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is using the "Death Drive" a good thing or a -sin-? Anonymous 05/12/2022 (Thu) 13:50:05 No.10955
I just want to die but dont want to KMS really. I do stuff that I know will kill me sooner even tho its not "suicide"(too much caffeine, strenous excercise,which damages mithocondria,etc). I know gnosticism is a heresy but I hate human bodies because theyre ranked by Nature according to hierarchical beauty standards. Many times I almost go to a slum/shanty town area on porpouse to try and fight with some knife-wielding mugger/thief. what do i DO? im reading the Imitatio Crist,trying to apply it,but im so obsessed,hung up on,Beauty...that book just turns me into a despondent nihilist even more. >the Death Drive is when you give so much 0 fuggs about everything,that you can perform anything,any outrageous task,since you dont care anyways
>>10955 Freudian gibberish, unchristian.
There are many cool ways to martyrdom. First thing that comes to mind is that you can volounteer to be a medical test subject and donate all your compensation money.
>>10960 I honestly cant tell if this is a hateful bait or sincere advice.
Also I unironically consider donating organS while fully alive:kidney,for example..altrough i Would start with just donating blood,bone marrow etc.. is there anything else i can donate without dying or becoming a cripple?
>>10964 Well then you should probably research on your own as there are probably not many doctor anons but if you donate your liver and skin they can grow back. If you are a woman you can get shaved bald and donate your hair for a wig or give birth for infertile couples. I don't know if you can give your milk anymore though.
I should probably adress this with my priest but he'll think im insane or just dumb if I say "ok I kinda dislike God im not beatiful"(male) I feel I can use my body for asceticism and fast,keep vigil...but I also crave the void,the non-sentience of silent death...
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>>10977 You can temporarily experience void and non sentience while living through deep meditation. Some will say that meditation is unchristian but it's pretty difficult to never experience some form of meditative state even by accident. Anyway why do you care if you are not beautiful if you're a male?
>>10981 Well, I cant accept or rather, I cant even begin to fathom,how I Myself could possibly be less beatiful a male model. i WANTED to get scouted...I didnt. but others did,that means I Myself am hierarchically inferior,and beauty is the defining factor of 99% stuff in human life.
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>>10983 There are many branches of modeling and they need people with various appearences so you just need persistance but if they didn't want you as a fashion model then you're probably lucky because whenever I see them I pity them.
>>10985 wouldnt "various appearances" be admitting I, Myself,am not beatiful and thus need to rely on minor ways of modelling? I just want beauty,to have my face gazed at and inspire awe,to be used as an example of a beatiful man.
>>11006 >I just want beauty,to have my face gazed at and inspire awe,to be used as an example of a beatiful man. I don't think there was ever a man who accomplished that through looks alone. If that's what you want you should try to impact lives of as many people as possuble preferably through politics.
>>11009 ok. fair enough. im mature enough to admit my initial statements were wrong.
Isn't Death Drive the name of a fictional video game console from no more heroes?
I've read a book that deconstructs and refutes the "Death Drive" and when I find out which one it is I post it here. What you described reminds me of myself one year ago. I was obsessed with the material, with exercise and my physique, chasing sluts, drinking five to six cups coffee a day without eating properly for several weeks - basically I wanted to die but as a Catholic you cannot commit suicide. During this time, my physique was the best I had and attracted many women BUT I was mentally the weakest in my life. You don't really want to die, you want to escape the suffering that is hunting you your entire life. You think a slow suicide is the solution but it is only a farce. Spiritually you already feel dead but your body keeps you alive. Only God can rejuvenate your spirits. First you need to have joy in life before you can grow in your faith again. Do what is necessary to rekindle that joy. God bless.
