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Anonymous 07/26/2022 (Tue) 10:49:22 No.14844
Would you forgive Satan?
I listened to a long video about this that i can't find and basically Satan witnessed God in all his entirely (which should have changed him for the better, but didn't) and if even God can't bring out the good in him then hes truly up a creak without a paddle, and maybe the same is true for me unfortunately.
>>14844 i dont know. I feel bad for him (kinda hard not to if you really consider things).
Cant forgive the impenitent because they reject forgiveness, the same applies to all of the damned. Also the angels didnt witness God in His entirety( the so called beatific vision) before the fall because faced with such majesty creatures lose their free will, the capacity to choose to serve/love God or not. So only the angels that chose to serve got to fully see God, the other ones fell. I think this video explained some of that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt_eTbkrR-g
>>14844 >implying someone who's doing his job needs forgiveness
i suppose so but i don't think he would quite care
>>15196 God didn't appoint Satan to do evil or bring sin to the world.
>>15259 But Satan did didn't he, and as shown in Job he is still under God's thumb.
>>15267 God permits evil but he doesn't want it, so he wouldn't appoint someone to cause evil as his job, Satan is rebellion against God and trying to hurt him by getting people to turn from him.
>>15269 well God did create satan knowing that he would fight against him. Whether or not God made him solely for that purpose is up for debate as the same argument that justifies God creating humans could be applied but it is something to consider.
>>15270 God did it because it's kino.
>>15272 lol true.
>>15270 >Whether or not God made him solely for that purpose is up for debate as the same argument that justifies God creating humans could be applied but it is something to consider. What God made was originally good.
>>15274 yes, God made it good but it became bad. God knew it would become bad so now you have to ask yourself why He made it. Did He make it as apart of some plan, or did He make it because He loves it.
>>15275 >God knew it would become bad so now you have to ask yourself why He made it. Either because of freewill or as a test, God always wins even when it seems like he loses, like the sacrifice and his authority over evil, but you probably already know that.
>>15275 >What God made was originally good. God created male and female, heaven and earth, good and evil because he wanted to, stop this Zoroastrian tier retardation.
>>15279 Genesis 1 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, [it] was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” How does Isaiah 45:7 agree with the view that God did not create evil? There are two key facts that need to be considered. (1) The word translated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery.” Notice how the other major English Bible translations render the word: “disaster” (NIV, HCSB), “calamity” (NKJV, NAS, ESV), and “woe” (NRSV). The Hebrew word can refer to moral evil, and often does have this meaning in the Hebrew Scriptures. However, due to the diversity of possible definitions, it is unwise to assume that “I create evil” in Isaiah 45:7 refers to God bringing moral evil into existence. (2) The context of Isaiah 45:7 makes it clear that something other than “bringing moral evil into existence” is in mind. The context of Isaiah 45:7 is God rewarding Israel for obedience and punishing Israel for disobedience. God pours out salvation and blessings on those whom He favors. God brings judgment on those who continue to rebel against Him. “Woe to him who quarrels with his Master” (Isaiah 45:9). That is the person to whom God brings “evil” and “disaster.” So, rather than saying that God created “moral evil,” Isaiah 45:7 is presenting a common theme of Scripture – that God brings disaster on those who continue in hard-hearted rebellion against Him.
>>15280 >However, due to the diversity of possible definitions, it is unwise to assume that “I create evil” in Isaiah 45:7 refers to God bringing moral evil into existence. >due to the diversity of possible definitions Stop trying to shoehorn your retarded christian interpretation, you slimy apologist, G-D created both good and evil and both are subservient to Adonai's will. https://youtu.be/hTKpv_6v3lI
>>15285 if the context of the verse is God talking about punishing israel for disobedience then its not a "interpretation". Aswell this is a Christian board, while people of other faiths are welcome to engage in discussion we also expect a certain amount of respect. Youre not on your turf.
>>15285 You're a kike, lol >>15288 >Youre not on your turf based
>>15285 >Stop doing something >name calling. Not an argument, you troll.
>>15285 Lmao kike
>>15285 Nice try, troll
>>15285 >Not understanding Isaiah 45:7 >No arguments >Spergs like an autist True khazarian, also >>>/judaism/

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