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Does prayer work? Anonymous 09/12/2021 (Sun) 06:59:10 No.1480
I don't suppose there is any proof that prayers works, like prove that God does answer prayer? I guess that's kind of unprovable. If only there was a study done about how many people actually receive answers to their prayers. Here is some scientific proof that prayer promotes good health and longer life. https://www.newsmax.com/health/headline/prayer-health-faith-medicine/2015/03/31/id/635623/
For me it helps me with my worries and make me reflect.
>>1480 Usually when my grandma and I pray about something together it works. I haven't counted the number of times, but I don't know a single time when it hasn't worked. Of course we don't pray for a million dollars or anything, but we always make it through whatever hardship we prayed about. That's enough proof for me.
And this is the confidence that we have toward him, that if we ask anything according to his will he hears us. And if we know that he hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have the requests that we have asked of him. 1 John 5:14-15
>>1480 Prayer accrues heavenly treasure that devalues the perishable rewards of the world in contrast.
yes but only how its described in the bible not the infinite vending machine americans/protestants tend see it as
Never, Ever think of prayer in a mechanistic way to begin with, be careful of what you ask for (and the manner in which you ask it), do not task the Almighty, and yes. Get yourself a prayer rule and stick with it. You will start to notice things with time.
>>1480 Well, It has worked for me in the past but it only works if you actually are a christian. Not one of those lukewarm christians spoken of in laodicea. Even then we're supposed to pray in a specific way. Which include, praying in secret and not openly, Don't pray in vain repetitions, Actually pray for what you need. Should be noted that this doesn't happen overnight but overtime as well. Probably a test of faith. How you should conduct your prayer is stated in Matthew 6 so read that if you're struggling.
>>2157 >but it only works if you actually are a christian. What do you mean by this exactly, because I know that God had responded to some of my prayers before he had led me to Christianity.
>>2223 You were having thoughts of prayer before you fully converted?
>>2281 Yes. I convinced myself of the existence of God in a generic sense through philosophy and weighing the merits of the points put forth by various theist (mostly Christian) and atheist debates. I thought that the theists always came out stronger. First I was more inclined towards Islam, but gradually saw the flaws but still didn't like Christianity, so I spent a lot of time looking into Vaishnava sects of Hinduism, specifically the more monotheistic tendencies like that of ISKCON. I never really saw too many flaws in that, but I had begun to pray and meditate, and I asked God about various figures and whether I should follow them. I asked about Muhammad, the Buddha, Krishna, etc. and I began to ask 'Jesus Christ', and when that happened, I felt a violent pressure change in my ears suddenly. I believe that this was an answer from God, because I have no other way of explaining or replicating what happened. Before that, I had had some minimal interactions from God, but nothing like that, but that at least made me convinced beyond the intellectual level that God was indeed real. It's a strange story, though.
>>2282 Most stories where things suddenly click into place tend to be like that. Mine own was seeing an Icon of St. Herman of Alaska during a church festival, and suddenly realizing that the procession of Saints and miracles had never stopped. I went from a confused lapsed Episcopalian to immediately needing to know more.
>>2286 Wow, that sounds like quite the interesting experience. I imagine you feel very close to St. Herman even today. I have been attending an Orthodox Church myself for about a month, but I'm still in the inquiry stage. I like what I see though
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>>2286 >Episcopalian I don't blame you for either being confused or having lapsed.
>>2223 It's possible I'm wrong. It wouldn't be the first time. I came from the perspective that only a christian would actually believe in God and have enough faith to believe in such a prayer. I mean I highly doubt God is going to answer the prayers of people who hate him.
>>2290 I've met a couple of former edgy and young atheists who "challenged" with a prayer and were answered so they had to take it back and eventually became christians, one much quicker than the other. It's rare as far as i know but they also don't brag about it so it has happened, both aren't the laidback kind of guys tho, they go at your tits to become one of them as their denomination is cult-tier, they are christian rather than catholic but more liberal yet also more strict regarding certain things; for example one didn't like those who drink alcohol but got angry went told Jesus drank and converted water into wine. True, it was a request from His own mother but He also drank sometimes, always in moderation i suppose which is the point, never make the drink dominate you.
>>2290 In my case, I hated Christianity and said many horrible things against Jesus for a long time, but gradually my heart softened towards Christianity, and I was unable to find alternative explanations for many things such as the crucifixion. I had been arguing with a Christian friend as well, and he was gradually setting me aright. God was gradually leading me into the truth even after all of the horrible things that I had spewed against Him online. Even today I am not done repenting of these things, and I probably will never repent enough for them. But I can be thankful that He led me from falsehood into truth. I am probably not a typical case though—though I had many misconceptions, I was always willing to follow the evidence and truth where it led regardless.
>>2292 I heard a story once of some educated young woman offering up a prayer to Zeus. She was answered with what amounted to, "Thank you, but I'm not the man in charge." From then on, she went for Orthodox Christianity. This was in the modern day. >>2289 It was like I had the bones of religion in me, but had no idea what to do with them. Catholic school didn't actually help very much, as the curriculum seemed to downplay modern-day Saints even while using their names, and their catechesis was barely there. >>2288 (dubsman) I still ask for his intercession at that same Icon every Sunday. Though there is another Saint I believe I am closer to for the amount of little things which have happened around invoking his name even in thought: Martyr Tryphon of Lampsacus. Or, as I like to call him, the Finder Saint.
>>2295 >I heard a story once of some educated young woman offering up a prayer to Zeus. She was answered with what amounted to, "Thank you, but I'm not the man in charge." It sounds like Zeus has reformed himself a bit.
>>2299 Kinda funny what losing the entirety of Greece will do to you. Anyone here make use of the Jesus Prayer? That works well for clearing the mind at length.

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