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Evangelizing the Jews Anonymous 09/07/2022 (Wed) 00:52:08 ID: f02acc No.17577
ITT: post resources and advice for refuting the Jewish religion and demonstrating that the Christian religion is the religion of the Tanakh. Real Messiah youtube channel (Rev. Dr. Michael Brown answers Jewish objections to Jesus): https://youtube.com/c/RealMessiah/videos Particularly good vid from the above, "Psalm 22 does not speak of death by crucifixion" https://youtu.be/5QdbLUKhVcE One For Israel youtube channel (Israeli Christians make arguments and counter-arguments against Judaism, also many testimonies from Jewish converts to Christianity) https://youtube.com/c/ONEFORISRAEL Some personal tips for evangelizing Jews from my own experience: firstly recognize that the Jews come in a few categories. Jewish atheists are not relevant to this thread, they should be dealt with as any other atheist. Some Jews will view Jesus as a wise rabbi, most who oppose you will view Him as a sorcerer (this should not surprise you as we see much the same division between the unbelieving Jews in the gospels). Some Jews will be more or less informed about their religion and ours, but the ones to watch out for are those (typically orthodox but probably at least conservative) who are highly educated on this topic and make it their mission to oppose you, the counter-missionaries. You ought to be well read yourself in theology and the Old Testament before you argue with them. Isaiah 53 is generally not the best place to start, not because it is a weak point for us or that it does not actually point to Jesus but because the counter-missionaries can reply to it in their sleep, you won't get anywhere by getting the opposition to rehearse. Your best bet is to 1. demonstrate the inconsistencies of the Jewish religion with the Old Testament scriptures and 2. hit on lesser known Messianic prophecies which are clearly fulfilled in Jesus. For example of point 1 the fact the Jews have no priests and offer no sacrifice, yet this is the foundation of biblical religion. They will respond to this in two ways, they will attack this biblical truth by attempting to set certain scriptures which denigrate sacrifices and which especially exalt repentance against the scriptures which require sacrifice. Answer by pointing out how men always offered sacrifice to God even before Abraham, as Cain and Abel did. Explain the failure of their interpretation of the other scriptures, for example how the blood of goats and calves was indeed worth little, the only fit offering was that of the Son of God Himself. The other attack they make is to boldly dismiss the necessity of sacrifice out of hand by boldly asserting that sin offerings were only for unintentional sins, this particular response can be cut down with the mere citation of Leviticus 16, but if they persist you should exegete that scripture to keep them from twisting it. An example of point 2 is how scripture repeatedly prophesied that He would convert the gentiles e.g. Micah 4. This is a particularly good argument for us gentiles, because we can cite the example of our ancestors who once worshipped false gods whom we have long since forgotten. There have been many false messiahs and the Jews will agree with this, they never did anything like fulfill this prophecy, so how can Jesus be a false Messiah when through Him I now worship the Lord and not Wodanaz, whom my ancestors have forgotten for a thousand and a half years? The Jews will assume, assert and act like their religion is that of the Old Testament, and Christianity is something else. You must not let them do this. They splintered off from the truth and apostatized into a false religion, they have no right to any of the scriptures which are properly inherited by ourselves, God's covenant people. You must reprove and correct their presumption that they stand in the tradition of Moses even though it will bring insults and mockery at the least. Do not be ashamed or afraid to assert the authority and legitimacy of the New Testament revelation, or its consistency with Old Testament revelation, or the sharp inconsistency of the Talmud with the Old Testament. But you also should not unnecessarily offend them; be willing to write G-d instead of God, call the Old Testament the Tanakh, and absolutely do not use the divine name unless you truly have no alternative. Do not go out of your way to offend them, the gospel is offensive enough.
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i agree with all of this except for that last part >be willing to write G-d instead of God, call the Old Testament the Tanakh, and absolutely do not use the divine name unless you truly have no alternative. Do not go out of your way to offend them, the gospel is offensive enough. that is a concession i am not willing to give. i know that God is God, and I will call Him by His name. i will not display defeat or cowardice by conceding what i know is true in a debate with those that do not believe in Him. they can call him by whatever name they feel and their books by their names, and i will refer to God by His Holy name and His Word as the Old Testament. to do otherwise is to admit defeat.
>>17578 1 Corinthians 9:20
>>17578 Jesus invited to the Jews to join the rest of humanity. The Jews are to be respected by let there be no misunderstanding. There is no judeo christian, only christian. With Jesus we can all work together and nobody can say they are outsiders but brothers in Christ.
>>17577 They hate Jesus and they think they are above God.
I saw le happy merchant and thought this was gonna be bait but it was actually really informative and interesting. The tactics here are actually quite effective even outside of Jew V Christian debate, just adapt them to the circumstance.
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The problem with the world and humanity is not "evil" races but sin. Getting rid of Jews won't erase evil. Why put your faith in some white races that can be defeated easily by race mixing, you should put your faith in God. I'm not saying to go the opposite extreme and promote worldly political correctness or idolize tolerance.
>>17577 > I told you that you would die in your sins, for you will die in your sins unless you believe that I am he. John 8:24 Could Jesus be referencing the coming destruction of the temple in this verse? Since once the temple was destroyed the Jews literally had no place to atone for sins except through Christ.
>>17602 No, see Hebrews 10. All who die without faith in the Lord Jesus die in their sins regardless of who or when they die. The sacrifices failed to take away sins because only the sacrifice of Christ was sufficient to do that, they only brought forgiveness inasmuch as they foreshadowed the coming of the perfect sacrifice of Jesus and thus those who drew near were saved by their faith in the perfect sacrifice which they knew must have been coming.
>>17604 But that no longer applies to the modern Jewish sacrifices doesn't it?
>>17607 There are no modern Jewish sacrifices.
>>17608 >he doesn't know
>>17577 >Isaiah 53 is generally not the best place to start, not because it is a weak point for us or that it does not actually point to Jesus What? Who else does it point to then? I cant imagine any other biblical figure that fits in the servant songs more perfectly
>>17647 Didnt meant to sage
>>17648 You didn't sage though.
>>17604 So they only made sense as the foreshadow of the final sacrifice of Christ and the Pharisees rejection of Christ's ministry and passion, atonement, death, and resurrection means denying the eternal and substantial intent of God underscoring their religion?
By the Council of Basel, you have to be designated by a Bishop before you preach to the Jews. The laity is to the stay away from Jews, Pagans and heretics who would corrupt their faith. Consider that Good King Charles I was beheaded by the Protestants who let the Jews back into England that King Charles had driven out. Cromwell was bought and paid for by his Jewish lords. The results are that Protestant Freemasons will corrupt the faith. yes, I'm looking at their Marian Apparitions.
>>17598 >Getting rid of Jews won't erase evil. Christ said they were the synagogue of Satan and they murdered Christ with their false witness, forcing Pontius Pilate to sacrifice an innocent Jesus in which he could find no fault. Jews who accepted Christ are called "Christians". I'm not saying that we should get rid of Jews, I'm pointing out that Christ, Church Tradition (e.g. Saint John Chrysotom) and the Council of Basel said keep them separate from the faithful. Yes, I know, Jews living among their own is like separating the wolves from the sheep.

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