Should I stop using so many hours/energy/life planning to acquire secular knowledge? And,highly related,seeking to use money and work for money,which I will ,then,invest in more advanced education(to earn even more money,,and connections). Im obsessed with geological history,biology,psyhics and cosmology, religious antrophology etc. >the imitation christi basically told me all of this is BS and useless how do I trully acquire internal austerity and asceticism? I feel I should spend my time reading spiritual books and praying.

Thoughts? I was intrigued after hearing details about this image and was disappointed to see how little material there is on it. I only found one short book available to me and several blog posts and videos on the interwebs. Caths are pointing out all the fine symbolic details, some unexplainable naturally. While atheists say it's creation story is but a legend made up decades later, the panting has a supposed human author, and it's miraculous origin and properties are even doubted by some clergymen involved. I couldn't find any reasonable discussion on it.

>>18398 It's your duty to worship God. Whether you should strive to be more masculine is a non-issue. You're already a male. You're not being overly effeminate are you? If you want to change your behaviours for the better then just go and do it. >is it even an ascetic endeavour to endure 20 minutes of cold-showering every day? It is if you make it so. Subjecting yourself to meaningless pain isn't ascetic. It's ascetic if you use that pain to draw closer to God. If you spent 20 minutes praying under a cold shower and you did that every day without fail (not just when you feel like it), that would be ascetic. Praying can never be considered slothful time-wasting. >>18400 Well you should still study up on the Pentecostal movement and read books by important figures even if their names aren't thrown around much among people. >say god loves you and talk fast and loud so people clap to you >that will be 300 bucks I don't mean to be unnecessarily contentious but if that's what becoming a pastor means in your church... well, if it were me, I'd find another church.

>>18422 You should ,first acqui're nowledge on,proper punctuation,,(

>>18410 Because it's bad ass obviously

>>18441 Based.

>>18424 The painting you see is a masterwork of its era and context but supposedly not the original one according to the clergy, it is a replica (or a better copy) of something which is sealed deep inside the Mexico City Basilica. Tests have been made and some impossible details have been attributed to it like the floating paint over the textile and micro landscape painting inside the eyes but no evidence has been shown unlike the Shroud which has multiple studies with high quality images on it. The origin story is extremely suspicious in nature given the context (lack of faith by locals, cunning clergy who got greedy after the event) and the subsequent use of the movement, the Guadalupana, has transformed into a cult itself where the Virgin is generally seen above Jesus and even God which eventually derived in conflicts and was even used as war banner in incidents which ended famously in genocide in the name of it (Third Yaqui War where the yaqui native americans defended staunchly their lands and the image of Jesus over the federal government symbolized by the Guadalupe belief system and military use of her image). But who knows, it might have been a legit event that was corrupted by the church very soon after.

>>18407 Mortal men can produce impeccable works by the grace of the Holy Spirit.

its this true?

>>18493 >OT passage that is clearly polytheistic No, it's not true

This is less a question and more my thoughts. I have been struggling to read through the Old Testament. I'm up to Numbers and I'm skipping Leviticus until after I finish Numbers. Anyway I open Numbers tonight and I don't even finish the first chapter before I find out the Israelis casually had over 600,000 soldiers in their newly formed army. Each division is composed of some tens of thousands of young men ranging from thirty thousand to over sixty thousand. With an army of 600,000 they would have conquered the entire ancient world back then. And this is whilst they are refugees travelling from Egypt to fucking Israel of all things. They clearly pulled the numbers out of their ass. This is probably one of the most blatant pieces of propaganda I've seen so far and the Old Testament appears to be full of exaggerations and political propaganda on their enemies and themselves. I'm actually questioning if Sodom and Gomorrah was really gay or is it just the case of the jews labelling their political enemies gay as usual. The whole thing with the two kings in Genesis reminded me of the sort of political nonsense you see about Trump or Putin. On one hand I'm tempted to just continue on to the New Testament but I feel I should finish the Old Testament first. Reading the Old Testament is making me more antisemitic than I was previously. I did like the story in Exodus about God getting fed up with Moses being a beta at the river and trying to kill him in a wrestling match so his balls drop. That's how I see it anyway. Wrestle him for a bit so he mans up and stops relying on Aaron to speak for him.

>>18496 >600,000 >he doesn't know what happens to them yet

>>18496 If you read from a purely secular rationalistic mindset, that precludes miracles and the supernatural, you're gonna have a bad time. Also the precise number of people in Numbers 1:46 is also repeated and reinforced earlier in Exodus 12:37 and Exodus 38;26.

>>18496 Every man capable of fighting would have been considered a soldier.

>>18496 You should be interested in "Ancient israel at war" by osprey publishing. They discuss the numbers there as well as the levy system etc. Also keep in mind that Bible wass written centuries after the events took place.

Say you're faced with a choice like in the movie on pic related. Several people are to face prolonged torture and slowly bleed out. They're unbelievers and don't suffer as martyrs. You can prevent it by committing apostasy. What is the correct (catholic) thing to do? To not apostasize would be extremely selfish, but then again, the Church teaches that you can't commit evil to prevent greater evil. Apostasy is a deadly sin and you can't be sure of being able to repent before dying.