I keep asking God to kill me, or at least give me a sign that He's there or that He cares. But nothing so far. I desperately need some light/comfort from Him right now, but He never speaks to me or shows me any signs. All I can hope for is that He's there, and that He'll take care of me. But that has made life scary, since I don't know if He'll be there for me in my future, which I know is going to be terrible if He doesn't exist. I wish I could do things to shorten my life, but I don't want to be controlled by my flesh. I don't want to deliberately harm this flesh-body that I'm borrowing from God. I treat it as proper as I can, because any attack on it would be an attack on God. I hope He comes soon. I'm starting to think of ways to end my life again.
>>10955 yes, it is a sin. jesus himself emphasized that sin comes from the heart. it does not matter if you look at a woman lustfully, but don't do anything. to god, it's as if you committed adultery. the reality of sin and understanding what it is, means that you actually HAVE committed adultery, in fact. so if it's in your heart to kill yourself, piece by piece, it doesn't matter that you didn't take a shotgun to your head, or jump off a building. you've done it in your heart already, and it means that your heart needs to change. that you can't do by yourself
We are all sinners by nature. This nature leads to death and you have accepted that. Now accept Christ's crucifixion, which we are free to take part in and God has done it for us. Accept that your old man is dead and let God put you in his resurrected Christ.
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>>11078 >I'm starting to think of ways to end my life again. Why? Make the most of the time alloted to you Anon. Death in this life will come to us all soon enough. Steve Jobs certainly didn't seem to be Christian, far from it in fact. However he certainly was gifted with an extra measure of wisdom and flair. This topic was one of them as he (knowingly) neared his own death: >"Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything - all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important." >"If you live each day as it was your last, someday you'll most certainly be right" >t. Steve Jobs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8u2NhnR8pg
hey Op here. im still alive, I cant accept as real that im not beatiful,so I didnt consider it real,,thus my desire for death is honestly kinda gone
>>13175 Death is an illusion.
>>13194 please elaborate
If you seek death you should study Christ and become a missionary in a nation hostile to Christ.
>>10963 Likely a bit of both. Martyrdom is a very big deal in older Christianity, but the protestant sects have become increasingly averse to it. There is nothing wrong with wanting to die as a Christian. What is wrong is suicide and/or intentional and unconstructive acts to try and bring death faster (such as being a soldier). If you have a strong drive to not live, meaningful martyrdom should be encouraged. You might just discover a new desire to live while studying Christ's teachings in greater detail.
>>11151 Wanting to die and wanting to kill yourself are not the same though.
>>13222 Martyrdom is being a soldier for Christ though.
>>13224 Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
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>>13238 We are soldiers of Christ in a spiritual warfare (2 Corinthians 10:3, 4; 2 Timothy 2:3, 4). "Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes." (Ephesians 6:11) “living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword” (Hebrews 4:12) Your not suppose to take the word "soldier" literally you autistic.
>>13239 "Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey. ” -God
>>10955 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 >16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? >17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. >>13242 It means murder, or unjustified killing. God demands the death penalty for certain criminals, like murderers. Putting a murderer to death, who is convicted according to Biblical requirements for establishing guilt, is entirely justified. Don't be obtuse. God wouldn't have driven out anyone or commanded Biblical Israel (not the same as today's counterfeit) to wipe them out had they been righteous. Same reason God's judgement in Noah's day was justified, even though people like you often claim He's evil for destroying the wicked. Genesis 6:5, 8 >5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. >8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
>>13221 im a catholic so I need to go full on and become a priest for that...Maybe ,another idea,Such As joining a lay group? going to slums to ask crack addicts to go to rehab?
>>13246 I understand that killing is necessary I was just replying to the idiots above who think that christians aren't allowed to kill or even fight no mather what. There's a ton of people like that especially in real life.
Why is god being such a niggerfaggot? All I ask from him is to shine a bit of light into my life, or at least make it less shitty. I'm done talking to him until he starts being kind to me. I'm not going to follow his "laws" either, because he has no concern for me. The first chance I get a proper way to rope, I'm going to take it. Fuck god for being such a faggot.
>>13273 Rest in peace poor little prince.
bump im still alive ive been looksmaxxing,im still fanatically vain(not vainly fanatical)

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