I agree wholeheartedly, but when we say these things we should also include a reinforcement of the idea that love is what motivates us to do and say these things. By bringing the truth to mislead people, we are loving our neighbors. Maybe we could stand to be a bit more gentle when we say such things, but other than that, spot on.

>>10191 A lot probably most of the people who post here are not saved. Well duh, we're all alive. Presumably, we call come here to "work on our own salvation with fear and trembling," Phil 2:12

Cryptic stuff

>>11123 Nice translation you have chosen. Actually it's disgusting. And you should ashamed. https://biblehub.com/philippians/2-12.htm Work out your salvation, as in act it out. Show that it has been done. You cannot achieve salvation by working "on" it.

>>11199 It doesnt say act it out, it says work it out. If your theology doenst fit, change your theology, not the verse.

>>11199 >>11200 Paul said work out, got it.

>>11200 Read the verse and all the translations for yourself if you want. Or don't, I don't know what to tell you. But don't lie to people and change verses. You are not getting to Heaven because of your good deeds. When you are saved you show it and work out your salvation. You do the work which Paul says is prepared before you when you are saved after you are saved. Receiving the Holy Spirit is a one time thing, yes it can be diminished and increased in a sense and you can lose it under conditions but salvation is by grace through faith and not of works. That is Christianity 101 and this verse blatantly says you are to work out and show to the world your salvation as a new creation. Get out of the Catholic Church and do not change the Gospel that is serious.

>>11200 Show me a single translations that says this: >>11123 This is from the devil. Quoting a nonexistent verse. The verse says acts out your salvation, that's what it means. No where does it say "work on". If you put quotes around a verse and then change the inside that's disgusting.

And because so few people are saved here they are NOT working out their salvation because they don't have it, probably because they are being told by sick Gospel corrupters that they need to just be good enough and eat wine and bread and fast. So they can still swear and talk nonsense and watch ecchi anime or whatever. So stop messing around and if you are not sure of your salvation then you need to get sure. Because that's just the beginning. We don't work to get saved we are saved to do to works, very blatantly said in the letter to the Ephesians: "for by grace ye are having been saved, through faith, and this not of you -- of God the gift, not of works, that no one may boast; for of Him we are workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to good works, which God did before prepare, that in them we may walk." And that is a real literal verse and there is many that we are to serve God simply by faith and grace and it has nothing to do with salvation or sins being forgiven. Jesus forgave people's sins because of their faith. Including even the woman who anointed him with oil and perfume and wiped his feet, he says it is her faith that is why her sins are forgiven. The cursing and the race topics which have died down anyways since I made this thread but for anyone who thinks they are in Christ and still acting like the world you have been tricked. And it's time to get more serious and really take that time because it is serious. If your life hasn't made a change, that's trouble. For anyone holding on to something that they know comes between them and Christ or that they know they should let go of, if anything came to mind then let go of it. Walk in faith which leads to good deeds, you could only do good and selfless deeds if you have faith. Do you really believe that Jesus died and rose. Do you really believe that he can forgive all your sins past present and future. You still of course need to confess sins, you should and be forgiven but the Holy Spirit chooses you when you believe you can be forgiven and changed. Some need to really have faith in the power of Jesus and that dedicating everything to him can only be a good thing. No holding on to anything else.

Boast that God saved someone who did not deserve it. Paul's letters are many times about warning churches to stop trying to be "extra saved" because it was and still is a widespread problem. Until you are certain of your being set aside for the Kingdom you are going to struggle with sin. Until you have a true sense of Heaven and of love and appreciation of God. Doubt of God's words and power is going to give you sin. Believe Jesus can once and for all cure you and change you, even if he saves you and you begin to doubt then that's the only thing that will make you a backslider. Doubt is the heart of backsliding. And you can essentially doubt yourself out of God just as you must faith yourself into him. He really wants that because faith is trust and if you trust God is good and perfect then you'll do his will always and everything works. "For not through law is the promise to Abraham, or to his seed, of his being heir of the world, but through the righteousness of faith;" "for if Abraham by works was declared righteous, he hath to boast -- but not before god; for what doth the writing say? `And Abraham did believe God, and it was reckoned to him -- to righteousness;' and to him who is working, the reward is not reckoned of grace, but of debt; and to him who is not working, and is believing upon Him who is declaring righteous the impious, his faith is reckoned -- to righteousness:" Now you say, oh you're really saying we can just lie around then since we don't have to do anything. No. I want to address people who are not even at step one being hired and yet are trying to jump to step three, working. You are hired on Earth not in Heaven and you are then given training by the Holy Spirit and then work, of course you still learn and train your whole life by experience and all that. And losing your job is extremely difficult but it's a different topic.

>>11203 Do you understand how a translation works? English is not a perfect language.

>>11199 >>11202 >>11203 >>11204 >>11206 Bro. It was probably just a typographical error. Relax. Go touch grass. >>11201 Based.

Don't you have more important people IRL to preach to like your family or the homeless shelter, OP?