>>18565 To love your neighbor as yourself is only the second greatest commandment, the greatest is "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, soul, mind and strength".

>>18579 Confirmed for not having seen the movie.

Heya guys. I'll do my best to condense what happened to me. Basically my parents forced me to get vaccinated against my will, and I'm planning to run away from home. I gathered many things that I'll need to survive out there. > For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Matthew 6:14-15 So forgiving others is a pre-requisite for the Lord to forgive me. But how can I forgive my parents after they forced me to do that? How can I comprehend that my TV-addicted parents were simply victims of propaganda? How can I gain such mentality to forgive them while I'm going to run away from them?

>>18679 Oh, are you the guy from the best thread on this board (that unfortunately slid off)? The one where you posted about how belief in Christ positively affected you?... It's good to see that you're doing relatively well! Anyway, it's hard for me to give a good answer, to the main question (if you have to forgive your parents, and how can you do it) but one thing I can say is that I don't think the vaccine is that bad. I didn't take it, but I don't think you have high chances of dying or getting paralyzed or something just from having taken it. And what's completely unlikely is the vaccine being "the mark of the beast". That's "Obama is the antichrist"-tier honestly. Also, I don't think running away is a good idea. If you really want to quickly get away from them, I think it's better to start flipping burgers and renting a small apartment, or something like that.

>>18679 Anon, regardless of if you are who I think you are, don't run away. I ran away from home as a kid and I was homeless for way too long. It's not fun being a homeless teenager. You'll be broke as hell and money will be the only way you can survive. You'll have to do some incredibly gross and embarrassing shit like going the entire duration of your homelessness giving yourself whore's baths in public bathrooms. I had to sleep on the floor of a pubic bathroom every night because it's all I had for me. Also, there's repercussions for being a runaway. You'll probably fail whatever semester of schooling you're in if you manage to be away long enough because as a runaway of you go to school they'll have police pick you up. Chances are, though, that your parents care about you a lot more than mine did. They'll look for you and what will happen when they find you, which they will? Will they make you start seeing a psychologist or even admit you into a shrink ward? Maybe you need those things if you can't ground yourself in reality enough to see the amount of peril you're putting yourself in over a damn shot. Don't do some shit you're going to regret, especially not for the rest of your life. My running away permanently ruined my relationship with my parents and especially my grandmother which, when she died sooner than expected, made me hurt so much more than I could've ever imagined. Don't do that to yourself.

>>18679 Or maybe you're a propaganda victim.

>>18496 > I'm actually questioning if Sodom and Gomorrah was really gay Bible doesn't say it was "gay", more like all types of sexual sin

>>18689 Jude 7 "Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, having indulged in the same way as these in gross sexual immorality and having gone after strange flesh, are exhibited as an example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire."

Why wouldn't it be true that God wasn't against homosexuality, but pederasty?

>>18706 Homosexuality inevitably leads to pederasty. Obergefell was what, a few years ago, and leftists are already trying to castrate children.

>>18679 Believe that Jesus is superior to demons tricks: >And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.” Mark 16:17-18

>>18706 Pederasty is homosexuality...

>>18733 Castrate your neck >Shields children from the evils of lust >less focus on loving men and women You're a bit inconsistent here. Do you know the difference between lust and love?

>>18733 >>18748

>>18748 If we take away the clearly fake coat of paint of "it's because I love God, duderino", you're nothing more than a literal tranny who wastes his days spreading child sexual abuse/mutilation/torture tranny propaganda on porn-hosting websites. Subhuman commie trash like you is the reason why retarded memes like Christianity being jewish/leftist/commie/anti-racist and larpagans exist. >Google translated Latin nonsense Pure neo-chuuni. You've been watching too much Luke Smith...... Oh, I'm gonna coin that word! Neo-chuuni. It's like chuunibyou, but specifically related to trying to be "based and redpilled".

>>18752 Tu es asinus ad lyram. It's only nonsense because you ran it through an instant translator. It is genuine Latin, though certainly grammatically poor after years of neglecting the skill. It's only fun for ousting arrogant young men like yourself. Mea alma mater parienda me cum armata potentia lingua. Tua apologia ab irato est fibelis. Tu es contra legum Dei et tua delicatio non absolvo tu. You're another one of the cattle who are enticed by faith only for how it can serve you, and your flagrant sin is openly unbecoming. Your passion is better suited where it won't poison you with what you're calling your "redpill."

>>18708 Castration isn't theologically bad, it's honourable. Jesus died a virgin, and eunuchs are respectable. >>18726 Pederasty is homosexual paedophilia; the latter was associated with the former in Biblical times. But we know you can be gay without raping children, so that interpretation (of the Bible not denouncing homosexuality ipso facto) makes sense to me.

>>18757 >You disgusting pervert Tell that to Jesus? >>Matthew 19:12

>>18760 It's literally the word of Jesus Christ...

