situation applies with Noah's kids. Nowhere do the negro nor the Asian appearing make any sense. That's why I assumed Genesis 1 and 2 were different creation events. because it Gave me a logical conclusion as to why each people could come about. The word Adam in hebrew actually comes from the word red. Which is something you'd equate to Europeans due to a ruddy complexion and David later on also had a ruddy complexion. The egyptian pharoah also had DNA very similar to britain which I posted earlier. My idea was that The negro was the first created, Then Came the Adamic people groups then after that came the Asians who were made as a result of Cain's sin and his intermixing. After all the word mongoloid is eerily similar to mongrel.
>>11538 i could understand why you would believe that, at first glance it makes sense. Going solely off the Bible there is no real explanation of the different races but we do know based off observing animals that via natural selection animals (and presumably humans) will naturally "select" the genes best suited for their environment. Thats why you have the differences in skin tone, physical features, and hair. also just so you know (and im not 100% sure since i dont read Hebrew and its a relatively complex language) but Adam supposedly means "ground"
>>11539 The word Adam here https://biblehub.com/hebrew/120.htm Comes from this word which means ruddy. https://biblehub.com/hebrew/119.htm Evolution is a masonic ideology. I wouldn't trust anything that comes out of it especially considering the fact that 10000 years isn't nearly long enough for any mutations to take place. That's the earliest time agriculture was done. That not even getting into how improbable each successive mutation actually is. So I don't think that'd come even close to it because we have at least a somewhat decent timeline on when agriculture first began. Which was the purpose God made Adam for.
>>11541 macro evolution is complete bs micro evolution is real. Animals over time will adapt to their environment via optimized selection within the gene pool. For example a slow rat will take more time to get food and will become easier prey which makes him less likely to breed or provide for his family meanwhile a fast rat will get food faster and avoid danger making him capable of breeding more and more easily providing for his family. """scientists""" take this concept and make it retarded by saying that over the course of 6 gorllion years the fast rat will eventually become a new animal. Obviously one animal cannot change into another, i believe thats called thermodynamics. The idea that energy and matter cannot be destroyed, only change form.
>>11541 also the correlation between his name and ruddy could also be a reference to clay, seeing as that is what he was most likely made of.
>>11544 You see the slight problem with that is that the differences between the negro and the European are vastly different in comparison to a slow rat and a fast rat. We are actually pretty different in terms of physiological make up. Africans have faster twitch muscles for example. What you bring up as micro evolution is closer to the difference between a bantu and a zulu or the difference between a Dutch and a German. The difference between Africans, Europeans and Asians is closer to that of the difference between a lion, a Jaguar and a Tiger. Both part of the same group. But obviously different enough to be given their own classification.
>>11548 >The difference between Africans, Europeans and Asians is closer to that of the difference between a lion, a Jaguar and a Tiger. Both part of the same group. But obviously different enough to be given their own classification. yes and each living in their own drastically different environments. That was what i was trying to say
>>11550 Not entirely accurate. Leopards and lions live in similar environments and they both are panther cats.

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