>>18762 He implied it was honourable. >[T]here are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. >Let anyone accept this who can. Sure, He didn't explicitly say it was _good_, I guess, but He urged people to accept it - to look at it favourably. I don't understand your emotionally charged response. Blasphemy? Well, if you put words in my mouth like you just did, _maybe_. But the implication remains the same even with your words.

>>18757 >Maybe you know that but I don't Cuiusvis hominis est errare, nullius nisi insipientis in errore perseverare.

>>18753 It's nonsense because no fucking one speaks dead meme languages except neo-chuunis who got overexposed to Luke Smith. >>18755 Jesus was a virgin not a tranny. >But we know you can be gay without raping children Anon.... >>18759 >>18763 You're as good as interpreting out-of-context bible verses as larpagans.

>>18793 PS: Why did the janny wipe the images on my two previous posts, 18742 and 18752? Did he find them tangentially unsettling? Did he think their large filesize would slow down page loading for people in third world countries or TOR users? Who knows. I assume it was just some kind of accident/error.

>>18681 The one and only. If you still miss the thread, there's an archive out there. https://archive.ph/1H2xQ Unfortuntately the pics, audio and video involved aren't available for full display. It's not only the vaccine, there's more to it. I don't want to monopolize this thread but basically I never had a choice regarding my parents. I didn't do art because my parents asked me to not do so. I didn't release any book because my parents asked me to not do so. However, I take a course so I can be a slave for corpos because my parents asked me to do so. And there are more things, like discriminating others while they talk against discrimination. A small apartment would be nice. >>18684 My parents are beyond saving, they are happy to live with their own discrepancies in order to virtue signal happily in their religion of science or narcissistic apathy or whatever word they choose as claim of "the good side of history". But beating the dead horse aside, I think I'll take my chances on this one. >[...]the amount of peril you're putting yourself in over a damn shot three. FTFY As I stated above, it's not all because of the vaccine, it's because of choices and their psychotic behavior. I never had a major choice in my life. I can't stand listening to them claiming how good they are while they were manipulating me, expecting me to do things for them like an obedient vassal. The desire of running away finally outweighs my desire to be a writer or videogame designer all together. Articles and people say that it's good to take a week or two before making a life-changing decision like running away. I've got 11 months. 11 months to plan everything. I have a choice. I can choose to break my chains and die standing or I can choose to live like a slave with my morale slowly going down. I can choose to do radio silence and go on my own with absolutely zero communication with other boards or I can ask for help in other sources of communication in particular with Christianity and Bible scriptures to understand life better and be closer to God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit with the help of others. >>18725 I'll study this scripture. Thanks.

>>18793 Moving the goal post. >>18794 If I had to guess it's because they were schizo posts and relied on defamation as a method of backing up arguments that were simply just your disagreement. >>18797 I can't help you then, anon. I wish you the best with what you're doing. Hopefully you can get help soon. I know what it's like to be a spiteful child, and I know that there's a future for you where much of your life won't be founded on that hatred no matter how bad they are. I hope you find it sooner than I did.

>>18755 Eunuchs are disgusting m8.

I believe twice this last day I looked up sexual material; but I did not masturbate, and after too long for both instances I stopped looking at the material. I believe I stumbled, but I do not believe I fell. Is this "stumbling" in itself sin? Should I repent? And if so; how?

>>18867 It is sinful to willingly expose yourself to such things. You did not just "stumble", you fell. For future reference, like Paul says, you have to FLEE from sexual immorality. The best way to keep yourself from jacking off is to just never indulge even slightly in the first place. Pray to God and ask Him to forgive you. sincerely, and change your behavior

>>18869 You fell and sinned too since this website is filled with porn. >But I dont look at it! Like Paul says, you have to FLEE from sexual immorality.

>>18869 I want to add on to the advice of this anon. The Greek word for flee that Paul uses doesn't merely mean run away, but also to seek refuge from. So they are right that you should flee from sexual immorality, but for your better understanding you ought to conceive that in being sin it is like a deadly beast or a wolf. And knowing that sin has the power to carry you off to death, you shouldn't dare go near it, however tempting it may be. As much as God is willing to demonstrate his mercy, the devil seeks opportunity to condemn. That you might draw near the devil's bait and avoid his trap one time, does not mean that you will be able to when he draws you near in a weaker state of mind at another. Make a habit of pursuing virtue, and you will have no reason to doubt your standing before the Lord.

does catholic Modesty compell me/should I, buy a larger size of clothes(shirt,even pants) now that im getting broader and bulkier? I feel Im very thinly clothed since Im getting heavier due to lifting heavy. How do I get clothes that are modest yet not hip-hop baggy ?

>>18906 Potato sack and a rope

>>18793 >You're as good as interpreting out-of-context bible verses as larpagans. Okay, what did Jesus mean then? >>18853 That's not what Jesus thought. Or St. Paul, who said they (and unmarried celibates) were more likely to go to Heaven, because they could focus more on God instead of God and marriage.